I learned my boardslides on a wooden rail, I had made a little 3 foot box out of scrap 2x4s and plywood, I then stacked 4 2x4s on top of eachother. This video just reminded me of a fundamental memory thank you braille
Can I just say I love that you guys are flipping the script a little. Your greatest content is educational, funny and looks ridiculously fun. Like having skateboarding dreams from childhood recreated on UA-cam.
I’m a carpenter and I love watching you work, Gabe. Check out a reasonable flux core welder and move into some steel for these things. Nigel cracks me up…😂😂😂!
@@LordBelakor, I would consider a nice length of oak or maple but it gets pricey. It looks like Gabe used round handrail for the surface and that’s likely pine. It seems to have worked great except for the 2X foot that came loose. A few tweaks and I bet it would last a long time!
I do both metal fab and carpentry I don't think a welder would be worth it for them since it's so easy to just buy an already built steel rail. It would open up a lot more options though. It's pricey, but it would've been cool if they bought an oak hand rail to use.
Add some 90º wedges to the legs for lateral support. Get screws that are about an inch longer, and maybe add a rubber non slip pad of some type on bottom to prevent sliding
Not one to leave a comment, but real recognize real!! Just paused at 4:41, this thing looks sweet!! Love the channel, love all y’all!! Sweet build Gabe!!
Sick job Gabe. Idea 1) Dip the screws in wood glue while constructing it, and try a wooden railing with thick varnish or epoxy coating. Content Idea: make a grind rail using pvc pipes. They come in many thicknesses and I'm sure with your skills, You can make it happen.
Hey Gabe, try a half lap joint for the feet and put the screws in from the side, might help it last longer. I love doing board slides and that looks like a ton of fun!
Pretty sure we all already knew this. But Gabe is a GENIUS! Amazing build my man. Really enjoyed this video 👏🏾. Now let's get a longer version of this wooden rail going 😂
that was awesome to watch. as a kid my dad made me a rail just with a 2X4 and it worked really well just like this. jumping into 5050 stuck just like yours but a roll on 5050 was doable. I bet you guys could get it on this
My friend in my teen years made a wooden rail by gluing two long pieces of wood together. He told me that his friend did a 50-50 and that the trucks completely stuck on the rail. Because of this, he fell completely forward and his face slammed on the rail, which caused it to turn red according to my friend. They laughed it off too from what I remember my friend said. I know nothing about woodworking, but it seems like a wood rail is feasible for grinds only if the wood is that glossy slippery kind with a finish on it or something to stop the trucks from sticking. It seems the wood would have to be hard and sturdy wood too so the trucks would not dig in to the rail and so it would not chip. I have no idea how easy or possible that is to make, especially on a large scale. At any rate, I enjoyed watching and hope to see more interesting creations from the "Braille Laboratory".
Gave make the middle support like a half inch smaller then the end ones maybe more or less depending the spot it’s sitting I like to help ur really doing better n better gabe!
Adding some rubber to the bottom of the legs would help with it moving around. also use 4x4s for the legs so they are solid and use lag bolts instead of screws. Another idea could be to get big enough pvc or abs cut it long ways and cap it. The best thing would be to get a piece of channel to cover it for doing grinds instead of slides.
Version 2.0 I suggest you use a hardwood 4x4 fence post for the legs as well as the rail portion. You will want to actually shape the top of the 4x4 but leave the bottom flat so it can attach to the legs of course. And some 2x4 or 1x4 stabilizers for the legs of course. Then you have to actually sand the top of the rail down properly (going from lower grit to higher grit) and then put some sealant on it and then polish it with furniture polish. You might even be able to get a light-footed grind on the trucks with that.
This is a perfect idea for beginners. It's easy to build, low-cost materials, and if they find out skateboarding just ain't for them, they're not. stuck trying to resale an $800 rail. I'd say Gabe killed it on this one! 🤘💙b💙🤘
I made a wooden rail with some right-angled iron bars screwed into the top to make it grind and slide like a square rail, because I didn't have the tools to make a metal one. Worked like a charm!
Future woodworking advice: Rip cuts (cutting along the grain) are best done with a table saw and crosscuts (cutting through the grain) is best done with a miter saw. This is a lesson I learned well into my woodworking hobby when I had a chunk of wood from a table saw thump me right in the sternum because I was tying to freehand a crosscut...way scarier than a popsicle from a heelflip imo hahah
Reminds me of the old skate parks with the wooden rails and pvc cope. When I was 14, our park only had wooden rails and all wood ramps in a parking lot of an old grocery store.
just had an idea maybe you can use recycled soda cans to line the railyou can screw them in on the underside.. may be alot of work but its a super budget grind rail
Skateboarding has always been about DIY and using whatever materials you have available. I had a wood rail in my garage in the ‘90s. Worked fine for slides and stalls, not so much for grinds.
As a kid a buying metal rail was too expensive and I had no clue how to work with metal to build my own so we made rails similar to this. Basically a long 2x4 for the main part with short 2x4s drilled perpendicular to the bottom so it wouldn’t tip. Then for the rail we used PVC. Drilled holes every 2-3 feet in the top of the pvc and then screwed that onto the 2x4. Worked great for grinds with inline skates and decent for skateboard slides. Grinds on a skateboard not so much. You’d catch on the holes in the PVC or sometimes just explode the PVC altogether. Haha.
You should put some risers. Grip, rubber, pads, or something under the raill to help it from sliding or moving on the floor, but the build is fumominal
ALL SERIOUSNESS GET HARD WOOD DOWLS OR EXOTIC WOOD ITS SUPER HARD AND HAS NATURAL OILS WITHIN Hickory, maple, red oak, ebony You may be able to grind ebony
I think if you grind the trucks up and down the wooden rails with your hands with pressure, it'll compress the wood and I feel the wood will only compress so much. So once it's compressed grinding across it might be better, it might not dig in as much.
Wooden rail is fully OK.. you just NEED metal on top. Either a metal tube cut in half, or U-Channel metal attached somehow (side bolts). Just trying to slide on wood will work for a day (add wax). Ain't gonna hold up without metal on the top grinding bar though. Check this out... very stable metal rail, but on top 2 of those wooden bars that seem so slippery. Will need to be replaced often, but they're cheap.
We build a small ramp with a wooden supposed grind rail off it when we were children, probably around 1991? I don't know. I don't remember it working well, although it was no worse than trying to grind and slide British curbs which, if you grew up without a skate park like most of us in the UK back then. In fact, the skate parks manual pads and such offer almost no resistance and it's difficult for me to make the transition for some tricks.
What if you do the same concept but have a little gap between the two wooden rails instead of having them touch, to give more room for the kingpin? Though you might need slightly thinner rails so it's not too wide for the trucks.
Angle braces are your friend. And the reason it butters up so nice is because the wood grain can soak up the wax whereas with metal, you just get a topcoat.
I noticed the rail spins on the floor. This might be one for Ricky: start board slide, the rail is rotated 180 degrees, slide off rail, roll out to where you started.
Hmmm, I suggested the "don't break the" tournament with a bunch of identical cheap decks (still waiting on that, hint hint 🤣) but what about a "don't break the" video where it's the obstacle what you are trying not to break? A flimsy ramp could work (maybe every round remove a rib from the frame) but a wooden rail would lend itself quite well to the idea as the more you grind it, the more damage it 'wood' (ha!) receive, like build it with supports on the ends and maybe one in the middle so there are plenty of unsupported spans that could eventually snap. You wood (I'll stop 🤣) have to get the diameter of the wood for the rail just right so it's strong enough to skate, but thin enough that with some damage eventually it would break...
There's a species of wood that's supposedly the hardest and densest, Lignum Vitae. There's also a treatment that can be done to densify existing timber that involves chemical treatments along with high pressure compression. So in theory, you can make a wooden rail that's stronger than steel ones. I hope someone from the fanbase has access to these methods and materials, eventually making a rail that will absolutely survive your guys' tests. It also needs to be said that the legs need some more support to prevent it from falling apart. As for the actual rail, it might need to be thicker to support more weight. I also saw a comment about treating the wood with heat and wax to give it a smoother feel.
Lignum Vitae so dense it doesn't usually float. But you got there first! Boxwood also is fairly tough I thought? Although that might be in the end grain rather than longitudinal strength?
A friend had one like that but with 2 pieces of pvc pipe instead and I learned a lot of early grinds and slides on that thing. No skateparks so we had to make stuff 🤷♂️
In the 90s everyone made wooden rails, and then one day it happened, someone's dad welded up a metal one and it was glorious, and eventually someone steal it for snowboarding...
Being a broke skater my first rail was made from round wood fenceposts and 2x4s it taught me board slides….. so this hits home…. I also used literally bar soap for wax
it could be a lot smoother. use a bees wax or linseed oil finish and let it cure before you add your skate wax. also i'd suggest using a harder wood like at least red/white oak.
Gabe and team… Don’t you know any Old School skater??? I mean, really old school… like 80’s skater. That’s how we started (actually discovering) rail slides!!! With wood and no wax!!! Hahahaha. Kudos for your great work guys!!!
I learned my boardslides on a wooden rail, I had made a little 3 foot box out of scrap 2x4s and plywood, I then stacked 4 2x4s on top of eachother. This video just reminded me of a fundamental memory thank you braille
Wow awesome! Keep skating 🔥
Metal skateboard VS wooden rail would be dope. Reverse them roles!
Yes!
This 👌
I'm pretty sure the metal board would dig into the wood like crazy. Probably wouldn't even slide
@@mr-mac85Only one way to find out
Cool
My 7 year old daughter screaming, “Bodied” from the backseat when Glo goes down is a highlight of my day. She passes the vibe check
Reading that highlighted my day🤘
Lol, I said finish him!
Can I just say I love that you guys are flipping the script a little. Your greatest content is educational, funny and looks ridiculously fun. Like having skateboarding dreams from childhood recreated on UA-cam.
Thanks so much
Nigel’s energy is great, all you guys have dope energy
Thank you
Great video guys, loved the energy. & loved the great build Gabe. Nice shreddin’ boys.
Glad you enjoyed!
I’m a carpenter and I love watching you work, Gabe. Check out a reasonable flux core welder and move into some steel for these things. Nigel cracks me up…😂😂😂!
@@LordBelakor, I would consider a nice length of oak or maple but it gets pricey. It looks like Gabe used round handrail for the surface and that’s likely pine. It seems to have worked great except for the 2X foot that came loose. A few tweaks and I bet it would last a long time!
I do both metal fab and carpentry I don't think a welder would be worth it for them since it's so easy to just buy an already built steel rail. It would open up a lot more options though. It's pricey, but it would've been cool if they bought an oak hand rail to use.
Great start to my day...thanks Braille...😂😂 amazing skating and tons of laughs
Glad you enjoyed it!
Add some 90º wedges to the legs for lateral support. Get screws that are about an inch longer, and maybe add a rubber non slip pad of some type on bottom to prevent sliding
My exact thoughts
HUGE success!!
So proud of you Gabe!
You guys never disappoint, what a fun vid, nice work Gabe!!! That rail is fire!🔥
Glad you liked it!!
The pure joy and hype was felt! Congrats
Thanks
Not one to leave a comment, but real recognize real!! Just paused at 4:41, this thing looks sweet!! Love the channel, love all y’all!! Sweet build Gabe!!
Y'all killed it in this episode. So rad
Sick job Gabe. Idea 1) Dip the screws in wood glue while constructing it, and try a wooden railing with thick varnish or epoxy coating.
Content Idea: make a grind rail using pvc pipes. They come in many thicknesses and I'm sure with your skills, You can make it happen.
Cool ideas!
Ok lets roll this
Yall need to try with some of them legendary walmart plastic trucks. Wax trucks and wood rail and bet ricky can get it to work
Also put brace bar from bottom of rail to thel leg at slanted angle
Indeed
I love the making process! Gabe is a madman !
Hey Gabe, try a half lap joint for the feet and put the screws in from the side, might help it last longer. I love doing board slides and that looks like a ton of fun!
Ok
Pretty sure we all already knew this. But Gabe is a GENIUS! Amazing build my man. Really enjoyed this video 👏🏾. Now let's get a longer version of this wooden rail going 😂
Boardsliding that would be a lot of fun maybe using a Santa Cruz ever-slick hm🤔
Love Glo. Love Nigel. Love Gabe. Love Derek, love the build. Love braille ❤💯
Love you too
that was awesome to watch. as a kid my dad made me a rail just with a 2X4 and it worked really well just like this. jumping into 5050 stuck just like yours but a roll on 5050 was doable. I bet you guys could get it on this
Sick!
gabe - you gotta reinforce with wood glue, also have the screws coming in from both directions for added strength. nice build!
Oh wow
Braille is so dope!
Thanks
My friend in my teen years made a wooden rail by gluing two long pieces of wood together. He told me that his friend did a 50-50 and that the trucks completely stuck on the rail. Because of this, he fell completely forward and his face slammed on the rail, which caused it to turn red according to my friend. They laughed it off too from what I remember my friend said.
I know nothing about woodworking, but it seems like a wood rail is feasible for grinds only if the wood is that glossy slippery kind with a finish on it or something to stop the trucks from sticking. It seems the wood would have to be hard and sturdy wood too so the trucks would not dig in to the rail and so it would not chip. I have no idea how easy or possible that is to make, especially on a large scale.
At any rate, I enjoyed watching and hope to see more interesting creations from the "Braille Laboratory".
Thanks so much ❤️
Gave make the middle support like a half inch smaller then the end ones maybe more or less depending the spot it’s sitting I like to help ur really doing better n better gabe!
Thanks!
Adding some rubber to the bottom of the legs would help with it moving around. also use 4x4s for the legs so they are solid and use lag bolts instead of screws. Another idea could be to get big enough pvc or abs cut it long ways and cap it. The best thing would be to get a piece of channel to cover it for doing grinds instead of slides.
Love it
I believe in you; your idea's are ingenious Gabe
Version 2.0 I suggest you use a hardwood 4x4 fence post for the legs as well as the rail portion. You will want to actually shape the top of the 4x4 but leave the bottom flat so it can attach to the legs of course. And some 2x4 or 1x4 stabilizers for the legs of course. Then you have to actually sand the top of the rail down properly (going from lower grit to higher grit) and then put some sealant on it and then polish it with furniture polish. You might even be able to get a light-footed grind on the trucks with that.
Now we definitely need a version 2.0
Use a heat gun to heat up the wood so the wax soaks into the wood , don’t burn the wood with the heat gun .
and use some type of wood thats actually known for being super hard, google it!
The dont burn the wood reminder is hilarious
@@eloerch7 What? It's a very important tip! You never ever _EVER_ want to burn your wood. 😏
@@unnamed715 You gotta torch the wood to get that nice char pattern on it.
@@xfreedombuckO5x diamond grind 🤣
This is a perfect idea for beginners. It's easy to build, low-cost materials, and if they find out skateboarding just ain't for them, they're not. stuck trying to resale an $800 rail.
I'd say Gabe killed it on this one!
🤘💙b💙🤘
Fantastic editing in this one guys! When wooden rail's obituary from 10 am -11 am came on the screen, I almost died. 😅😂🤣
I made a wooden rail with some right-angled iron bars screwed into the top to make it grind and slide like a square rail, because I didn't have the tools to make a metal one. Worked like a charm!
Love it
Great video! Looked fun.
It was!
I gotta speak for all of us when I say Ricky needs to see this as well jd, and every other braille crew members! I think mogley would luv it
We will build version 2.0 when they are back in town!
With a little support on the legs that rail would be perfect. Def need a wood rail 2.0 vid next
Future woodworking advice: Rip cuts (cutting along the grain) are best done with a table saw and crosscuts (cutting through the grain) is best done with a miter saw. This is a lesson I learned well into my woodworking hobby when I had a chunk of wood from a table saw thump me right in the sternum because I was tying to freehand a crosscut...way scarier than a popsicle from a heelflip imo hahah
Lost me hahaha
It depends on the blade, not the saw. There are rip and crosscut blades available in every size. Also combination blades.
Okay, with out continuing the video I already love the idea!
Yay! Thank you!
Reminds me of the old skate parks with the wooden rails and pvc cope. When I was 14, our park only had wooden rails and all wood ramps in a parking lot of an old grocery store.
Sounds fun
Use 4x4 uprights and T straps to help secure the 2x4 bottoms to the 4x4s as well as screws through the bottom for extra strength.
Ok
That build was wild. Love seeing Glo and Nigel back at it too
Thanks!
I had one of these. Made it myself. Speed and wax and shifting your weight back will allow for grinds on the trucks.
just had an idea maybe you can use recycled soda cans to line the railyou can screw them in on the underside.. may be alot of work but its a super budget grind rail
Yes
Skateboarding has always been about DIY and using whatever materials you have available. I had a wood rail in my garage in the ‘90s. Worked fine for slides and stalls, not so much for grinds.
As a kid a buying metal rail was too expensive and I had no clue how to work with metal to build my own so we made rails similar to this. Basically a long 2x4 for the main part with short 2x4s drilled perpendicular to the bottom so it wouldn’t tip. Then for the rail we used PVC. Drilled holes every 2-3 feet in the top of the pvc and then screwed that onto the 2x4. Worked great for grinds with inline skates and decent for skateboard slides. Grinds on a skateboard not so much. You’d catch on the holes in the PVC or sometimes just explode the PVC altogether. Haha.
You could also cut a piece to slide on top of the rail that you can replace or get a metal rail and fit a wood beam on top of it
Day idk of asking Braille to bring back skate roulette. That was fun.
When I started skateboarding, my friends and I made 2x2 wooden rails, there was no money for iron and we only had sticks, a saw and nails.
they should make a nailhead rail
You could find a nice hardwood stair railing, do a few coats of varnish, that would slide nice!
For inline most people build rails with ABS plastic pipe. I think Keen ramps have also done a video on it. You guys could try those
Yes
PVC not ABS.
glo was so close to being the first dude to sack a wooden rail
Hahaha
Nigel is back 🎉 🎉🎉 always a great one when he is in the video
think these videos are old
They are
Lol definitely old
@@NigelJonesTv thanks for clearing that up bro 👊🏻 your one heck of a skater
You should put some risers. Grip, rubber, pads, or something under the raill to help it from sliding or moving on the floor, but the build is fumominal
Truth
ALL SERIOUSNESS GET HARD WOOD DOWLS OR EXOTIC WOOD ITS SUPER HARD AND HAS NATURAL OILS WITHIN
Hickory, maple, red oak, ebony
You may be able to grind ebony
Hmmm ok!
I think if you grind the trucks up and down the wooden rails with your hands with pressure, it'll compress the wood and I feel the wood will only compress so much. So once it's compressed grinding across it might be better, it might not dig in as much.
Triangle pieces of wood to support the base and the rail will be for "wooden rail" 2.0!!
Thanks for the tips!
Shoutss to the editing in this vid its great
Great idea. For rollerblading you make them with PVC piping, and it slides like butter, zero friction. The trucks would destroy it though.
Sounds rad
Wooden rail is fully OK.. you just NEED metal on top. Either a metal tube cut in half, or U-Channel metal attached somehow (side bolts).
Just trying to slide on wood will work for a day (add wax). Ain't gonna hold up without metal on the top grinding bar though.
Check this out... very stable metal rail, but on top 2 of those wooden bars that seem so slippery.
Will need to be replaced often, but they're cheap.
Great point!
Solid rail Gabe! Maybe put some non-slip pads on the feet? Looking forward to the next vid! :)
Good idea!!
Glad the boys are back with 🔥
This was sick! Version 2 needs to be longer and have a foot of rail past each end leg like Glo said and then it’s pretty much perfect!
With more time it will work really well. Quality wood and pegs instead of screws; sand the grind surface with fine grit till its smooth as glass.
Ok
The plastic solid deck boards work great for grinds and slides. Im assuming gabes using soft wood and the trucks will just bite into the wood
Oh like Trex decking?
We build a small ramp with a wooden supposed grind rail off it when we were children, probably around 1991? I don't know. I don't remember it working well, although it was no worse than trying to grind and slide British curbs which, if you grew up without a skate park like most of us in the UK back then. In fact, the skate parks manual pads and such offer almost no resistance and it's difficult for me to make the transition for some tricks.
Rad
What if you do the same concept but have a little gap between the two wooden rails instead of having them touch, to give more room for the kingpin? Though you might need slightly thinner rails so it's not too wide for the trucks.
Good idea
Angle braces are your friend. And the reason it butters up so nice is because the wood grain can soak up the wax whereas with metal, you just get a topcoat.
Nice
I noticed the rail spins on the floor. This might be one for Ricky: start board slide, the rail is rotated 180 degrees, slide off rail, roll out to where you started.
Oh we tried that haha. Check for the spinning rail video
sick video, I see you with the new filming style and the bgm
we used to use old railroad ties and screw angle iron on it
Right On!!! Those blue prints were on point.
The diet is working Gabe, I see you! 👍💪
You already know!
Hmmm, I suggested the "don't break the" tournament with a bunch of identical cheap decks (still waiting on that, hint hint 🤣) but what about a "don't break the" video where it's the obstacle what you are trying not to break? A flimsy ramp could work (maybe every round remove a rib from the frame) but a wooden rail would lend itself quite well to the idea as the more you grind it, the more damage it 'wood' (ha!) receive, like build it with supports on the ends and maybe one in the middle so there are plenty of unsupported spans that could eventually snap. You wood (I'll stop 🤣) have to get the diameter of the wood for the rail just right so it's strong enough to skate, but thin enough that with some damage eventually it would break...
Love it
Gabe ..add some triangular bracing to your vertical supports and feet and you will be g2g 🔥
Ok
There's a species of wood that's supposedly the hardest and densest, Lignum Vitae. There's also a treatment that can be done to densify existing timber that involves chemical treatments along with high pressure compression. So in theory, you can make a wooden rail that's stronger than steel ones. I hope someone from the fanbase has access to these methods and materials, eventually making a rail that will absolutely survive your guys' tests.
It also needs to be said that the legs need some more support to prevent it from falling apart. As for the actual rail, it might need to be thicker to support more weight. I also saw a comment about treating the wood with heat and wax to give it a smoother feel.
Lignum Vitae so dense it doesn't usually float.
But you got there first! Boxwood also is fairly tough I thought? Although that might be in the end grain rather than longitudinal strength?
why bother when a metal rail would be easier, cheaper and better
@@harryramsbottom1385
For the design challenge. Making improbable materials work.
Ligma wood lol
We love you too !!!❤❤
4:58 that bit got me you have to use this joke more 😂😂😂
A friend had one like that but with 2 pieces of pvc pipe instead and I learned a lot of early grinds and slides on that thing. No skateparks so we had to make stuff 🤷♂️
Very cool!
Gabe is super funny 😂❤
Agreed
Big thanks to whoever did the audio in this one. Love the compression as I have hearing issues.
Our pleasure!
Another awesome video.
Thanks so much!
Drill pilot holes @45° from the sides, and screw down into the footing. Have Danny supervise..
Yes we need Danny hahaha
In the 90s everyone made wooden rails, and then one day it happened, someone's dad welded up a metal one and it was glorious, and eventually someone steal it for snowboarding...
Yes hahaaha
You should try this again with a piece of Oak railing (much harder than the wood you used here) and see if you can get some truck grinds in
YOOOO!! PLEASE MAKE LONGER ONES AND PLAY A GAME OF 'SKATE' ON IT!!!
Ok hahaha
Make one out of iron wood. It's used in like escrima fights for batons and stuff. It can really take a beating
Epic
Wood and wood... What a match 😊
Haha
Some non slip rubber pieces under the feet would maybe keep it from sliding sideways.. but totally awesome!
what length screws did you use? try 3-3.5 inch screws might fix that problem
Not sure actually
Use truss brackets/bracers next time and wood glue and harder wood, take a day or two to build it and make sure it's solid dry etc.
Flat pack, self assembly, Gabe rails coming to the Braille shop soon!
Some sandpaper and a little wood glue goes a long way, probably help the feet a little, this is a sick build regardless tho!!
8:22 can we say he had a glow up on this wood rail 😂
Yes hahahaha
Maybe use metal paint on one wooden rain and foil on another wooden rail and see what makes it more like a metal rail?
Love it hahaha
Could prob use some metal sheet on the rail or some angle iron or something
I made one of these and then added copping on the edges and it worked great
Being a broke skater my first rail was made from round wood fenceposts and 2x4s it taught me board slides….. so this hits home…. I also used literally bar soap for wax
Awesome
it could be a lot smoother. use a bees wax or linseed oil finish and let it cure before you add your skate wax. also i'd suggest using a harder wood like at least red/white oak.
That wooden flat bar is sick I wonder if you could make a kinked one
Word
I'd love to see another one! Maybe bigger screws and more weight somehow. Then use a metal board!
Gabe and team… Don’t you know any Old School skater??? I mean, really old school… like 80’s skater. That’s how we started (actually discovering) rail slides!!! With wood and no wax!!! Hahahaha. Kudos for your great work guys!!!