yea iv had this problem i haven't watch the rest of the video but in my cases its just a warn out pulley and its not closing with enough force to push the disc mechanism up so it thinks the tray has not gone in so it pushes it back out i used to slam the thing shut when it happened to me before i decided to replace the rubber pulley bit
Nice fix, Vince. The problem of not opening the tray is the classic "sticky tray" problem - rubber band gets dusty and a little loose over the years and can't overcome the force of the magnet holding the tray closed. If the dvd tray is sticky and you want to open it, never ever pull on it to try to open it, you will just end up breaking the front bezel. The solution is to tap the console with your hand just above the dvd drive, the tap will release the tray from the magnet and it will open. Also, consoles that are 12v 12.1a (so called Jasper) like you got there are safe to buy, they are rock solid and most reliable of all Xbox 360 models including slim. They will only have minor issues and will never have cpu/gpu problems.
@@RGInquisitor It can happen of course, it's electronics after all, but dozens of Jasper consoles passed through my hands over the years and not a single problem with them other than dvd drive.
Yeah the XBOX 360 is a pain in the ass to open, even with the proper opening tools. MS didn't want you getting inside the thing. They did good on that part!
i worked in a repair shop 2 and fixed and hacked possibly 1000's of these bloody things, if the drive sticks you may get luck by giving it a little tap over the top of the drive to get it to eject, at this point pull the power and take the belt out with tweezers and replace, another trick is to put the belt into a cup of boiling water for a few minutes dry it off and put it back, works like a charm and saves a tear down for that kind of fault, still got three rgh slims i like to use for Lan partys and still do the odd kamikaze hack when i get called upon 8-)
I had to just replace the whole drive on my son's X-Box. I couldn't get it to work. You are amazing at everything you do. Thanks so much for the videos mate.
i would love to see you and elliot from the retro future do a joint fix it video on that cheap switch he bought from ebay because of how confident you have become over the last few months
Video bought back nightmares of red light of death. Also had a 360 with the same issue the problem is when you remove the tray the alignment of the gears mess up also if you over tighten the screws tray lip gets stuck on top plastic you can remove the tray face and test eject without dismanteling just console face needs removing. But yeh test before putting all back together even when putting case together test then retest will save time. Love your vids vince
When the tray doesn't pop, a timed press of the eject button and a fist to the top can work a treat. I cleaned mine out a couple of years back. It works fine now unless the tray is empty so i have to make sure i always have a disc in it. Now you've shown me that boil the belt trick i'm in two minds whether to open it up again. Cheers Vince.
Thanks, if you have some tweezers and a steady hand then you can get to the belt with the tray open. I should have done this instead of taking it apart the last time :-)
i used to fix these things as a hobby was so cool watching you mess with one all these years later, even if i did spend half my time shouting at the screen :D love the mass variety of things you tinker with on your channel keeps it so fresh and entertaining. keep up the great work
First thing that came to my mind when i saw the problem, disc tray door wont stay shut is that the tray is misaligned with the laser assembly or ribbon cable preventing it from closing enough to hit the switch via it detects the tray is inside. I have done slot-loading disk drive mechanism reset on my PS3 Fat (BD-410 drive) because it was not ejecting the disk properly and sometimes extruded the shim in front of drive to prevent putting another disk inside, and that caused the disk not to come out. It was very easy to, just popped the roller platform off and unscrewed the motor, then just slid the assembly back to normal position.. It's nice to see that you got it fixed, and you made nice video of it. You are professional and you got proper music too, fits perfectly!
I used to love fixing disc drives on the 360 back in the day and ive picked it back up again after watching your videos making me believe in myself and ive just recently got a ps4 for £30 and its working perfectly fine now haha keep up the good work vince!! love your videos!
Unbelievable! Put the belt on boiling water really works for me, thanks to your video and that trick, finally my disc drive works as should it be. Is so sweet whatch how things keep working after of a failure and then get their repair. Nice work!!!
was anyone else cringing at the start of this taking apart witht the tray open, love these videos but cried almost thinking of my own 360 like that but yeah love the videos but be careful Vince!
You got yourself a jasper. The best motherboard rev of all 360s including slim. Should last a long time. It would be cool to see some hardware modding on it just for education purposes.
Modding a 360 would definitely not be hard for someone like Vince. I managed to mod my 360 Slim Trinity when my Jasper died, and that was long before I had any soldering experience!
Before these comments I had never heard of a 'Jasper'. So it looks like I got lucky with this one then:-) I be honest I know nothing about modding a 360 but I would be interested to see what can be done on it. I will Google it later and watch some UA-cam videos to learn a bit :-)
Never pull by force the tray. At 27:12 you can see a small hole. That is to insert a needle to allow the sliding mechanism to proceed with the ejecting the tray.
Vince, there isn't much to worry about with this 360 console now that you have fixed the drive issues and cleaned it up. This is the final revision of the "phat" Xbox 360, better known as the "Jasper" revision. This model of the console isn't one to have bad issues with the CPU and GPU like older models did, so reliability is very similar to the Slim model if not exactly the same. I'd say you lucked up quite nicely since you got a console for cheap that is reliable and only had some minor issues with the disc drive. Excellent video!
Vince, you really shouldn't fully reassemble something until you've verified it's working. Always just assemble the minimum possible for testing. You'll save yourself a lot of time and work.
the older consoles i think are better than the new ones because they made quality parts and the assembly was modular so you did not have to spend a lot of money to mend them nice fix vince and you only really need to change the thermal paste if it had the yellow light of death
Yellow light of death is a hardware failure, a PS3 hardware failure. Replacing thermals does not fix hardware failures. It took Microsoft and Sony years to make 360's and PS3's that lasted reliably. Quality is not something I associate with any console, the are all made on the cheap. If you really want quality, build a decent gaming PC.
@@relaxxxrrr the PS4 is definitely a quality console I had one that lasted 5 years, ran basically 24/7 and been dropped about 3 or 4 times and it still ran like new.
At 16:08 where your right thumb is on it is a guide rail (at 17:32 right) that moves this black, sliding part. If the pin (at 17:38 right in front of the right limit switch) of the sliding part is not in the guide rail, it will not work either. So the drawer is tried to move out while the laser unit is not completely pulled down.
Just remember Vince, if you swap the disc drives the disc drive motherboards are married to the motherboard so you have to put the old disc drive board in the new drive
@@davidotahal4365 this was definitely a thing with the Xbox 360s the optical drive was married to the motherboard. So when you replaced the optical drive you had to swap the old drives board into the new optical drive or else it wouldn't read games or movies period
Once again love the videos your expertise has grown in leaps and bounds your unsoldering of minute chips is nothing short of amazing I really love the way all vacuum cleaners to the English are always HOOVERS keep up the good work Vince great stuff old and new you deserve every penny made from your videos they are so expertly edited and recorded your equipment is of the highest quality As to hoovering big dirt filled parts I'd rather do that than breathe in dirty contaminated dust
I recommend investing in a DataVac newer electronics have a good resistance to ESD but there's always that off chance something may happen. The DataVac can be used to clean anything and it's better than buying cans of compressed air. If you have an air compressor that will work as well.
Great video! I've found often this happens when dust gets inbetween the pads that get pushed together when the drive is closed (at least on Lite-On and BenQ). So the drive doesn't know if the tray is closed or open :)
Vince, That belt is a common problem. When it gets weak; it has trouble separating the two parts of the spindle (one is on the top cover) which are magnetic. That's why it opened fine with the cover off, and not with the cover on the drive. This is the same reason it opened with the disc in the drive, and not without it. The disc separates the magnet, and takes some of the resistance way. You can change the belt without taking apart the console. Use a thin sheet of rigid plastic (I use the cover off of a cheap pocket notebook), and slide it in the top of the drive carefully until it reaches the spindle while ejecting the drive. This will help separate the spindle, and it should open. It works on most tray load drives. Once the door is open; unplug the console, and you can access the belt with long reach tweezers through the front of the drive. I do this all the time, and it only takes about 5 minutes to change the belt.
Watching this one reminded me that I have three or four Xbox 360s that needed attention and turns out two of them have this exact same fault! Also, just watched Vince's push-up challenge vid he did with his son a few years ago so, challenge accepted! Lol Thanks for the inspiration @mymatevince ! Keep it up mate!
Great video. The only suggestion don't use a feather duster it can create static, a small hair paint brush is better at the same time while using your Hoover. Keep up the good work.
Yeaaaah. Finally Vince is back. :) Saturday afternoon: A Mortadell Sandwich, a Coffee and a Vince Video. Weekend - here i come :D "Yes - I can...excellent": Vince Obama
Vacuuming does cause static buildup which can damage sensitive electronics, however in practice this is fairly rare as modern electronics are pretty resilient to ESD. The ones telling you it's no problem have probably been vacuuming their desktop PC for years without any issues, that does not mean it's a good idea however. It's always better to use something that won't cause static buildup like canned air. I myself used to clean my desktop PC by vacuuming the inside and never had any issues, but have switched over to canned air as it's just safer. In short both sides are partly correct. You shouldn't vacuum sensitive electronics, but it *probably* won't do any damage if you do.
You should consider buying a "Metro DataVac" from Amazon. Its an electric air blower that works like having perpetual canned air/duster, and works a lot better than a vacuum. You'd definitely want to use it outdoors as it blows very hard but its perfect for cleaning computers and electronics out. Its like 85 pounds but well worth it.
Hey vince. It looks like you have a jasper v2 model 360. The main difference between jasper v1 and v2 is the ram chips and the heatsink. Every thing else including the power brick is the same. FYI the jasper v2 is also known as a “kronos” model. These jaspers/kronos’ are the most reliable of the platform, more reliable than the slim and E models. Mine is running strong to this day! Live your vids so much. If you want more info you can go on Wikipedia’s “ Xbox 360 models” page. Luke Edit: Greetings from Australia.
Excellent! =D I laughed when it wouldn't eject after you re-assembled it lol The same belt problem happens with the old original XBOX systems too. Vaccuum - technically the ESD police will claim that its high risk, but its pretty low risk imo. I've vaccuumed thousands of electronic devices out over the years and never had a problem. Feather duster I would avoid like the plague though lol - those things generate huge amounts of static!
Lol, I knew if the vacuum didn't get the ESD police then the duster definitely would!!!!! I think it was trying to 'troll' me Chris, working perfectly when apart and then not when back together. BTW I got an Atari Lynx (original version) the other day Chris, it is supposed to be dead so I may need your expertise on that one, I was looking on your channel but I could only find the Lynx 2. I am hoping they have a similar insides :-)
Hehe =D Regards the Lynx, they are pretty much the same! The board is layed out differently, but the components are the same. It has likely got a failed mosfet transistor. You can trick them into powering up with that fault by wiring the ground (from the battery bay) up to the ground on the headphone jack socket. I think that works because the mosfet is effectively switching the ground line, and by joining those up with a wire you bypass that soft power on. Once it does power up, check 5v somewhere to make sure it IS 5v and not 9V (or that can kill other things). If the zener diode on there fails the 5v line can go up to 9v.
@@GadgetUK164 Thanks for the tips Chris. I will re watch your Lynx vid right now to see what's what. I would prefer if possible not to muck this one up as I was something I really wanted back in school - 16 bit in a handheld, when my master system was an 8 bit!!!! Unfortunately it was a little bit pricey for a birthday pressie back then :-)
I dont like Fifa and I dont like consoles. But watching your friendly neighborhood Vince fix an old console with Fifa in it, makes for an enjoyable video anyway.
I know it's a old video but I really enjoyed watching you mess about with the 360 would love to see a couple more of the 360 fat n slim getting the Vince touch. Also I use to put the rubber bands in cold water after it's been in boiling and that seemed to keep it fixed
Hi Vince, i used to fix these alot a few years ago, the drive problems are usualy the drive belt ie elastic band, or the laser takes a dive, if you need to replace the drive they are married to the motherboard, ie if you replaced the drive you need to flash the original firmware on to that new dvd drive or it will not work, and check my dreamcast video out if you didnt get around to fixing yours, keep up the great work, love your fix it videos :)
Hallelujah! 👍 It also sounds like there's a little slippage on the laser rail as well. Used to get this on PS2's a lot, as they were plastic rails that worn down over time.
I tend to do amateur repares on Xbox 360. The green light flashing means that the disk tray is opening/closing. If it's stuck try replacing the band. I had recently bought one that would refuse to open, simply putting a new band in it made it work good as new. I hope this helps. Even just a little. Also, the heat syncs are attached to the motherboard itself as well as the metal shield, they are somewhat difficult to do. but with practice and the right tools you can get it done easily. Edit: I only watched the first few minutes. But my advice might help if you get another?
So, in reference to the hoovering and so on. It's completely fine to hoover as long as you have the correct attachment, if you're using the brush. If they're plastic and plastic only, plastic doesn't carry static. So it's completely fine to use
i hoovered so many things, mainboards, cellphones, consoles, virtually everything that has circuits in it and i NEVER fried one of them doing so. it cant be that big of a risk, i mean professionals do it too, pro tip: use a soft brush to agitate the dust right in front of the nozzle, this gets the parts very easy very clean!
You can heat those seals up with a blow dryer or heat gun and get them off in perfect condition 90% of the time. I've fixed 100s of these things over the years. Unfortunately they can't all be fixed, especially if they were damaged from someone trying to fix it before myself or another decent repair guy like Vince gete's our hands on them. With that said I'm sitting on about 25 consoles that are simply good for spare parts only now.
I had this disc drive problem before, I don't know if you resolved it but the way I dealt with it was pretty basic. For some reason the top magnet that holds the disc to the spindle is too strong and sticks to the spindle when there is no game in the drive. That is what is causing the blockage and not letting the tray eject, so I just left a disc in the tray at all times and I never had the problem again. I know it is a pain but I could not find a way around this one. Hope this helps.
Well Done Vince a nice easy fix. Was going to say I'll buy you a work bench for Christmas but I seen by one of the previous comments that you apparently like to work on the floor, maybe a set of Kneepads would be more appropriate lol. Mick Northern Ireland 👍🍻
Well it was a little rocky, but you nailed the infamous flashing light of Death! i have a few old 360 consoles that may be given another chance of life now! Thank You!
with the tray closed, you can turn the pulley under the front of the door, you can insert a small scewdriver and rotate the pulley manually and it will slowly open the tray.
i had this same issue with my xbox 360 a while ago and i had to use a dining knife in the top to make it come open mine was down to the metal case of the disk drive and plastics fowling the opening mechanism and in the end had to bend the metal just a touch and adjust the case slightly cant remember what i did it was over a year ago and then it opened and closed normally after that but dont quote me i had another that i did same to and it didnt solve it so not sure could be various reasons but mainly pc game now, But awesome vid keep it up Vince :D
I suggest that you change the thermal paste anyway. To do it, you need to undo the black screws, turn the motherboard and remove the x-clamps with the x-clamps tool that you can order online. DO NOT TRY TO REMOVE THEM WITH THE SCREWDRIVER, OR YOU WILL END DAMAGING THE BOARD IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE. Ciao Vincenzo
I have a Jasper based 360. Still works great to this day. It too has the problem with the drive not wanting to open, but it only does it when the drive is empty. I now am planning to boil my rubber band...
As far as using a vacuum , it is not recommended to vacuum near ic boards. I use a air brush and blow dust into air and have nozzle ready to catch it. You can get dedicated anti static vacuums with a earth strip running along inside of hose to nozzle, but I would use those with caution, as some chips are very sensitive.
Fixed my Sega mega drive other day,clean console and light dust cartridge slot.Repair the antenna it was cut,didn't need the switch for TV changed.Press and hold the reset button for five seconds . F1 gp and PGA golf worked and controllers. Well pleased.
I'll say it again - a can of electrical contact cleaner would be better for cleaning that microswitch than IPA. No need to use expensive de-oxit. A cheap can from an electrical supply store will do.
Yeah the ProElec branded stuff from CPC does a great job for £2 and has the advantage that you can just douse it everywhere and not carw. Just as good as DeOxit for 99 percent of jobs.
the problem was the black slider that moves the disc reader up and down. he just got lucky on the last rebuild that the slider pin went into the right slot and was moving the slider like it is supposed to when the tray moves in and out. you can clearly see the track on the bottom of the tray at 17:31 and you can see the pin at 37:58 at top middle-ish of the screen.
Also if you do plan on changing the thermal paste you can make yourself a xclamp tool with an old xclamp. You cut off one of the ends where the standoffs of heatsinks go open with a dremel and it works great for removing them without damaging them. If you need more info on how to make the tool let me know.
I found it funny when you did the last eject test I thought the Xbox made the sound effect of saying hallelujah like finally he’s closing up the system for good lol great job mate god bless you and your family
The only issue with this unit is the closing/opening mechanism in the discdrive... When you openned it up for cleaning, it is clearly visible that the laser and the motor were not closing up. So the disk drive doesn't send the signal back to the consol that it's now close/open... hence you get the flashing green light. If you are unable to fix the mechanism, the only option you have is to hook the discdrive to a pc, read the dvdkey out, and flash it to a new dvd drive to replace it.
Vince my 360 Elites disk drive gets stuck as well, a solution I've discovered it just whacking the top of the 360, it shakes something into position and allows for the disk drive to open.
Hey there Vince I'm enjoying the videos a lot... I do have a question for you where is a good place to order new board bits from.... got a wii u that needs a new zif connector for the front I/o board but can't figure out where to get one other then a dead board? (Sorry I am not commenting about the 360 as I don't have one and wanted to comment in the most recent video I could find.)
That worked at first but I eventually I had to smack the top of the console to get it to open sometimes, I suspect the plastic of the disc tray had warped.
The arm that moves between the two switches needs to be to the far right when you reinstall the disk tray.if it opens when cover is off the belt is stretched and doesn't have enough friction to overcome the strength of the magnet.
Vince! If you ever find that a disk tray is broken. They're basically beyond salvage. The disk tray is married to the motherboard, but you can by-pass this by having an IDENTICAL optical drive. Most of the time it'll have the same pattern where the actual CD sits. There are 3 versions I believe and then the board on the inside will be different sometimes even though the tray can be the same, so checking serial numbers and dates/years of manufacture is a must and all you need to do is solder off the original board and put it on the donation optical drive. Quite straight forward, I had to do it with mine due to a dying laser that was chewing up my disks
Hi Vince love the videos! I want to ask a question. In one of your videos, you had this thing where you plugged this HDMI to I think a PS4 and it told you the resolution of the video output. What is that called? I want one for myself for my own repairs lol.
This is a late revision of the 360. It's the Jasper revision, the last one before the Slim model came out. This model is as reliable as the Slim model is.
9600GTMAN look at the power connector on the 360 motherboard. The plastic piece at the top you’ll notice is split down the middle where older revisions have 1 piece straight across. The power brick has nothing to do with what motherboard it is.
9600GTMAN That’s because the Jasper has a more power efficient GPU inside going from a 90nm die to a 65nm one. I’m sure there’s other little things that were changed to combat the heat and power efficiency issues of the Falcon and especially Xenon and Zephyr units.
Vince : "I bet it's the eject button"
Me *looking at 40 mins left of the 45 min video* nah mate I don't think so it's that simple.
:D Same here. But that would be like watching a Sherlock Holmes Movie where he catches the murderer after 5 Minutes
Same with 60% of his videos
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yea iv had this problem i haven't watch the rest of the video but in my cases its just a warn out pulley and its not closing with enough force to push the disc mechanism up so it thinks the tray has not gone in so it pushes it back out i used to slam the thing shut when it happened to me before i decided to replace the rubber pulley bit
Nice fix, Vince. The problem of not opening the tray is the classic "sticky tray" problem - rubber band gets dusty and a little loose over the years and can't overcome the force of the magnet holding the tray closed.
If the dvd tray is sticky and you want to open it, never ever pull on it to try to open it, you will just end up breaking the front bezel. The solution is to tap the console with your hand just above the dvd drive, the tap will release the tray from the magnet and it will open.
Also, consoles that are 12v 12.1a (so called Jasper) like you got there are safe to buy, they are rock solid and most reliable of all Xbox 360 models including slim. They will only have minor issues and will never have cpu/gpu problems.
I wouldn't say never. My Jasper got RROD two years ago and I took very good care of the bugger.
@@RGInquisitor It can happen of course, it's electronics after all, but dozens of Jasper consoles passed through my hands over the years and not a single problem with them other than dvd drive.
Thanks N N, I will use the tap technique in the future. I never knew about the Jasper so I am lucky I got this one :-)
@@Mymatevince Hey, thanks for the great content man, your tenacity is inspiring, not just for fixing things but life in general, cheers!
@@usagiakimbo2506 Its a shame though, but I had the console for almost 8 years. It was bound to fail eventually.
Oh Vince you poor man
Yeah the XBOX 360 is a pain in the ass to open, even with the proper opening tools. MS didn't want you getting inside the thing. They did good on that part!
i worked in a repair shop 2 and fixed and hacked possibly 1000's of these bloody things, if the drive sticks you may get luck by giving it a little tap over the top of the drive to get it to eject, at this point pull the power and take the belt out with tweezers and replace, another trick is to put the belt into a cup of boiling water for a few minutes dry it off and put it back, works like a charm and saves a tear down for that kind of fault, still got three rgh slims i like to use for Lan partys and still do the odd kamikaze hack when i get called upon 8-)
As soon as you popped that tray out, I knew we were in for a show.
😂😂😂 done that before
@@Winni385 yup specialy since you cant replace these fuckers
What a lovely rug! Boiling belts can have a super mixed result. You had the belt gods bless you today!
The Retro Future you here ?
Haha, I will let the wife know :-) Yeah the belt came up good, must be my culinary skills!!!!!
I had to just replace the whole drive on my son's X-Box. I couldn't get it to work. You are amazing at everything you do. Thanks so much for the videos mate.
i would love to see you and elliot from the retro future do a joint fix it video on that cheap switch he bought from ebay because of how confident you have become over the last few months
Nice fix. I needed a break from programming a database, your videos are a good excuse to have a break.
Excellent :-)
Video bought back nightmares of red light of death. Also had a 360 with the same issue the problem is when you remove the tray the alignment of the gears mess up also if you over tighten the screws tray lip gets stuck on top plastic you can remove the tray face and test eject without dismanteling just console face needs removing. But yeh test before putting all back together even when putting case together test then retest will save time. Love your vids vince
Stop putting everything back together and instead TEST beforehand.
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@@TheBaregel That's why you are a descendant of one. Ironic isn't it.
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pakaxc so don’t fight dude
only REAL repair men have the confidence to fully put together a device without testing it
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The haleluya when it finally worked cracked me up real good :P
Petraplexity HALLELUJAH!!!!!
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When the tray doesn't pop, a timed press of the eject button and a fist to the top can work a treat. I cleaned mine out a couple of years back. It works fine now unless the tray is empty so i have to make sure i always have a disc in it. Now you've shown me that boil the belt trick i'm in two minds whether to open it up again. Cheers Vince.
Thanks, if you have some tweezers and a steady hand then you can get to the belt with the tray open. I should have done this instead of taking it apart the last time :-)
@@Mymatevince I believe all shall give that a go. Thanks
i used to fix these things as a hobby was so cool watching you mess with one all these years later, even if i did spend half my time shouting at the screen :D love the mass variety of things you tinker with on your channel keeps it so fresh and entertaining. keep up the great work
First thing that came to my mind when i saw the problem, disc tray door wont stay shut is that the tray is misaligned with the laser assembly or ribbon cable preventing it from closing enough to hit the switch via it detects the tray is inside. I have done slot-loading disk drive mechanism reset on my PS3 Fat (BD-410 drive) because it was not ejecting the disk properly and sometimes extruded the shim in front of drive to prevent putting another disk inside, and that caused the disk not to come out. It was very easy to, just popped the roller platform off and unscrewed the motor, then just slid the assembly back to normal position..
It's nice to see that you got it fixed, and you made nice video of it. You are professional and you got proper music too, fits perfectly!
I used to love fixing disc drives on the 360 back in the day and ive picked it back up again after watching your videos making me believe in myself and ive just recently got a ps4 for £30 and its working perfectly fine now haha keep up the good work vince!! love your videos!
Congrats mate, £30...that was a bargain find :-)
Unbelievable! Put the belt on boiling water really works for me, thanks to your video and that trick, finally my disc drive works as should it be. Is so sweet whatch how things keep working after of a failure and then get their repair. Nice work!!!
Great video Vince. Your patience is legendary 😎😎👍
was anyone else cringing at the start of this taking apart witht the tray open, love these videos but cried almost thinking of my own 360 like that but yeah love the videos but be careful Vince!
You got yourself a jasper. The best motherboard rev of all 360s including slim. Should last a long time. It would be cool to see some hardware modding on it just for education purposes.
Modding a 360 would definitely not be hard for someone like Vince. I managed to mod my 360 Slim Trinity when my Jasper died, and that was long before I had any soldering experience!
@TheGamingChannel 1 Yeah not hard at all. All you really need is soldering skills, chip(~5$), wire, and a programmer (~20$).
Before these comments I had never heard of a 'Jasper'. So it looks like I got lucky with this one then:-) I be honest I know nothing about modding a 360 but I would be interested to see what can be done on it. I will Google it later and watch some UA-cam videos to learn a bit :-)
@@Mymatevince The Modification you want is called RGH 1.2 you will need a Coolrunner Rev C and a JR Programmer.
@@randysmith7094 I personally used a Matrix V2 and that worked wonders. It's far cheaper too, as far as I've seen.
Jaspers aren’t the only ones that survived long, I believe I had a falcon or something? It was 4 years old before I got rid of it, no issues at all.
Never pull by force the tray. At 27:12 you can see a small hole. That is to insert a needle to allow the sliding mechanism to proceed with the ejecting the tray.
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Really enjoy your console fixing video Mate. Please do more.
Vince, there isn't much to worry about with this 360 console now that you have fixed the drive issues and cleaned it up. This is the final revision of the "phat" Xbox 360, better known as the "Jasper" revision. This model of the console isn't one to have bad issues with the CPU and GPU like older models did, so reliability is very similar to the Slim model if not exactly the same. I'd say you lucked up quite nicely since you got a console for cheap that is reliable and only had some minor issues with the disc drive. Excellent video!
You make me less afraid to take apart my consoles to clean and fix them.
Curious to know why you always work on the floor, must be quite uncomfortable, surely be better on some kind of bench/table.
I asked the exact same question.... Vince replied he finds it easy!
I like working on the floor....
I like working lying down. Just whatever works for the person.
His back must be killing him at the end of a repair.
@Shambles1980TRealOne Same here
Vince, you really shouldn't fully reassemble something until you've verified it's working. Always just assemble the minimum possible for testing. You'll save yourself a lot of time and work.
Thanks :-)
Very entertaining video. Having repaired several thousand of these units from 2006-2017, I enjoyed the diagnostic procedure from a d.i.y. person.
the older consoles i think are better than the new ones because they made quality parts and the assembly was modular so you did not have to spend a lot of money to mend them nice fix vince and you only really need to change the thermal paste if it had the yellow light of death
Yellow light of death is a hardware failure, a PS3 hardware failure. Replacing thermals does not fix hardware failures. It took Microsoft and Sony years to make 360's and PS3's that lasted reliably. Quality is not something I associate with any console, the are all made on the cheap. If you really want quality, build a decent gaming PC.
@@relaxxxrrr the PS4 is definitely a quality console I had one that lasted 5 years, ran basically 24/7 and been dropped about 3 or 4 times and it still ran like new.
At 16:08 where your right thumb is on it is a guide rail (at 17:32 right) that moves this black, sliding part. If the pin (at 17:38 right in front of the right limit switch) of the sliding part is not in the guide rail, it will not work either. So the drawer is tried to move out while the laser unit is not completely pulled down.
Just remember Vince, if you swap the disc drives the disc drive motherboards are married to the motherboard so you have to put the old disc drive board in the new drive
This work only on Xbox One, no? I never heard that you must do this on 360.
@@davidotahal4365 this was definitely a thing with the Xbox 360s the optical drive was married to the motherboard. So when you replaced the optical drive you had to swap the old drives board into the new optical drive or else it wouldn't read games or movies period
@@billy-waynejeffcoat4828 ok, but XOne have the same issue
@@davidotahal4365 I'm not surprised, seems to be a Xbox thing, like how the original Xbox hard drives were married to the motherboard
David Otáhal its on both consoles so modders cant just replace the disk drive
Once again love the videos your expertise has grown in leaps and bounds your unsoldering of minute chips is nothing short of amazing I really love the way all vacuum cleaners to the English are always HOOVERS keep up the good work Vince great stuff old and new you deserve every penny made from your videos they are so expertly edited and recorded your equipment is of the highest quality As to hoovering big dirt filled parts I'd rather do that than breathe in dirty contaminated dust
That was totally awesome to watch James. I hope you make more videos like these. I am actually learning a lot from you.
I recommend investing in a DataVac newer electronics have a good resistance to ESD but there's always that off chance something may happen. The DataVac can be used to clean anything and it's better than buying cans of compressed air. If you have an air compressor that will work as well.
40:30 I love seeing Xbox 360 (and PS3) consoles working again
Great video! I've found often this happens when dust gets inbetween the pads that get pushed together when the drive is closed (at least on Lite-On and BenQ). So the drive doesn't know if the tray is closed or open :)
I will Always have a Like for you brother! Really enjoy the Projects you get into!
Was just watching a bunch of 360 videos the other day, what a perfect timing for this one to join my bunch!
You have the patience of a saint,well done m8
Vince, That belt is a common problem. When it gets weak; it has trouble separating the two parts of the spindle (one is on the top cover) which are magnetic. That's why it opened fine with the cover off, and not with the cover on the drive. This is the same reason it opened with the disc in the drive, and not without it. The disc separates the magnet, and takes some of the resistance way. You can change the belt without taking apart the console. Use a thin sheet of rigid plastic (I use the cover off of a cheap pocket notebook), and slide it in the top of the drive carefully until it reaches the spindle while ejecting the drive. This will help separate the spindle, and it should open. It works on most tray load drives. Once the door is open; unplug the console, and you can access the belt with long reach tweezers through the front of the drive. I do this all the time, and it only takes about 5 minutes to change the belt.
You sir are a wizard, congrats on a job very well done!
Watching this one reminded me that I have three or four Xbox 360s that needed attention and turns out two of them have this exact same fault! Also, just watched Vince's push-up challenge vid he did with his son a few years ago so, challenge accepted! Lol Thanks for the inspiration @mymatevince ! Keep it up mate!
Great video. The only suggestion don't use a feather duster it can create static, a small hair paint brush is better at the same time while using your Hoover. Keep up the good work.
Yeaaaah. Finally Vince is back. :) Saturday afternoon: A Mortadell Sandwich, a Coffee and a Vince Video. Weekend - here i come :D
"Yes - I can...excellent": Vince Obama
Vacuuming does cause static buildup which can damage sensitive electronics, however in practice this is fairly rare as modern electronics are pretty resilient to ESD. The ones telling you it's no problem have probably been vacuuming their desktop PC for years without any issues, that does not mean it's a good idea however. It's always better to use something that won't cause static buildup like canned air. I myself used to clean my desktop PC by vacuuming the inside and never had any issues, but have switched over to canned air as it's just safer.
In short both sides are partly correct. You shouldn't vacuum sensitive electronics, but it *probably* won't do any damage if you do.
@Kris Nicholson That could certainly be a problem too, but it's not one that's frequently mentioned, if ever.
The fact that you did this with no prior knowledge of disassembling a xbox 360 is amazing
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You should consider buying a "Metro DataVac" from Amazon. Its an electric air blower that works like having perpetual canned air/duster, and works a lot better than a vacuum. You'd definitely want to use it outdoors as it blows very hard but its perfect for cleaning computers and electronics out. Its like 85 pounds but well worth it.
The Compucleaner on Amazon is just as good and only £50
Just what the doctor ordered to cure my boredom!
He posted this when I was getting ready for work this morning. I was like well I know what im doing after work today lol.
Good Job man!! I enjoyed watching every second 🥇
Hey vince. It looks like you have a jasper v2 model 360. The main difference between jasper v1 and v2 is the ram chips and the heatsink. Every thing else including the power brick is the same. FYI the jasper v2 is also known as a “kronos” model. These jaspers/kronos’ are the most reliable of the platform, more reliable than the slim and E models. Mine is running strong to this day! Live your vids so much. If you want more info you can go on Wikipedia’s “ Xbox 360 models” page.
Luke
Edit: Greetings from Australia.
Excellent! =D I laughed when it wouldn't eject after you re-assembled it lol The same belt problem happens with the old original XBOX systems too. Vaccuum - technically the ESD police will claim that its high risk, but its pretty low risk imo. I've vaccuumed thousands of electronic devices out over the years and never had a problem. Feather duster I would avoid like the plague though lol - those things generate huge amounts of static!
Lol, I knew if the vacuum didn't get the ESD police then the duster definitely would!!!!! I think it was trying to 'troll' me Chris, working perfectly when apart and then not when back together. BTW I got an Atari Lynx (original version) the other day Chris, it is supposed to be dead so I may need your expertise on that one, I was looking on your channel but I could only find the Lynx 2. I am hoping they have a similar insides :-)
Hehe =D Regards the Lynx, they are pretty much the same! The board is layed out differently, but the components are the same. It has likely got a failed mosfet transistor. You can trick them into powering up with that fault by wiring the ground (from the battery bay) up to the ground on the headphone jack socket. I think that works because the mosfet is effectively switching the ground line, and by joining those up with a wire you bypass that soft power on. Once it does power up, check 5v somewhere to make sure it IS 5v and not 9V (or that can kill other things). If the zener diode on there fails the 5v line can go up to 9v.
@@GadgetUK164 Thanks for the tips Chris. I will re watch your Lynx vid right now to see what's what. I would prefer if possible not to muck this one up as I was something I really wanted back in school - 16 bit in a handheld, when my master system was an 8 bit!!!! Unfortunately it was a little bit pricey for a birthday pressie back then :-)
I dont like Fifa and I dont like consoles. But watching your friendly neighborhood Vince fix an old console with Fifa in it, makes for an enjoyable video anyway.
Thanks Nandi, always lovely to get one of your views :-)
Great Vid, I love getting broken things and trying to fix them, well mostly just love taking them apart haha
I know it's a old video but I really enjoyed watching you mess about with the 360 would love to see a couple more of the 360 fat n slim getting the Vince touch. Also I use to put the rubber bands in cold water after it's been in boiling and that seemed to keep it fixed
Hi Vince, i used to fix these alot a few years ago, the drive problems are usualy the drive belt ie elastic band, or the laser takes a dive, if you need to replace the drive they are married to the motherboard, ie if you replaced the drive you need to flash the original firmware on to that new dvd drive or it will not work, and check my dreamcast video out if you didnt get around to fixing yours, keep up the great work, love your fix it videos :)
Hallelujah! 👍 It also sounds like there's a little slippage on the laser rail as well. Used to get this on PS2's a lot, as they were plastic rails that worn down over time.
I tend to do amateur repares on Xbox 360. The green light flashing means that the disk tray is opening/closing. If it's stuck try replacing the band. I had recently bought one that would refuse to open, simply putting a new band in it made it work good as new. I hope this helps. Even just a little. Also, the heat syncs are attached to the motherboard itself as well as the metal shield, they are somewhat difficult to do. but with practice and the right tools you can get it done easily.
Edit: I only watched the first few minutes. But my advice might help if you get another?
So, in reference to the hoovering and so on. It's completely fine to hoover as long as you have the correct attachment, if you're using the brush. If they're plastic and plastic only, plastic doesn't carry static. So it's completely fine to use
Great stuff Vince well done 👍👍
i hoovered so many things, mainboards, cellphones, consoles, virtually everything that has circuits in it and i NEVER fried one of them doing so. it cant be that big of a risk, i mean professionals do it too, pro tip: use a soft brush to agitate the dust right in front of the nozzle, this gets the parts very easy very clean!
You can heat those seals up with a blow dryer or heat gun and get them off in perfect condition 90% of the time. I've fixed 100s of these things over the years. Unfortunately they can't all be fixed, especially if they were damaged from someone trying to fix it before myself or another decent repair guy like Vince gete's our hands on them. With that said I'm sitting on about 25 consoles that are simply good for spare parts only now.
I had this disc drive problem before, I don't know if you resolved it but the way I dealt with it was pretty basic. For some reason the top magnet that holds the disc to the spindle is too strong and sticks to the spindle when there is no game in the drive. That is what is causing the blockage and not letting the tray eject, so I just left a disc in the tray at all times and I never had the problem again. I know it is a pain but I could not find a way around this one. Hope this helps.
Would really recommend some air duster cans for dusting. Perfect for fans and small nooks and crannys.
@The retro gamer with old consoles im confused but i support it
He needs and electric duster!
Well Done Vince a nice easy fix. Was going to say I'll buy you a work bench for Christmas but I seen by one of the previous comments that you apparently like to work on the floor, maybe a set of Kneepads would be more appropriate lol. Mick Northern Ireland 👍🍻
Well it was a little rocky, but you nailed the infamous flashing light of Death! i have a few old 360 consoles that may be given another chance of life now! Thank You!
Great fix here also your perseverance is astounding :)
Complete entertainment Vince.Thanx.
with the tray closed, you can turn the pulley under the front of the door, you can insert a small scewdriver and rotate the pulley manually and it will slowly open the tray.
i had this same issue with my xbox 360 a while ago and i had to use a dining knife in the top to make it come open mine was down to the metal case of the disk drive and plastics fowling the opening mechanism and in the end had to bend the metal just a touch and adjust the case slightly cant remember what i did it was over a year ago and then it opened and closed normally after that but dont quote me i had another that i did same to and it didnt solve it so not sure could be various reasons but mainly pc game now, But awesome vid keep it up Vince :D
Nice job Vince !!!
Love your videos and your music of choice for your videos
I suggest that you change the thermal paste anyway. To do it, you need to undo the black screws, turn the motherboard and remove the x-clamps with the x-clamps tool that you can order online. DO NOT TRY TO REMOVE THEM WITH THE SCREWDRIVER, OR YOU WILL END DAMAGING THE BOARD IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE. Ciao Vincenzo
I have a Jasper based 360. Still works great to this day. It too has the problem with the drive not wanting to open, but it only does it when the drive is empty. I now am planning to boil my rubber band...
Hey Vince, it's the magnet in the drive, best leave a disc in there and the issue don't happen.
Well done Vince. Nice fix.
As far as using a vacuum , it is not recommended to vacuum near ic boards. I use a air brush and blow dust into air and have nozzle ready to catch it.
You can get dedicated anti static vacuums with a earth strip running along inside of hose to nozzle, but I would use those with caution, as some chips are very sensitive.
Helpful video 👍
at 16:00 it didnt look like the tray closing was lifting the sled at all, likely some of the issue. Wonder if the sled also has a switch
What happened at 6:20? I was looking forward to some classical music...
I noticed that after it had processed. Not sure how I managed to skip that part!!!
Fixed my Sega mega drive other day,clean console and light dust cartridge slot.Repair the antenna it was cut,didn't need the switch for TV changed.Press and hold the reset button for five seconds . F1 gp and PGA golf worked and controllers. Well pleased.
I'll say it again - a can of electrical contact cleaner would be better for cleaning that microswitch than IPA. No need to use expensive de-oxit. A cheap can from an electrical supply store will do.
A friend of mine recommended mineral oil or something like that. What do you think ?
Yeah the ProElec branded stuff from CPC does a great job for £2 and has the advantage that you can just douse it everywhere and not carw. Just as good as DeOxit for 99 percent of jobs.
@@jasejj I guess I'll try some of that then. Thanks for the info
the problem was the black slider that moves the disc reader up and down. he just got lucky on the last rebuild that the slider pin went into the right slot and was moving the slider like it is supposed to when the tray moves in and out. you can clearly see the track on the bottom of the tray at 17:31 and you can see the pin at 37:58 at top middle-ish of the screen.
What determination! I’d already be out in my drive with a 5lb sledge. Fixed 👍🏼
Also if you do plan on changing the thermal paste you can make yourself a xclamp tool with an old xclamp. You cut off one of the ends where the standoffs of heatsinks go open with a dremel and it works great for removing them without damaging them. If you need more info on how to make the tool let me know.
i would like to know please. Thank you.
I found it funny when you did the last eject test I thought the Xbox made the sound effect of saying hallelujah like finally he’s closing up the system for good lol great job mate god bless you and your family
The only issue with this unit is the closing/opening mechanism in the discdrive... When you openned it up for cleaning, it is clearly visible that the laser and the motor were not closing up. So the disk drive doesn't send the signal back to the consol that it's now close/open... hence you get the flashing green light.
If you are unable to fix the mechanism, the only option you have is to hook the discdrive to a pc, read the dvdkey out, and flash it to a new dvd drive to replace it.
The other thing is, you need to change the heatsink on the GPU, its one of the older versions and will cause RROD.
Great stuff right there, subbed.
Vince my 360 Elites disk drive gets stuck as well, a solution I've discovered it just whacking the top of the 360, it shakes something into position and allows for the disk drive to open.
Haha everyone makes that mistake with the eject button first time
Good worK,matey.I remember the original first Xboxs had this issue and cleaning the belt usually solves it
Another great video what do with all the things you try to fix do u sell them or do they collect dust
Hey there Vince I'm enjoying the videos a lot... I do have a question for you where is a good place to order new board bits from.... got a wii u that needs a new zif connector for the front I/o board but can't figure out where to get one other then a dead board? (Sorry I am not commenting about the 360 as I don't have one and wanted to comment in the most recent video I could find.)
Cool video Vince
Those older Xbox’s don’t like to open on the side only standing up
That would explain why my old Xbox 360 fat disk tray would open and close when it was on its side but stayed open standing up
That worked at first but I eventually I had to smack the top of the console to get it to open sometimes, I suspect the plastic of the disc tray had warped.
The arm that moves between the two switches needs to be to the far right when you reinstall the disk tray.if it opens when cover is off the belt is stretched and doesn't have enough friction to overcome the strength of the magnet.
29:10 My xbox disc tray does this sometimes also, all you had to do was tap the top of the console with your palm.
Vince! If you ever find that a disk tray is broken. They're basically beyond salvage. The disk tray is married to the motherboard, but you can by-pass this by having an IDENTICAL optical drive. Most of the time it'll have the same pattern where the actual CD sits. There are 3 versions I believe and then the board on the inside will be different sometimes even though the tray can be the same, so checking serial numbers and dates/years of manufacture is a must and all you need to do is solder off the original board and put it on the donation optical drive. Quite straight forward, I had to do it with mine due to a dying laser that was chewing up my disks
34:09 you need to clean the little rubber ring ; 38:14 when motor spins it's faster than when you round it manually and it sleeves, clean it w ipa.
Hi Vince love the videos! I want to ask a question. In one of your videos, you had this thing where you plugged this HDMI to I think a PS4 and it told you the resolution of the video output. What is that called? I want one for myself for my own repairs lol.
I love 360 original
i´m surprised it´s not a RROD considering it is so dirty and disgustingly dusty
This is a late revision of the 360. It's the Jasper revision, the last one before the Slim model came out. This model is as reliable as the Slim model is.
oh cool thanks for the info
9600GTMAN look at the power connector on the 360 motherboard. The plastic piece at the top you’ll notice is split down the middle where older revisions have 1 piece straight across. The power brick has nothing to do with what motherboard it is.
9600GTMAN That’s because the Jasper has a more power efficient GPU inside going from a 90nm die to a 65nm one. I’m sure there’s other little things that were changed to combat the heat and power efficiency issues of the Falcon and especially Xenon and Zephyr units.