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Cornel West Sounds Off on Obama's Nobel Peace Prize
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2009
- Complete video at: fora.tv/2009/10...
Cornel West congratulates President Obama on receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, but cautions that the honor comes with tremendous responsibility. "It's going to be hard to be a war president with a Peace Prize," he says.
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In this intimate exploration, one of America's most gifted and provocative public intellectuals peels back the layers of a remarkable life. - Los Angeles Public Library
Cornel West is a philosopher, author, critic, and civil rights activist. His works include The Ethical Dimensions of Marxist Thought, Race Matters, and The African-American Century: How Black Americans Have Shaped Our Century.
"Peace is not the absence of conflict, peace is the presence of justice." I like it.
"Hard to be a war president with a peace prize..."
"ships in every sea..."
Wonderful! I like what this guy said.
Obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan and gets the Nobel Peace Prize.
Makes the Nobel Prize in to even more of a joke than it was when they gave it to Yassar Arafat, PW deKlerk, Teddy Roosevelt or Paul Krugman.
This is why I respect and admire Cornel West so much. I've heard 100 different opinions on Obama and the peace prize and never has ONE person mentioned "I wish his mother and father had lived to see this moment."
It's always the rhetoric of whether he deserves it or not, which Brother West does discuss, but only after giving sincere congrats and heartfelt wishes for The President's family. That's class. That's a perspective I wish more people naturally shared -- including myself.
You are what you practice keep trying you'll do just fine.YVO
@ColdGripHandle A black elder tells me that when Dr. King visited Baltimore in 1967 he said to some group something to the effect that "The real difference between us and our bemused white brethren is not that they're free and we're not, but that we KNOW we're not free while they believe they are."
Giving Obama the Peace Prize was like giving Danica Patrick a Safe Driving Certificate. Bu then again, Henry Kissinger and Menachem Begin also won the Nobel Peace Prize.
JUSTICE is a word overused by the LAZY.
I felt that I should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize. Qualifications?
Well, my name is NOT George W Bush. What else was required?
I stayed home all day and promised to become a better person. Where' my prize? I promised didn't I?
Cornel West for the peace prize 2019!
Trump beat him 3 times!
Same here, parallels with 1973 and Kissinger receiving the peace prize - where was the peace in Vietnam? People were still dying, just as people are still dying everyday in the middle east and central Asia.
Even the fella speaking can't avoid the fact that Obama was awarded a prize before he had done a damn thing.
Regarding 4:23: The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by a Norwegian committee, not a Swedish one.
NOT ONLY DOES HE DESERVE IT but I am rather shocked & saddened by all the people who don't realize why he deserves it, who feel their judgement is superior to the Nobel Committee, & who at the same time do nothing to better inform themselves or reconsider their prejudice against Obama in light of this or many dozens of other obvious indicators that Obama is an exceptionally positive&inspiring leader. He gives me (& BILLIONS of others) real & enduring hope for our collective future. Peace to ALL.
You have the subtlety of a Mack truck, only no one seems to be at the wheel.
A black style of expressing himself?? He is black!!! Hence the style.
Christopher Hitchens put it clearly, it's a virtual prize.
You don't know the first thing about me sport.
Well to be fair he DID own an armament manufacturing company. He had the key role in reshaping the iron manufacturer Bofors to a modern cannon manufacturer and chemical industry and is strongly associated with a 40 mm anti-aircraft gun based on a Bofors design. A premature obituary of Nobel by a French newspaper, condemning him for his invention of dynamite, is said to have brought about his decision to leave a better legacy after his death.
The second reason (this might burst your bubble) is because he wants to end the ineffective drug war by legalizing and decriminalizing drugs... hmmm... so tough to figure out!!!
is it just me, or does Cornel West remind you of the black Cosmo Kramer?
Was not slavery still legal when the South succeeded?
What was there problem anyway?
Could it have been, TAXES?
@karizmatik1 Which one of his books did you read that gave you that impression?
@eastbaybochat I've actually MET a number of Cornel West's students, and they all describe him aa a GREAT teacher. They talk about the infectious enthusiasm that he brings to teaching, They talk about how he relishes the life of the mind, and encourages students to do likewise. So, I guess a lot depends on WHO you talk to.
WHAT! You're out of your mind. Check out his speeches. Brother Wets is one BAMF
Although Professor West espouses some great, socialistic ideals...he comes short of being disillusioned with the system. That is his downfall.
@InfinityNebula the strange thing is I'm actually not.
Even if he is racist, a libertarian, especially Ron, usually has a deep faith in the Constitution because that document alone grants most of what all human beings need or would want. Ex: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, EQUALITY
Still, the school of thought is motivated by historical figures from Ghandi to Nelson Mandela to MLK ... "Black Liberation Theology" is simply an African American way of defining their own unique ideology, which was pretty much created by Martin Luther King
What did Obama’s day about factory jobs “there are never coming back”. What did trump say about jobs? “We will tax American companies that have left the states and bring their products back to sel to the American people”
he was in the class of 1969 Will C Wood Jr High
dean of what? sociology? lol african american studies? lol no racism no identity theory no cornell west
There are a million reasons for doing anything, and the ones cited are not always the driver.
4 generations ago, we were divided over whether blacks were human or not. For 2 generations we have been divided over whether fetuses are human or not.
No one is willing to go to war over it.
But if there were a war, they will use every moral issue they can find to motivate the troops.
@SagesseNoir Totally agree. Never a truer word spoken.
here's an idea - how about YOU try reading books that aren't about harry potter or hobbits. what are you in high school or something? lecturing people on what books to read when you've probably never gotten through a single book that didn't have vampires or dragons in them. lol
Anyone who would claim to be too smart for anything is neither smart nor too smart. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to post comments that remove all doubt.
It's not a conjecture. Racism is not always overt.
He invented dynamite, which has many uses besides the obvious military applications, and he funded the prizes creation so he would be known for more than just destruction.
The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. In 1994 it was given to Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin. Enough said.
i took a graduate seminar course on american socialism and we spent the entire first term reading only marx - the communist manifesto, selected readings from das kapital (volumes 1-3), theses on feureback (sp?), on the jewish question, his critique of kant, his views on hegel. we read the peter singer biography.
in fact ask me anything on marx or gramsci. ask me about his articles he wrote for the new york times (during the civil war). ask me about his time in soho, anything
What does Morpheus think?
the guy is a fucking professor..
If racism was eliminated, maybe he would be a Dean? lol
because like most, not all, but most blacks in this country they are color blind when it comes to there own race.
You're inebriated, as Disraeli put it, by the exuberance of your own verbosity.
@tnekkc The mere fact that YOU don't understand is not proof that what West says has no meaning.
@Gearhe1d wow, very solid point. I thought that you were just talking about what he says in this video.
@Phunkywhiteboy lol. I should have specified. No harm done man....
i absolutely think that obama should not have gotten that prize
I know exactly what racism is, I'm looking right at it.
Protect your kind, bro. Protect your kind.
@tnekkc Thank you for getting to the heart of the matter.... the BS.....right on point.
nobel PEACE prize. sort of like the K in the knife in the voters back.
@Petrhrabal What "hippies" are you referring to? Incidently, hippies were rarely if ever Marxists. But I do recall reading that Soviet propagandists often used the word "hippies" to contemptuously describe those known in the West as the "new left." It appears that BOTH Soviet and Western ruling elites despised dissidents. Fortunately, our rulers didn't use tanks as yours did in Prague. But they didn't mind occasionally using state police or National Guard on campuses against "commie hippies."
cornell west would be unemployed if racism was eliminated. think about it.
He can write all the books he wants.
That is not going to hurt anyone with his silly blathering.
He can pray for us swedes if he like to but the peace price committee are all Norwegian politicians and the peace price ceremony is in Oslo.
The reason for this is probably that Alfred Nobel did not think the Swedish government (at the time) was "peaceful" enough.
I think people have not researched the history of the Nobel Peace Prize. Cornel West is very accomplished and intelligent. I need to preface my statement that he gets it wrong in this video - dead wrong.
Obama inherited two wars. He was highly critical of the war in Iraq. People can disagree with the precedent by why Obama received the prize but the awarding of the prize was solid.
I mostly agree with what he says, except that he is totally wrong when it comes to Fredrik de Klerk. de Klerk was crucial in ending appartheid, so the Nobel Peace Prize for him was more than fair.
who heard wrong. read a newspaper or something
Oh, ok. I get it now. I can hold people to different standards simply because of their skin color! That makes sense.
You don't know half as much as you think you do.
Yeah, I said the same thing to myself when he was on Bill Maher 2 weeks ago.
@tnekkc I do greatly admire Noam Chomsky. He is in fact a much more RADICAL and left-of-center critique of the status quo than is Cornel West. West, who is a highly intelliegent and sensitive cultural and social critic as well, often just doesn't go far enough. I said as much in a critical review I wrote on his book DEMOCRACY MATTERS: WINNING THE FIGHT AGAINST IMPERIALISM.
I'm sure it was.
yeah, i mean mccain and palin would have been SO much better for black people. how can they NOT see that?
Preach,brother,preach!!!Well said indeed.
TRUTH REQUIRES NO THOUGHT. TRUTH IS WHAT IS. ONLY NON-TRUTH REQUIRES THOUGHT TO EXIST. ~p.i.e
Still wondering what he did to earn the "prize"...
Just Google all of his accomplishments
@@alyjulmim8447 it took you 10 years to respond to that?
In the same week I heard that he was getting the Nobel and that he was sending 40,000 additional soldiers to war.
WTF?
... and one less thing makes sense to me in the world.
Well I'm white and I don't feel the least bit excluded from the conversation. Spare me your victim mentality and character projection.
"It's gunna be hard to be a war president with a peace prize."... apparently not.
'Fuck this nigga' is a logical fallacy: it doesn't provide any logic to support its premise (the premise being that the other person is wrong, which is why the rapper says 'fuck him' or whatever.)
Yes, rappers use 'fuck this nigga' in lyrics.
No, it's not a rhetorical tool any intellectual person would employ in a reasonable dialogue.
QED
@Monscent
Alfred Nobel was Swedish. Other Nobel prizes are awarded by Swedes. It's an easy faux pas to make.
It is easy to see when others are judgmental, but difficult to see when we are.
GO READ IT!
You spelled wits wrong...
Mr. West, how do your words taste today, swallow and weep.
alright I was speakin in generalities, but my point was that he is intelligent and scholarly and of a similar strain to MLK .. whether you want to admit it or not
Audio?
Five minutes of talk - and absolutely nothing said.
I was specifically talking about Obama, sweetheart. I am the only white female in my office. I live with them, I work with them. I like some of them, but the majority SUCK.
Whit is a word, I'm not arguing that, I just don't think it's the one you're looking for.
@godscuttingyoudown This was in 2009. So we did indeed have to wait and watch.
@tnekkc And SLAVERY was one of the most profitable enterprises in America, if not the world. So it was about defending PROFITS, and slavery was profitable. it is because the southern planters feared that their source of profit was endangered in favor of the profits of industrial northern capitalism that the South secede--and LOST.
@SagesseNoir May seem odd, but thanks, that helped me explain to a few peers how arguments work.
@tnekkc By the way, Cornel West already has tenure as well a books that are read in universities here and Europe. Now I have my own issues and critiques of West, as West well knows. But I bother to READ him first.
@tnekkc In fact, Cornel West is a talented speakers as almost anyone who has heard him will affirm. The fact that you don't like what he says doesn't make him a poor speaker.
What the hell did Obama do to win the Nobel Peace Prize???? What a joke this President is.
@lakeeriejew Sorry. That's not how RATIONAL discussion works. if YOU make a charge against someone, then YOU must offer an argument to PROVE it, making allusion (where need be) to supporting evidence. You may NOT simply state your claim and then ask your ADVERSARY to seek out the evidence for YOUR claim. You must provide that evidence. Therefore, I again ask you to MAKE AN ARGUMENT to support your charges against West.
@Monscent
I understand your point.
My point was that while Dr. West's judgment of Obama, past recipients, and the Nobel Peace Prize committee-though apparently correct-was harsh and exacting, and that even if the law of retribution required that someone must do likewise to him, your cavil avoided the substantive issues on which you could have based your objection and remained-because of your being offended-upon the personal level, which is of no use in intellectual discourse.
Bless you
. . . not exactly an intellectual giant
@OKandNOWwhat He was swedish but the Peace price has always been nominated and awarded by the Norwegians. I don't see why you feel the need to make excuses for this? I am always of the opinion that people should research stuff better before they try to pass judgements, apparently mr. West has not done that here.
Cornel West has been getting his inspiration from Professor Irwin Corey.
type into the search bar: Ron Paul drug war
The president needs to give his Nobel Peace Prize back. He didn't deserve it and he's broken more domestic and international laws than Bush. I regret even voting for him...
I think I should read this book by Cornell West . I'm sure I would learn something .
Brother Cornel, you should pray for the Norwegians as the Peace Prize is theirs to give.
Cornel West is so bad at speaking that he makes everyone else on TV sound better.
Stringing abstractions without meaning makes him sound intelligent to himself, but others are laughing.
7 wars LATER
admit it. you have never even bothered to read The Communist Manifesto, have you? and it's such a short book!
@ColdGripHandle - I agree. Some of the founding fathers and many people since argue that revolution is freedom (and saying/implying that after revolts, we are not free). hmm. lots to think about. that is why i love listening to Mr. West. Gets me shifting gears and going in a positive direction. except for my comment below. I was reading so much political material I got mouthy =)
@RyanLoveheart
It is anti propaganda to fight the communism and pretentiousness of West.
@khghountch
Is Chomsky as good at math as Kazinsky?
Is Chomsky as good at politics as Palin?
Is West as good at speaking as Kim Kardashian?
No, No, No.