And Bowie, as he pretty much admitted, saying he came to a point where he realised his audience were far more likely to have Phil Collins albums than Velvet Underground ones. He tried to get it back later, and some of it was all right, even pretty good, but not what it had been and could have been.
Oh, but Bowie in the early 80s as he was changing gave Stevie Ray Vaughn the break he needed. After being boo'd at the French jazz and blues festival for playing electric and still trying to break through in the US, Bowie happened to see SRV and had him play on his album with Let's Dance as his most well known playing.
Aerosmith "Rocks" is for me the best Aerosmith album and one of the best of the 70's. I really liked Permanent Vacation but that was when they jumped the shark. U are spot on with all the other bands
Good rant, Tom. I enjoyed you sharing a little critical color in your musical tastes. Made me think over those particular artists, what I remember my friends and I may have said at the time when we heard stylistic changes in these and other bands we listened to. It’s fun recalling those observations and gut feelings. Good topic. Haven’t thought about that in a while. Cheers!
Don't know if you ever seen it, but if you want to see what a great live band Chicago was, check out Chicago live at Tanglewood,a venue in Lenox, Ma. from July 21st 1970 here on You Tube.
Great video Tom and you're spot on with all these. On the flip side, bands/artists who never sold out would also be an interesting topic. (If you haven't already) Also, if you haven't heard it I'm sure you'd get a kick out of U2 by Negativeland.
I love U2 personally. I prefer to think that they reinvented themselves and moved away from the edgier post-punk sound starting with their Brian Eno collaborations. The Joshua Tree is really a landmark record with a huge sound and some really timeless songs.
Nice job, Tom. Never was much of an Aerosmith fan, but agree with the choices. Personally, I'd throw in Journey. As soon as Steve Perry joined they were done. On an unrelated note, Have you heard Third Mind? A project spearheaded by Dave Alvin. Caught them last week in Santa Cruz and really enjoyed them. A bit like if The Dead swallowed Cowboy Junkies. Happy listening, as always
One has to admit that the first three Rod solo albums were groovy-cool, in fact song for song, Gasoline Alley, Every Picture and Dull Moment are nearly perfect records. Kinda wish he had just stayed with that Frankie Miller/Long John Baldry vibe for the remainder of his career.
Agree. Rod the Mod was a superb interpreter of great songs early on but the leopard-skin print tights and dire material of his later period - leading up to the tedious MOR for oldies Rod of now - is greatly inferior. He did manage of few decent songs in the post-cool period though, including The Killing of Sister Georgie.
These were actually his 2nd, 3rd and 4th solo albums. "An Old Raincoat Never Lets You Down" was his first solo album. - A solid album in the style of the 3 you mention. For me, "We are Sailing" was the start of his decline, although I think he made a reasonable job of the 2 Tom Waits' songs he recorded. - "Downtown Train" and "Tom Traubert's Blues."
I still think “Smiler” has some great songs on it. All of the Mercury Catalogue is Top Shelf. “Footloose & Fancy Free” is good, the band he had for that album Rocked out, but he went Disco/Pop after that and lost the magic entirely…
I agree with you on all of those artists. I like the early Genesis, U2 and Rod Stewart (with Jeff Beck Group, Faces and solo), which I regard as their best recordings. Some of the material on the post-Gabriel Genesis albums was not bad, still some prog vibes here and there but after around the time of the Duke and Abacab albums they really went downhill when they went pop. I like U2's early albums.
Re: Chicago. What the heck happened to Robert Lamm as a creative force in this band? Losing Terry Kath was a huge body blow. Peter Cetera wrote and sang some pretty hard edged tunes ("Get Away"? from VIII) and "Stronger Every Day" from VI) and then from 1978 on it was mush..
Terry Kath's death really took the starch our of Chicago, but Jazz is a hard sell, anyway. It works best late at night. It takes attention, Then Pete Cetera left and it was The Skinny Kid, and the brass line. Rod got famous in the early '70s, when Rock was king, but by '75, a change was in the air, and Disco offered an easy out for an aging Rock Star. That's the problem. When I was young and dumb, pursuing my own rocknrolldream, à la Jethro Tull's For a Thousand Mothers: "Did you hear mother? Saying I'm wrong but I know I'm right. Did you hear father? Calling my name into the night. Saying I'll never be what I am now." We thought we'd do this for a few years (ten years), get famous (or see a lot of bars and motels), make millions (or not), and retire to live a life of luxury ("I'm ready for my close-up, Mr DeMille"). Instead, a few got famous, and capitalized on it, and soon found themselves in the position of having to regularly deliver "product". Rod, and others, found it easier to do the Elvis thing, record albums that sold because of whom they were, or appeared to be, or with, instead of what they produced. The problem is creativity. The Beatles set a high bar, with 12 and a half albums of nearly-always-great songs. Dylan recorded 8 great albums in a row, took a five-album snooze, delivered another one. Elton had a great run, from EJ to Capt Fantastic, but nothing since has had the punch. Fleetwood Mac released 10 albums in the '70s, and most were good-to-great, then went pop, and didn't release another great "album", again. The Kinks put out 11 albums in the '70s, a torrid pace (even if one was a real clunker), but, as we've discussed, some of their best work would happen in the '80s. The Stones haven't done a great album since Some Girls, and the band released several clunkers, plus four "Greatest Hits" compilations and a live album between Some Girls and Sticky Fingers, with only Exile on Main Street rising above average. In the '80s, the Stones took to doing the Rod thing, being seen on Page 6 or out and about. The music suffered, but recording technology made it possible to make perfect music. Only the spark that drove it couldn't be created digitally. It's hard to be "amusing on command", or entertainling, impressive, artistic, etc. Some artists only managed one album, some two, or three, a few four or more, and a select group more than five or six.
“Early morning, April 4 - shots ring out in the Memphis skyyyy!” Nice line, but MLK was actually shot in the evening, not the morning. I agree with your rant. I’d add Modest Mouse to that list also
A lot of once great artists sold out in the mid to later 70's. There was a palpable decline in quality across the board after the counter-cultural Early 70's. Genesis also lost me after 'A Trick of the Tail'. I never bought any of their albums after that. 'The Lamb' is their masterwork in my opinion.
Chicago wasn’t just a good horn band, their albums were a pioneering force in music, with great tunes and groundbreaking arrangements. If You Leave Me Now was my first experience of wow…what the hell happened to those guys?
TBF, a lot of artists changed their style to fit-in with trends and only purists might object if the 'new sound' is as musically valid as the usual output. Many people genuinely consider Invisible Touch or Abacab the equal of the classic 70's progressive material. Selling out certainly made then a shed-load of cash. The real sell-outs IMO are those who compromised their integrity for a ton of The Man's cash. Proto-punk hero Iggy Pop advertising insurance or John Lydon pushing butter spring to mind. At least John's was to pay for care for his wife.
I got into CTA in part because I liked the political edge they brought to the music. (And I love horn charts, too.) That was pretty much jettisoned after III (when they switched to single-record releases), though they went back in a jazzier direction on the double VII (1974), which was for me their last listenable album. I have never been able to stomach U2, only because of Bono's "vocals." They grated on me the first time I heard "Boy" when it was new and getting rave reviews, and although I've tried to accustom myself to it since then, I still can't stand all that joyless groaning and melodramatic caterwauling.
Danny Dacus had a few good riff songs with Chicago, but I agree they went down hill fast after Kath passed. Never really followed Rod after 73. Aerosmith was a disaster after 85. Genesis I’ve never understood, just a band I can live without. Same with me about U2, they just lost the plot. Great video.
This is the first video of its kind to avoid the treacherous Pink Floyd / Roger Waters situation in the 1980s; a situation which is still being angrily debated. I wanted to say that I despise with every fiber of my being "Owner of a Lonely Heart," but then I hate even early Yes so it feels somehow off-topic to deride the band the way I really want to: in a long and verbose way. With wanky keyboards.
I've always had affection for "Do Ya Think l'm Sexy?". Going disco was no more of a craven cash grab for Rod Stewart than it was for the Bee Gees and the Rolling Stones. They all got some good hits out of it. And--hot take!--"Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" is more honest and compassionate than "Stay With Me", superior rocker though the Faces tune undoubtedly is. Sure, the couple in "Sexy" are just lookin' to get laid, no doubt leaving the disco where they just met in a cocaine haze. But they are also spending a few intimate, tender hours together. As a study of two human beings finding each other if only for a brief moment, it's up there with anything on Gasoline Alley or Every Picture Tells a Story. That was more sentiment than l usually indulge in. I gotta go purge all the syrup from my blood with a little Raw Power. Nobody ever accused IGGY of selling out!
let’s not forget the fall of elton john as an evocative singer songwriter, his intriguing piano technique and chord progressions , odd and compelling lyrics and subject matter by bernie. now he’s more or less a crooner, singing bloodless ballads and sentimental tripe. the warnings came in the late 70’s with “a single man” which, imo, had no memorable songs. things just went downhill from there, with a slight uptick when “jump up” was released in 1982. after that, 40 years of mediocre MOR pop. van morrison was another artist of that era with so much promise and so many early great songs, who also went the ballad route, and who’s output has been spotty at best.
I agree 100 percent. Elton had about 5 or 6 amazing years between 1970-1976 and the remaining decades were pretty unmemorable in terms of songwriting craft.
He become awful after Yellow Brick Road. I believe he stopped working with Bernie then as well. So a double whammy in his going from interesting artist to silly
Chicago was the biggest disappointment for me. Those first few records sounded like nobody else. I think at some point they even hooked up with David Foster (the king of schmaltz) .
"Schmaltz" Perfect word to describe it. I don't begrudge Genesis their success. That's fine. They could do what they want. And oftentimes change is necessary and even a good thing. But umm...I really didn't enjoy listening to it.
I don't understand this sold out thing, musicians are people and like all people we mature and our taste change we get mellowed out, the music industries change the world view changes. Unless your acdc who's whole catalog sounds the same you should sound different as the years pass if you don't then your stuck in time. I like early chicago, mid years chicago, and later years chicago although my favorite albums from them are 7 and 8, just like pink floyd dsotm through the division bell are my favorites I don't like anything before dsotm, floyd evolved from a weird group to a masterful prog band, cause they changed
Yau did not put the biggest sell outs on your video. Doobie Brothers. They started out as a really great band with China Grove and Black Water. They were like a cross between Grateful Dead and Creedence Clearwater Rivial. They were awesome. Then Tom left and the got that awful Micheal McDonald and his syrupy and boring elevator music. It was the most disappointing thing to see such a great group to be doing stuff for Dentist's Offices. You think Chicago was bad? Chicago was awful and yet not as bed as Doobie Brothers with Michael McDonald ripping it to shreds.
That's what I thought until listening to you just now and looking at it from say a 72 year old's perspective. Didn't Chicago just about say everything they had to say. I have personally seen artists sitting around their house doing noting AND not getting paid for it. Now suppose you were at a possible end to your career and then you found a way to make millions doing what you know how to do. I suppose one could say Wes Montgomery sold out...but then again maybe his seven kids didn't mind. just sayin
Would DEFINITELY add Elton John
Also Cat Stevens.
@@LuxVivens9 Cat's first two albums that were for Deram were his two best. His later Island albums had great tracks, but also filler.
I was thinking about Elton in relation to this video. But I just think he ran outta gas by the late 70s because of drug addiction issues.
After Yellow Brick Road he was never the same. That was such a great album and after that he totally lost me.
Absolutely! Grew up with 1970-1976 Elton albums and then disposable dreck with very few gems in the early 80s.
And Bowie, as he pretty much admitted, saying he came to a point where he realised his audience were far more likely to have Phil Collins albums than Velvet Underground ones. He tried to get it back later, and some of it was all right, even pretty good, but not what it had been and could have been.
Oh, but Bowie in the early 80s as he was changing gave Stevie Ray Vaughn the break he needed. After being boo'd at the French jazz and blues festival for playing electric and still trying to break through in the US, Bowie happened to see SRV and had him play on his album with Let's Dance as his most well known playing.
Couldn't agree more. I wish you would have given Heart an honorable mention though.
Terry Kath and Rod the Mod ruled!
Aerosmith "Rocks" is for me the best Aerosmith album and one of the best of the 70's. I really liked Permanent Vacation but that was when they jumped the shark. U are spot on with all the other bands
I agree their best album hands down.
Good rant, Tom. I enjoyed you sharing a little critical color in your musical tastes. Made me think over those particular artists, what I remember my friends and I may have said at the time when we heard stylistic changes in these and other bands we listened to. It’s fun recalling those observations and gut feelings. Good topic. Haven’t thought about that in a while. Cheers!
Great choices and selection. Agree 100% , noticed how all went from hard edged, nasty, ill mannered rockers to sappy polished high gloss sell outs.
Indeed 😉
not a chicago fan but that syrupy ballad "if you leave me now" was pretty great. and it FIT THE TIME perfectly
The 80's were rough for a lot of 70's bands trying to appeal to the MTV demographic
I watched this JUST to see if you'd include GENESIS, the BIGGEST sellouts of ALL TIME.
Excellent list and highly accurate analysis
I agree that Elton John would be in this category
Good picks. Queen to some extent. Also REM.
Surprised to not see Yes here.
Don't know if you ever seen it, but if you want to see what a great live band Chicago was, check out Chicago live at Tanglewood,a venue in Lenox, Ma. from July 21st 1970 here on You Tube.
I’ll check it out. Thanks for the tip. 😉
U2 in my opinion were and still are the most overrated rock band ever. Shocking
I concur
Beck-oh-La is one of my favorite record covers. 😊😊😊😊
What happened to Aerosmith was drugs and MTV.
I would throw in the various iterations of Jefferson Airplane/Starship.
@@stephenxian We Built This City pretty much says it all. 😉
I agree with the U2 critique --- less preaching and more playing. $$$$$$ = sell-out!
Great video Tom and you're spot on with all these.
On the flip side, bands/artists who never sold out would also be an interesting topic. (If you haven't already) Also, if you haven't heard it I'm sure you'd get a kick out of U2 by Negativeland.
That would be an interesting subject. Bands/Artists that never sold out. Thanks for the suggestion. 😉
J Geils Band and Kings of Leon are my top picks.
I love U2 personally. I prefer to think that they reinvented themselves and moved away from the edgier post-punk sound starting with their Brian Eno collaborations. The Joshua Tree is really a landmark record with a huge sound and some really timeless songs.
Nice job, Tom. Never was much of an Aerosmith fan, but agree with the choices. Personally, I'd throw in Journey. As soon as Steve Perry joined they were done.
On an unrelated note, Have you heard Third Mind? A project spearheaded by Dave Alvin. Caught them last week in Santa Cruz and really enjoyed them. A bit like if The Dead swallowed Cowboy Junkies.
Happy listening, as always
Never heard of Third Mind. Sounds like an interesting mix of styles.
I like Infatuation. When I lost a job, I changed the lyrics to: “oh no, not again, this time it’s permanent. I’m on vacation.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
One has to admit that the first three Rod solo albums were groovy-cool, in fact song for song, Gasoline Alley, Every Picture and Dull Moment are nearly perfect records. Kinda wish he had just stayed with that Frankie Miller/Long John Baldry vibe for the remainder of his career.
Agree. Rod the Mod was a superb interpreter of great songs early on but the leopard-skin print tights and dire material of his later period - leading up to the tedious MOR for oldies Rod of now - is greatly inferior. He did manage of few decent songs in the post-cool period though, including The Killing of Sister Georgie.
These were actually his 2nd, 3rd and 4th solo albums. "An Old Raincoat Never Lets You Down" was his first solo album. - A solid album in the style of the 3 you mention. For me, "We are Sailing" was the start of his decline, although I think he made a reasonable job of the 2 Tom Waits' songs he recorded. - "Downtown Train" and "Tom Traubert's Blues."
I still think “Smiler” has some great songs on it. All of the Mercury Catalogue is Top Shelf.
“Footloose & Fancy Free” is good, the band he had for that album Rocked out, but he went Disco/Pop after that and lost the magic entirely…
Once Terry Kath died, so did Chicago.
Indeed
Chicago sell out? NO, they were a commercial band from the beginning.
true, but they abandoned their creative and hard driving sound for mushy love songs.
If You Leave Me Now is their absolute best@@kurt11110
You can add Mick Fleetwood to the list, just listen to the bluesy early albums and you’ll be amazed at how Fleetwood Mac sold out with Rumors
No doubt about it.
I agree with you on all of those artists. I like the early Genesis, U2 and Rod Stewart (with Jeff Beck Group, Faces and solo), which I regard as their best recordings. Some of the material on the post-Gabriel Genesis albums was not bad, still some prog vibes here and there but after around the time of the Duke and Abacab albums they really went downhill when they went pop. I like U2's early albums.
This guy knows his music.
I’d like to hear your top 100 albums of all time.
Some might say Metallica.
Re: Chicago. What the heck happened to Robert Lamm as a creative force in this band? Losing Terry Kath was a huge body blow. Peter Cetera wrote and sang some pretty hard edged tunes ("Get Away"? from VIII) and "Stronger Every Day" from VI) and then from 1978 on it was mush..
A sad decline indeed. Total mush.
Bowie in the 80ies is a sad story.
I agree.
Terry Kath's death really took the starch our of Chicago, but Jazz is a hard sell, anyway. It works best late at night. It takes attention, Then Pete Cetera left and it was The Skinny Kid, and the brass line. Rod got famous in the early '70s, when Rock was king, but by '75, a change was in the air, and Disco offered an easy out for an aging Rock Star. That's the problem. When I was young and dumb, pursuing my own rocknrolldream, à la Jethro Tull's For a Thousand Mothers:
"Did you hear mother?
Saying I'm wrong but I know I'm right.
Did you hear father?
Calling my name into the night.
Saying I'll never be what I am now."
We thought we'd do this for a few years (ten years), get famous (or see a lot of bars and motels), make millions (or not), and retire to live a life of luxury ("I'm ready for my close-up, Mr DeMille"). Instead, a few got famous, and capitalized on it, and soon found themselves in the position of having to regularly deliver "product". Rod, and others, found it easier to do the Elvis thing, record albums that sold because of whom they were, or appeared to be, or with, instead of what they produced.
The problem is creativity. The Beatles set a high bar, with 12 and a half albums of nearly-always-great songs. Dylan recorded 8 great albums in a row, took a five-album snooze, delivered another one. Elton had a great run, from EJ to Capt Fantastic, but nothing since has had the punch. Fleetwood Mac released 10 albums in the '70s, and most were good-to-great, then went pop, and didn't release another great "album", again. The Kinks put out 11 albums in the '70s, a torrid pace (even if one was a real clunker), but, as we've discussed, some of their best work would happen in the '80s.
The Stones haven't done a great album since Some Girls, and the band released several clunkers, plus four "Greatest Hits" compilations and a live album between Some Girls and Sticky Fingers, with only Exile on Main Street rising above average. In the '80s, the Stones took to doing the Rod thing, being seen on Page 6 or out and about. The music suffered, but recording technology made it possible to make perfect music. Only the spark that drove it couldn't be created digitally. It's hard to be "amusing on command", or entertainling, impressive, artistic, etc. Some artists only managed one album, some two, or three, a few four or more, and a select group more than five or six.
I saw rattle and hum in a drive in with my girlfriend. There was only one other car there and I'm pretty sure no one was watching u2😂
allman bros!!!
“Early morning, April 4 - shots ring out in the Memphis skyyyy!” Nice line, but MLK was actually shot in the evening, not the morning.
I agree with your rant. I’d add Modest Mouse to that list also
A lot of once great artists sold out in the mid to later 70's. There was a palpable decline in quality across the board after the counter-cultural Early 70's. Genesis also lost me after 'A Trick of the Tail'. I never bought any of their albums after that. 'The Lamb' is their masterwork in my opinion.
I agree. The Lamb is their masterwork.
Serious 1970s artists that turned bubblegum in the 1980s would include Peter Gabriel, David Bowie and Bruce Springsteen.
Chicago wasn’t just a good horn band, their albums were a pioneering force in music, with great tunes and groundbreaking arrangements. If You Leave Me Now was my first experience of wow…what the hell happened to those guys?
TBF, a lot of artists changed their style to fit-in with trends and only purists might object if the 'new sound' is as musically valid as the usual output. Many people genuinely consider Invisible Touch or Abacab the equal of the classic 70's progressive material. Selling out certainly made then a shed-load of cash. The real sell-outs IMO are those who compromised their integrity for a ton of The Man's cash. Proto-punk hero Iggy Pop advertising insurance or John Lydon pushing butter spring to mind. At least John's was to pay for care for his wife.
jefferson airplane!!!
Yes, Starship is pretty atrocious.
let me ask a better question... who DIDNT sell out after a little success?
Quite a few. 😉
I forgot to add that Rod Stewart is big on there. When he turned into Disco Rod he lost so much respect.
I got into CTA in part because I liked the political edge they brought to the music. (And I love horn charts, too.) That was pretty much jettisoned after III (when they switched to single-record releases), though they went back in a jazzier direction on the double VII (1974), which was for me their last listenable album.
I have never been able to stomach U2, only because of Bono's "vocals." They grated on me the first time I heard "Boy" when it was new and getting rave reviews, and although I've tried to accustom myself to it since then, I still can't stand all that joyless groaning and melodramatic caterwauling.
Those are great picks Tom. I enjoy your comment section. There are some astute mofos up in here
Danny Dacus had a few good riff songs with Chicago, but I agree they went down hill fast after Kath passed. Never really followed Rod after 73. Aerosmith was a disaster after 85.
Genesis I’ve never understood, just a band I can live without. Same with me about U2, they just lost the plot. Great video.
This is the first video of its kind to avoid the treacherous Pink Floyd / Roger Waters situation in the 1980s; a situation which is still being angrily debated.
I wanted to say that I despise with every fiber of my being "Owner of a Lonely Heart," but then I hate even early Yes so it feels somehow off-topic to deride the band the way I really want to: in a long and verbose way. With wanky keyboards.
That has to be one of the most overplayed songs, along with Every Breath You Take. 😉
I've always had affection for "Do Ya Think l'm Sexy?". Going disco was no more of a craven cash grab for Rod Stewart than it was for the Bee Gees and the Rolling Stones. They all got some good hits out of it.
And--hot take!--"Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" is more honest and compassionate than "Stay With Me", superior rocker though the Faces tune undoubtedly is.
Sure, the couple in "Sexy" are just lookin' to get laid, no doubt leaving the disco where they just met in a cocaine haze. But they are also spending a few intimate, tender hours together. As a study of two human beings finding each other if only for a brief moment, it's up there with anything on Gasoline Alley or Every Picture Tells a Story.
That was more sentiment than l usually indulge in. I gotta go purge all the syrup from my blood with a little Raw Power. Nobody ever accused IGGY of selling out!
How bout Gentle Giant? Yikes!
Too right! Civilian is an abomination!
let’s not forget the fall of elton john as an evocative singer songwriter, his intriguing piano technique and chord progressions , odd and compelling lyrics and subject matter by bernie. now he’s more or less a crooner, singing bloodless ballads and sentimental tripe. the warnings came in the late 70’s with “a single man” which, imo, had no memorable songs. things just went downhill from there, with a slight uptick when “jump up” was released in 1982. after that, 40 years of mediocre MOR pop. van morrison was another artist of that era with so much promise and so many early great songs, who also went the ballad route, and who’s output has been spotty at best.
I agree 100 percent. Elton had about 5 or 6 amazing years between 1970-1976 and the remaining decades were pretty unmemorable in terms of songwriting craft.
He become awful after Yellow Brick Road. I believe he stopped working with Bernie then as well. So a double whammy in his going from interesting artist to silly
Chicago was the biggest disappointment for me. Those first few records sounded like nobody else. I think at some point they
even hooked up with David Foster (the king of schmaltz) .
Schmaltz is the key word. 😉
Bigger schmaltz of a great 70s band turning ick in the late 70s was Doobie Brothers.
Michael McDonald ruined that band
"Schmaltz"
Perfect word to describe it.
I don't begrudge Genesis their success. That's fine. They could do what they want. And oftentimes change is necessary and even a good thing. But umm...I really didn't enjoy listening to it.
It’s basically two different bands in regards to the Gabriel/Collins eras.
I don't understand this sold out thing, musicians are people and like all people we mature and our taste change we get mellowed out, the music industries change the world view changes. Unless your acdc who's whole catalog sounds the same you should sound different as the years pass if you don't then your stuck in time. I like early chicago, mid years chicago, and later years chicago although my favorite albums from them are 7 and 8, just like pink floyd dsotm through the division bell are my favorites I don't like anything before dsotm, floyd evolved from a weird group to a masterful prog band, cause they changed
Yau did not put the biggest sell outs on your video. Doobie Brothers.
They started out as a really great band with China Grove and Black Water. They were like a cross between Grateful Dead and Creedence Clearwater Rivial. They were awesome.
Then Tom left and the got that awful Micheal McDonald and his syrupy and boring elevator music.
It was the most disappointing thing to see such a great group to be doing stuff for Dentist's Offices.
You think Chicago was bad? Chicago was awful and yet not as bed as Doobie Brothers with Michael McDonald ripping it to shreds.
I agree with you on The Doobie Brothers. Their early recordings were pretty good.
That's what I thought until listening to you just now and looking at it from say a 72 year old's perspective. Didn't Chicago just about say everything they had to say. I have personally seen artists sitting around their house doing noting AND not getting paid for it. Now suppose you were at a possible end to your career and then you found a way to make millions doing what you know how to do. I suppose one could say Wes Montgomery sold out...but then again maybe his seven kids didn't mind. just sayin
💕👍 chicago 1 superb, from genesis to revelation, the only lp of em I liked...all the rest for me not interestng
Rant
Rod Stewart, Phil Collins, Paul McCartney, etc. are the stupidest musicians.
Never liked Peter Gabriel Genesis. Very happy 😃 with Phil Collins Genesis. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😅😅😅
More people are in your camp for sure, Genesis selling far more records than in their prog era.
The 80's were rough for a lot of 70's bands trying to appeal to the MTV demographic
The 80's were rough for a lot of 70's bands trying to appeal to the MTV demographic