spoiler alert - 7:54 George Sauer is in the College Football Hall of Fame and his son George, Jr. was famous as a receiver on the Super Bowl winning Jets.
When I was in radio, one of my talk show comrades caught hell for saying Whooping crane instead the correct "hooping" crane. There are now more than 500 in the world for a mild comeback.
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His name was Gerald (Jerry) Blaine (not 'Bane' - as was mispronounced). Mr. Blaine was not in Dallas in 1963, he and some of his detail had gone ahead to Austin, TX, which was to be JFK's next stop. He wrote a very good book about that time called 'The Kennedy Detail.'
Dina Merrill was a timeless beauty and the richest woman in the world of acting. REALLY REALLY rich heiress. She had a lot of sharp questions about ships - she was used to yachting.
George Sauer was the father of George Sauer, Jr., one of the stars of the NY Jets' upset win in Super Bowl III. And the Jets were formerly known as the Titans.
Bud Collyer takes time off from his hosting duties of TTTT far more often than John Daly did on WML. Does this indicate that Daly was far less willing to give up any level of control over the show, even for a week here or there? Or is it that Goodson and Todman thought that Daly contributed much more to the success of WML than Collyer did to the success of TTTT. Daly certainly had more to do. Collyer is basically a timekeeper and an announcer who occasionally repeats something that a contestant or panelist didn't hear and from time to time adds a bon mot to the proceedings. Daly often had to help a challenger or mystery guest with whether a question should be answered "yes", "no", "sometimes", etc. And of course there were his lengthy explanations at times.
Keep in mind that Collyer also hosted the daytime version 5 days a week and likely needed more "time off" than Daly. It had nothing to do with Daly's willingness or unwillingness to give anything up. I think Goodson and Todman were very pleased indeed with Collyer or he wouldn't have lasted for all those years.
The plain and simple fact is that Bud Collyer suffered from health issues over most of his life, particularly toward the end. I think that's the explanation for some of his frequent absences.
When he was at ABC News, Daly would only take off from WML for news assignments. After he resigned from ABC in late 1961 he never had to miss a WML show.
Wow--less than two years later, this first guy's name was "mud". And given all the controversy surrounding the Kennedy assassination, it's, at the very least, "interesting" that this guy's last name sounds a lot like the middle name of Kennedy's successor. As for the third contestant: he really is a hero. Back then, they were excited they'd gotten the number of whooping cranes up above 40. Today, there are about 800 of them. They're still classified as endangered, but 800 is a whole lot better than 45. And long may these majestic birds reign!
@@norelcopc2431 Yes, Johnny had been named by NBC at the end of January. They couldn't reach a deal to get him out of his ABC contract, so they had to wait until October 1st. On Paar's final Tonight Show he made some "insider" jokes about the situation between Carson and ABC.
@@Gravydog316 No Behn. Two different agents. One was a regular SS white house detail agent who was in Dallas. The other was the Head of the White House Detail who was not in Dallas that day. Names are similar but not same person.
Apparently, he was the Special Agent in Charge of the entire White House detail until January, 1965, and was in Dallas with the President on the day of the assassination. He supported the Warren Commission report. He also seemed to me very evasive in a transcript of one of his interviews years later after being asked about the sheer number of women seen with the president. "I've never seen any of those women before in my life"-style responses.
@@Gravydog316 No. That was Gerald Blaine in Dallas. Gerald Bain (head of the White House Detail) was in Washington during that trip. www.jfklibrary.org/sites/default/files/archives/JFKOH/Behn,%20Gerald%20A/JFKOH-GAB-01/JFKOH-GAB-01-TR.pdf Names were similar but two different agents.
I just read Kitty Carlisle's autobiography and she had quite a life! Besides her regular career opportunities, she served for no pay on the council for the Arts of New York and most of that time she was the chairwoman...
Polly had a hard edge to her that kept the proceedings from becoming too obsequious or soppy. She was kind of like a drier, more irritable version of Peggy Cass. Since I am rather dry and irritable myself, I rather liked Polly.
I've noticed on these old TTTT shows, the panelists often are reading from notes (likely provided by a producer beforehand) when questioning the 3 guests. Of course, they may, and often do, use their own questions as well. The guests were probably also prepped and informed of the list and what questions COULD be asked. This would explained why some of the imposters are so well informed when answering... i.e. they well knew what MIGHT be asked by the celebrities.
The panelists were told what the GENERAL area of subject matter for the segments would be, 30 minutes before the show, so that they could prepare some questions. They weren't given the actual affidavits, or any specific details. But e.g., they would be told that a segment had to with opera singing, or jai alai, or whatever. They still had to come up with their own questions, and the guests weren't given the questions in advance. The notes the panelists are consulting are either the affidavit itself, or their list of questions from before the show started (plus which, any notes they made during another panelist's round.)
The only direct involvement of a producer in any episode TTTT was that of Willy Stein, who coached the imposters on important points regarding the exploits of the person they were impersonating. He did such a good job that the panelists often make note of that when they are revealing their votes. There are many times when the challengers completely skunk the panelists, proving what a good job Mr. Stein did. Also, you can see the panelists make reference to the affidavit or their own notes during the questioning of the challengers, and see them write down notes as the affidavit is being read by the moderator. Because of scandals involving 'Twenty One', 'Dotto', 'The $64,000 Question', and several others in the 1950s, game show producers became extremely scrupulous about keeping things completely above-board. You can see the effect in the 1970s version of 'The Match Game'. Since those scandals nearly destroyed the game show genre, producers avoided collusion like the plague.
Tom Poston always tried to be funny and usually failed miserably. He was always getting on Peggy's nerves, which, I think, is why they seated her all the way at the other end this time around.
![What's My Line? - Joey Bishop; Jack Lemmon [panel] (Nov 6, 1960)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tG9tN_ucdls/mqdefault.jpg)
I think Merv Griffin is an excellent standing.
At ease and very professional.
Loved Merv, miss him badly, great laughs!
He's SO YOUNG here! LOL
spoiler alert - 7:54 George Sauer is in the College Football Hall of Fame and his son George, Jr. was famous as a receiver on the Super Bowl winning Jets.
When I was in radio, one of my talk show comrades caught hell for saying Whooping crane instead the correct "hooping" crane. There are now more than 500 in the world for a mild comeback.
Cool to see Robert Porter Allen!
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His name was Gerald (Jerry) Blaine (not 'Bane' - as was mispronounced). Mr. Blaine was not in Dallas in 1963, he and some of his detail had gone ahead to Austin, TX, which was to be JFK's next stop. He wrote a very good book about that time called 'The Kennedy Detail.'
You are absolutely dead wrong…this guy is Gerald Behn…give me a break. If you don’t know what you’re talking about you should keep your yap shut.
Thank for that info. I was wondering where he was on the day.
?? Why would he mis-say his own name?
Merv employed Johnny's brother Dick for about 30 years. Dick directed Merv's talk show as well as The Wheel of Fortune.
Merv was terrific as sub-host.
He was?
Both Merv Griffin's and Johnny Carson's talk shows debuted that same year; 1962.
Dina Merrill was a timeless beauty and the richest woman in the world of acting. REALLY REALLY rich heiress. She had a lot of sharp questions about ships - she was used to yachting.
I think she borders on rude. Terribly arrogant.
How about that! Two future talk show hosts on To Tell the Truth: Merv Griffin and Johnny Carson.
They all got "a fine box of gift products from Anacin". What...a case of aspirin?
Peas?
Well at least they had a first-line defense against depression😉
here are their current products:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyeth#Products
A lot better than Winstons!!
The real Agatha Johnson (mess boy) was quite the doll!
George Sauer was the father of George Sauer, Jr., one of the stars of the NY Jets' upset win in Super Bowl III. And the Jets were formerly known as the Titans.
George played for the Univ of Texas.
Merv Griffin was pleasant enough, but he's no Bud Collyer.
being himself... has/ had a 'way' , his own way... very charming.
they forgot to ask "With president Kennedy are you able to spot what might happen during a motorcade and take any precautions?"
Was Mr. Bain present on that fateful November day in 1963?
I was was wondering that two, then I saw the informative answer above.
Too as in also not two
That presidential bodyguard sure dropped the ball on Nov. 22, 1963,
that was all I could reflect on from the first moment.... alas
I was sitting here thinking the exact same thing.
Sauer must have doubled what he made that year with the appearance fee for this show.
The Titans were notorious for bouncing checks.
Was it my imagination, or did Merv get emotional about the whooping cranes?
Sounding to me like he found something funny.
There are now more than 800 whooping cranes.
Man #3 in Game #1
Lady #3 in Game #2
Man #1 in Game #3
21:32 Ca-chiiiing! reaction.
Bud Collyer takes time off from his hosting duties of TTTT far more often than John Daly did on WML. Does this indicate that Daly was far less willing to give up any level of control over the show, even for a week here or there? Or is it that Goodson and Todman thought that Daly contributed much more to the success of WML than Collyer did to the success of TTTT.
Daly certainly had more to do. Collyer is basically a timekeeper and an announcer who occasionally repeats something that a contestant or panelist didn't hear and from time to time adds a bon mot to the proceedings. Daly often had to help a challenger or mystery guest with whether a question should be answered "yes", "no", "sometimes", etc. And of course there were his lengthy explanations at times.
Keep in mind that Collyer also hosted the daytime version 5 days a week and likely needed more "time off" than Daly. It had nothing to do with Daly's willingness or unwillingness to give anything up. I think Goodson and Todman were very pleased indeed with Collyer or he wouldn't have lasted for all those years.
The plain and simple fact is that Bud Collyer suffered from health issues over most of his life, particularly toward the end. I think that's the explanation for some of his frequent absences.
When he was at ABC News, Daly would only take off from WML for news assignments. After he resigned from ABC in late 1961 he never had to miss a WML show.
@@Walterwhiterocks Are you aware the John Daly was one of the leading newscasters full-time?
@@sbalman Yes, until 1961. Collyer was on the air daily and once a week at night long after that. Thus my comment above.
Wow--less than two years later, this first guy's name was "mud". And given all the controversy surrounding the Kennedy assassination, it's, at the very least, "interesting" that this guy's last name sounds a lot like the middle name of Kennedy's successor. As for the third contestant: he really is a hero. Back then, they were excited they'd gotten the number of whooping cranes up above 40. Today, there are about 800 of them. They're still classified as endangered, but 800 is a whole lot better than 45. And long may these majestic birds reign!
Jack Paar would leave the "Tonight Show" in about a month at the end of March. Had Johnny Carson already been named as his replacement?
Very possibly. There was about six months of guest hosts on the Tonight Show while Johnny waited to be free of his ABC contract.
@@norelcopc2431 Yes, Johnny had been named by NBC at the end of January. They couldn't reach a deal to get him out of his ABC contract, so they had to wait until October 1st. On Paar's final Tonight Show he made some "insider" jokes about the situation between Carson and ABC.
I wonder if Gerald Baines was with the president a year later in Dallas.
What’s the “head”? The contestant response, “The “head” is where private business is conducted. Did she mean what I think she meant?
Wow. Sad to think how the presidential bodyguard would behave about a year and a half later in Dallas.
A great painter of birds, John James Audubon is the namesake for the Audubon Society.
FYI -- The Secret Service agent's name is spelled BEHN, not BAIN. :)
It's Blaine.
www.kennedydetail.com/gerald-blain.asp
It's confusing as one was Behn, and another one Blaine. (I think).
@@Gravydog316 No Behn. Two different agents. One was a regular SS white house detail agent who was in Dallas. The other was the Head of the White House Detail who was not in Dallas that day. Names are similar but not same person.
I wonder if Gerald Behn was in Dallas in November of '63?
Yes:
www.kennedydetail.com/gerald-blain.asp
TY for link. Very interesting.
TY kragseven
Apparently, he was the Special Agent in Charge of the entire White House detail until January, 1965, and was in Dallas with the President on the day of the assassination. He supported the Warren Commission report. He also seemed to me very evasive in a transcript of one of his interviews years later after being asked about the sheer number of women seen with the president. "I've never seen any of those women before in my life"-style responses.
@@Gravydog316 No. That was Gerald Blaine in Dallas. Gerald Bain (head of the White House Detail) was in Washington during that trip. www.jfklibrary.org/sites/default/files/archives/JFKOH/Behn,%20Gerald%20A/JFKOH-GAB-01/JFKOH-GAB-01-TR.pdf Names were similar but two different agents.
1) He didn't need to touch the banister.
Merv , you can't say that !!!!
I wonder if this was during the time when Kitty Carlisle was off due to the death of her husband, Moss Hart?
Yes that’s correct. She comes bac April of that year.
I just read Kitty Carlisle's autobiography and she had quite a life! Besides her regular career opportunities, she served for no pay on the council for the Arts of New York and most of that time she was the chairwoman...
Was Bane in Dallas?
As far as I can tell, no.
Nice job Gerald :/
I didn't like Polly Bergen, but I'm still curious as to why she left. Nobody said
She was the best , they always are jellous of the best !!!!
Polly had a hard edge to her that kept the proceedings from becoming too obsequious or soppy. She was kind of like a drier, more irritable version of Peggy Cass. Since I am rather dry and irritable myself, I rather liked Polly.
She went to do movies. They announced her departure on the last show she was on.
When was this in comparison to when Kennedy was assassinated?
I Googled it. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963
Merv wasn't Eva Gabor's "dahlink" yet.
I wonder if Merv was straight when this was filmed.
NOPE. He was never straight.
Married, but closeted.
Is Peggy wearing a wig ?????
Not sure, but she often does on this show.
That was kinda weird at 15:48 when the host just goes "she's mine" completely blank-faced, not laughing at all
He was referring to earlier when she said she was on the staff of a game show he hosted.
I knew it couldn't have been no. 1. Because he didn't know the Morse Code means SOS.
Actually the Morse code: dot dot dash dot is the letter F.
SOS is dot-dot-dot-dash-dash-dash-dot-dot-dot
Macau is the name of island.
I've noticed on these old TTTT shows, the panelists often are reading from notes (likely provided by a producer beforehand) when questioning the 3 guests. Of course, they may, and often do, use their own questions as well. The guests were probably also prepped and informed of the list and what questions COULD be asked. This would explained why some of the imposters are so well informed when answering... i.e. they well knew what MIGHT be asked by the celebrities.
The panelists were told what the GENERAL area of subject matter for the segments would be, 30 minutes before the show, so that they could prepare some questions. They weren't given the actual affidavits, or any specific details. But e.g., they would be told that a segment had to with opera singing, or jai alai, or whatever. They still had to come up with their own questions, and the guests weren't given the questions in advance. The notes the panelists are consulting are either the affidavit itself, or their list of questions from before the show started (plus which, any notes they made during another panelist's round.)
I appreciate your response, but I suspect that there existed a bit more collusion than either you nor I are aware of. @@totellthetruthcbs4220
@@totellthetruthcbs4220 I have seen episodes where the host instructs the panelist to open their envelopes and see the affidavits as he read aloud.
The only direct involvement of a producer in any episode TTTT was that of Willy Stein, who coached the imposters on important points regarding the exploits of the person they were impersonating. He did such a good job that the panelists often make note of that when they are revealing their votes. There are many times when the challengers completely skunk the panelists, proving what a good job Mr. Stein did. Also, you can see the panelists make reference to the affidavit or their own notes during the questioning of the challengers, and see them write down notes as the affidavit is being read by the moderator. Because of scandals involving 'Twenty One', 'Dotto', 'The $64,000 Question', and several others in the 1950s, game show producers became extremely scrupulous about keeping things completely above-board. You can see the effect in the 1970s version of 'The Match Game'. Since those scandals nearly destroyed the game show genre, producers avoided collusion like the plague.
Is #1 wearing a rather bad hair piece?
since he's balding, i would say no
Deana was so rude to secret service man
No she wasn't.ok?
But twenty-five years later Merv was going out with a certain glamorous blonde Hungarian named Eva Gabor.
It might have been a glamorous blonde he was .........with - but that was Ryan Seacrest
What a great response!
....does he know who killed kennedy 2 years later?
We all know! Lee Harvey Oswald..DUH
@@janeiwasduncan8463 - have another guess!
Johnny Carson and Merv on the same show. Wonder if the Secret Service Agent assigned to protect Kennedy got the boot nine months later.
Year and 9 months later
Merv looks stoned…
Nine months after this episode with Gerald Behn, head of the Secret Service, President Kennedy was assassinated.
That would have been Nov. 1962. Kennedy died a year later Nov 22 1963.
No. 1 in Game 2 has a gap in her teeth.
How is that relevant? Not being snide--just curious.
maremacd Just an observation, nothing more.
As long as we're being "superficial": In spite of the gap in her teeth, she was definitely the best-looking one of the three!
I heard she also has teeth in her gap.
LOL I'm glad I wasn't her man !
OK, JFK is the president I get it now, one big party.
Tom Poston always tried to be funny and usually failed miserably. He was always getting on Peggy's nerves, which, I think, is why they seated her all the way at the other end this time around.
It seemed like he was irritated all the time. He sort of replaced Polly as the Difficult and Attention Needy panelist
I like his gentlemanly style but strangely he often seems to loose himself in mid sentence.