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"I'm letting you go"
"we need employees, please reapply."
You can't make this shit up
The truth is they don't need ppl. They want to keep your salary and will hire a few min wage ppl if they absolutely have to
I can think of 3 reasons for this to happen, (1) they just closed a deal with a China/India/[insert some other country] company to outsource the work, (2) possibly heard from one of their lobbyist about some government business subsidies coming up soon to help companies through their "tough" times, or, most likely (3) the top brass are close to hitting/missing their next higher bonus tier and need to reduce cost(payroll) to bridge the tier gap until the quarter ends, then they will re-post the positions.
@@imushavem7504 These idiots just don’t get it, taking away someone’s ability to pay their bills like this is criminal.
" We want to rehire you at a lower rate, with zero benefits, to do what was the job of three people."
What this is is the people they canned were probably making 'too much' money. They fire them and if re-hired, pay them 20% less. Fuck 'em.
The one single suprise in all this is that Sears is actually still a thing.
Sears should have been behind the right to repair push years ago .... it would have saved their customer base somewhat... as we nolonger fix anything, it's just throw-away products and appliances, but now corporate america is going to sell us all on "climate change" while SIMULTANEOUSLY making sure products cannot be fixed and we must buy new, and adopt their subscription/rentership society.
I thought Sears died decades ago rflmao
Sears has the largest repair organization in the country..A and E repair that when you call for an appliance repair DONT use A and E
They had an easy time laying them off, cuz they had already had to lay off 2/3 of the company
@@VioFax this is getting into politics. I' ll try to keep it as apolitical as possible. Solutions to a societal problems are almost always imperfects and prone to be useless. However, doing nothing, you will get the status quo. A cancer that got treated may not go away, and the treatment may be miserable, bankruptcy, but it may also able to keep you alive long enough to enjoy life as long as you can. Companies prefered to keep selling cheap replacable products but they also hated to waste their money, facing the legal court over pollution. Right to repair had already exist to an extent in car repair. Eu Government already mandated that Apple used usb-c, force employers to implement permanent contracts, create the right-to-disconnect, force more data regulations. Do the problems got solved entirely? No, but it helped societie better than not having them at all.
Word of advice: Whenever any manager tells you not to record something, record it as quietly as you can.
it is legal? Can I use it later?
@@bazosmarek7981 depends on the state you live.
If it requires only one party to consent to the recording, then you should be fine.
Corollary: If you are being recorded, you should also record. Somehow, recordings that you and all others present saw and heard replayed in your presence, "never happened" once they are demanded under discovery. Suddenly, management, HR and attorneys become a team of lock-step perjurers. No one on that team has the balls to tell the truth. Right, City of Hollywood, FL?
For the record, Florida is a 2 party state ⚖. I know of a security officer, female who was fired for secretly recording phone calls, staff.
@@localjess838 It has nothing to do with consent, all you have to do is inform them you are recording
This is why i dont have any company loyalty and dont go the extra mile. I do my job and go home. I'm only there for a paycheck, boss wants me there for my service. That's it. It's not my 2nd home, so don't bring family picture, knick knacks, toys, stuff from home. im not there to make friends, we're not "family". When things change, suddenly it's not personal, it's a necessary business decision. I just walk out empty handed, or I just dont show up for work. I have zero emotional attachment to my job, jobs.
Hear hear! I have said that even when my company was going through the best times. When upper management says this i want to vomit😂
Yep!!!
Thank you!!!@@socat9311
@LosAngeles-le2bf thank you!
💯 best comment on here
Saying "you're laid off, but you can apply for another job in the company" probably allows them to reset seniority and benefits to entry-level. 🤮🤬
it also allows them to blacklist bc they can always say "oh well we are pursuing other candidates"
It sounds like these individuals were just hired. This reminds me of some Fortune 500 companies (or former) that would hire a bunch of new people so they could fire them when the annual "fire the bottom third" event came. It protected the incumbants.
I worked for a small family owned company for over 10 years. I had to quit and move over seas to take care of a sick family member. I came back a year later and got my job back and lost all my vaction days and a couple months later I realized I didnt get payed holiday pay and they told me it was because I was still on my probation period...I guess that decade of hard work didn't mean shit to them 😅
Sears was going bankrupt..... in retrospect.... this was the best thing to happen to her and allowed her severance... this was actually helping her believe it or not.
It doesnt reset seniority or benefits when Sears does that though. It's stupid as hell what they're doing in this video, but it's not done for those reasons.
Firing people who literally just completed training while simultaneously encouraging them to apply again for a job at Sears. THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE
It does, is called "milking the fool cow" i suppose
Some of it gets down to right hand/left hand .
I had a friend who hired on as a truckdriver on Thursday told to be at orientation that next Monday and the company locked its doors that Saturday (last week). It's a lengthy process to hire on . Everything has to be verified. So it wasn't a spur of the moment hire. Management just didn't tell anyone they were going bankrupt.
An strategy to low ball already employed people?
@@roguedalek900 I remember when did happen to that British travel agency out of the blue
It's all about disconnecting those people from the company thereby losing seniority and benefits and then hiring them back again as a brand new employee for less pay and the seniority clock starts all over again.
I used to be an IT manager for a fortune 500 and I was put in this position and told to fire the entire software development department. I quit and told them to do it themselves.
This sounds like the company's way of weeding out the non-psychopaths from management positions. This is a big part of why corporations are so evil -- you can't get promoted unless you are willing to be a cruel monster. A loyalty test of sorts.
You played the game and kept your integrity. Smart move.
Most of it was because they hired a CIO from G.E. and his bonus was tied to how much money he "saved" the company. After four years he caused so much damage he was let go and they brought back in house Software Development. He made a fortune though.
Well done, if more people did this then maybe companies wouldn't be so heartless
I hope you're now making lots more money with great peace of mind for being such a stand up person
Glad I found this channel. This channel teaches me how to play the corporate game correctly.
Me too.
It's like dating; fuck them over before you get fucked over.
@@businesscat4435 Exactly. Companies are like Tinder 1 night stands. Just get what you want out of them and dash. 🏃♂️💨💨💨🏭
@@businesscat4435 Except that in your personal life you're sinking to the same level of morality as these corporate antisocial baddies by engaging in that behavior. It ends up damaging your soul. These corporate baddies will eventually receive their karma. Won't end well for them if they continue to operate without a moral compass - includes having compassion for fellow human beings.
@@businesscat4435 I've never had a dating life like that. Dang.
Lmao, my coworker was PROUD that we was able to box 200 packages because we are short staffed telling me "it's possible " I replied, "the Company's inability to fill the position doesn't mean it's my responsibility to pickup the slack."
'If there's time for leaning there's time for cleaning.' I'd get people saying that to me who only earned a pound or two more than me an hour. Crazy how not getting fired for a couple years turns you into a company teat sucking kissass
What does this metaphor mean? I’ve never heard it
If you can "lean" on a wall or anything else, in other words not working on a task, then you can "clean"
@@suplexed - I have mixed feelings about that “not that I am above cleaning because I’ve done all sorts of stuff, but I feel like in jobs on people are saying that they don’t have any imagination
If she is not careful she is going to injure herself.
The employee reaction was so on point, she was very straight forward and told them about themselves then said GOOD BYE, she was everything♥!!...I wish her all the best she knew her stuff...Thanks again Josh for bringing this forth..it's so important for us to know how these employers (like Sears) continue to ruin innocent worker's lives...
Yep
People tend to hide their comments because they want to keep their severance and want leave in good terms.
But in her case, she just finish onboarding and have nothing to lose except job searching again. I would too spoke my mind too but directly more toward a vp or executives as they’re paid more to deal with my crap and allowed the company to “change direction”
@@RockyZajThoj Except that they can make her put to be a "troublemaker" and get her blacklisted from the industry.
Be committed to your craft, not a corporation. Thank you Josh! 💛
Words of wisdom. "Be so good that you that you can not be ignored, Steve Martin Be a skilled craftsman
*That’s the best quote I’ve ever read!*
Did you really need someone to tell you that? Sounds like common sense.
@@max_rove Yeah a lot of people do cause school likes to milk out robots who don’t question things and doesn’t help foster the elusive common sense as you say. Happy this channel is bringing it to light though. Dealing with these companies is a skill in itself.
Am I being fired for saying All live matter ??? I think everyone live matter ....
I worked at a company once that opened a new position on my team. I recommended a guy I had worked with in the past, and he was hired. I trained the guy for a couple of weeks, then I was "let go". I'm a software engineer. Every performance review I got was "excellent". I never released any major bugs. No release ever required a rollback. I generally finished projects ahead of schedule. Apparently, after a reorg a couple of months before, my "style" made my new manager "nervous". Given my performance history, that's code for "I just don't like you".
I was a network engineer. 25 yrs in the telecom industry and yes same here. Performance reviews always excellent, any network rollouts I never had a trouble always smooth. Customers would always send me cards during holidays thanking me for my support of their services etc. Then came Polly (kisser from NY). This guy hated me on first meeting. He had no background in engineering, no background in anything software or hardware. He was (drum roll please)..... A damn bartender from Applebees who was friends with one of our stupid VP's.... They hired him and made him our Sr Manager, over my boss, who had a masters in EE from MIT... Well needless to say, I had a Masters from a University but not near as prestigious, regardless. our dept made company money. He outsourced our entire dept to Chennai India. I was let go after 25 yrs and all that idiot could say to me was "We found people better and cheaper". My last day, with security watching me clean out my cubicle, he says "Just for the record, I never liked you". And that's how I ended a 25yr career. I am now a teacher at a really nice school and I tell kids not to trust any corporations. I encourage them to be entrepreneurs, to strive to be their own bosses. If they have to work for a large company, to be their own CEO and leave as soon as they get denied training or passed over or blocked from moving to another dept.. I tell them to always move within a company every two years that longevity means higher cost to a company...
@@briandrexler7627 The guy is just sad. He probably was threatened by you or just that he was not really good at what he does. In the end, technical jobs is what solves the problem of the day.
Replaceable is old and new in 2023
That’s at will employment basically, if the boss didn’t like your shoes you wore on Tuesday you can be fired (or without any reason at all, maybe they don’t like your face). Decent employers will still offer severance to give you time and/or not contest unemployment benefits. If they do you still usually have a case unless you quit on your own and didn’t do something super egregious like show up drunk or pee on the bosses desk.
If you are the software engineer you pretend you are, you should not give a shit about being fired. You can find a job anywhere anytime.
Shit like this happens all the time behind closed doors and we need get more of stuff like this out to the public.
Haha. This is the least of what we need made public. We need to know what's going on in DC
we need more of this made public, yeah. there's too much of the American public that are ignorant to how fucked over we get compared to literally every other developed nation. in maternity leave, in paternity leave, in severance pay, in STILL demonizing unions, in vacation and sick leave, in minimum wage not being livable wages, etc.
All of America really needs to be on the same page when it comes to these things; but we're not.
@@rai4119 everybody knows this is how it goes. You owe nothing to them and they owe you nothing. Employment at will
@@rai4119 Because the unions were just as bad if not worse than the company. Heard all my life about stories my dad had with unions, meetings with actual thugs there to usher everyone out so you couldn't ask questions and other types of nonsense shenanigans that had nothing to do with protecting each others employment.
@@rai4119worry about yourself, get a good job that pays enough to cover those expenses without any other help.
Just FYI - before you rag on these people- the guy announcing the layoffs may very well be the next one to be let go. Happened to my husband’s supervisor once. He was instructed to lay off a bunch of people. They thanked him for doing that and then let him go too. Let someone you are firing do your dirty work for you.
And this is why I'm self employed...... Got laid off in 2015 right before our annual company retreat - knew something wasn't right when they kept on delaying my travel information. These companies know when they are going to do this weeks in advance.
Of course they do. It's just filthy that they keep that information from the person most affected.
I get why, of course. If you know you're getting laid off, there are all sorts of problems.
You could look for and find a new job before they have a replacement, leaving them in a lurch.
You could start networking and/or poaching people in preparation to start your own business or to take with you to a competitor in some fields.
You could start sabotaging your work, destroying important documents, falsifying databases and doing all sorts of stuff that you could claim was accidental.
You could refuse to teach your replacement (that new guy they introduced to you as an intern or as a new colleague, when he was in fact meant to replace you once they drop the axe).
Or you could simply stop working as hard as you had previously been. This one is important if you had been doing a lot of overtime and your bosses know they'd need two or three people to take over your duties if you stopped throwing your back into it.
They're basically screwing you over to prevent you from inconveniencing them.
Got laid off in 2018 best thing that ever happened to me! I now own my own business and will never go back to the hell of corporate life again. F corporate America!!!!
Why were you laid off back then?
They know months in advance sometimes years.
People need to pay attention to this channel. I am in my mid 40s and I've seen a lot of dirty tactics by corporate. Josh tells the truth. Bust your butt for your craft, not the company. These words are so very true. Also, the moment you stop learning new skills at a job, start looking for a new job and do the same thing. Use companies to build on your skill set to get that job you really want. I hope there is a special place in hell for corporate managers.
wait am I mising something here?
they had them work for free for up to the max time allowed before having to hire them, then they fired them right before having to hire them in order to get free labour?
do you guys have no laws against this kind of deception?
Probably. Might just be that corpos wanna ride the waves until they're told by superiors to stop, or get sued out the ass.
Department of Labor might have some words with people over this, if enough care enough to complain.
I'm not done watching YET but I don't think they can do that. Most W2 jobs have to pay you while they train you. That would be a lawsuit waiting to happen if they didn't.
From the article, it seems they received a little under $700 for the actual training (minimum wage I'm assuming) and were "guaranteed" a salary in the 6 figures. Also, I'm sure their contracts had a probationary period somewhere in there. Because of all these scummy things, I think they managed to avoid any legal repercussions.
@@adequatequality Yes. SCUMMY. AGREE. The only reason those stipulations are in contracts is to support actions like this. 😤😤😤
They didn't work for free
Let this be a lesson to all of you, there is NO SECURITY in a permanent Job! Learn a skill, be a consultant or contractor !
True that.
Did this a long time ago and have never looked back. And would rather be broke and homeless than take another "full time" job
@@98f5 I only entered a full time job to make extracash from my real income job, on the "full time job" im always on the mediocre level peeformance hahhaha.
Then you'll find out how expensive healthcare really is
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What's even more criminal is, ANYONE at sears being surprised they are being let go. I didn't even know they were still in business.
Years ago, I participated in a mass layoff, as a consultant. It haunts me to this day and that’s probably a good thing. These zoom firings are next level cowardice. Anyone who ever says “it’s just business, don’t take it personally” needs to be gored by bull!
It's nothing personal... until it affects you personally, they say.
Michael, if I've learned anything about human beings, it is this. Whenever someone says "it isn't personal...", they are either lying to you or to themselves. Whenever you interact/communicate with another human being, that is ALWAYS personal. There's a reason why that is called "interpersonal relations". It is PERSONAL. As a matter of business decision making, eliminating an entire department/division as a 'layoff" technique was, in this instance, the way senior managers/ceo's/directors ALWAYS justify cost cutting so that they can show the board of directors and the rest of the share holders "Look! I'm taking drastic measures to protect your investments!!! Doesn't this justify me keeping MY job??" Cutting labor is the FIRST thing those sharks use to make the Books look good.
the work was being conducted over zoom, whats wrong with layoffs over zoom? lol
when a company doesent need some position anymore then fireing is just business and not agaist you as a person. thats the fact no matter if you dont like it. who ewmploys people without need for them? i also got fired once with some unnecessary weird words. but do i care? no. never expected much. the outcome would be the same no matter what approach is used. there are enough other jobs out there.
Was in the restaurant business for many years, enjoyed it, quit 1 day, 2 days later got hired at another job, 1 year later resigned 3 days later found another job, only in the restaurant business !
In all fairness everyone in this meeting will be fired soon.
Sears is done.
There's nothing more grinding, disgusting, frustrating or aggravating then knowing that there were some jobs that you passed up to work somewhere else only to be screwed over shortly after... I feel that gut punch, been there.
I have been an auditor and accounting consultant for 10 years and I have been in those top management meetings at dozens of companies. The amount of heartless sociopaths and yes-men/women that make it to the top is shocking. They don't care about anyone but themselves. It's especially worse if there is some sort of class difference. Meaning, if corporate is all college educated and the workers are blue collar, corporate will be even more heartless towards the workers.
Yes but you still choose to work in a profession that treats people like this?
@@mjohnson1741 the games rigged but sometimes its the only game in town
@@mjohnson1741 Bubba, ALL corporate entities treat their peons like this. And since they've driven most small businesses out, there aren't many other choices left.
You Sure got that right. Then when the typical bachelor degrees in BA meet a non degree manager who is clearly their intellectual superior, they don’t take it well.
Coming from the Army and made it to the noncom ranks, this is a thing there.
My heart breaks for her. At the same time, I love how this stuff is getting more public.
I love it when I see people get exposed and then they lose their livelihood! KARMA
Boy this reminds me of my last job, I was a supervisor for a construction company, they came to me with the job , anyway the salary was $6000 a month, quit a bit more than I was previously making, been doing this kind of work for over 27 years for about 3 or 4 construction companies, I know what I am doing and did a great job, but after about 6 months, they called me and said that they were going to take me off salary and put me on hourly and we would decide what would be the hourly wage together, after about a month with no conversation about my pay, they cut it back to $20 an hour, I was livid, my boss that never did nothing and I mean nothing, he made $12,000 a month, he got to keep his salary and I had to take a cut, I smiled and said ok, I immediately shut the job down, and drove back to the office turned in their equipment that was theirs and left without telling anyone I quit, my boss called me the next day and said we had another job to do and I said ok I will be there, lol haven't ever looked back, f_ck them, I know the kind of money the jobs I were doing was making, pure f_cking greed is all it was
construction is a dirty business man, you did the right something - i made up my unpaid OT by selling their scrap and company parts and tools
I work office/admin and had a reverse of your situation. When I first started, I was the admin/accounting contact for about 10 people. After 10 years of office population growth, I was covering 30 people. Manager would not hire any help, so i was putting in all kinds of OT to keep up. The result was the manager complaining about how much I was costing them in OT. I responded, then hire some more help. That went over like a turd in the punch bowl. Weeks later, she's all smiles while telling me they were switching me from hourly to salaried. I asked her what the pay raise was. The response was that I was ungrateful (meaning no pay raise). I said I would NOT sign on to the change. 6 weeks later, she hired help for HERSELF, and THAT person hired help for me. I'm still hourly. And that's ok. I put in a solid 40 hour work week and get paid for all 40 hours.
You're doing quite well if you were making 6,000 per month? The majority of Americans will never make that kind of money. 60% of jobs pay less than 40,000 per year. Yes, it's wrong your pay got cut down to $20 but there are those who would kill for that. You were still at an advantage being that you actually quit and were not laid off/terminated. Your situation is A LOT different then the example in this video.
@@mjohnson1741 you are failing to realize how many people we have in this country. That is still a shit ton of people making more than 40k a year, even if it is less than half of people. I’m in admin support (so I’m not there yet), but the directors in my office all start at 11k a month. Just depends on where you are.
@@mjohnson1741 not in California, 60k and above is common place. I make 65k a year, and live paycheck to paycheck.
I learned this early in life. In my late teens I stocked shelves at a Toys R Us overnight. I needed the job since I had moved out of my parents place, and every time I asked what the plan was when the holidays end I was told we'd be notified long in advance if the company decided to let us go. Plot twist: we were all furloughed at the end of the season without warning. They didn't even have the courtesy to tell us not to come in. We all showed up to a manager who's like, "Sorry, not sorry. There's no more night shift." I already knew not to trust companies, but that drove it home.
When I was in my twenties and working for GE Aerospace (Military Division), I once told one of the older Engineers I owed GE a certain loyalty for employing me. He told me "Do you think GE would have any loyalty to you if they had a pink slip waiting for you?" Turns out he was right. Age = wisdom.
Were you working there when "Neutron Jack" was the boss?
That worker was right. A company is only loyal to you as long as you’re useful to them. When you are no longer useful, they’ll let you go.
Yes indeed, my six years came to an end in 1992 when Jack sold off my old military aerospace division. @@swampwiz
I dont understand why people still bother working for these huge corporations.
My wife was at UPS and they laid her off and tried to charge her money for the trouble. Then, they asked her to reapply for a position with a lower pay rate and the same responsibilities.
They get away with this stuff because people keep applying for jobs with them.
I got laid off like that after training our replacements. They told us for months that we would be promoted. And the morning our “new” job would start, they pulled us one by one to lay us off. They also made us sign an NDA or they’ll withhold our severance and unemployment.
It's Sears. They've laid off so many people by now that it's just routine, and eventually everybody on this video is going to get it.
But laying people off immediately after a big hiring push?
@@SuprousOxide That's the kind of leadership that got Sears where they are today.
@@jeptoungrit9000 So true
I was fired by Sears as well back in the day. I got dressed, pumped gas, and drove all the way to the store just to be fired. Why did they fire me? Because they said “I cashiered too much”. Meanwhile, they were to ones demanding me to do it.
I'm from UK, what is cashiered?
@@minnie5301 I’m not sure about that either Minnie🤷🏽♀️
@@donnarupert4926 Working at a cash register. A check out person who works at a till.
Nah, probably one of the bosses didn’t like you.
I worked for Sears for 15 years. Saying you can apply for another position means- we really don’t want you. That’s why they don’t transfer employees to another department.
I'm curious if there will be some sort of corporate confidentiality "do not record our zoom calls" because of stuff like these videos.
Yea company policy that you can be terminated if not followed..... oh wait, you don't work there any longer so forget about their policy lol
@@Bamapride1985 Yeah, but that could impact any settlement agreement or claims against the employer.
Maybe that only applies if they know you recorded the meeting or leaked it. 🤔
Generally all calls are recorded these days and there are specific record buttons in VOIP programs already or screen capture software as well. The moment you are on a video call they can't say you aren't allowed to record this, because how else would the VOIP work if it wasn't recording you to send the video to another person.
My co-worker and I were pinked slip at the superintendent's office. This video shows exactly how cold HR is. We got the standard speech "not your job performance." Exit interview. 10 minutes later, management was standing in the hallway talking about their summer vacations coming up, laughing about how much money the superintendent just spent on a catered lunch for new hires. How do I know this? Because my co-worker and I didn't make it back to the office before she collapsed in tears. We were in a storage room across from where management was standing in the hallway and heard everything. Remember, no job deserves your loyalty, especially the school system.
I know an older couple which the husband got laid off from Sears Canada before retirement many years ago and leave him with no pension. He has been working there most of his life and luckily the wife is 10 years younger so that she can work to cover their medication expenses(dental, eyecare....) that is not covered by universal healthcare in Canada. Seriously they should just let the company close down and stop wasting everyone's time. Even the "management" in the video knows they will also be eliminated eventually... Loyalty only exist in smaller business, it is hard to make it work in a cooperate environment.
How is it even possible to lose your pension? I mean, how is that even remotely possible, at all? Just... HOW?
@@annekekramer3835 Declared bankruptcy I think.
@@annekekramer3835 I remember when I first entered the workforce and there were a lot of companies that were defaulting on their pension obligations. The one of advantage of 401ks over pensions were that the company couldn’t actually take the money in your account away from you, no matter how bad business got. Of course, it was mostly or entirely your own money that went into the account, so it was a huge win for the companies to get out of paying pensions. And the pensions, if you got them, were almost always worth way more money than a 401 could ever be.
That sears zoom firing was priceless. Thank you for exposing some of these people.
When the hiring manager says, "we're like family," my question would be, "Like the Adams family? The Munsters? Or the Bundys?"
Opendoor did the same thing to a bunch of us. The month prior it was "don't worry about the samdemic, we have resources to carry us through and we CARE about you" to "you're fired" the next month. I had also just been promoted as well. As many of your videos have pointed out, I was not surprised, hurt, or shocked. I was actually in the process of finding another job anyway since I was being asked to do some sketchy shit that may have put my broker's license in jeopardy. Anyway, it was a blessing in the long-run...I believe that they are doomed anyway because of the internal politics.
I talked to a couple of people there about a role this past year. They told me that this particular business unit was dying before the pandemic and really took off when COVID hit. If you worked there, you probably know which one I’m talking about. Anyway, my experience having those conversations was really negative, and the fact that that area of the business was doing so well made disinterested in the job. Not surprised to hear about their internal drama.
This happened to me at an old bestbuy company (future shop). I was promised work, but when layoffs came, i was the first on the bill because there was no severance to pay out. Its like us not showing up for work at the end of training and saying "sounds like a you problem"
I’m so glad this was recorded. Put these companies on blast and be committed to your craft. Not your job or coworkers. It’s just a job.
And remember NO job is secure. Job security is a myth.
It's disgusting that corporations have these big hiring events where they essentially tell people that they're able to hire them and then they bring in a lot of people and work them through training and then they just decide to lay them off because they don't have enough funding to keep them all employed. It seems like there should be a law that specifically prohibits companies from being able to hire you for only a short amount of free labor
Law comes then they will temp agencies.
Free labor wtf
Wait where’d the “free labor” part come from?
@@monkeytimestamps4915 if I work for low pay, expecting a pay raise after proper training, only to be fired before receiving my proper pay, you are effectively using me as free labor. What's more most of the positions in the video are about free internships that should lead to paying jobs but companies screw people over.
Are you referring to companies hiring contractors to work for maybe three to six months?
Everytime I quit a job, and I've had dozens of bad jobs, I just wouldn't show up anymore. Let them figure it out. They give no respect therefore they get no respect. Bottom line.
If you’ve had dozens of bad jobs, you’re the problem. Who the hell has had dozens of jobs, let alone dozens of bad jobs? Work on your personality.
Getting laid off by Sears into the job market of 2021 is a Christmas gift. Seriously, these people all probably moved on to far better positions than whatever Sears had as a zombie company.
Sears need to be sued by a class action for false advertising positions that do not exist. This is a self destroying behaviour by corporate idiots.
Sue for what debt? It’s a dying company.😂😂😂😂
Ghost jobs
Quite frankly I'm amazed it was a two-way call where they could even hear her and let her talk. I've heard of zoom call firings where they just read off a script telling dozens of people they're fired and then just ending the call with no way to speak back or ask questions.
Pretty much this.. Not sure why everyone is defending her since she sounds like a nightmare to deal with anyways.. The company would be glad to let her go regardless of the department shutting down in reality
lol, they’re telling them to reapply so that they can ensure a select few go elsewhere (thereby enabling them to save money on overhead costs).
Two years ago, I was given three months notice that I would be “laid off” only to be transferred to another department with better pay and a WFH option. Guess what? Of the ten of us who were given notice, they only kept four. As for the other six, all but one re-applied for their old positions but were ultimately denied.
It’s a cold practice, but it works.
when downsizing started in the 90s ...i learnt a new term...donot fall in love with your company because they don't love you and when they get tired of you they kick out immediately
I'll never forget how sears terminated my position without even telling me. I worked for sears corporate not the retail locations. I literally show up to work and can not log in. I call my manager and ask what's going on? she tells me over the phone I was terminated, and I needed to leave immediately. no severance, no exit interview, nothing!
She did great even though their faces literally showed they didn't care at all. People really should stop being corporate simps and trust no company but their craft.
yeah it pisses me off when some employees with cameras on in zoom call have faces that look like they couldn't care less but if i keep it off and i get pushed to turn on the camera and mic. and unless explicitly told to do so, i leave both camera and mic off. i use digital meetings as coffee and snack breaks to eat. i don't want to be on camera scarfing down food.
I don't see what the problem is. Companies re-adjust and sometimes that means that some jobs aren't needed anymore. Like, what exactly is the obligation of Sears to these people? I get that it sucks to lose your job, especially when you thought it was just about to start, but suck it up and soldier on.
And this is why the two week notice is one of the biggest scams that exists. Rules for thee, but not for me. A two second notice is too long for them to give you. Just disable everything and explain later. If this had happened on their property, they'd have had security escort them out without even being able to say goodbye to other workers, like thieves that just got caught shoplifting.
This gal sounds like she made a great, competent manager, hope she finds the loyal, rewarding position she deserves! ❤️
there needs to be a way to hold these ridiculous companies accountable
What kills me is the "people that made this decision" were so pathetic that they couldn't deliver this news on their own. Yes Josh, there is a special place in hell for these people. That place is my place.
I don’t think God exist or else these kind of people would not just get away with such BS
My heart breaks for those people.
And I didn’t know Sears was still a thing.
Absolutely. Be committed to your craft not the company.
Also 3 weeks of unpaid training? I don't put any effort into any training unless its transferrable.
Why was lumberjack even there? Texted on his phone and drank coffee. There were at least three bosses that should have been doing something else, as they didn't contribute in any way.
Manager HR and.. Trainer?
they really had the gall to fire people after completing three weeks training and on top of that saying they had to reapply. The least they could have done was help them transfer after pulling the rug out from under them.
When the devastated lady starts sharing her emotions notice the apathy in all of the shill's faces. They only care about themselves. Absolute monsters. I will admit, I *DESPISE* working for a company. It requires a bunch of psychopaths or sociopaths to be devious, spineless and nothing braver than a coward to run a company. 🤢
I feel horrible for this woman. So horrible.
It's possible to be an empathetic person but to suppress any outward emotion. Also how can you blame them for being like that? They're making a lot of money at their jobs and don't want to lose it. No they are not cowards they are brave. They have the courage to endure many unpleasant things.
Hey, that's not what Asmongold would say.
And if her face was up there she would be doing the same
If you're middle management, it's what you have to do. No one on that zoom call had any real power. If you're extremely empathetic with every single person you lay off, and SEARS laid off a LOT of people as they were going under, you'll burn out. If my job requires me to fire a bunch of really nice, good people to keep getting my own paycheck, I'll be as nice and professional as I can while firing a bunch of really nice, good people, and I'll continue to do so until I find a better job.
Does that situation absolutely suck? Yes. Does SEARS suck for creating that situation? Yup. Are the people on the other side of that zoom call evil greedy bastards? Meh. Maybe, But they're probably just people being people, doing what they have to for a paycheck like anyone else.
@@ytadventurer9170 wouldn't. What an awful job, I would rather quit than being in that zoom call. I couldn't see my face in a mirror after this.
This is horrible and the worst part is they probably are not going to be able to get unemployment due to the length of time. They KNEW this was happening and didn’t care. Very cold. And then expecting them went to work for the company again. 😮 I also understand it is not their decision and they might have lost their job to tell them. The person narrating is also wrong stating they should question it and do something. Yes they can question it but warning them might have cost them their job as well. I am sorry and I have empathy but I am not risking my livelihood.
I worked for Sears for over a year in the automotive building across the parking lot from the store, and every single week we were not given our checks for that week. The store got theirs on time, but we were always late. I couldn't be happier that they are gone. I hope no one hired these "managers" somewhere else.
As a former employee from Sears, the first thing this woman made was applying to work at Sears in the first place. Ive seen how shady the company can be when it came to their employees. From minimizing hours to the bare minimum to a part time employee a manager doesnt like, making all of these metric sales goals and then going 180 on it by pinpointing something i missed, promising to be moved upwards or to a better department then get sideswiped by someone else that doesnt even qualify for it, etc etc etc i could go on and on.
I loved Sears as it was my first job and the job that paid really, really well for a part time college student. However, when Eddie Lampert took over, everything just went down the shitter. My breaking point was when my gf got brought in from another sears store to manage a new dept and then get let go 8 months later.
She's going to win that lawsuit as they did not follow Federal and State laws.
I got laid off in February 2023. After 23 years with the company. There are other people in my dept that don’t have the experience I have and can’t multi task as I can. I was not offered a pay cut or even part time. There is no LOYALTY and the companies don’t care about us. We’re just a freakin number to them. 😢😢😢 the only one who cared was my manager. She was in tears when she told me I was getting Laid off.
All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us.
It happened to me my first job out of college. Got fired after 2 weeks on the job. I cried on my way home. And then after there were other jobs where I only last 2-3 months. It would piss me off every time. Sometimes I would be let go in the middle of the day. I would have to go back to my desk infront of everyone get my stuff and go. It was humilliating. For that reason I now have my own business.
good job (pun intended)
on having your own business
I think what you do is important. I’ve known for a long time that this is how things really are. You’ve created a space to expose the people that disregard others, and treat them like they are less of a person. I’ve also seen you give props when props are due. Keep it up man, I enjoy the content.
We just had to let someone go due to budget cuts. Everyday I keep thinking when I'll get the email or call of them saying that I'm being let go. This is a horrible feeling, no matter how valuable I am to a company, I'm just one slight dip in profits away from losing my job.
I'm pretty certain this layoff procedure, word for word, was written by the Sears HR department. The managers were told not to differ from their script, hence their mechanized, seemingly insensitive behavior. I dealt with a similar situation when I was a manager. I had to let a team member go, and HR was all nervous that I wouldn't handle it delicately and that they'd get sued. They didn't.
This is SEARS for gods sake. Don't chose to work for a bankrupt company. And expect to be fired if they hire you.
When you are in a big company you don’t know everyone and they getting fired doesn’t mean anything to you , nothing wrong with that . A company is not a family , not a community , it’s just somewhere to make money .
EXACTLY !!
Worked at a restauraunt back in 2014 showed up to work one day and all the doors and windows were boarded up and everything inside was gone place went bankrupt never told anyone and closed their doors..i will not put my 2 week notice in anymore 😂
they need to change the law. They make people leave their jobs . Then fire you ..
Don't expect any sympathy when you turn your back on your team.
I went through the same exact thing. NEVER COMING BACK!
My daughter was working for Sears 8 years ago. She was working in a warehouse doing data processing and paperwork for deliveries along with phone work related to deliveries.
They decided to relocate 30 miles away which made it impossible for my daughter to stay there. Turns out it was good that she did not relocate because 6 months later they closed that division for good.
This is exactly how Sears does this. The managers literally have no idea that it's coming and they have no say in who will be let go. I spent a lot of years with them and this kind of thing is quite normal. You can question upper management all you want and you'll just be brushed off. None of this is right, but it is the way they do things and it's been this way since Sears and Kmart merged.
Way back I was given a month notice that I would be laid off. Then they ended up asking me if I wanted a different position within the company.
Sears downfall is probably one of the best examples in history of how to steal all of the value of a corporations assets legally.
The finance group that bought them walked away with billions $.
Before i became self employed, a director said to me after i had stayed behind every night untill late to finish a job..he said and i quote ..." you do a few extra hours after work and you want paying"..what a prat he was...i did not stay long after this and never worked for free ever again...that was in 1996.
I was a loyal employee for a small but profitable food distribution company in the Cincinnati area for 18 years.We were bought out by Performance Food Company headquartered in Richmond V.a.Well,the suits came in one day ,had us all huddled into the break room and let us know that they were a qoute" family friendly " business.I turned to my fellow employee and whispered to her ,that's bullshit.Well soon enough,the layoffs started.Fortunately for me,I was able to retire.They had the nerve to call me a few days later and asked if I would consider coming back for on a part time basis.Click !
This channel is 💯 waking everyone up
Companies will find out the hard way that they can’t be this way.
THIS "Be committed to your craft, not your job." Very wise words.
I'm glad this lady mentioned the other jobs she turned down to accept this position- and that alone should be enough to sue this company for, in my opinion.
They all could be happy and thriving at one of those companies they declined, for a position at Sears.
Well, I hope no one else plans to shop at Sears again, and maybe the next time there is a layoff, all these lousy leaders and HR Linda, will be the ones getting their pink slips via zoom.
Sears has been circling the drain for awhile now, they are down to the last 25 stores in the US. I guess this woman got sold a line about how they were on the rebound when she signed up, but clearly the reality of the situation is quite different. I doubt Sears will survive even for another year.
One cursory look at their financials would have disabused her of that notion. She made a bet and the house won, they usually win.
One of the more obvious lies the bosses told here - that the employees/traininees would have their access to the system turned off. The bosses knew that access had ALREADY been turned off. Why tell a completely unnecessary lie to people you used for 3 weeks and deceived? Just to make the company seem a little more professional.
People need to realize that large companies like sears, Walmart, etc, only care about their profit margins.
This is why you try to get a job at any kind of government position...At least they are not this kind of heartless... I worked at Sears early on in 2020 for like 2 weeks before the pandemic hit. I had manager who basically tried to "shame me" even though I had been on the job for like less than 2 days about me NOT opening up credit cards and NOT putting in MONEY into the MANAGEMENT's pockets... It made me LAUGH out LOUD when the Mesquite, TX location finally closed up after 20/30 yrs... When I left Sears for Amazon, I was LAUGHING my head OFF!!!! I knew the pandemic put Sears OUTTT!!!! Best thing to hear about in a v/long time...
Rehire so they can pay them less instead of transferring them.That's why.
This is how active shooter's are born
Wish more engineers from the IT industry in India had the balls to make videos like this
I bet these people are treated like shot, and have knots in their stomach and their bosses are bullies that fit their egos dad thing in order to keep their jobs, they have no self defense! How sad, in America, at least you have s fighting chance, not in India!
Unfortunately the labor court system in India takes a lot of time to fucking decide in employees favor, so if the Indian IT companies lay off employees and the employees decide to band together, the companies can blacklist them by asking other IT companies to refrain from hiring them. I saw Mirror Now's The Urban Debate on this topic, anchored by Faye D'Souza. On this debate, those IT guys who got laid off had to cover their faces and blur their voices in order to prevent companies from recognizing them and asking other IT companies not to hire them.
Sears is on the way out completely and the people on this call who didn’t get let go have their days are numbered before they get the same call
This sounds like how Lowes "eliminated a position" and said "we'll hire you back on at a lower position at a lower pay". Lowes living up to the company name.
Guy in the beanie keeps yawning and looking around when the employee was talking, shows how much empathy he has for his employees.
What the company has done there is pretend to hire a bunch of people put them into "training" for 3 weeks which is really an assessment program and then fired the ones they didn't want.
Sears has been on the decline for years now and that's pretty well known so to apply to work on a sinking ship is a bit ignorant ...it's shitty how they got fired but that's corporate for ya which is why I never would work for one.
I used to work for Sears at the auto repair center. I was forced out when the GM discovered that I made a substantial chunk more than he did.
Don't employ people if you can't provide them with a long career.
been there done that. Nothing you would say will make a difference if the decision was already made for you. The best way for you is to throw them off by saying "I got it, let me save your time and mine by hanging up". The other way to do it when they do it in person in the office is to just say "where my check and I will go clean up my desk".
While this reaction is what people feel at the time, word to the wise, don't say more than you have to in these situations. Threat, anger, random statements can be used against you. Say the wrong thing and they may have grounds to not pay that severance / unemployment.
Nothing that you say after they inform you that you are fired is going to change it. While it might feel good in the moment to vent, it is best to be non committal, don't agree or sign anything on the spot and request they forward documentation to you. Take some time to process everything then take the steps you feel are appropriate(labor grievance / lawyer / etc)
True, but I say: Let 'em have it. More people need to speak up. The public needs a wake up call that Both sides of Congress has sold the country to the sociopaths running corporate america. I think people are in denial, and that somehow they don't want to deal with it, so they avoid reality by tricking themselves into believing " Well.... next time I guess I'll vote for ...." and BOOM... fast forward 3-5 years, nothing fundamentally changes. Instead people have chosen proxy battles rather than the root cause of 99% of the problems this country has: Corporate Monopoly/Oligopoly power and it's FULL capture of BOTH SIDES of Congress.
Silence is the best and only appropriate reaction in these situations. If they ask do you have any questions, always reply no. End the meeting quickly and move on with your life.
I agree. The best revenge is to quickly find something else and improve your situation, and/or sue them (without warning) if you have actual grounds. Or, if the opportunity presents itself, turn the tables on them. I once worked for a "family" business (i.e. Nepotism Inc.) and got let go after two years - zero notice, zero severance. Company was "losing money" "I wasn't a very good...." - although he kept two of his kids on, one of whom was incompetent, the other was paid to come in and do nothing. I just calmly said "thanks for the opportunity, turned in my key, gathered my stuff and left as requested. A few months later, the former boss/owner calls me; he (being the disorganized clown that he is) "can't find a username and password" for a critical online software program, asks if I might have it (I did; some people ARE organized), and that getting a new username and password was going to cost him at least a day worth of work. I told him I'd find it and get back to him. Then I ghosted him. I saw him at a professional event early the next year - of course he had nothing to say.
I was fired this one time from an office job. They called me into the office where I saw my supervisor, my manager, and an HR person all staring me down. The supervisor liked me, the manager didn't, and HR didn't care. After talking down to me for a bit, they handed me a check then just kept staring at me like they were waiting for me to say or do something. Then the Manager says, "So do you have anything to say for yourself?" I said, "Is there anything at all I could say that might change this?" When the manager immediately vomited up a "No" I just stood up, turned my back to them and walked out.
Yes! I second this.
I won a settlement agreement against a startup company last year. I remained calmed and documented everything. I was being guided my last week by an attorney I hired, and I didn't accept their severance nor sign anything. I was only there about four months, and many lawyers said no to my claim; however, all you need is one yes.
I had emotional control and intelligence.
Never tell the company you have an attorney(will sue, etc.). Your attorney will reach out and take over the conversation.
Interesting....if you call ANY competent contractor for home imporvement / work around the home (i.e: Window replacement, repairs, etc),..they'll tell you they're booked out for months. Like 2 months to get an estimate to set a time to start work. Sears must utterly SUCK at this business model to not have thier contractors 110% booked...or they hired total inept / unqualified people or thier reputation is such that no-one will hire them. Which I gusss is a reasonable assumption since no-one I know would use sears services for anything, even changing tires. They are considered the bottom of the barrel in the services industry. But wow, to have such a labor backlog in the industry and be laying off. That's a major indictment of management right there.
Seriously. Note that the guy says "This is NOT a reflection of your performance". Obviously, because if the layoffs were based on performance, those management figureheads on the Zoom call would getting fired.
My son is a contractor and he just pushed my bathroom remodel out to the end of next year 😂. It was supposed to be happening around March/April and he just told me 2 days ago when he came to grout the floor he laid, “well, mom, we can talk about the bathroom at the end of next year.” That’s cold, son, lolol. He’s booked absolutely solid. Which I am very happy for him. He even asked me to not post his number anywhere right now, he can’t take on anymore work. He’s alluded to having to fix these “name brand” contractors work in the past. He’s happy they exist, they create a lot of work for him, but he gets really grieved charging what he should to people that were just harmed by these shoddy companies. (He doesn’t charge enough. Not nearly enough. The porcelain work he did here is gorgeous.) Yet these companies charge top dollar and leave their customers with garbage results. Absolute garbage. He’s shown me pics of the damage caused. Never call Sears, Lowes, Home Depot. And any good contractor should be happy to show you tons of jobs and have references. They also shouldn’t get offended if you ask. They love showing it off. Good ones do. Good ones offer to show without being asked.
Back in the 90s my mom had trouble with sears delivering on time. The management has always been horrible- surprising they are even still around!
I'm not siding with the employer but it's usually standard practice from the IT department to disable all access prior to their notification. Unfortunately i had to do it during those tough times (i work in IT). It's done to prevent the employee from doing anything drastic like leaking company private data after their layoff. I hated doing it when i was asked to, it just really sucks.