One piece of advise for your future fencing is put your post on the outside to the fence that the animals aren't pushing against just the staples there pushing the wire against the post. Really like the videos.
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I understand what you are going through. I am having to replace all of our fencing as well. I am finding a 2 strand electric rope on the inside of the fence is working great to keep them off the wire for now.
How do you prioritize what your next project is? There are so many projects on the farm to get done, do you have a list of your projects? Like, how did you decide to build the greenhouse before fixing the fence?
Thanks for the great informative video. Would you talk about green house you have ? I like to know how much does it cost to maintain temperature in the winter ?
My goats do the same thing and go after my apple trees, too. They have actually tipped some over to get all the leaves off the top! The trees all survived so don’t worry!
Will always cost you more to do it cheaply nothing wrong going cheap in a emergancy repair. When starting homesteading or keeping animals Get the Infrastrcture first then the animals. yep i did learn the hard way to. ( If i had to do over). Took me 14yrs to get the land and about a week to get animals nine years later still making shelters and fencing for the animals You all have a great day!
True..we had only a few goats the first year with only a couple of kennel. Well the following spring we had a barn built, which later came more goats. 26 at one time ( too much kidding ) , but have since downsized to 10.
Great information first time on your channel. So I am thinking if you install a new fence with wood post H bracing at corners and a H brace every 80 or 100 feet and a wood post maybe every 30 feet, and a T post every 10 feet with the goat fence you talked about. I just think it might cost about $3.00 to $4.00 a foot, maybe you could get it done for $7.00 or $8.00 a foot. Again great information.
And the Goat pen I think I remember you saying that that is the pump out for your basement which pretty much runs for the entire year I just had an idea that you could dig out that back corner and create a small pond for those ducks they would quite enjoy it and the goats might enjoy flopping into it to cool off during the hottest part of your summer
To help prevent rotting on your wooden post or pressure treated post, get a 5 gallon bucket of roofing tar and paint the bottom half of the post to about 6 inches above ground and let dry for 24 hours before installing, this should help Prevent rotting in the damp soil you seem to have around your property.
Our goats are like prepositions.....they can go anywhere a mouse can go! We use a combination of rigid ‘pig wire’ that comes in galvanized welded 24’ x 5’ x 3/16” heavy rigid wire. You can lift a panel with no bend so its a one person move. They weigh about 60lbs ea. I have a 12”w x 6’d . I use 10’ railroad ties as posts that will last 60+ years and put one every ten feet with a 20’ hard gate. That’s the 2 acre spring paddock. The rest of the farm we use the mobile solar electrified fencing and rotate their grazing pattern to enrich the fields that were left fallow. It is a great meat and milk source, produces constant well distributed high quality fertilizer and we never have to feed them!
Hogs are diggers you might want bury a footer like a log or something to the bottom of the fence.Panels are best but at $25.00 per 16 foot expensive. I have too went through woven wire bought for my cattle and ended up taking it to the scrap yard. About 4 rolls of $279.00 a roll. cows stepped it down and shorted the fence and got out. Now a little bit wiser I have cattle panels about 440 foot x 250 foot roughly $1800 in panels maybe $1650 but I don't chase cows. 2- acres plus.Woven is cheaper but here with panels no stretching no bottom or top board to mess with you can get away with 1 post every 8 foot and the rigid strength on panels are always there and the panels will last probably 50 years plus to where the woven wire maybe 20 years depending where you are?Woven wire still cost I think $269.00 a roll=at 330 feet is $1300.00. Something to think about if you have to buy fence ? How many times do you want to rebuild that same fence?
Other than mowing the lawn. What are the goats for?? I use goat's milk in some of my homemade soaps, but, I don't like the taste, to drink, and I'm, definitely, not going to eat them. What do you use them for, or, are they just farm pets??
SSLFamilyDad well, if I was living back in Michigan,( I'm from there) I'd come buy your milk for soap making.( And that maple syrup your website says sold out of, no maple out here) I'm in ND right now, and can't find 1 person raising goats for fresh goat's milk. 😢😢 Stores here only have canned, and it smells soooo bad. Oh, and thank you for the tutorials. I'm building my homestead back there. That's why I'm out here, my work. I want it complete, or mostly complete, before I come back to stay. See, some of us listen... Don't quit my day job until it's complete, paid for in full, operational, and security nest egg is in place.. 😁
We never put fencing on the inside of a pasture, makes the corners much weaker and harder to fence and also makes it harder to add electric wire in the future on the inside.
When using hand cut posts like that one use cedar or redwood or osage Orange for rot resistance. Otherwise just get your bucket of old motor oil and soak the end that gets buried in it. It'll last several years that way. Better than pressure treat. One better is mix oil and creasote but getting it is hard these days. I'm the old days telephone and power poles were soaked in oil creasote mix. They also drilled a hole diagonally in the butt and corked it just above the dirt so they could come back and dump some more oil down the hole to make them last longer. Now they just replace them when pressure treat gives out. As far as wire goes save a bundle and get 2 foot cheap 2 by 4 welded wire and put it on the outside of the fence head high and wire the old and new wires together every six inches or so to marry the wires together. They can't get their heads stuck and you fixed the fence for like fifty bucks. With the wire on the outside it helps with goats breaking the welds standing on the wire. I know the feeling friend goats are a pain to fence in.
truckinmachine , "They also drilled a hole diagonally in the butt and corked it just above the dirt so they could come back and dump some more oil down the hole to make them last longer." That system is by far the best, posts have lasted 50 plus years using that method you suggested. It takes considerably more time but well worth it. I have also heard of people using a 55 gallon drum and soak the bottom 3' of posts in old oil and diesel mix overnight. Thumbs up !!
If you don't want them trying to escape, you should put in stimulating things in their environment. Such as really big logs, even old chairs or just stuff they can jump onto and get off the ground. O course keep those objects away from the fencing.
Awesome! We only have 10 acres, but I am constantly thinking of selling out and finding a house with more land. I enjoy your videos! Thank you for all you do. God Bless!
You dont need that much wire, wood or protection, there is easy way to keep the goats together without fence. very cheap way, all you need is tight one of the goat ( big one) to one of the trees the rest will play around and they wouldn;t leave or go away. keep one or two goats ( the big one) tight with robe(3M) to the trees. the rest free. and you will see.
You don't HAVE TO dig up the old posts. Just skink the new ones a foot or so away if keeping the exact placement isn't critical. Then just break off the old ones or leave them standing as you want. That might save you some time and work.
We've been looking at fencing on our new property and man, it is really expensive. I might start with electric and add goat and sheep fencing as I can afford.
Electric fencing is held off the ground to prevent shorting out. Good luck with your goats. Want better than good tools? Go to Kencove. You will find tools that are much better, less work for you as well.
Fencing always goes on the outside of the posts, never on inside. Electric wire can then go on inside along bottom and top. Also, if you put fence on the inside you cant properly tension around corners
Why in the world would you dig up a fence post? Only reason to do that is if it is cemented in or a gate or corner post. Pound another in beside it, grampa used local stripped poplar tree branches that we slowly replaced, some are still being used 50 years later.
Maybe you could have just knocked the post down with a sledgehammer. Then you wouldn't have to take out any Staples. Not trying to tell you what to do though
Fencing costs are what stopped my family from doing more than chickens. We have a real problem with predators, so we didn't want to feed all the coyotes and fox in the neighborhood. Good Luck.
Look out for people throwing away metal piping, perfect for posts, last a life time you will never have to repost, look on local selling sites, buddy up with a scrap metal guy, they find a lot.
There is something perverse about a goat; it will always do the opposite of what you'd wish. If you have a herd dog or a donkey to give them some protection, I wouldn't worry about the horns...clip them off with a bolt cutter when they're about an inch long, then cauterize with a hot iron. Makes them slightly less inclined to butt as well...
Put a drilled metal post inside the timber post and screw the metal to the wood after you have driven the metal post about 18" into the soil first.Paul D. ua-cam.com/video/8UNx4ISSV_E/v-deo.html
A major don't would be to NOT have 4x4 fencing with goats. You're going to kill a lot of goats with that. Doesn't matter the breed. Young goats are going to get their heads stuck through that 4x4. Most goat folks now use 4x2 no climb fencing. There are several brands of it. Some are red brand rangemaster gaucho there's several. You have to go to 4x2 if you don't want to put a lot of horn sticks on goats or kill a lot of them. I just don't think it's a great idea to put a video up saying do's and don'ts of goat fencing and you've got 4x4.
One piece of advise for your future fencing is put your post on the outside to the fence that the animals aren't pushing against just the staples there pushing the wire against the post. Really like the videos.
Good idea !!
You have an awesome little helper with you, miss those days.
Love seeing Summer out helping you! Looks like your weather makes working outside easier. Have a good one.
I just wanted to say, THANK YOU!
I recieved my bottle of maple syrup the other day and was SO EXCITED I just had to open it up and get a taste. It's DELICIOUS. I'm planning on pancakes or waffles this weekend.
Thanks again! Thank you for what you do and for sharing your life.
God bless you and your family. ❤
I understand what you are going through. I am having to replace all of our fencing as well. I am finding a 2 strand electric rope on the inside of the fence is working great to keep them off the wire for now.
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How do you prioritize what your next project is? There are so many projects on the farm to get done, do you have a list of your projects? Like, how did you decide to build the greenhouse before fixing the fence?
I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming.
Thanks for the great informative video.
Would you talk about green house you have ? I like to know how much does it cost to maintain temperature in the winter ?
Sslfamilydad what brand work boots do you have now
Yep, the great Escape!
Thanks for all the info
Do you have a video explaining why you decided to purchase the guinea hogs?
My goats do the same thing and go after my apple trees, too. They have actually tipped some over to get all the leaves off the top! The trees all survived so don’t worry!
Since the top of your chicken fields are open how are you protecting your chickens from hawks and similar predators?
Will always cost you more to do it cheaply nothing wrong going cheap in a emergancy repair. When starting homesteading or keeping animals Get the Infrastrcture first then the animals. yep i did learn the hard way to. ( If i had to do over). Took me 14yrs to get the land and about a week to get animals nine years later still making shelters and fencing for the animals You all have a great day!
True..we had only a few goats the first year with only a couple of kennel. Well the following spring we had a barn built, which later came more goats. 26 at one time ( too much kidding ) , but have since downsized to 10.
Great information first time on your channel. So I am thinking if you install a new fence with wood post H bracing at corners and a H brace every 80 or 100 feet and a wood post maybe every 30 feet, and a T post every 10 feet with the goat fence you talked about. I just think it might cost about $3.00 to $4.00 a foot, maybe you could get it done for $7.00 or $8.00 a foot. Again great information.
And the Goat pen I think I remember you saying that that is the pump out for your basement which pretty much runs for the entire year I just had an idea that you could dig out that back corner and create a small pond for those ducks they would quite enjoy it and the goats might enjoy flopping into it to cool off during the hottest part of your summer
I have been collecting chainlink fence people throw out. Is that something good to use? Or would they still get stuck in it?
Chain link would be great to use
To help prevent rotting on your wooden post or pressure treated post, get a 5 gallon bucket of roofing tar and paint the bottom half of the post to about 6 inches above ground and let dry for 24 hours before installing, this should help Prevent rotting in the damp soil you seem to have around your property.
Our goats are like prepositions.....they can go anywhere a mouse can go! We use a combination of rigid ‘pig wire’ that comes in galvanized welded 24’ x 5’ x 3/16” heavy rigid wire. You can lift a panel with no bend so its a one person move. They weigh about 60lbs ea. I have a 12”w x 6’d . I use 10’ railroad ties as posts that will last 60+ years and put one every ten feet with a 20’ hard gate. That’s the 2 acre spring paddock. The rest of the farm we use the mobile solar electrified fencing and rotate their grazing pattern to enrich the fields that were left fallow. It is a great meat and milk source, produces constant well distributed high quality fertilizer and we never have to feed them!
are the metal fence post more expensive than the wood posts? course then your connecting with wire not barbed staples
Can you do an update on the wood boiler please
Good vid. But dang, I just put in a bunch of 2X4 welded for goats. That stuff is expensive. But I learned!
We raised goats for about 15 years and ran about 60 head. Like an old goat guy once told me...if it will hold water it will hold goats...wise advice.
Do you have any plans for a cow
Very good, sir!
Great video..thanx
Looks like the wire is holding the post up,
Chinquapin is great for fence posts
Interesting tips, thank you
Put a single strand of barbwire on the bottom of the fence.It will help keep out unwanted pest too
Hogs are diggers you might want bury a footer like a log or something to the bottom of the fence.Panels are best but at $25.00 per 16 foot expensive. I have too went through woven wire bought for my cattle and ended up taking it to the scrap yard. About 4 rolls of $279.00 a roll. cows stepped it down and shorted the fence and got out. Now a little bit wiser I have cattle panels about 440 foot x 250 foot roughly $1800 in panels maybe $1650 but I don't chase cows. 2- acres plus.Woven is cheaper but here with panels no stretching no bottom or top board to mess with you can get away with 1 post every 8 foot and the rigid strength on panels are always there and the panels will last probably 50 years plus to where the woven wire maybe 20 years depending where you are?Woven wire still cost I think $269.00 a roll=at 330 feet is $1300.00. Something to think about if you have to buy fence ? How many times do you want to rebuild that same fence?
Other than mowing the lawn. What are the goats for??
I use goat's milk in some of my homemade soaps, but, I don't like the taste, to drink, and I'm, definitely, not going to eat them.
What do you use them for, or, are they just farm pets??
Brenda Bodwin they do taste good especial a fat wethers
Nigerian dwarfs have the sweetest milk, more milk fat.
SSLFamilyDad well, if I was living back in Michigan,( I'm from there) I'd come buy your milk for soap making.( And that maple syrup your website says sold out of, no maple out here) I'm in ND right now, and can't find 1 person raising goats for fresh goat's milk. 😢😢 Stores here only have canned, and it smells soooo bad.
Oh, and thank you for the tutorials. I'm building my homestead back there. That's why I'm out here, my work. I want it complete, or mostly complete, before I come back to stay.
See, some of us listen... Don't quit my day job until it's complete, paid for in full, operational, and security nest egg is in place.. 😁
Do you lock your goats up at night?
They make their way into the shelter if the weather is bad but we don't put them in or lock them up
@@SSLFamilyDad
Have you had any predator attacks inside the pen??
That's fence tool is also made to hold your staples to get them started with
the fencing should be on the inside of the post to help when they push against it
We never put fencing on the inside of a pasture, makes the corners much weaker and harder to fence and also makes it harder to add electric wire in the future on the inside.
@@SSLFamilyDadmakes fence weaker on the outside specially from goats pushing on it if you put corner post in right will be plenty strong
Living our Dream Homestead You’re right. My grandfather would have chewed me out if I stapled the fence on the outside. Lol.
When using hand cut posts like that one use cedar or redwood or osage Orange for rot resistance. Otherwise just get your bucket of old motor oil and soak the end that gets buried in it. It'll last several years that way. Better than pressure treat. One better is mix oil and creasote but getting it is hard these days. I'm the old days telephone and power poles were soaked in oil creasote mix. They also drilled a hole diagonally in the butt and corked it just above the dirt so they could come back and dump some more oil down the hole to make them last longer. Now they just replace them when pressure treat gives out. As far as wire goes save a bundle and get 2 foot cheap 2 by 4 welded wire and put it on the outside of the fence head high and wire the old and new wires together every six inches or so to marry the wires together. They can't get their heads stuck and you fixed the fence for like fifty bucks. With the wire on the outside it helps with goats breaking the welds standing on the wire. I know the feeling friend goats are a pain to fence in.
truckinmachine , "They also drilled a hole diagonally in the butt and corked it just above the dirt so they could come back and dump some more oil down the hole to make them last longer." That system is by far the best, posts have lasted 50 plus years using that method you suggested. It takes considerably more time but well worth it. I have also heard of people using a 55 gallon drum and soak the bottom 3' of posts in old oil and diesel mix overnight. Thumbs up !!
Protect your trees with the large sturdy plastic found at Lowe’s!
Best goat fence I ever found was a good nylon dog collar and a good chain
There She is Your Adorable Cute Little Buddy.
If you don't want them trying to escape, you should put in stimulating things in their environment. Such as really big logs, even old chairs or just stuff they can jump onto and get off the ground. O course keep those objects away from the fencing.
A strand of electric fencing around leg height and one about face height will help to keep the goats off of the fence.
How many acres do you guys have?
25 acres. 9 hay field, some pasture and the rest wooded
Awesome! We only have 10 acres, but I am constantly thinking of selling out and finding a house with more land. I enjoy your videos! Thank you for all you do. God Bless!
You dont need that much wire, wood or protection, there is easy way to keep the goats together without fence.
very cheap way, all you need is tight one of the goat ( big one) to one of the trees the rest will play around and they wouldn;t leave or go away.
keep one or two goats ( the big one) tight with robe(3M) to the trees. the rest free. and you will see.
You don't HAVE TO dig up the old posts. Just skink the new ones a foot or so away if keeping the exact placement isn't critical. Then just break off the old ones or leave them standing as you want. That might save you some time and work.
Ron Yerke
That's a good suggestion.
Thank-you.
We've been looking at fencing on our new property and man, it is really expensive. I might start with electric and add goat and sheep fencing as I can afford.
seems that goats get more and more aggressive when they have not enough food. And goats really can eat 24/7
If you redo the fencing put the wire in towards the animals so they cant push it out. They will just push it on the post instead
Oil the post .. lol may be it helps out with the rawting .. lol just crazy up idea .. what do i know .. lol 😋
Received our SSL Family maple syrup yesterday. Had it on pancakes this morning. Delicious flavor!.Sorry Mrs Butterworths, its time for you to go.
So glad it made it! Even happier you are enjoying!
Thank you.
Electric fencing is held off the ground to prevent shorting out. Good luck with your goats. Want better than good tools? Go to Kencove. You will find tools that are much better, less work for you as well.
The wire needs to be on the inside of the posts
Fencing always goes on the outside of the posts, never on inside. Electric wire can then go on inside along bottom and top. Also, if you put fence on the inside you cant properly tension around corners
Why in the world would you dig up a fence post? Only reason to do that is if it is cemented in or a gate or corner post. Pound another in beside it, grampa used local stripped poplar tree branches that we slowly replaced, some are still being used 50 years later.
The fence is stapled to the wrong side of the posts
Maybe you could have just knocked the post down with a sledgehammer. Then you wouldn't have to take out any Staples. Not trying to tell you what to do though
Fencing costs are what stopped my family from doing more than chickens. We have a real problem with predators, so we didn't want to feed all the coyotes and fox in the neighborhood. Good Luck.
by woven wire he meant to say "field fence" woven vs "goat and sheep woven"
Suprised your hay feeder is standing the way the legs are. Our bucks woulda surely tipped it over. Thanxs for the tips.
Look out for people throwing away metal piping, perfect for posts, last a life time you will never have to repost, look on local selling sites, buddy up with a scrap metal guy, they find a lot.
There is something perverse about a goat; it will always do the opposite of what you'd wish. If you have a herd dog or a donkey to give them some protection, I wouldn't worry about the horns...clip them off with a bolt cutter when they're about an inch long, then cauterize with a hot iron. Makes them slightly less inclined to butt as well...
if your fence will hold water it will hold goats
Put a drilled metal post inside the timber post and screw the metal to the wood after you have driven the metal post about 18" into the soil first.Paul D.
ua-cam.com/video/8UNx4ISSV_E/v-deo.html
Hi tensile. Best
If you have goats, so does your neighbour -the ancients
lol
Goats are gremlins 🤔 , I had no idea 🤣 .
Kudzu too. But Don't plant it.
Try putting some things for them to play with, they need entertainment. Makes them less interested with fence
A major don't would be to NOT have 4x4 fencing with goats. You're going to kill a lot of goats with that. Doesn't matter the breed. Young goats are going to get their heads stuck through that 4x4. Most goat folks now use 4x2 no climb fencing. There are several brands of it. Some are red brand rangemaster gaucho there's several. You have to go to 4x2 if you don't want to put a lot of horn sticks on goats or kill a lot of them. I just don't think it's a great idea to put a video up saying do's and don'ts of goat fencing and you've got 4x4.
Your fence is backwards
Oh we don’t eat pigs.