Proper Random All In Vanilla GTA Online! - GTA 5 Chill Racing №60
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- A proof of concept of how close Rockstar's "Unknown Unknowns" races could be to true Random All!
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We at Project Homecoming are preparing a C&D alongside our owners Rockstar & Take2 Interactive. It will arrive at your doorstep in a matter of hours. You're done Kiddo.
Shit
Aww snap, shit just got real
April fool's
@broughy1322 next, use the vanilla gta transform checkpoints in GFRED.
RIP
it is crazy that this got added to the game 11 years after launch
Part of it probably was because r* is now part of 5M and could be where they got the unknown unknowns playlist ideas from
@@Andrew110 they didn't need to own FiveM to "take inspiration" from it
@@Andrew110 yeah that makes sense, i was thinking the timing was a bit "convenient".
@@M0torsagmannen Not the first time they blatantly steal from the creative community.
This is so cool! Rare vanilla W
Edit: Oh, it isn't actually available to the creator and might get deleted? That's a bummer then!
Usually they add stuff like this to the creator at a later date.
IE Open wheel races and transform races
Still no cayo island in creator
@@st_jimmy_crimson_xii Not gonna happen until they figure out how to make the framerates on that island more stable.
If they ever will.
@@pedinhuh16 well can they figure that out for the summer update. I want make races on the island. It's been like 3 years
Now watch Rockstar set limitations like "maximum 5 laps" and no chance of changing the time and weather.
Would be awesome if they didn't think so restrictively though.
The plane banking through the jump zone was a fantastic bonus!
"I can't understand getting duplicates at all"
It's a generalised version of the birthday paradox - you need surprisingly few people in a room to have a > 50% chance of 2 of them sharing a birthday. I think it's 22 or 23. Same applies here - while there are hundreds of cars to choose from and only a limited number that you'll use, there are many many more pairings of those cars you use, and so not that unlikely you'll get the same one twice in a race.
Twice in 2 laps though... that is definitely unlucky!
Maybe I'm off base here, but there's no such thing as a truly random, digital randomizer? A number generator has to use some type of "seed" to start its equation, system time, IP address, etc... So my guess here is Rockstar probably just is using sub-par algorithm?
@@95mushroomno, this kind of stuff is only relevant for security reasons as it might be possible for people to predict the next number, but the “randomness” of them is perfectly adequate for almost everything.
@@95mushroom They aren't going to be bad enough to be noticeable in this way, they're just not often cryptographically secure, ie random enough to withstand an attack if being used to generate a random encryption key or something. Having said that though, access to cryptographically secure algorithms is pretty commonplace these days so it could still be, not that it would be needed for something like this. It certainly wouldn't be a noticeable effect either way.
It could be human bias. Humans never think true random playlists are trully random. In fact many streaming services have a fake random that is designed to feel random to humans.
However, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is trully random. We've all experienced in gta before, for exmaple, that cars loaded into memory will show up in traffic more. It could be a factor that we aren't aware of.
I can't wait to hear about the slower Penumbra and the slower Rapid GT
Random All Bingo:
- Project Homecoming
- Vanilla GTA
- Oooh! That was close!
- NO WAEAEAE!!1!
Getting the Blazer Aqua back to back was your punishment for respawning 😂
21:08 I saw that "MILLIONS TO ONE" lol
Your enthusiasm during this race was the most entertaining part. Psyched for you, your crew, fans & the idea that this turned into a reality. Thanks so much! 🙌🙏🧡
Rockstar: Right, we are going to allow (sort of) random all races in vanilla. But we're not having RON liveries yet, so what livery do you want Broughy?
Broughy (probably highly drunk): *_Y E L L O W C A R_*
The fact that you can respawn to get a different car could become a pretty interesting feature... You could get a predetermined amount of respawns per game and use them during the race to skip a bad car.
Nothing beats Project Homecoming Random Alls, but that is actually really nice
For the 2nd time, i synced up your feed with Broughy and watched them side by side on my monitors. Watching the tanker truck (RBS) slam down on the yellow Baller from the two different angles was intense. Keep up with the content fellas, we appreciate it! (Comment duplicated on Broughy1322)
Love how Rock* have been taking notes. You should get royalties 🤣🤣
he laughed at someone getting the surfer in the very first ever random all and now here he is getting one himself on the very first vanilla GTA random all as well
I think a Random All gfred would actually work quite well in vanilla.
Let's say someone arrives at any given checkpoint and gets something that's slow. They could respawn to roll the dice again, but this costs time.
Say I'd get a Dozer at the airport. I respawn to get something bland and boring. Do I accept that, or do I respawn and try again knowing I can get a supercar, or something slower again? When is the given car fast enough to accept, and to catch up to whoever got lucky?
Perhaps the time loss can be made even bigger with some creative props. For example the airport, make the checkpoint a LOT bigger than it has to be. Make sure the respawn area is within some construction of props which has to be carefully driven out of. If you don't respawn you're fine, but if you do decide to respawn you'll have to wait for props to move or something.
Could be given a try at least.
Awsome race!! I just hope rockstar puts this on consoles!!👍👍👍
This is one of the best things to come to GTAO yet. Hopefully R* sees the light on this one.
With all of the random things exploding and aircraft flying around, this is a hell of a lot more chaotic than the usual experience on this track!
"There's a gentlemen's agreement not to respawn." Immediately respawns.
Vanilla GTA Random All Unholy Trinity Faggio, Faggio Sport, Faggio Mod
Or dozer, lawnmower and BMX bicycle
I'm so mad that the jet flying around the map that kept flying through the strike zone wasn't hit a single time by any cars.
I cannot wait for these random checkpoints to come to creator on console ! I just hope they will have fixed the possibility of getting duplicates in a race ........
Watching this I realized how much we take the engine sounds for granted in Project Homecoming. I swear everything sounded like an electric in this one.
Most vanilla car engine sounds on PH are unaltered, and most of the modded cars use vanilla sounds
Some of the weirdness comes from the hud, or lack there of
And the annoying smoke when you change
But it's kinda cool still!!!
That actually was pretty good. Now if they just let everyone use it.
I would like to see this race but with custom vehicles enabled - even if its just a one off to see what its like.
It also adds to the randomness of a random all because you cant own a lot of these vehicles and so the number of custom vs stock vehicles would also them be random for each player
Convent. Wimple. Rosary.
Known nun-nouns.
19:39 The Ban Hammer is about to get some action 😉
Cautiously optimistic with these new races. Along with the smokey transform checkpoint effect, I wish the checkpoint parp sound could be disabled, it's such an annoying noise when you notice it.
@Broughy If Rockstar DOES end up making these checkpoints available in regular creator, you'll have to add this into the rotation somewhere in your seasons (I'd vote for once an offseason like this...unless duplicates can be sorted out) AND retest the fastest and slowest stuff to find the Holy and Unholy Trinities! But man, I like the fact that I will finally jump back into GTA again, even it's just to race on this job (and maybe catch the stream Gfred tonight)! If only Rockstar could actually take a lot of the good ideas of GTA V/Online into GTA VI...
True, True random, you'll get duplicates
FINALLLYYY!!! A random all at home!
In addition to this they should add drift races to the creator. Half of the vanilla drift tracks are so unimaginative or plain stupid like beach slap.
What a delight! Sure, we know Rockstar waters down things done better by the community, but a nice treat and it shows that theyre aware, and possibly could implement in gta6! Fun times mate
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5:40 Damn
I think rockstar should make it avalible for everyone aswell as updating them a bit to make duplicates able to be turned off before the race start maybe. It's honestly something I think I'd try and do often to play the game more if I could decently consistantly find enough players for them.
Ah so it involved PC magic. Was wondering about that. Still a nice race!
Hoping that this feature will be implemented in gta creator by Rockstar! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
A random all on the downtown F1 track would be awesome
With the way the new stuff on GTA works you could probably make that fabled RandomFred now.
Wait, if you get a random car on respawn, that means they don't determine the randomness in advance, but during the race. Might not affect the race much, but maybe explains some of their decisions.
It would make things interesting if you could build hybrid races, either with this or PH, where you could do Random Land/Sea/Air checkpoints and build races around those transitions like one of the Rockstar races did in the showcased tracks
It would have to be in Online because PH doesn't have a lot of boats or planes spawnable
@@DiNmiTe fair point - I don't know a lot about the alternative platforms
Maybe there are so many duplicates because each lap it picks a specific class of cars and not from the whole pool so if it picks sports twice you might have the chance to get the same car again but still seems too often even like this so idk
The reason why there was more dupes in this is probably because some vehicles (such as the blazer aqua) exist in multiple classes. I was busy (read: lazy) and just enabled all vehicles apart from planes and helis.
@@floorballl_ oh alright, that makes sense :)
Oh interesting that makes sense actually. There are some duplicate vehicles in classes in transform races (like the turreted limo being in Sedans [normal class] and Weaponised [transform specific class] iirc).
explain my duplicate dozer 😶
@@thunderedt that's just a skill issue
Happy birthday!🎉
I really hope this comes to creator on next gen. I have a PC but im more active on xbox and would love to have it there.
15:50 it's not even the quicker Project Homecoming™ Dozer🥲
Shame this is PC only, because I'd love to have a go at this on PS4, as have been seeing Random All's for years but never took part in any of them.
It's really promising to see R* add these kinds of things. It makes me think there's one or two employees that are fans of your content, so when they get a chance they add in stuff inspired by your community and the mod community in general. If they added the ability to do random races properly, without PC magic they would be doing themselves a massive favor. I would install the game again after 5 years just for that alone. Also if you happen to see this, on Craig's server he added in a really cool random Gfred. Basically after 4 minutes you get a random car, then every consecutive 2 minutes after that you get something else. It was really entertaining to watch, possibly my favorite variation of Gfred so far. This can really help the whole situation of consistent winners, it changes things up massively.
Now we need proper random select for vanilla😅😊
GG
I did an Unknown Unknowns recently with 7 laps I think, and I got the Mk1 Oppressor 4 times
This'll be brought down in a week by Rockstar since it's something fun and not a game breaking glitch or overpowered vehicle/weapon
I've had so many back to back duplicates in the Rockstar created races that I think it must be some kind of bug. The vehicle selection is smaller I suppose, but still seems way too unlikely statistically
16:00 DOUBLE DOZER T-SHIRT!
I wonder if their random choice system uses the same system as the random traffic, where if a car is loaded into memory it will spawn a lot more.
With how few and far between supercars were, considering how many of them there are in gta online. I'm starting to believe the classes are weighted, where some classes have a higher chance of spawning htan others.
Someone defenitely got taken out by a plane on 12:19
Is that a giant Mr Blobby on top of the airport building ?
*Edit* just looks like the tower but looks like a T Pose creation
This is so weird 😂
Does this art of work still exist for you guys on PC?
All that's required for these to exist to non PC players is for Rockstar not to be garbage... so I wouldn't hold my breath people lol
I have played some time of random all races (unkowns unkowns etc) on vanilla gta and duplicates are quite frequent. What is the cause ?
Either it assumes cars available in two or more classes count as multiple entries in the car pool, or they do randomised with replacement
if floorball sees this, how did you get the plane to fly in a continuous loop or the helis to hover? is that a pc magic only thing
question: what are the 3 slowest and 3 fastest car you can get in Rockstar's random races?
probably the Dozer, Lawn Mower and Airtug? or tractor idk if its obtainable
the fastest are probably the boost cars, the Vigilante, Scramjet and Toreador (maybe the RSX or some active spoiler supercars)
-3 slowest = Unvanilla Trinity
-3 fastest = Vanilla Trinity
names can change if I can think of better names....
I think there are no new cars in this. It’s all the cars from a few years back I guess
Tbf the chance of getting something new is much lower than getting something old
I don't remember there ever being a drivable forklift
Been in the game since release, you can drive it in the cayo perico heist for secondary loot, and I tested it 6 years ago: ua-cam.com/video/r70kiYEviFM/v-deo.html
@@broughy1322 well damn
So will there be a console version?
Not right now, potentially if this gets added officially to the creator
So how long is the new dnf timer? You cut back in with like 13 seconds left on the clock and I don't know how many it started with. It would be nice to have a longer timer for all races.
1 minute iirc from the original races we did
It's 1.5 minutes in this race. Doubt that feature will ever make it to the public though.
I was the EVIL like for this video. #666
I don’t play I own almost everything but have no friends
Vanilla Random All
RBS definitely needs a Nerf
Sooner or later it'll be a double Unholy Trinity.
Edit Nevermind.
SO have rockstar released some random races?
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I can't figure out how to add a checkpoint where you transform into a complete random vehicle. Can someone help me on how to do it?
As stated in the video, you can't. This functionality isn't widely available until Rockstar enable it.
@@broughy1322 I guess in excitement I completely missed that part. Cheers for responding. It seems I have to wait and hope they'll enable that feature.
Was there still no option to turn on custom personal vehicles in the datamining?? I am also not a fan using stock vehicles when races would be a lot more high octane with fully upgraded vehicles... I'd be extremely disappointed if the eventual official release of it in the creator doesn't allow us showing off all our own vehicles & have every vehicle fully upgraded regardless of if you own them, just like in Project Homecoming....
Also also, I don't see why these Unknown race modes wouldn't allow custom vehicles when the original Transform Races do allow wherever applicable.
I thought it wasn't available in creator?
It's in the dev creator as explained in the video
How do we find this race on regular GTA? Does it have to be privately hosted?
See the description
random gfred?
Is it possible to run this race on PlayStation 😢
Nope
23:30 denied!
Goes on about how there's no respawning multiple times and then shamelessly respawns 🤦🤦
More like respawns out of instinct, dw chat clowned him for it
I arrive late at this, but did Project Homecoming got a C&D? This means the end? I don't get it.
It's a joke
@@DiNmiTe *phew* hahah thanks
I've always thought that allowing duplicates is a truer form of random all
Random selection with replacement and random selection without replacement are both equally random
Nice nice.
Link in description to bookmark?
Edit: Found it. …. PC only. ….. shame.
Rules for thee but not for me lol eh. No respawn ………….
The intent was to stop people respawning when in a slow car to get a newer faster one. I very much lost out from that respawn, but either way - I simply forgot. Sue me.
When a legacy product keeps making money, why do you need make an effort. And that's the attitude with all mega capitalist ventures, their product sells and why waste money in improving the product. Just wait till GTA 6 comes out and every DLC will cost you.
Off season!
The regular GTA random all's probably get dupes based on some kind of lack in the coding or algorithm. Maybe even because of memory related throttling or chokepoints.
5 dupes in 1 race.
Not a bug at all.
Probably intended given people have said they also got dupes during the official jobs
just because it's different to PH doesn't mean it's a bug. Probably just flawed randomisation
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benis
do we still do I'm first comments?
it doesnt matter if they would make it available... hackers would ruin my experience anyways.
GTAO Random All is far less interesting to watch due to no information about other players' positions, and lack of vehicles (in quantity, versions and editions).