People today don't understand what crossing a line that could not be crossed means as described at 49:17. I was an American Soldier stationed in West Berlin, and the Wall prevented us from crossing into the east. Returning after the Wall fell, my highest priority was walking through Brandenburg Gate. After I did it, I found a Cafe and savored a glass of Sekt
I was stationed in Berlin after the wall dropped til the deactivation in 94, going into the East was like going back in time. Was also stationed in West Germany when the wall dropped in Nov 89. Was interesting to being on both sides, the people of Berlin had a total 180 attitude of those in the West like Nuremberg my first duty station.
I worked at Marienfelde in 79-82. I looked at the wall everyday. In 2018, I took my kids back and went to the KuDamm and had a Bratwurst and pommel frittes😂😂
my uncle peter who recently passed spent 6 years in that stasi prison. when he got out he told us the only thing that kept him alive were the math classes he took. in memory in the dark during long periods of sensory depreciation he would do these math problems in his head, according to him. i have no idea why he ended up there in the first place
So that woman who admitted to passing information about Nuclear weapons to the Russians wasn't put in jail or up against a wall? I thought doing something like that would result in execution.
You must have missed the part about there not really being any morality to the whole game. She was lucky. I dunno, read some John Le Carre novels, or even Alan Furst. The agents are just pawns, and they usually do just end up shot. But not always -- if they have valuable information, and they're in the right place at the right time, they get whisked away for debriefing and given a new identity. That old woman probably had to live under an assumed name in a foreign country, and lamenting the whole time how she was played by that dashing young Romeo. I think that's punishment enough.
@brandonlewis2599 You think a new name and life, is punishment enough for trading nuclear weapon secrets? You also admitted to they're being a lack of morality and spys being simply shot, wonder why "She" wasn't shot.
@@brandonlewis2599 More to the point, the death penalty was banned in West Germany after 1949. East Germany continued to execute alleged spies (and others) until 1981. Of course, it continued until 1989 to murder without trial those attempting to escape Communist dictatorship.
My friends stepdad was in the Royal Irish Rangers a regiment in the British Army and he was stationed in West Berlin in the late 80s for a few month's and he told me sometimes KGB agents made themselves noticed usually seen in trench coats pretending to be reading a news paper or drinking a coffee or whatever but they always been seen always watching taking pictures or noting movements of NATO soldiers the British soldiers was always warned of this when deployed in Germany at the time as proof this actually was a thing it is mentioned in a documentary done by Forces News about the Brixmis operations of British Army intelligence officers going into East Berlin under a freedom of movement agreement aslong as they were unarmed, in uniform and with the right paperwork NATO soldiers could go into the DDR it was due to these operations the British was able to get their hands on the T-80 projectile armour before any other nation
@@abdullahiabdille-r2f Well Germany is not Iraq. The Stasi was not simply a KGB Sub-Division, of course they had to align to the "great brother" on major issues, yet they had their own interests. The KGB would never had the chance to place a Asset near a West-German Chancellor etc. Also ruZZian are ruZZian and Germans are not. Complete different mindset occupied or not.
@@abdullahiabdille-r2f Now i have to list my Russian friends?🤣I give a F on the Stasi and KGB both are evil empires. You Keyboard warrior unlike my family never witness any of them.
Your editing is dodgy. The quote at 6:27 "America has never been in the intelligence business" sounds extremely truncated. And we know that the USA has had intelligence systems in operation from the 18th century in its war of independence.
It's true that the US has had intel agencies going back to the revolutionary times, like the Culper Ring, but the US tended to create intel agencies when needed during times of war, which is what they did with the COI and OSS in WW2. But the Soviets had a continuing intel/secret police agency for decades, even in "peace" time. So the Soviets did have an advantage at that time. The early days of the CIA had a lot of "cowboys" in it, who probably resembled daredevil special ops types, rather than sophisticated intel-gathering agents.
The denomination of the original production company of this intrigues me. Babel DOC. But WHO, amid the incessance of voices, has the controllata? I said "WHO'S GOT THE ****ING REMOTE CONTROL? 🤣Nice one team. ❤️👍🌟
Meh, Rather one-sided. The Russians certainly weren't "always one step ahead of the Americans". Further more, this pretty much only covers Russian successes, while in reality, the Americans had spices in the highest places, like Soviet Military Intelligence. And it wasn't dumb, little secretaries, but the men in charge.
Teufels berg today is dedicated to art??? My God, is the guy completely blind, what art??? This horrendous scarecrow should have taken down a long time ago!!!
Oh, please don't narrate in English over foreign speakers in your documentaries. (Just use subtitles). Because you lose so much of intonation and atmosphere. And it's something the Germans & French do...becauce they think their audience is too dumb (or refuse) to be multilingual. Those (many) of us who watch HH are quite able to speak/understand several languages. Be better HH✌🏻.
@@stoker1931janeI I understand what you’re saying, but English spoken is easier for the majority of people. i think they should make two versions though
Ignorance is a grave error. The Sun never set on the British Empire. Do you honestly think that such a large empire that had parts in every continent on the planet could survive as long as it did without an intelligence service? Or defeated it's enemies without one? How else does one keep an eye on them? Once the Telegraph and the Telephone were invented, the modern game of spying came to it's own, but even before that in the Napoleonic Wars, the British had spies and agents, sending back intelligence to Britain and it's allies. So, try reading up on a subject before opining on it.
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People today don't understand what crossing a line that could not be crossed means as described at 49:17. I was an American Soldier stationed in West Berlin, and the Wall prevented us from crossing into the east. Returning after the Wall fell, my highest priority was walking through Brandenburg Gate. After I did it, I found a Cafe and savored a glass of Sekt
I was stationed in Berlin after the wall dropped til the deactivation in 94, going into the East was like going back in time. Was also stationed in West Germany when the wall dropped in Nov 89. Was interesting to being on both sides, the people of Berlin had a total 180 attitude of those in the West like Nuremberg my first duty station.
I worked at Marienfelde in 79-82. I looked at the wall everyday. In 2018, I took my kids back and went to the KuDamm and had a Bratwurst and pommel frittes😂😂
Blake isn’t laughing now 😂. Your side lost
And our side borrowed ideas and continues on doing terrible things
@@williamwest9204like committing war crimes and genocide in Ukraine
@@joshf3861 funding it yes, also dont forget obama allowed a coup to overthrow the previous democratic elected president in ukraine.
Any small nation in its dealings with the empires is like a mouse having to choose between cats as friends.
@@RebeccaOreyour ignorance is laughable.
If your opponent is complimenting you at how good you are it means that your not a threat to them but rather feeding into your stupidity
Many of the spies (Markus Wolf, Gunter Guillaume) bear more than a passing resemblance to George Smiley (and not to James Bond).
Yep. Total grey men. So completely unremarkable to look at they simply blend into the background. In another life, they’d be serial killers.
Excellent documentary. so interesting. Thank you.
Very interesting 😊
Larry Laker deserves a mention.
That dude's laughter is a crime by itself.
my uncle peter who recently passed spent 6 years in that stasi prison. when he got out he told us the only thing that kept him alive were the math classes he took. in memory in the dark during long periods of sensory depreciation he would do these math problems in his head, according to him. i have no idea why he ended up there in the first place
Production/editing is *on point*.
It was informative, truthful, and thrilled watching 👀 documentary....thank you ( Hit history) channel
Excellent video, thank you. I do think you're wrong about the threats from abroad, however. Cheers
I would prefer to live under the American ideology than the Soviet ideology ANYDAY.
RS. Canada
Same. America isn’t perfect, but they usually have the right mindset.
These days, what's the difference?
There are places with a wider range of political options than the US.
Неплохо вам мозги промывают там на западе
my little green grasshopper.
Excellent documentary as always. Love the channel and HHTV. Appreciate you showing both sides. Even if one is objectively wrong.
So that woman who admitted to passing information about Nuclear weapons to the Russians wasn't put in jail or up against a wall? I thought doing something like that would result in execution.
You must have missed the part about there not really being any morality to the whole game. She was lucky. I dunno, read some John Le Carre novels, or even Alan Furst. The agents are just pawns, and they usually do just end up shot. But not always -- if they have valuable information, and they're in the right place at the right time, they get whisked away for debriefing and given a new identity. That old woman probably had to live under an assumed name in a foreign country, and lamenting the whole time how she was played by that dashing young Romeo. I think that's punishment enough.
@brandonlewis2599 You think a new name and life, is punishment enough for trading nuclear weapon secrets? You also admitted to they're being a lack of morality and spys being simply shot, wonder why "She" wasn't shot.
@@brandonlewis2599 More to the point, the death penalty was banned in West Germany after 1949. East Germany continued to execute alleged spies (and others) until 1981. Of course, it continued until 1989 to murder without trial those attempting to escape Communist dictatorship.
Maybe that fact tells you more than you think.
read the secret team by fletcher prouty
Sadly nothing has changed.
translations have differences from the original message of the speakers
Story ko history banane ka alag hi maja । hai।
Story 🎯 hit kaise होगा जैसे कोई ............................fill in blanks. Okay 🆗
And today?
"She was sat on a terrace in Bonn..." Who sat her there?
now we know how weak they are and were ussr nothing but paper tiger
Lol your wrong on so many levels
showing weakness@@williamwest9204
My friends stepdad was in the Royal Irish Rangers a regiment in the British Army and he was stationed in West Berlin in the late 80s for a few month's and he told me sometimes KGB agents made themselves noticed usually seen in trench coats pretending to be reading a news paper or drinking a coffee or whatever but they always been seen always watching taking pictures or noting movements of NATO soldiers the British soldiers was always warned of this when deployed in Germany at the time as proof this actually was a thing it is mentioned in a documentary done by Forces News about the Brixmis operations of British Army intelligence officers going into East Berlin under a freedom of movement agreement aslong as they were unarmed, in uniform and with the right paperwork NATO soldiers could go into the DDR it was due to these operations the British was able to get their hands on the T-80 projectile armour before any other nation
These people are evil
Typical Soviets taking credit when actually the east german Stasi took the Job.
tell me how can a people who is occupied take charge?
its like saying the iraqi intelligence service was in charge under the usa occupation
@@abdullahiabdille-r2f Well Germany is not Iraq. The Stasi was not simply a KGB Sub-Division, of course they had to align to the "great brother" on major issues, yet they had their own interests. The KGB would never had the chance to place a Asset near a West-German Chancellor etc. Also ruZZian are ruZZian and Germans are not. Complete different mindset occupied or not.
just say you hate russian@@sunrae3971
KGB owned your sweed litle stasi
@@abdullahiabdille-r2f Now i have to list my Russian friends?🤣I give a F on the Stasi and KGB both are evil empires. You Keyboard warrior unlike my family never witness any of them.
@@sunrae3971 западенец с окраины, а ты не шифруешься однако
KG USE TO B
😂 can’t believe thats the first time I’ve seen that
Да были времена! USSR ❤
In re the origin > purpose of this film, to what in truth does the acronym DOC refer?
Your editing is dodgy. The quote at 6:27 "America has never been in the intelligence business" sounds extremely truncated. And we know that the USA has had intelligence systems in operation from the 18th century in its war of independence.
@@deesus1085 No sane person would read "communists" into that comment. Yours, however, reveals you to be a squawking parrot.
How do you know the editing is dodgy? Did you see a longer version?
It's true that the US has had intel agencies going back to the revolutionary times, like the Culper Ring, but the US tended to create intel agencies when needed during times of war, which is what they did with the COI and OSS in WW2. But the Soviets had a continuing intel/secret police agency for decades, even in "peace" time. So the Soviets did have an advantage at that time. The early days of the CIA had a lot of "cowboys" in it, who probably resembled daredevil special ops types, rather than sophisticated intel-gathering agents.
Uncle John, wanted ta ask ya about Dad
What is music's name at 12.00 minutes en documentary? There is someone knowing that music name? Really it is well-fitted with documentary.
First is here....others are clones🤣
America is so awesome. In the end they always do what’s best.
Lol if money is to be made sure
Last of the three empires standing. No so nice if you look at Latin America and SE Asia (the SE Asians don’t like the Chine either.
Nah 😂😂😂
Naive of you.
…..once they e expended every other solution.
We were stronger because we had ideology on our side. Oops, wrong.
Still releasing reruns of reruns!
The denomination of the original production company of this intrigues me. Babel DOC. But WHO, amid the incessance of voices, has the controllata? I said "WHO'S GOT THE ****ING REMOTE CONTROL? 🤣Nice one team. ❤️👍🌟
In God We Trust is not a logo...
Meh, Rather one-sided.
The Russians certainly weren't "always one step ahead of the Americans".
Further more, this pretty much only covers Russian successes, while in reality,
the Americans had spices in the highest places, like Soviet Military Intelligence.
And it wasn't dumb, little secretaries, but the men in charge.
Spices?
👍👍👍
Teufels berg today is dedicated to art???
My God, is the guy completely blind, what art???
This horrendous scarecrow should have taken down a long time ago!!!
Oh, please don't narrate in English over foreign speakers in your documentaries. (Just use subtitles). Because you lose so much of intonation and atmosphere. And it's something the Germans & French do...becauce they think their audience is too dumb (or refuse) to be multilingual. Those (many) of us who watch HH are quite able to speak/understand several languages. Be better HH✌🏻.
What about people with Dyslexia or eyesight issues, who may not be able to read subtitles ?
Sorry dear@@richie4830, I truly hadn't thought of that✌🏻😐.
Ignorant and wrong
I'm happy with the voice over because I cant see that well or leave the room. Dont change because some douche thinks they're better than you
@@stoker1931janeI I understand what you’re saying, but English spoken is easier for the majority of people. i think they should make two versions though
A lot of sheep
British Intel service didn't exist then...
Wrong
if they didnt exist then what do you call the british intel service of pre and post ww2??!!!?!?!?!??!???!
Ignorance is a grave error. The Sun never set on the British Empire. Do you honestly think that such a large empire that had parts in every continent on the planet could survive as long as it did without an intelligence service? Or defeated it's enemies without one? How else does one keep an eye on them? Once the Telegraph and the Telephone were invented, the modern game of spying came to it's own, but even before that in the Napoleonic Wars, the British had spies and agents, sending back intelligence to Britain and it's allies. So, try reading up on a subject before opining on it.
I was being sarcastic….
First
Frist
sounds like a german general
Odd, didn't see Ukraine as a country back then 🤔 Probably because they weren't!
Your ignorance isn't something you should show off as a source of pride.
Ukraine was there, it was one of 15 soviet republics, hear: Ukrainian Republic!
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