I watched a smurf get 50 kills in Herald... then lose!?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In this video from Jenkins stream, he watches a smurf get 50 kills against Heralds ... then lose... somehow?
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To be fair, do you want to win as a Smurf? Winning makes you one step closer to not being a Smurf.
5Head
Ok, mindblown
Is this the Swiss cheese hole conundrum again?
If u have one account (main) and u open another (smurf) to go undercover or to try things, whatever, it will always be a smurf account, no matter how high it ranks, the “smurf” concept has nothing to do with the account level, but the fact that is a second “incognito” account
The mindset of a smurf who plays against much weaker opponents is already messed up. Imagine a boxer going "today, I will fight against an 8-year-old, because I'm so pathetic I would rather win an unfair fight than even attempt a fair one".
3:35 poor lich was probably looking at the action and wanted to tp right after the buyback, but he has that option enabled where your camera goes back to base when you respawn...
Excited to see this game in the next episode of BSJ's "Educational Smurfing" series
Plot Twist: It IS BSJ but he lost to a bunch of Heralds XD.
@@ivy6087 yeah… that’s the joke
What is the running bsj joke lol, can someone explain it to me
It feels good to see a smurf lose 😊
They want to loose most of the time. Otherwise it won't be a smurf anymore.
they dc which makes it even more fucked
are you sure the dire team doesn’t have a smurf though? :)
yeah
Think this guy realized that he can stay there forever if he doesnt win. He just relentlessly stomps the noobs but never pushes.
I play as a support in similar scenarios like this one where one guy is super buffed. I feels weird to lose but I understand that sometimes people get overconfident and don't have buy back. And like Jenkins said doesn't matter if you are way up in net worth if you are not present.
Literally happened to me just hours before the video got uploaded. Team had a great start with BS carry and we lost coz they decided to go after one more kill with aegis and threw high ground push. We lost any chance to win the game after that
It's also because Void spirit cannot win game only by himself, needs good allies to push.
it happens a lot to tinker I've noticed, cos he can't hit towers and can suck all the money out of their team, so you can win 90% of the fights and still lose. Carry Luna is the opposite, win one fight and their base is gone.
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
This happens all too often in Herald. You have one guy just running around constantly killing people, never playing with the team and never pushing objectives. Then blames the team when they lose because they think they’re good because they got so many kills.
See it all the time in Ancient aswell. Always midlane, only use chat after they die. Diving t3s at 15min and blaming supports for not warding enough. Its lovely
You should probably play with the guy getting the kills then lol
@@mateoheredia5737 the thing is. Most of the time…they get kills right in front of the tower, then immediately walk away to go jungle or find another kill. Then I’m left as a pathetic Lion or something trying to take down a tower by myself.
And all the meanwhile, I’m just begging them to take the effing towers because we may be up 20 kills, but we have no towers down and they have all of our tier 1’s.
@@shanemooon Then the issue is your carry then. If he has all the space, resource, information in the world and instead of pressuring towers he hit neutral then he shouldn't be playing carry. And if your mid leave the lane for you, you should be working toward your blink (if you play Lion, that'd solve the mobility limitation) and join him later.
@@nguyenvan9445 yeah. That was the original point I made lol.
you know unironically, watching this guy helped me realize the reason of my current lossing streak , playing as an offlane, i have been iniciating plays were i could get out, but my team was unable to do so , and that why we were lossing, and i was like "man im top net worth carrying the game yet we still loose" but ya i realize i was taking bad fights and then getting out of them.
Mostly I laugh during herald replays, but this one had very nice fights.
As you can see this match is from sea or china server. Herald in that server is probably crusader in NA or EU. Most people in sea played dota 1. NA's herald are like really bad compared to asian's server herald.
@@jokerexorcist3658 That is why psg.lgd had won 2 ints in a row, i see. Seems like asians are really superior amarite my fellow Europeans?
8:41 that is why I hate smurfs. Not because they are "pulling me off", or as I can't go up on mmr, it's because idiot people always flame you for losing to them, and it makes the game itself and the comms very uncomfortable
Ye Void spirit made the enemy team hate on their ember, while also lost the game for his team, sure Void spirit doesn't care about gaining MMR, but I'm sure his team does.
If your lane is hard, especially mid. Just say it - Void spirit is smurf, i need help. Keep repeating that until your team understands the situation.
@@kenlimfornication Just cause I'm losing a lane doesn't mean I can immediately determine the opponent is a smurf
@@shahmeerzaid287 21/10 vs 4/0 if you still not aware that guy is a smurf, then youlre probably and acc buyer.
to be fair VS can do better than ES 1v1 mid.
Smurfs are pathetic. They ruin the gameplay for others trying to enjoy in the lower brackets while trying to feed their egos. They deserve to lose always in ranked. They can go play in unranked and wreak havoc there but don't f*ck shit up in ranked. You're not helping Valve gain or retain new players with that stupidity.
i mean i don't think they care about game gaining new players or anything at all.
@@kk7324 They don't, yeah. My take is that they can go and enjoy in unranked matches. Anything goes there. If it's ranked, you get matched up against others that have the same skill level as you. That's the whole point of the system. My gripe with Valve is that they're too lenient with smurfing. If they really want to rake in more $$$ and inject new blood into the game, be strict. Overwatch can only work to a certain extent.
Dude, believe me or not, i played against an SF smurf. Granted im 3.5k but there are a lot of buyers smurfs and boosters in 3.5k SEA. I played against this SF and looking at his profile, like less than 200 games and already 3.5k and my mid already crying at 2 mins coz he knew SF was too good. Around 3 mins sf dc and never came back. We thought he was banned or something, and what you know, next day i visited the profile and saw VAC banned. Idk if he was cheating or from massive reports and stuff, but getting banned mid game happens in dota guys. Never forget to report right away
The fact that many people will say yes to this as 3k or 4k MMR players but still go to 1k MMR to relieve some stress really makes school bullies lovable
I only play normal game on my smurf but people get really mad. I remember one game where I played Faceless Void and built meme hammer and went split push while my team struggled. The enemies were calling me and one other guy who was smurf the entire game and I mean I understand that its not fun for them but if I wanna play with my new friends then I care more about them not going against too high rank than I care about the noobs I stomp. Plus its fun to smurf in normals, like in that void game I finished with gleipnir and refresher, catch them with gleip and then 2xchrono + 2xmeme hammer. Good times
The best part in this replay is that I only noticed there was a Chaos Knight in the last minute of the video lol
The Smurf forget Dota is team game ,dude sacrificing his team on bad spot only for him to solo kill all
He must be on a losing streak in his bracket for him to go smurf in a herald game
i have experienced something similar like this when mmr was the thing, but with a toxic dire pos 1 juggernaut as the smurf that lost the game, i was the radiant mid ember spirit in that game (lucky coincidence), and after he kept team wiping us he go full toxic in chat and say he will quit dota if he lose this. luckily at that time the whole radiant team doesnt get triggered and just goes silly. what happen is similar to this, we decided to not care about strategy and just straight up gank jugg no matter where he is on the map even if we die and feed in the process. even our radiant tide hunter went straight to bloodthorn instead of something like pipe, jugg kill all 5 of radiant team but we also kill his 4 teammate. this causes jugg to be a lvl 25 six slot beast but his teams are all poor and lvl 18, while all our radiant team are around lvl 20-22 with quite a lot of money from the 4 teammate feeding, because we just roam and fight endlessly the enemy jugg started to lose steam and started dying to us since no matter what he cant solo 1 vs 5 a whole team with enough disabling and damage spells/items, in the end we won after wiping dire team out like 15 times
Noah WUWUNGAN
That was a hard fought battle and i can respect that
I love this for you so much
It happened almost exactly what I thought what would happen. A lot of people smurfing think they can 1v5, but that's pretty much never the case. They go in, get kills, do nothing else and die. The enemies always get an objective after getting a kill, but void just gets another kill after getting a kill.
Or even if they don't think that, smurfs can hurt because the net worth of their team is so high that the enemy team can kill their non smurf teammates and swing the gold advantage all the other way. It's actually disadvantageous to have someone who's such a tall poppy when they're not communicating with the rest of the team.
6k+ smurfs can 1v5 easily specially if their role is mid.
They lose on purpose to keep the smurf's MMR low
@@mateoheredia5737 it really depends on the matchup, it doesn't take a genius to stunlock someone, and no matter your MMR, you are stunned for however long it takes. A true 1v5 is very very rarely possible and only with an insane net worth and level advantage in the early game. Once everyone gets 6 it's just very difficult
@@ShotaroAsakura
Not really losing on purpose but they dont care if they lose…. They just want to kill kill make life miserable for the opposing team… maybe their way of unwinding from the stress of high level ranked matches
As an outsider who doesn't play this game and only watches Jenkins, it looks like Legion Commander is stupid OP in every match.
Very nice video, well edited! I started to watch it realized it could be nice to watch the stream first, so i watched that, and then came back to finish the video.
Thank you Jenkins!
I am pretty sure that smurf did not care about winning.
He/She just wanted to show his/her prowess.
Showing his/her powers in herald bracket 🤣
@@whittewollf3339 It's easy to feed your ego when the enemy team has way lower abilities than you so you can abuse them to show how "powerful" you are
@@whittewollf3339 There are people in this world who can do anything to dominate the weak. Remember that!!!
i watched Jenkins for 4 years now, and his room really had a glow up
Always nice to see a Smurf player get humbled
Lich: That is why you should never have the setting where the camera goes back to your hero when it comes back alive.
Did Jenkins seriously pronounce Kiryu as Kye-ru?
I think the Lich buy back teleport was probably an accident because of the respawn focuses on hero setting.
That seems like an awful setting to have turned on, don't see why you'd ever want that.
@@Colopty I disable it every time I sign into my dota and the settings didn’t save. I hunt that down right after I set my hot keys
How Herald works: Feed = Victory
Destroy = Lose
when the Dota had separate MMR for support role and core role, I met a smurf whose support rank was guardian and core rank was divine and he always queue for support role and wrecked every game and I played against him 3 games in a row it ended up 2-1 with my victory haha
If that was still a thing every high core mmr would play 5 NP every game
If they core instead of supp, ez report
This is a perfect example of it doesn't matter how many kills ou get, you have ot actually use that advantage to push the objective. And it doens't matter how behind you are. you can still win.
that lich TP is the classic option "focus camera on hero on respawn" or some shit, worst option ever LULW
When he pronounced "BigdaddyKiryu" as "Kairyu", just made my brain stopped.
I think this has proved how much Dota is a team game and not a solo game
The smerf be like 'fuck the bots fought back!' xD
If anyone is confused by that 4 min TP from lich. His camera centers on hero on respawn.
That lich bb and tp base had me rolling
3:34 This happened to me sometimes in the past. It's what happens when your camera is panning back automatically to your hero when you respawn.
There is an option in settings for that not to happen :)
@@mateoheredia5737 I know
The thumbnail looked like them starting a cult🤣
That ember getting stunned for like a minute is just so funny
that lich's buyback and 5 meters TP is just killed me XD
Dire during the game: Persevere my brothers, we can win!
Dire about to win the game: GG EZ, report idiot trash team
Ahh yes the absolute anarchy of archon in action
Most people thinks the huge number of frags make u automatically good player but frags means only how many people you kill in current game, you can win game without a single frag (lycan) or lose with 100 frags(tinker)...
3:20 I think that what happens when you have camera to pan over to you on respawn, happened to me too, after that I disabled it, it's so annoying.
3:30
That ''center camera on hero respawn'' should be illegal
I want that "This isn't necessary!" from 1:33 as a voice line
Seeing this kind of games makes me want to play Dota again, but then I remembered I'm alone and I loose interest
I just wanna say, at trash mmr, wraith king, WD and lich vs 5 melee is like the most stacked lineup I've ever seen. Because lich and WD each have the damage to teamwipe, so when everybody walks in WK they just get womboed over and over, taking high ground seems almost impossible at this mmr.
It's one of those ruiners who doesn't care about winning, never takes objectives, just wants to have high GPM and many kills.
Me: *Gladly laughs and proceeds to close the video*
Jenkins : s3Xu4L eNvİoReMeNt
watching this live was real funny, was wondering when it was gonna get uploaded here
If a smurf loses, there's more than 1 smurf or he's pseudo trash.
he was overconfident, he's playing like he's playing with bots, as if his enemies don't learn and adapt or try something new
Some smurfs does this on purpose so they'll stay in lower rank lobbies
This is actually the same herald review you have done before, I didn't notice until that play where he dives base and Dissimilates into aether remnant in the trees, into Euls but then still dies to legion duel.
I remember thinking that play was insane for a herald back when you did a review of this game before, it's funny watching again from a different perspective.
From what perspective was the other video's from? Title or link?
@@adeonnn I recall him watching more from the guy named Tristan's perspective. However, I just looked through literally every video he has posted on this channel and didn't see it.
I have to assume I saw this live on his twitch channel somehow, despite not watching his channel much (conflicting schedules).
If this is the case, it was at least a few weeks ago, so I had time to forget where I saw it maybe
You are right. Mby it was reupload with different title/cover?
2 reasons why the smurf lost. 1) LC + Lich 2) He played like a smurf - if he only played like a herald and had that much gold, he would've bought 3 rapiers.
One of the main reasons they lost, is radiant had no aoe spells, just single target, and dire had 2 big aoe spells and in the long run, that kinda does win you the game
this is pretty much every game i play of dota. i play very little every now and then and you always get insane things like that
some smurf in superlow ranked game intentionaly after having done 100 kill or whatever. those guys often pay a lot to get account that low, so they don't want to go back up to fast.
but on the otherhand, there are people mecanicly competent in this bracket who will be 10 000 networth in front of everybody, but genuinly can't have an impact, and take all teh ressource away from their team.
3:33 this happen when your dota setting got reset. maybe because fresh installing. (center camera at hero on respawn)
That lich tp when he buyback. I knew it. It was because "center camera when player alive" setting is on. (Or whatever it says. U all know what i mean).
Yooooo........
from how he play with trees, timing, fighting approach, item build. I believe hes a fooking divine.
Once when I was playing with a puck, he got atleast 50 kills too while enemy team got atleast 10 kills by the end of the game which puck didn't end the game when puck could've ended it way earlier then lose. Crusader by the way
i like to believe that base TP is because of that put the hero on center thing after you respawn, I used to be irritated with that at first.
it's like watching kids play
so wholesome
finally i have watched all of your vids at least 3 times
Bigdaddykiryu was actually me playing lc....that game was fun cause i won...kekw
In herald the pos 1 compares their kills with pos 5 once they are dead ! XD
aaah the mystical tale of BKB, the item that always eludes them
"He can get out, so he baits his team into bad spots"
And this is the reason peoplr smurf.
Cause if theyd do this stuff in their braked, theyd just die and get flamed.
The void basically just moved all of dire's net worth onto their carry lmao
before i watch the whole video i know it would be a good content just by looking at that title
Yeah...
Meanwhile..
*Valve pretending they didn't see that*
Once I faked diving under ward so enemy will rotate but when I was going back my team dived in thinking I am diving and died.
I love how LC still blame ember for feeding mid😂😂
Dat tp 😂😂😂😂 made my day
Him- if you get 50 kills and still lose, are you really a smurf?
Well if it's 1v1 he is to blame, no matter how far you are gold and money wise, if you have no help, you won't be sure to win.
lich asserting dominance by warding enemy tower was MVP of this game
this enlightens my day
Ey you should go on the double dragon channel! Pyrion and lewis do something very similar to this series, would be great to see you on there or them on here!
The matchmaking is so bad in Dota that you nearly always have a Crusader II or Guardian V in Herald games.
Forget heral in archon and legend brackets i have seen void spirit go 20-5-20 and still lose the game
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT 3:35
Smurfs be like : just for fun!
When will these people learn that Heralds are playing a whole other game? No wonder he lost like dog
I'll never understand why people waste their time smurfing.
this game is cursed when CK put MAN UTD...
smells like void spirit
missing important part, where's midlane at 6:29
These comebacks happen almost every game in herald
I still havent figured out how to submit my own clip
1080p and the facecam is pixely? Is it on my end?
This happened to me in this rank like 4-5 yrs ago ... I was at 1200 mmr got 2-3 rampages with bs still lose ...
And double rampage and 38 kill with wk and still lose.... This rank was shit ...
@Speed he was right about playing WK in Herald, insta win even with smurfs.
in case you forgot, there is a word that pronounce "derank"
Why didn’t Jenkins point out that smurfing necessarily involves intentionally throwing after destroying the game?
He lost to stay in lower bracket to rule them all :D
How is he going to rule them all if he loses? :D I would just laugh at him that he got such score and still loses the game xD
@@whittewollf3339 there are to many players that care more about rampage, kill score, ego lifting than winning the game... Therefore I think that he does not care about him losing cause he will say that he carried the team but will accuse his own team for losing.
Most entertaining dota 2 content type , and creator.
3:34 that tp fail cuz the cam focus to the hero when respawn u can disable that in settings
level 42, I don't think he's a smurf, that's like 800 hours of Dota
I stopped smurfing years ago, the only thing you get in smurfing is to boost your ego you didn't improve your skills in the game at all.
The fun in watching is that we don't know who's going to win
Been there, i once used my friend id 300 mmr (I'm 4.5k) played jug, got 30+ kills, but still lose.
this is why u need to push towers and use your advantage, not just chasing kda
Idk why but when I was still in archon, most of the enemy team ignores me and went straight for the cores... I am shadow shaman most of the times or enigma... best days.