I grinded 26,000 guild credits to unlock Ragnar less then a week ago. This news was a bitter pill to swallow, but I’ll hold judgement until I see the changes. If this was to be a colossal waste of time because he’s no longer effective I’d be unhappy.
It's not an over reaction to quit the game if nerfing a character that is the lynchpin of your roster, and represents many months of effort and multiple toons worth of gear, and all they offer is one reset stone. It might be an over reaction without knowing what the nerf actually is. However if we kick up a stink now it sends a message.
The simplest best solution is to not allow Ragnar and Aun'Shi on the same team in Tournament Arena. Second best solution is remove TA. This like buying a new car because yours has a flat tire.
The worst part is this sets a precedent that it's not safe to invest in characters for guild raids. Sure you can switch to building Rho, but then they may suddenly delete him due to fucking TA of all things! Even worse with TA is only an occasional event, that's already disliked, simply because an absolute minority of players, at the top, have access to two SPECIFIC legendaries that tale about a year to unlock, even worse if Aun leaves the guild shop! Let's hurt the entire playerbase in order to stop less than 1% of players!
I agree with this 100%, it does set a precedent. If I was to switch from mutihit to mech it would take me over a year to get all the shards to get them all to legendary, and farm all the Imperial gear, orbs and badges. Mech is even harder as 3 out of 5 of the team all need the exact same resources/orbs/badges so the legendary nodes are even more of a bottleneck. In that time SP could decide Rho is doing too much damage and nerf the comp wasting over a years worth of progress. Breaking Ragnar will just move the TA imbalance to the next strongest character.
This is an over reaction on there side too. I farm for the last 6 month to put together a good multihit team. I finally have a d2 ragnar, literally this is the first season when I can start to play with my team, and now he got a nerf. The reset stone doesn't give back my time. I feel shit because my work and effort is nothing after that. If ragnar will bad in raids, and the multihit team will much worst after the nerf i quit. They dont respect my work and effort, i dont respect there game.
Simple fix would be if Ragnar's active requires you to select a target for it, like Gulgortz, and then he charges that target. That way it's easier to counter in TA, by staying out of range of Ragnar alone, and it means it can't be double tapped on the same turn, but it can be used again later in the battle. In TA it's less useful, in guild raids it's still fine, in regular arena it's also less broken but still useful.
I think an even simpler fix would be A) only allow Legendary characters in Legendary TA, that would stop endgame players farming noob starter teams for easy wins or B) put power level brackets into TA so players are matched more evenly like in Arena. Nerfing Ragnar will just move the problem onto the next meta character/team. The problem is anybody with an endgame roster can play in the low leagues of TA.
As a fairly new player (4-5 months) the first and only legendary Ive gotten was ragnar, it made me happy and I have ofc invested alot in him since he is supposed to be strong too. This could be a serious blow to my account since he is one of my few strong characters atm.
People don’t take part in TA because they don’t. It has nothing to do with Ragnar. People constantly complained about TA long before Rag or AunShi were available characters. TA just isn’t very good, it’s fun for 10-15 matches but then it’s just meh… Remember Thad/Calandis/Celistine/Calgar teams lol? People cried about that too. Nerfing Ragnar will accomplish nothing, it’s funny that it’s even a discussion.
TA is clunky and boring. Not worth the time waiting for some other wanker to move. Might be kind of fun if you could actually talk shit, unfiltered and uncensored.
The easy solution to my mind would be to make wolf howl work the same as Boss Gulgortz active. So when activated, Ragnar runs off and smacks something. That way Aunshi couldn’t be used to double up.
Rho and the Admech team are far more unbalanced to the point where they are best in class for most of the Legendary bosses. If you take out the only alternative (i.e the Ragnar multhit/crit teams), I don't see how that's good for the overall game. I don't really care about TA..like at all. I don't mind it if they change Aun'shi active to the point where the reset applies from the following turn (and hence two War howls can't be stacked). But SP's answer to the AdMech taking over the Meta is to..introduce a new boss?!
using howl only once per turn, not 'once per battle' (as you proposed in the video) is a fine change, I think. so aunshi still works, but not the double-stacking howl. which is "the problem" in pvp. and that would probably be enough. Wolves player here :)
I don't play TA, I simply don't enjoy it, not because of Ragnar but because I don't enjoy the format. It would be very annoying if Snowprint significantly nurf Ragnar for me and I loose the utility of him because of a game more I don't care about
I refuse to play TA. I despise PvP modes in most games. Regular arena is fun because you’re fighting an AI, but no changes they could make would make me play TA.
Reset Stone ? I played Tacticus from the Start till the first big Nerfs they made. Started again last Year and only made the last Ragnar LRE collected 150 Shards. So i bought 350 Shards from Rogue Trader Shop und Guildshop.
Interesting video. My understanding is some of the other characters are getting nerfs and buffs as well, so a more gentle nerf to a range of characters feels more likely ? Maybe just my wishful thinking :) Also, I know Ragnar is ruining PVP, but that is one game mode. There are two characters much further in front of importance than Ragnar who need a nerf - Rho is killing GR and the fact Eldryon adds damage to every single hit meaning when a brand new character comes out first thing we do is check whether he can work with Eldryon. That's got to be ruining the design of the game in more important ways. Would love to see a lot more viable GR teams across the board.
About damn time. Ragnar was making the game unbearable, I have him and hate what him and Aun'shi has done to the game... he's made a game titled TACTICUS anything but tactical. 75 characters and yet he's in every top team, that's not by coincidence.
It's a great idea to mix it up to keep things interesting but maybe with new characters that are just as powerful to counteract these meta characters 👍🏼...🤔 maybe even a Machine of War that can be useful enough to help with this problem.
Devs showing that they are unrustworhy to hndle how we spend our time and money in the game. Slippery slope that leads to players withholding the spend that keeps the game afloat.
They just want new and upcoming units marketable for more money. They nerf old units to make new ones OP. Pretty much an artificial power creep made by devs... Untrustworthy is saying the least in describing how the game is being handled by the developers
The reset stone would be useless, it will give back all the space wolf resources but none of the other SW are worth investing in. Ulf is about the second best currently but you would be mad to level him to the level you would have Ragnar at.
TA isn't the most played .. u can run some battles but not focus to much.. Ragnar and his howl should affect only space wolves and the issue end... as aunshi only for Taus... Personally I have Ragnar in diamond 1.. cause I like him from the lore a lot... In factions wars I play with space wolves I think we are going in the cry baby drama and it's annoying..
I grinded 26,000 guild credits to unlock Ragnar less then a week ago. This news was a bitter pill to swallow, but I’ll hold judgement until I see the changes. If this was to be a colossal waste of time because he’s no longer effective I’d be unhappy.
I wouldn’t worry, I’m pretty confident that he will still make the guild raid multi hit team post nerf
As someone who just spent months using all my guild credits getting him if he is not still amazing in raids i will be pissed
It's not an over reaction to quit the game if nerfing a character that is the lynchpin of your roster, and represents many months of effort and multiple toons worth of gear, and all they offer is one reset stone. It might be an over reaction without knowing what the nerf actually is. However if we kick up a stink now it sends a message.
The simplest best solution is to not allow Ragnar and Aun'Shi on the same team in Tournament Arena. Second best solution is remove TA. This like buying a new car because yours has a flat tire.
Remove normal TA. Only faction TA stays. No more Ragnar/Aunshi in TA.
Just dont allow double howl. An even easier fix. Solved the whole problem.
Hate to see him nerfed. Spent a lot of time and resources getting him to diamond and he's a huge part of my raid team
The worst part is this sets a precedent that it's not safe to invest in characters for guild raids. Sure you can switch to building Rho, but then they may suddenly delete him due to fucking TA of all things!
Even worse with TA is only an occasional event, that's already disliked, simply because an absolute minority of players, at the top, have access to two SPECIFIC legendaries that tale about a year to unlock, even worse if Aun leaves the guild shop! Let's hurt the entire playerbase in order to stop less than 1% of players!
I agree with this 100%, it does set a precedent. If I was to switch from mutihit to mech it would take me over a year to get all the shards to get them all to legendary, and farm all the Imperial gear, orbs and badges. Mech is even harder as 3 out of 5 of the team all need the exact same resources/orbs/badges so the legendary nodes are even more of a bottleneck. In that time SP could decide Rho is doing too much damage and nerf the comp wasting over a years worth of progress.
Breaking Ragnar will just move the TA imbalance to the next strongest character.
This is an over reaction on there side too. I farm for the last 6 month to put together a good multihit team. I finally have a d2 ragnar, literally this is the first season when I can start to play with my team, and now he got a nerf. The reset stone doesn't give back my time. I feel shit because my work and effort is nothing after that. If ragnar will bad in raids, and the multihit team will much worst after the nerf i quit. They dont respect my work and effort, i dont respect there game.
Simple fix would be if Ragnar's active requires you to select a target for it, like Gulgortz, and then he charges that target. That way it's easier to counter in TA, by staying out of range of Ragnar alone, and it means it can't be double tapped on the same turn, but it can be used again later in the battle. In TA it's less useful, in guild raids it's still fine, in regular arena it's also less broken but still useful.
I think an even simpler fix would be A) only allow Legendary characters in Legendary TA, that would stop endgame players farming noob starter teams for easy wins or B) put power level brackets into TA so players are matched more evenly like in Arena.
Nerfing Ragnar will just move the problem onto the next meta character/team. The problem is anybody with an endgame roster can play in the low leagues of TA.
As a fairly new player (4-5 months) the first and only legendary Ive gotten was ragnar, it made me happy and I have ofc invested alot in him since he is supposed to be strong too. This could be a serious blow to my account since he is one of my few strong characters atm.
People don’t take part in TA because they don’t. It has nothing to do with Ragnar. People constantly complained about TA long before Rag or AunShi were available characters. TA just isn’t very good, it’s fun for 10-15 matches but then it’s just meh… Remember Thad/Calandis/Celistine/Calgar teams lol? People cried about that too. Nerfing Ragnar will accomplish nothing, it’s funny that it’s even a discussion.
Absolutely agree 👍💯
TA is clunky and boring. Not worth the time waiting for some other wanker to move. Might be kind of fun if you could actually talk shit, unfiltered and uncensored.
The easy solution to my mind would be to make wolf howl work the same as Boss Gulgortz active. So when activated, Ragnar runs off and smacks something. That way Aunshi couldn’t be used to double up.
Rho and the Admech team are far more unbalanced to the point where they are best in class for most of the Legendary bosses. If you take out the only alternative (i.e the Ragnar multhit/crit teams), I don't see how that's good for the overall game. I don't really care about TA..like at all. I don't mind it if they change Aun'shi active to the point where the reset applies from the following turn (and hence two War howls can't be stacked). But SP's answer to the AdMech taking over the Meta is to..introduce a new boss?!
using howl only once per turn, not 'once per battle' (as you proposed in the video) is a fine change, I think. so aunshi still works, but not the double-stacking howl. which is "the problem" in pvp. and that would probably be enough. Wolves player here :)
I don't play TA, I simply don't enjoy it, not because of Ragnar but because I don't enjoy the format. It would be very annoying if Snowprint significantly nurf Ragnar for me and I loose the utility of him because of a game more I don't care about
Why nerf Ragnar and not exhitor rho just make him not available in tourney arena like what they did with orks
Such a tough time to be playing with this news being shared.
I refuse to play TA. I despise PvP modes in most games. Regular arena is fun because you’re fighting an AI, but no changes they could make would make me play TA.
Some people in TA act like AI
Reset Stone ?
I played Tacticus from the Start till the first big Nerfs they made.
Started again last Year and only made the last Ragnar LRE collected 150 Shards.
So i bought 350 Shards from Rogue Trader Shop und Guildshop.
Interesting video. My understanding is some of the other characters are getting nerfs and buffs as well, so a more gentle nerf to a range of characters feels more likely ? Maybe just my wishful thinking :) Also, I know Ragnar is ruining PVP, but that is one game mode. There are two characters much further in front of importance than Ragnar who need a nerf - Rho is killing GR and the fact Eldryon adds damage to every single hit meaning when a brand new character comes out first thing we do is check whether he can work with Eldryon. That's got to be ruining the design of the game in more important ways. Would love to see a lot more viable GR teams across the board.
Do you feel sad for the cracked raid bosses or something? Who cares if admech is good for PvE.
Why not just remove the dbl stack? Aunshi could still refresh Ragnar active, like any other active, but remove the double stack?
About damn time. Ragnar was making the game unbearable, I have him and hate what him and Aun'shi has done to the game... he's made a game titled TACTICUS anything but tactical. 75 characters and yet he's in every top team, that's not by coincidence.
I don't have him so can i get my guild raid credits back SP ? reset stone doesn't help me
It's a great idea to mix it up to keep things interesting but maybe with new characters that are just as powerful to counteract these meta characters 👍🏼...🤔 maybe even a Machine of War that can be useful enough to help with this problem.
Well since its nerfed give it free now?
Is Ragnar the only character getting an adjustment? Or should we expect a few characters to get some modifications
I think they talked about multiple buffs and nerfs
@Garoslol I wish we had a list. There's like 10 guys that could use a buff
Victory for the dusty boys
I actually just got Ragnar too... :(
Same here
I am scared because asault, i dont care about TA, i Will use other chapters if It is super nerfed
Or once per turn….
Devs showing that they are unrustworhy to hndle how we spend our time and money in the game. Slippery slope that leads to players withholding the spend that keeps the game afloat.
I have maximum Ragnar and maximum ragnar pack with all +11 weapon - months of lvling and I am going to leave the game
You’ve got it nailed
Why not just ban ragnar from TA?
It basically makes a ton of characters useless beyond G1. Like Jain Zar and Celestine for example
They just want new and upcoming units marketable for more money. They nerf old units to make new ones OP. Pretty much an artificial power creep made by devs...
Untrustworthy is saying the least in describing how the game is being handled by the developers
Absolutely, it is past time for Ragnar to be nerfed. I’m fine with it as long as the reset stone provides the materials invested
The reset stone would be useless, it will give back all the space wolf resources but none of the other SW are worth investing in. Ulf is about the second best currently but you would be mad to level him to the level you would have Ragnar at.
TA isn't the most played .. u can run some battles but not focus to much..
Ragnar and his howl should affect only space wolves and the issue end... as aunshi only for Taus...
Personally I have Ragnar in diamond 1.. cause I like him from the lore a lot...
In factions wars I play with space wolves
I think we are going in the cry baby drama and it's annoying..