I noticed a buff in the USAS, that thing owns like the KSG does now. The AA-12 and SPAS-12 didn't get buffed at all. They were said to have 9 pellets, but still only have 8. The model did get some more pellets and now is awesome. However, I find it strange how it cant kill someone half a meter in front of you, but 4 meters away. The striker did get a nerf, but like you said, spamability keeps it on top of all of the other shotguns.
Shotguns are what make CoD games for me honestly, I don't have MW3 but I watch countless videos from Xcal and you involving the shotguns in MW3. Also, seeing more Black Ops games would be pretty sweet.
@gibsonatorful A huge roll to be honest. Since there's no Blackbird or any trusting in the minimap, I've become a soundwhorer. My headset is Tritton AX Pro if you're wondering.
@TigerxBigcat I know, I just didn't believe it would make me survive trough the the "javelin glitch" death streak if it doesn't even save me from martyrdom.
@OpTicXcinema That was a glitch but they patched it. The buff was they added more pellets to each shutgun without the glitch but decreased the amount on the Striker.
ManinBlack the reason people mostly used the striker is because it was the only shotgun you could pretty much use to suceed with and the reason people dont use it anymore is not because of what they been told about it but because now they can test out the other shotguns which are now also useable unlike before the patch
I've noticed that either Blash Shield has been buffed or the Dead Man's Hand has been nerfed. You can't die to DMH anymore while having Blast Shield if you haven't taken any damage.
I really liked the whole striker "nerf" thing and completely agree with you: You tell them that the gun is worse now, and they immediately stop using it, and that was the intention of the patch.
The moddela1887 never got buffed or patched, its the second best shotgun now since the extended mag glitch is gone, it does most damage and has longest range
the spas, aa12 and model were not effected by the patch except for the fix for the extended mag glitch. the striker wasn't even nerfed all they did was fix the glitch so the striker is as good as it was without ext mags in the first place. Like you said it is still easily the best shotgun imho, the strikers annoyance was never its range or dmg it was that you have 20 shots to spam and that you can fire 3 shots for every 1 shot from a pump or lever action shotty.
You make some valid points, it's nice to hear your opinion on the shotguns, and I agree with you on the Strike, it's still a great gun to use. Great video!
@embolie95 Personal preference, for me, hip firing range is better, but then again it's easier to be accurate while ADS'ing. I like ADS with pump action shotguns.
Hey MIB, I think that the buff is just in your head, because it is confirmed that the only thing they did to the ksg and usas was make it shoot 9 pellets as standard without having to use ext mags.
my biggest thing about the striker is that with the lag comp, a lot of times i will die right as i see a guy and then i'll watch the killcam and it'll show the guy spraying like 2 or 3 shots into me and i'm just like 'wtf, that didn't happen on my screen"...it's not as bad as it used to be when the striker was more popular but it's like i have no time to react because i'll only hear/see one striker thud and then i'm dead
@BlackOppTamama Probably mine too, it's not even that good, but I still had the 2nd most kills and the best K/D out of all my guns in that game. I felt really comfortable using that gun.
@TheManlnBlack I agree It's fun as hell to use but I don't find it nearly as fun to watch because of how easy it is, You know that gun is amazing it's like using the T-95 almost, In MW2 at least the SPAS-12 took accuracy and timing with the striker it's just so easy to use, Just my opinion though.. You know I think your a beast using the striker won't change that.
I honestly haven't noticed a change with my usas, it still only takes one shot with damage at close range and 2-3 shots at mid range, same with my ksg with damage
@TheManlnBlack MW2: ACR, a useable m16, famas, tar21, aug (i know it was classed a LMG but come one we both know it was closer to an AR) in blops i used famas, galil, and AK. even then those were sporadic at best.
@TheManlnBlack just check out the mini map..watch the train of arrows from your team mates..all running in a line..and the Striker still pushes shit in.
For me best AA12 class, AA12 ext mags and damage secondary: anything perk 1: sleight of hand perk 2: hardline perk 3: steady aim specialist: scavenger sitrep dead silence. Got a moab with it :D
They buffed really buffed the KSG, you dont even need damage and you can 1 shot people like crazy. I slapped on a silencer and damage and only got 1 hitmarker throughout hte whole match and pulled around a 2+ kd
MIB I honestly believe the Model 1887 is the best shotgun in the game, I don't know it feels slot easier to handle and slot stronger. The Model is a precision weapon and if you get them in your crosshairs it's fairly easy to get a longshot.. Just my opinion
finally I totally agree the striker is still the best by the time the guy with the spas 12 shoots gets a hitmarker and pumps it the guy with the striker has already unloaded 3 or 4 shots and your dead
@MrGangsterjojo I never get compensated in 6v6, never. I feel like that thing only exists in GW. One of the million reasons why I don't play Ground War in this game, lol.
Your RIGHT!!! The Striker is still amazing, and shotguns didn't get much of a buff. All they did too the usas and ksg is give them their pellets from the extended mags glitich. The AA-12 and the spas suck now(8 pellets Really?) and the model is ok. USAS-12 and the Striker are the only ones worth using :/
@zombiesdude95 lol, what are you talking about? that's one of the things I love about the game! Best assault rifles in any cod game before, almost every gun is fun to use.
i don't know why people are saying striker is overpowered? If you want to know what overpowered is, try out type95 with FmG9's akimbo (secondary) while using Assassin pro Head Glitching.
@TheMortalPukk I prefer having soh as my starting perk because if I miss or need to reload I can switch to my MP9 fast and reload fast. It really doesn't matter :) i just like SOH more
@TheManlnBlack yess every week a black ops gameplay thumbz up to that lol but lemme askk this mib i dont use shotguns as much like sub machine guns an assault rifles but imma going to start using em i no lateeee lol but i jus wanan try since the patch came wat shotgun should i use spas or striker?
I noticed a buff in the USAS, that thing owns like the KSG does now. The AA-12 and SPAS-12 didn't get buffed at all. They were said to have 9 pellets, but still only have 8. The model did get some more pellets and now is awesome. However, I find it strange how it cant kill someone half a meter in front of you, but 4 meters away. The striker did get a nerf, but like you said, spamability keeps it on top of all of the other shotguns.
Shotguns are what make CoD games for me honestly, I don't have MW3 but I watch countless videos from Xcal and you involving the shotguns in MW3. Also, seeing more Black Ops games would be pretty sweet.
@Chalkhous They also made the pellets do more damage. The buff is so noticeable that it just can't be only on my head.
@gibsonatorful A huge roll to be honest. Since there's no Blackbird or any trusting in the minimap, I've become a soundwhorer. My headset is Tritton AX Pro if you're wondering.
@TigerxBigcat I know, I just didn't believe it would make me survive trough the the "javelin glitch" death streak if it doesn't even save me from martyrdom.
@OpTicXcinema That was a glitch but they patched it. The buff was they added more pellets to each shutgun without the glitch but decreased the amount on the Striker.
@PollyLumpkins I agree that with Specialist bonus it was overpowered. The range was ridiculous.
ManinBlack the reason people mostly used the striker is because it was the only shotgun you could pretty much use to suceed with and the reason people dont use it anymore is not because of what they been told about it but because now they can test out the other shotguns which are now also useable unlike before the patch
I've noticed that either Blash Shield has been buffed or the Dead Man's Hand has been nerfed. You can't die to DMH anymore while having Blast Shield if you haven't taken any damage.
I really liked the whole striker "nerf" thing and completely agree with you: You tell them that the gun is worse now, and they immediately stop using it, and that was the intention of the patch.
@OpTicXcinema As I said, they added more damage to shotguns. Pellet count isn't everything...
The moddela1887 never got buffed or patched, its the second best shotgun now since the extended mag glitch is gone, it does most damage and has longest range
what they did was raise the pellet count from 6 to 9 on the usas and ksg. they also patched the ext. mag glitch but built it into the usas and ksg.
the spas, aa12 and model were not effected by the patch except for the fix for the extended mag glitch. the striker wasn't even nerfed all they did was fix the glitch so the striker is as good as it was without ext mags in the first place. Like you said it is still easily the best shotgun imho, the strikers annoyance was never its range or dmg it was that you have 20 shots to spam and that you can fire 3 shots for every 1 shot from a pump or lever action shotty.
Nice gameplay as always. Love that you're doing more commentaries too!
Notice how the guy who almost killed you in Dead Man's Hand left the game right after you didn't die from it.
You make some valid points, it's nice to hear your opinion on the shotguns, and I agree with you on the Strike, it's still a great gun to use. Great video!
@embolie95 Personal preference, for me, hip firing range is better, but then again it's easier to be accurate while ADS'ing. I like ADS with pump action shotguns.
Hey MIB, I think that the buff is just in your head, because it is confirmed that the only thing they did to the ksg and usas was make it shoot 9 pellets as standard without having to use ext mags.
@siwere No it's not. FMG9's and the Type 95 are the only OP guns in the game.
I don't know if the update has even reached PS3 yet but I've seen a dramatic increase in Striker players the last couple of days.
@IOutDoSyndicate When did Sandy use Queen? + Yo, what's up guys was my intro before Sandy ever started commentating.
my biggest thing about the striker is that with the lag comp, a lot of times i will die right as i see a guy and then i'll watch the killcam and it'll show the guy spraying like 2 or 3 shots into me and i'm just like 'wtf, that didn't happen on my screen"...it's not as bad as it used to be when the striker was more popular but it's like i have no time to react because i'll only hear/see one striker thud and then i'm dead
@Dynasty2010ful Yeah, I agree that it is good if you're accurate, but still it's fire rate and clip size are no match for the striker.
The spas from Black ops is my favorite gun from all the cods
I agree with you on the ksg part. It sound weird and when it pumps it doesn't look cool. But the spas and striker looks cool.
first commentary in a long time man! do more, good commentator!
@BlackOppTamama Probably mine too, it's not even that good, but I still had the 2nd most kills and the best K/D out of all my guns in that game. I felt really comfortable using that gun.
Damage, cause specialist bonus does give range proficiency. Specialist bonus doesn't give damage proficiency... And range + damage is super powerful.
@bmfirchau Check out the description man, there's some of my best games out of all time imo.
@TheManlnBlack Well it is confirmed that the damage at close range is the same. Not sure about long range but i do think it has not changed
@TheManlnBlack I know, the spas just felt so awesome to use
@psyenergy1 But if you miss with the model, you're screwed. The striker is spamable, so it's better follow up shots and groups of enemies.
@TheManlnBlack I agree It's fun as hell to use but I don't find it nearly as fun to watch because of how easy it is, You know that gun is amazing it's like using the T-95 almost, In MW2 at least the SPAS-12 took accuracy and timing with the striker it's just so easy to use, Just my opinion though.. You know I think your a beast using the striker won't change that.
Shotgun Victims of IW
1.Akimbo Model 1887
2.Striker
Also IW has a history of making over powered secondaries...
@AirForceOne70 I wouldn't say so, I was using the striker with Grip and still got a moab. lol
@panteraboosh Yeah, I agree it's better this way then making it completely useless.
I feel like the spas was nerfed because they took away the extended mags glitch and didn't give it more pellets like they did with the ksg and usas
@XcRiMsOnReVoLvErX Exactly. A good SMG player will always win the gunfight unless the striker guy surprises him.
@ljldl91 Thanks, yeah not just "assuming by stats". I hate when people do vids just from what stats say, everyone can check those out themselves.
i love the usas12 i used before it was buffed because of the extra sprint
Nice video man, nice to hear some actual good advice on shot guns
@thegnarshedder I think so.
I honestly haven't noticed a change with my usas, it still only takes one shot with damage at close range and 2-3 shots at mid range, same with my ksg with damage
@The3lderGam3r Exactly.
In my opinion, they didn't even touch the striker. It still dominates.
@TheManlnBlack MW2: ACR, a useable m16, famas, tar21, aug (i know it was classed a LMG but come one we both know it was closer to an AR) in blops i used famas, galil, and AK. even then those were sporadic at best.
@TheManlnBlack just check out the mini map..watch the train of arrows from your team mates..all running in a line..and the Striker still pushes shit in.
@ItalianStallion0492 Yeah, that's exactly how I feel.
@NameGenerator97 Erm, it was?
you survived because the specialist bonus gave you blast shield :)
I think the Striker was only overpowered when with Specialist, because shotguns in real life can shoot over 100 yards
dead mans hand a.k.a [the pocket nuke ]
For me best AA12 class, AA12 ext mags and damage secondary: anything
perk 1: sleight of hand
perk 2: hardline
perk 3: steady aim
specialist:
scavenger
sitrep
dead silence.
Got a moab with it :D
@australiantaco1 OP means Over Powered as in the gun outclasses every other gun out there
LOL I wonder how many people will be going back to the striker now...
@BryanFury85 absolutely true........ unless you have a laser gun
They buffed really buffed the KSG, you dont even need damage and you can 1 shot people like crazy. I slapped on a silencer and damage and only got 1 hitmarker throughout hte whole match and pulled around a 2+ kd
hey man in black your english has improved dramatically
@TheManlnBlack I find the KSG very good now with the range proficiency on it...
MIB I honestly believe the Model 1887 is the best shotgun in the game, I don't know it feels slot easier to handle and slot stronger. The Model is a precision weapon and if you get them in your crosshairs it's fairly easy to get a longshot.. Just my opinion
@gabrielskater123 Does it say "Dutcher from Dutchland"?
finally I totally agree the striker is still the best by the time the guy with the spas 12 shoots gets a hitmarker and pumps it the guy with the striker has already unloaded 3 or 4 shots and your dead
really good gameplay! especially for a big open enough map and nice gunstreak!
@JackDagnaIs The update has reached the ps3, i recently seen ppl using the KSG & the USAS
I love your commentaries!
I aggree with them, want to hear some more commentaries :-D
@MrGangsterjojo I never get compensated in 6v6, never. I feel like that thing only exists in GW. One of the million reasons why I don't play Ground War in this game, lol.
Scorpion sniping like a boss.
Your RIGHT!!! The Striker is still amazing, and shotguns didn't get much of a buff. All they did too the usas and ksg is give them their pellets from the extended mags glitich. The AA-12 and the spas suck now(8 pellets Really?) and the model is ok. USAS-12 and the Striker are the only ones worth using :/
@zombiesdude95 lol, what are you talking about? that's one of the things I love about the game! Best assault rifles in any cod game before, almost every gun is fun to use.
3:03 lmfaoo. that dude is oblivious.
if u ask me they shouldnt even buff the striker because shotguns are sup[pose to be 1 to 3 shots because its a shotgun
i used the USAS even b4 the patch. it was good, they just made it better
5:47 guy goes flying
Keep up the great work. Black ops game play on Thursday. Call it "Black Ops Thursday's"
i don't know why people are saying striker is overpowered? If you want to know what overpowered is, try out type95 with FmG9's akimbo (secondary) while using Assassin pro Head Glitching.
@TheManlnBlack i think the mp7 borders OP but its not quite there
Black ops once a week sounds great, also please give tips when you are commentating.
5:45 LOL he goes flying.
@BryanFury85 Finally.
"THANK SPAS IT'S SATURDAY" for your weekly black ops post...lol
ive never really been a shotgun person...but ive been using the spaz nd its so much fun to use!!!!! idk why
its stil good, maybe best shotgun stil esp if u run specialist, literally the first game after the patch i got my first striker moab
Should upload the Black Ops games on a Sunday and name the series 'Shotgun Sundays'
@JacobSBierman i was getting consistent 1 shots with the naked spas 12 last night. the spas 12 seems to have improved if you ask me?
@TheMortalPukk I prefer having soh as my starting perk because if I miss or need to reload I can switch to my MP9 fast and reload fast. It really doesn't matter :) i just like SOH more
Just got range for the usas and it feels like a mw2 shotgun
@BryanFury85 You, sir, finally have told it how it is!
Every time i get a moab everyone on the other team leaves. The most kills ive got with a moab was two... and i play ground war.
striker is still overpowered IMHO
@TheManlnBlack yess every week a black ops gameplay thumbz up to that lol but lemme askk this mib i dont use shotguns as much like sub machine guns an assault rifles but imma going to start using em i no lateeee lol but i jus wanan try since the patch came wat shotgun should i use spas or striker?
I think people stopped using the striker after the patch because they wanted to play 1 hit shotgun style
@xNotZacharyx Yeah, I just noticed it. he got he's shit pushed it. lol
@TheManlnBlack Correcto.
@osuperkipjeo I said that in the video.
@Jrawh You really shouldn't be walking around without a helmet.
You can nerf shotguns but you cant nerf The Man in black
nice gameplay and commentary ;) i like full games and bonus with a moab ;)
will you livestream sometime?play with subscribers?
More black ops please!!!!!! You a beast bro keep it up!