I wish 47brand still made these fitted pro hats. By far one of my most comfortable hats to wear all day. The brim and sweatband are superior compared to 59fifty. In my opinion. Fantastic vids Dre!
Bought one a while ago. I noticed that about the brim bend as well. I love the logo and like how this one doesn’t have the sun behind the elephant. Decent hat for the price point.
Another great video, but I actually have a NewEra question: I recently bought two different minor league team hats in the same size, but I could tell immediately that they fit very differently on my head despite both of them being made in Taiwan. I'm not sure if it's the size of the front design that caused this or if they simply need to be reshaped. Have you had any experience with this? Is this nothing to worry about after shaping the cap, or is this a more serious shaping/quality control issue? Thanks!
I think you've just experienced the normal variation that New Era has in their caps - happens all the time. I am a 7-1/2, but I own more than a few 7-3/8 and 7-5/8 caps - just because those fit better when I tried them on. So I'd say nothing serious, just something us cap fans have to deal with... definitely invest in a hat jack if you need to give them a stretch, thanks.
Yes, they are cool but when I made this they were sort of a dying breed... I think '47 has elected to focus on fitted caps with their Franchise model, which is a stretch fitted in five sizes only. NHL fitted caps are made by Fanatics now, I reviewed one in a separate video, thanks.
I’ve pretty much quit buying new era fitteds now cause the quality has taken a pretty deep decline from the USA days so it would be interesting to check one of these out if I see any at a lids. But I’ve never been a huge fan of acrylic hats, not the most comfortable material and they are on the warmer side for summers.
Since posting this I actually picked up a couple more, and they were actually better than this one - the construction and sweatband in particular are very well done. Thanks for the comments, I agree that the acrylic makes this not a good choice for summer.
I'm a loyal N.E. consumer , have been since the 90s . That being said though I've eyeballed a couple 47 brand hats and can't lie they have some good looking hats . How do you feel about Mitchell and Ness ?
Great question, as I've finally started to look at M&N - don't always see their Fitteds in large numbers or teams, but I've been looking at some of their retro NBA snaps lately. The one thing I've heard repeatedly is that the visors are thick and more difficult to curve if that is your preference. I've actually become a much bigger fan of 47 even since I posted this, the quality of their caps is very good, especially the adjustable 'MVP' style that I've tried lately.
I love your take on this new era products. I heard you talk about adding volume to your hat. I personally use a bump cap from ergodyne it gives me crazy volume. You should think about making a bump cap video, i wish there were more information on them anyway. Thanks for the videos
Hey Doug. Great content as always. I have a question. I measure my head and according to the measurement, I should wear a 7 3/8. Of the rack, it felt ok. The thing is, I always bend my brim and as soon as I did that, the hat suddenly felt too loose. I bought another hat, this time I got a 7 1/4. I bend the brim, and this time it felt a bit too tight. Whats your recommendation ? Are 5950 hat designed to be rather 'loose' or should I get one that fit rather snug. Thanks
First thing to note is that NE Caps have tons of variation from the way they are made - I am a 7-1/2 but own a few 7-3/8 and 7-5/8 caps because they were a better fit at the store. Second, if you curve your visors normally, you've got to account for what it does to the cap shape - I actually looked at that in my video 'Why so much Shrinking?', so I'd suggest going to check that out at my channel. As you've described, it will influence what size caps you buy regularly - thanks.
Finally found a 47 fitted. Really agree with you. They are much better than people think. Have a handful of their snapbacks, but this is my first fitted from them. REALLY wish they would get back into the fitteds. Found the fitted in my local NHL team. Had a few styles for then actually. Unfortunately, none for MLB. I wonder if this is because New Era now has some sort of exclusivity for MLB fitteds? Thanks for your channel Doug!
Good find... they seem to have all but disappeared in most places I look. But I mentioned in another vid that '47 actually makes the single most comfortable Fitted I own - a two-tone Pirates cap. Yes, seems that maybe they can't license current MLB for anything but stretch fitteds (Franchise model) - because '47 has done mostly Cooperstown logos on these recent fitted caps. Thanks!
@@dreinthe616 thanks for the response! I will need to plan a road trip down South for the Cooperstown fitteds! Canada is very limited it seems on all their fitteds unfortunately. Even the Canadian website they have is pathetically limited in selection.
Hey Doug, I was wondering if you’ve ever came across a method or service that allows one to change the undervisor color of a cap. I have some caps with green undervisors that I’d like much more if they were white/light grey.
That would be a great service, I made a recent video about how I would like to see more options with the undervisor. Unfortunately I have never come across a service for that, but thanks for the question.
Anybody know why you can only find the 47Pro fitted hats in person in stores like Lids, but on the official 47 brand website they are nowhere to be found?
I don't know the answer except that 47 sold through these online, and I never saw a restock... maybe demand was low over time and they decided not to make again.
I’ve been eyeing the 47 franchise fitted dad hats. Anyone got any experience with them? New era is losing me with these ridiculous prices and nonstop side patches and god awful collections.
I can’t speak to the fitted 47 hats but I can speak to the quality of the SnapBack and StrapBack dad hats and that they are excellent. Comfortable and quality feeling. Design and style choice surpasses new era as well.
Unfortunately they have stopped making these now... maybe they just gave up on fitted caps of this style. I only ended up getting three of these before they disappeared. Now they only do the stretch-fitted "Franchise" model.
47's crowns are ginourmous on my head, so is NE, but the low profile ones are a great for me... So question, brother... You know if these 47's shrink at all, like the NE caps? Shrinking as in shrinking them with intent.
Yes, they will respond in a similar way to NE caps... wool ones will shrink easier and more than poly. Although 47 does use 15% acrylic in some of their wool caps, thanks.
Hey Kevin, great question... I've got a couple of designs and I might be taking a viewer poll soon on interest in the caps. So I may have some made sometime soon, stay tuned - and thanks!
47 Brand uses plastic substrates inside of their visors (brims) - just covered that whole topic here - ua-cam.com/video/wD2jpl_fNUA/v-deo.html - ICYI, thanks.
Not for me, the material is too thin for me. Every time i sweat, it goes through the cap immediately. I prefer the mitchell and ness snapbacks because of that reason, their material does not show it as fast like the new era caps
Uhm, am I missing something? You say you steamed the visor to get it to bend easier because of the fabric? Isn’t there plastic inside that visor? Plus, I would never buy a 47 brand hat if I was into the flat brimmed new era hats. That is not the type of hat that 47 brand specializes in. They make the best franchise, which is their regular fitted hat, any other brand. Including new era. So, this is like comparing apples to oranges. But, I guess they’re trying to compete in that category. And, from what you said, they’re just a few tweaks behind. Good video. Also, with the 47 brand visors, you have to break them in. You will not bend it once and get it to stay. I buy the franchise fitted 47 brand hats. I like a big curve in my brim. It’s a process. I can tell you this, once you get it to where you like it and it stays, it will stay that way forever. Also, that visor will last forever. The material will fall off it before the shape of the brim changes. That’s one of the things that I love with the 47 brand hats. And, if I’m looking for comfort, those flat brimmed New Era hats are not the ones I’d wear for “comfort.” Those things are about as uncomfortable as a hat can get. But, to each their own. I just found it odd that you were talking about comfort with a hat like that. Try buying a 47 brand cleanup or franchise fitted hat and you will be able to feel the comfort you are missing.
Yes, I think you are missing a few things. This was only a review of 47 Fitted vs. New Era 59Fifty... and if you've seen any other of my videos you would know I have a preference for curving the visor, although that is a personal style choice and some prefer to leave them flat. Steam provides two functions... 1) the heat makes the visor more formable and prevents fatigue from cold bending and 2) the moisture relaxes the fabric, in the same way a tailor or cleaner uses steam to smooth out fabrics. I've done a video on the materials used in major manufacturers' visors ( ua-cam.com/video/wD2jpl_fNUA/v-deo.html ) and yes, 47 Brand uses plastic in their visors, which softens at a higher temperature than the fiber/plastic blend that New Era uses. Also, I don't consider the Franchise or the 39Thirty to be true Fitted caps, because they are stretch-fit construction and I can't buy either one in a dedicated size 7-1/2. I've found that the severe curvature on some visors with those caps actually hurts my temples, and I've had to relax the curves on occasion ( ua-cam.com/video/2l07U7Qb32Q/v-deo.html ) The Cleanup has an unstructured crown, dad cap silhouette, and is not something I've been interested in to date. Last, I think that 59Fifty and other Fitted caps can be quite comfortable, and I did a review of some of the factors involved here - ua-cam.com/video/1vpa5NZ0G_E/v-deo.html As you say, "to each their own," thanks.
@@dreinthe616 It’s funny because I almost explained the whole thing about the Franchise coming in S M L XL, but I didn’t think I needed to, since I believed you would know what I was talking about. They are not a true fitted cap. But, you can get them to become a fitted cap. It just takes a little work. The Clean up is close to being the same hat as the franchise. The material is a little softer, but, in the end, they end up being the same hat after they’re broken in. If you were to check up on the cleanup, you would understand what I am talking about. And, it doesn’t really bother me if it’s a true fitted cap. If it fits me and I like it and it’s fitted (either a stretch fit or a true fitted cap) it’s just fine for me. Like I said, to each their own. Also, I don’t mind bending my visor until it stays. It just takes some time. Maybe a week? Maybe less. I’m just a big fan of the 47 Brand. I haven’t found another brand that comes close for my taste. It’s all about preference and taste. I didn’t even know that the 47 brand made those fitted caps until I saw your video. It’s funny because you actually have to search for them on their website. They do not just pop up with the team that you punch in.
@@tomalafleur8602 From '47, I like the MVP model as an adjustable low silhouette (but structured crown) cap, and it seems they've just about stopped making Fitted caps, apparently to focus on their strengths in dad caps.
@@dreinthe616 I guess they have. What New Era would be the closest to the ‘47 Franchise? I don’t like my hats to be stiff above the team logo. I guess that would be the crown/ top. I’ve looked at a couple, but I’m not sure if they’ll loosen up with wear. I just can’t get away with those types of hats. It makes my head look huge to me. I guess I like a more fitted hat all the way around. Do they make a hat in a stretch fit like the 9twenty?
@@tomalafleur8602 I honestly don't think there is a New Era equivalent to the Franchise. The 39Thirty is their stretch fit cap, but that has a buckram-lined structured crown.
The visor reminds me of a fitted Mitchell & Ness shape and material. Their visor is also very firm and is not easily shaped.
Have not tried one yet, but good to know, thanks for posting.
Do they still make them? I had two of those 17 years or so ago, and remember them being very spacious on top and they sat on my head like pots
I like both brands, new era and 47 are both good both look good and both comfortable
I wish 47brand still made these fitted pro hats. By far one of my most comfortable hats to wear all day. The brim and sweatband are superior compared to 59fifty. In my opinion. Fantastic vids Dre!
Yep, agree - I did a video on fitted cap comfort and one of my absolute top caps is a Pirates Pro Fitted from '47. Thanks!
Bought one a while ago. I noticed that about the brim bend as well. I love the logo and like how this one doesn’t have the sun behind the elephant. Decent hat for the price point.
Another great video, but I actually have a NewEra question:
I recently bought two different minor league team hats in the same size, but I could tell immediately that they fit very differently on my head despite both of them being made in Taiwan. I'm not sure if it's the size of the front design that caused this or if they simply need to be reshaped. Have you had any experience with this? Is this nothing to worry about after shaping the cap, or is this a more serious shaping/quality control issue?
Thanks!
I think you've just experienced the normal variation that New Era has in their caps - happens all the time. I am a 7-1/2, but I own more than a few 7-3/8 and 7-5/8 caps - just because those fit better when I tried them on. So I'd say nothing serious, just something us cap fans have to deal with... definitely invest in a hat jack if you need to give them a stretch, thanks.
dre in the 616 thank you for your input, it’s greatly appreciated!
i have a minor league cap and it fits slightly looser but still nice than my mlb ones, both are haiti made, where did you get made in taiwan ones tho?
Wowsers! ',47 brand fitted hats look better than NE 59/50 hats. Any NHL logo hats ? 😊
Yes, they are cool but when I made this they were sort of a dying breed... I think '47 has elected to focus on fitted caps with their Franchise model, which is a stretch fitted in five sizes only. NHL fitted caps are made by Fanatics now, I reviewed one in a separate video, thanks.
The sweatband in these are really comfortable... wish they made more of these
Agree, I’ve got a couple other ‘47 fitteds and the sweatbands are just about perfect to me.
I’ve pretty much quit buying new era fitteds now cause the quality has taken a pretty deep decline from the USA days so it would be interesting to check one of these out if I see any at a lids. But I’ve never been a huge fan of acrylic hats, not the most comfortable material and they are on the warmer side for summers.
Since posting this I actually picked up a couple more, and they were actually better than this one - the construction and sweatband in particular are very well done. Thanks for the comments, I agree that the acrylic makes this not a good choice for summer.
I'm a loyal N.E. consumer , have been since the 90s . That being said though I've eyeballed a couple 47 brand hats and can't lie they have some good looking hats . How do you feel about Mitchell and Ness ?
Great question, as I've finally started to look at M&N - don't always see their Fitteds in large numbers or teams, but I've been looking at some of their retro NBA snaps lately. The one thing I've heard repeatedly is that the visors are thick and more difficult to curve if that is your preference. I've actually become a much bigger fan of 47 even since I posted this, the quality of their caps is very good, especially the adjustable 'MVP' style that I've tried lately.
I love your take on this new era products. I heard you talk about adding volume to your hat. I personally use a bump cap from ergodyne it gives me crazy volume. You should think about making a bump cap video, i wish there were more information on them anyway. Thanks for the videos
Hey thanks man, I have considered looking at those, so I will check it out.
Interesting video. Not a fan of 47 Brand, but this made a good case for them. Always good info with your videos.
Hey Doug. Great content as always. I have a question. I measure my head and according to the measurement, I should wear a 7 3/8. Of the rack, it felt ok. The thing is, I always bend my brim and as soon as I did that, the hat suddenly felt too loose. I bought another hat, this time I got a 7 1/4. I bend the brim, and this time it felt a bit too tight. Whats your recommendation ? Are 5950 hat designed to be rather 'loose' or should I get one that fit rather snug. Thanks
First thing to note is that NE Caps have tons of variation from the way they are made - I am a 7-1/2 but own a few 7-3/8 and 7-5/8 caps because they were a better fit at the store. Second, if you curve your visors normally, you've got to account for what it does to the cap shape - I actually looked at that in my video 'Why so much Shrinking?', so I'd suggest going to check that out at my channel. As you've described, it will influence what size caps you buy regularly - thanks.
How much larger will a hat stretch? If I purchase a 7 1/2 will it stretch to 7 3/4?
Finally found a 47 fitted. Really agree with you. They are much better than people think. Have a handful of their snapbacks, but this is my first fitted from them. REALLY wish they would get back into the fitteds. Found the fitted in my local NHL team. Had a few styles for then actually. Unfortunately, none for MLB. I wonder if this is because New Era now has some sort of exclusivity for MLB fitteds?
Thanks for your channel Doug!
Good find... they seem to have all but disappeared in most places I look. But I mentioned in another vid that '47 actually makes the single most comfortable Fitted I own - a two-tone Pirates cap. Yes, seems that maybe they can't license current MLB for anything but stretch fitteds (Franchise model) - because '47 has done mostly Cooperstown logos on these recent fitted caps. Thanks!
@@dreinthe616 thanks for the response! I will need to plan a road trip down South for the Cooperstown fitteds! Canada is very limited it seems on all their fitteds unfortunately. Even the Canadian website they have is pathetically limited in selection.
Great video and love that you have an open mind set to more than just New Era. Very informative and very proud of you from the cap community!
Really cool, man - thanks for your support.
Hey Doug, I was wondering if you’ve ever came across a method or service that allows one to change the undervisor color of a cap. I have some caps with green undervisors that I’d like much more if they were white/light grey.
That would be a great service, I made a recent video about how I would like to see more options with the undervisor. Unfortunately I have never come across a service for that, but thanks for the question.
dre in the 616 no problem, thanks for the reply!
Great review, you should review a low profile 59Fifty
Anybody know why you can only find the 47Pro fitted hats in person in stores like Lids, but on the official 47 brand website they are nowhere to be found?
I don't know the answer except that 47 sold through these online, and I never saw a restock... maybe demand was low over time and they decided not to make again.
Didnt expect the hats to look this nice
They've got a bunch of their fitteds on sale for 24 dollars on their site right now
I’ve been eyeing the 47 franchise fitted dad hats. Anyone got any experience with them? New era is losing me with these ridiculous prices and nonstop side patches and god awful collections.
I can’t speak to the fitted 47 hats but I can speak to the quality of the SnapBack and StrapBack dad hats and that they are excellent. Comfortable and quality feeling. Design and style choice surpasses new era as well.
hello I keep watching your video.. can you pls guide me where I can find this 47 BRAND PRO Fitted😊
Unfortunately they have stopped making these now... maybe they just gave up on fitted caps of this style. I only ended up getting three of these before they disappeared. Now they only do the stretch-fitted "Franchise" model.
47's crowns are ginourmous on my head, so is NE, but the low profile ones are a great for me... So question, brother... You know if these 47's shrink at all, like the NE caps? Shrinking as in shrinking them with intent.
Yes, they will respond in a similar way to NE caps... wool ones will shrink easier and more than poly. Although 47 does use 15% acrylic in some of their wool caps, thanks.
Hello, a question, do not you have a social network to ask you for advice, how can I do you with a cap like what you did in the video?
They’re good snapbacks not gonna lie the logo pops on them
Can we buy the Dee 616 caps that you wear in your videos?
Hey Kevin, great question... I've got a couple of designs and I might be taking a viewer poll soon on interest in the caps. So I may have some made sometime soon, stay tuned - and thanks!
Glad I found this channel
It’s soft like the 60’s
What is the 47 brand inner brim made of?
47 Brand uses plastic substrates inside of their visors (brims) - just covered that whole topic here - ua-cam.com/video/wD2jpl_fNUA/v-deo.html - ICYI, thanks.
The 47 Carhartt hats are great
Have not tried one yet, but interested in the full-crown "Captain" models... even if they are not fitted. Thanks for watching!
love the channel doug
Cool, thank you!
New Era is the best so far... Thanks for your videos and thank you for sharing your knowledge 👏🏽
Not for me, the material is too thin for me. Every time i sweat, it goes through the cap immediately.
I prefer the mitchell and ness snapbacks because of that reason, their material does not show it as fast like the new era caps
@@leeeverett4067 Mitchell and Ness is my second favorite of all time and starter brand on 3rd place.
Mitchell and Ness have crazy designs dough...
Uhm, am I missing something? You say you steamed the visor to get it to bend easier because of the fabric? Isn’t there plastic inside that visor? Plus, I would never buy a 47 brand hat if I was into the flat brimmed new era hats. That is not the type of hat that 47 brand specializes in. They make the best franchise, which is their regular fitted hat, any other brand. Including new era. So, this is like comparing apples to oranges. But, I guess they’re trying to compete in that category. And, from what you said, they’re just a few tweaks behind. Good video. Also, with the 47 brand visors, you have to break them in. You will not bend it once and get it to stay. I buy the franchise fitted 47 brand hats. I like a big curve in my brim. It’s a process. I can tell you this, once you get it to where you like it and it stays, it will stay that way forever. Also, that visor will last forever. The material will fall off it before the shape of the brim changes. That’s one of the things that I love with the 47 brand hats. And, if I’m looking for comfort, those flat brimmed New Era hats are not the ones I’d wear for “comfort.” Those things are about as uncomfortable as a hat can get. But, to each their own. I just found it odd that you were talking about comfort with a hat like that. Try buying a 47 brand cleanup or franchise fitted hat and you will be able to feel the comfort you are missing.
Yes, I think you are missing a few things. This was only a review of 47 Fitted vs. New Era 59Fifty... and if you've seen any other of my videos you would know I have a preference for curving the visor, although that is a personal style choice and some prefer to leave them flat. Steam provides two functions... 1) the heat makes the visor more formable and prevents fatigue from cold bending and 2) the moisture relaxes the fabric, in the same way a tailor or cleaner uses steam to smooth out fabrics. I've done a video on the materials used in major manufacturers' visors ( ua-cam.com/video/wD2jpl_fNUA/v-deo.html ) and yes, 47 Brand uses plastic in their visors, which softens at a higher temperature than the fiber/plastic blend that New Era uses. Also, I don't consider the Franchise or the 39Thirty to be true Fitted caps, because they are stretch-fit construction and I can't buy either one in a dedicated size 7-1/2. I've found that the severe curvature on some visors with those caps actually hurts my temples, and I've had to relax the curves on occasion ( ua-cam.com/video/2l07U7Qb32Q/v-deo.html ) The Cleanup has an unstructured crown, dad cap silhouette, and is not something I've been interested in to date. Last, I think that 59Fifty and other Fitted caps can be quite comfortable, and I did a review of some of the factors involved here - ua-cam.com/video/1vpa5NZ0G_E/v-deo.html As you say, "to each their own," thanks.
@@dreinthe616 It’s funny because I almost explained the whole thing about the Franchise coming in S M L XL, but I didn’t think I needed to, since I believed you would know what I was talking about. They are not a true fitted cap. But, you can get them to become a fitted cap. It just takes a little work. The Clean up is close to being the same hat as the franchise. The material is a little softer, but, in the end, they end up being the same hat after they’re broken in. If you were to check up on the cleanup, you would understand what I am talking about. And, it doesn’t really bother me if it’s a true fitted cap. If it fits me and I like it and it’s fitted (either a stretch fit or a true fitted cap) it’s just fine for me. Like I said, to each their own. Also, I don’t mind bending my visor until it stays. It just takes some time. Maybe a week? Maybe less. I’m just a big fan of the 47 Brand. I haven’t found another brand that comes close for my taste. It’s all about preference and taste. I didn’t even know that the 47 brand made those fitted caps until I saw your video. It’s funny because you actually have to search for them on their website. They do not just pop up with the team that you punch in.
@@tomalafleur8602 From '47, I like the MVP model as an adjustable low silhouette (but structured crown) cap, and it seems they've just about stopped making Fitted caps, apparently to focus on their strengths in dad caps.
@@dreinthe616 I guess they have. What New Era would be the closest to the ‘47 Franchise? I don’t like my hats to be stiff above the team logo. I guess that would be the crown/ top. I’ve looked at a couple, but I’m not sure if they’ll loosen up with wear. I just can’t get away with those types of hats. It makes my head look huge to me. I guess I like a more fitted hat all the way around. Do they make a hat in a stretch fit like the 9twenty?
@@tomalafleur8602 I honestly don't think there is a New Era equivalent to the Franchise. The 39Thirty is their stretch fit cap, but that has a buckram-lined structured crown.
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I cut the Backroom out of the 5950
Same I just like the softer feel on them much better.
Love ‘47 much much better. Wish they had MLB license. 5959 overpriced and inconsistent
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I don’t like the 47 brand it reminds me of the zephyr brand hats 😒
🤣 I remember those cats would get them when they couldn't afford new era . These are much better quality tho IMO