NBA Referees Could Ruin Everything (WORST CALLS EVER)
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What would you say is the "WORST NBA CALL" in 2023 so far?
jordan poole passing the ball to the ref 💀🤦🏽♂️
Lebron vs Celtics
Poole passing the ball to the ref and the no call when Tatum literally smacked James hand
Why does your comment says 13 hours ago when you just posted the video 13 minutes ago?
@@arikejoja9461maybe because this was a scheduled upload or he made it private 13 hours ago and just published it now
Its a true problem, the league has to do something. At the very least, make refs have pressers answering for their calls so their is some sense of accountability. Also, having a criteria for technicals instead of giving refs individual leeway would be nice. Calling technicals for emotional reasons shouldnt be allowed whatsoever.
calling technicals on a player or coach for saying something shouldn't be allowed. only physical violence
They got paid to do so, what do you expect when NBA can get a cut from gambling companies, it's doom to fail decision, the fans are just too stupid to stand against it
Nba management doesnt care, this is why nba cant beat bfl
sports betting is what really ruining this games.. the nba already had an issue of refs purposely helping team they have bet on..
They aren't refs. Theyre fr33masons
These referees need to held accountable for all this bull crap. Absolute insanity.
could be match fixing too they need to be investigated and held fully accountable.
they won't, since they have a union and adam silver is as useful as a bent nail
The Whole Entire NBA Refs Needs To Be Fired For Being Blind And Death
Scott foster made sure the warriors beat the kings today.
Yes. Tim Doneghy accountable. They have become completely bias to certain people, it's not even worth it anymore.
I lost all hope for the refs when sports gambling became legal 💯
@@goopy6012 you are naive to think nba doesnt fix games because of gambling..
@@goopy6012look up Tim Donaghy
What? You know that in the rest of the world Sport betting has been legal forever, right?
Like how do you think sports work in other countries that have always had betting?
Not to mention, I've been betting on NBA games for decades in the UK, why would it make any difference now that its legal in the US, in addition to the rest of the world?
@@bipolarminddroppings It’s still a relatively new thing here in the US, that’s what I’m referring too.
I think the temptation of making bets on games that they the referees are officiating themselves are too strong.
it’d be hard turning away from doing something like this when there’s so much money that could be made.
especially when you have that much power to influence the outcomes of games.
I mean just look at Tim Donaghy, and that was before sports betting was legal in the US.
The guy probably made a fortune before getting caught.
But that’s just my theory 😉
Gambling was always legal *somewhere*. So it's not like the risk of dirty refs was ever zero. It's just that now we have such high quality video that now we have to stop and wonder what's going on.
If enough people keep complaining, there will be a critical mass and the NBA will have to address it. Videos like this help build that momentum, well said
I don't think they care until people stop watching. I believe the only way it would change at this point is if there was a mass exodus of fans at arenas and watching on TV following a tweet from a popular person with video evidence saying "boycott the NBA." If the arenas weren't full and the TV viewership was down like 50% they'd have to address it and cut the shit out. Aside from that, it's already so obvious. They don't care. Every Lakers game I've watched since that missed call on Tatum vs LeBron, they've gotten some favorable whistles. I seem to remember a game against the Suns where they shot like 50 fts.
its been happening long before this video and nothings been done to improve things :/
Just quit watching. The only thing that will change their mind is if their wallets get hurt. They don't give a shit about you or anyone else. All they care about is about is money.
It doesn't matter how many people complain, as long as people keep watching on TV and selling out arenas and buying merch the NBA won't care about a few fans who complain.
Damn Thorgodofthunderd ,, you read my mind I been saying for years if the fans walked out on games when a all star/super star is ejected and the game is play in a empty arena ,, that is the only thing that would make the NBA pull in the refs and it doesn't matter if the all star/super star is a home player or visiting,,stop complaining and realize it your money they want ,, so in reality we'll the one with the power
How to fix this:
1.- Refs need to start getting punished for irrational calls
2.- If a team use challenge and they were right and it's successful, the challenge should be refunded in case they need to challenge another call in the same game.
3.- If a team use challenge and they were wrong and it's unsuccessful, they lose the ability to call for challenges for the rest of the game, that way they don't just challenge every call and the pace of the game is not affected.
Those refs need the money from match fixing my man. They aint changing anytime soon
I agree on if you initially challenge a call and win, you retain timeout and challenge. If you challenge later on and win/loss you still lose the timeout, and lose the ability to challenge again that game. This gives more incentive for coaches to challenge egregious calls early in the game to maybe give the refs some belly aching earlier on.
where are the irrational calls? Cus we can go consult the rulebook where we will see displayed everything that will justify everything you are crying about.
@@koophuisN the pass to the ref, the other multiple ones shown this year alone. Are you special needs?
I don't like this system because ultimately "challenges" are meant to correct refs mistakes, and it shouldn't be on the team to perfectly referee better than referees. We allow referees countless mistakes that cost entire games so why punish a team for a single referee correction? The system for losing your challenge is already hard enough, I only agree that people who challenge successfully should be able to keep challenging successfully that way you completely negate corrupt referees.
I really suspect that the Ref betting pool is back. There's literally no other reason why calls are like this for this year. It's been mask off and the league needs to do something about it.
The league is on it what do you mean? 😂
They not doing nothing about it
Punk Adam silver
100% they are betting the line. All refs should be subject to a financial audit yearly
Nba rigging is a science. Refs are all still employed because making dumb calls is what they paid for. The reason is it’s better for business to have close games or certain tems in playoffs. Nba is a business first, competition second.
Facts!!
@@monalisa-bs4zs problem is youre making it sound like it should be tolerated..
100% these refs be betting and they have a group chat that makes all the calls
Yep. Every ref should be mandated to have a financial audit yearly. Let’s see how these guys are getting rich off of a relatively small salary
100%
I’m so proud of VanVleet for calling out the refs for it.
You are so proud for someone swearing on livetelevision. being a rolemodel for our children. let me teach you, that is not the proper way. Maybe you are a the ends justify the means person but that is not the way. I get what you saying from the activism point of view. But c'mon dont expect ingorant basketball players to know how to behave and be a good role model for younglings. we did had Kobe tho. who would shake the hands of every worker in the arena.
@koophuisN it's truly not that damn serious 😂😂😂😂
I thought VanVleet was right in calling out the bs the ref was on... more players need to do so...
@@koophuisN sports athletes should not be considered role models. And this is a fucking free country. He can cuss if he wants to. Don't like it don't watch. It's that easy. Since I cussed do you want to speak to my manager? 😂
@@koophuisN I don't usually condone swearing, but he was well within his right to call out the horrible calls the refs made.
One of the worst ones I've seen happened was that one where Tim Duncan ejected for mildly laughing while on the bench
Are you a spurs fan?
Joey Crawford was and will always be a clown lol
I heard about that. One of the worst calls in NBA history. And I'm not even a Spurs' fan.
Reminds me of Tim Duncan getting tossed out for laughing in the bench
lol, that clown ref. and it's so funny when tim realize he got the t
The NBA has so many campaigns yet fail to do something about their refs. The only things worse than that is their nba league pass app actually
I’m 99% sure the refs hate the warriors during away games.
FAXXXX
True! They seem to despise the warriors and pels
True
You aren’t lying at all bro either that or the league in general is sick of them winning
"Hate" is not what id call it.
The rules for a tech need to be changed cuz the refs abuse the shit out of them
NBA needs to fine these terrible calls. This would save the league
I think there should be more transparency with refs/umps now in the age of legalized gambling. ‘We hold them accountable’ behind closed doors is total BS.
Absolutely.
Idiots take. If refs were bad they would be fired. Making dumb calls is their job. Rigging outcomes is refs job.
3:55 Wow that's really nice. Didn't think Ja had that in him. Happily surprised.
Honestly, as an NBA fan, you see bad calls, soft calls, crazy no calls, and for the most part, you just forget about them after you’re done venting. Whether that’s to yourself, to the TV, the person next to you, or in a lot of cases both, but when you see this many across the league within such a short time period, even if it’s from one season to the next separated by just a season or two it really has me scratching my head, like wtf. The NBA needs to do something about this ASAP, and it’s absolute trash that fans can get screwed over this badly spending their hard earned money to be at a game, or even be able to just watch their favorite player by paying for some subscription. I literally am subscribed to multiple services just to be able to watch different NBA games, and it’s frustrating as it is for me which I’m sure is the case for other people as well when you’re only spending that money for the sole purpose of watching your team, or in some cases a player, can you imagine a kids Christmas present or birthday present being courtside seats just to see their favorite player get injected for clapping in the first quarter, it’s a complete joke, in the NBA is totally wrong, speaking to you, Mr. Silver, there should be full transparency, I want to know what actions are being done to the person who ruined the game for so many, there’s no reason why teams, players, management, coaching, ownership should have so much transparency, whether they like it or not when it comes to that franchise, but when it comes to actual NBA employees i.e., the referees, we don’t know their punishment, nah, that’s not cool at all imo. Also, I don’t think it’s crazy for the NBA to have random lie detector tests conducted on referees on a regular basis, especially in cases where there is questionable, intent, because I’ll be damned that I’m losing hundreds of dollars in a parlay because you didn’t like the way a player passed you the ball and now this 30 points per game. Average player is leaving the game with five points before the game has even started. Tell me I’m wrong! And thank you very much for this video! 🙏🙏🙏 !
“Who’s your daddy” 😂💀
You can start running a new weekly show "Reftin' a Fool" 😂
Seriously the greatest threat to the Warriors are the refs.
Soft Ref & soft ERA 😂😂🤣
Soft refs 100%!
Let's have them ref volleyball. Where they celebrate everything.
Everyone kicked out, they'll be in your home kicking you out. Volleyball celebrates every damn thing. NBA? Tech. Tech for looking at a ref. Tech for smiling. Tech for breathing.
Soft.
Poole getting a tech for bounce passing the ball to the ref is the funniest bs ever lmaoo
you know it's *really bad* when even the opposing team question the tech lmao
Referees controling the game, they decide who might win every game. Next time I assume who ever complaints in Social Media got a Tech when they played 🤣
The most ridiculous tech i've seen was that Tim Duncan was laughing at the bench then got a T! 😂
In terms of what all you said, I’ll agree with you on a majority of it. But I want to push back on a couple things… first, that last video at the end.. that’s not a foul. In fact, it’s an offensive foul if we were to call it by the book (which the NBA never does). But I do see what you mean… it’s been called this way throughout the season and you want consistency. Absolutely agree with you! Second, the majority (and I mean over 80%) of the NBA players feel they need to have a conversation with the referees the whole game… if you were trying to call the game and counsel the players for 48+ minutes every game, you would grow a little frustrated. Some of these “referees lost their minds” moments are moments of frustration being released. They are critically assessed, instant replay video review is there to inform them that they are wrong over half the time, and some players want to talk/complain to them more than they want to play the game. Two easy examples are Draymond Green and Luka Doncic. Finally, these referees are trained to basically get bullied every night. Should they be better… absolutely! In my opinion, today’s refereeing is the worst it has ever been… but I also believe that the complaining is at the highest it has ever been. There has not been one player this year that has played perfect, yet they want the referees to be “flawless”. If a referee sent an entire season with 100% accuracy of their calls, I guarantee you that they would still be criticized/bullied by players.
Referees need to be better… there is just no other way to say it. Honestly, if you want them to be better, Adam Silver needs to stop enabling the offense over the defense.. no more carrying the ball, no more traveling, no more “gather step”, no more illegal screens (there are over 50 screens every game), no more three step dunks, etc. As a referee, I can tell you that the high school and college rulebooks are so different from the NBA rule book that you can’t even compare the two. That’s how a lot of these referees start out their refereeing careers… refereeing high school of recreational leagues. The NBA isn’t basketball… it’s a business and a form of entertainment for people. You’re asking people to referee an entertainment show. If that were the case, don’t call any fouls on the superstar and whenever possible, give the superstar the advantage. The majority of people aren’t there to watch Desmond Bane, Tyrese Maxey, Dorian Finney-Smith, Malcolm Brogdon, etc. They want to see Curry, James, Durant, Tatum, Embiid, Antetokounmpo, etc. That’s just not basketball… it’s individualizing the sport and athletes (which is what MJ did) and you can’t referee that.
Anyway, tell me what you think!
I saw the still and thought to myself HELL YEAH the refs are ruining games…
You should've mentioned after Dray got the T, Steph went ahead and got one himself also. lol.
The ref with ja was jealous he had no rizz
WTF is rizz??? and no, I'm not gonna urban jungle dictionary it...
@@MoveoverAndbark rizz is like how much game you have when attracting people
I'm sure after this season the NBA player association will force something about these ridiculous tech party. This is getting out of hand. So much power has been given to officials, you can't even refute them. No way are the players okay with that. Maybe some salary deduction, suspensions and/or incentives for good officiating can do the trick
I think the best way to prevent this kind of thing in the future is to have NBA referees retrained every couple of years, or maybe even every year, if the referee has a history of making wrong/soft calls.
Also, introducing some kind of referral system, where the team can call for a decision to be reviewed would help the game. It could be done like cricket where there are a certain amount of challenges a team could make per game, if their challenge is successful then they get the challenge back, but if it's unsuccessful, they lose it.
Really proud of how far this Channel has come I remember when you guys were at 10K 🤯🤯
Steph Curry also received the same Tech doing the same as Draymond that game. Curry made that with sarcasm and in full intent.
Literally any calls can affect the end result of a game as shown here. Also shown is the way the ref feels that day, about a player or quite literally anything that take their emotions into account. The players aren’t there to please the refs and they need to be held accountable for the horrible game costing calls they make
I haven’t watched the nba since 2000 when the reffing was easily noticeable that they were controlling the game.
Poole getting a tech with just passing the ball is just mind-boggling
Techs are a big issue, but the biggest issue is when refs don't apply the rules equally. I hate non-calls more than techs. It really ruins the game.
On most plays, there is always something that happens that could be categorized as a foul. Some players/teams will get soft calls all the time, and others won't get any calls. The ability to challenge calls actually made the issue worse. When they review, they continue to not apply the rules fairly. If challenged, they can enforce the rules strictly or loosely to justify their bias.
Worst non call is definitely when norman powell fouled by ben simmons. UA-cam it, there's no excuse!
Forgot the tech on Duncan sitting on the bench laughing. 😂
Tech on Tim Duncan for laughing, is my favorite. 😄
There should be a betting line if a certain superstar will get a Tech that game lol.
The thumbnail 🤣🤣🤣
I got T'd up in a middle school game for doing the exact same thing Tatum did at 5:08 lmao
I´ve been saying it for years now: The NBA needs a grading system for refs that is attached to their salary for each game. Too many bad games and you are suspended for a few games, several bad games, longer suspension. Good grades lead to a bonus and to be allowed to call big games. The grades should be given by former players, refs and coaches.
While I agree the bad tech and calls should result in refs being disciplined, I don't want them to be less sensitive in most situations. Nobody wants to go back to watching a player argue with the ref all the way back down the court or even leave their team 4 on 5 cause they're still on the offensive end arguing a foul call. Good video. Someone needs to start holding these refs accountable for inconsistent foul calls.
Wow and i thought NFL referees and Baseball umpires power trip were terrible
Meanwhile nba refs literally bet on games😂 look into that
Maybe this is common on all US sports.
I love these vids. This has been going on for decades. It’s worst than we think. Like betting bad
I cant post it but the Oprah “you get” meme.. 🤣🤣☝🏽
Thank you for this … now I hope Adam silver dose something about this it’s getting out of hand
There's definitely a problem with the refs right now, can't call travel or carries but they dish out technical fouls like Halloween candy. BUT also the players (especially Luka) definitely complain waaaaay too much and it'd probably get on my nerves too
You missed one of the greatest Technical given ro Tim Duncan sitting on the bent just laughing
I love your vids
Furthermore, teams should retain their challenge if their challenge is successful. This would make teams more judicious in their challenges but allow them to challenge those early game, momentum-changing 2nd fouls on key players and if successful still be abke to challenge those late game, missed out of bounds calls so crucial to a team's fortunes.
Teams shouldn't have to give up an early bad call to retain the right to chalenge a late bad call.
They want them to be robots fr
The classic Tim Duncan just laughing at the bench and got a technical.
Refs have been trained to manipulate games for decades. Look at Draymond's suspension in the 2016 Finals, and the way the refs helped the Cavs throughout that series.
If hedge funds and money managers can do it with trillions on Wall St., the refs of the NBA can certainly do it to help determine the outcome of games. Mostly for gambling.
2002 Lakers-Kings, 2000 Blazers-Lakers, 1989 Pistons-Lakers Game 6,
I mean Tim Duncan got a tech just for laughing on the bench !! So absurd
Dray’s suspension was perfectly normal.
@@GregNuggets but it did have a ripple effect... Not saying it was wrong or what.
@Oofbruh 2010 No, it was not. There were no tech called during the game. The tech was given to Draymond after the game. That's not normal what are you talking about?
Imagine all this calls in 90, players would've killed refs next morning sheesh
Fr, for now it will take a matter of time to someone knocked out ref like Draymond style lol.
When it comes to some of these garbage refs, the same old softness won't ever change, I can guarantee that
The nba should take notice on this vid
Half of the techs in this video have been in okc’s favor I don’t know if it’s just a coincidence or if something’s happening there
Edit: I counted and 5/8 examples of techs in this video have gone in okc’s favor
Le6FinalLosses has benefited the most from bad officiating, the worst offenders are the 2012 and 2016 NBA Finals
u make good video i luv u ur my hero
As a European fan, i genuinely dont understand Technical fouls. Like what, you give a foul because someone is expressing themselves? Not everyone is Tim Duncan. Like imagine Tech fouls in football (soccer for Americans), Neymar wouldn't last longer than 12.8 seconds and Mario Balotelli would be permanently banned from every football league
The refs hate the warriors
big problem: the refs
bigger problem: the players
biggest problem: it's on TV
I’d also be looking at ref scandals throwing games for gambling purposes. Soccer and NBA have already had scandals with this.
It's all about the gambling bet especially online betting. Investigate each game and betting chance on both teams.
What about the tech on Cade Cunningham in Phoenix when he dunks on one of the suns players and motions to his teammates.
One point of the people I talk to why they are no longer watching NBA is the referee stuff. There are now 3 of them and still missing calls and calling for what they make up.
I can think of a dozen games where ref simply decided who should win. Including playoff games and series clinging games.
To play devil's advocate on the Draymond Green technical, it's for stepping on the court as a bench player during live play, which is an automatic technical, refs have done the same to Mo Wagner Vs Raptors and are pretty consistent in calling it
I dont wanna sugarcoat anything that the refs are doing but I just wanna say that being a referee is incredibly hard. Like a bunch of things that you need to look out for in milliseconds at a time. These refs are soft and thats true but i just wanted to say that being a ref isn’t easy in any way. So yeah.
Agreed
Fax
True, but we're not talking about calls here. We're talking about refs using their power to express their emotions when everyone is asking and expecting the players to keep their own emotions in check. Simply clapping or yelling to a teammate, or bounce passing a ball to a ref who can't manage to catch it isn't tech worthy. You know what's just as hard as calling an NBA game? Playing in it. Frustration is a real emotion that refs shouldn't get to T up.
Very well done piece.
The Draymond one is because the game is still going. There’s a difference between game still going and there is a dead ball situation. All the other ones I’m with you, but I have to say one big thing about being a referee is that they have to control the game and steer it without complaining and interruption. Anything that they deem it’ll affect the game from normally proceeding, they will call
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, so the saying goes. I suggest that Referees, like players n coaches, should be made available to the press in post game interviews.
Guidelines cpuld be set up to prevent quarrelling and personal attacks.
Some way has to be found to rein in the power hungry and unscrupulous refs in the game.
Call it a press challenge and they are allowed 3 and they retain their challenge as long as the Press gets it right.
I would tune in for those.
7:11 POV: teacher discussion the rules in the classroom
Soon the rules and technicalities will be amended judiciously. Let's give NBA a chance. Seriously I love these people who spend time gathering facts. You serve as a light in this world. I love you all 😁
The way I see it, this is another way for some officials ("not all officials are like this I truly believe that") to rig the game, or have some sense of justice/payback for the teams that they are biased with/rooting for on the league. Because let's face it, they are people as well that has their own biases.
It is sad that just by showing how passionate you are in playing basketball, a player can be thrown out of a game and the worst part is if that player hits the technical foul ceiling, they would miss on games. Games that they could contribute into a win or a lost, so having them receive a certain amount of technical fouls, would make sure that they would miss some games, games that could be crucial to some teams progress in the league.
On the players side, when being frustrated on themselves for missing a layup and showing it by instinctively clapping their hands is something, that some players would understand, even on the non-professional leagues some players does that and by doing that it does not harm anyone, as long as you don't hit anyone with your hands.
But receiving a technical foul for clapping your hands out of sure frustration with yourself, is really bonkers in my opinion, have this referee's never played basketball before? and never clapped their own hands to show frustration on themselves by missing a shot that they made when they are clearly open?
We need some comparison between this season total technical fouls with past seasons'
finally something every nba team unites on
ALL NBA PLAYERS SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS A PROTEST. it's sad they can't have emotion at all during a game. It's there only option
In Europe, they would have trouble leaving the arena, not the mention the city. Also, people chant against crooked referees and throw lighters and all kind of other stuff on them. That pressures them to try to be the best they can.
As fans we need to do something!! 💯💯💯💯💯
Refs be wildin out lol.
More vidéos man 😂🙏🏾
Notice that most of these are against the teams that are playing the OKC Thunder. My favorite team
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Imagine a last game of the regular season where that game means playoffs or go home, and then ref calls BS tech and you lose game by 1 pt. You don’t make playoffs, only to have that tech rescinded. Or same scenario, only it’s game 7 of NBA finals. There would be riots!
Check out Max Strus’ tech vs the Clippers the other
Talk about bad technical fouls!
Tim Duncan got a tech for laughing while sitting on the bench. lol
League should be keeping tracks of this referees. They control to much of the game how they want it. Easily say it’s fixed to many bad calls.
What's really troubling is we see a bad call, go to commercial, and guess who the sponsor is- some online gambling outfit. Makes you wonder...
I don’t even know which tech was the worst!!! there are so many terrible and straight up crazy calls it’s hard to say!
The two worst things in all sports injuries and refs
This reminds me of the UNTOLD story OPERATION FLAGRANT in NETFLIX 😮😮😮
You record this on my birthday
This started back in the 90’s, this is why I do not follow anymore. The players are not in control of the outcome of a game anymore. Said! It’s a great sport!
Been going on forever . There is a game from 15 plus years ago . Lakers and Sacramento . I maybe wrong . But the lakers got so many ghost calls it was insane
As a ref myself in a different sport. Ref bashing is a problem. I always look at it this way: A player can have an off day, but a ref isn't allowed to and it's instantly called matchfixing?
The way the NBA is going, specifically the reffing, I wouldn’t be surprised if Live makes a league.
The players should do a protest of some sort just to show Adam Silver "hey, these refs need more accountability. Dont speak about it, be about it." In regards to like fines or suspensions, just like they give to players. Effecting momentum and outcomes of games ruins the authenticity part of things.