Talib Kweli & Aida Rodriguez On 'Fighting Words,' Colorism, Cancel Culture | People's Party Full
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with comedian, actress, director, producer, writer, podcaster and activist:
AIDA RODRIGUEZ
Here's what we got into:
• The two comedians that she has drawn the most inspiration from.
• Love for conscious hip hop and her son knowing the words to 'Luchini.'
• Being teased over her name and embracing it after learning it's history.
• Colorism and nativism within black and latinx communities.
• Calling out those posing as agents of change, while failing to deliver.
• Tensions of Dominicans and Puerto Ricans rooted in white supremacy.
• The comedy event to raise funds for Puerto Rico's hurricane recoveries.
• Thanking Aida for not listening to those who told her not to do the interview.
• Why online hate she has experienced herself actually drives her.
• Aida's op-ed she wrote for the LA Times about her childhood.
• Advice for single mothers who aren't getting help from co-parents.
• An intense discussion with a guest on The Young Turks over abortion.
• The hypocrisy of those who critique her use of heavy topics.
• Being shamed over the dress she wore at 'Last Comic Standing.'
• Traveling to the Dominican Republic to spend time with her father.
• Her 'Fighting Words' special held at the food stamp building in the Bronx.
• Aida's work as a director for two episodes of 'Entre nos'.
• Highlighting the genius of Dominican comedian, Ian Lara.
• Showing love for Donald Glover and what he did with, 'Atlanta.'
• Being criticized online for her use of the term 'unhoused'.
• Breaking down her line of 'ain't nothing scarier than a d*ck you don't want'.
• Breaking down her line of 'men should have to own their own d*cks'.
• What's next for Aida Rodriguez.
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TIME STAMPS:
2:16 -- At the top of the show Aida brings up the two comedians that she has drawn the most inspiration from and how they always seem to appear on every comic's Mount Rushmore, no matter what generation. They go on to discuss how important life experiences are to any art, especially comedy, and the modern-day rush of artists trying to not be forgotten. They also get into the connections that Aida and Talib share, her love for conscious hip hop and her son knowing all the words for Camp-Lo's 'Luchini aka This Is It.'
6:54 -- Talib brings up his deep love for Puerto Rico and appreciation for how much Puerto Ricans have contributed to the culture. Aida is asked about her story of her grandmother's 38 special, and she goes on to talk about being teased over her name as a kid and embracing it after learning its history. They also discuss Aida being called an 'anchor baby' growing up. She breaks down the term, how she owns it and her father being deported even though she was born in Boston.
11:05 -- The new wave of the nativist, anti-black movement within the black community is brought up. Aida gets into her experiences traveling abroad and witnessing the suffering that people of color are subject to at every corner of the world. They discuss Aida's support for reparations not just in America but other countries as well, feeling pain witnessing the divisions within communities of color, and calling out those posing as agents of change, while failing to deliver on promises. They also get into the tensions between Dominicans and Puerto Ricans having its roots in white supremacy.
17:32 -- Aida goes on to talk about colorism within the Latinx community, how much she embraces the full roots of her heritage, and the history of darker skinned people from communities of color being pushed to the back. Journalist Rosa Clemente gets a shout-out and they go on to discuss the charity event that her and Aida are putting on at the Laugh Factory to raise funds for Puerto Rico's hurricane recoveries. They also talk about how the hurricanes have contributed to the new wave of gentrification going on in PR.
25:39 -- Talib brings up some people's view of him not being able to accept criticism as he goes on to thank Aida for not listening to those who urged her not to do this interview because he
"harasses black women." They discuss how colorism was the center point of the online dispute that the accusations stemmed from and how it came down to his feeling the need to defend his ex-wife, as well as the mother of his youngest child. Aida talks about how the new wave of online hate she has experienced herself actually drives her.
30:24 -- Aida's op-ed she wrote for the LA Times is brought up and she expands on her quote of, "By the time I was 6, I had been kidnapped twice - once by my mother, who took me from my father in the Dominican Republic, and then by my grandmother, who snatched me from New York to get me away from my mother’s boyfriend and took me to Miami. I had a young mom, so my grandmother pretty much raised me. My young uncles were running amok, and we all lived under the same roof. I knew too much to be just a kid."
34:46 -- Aida is asked if she has advice for single mothers who want to hold their co-parents accountable, while not damaging how the children perceive them. Aida breaks down her choosing not to talk badly about the father of her children and how it might affect their self-esteem. Jasmin goes on to talk about the struggles with her child's co-parent and Aida talks about the bitterness and resentment she experienced for years until her friend told her the day, she stops expecting a check is the day she'll be free.
40:15 -- Aida is asked about her experience being a journalist and commentator on The Young Turks online news show. They discuss a particularly eventful day on the show when she engaged in a back-and-forth with a conservative woman that stated, "if you love black people so much why don't you stop them from having abortions." Aida breaks down her feelings during that conversation with someone who clearly had no understanding of how these anti-abortion laws are so dangerous to communities of color.
45:13 -- Jasmin asks Aida if she can speak on any sexism and racism that she has experienced in comedy, and if she feels the job of the female comedian relies on being sexualized. Aida goes on to talk about how the most successful women in comedy have been the ones to never hold back and they get into the hypocrisy of those who critique her use of heavy topics, while at the same time praising George Carlin as a genius. She also talks about her experience of being publicly shamed for the yellow dress she wore during 'Last Comic Standing.'
52:40 -- Aida is asked about her experience of traveling to the Dominican Republic to spend time with her father for the first time in her life. She explores the heaviness of the moments there, being glad that she went despite others telling her it would be a mistake, and why she felt compelled to document the visit. They discuss some of the reasons for her real-life approach to comedy and how it's therapeutic. Aida breaks down why she chose to hold her special, 'Fighting Words' at the old food stamp building in the Bronx.
1:00:05 -- Aida's work as a director is brought up, shooting two episodes of 'Entre Nos' and she talks about how special that experience was for her. Aida talks about the genius of comedians like Ian Lara, Marcella Arguello, Ralph Barbosa, and Gwen La Roka. They also show love for Donald Glover and discuss his being a visionary in how he approached 'Atlanta,' giving others a hand-up. Aida then goes on to break down why, "It ain't no fun if the homies can't have none" is her favorite line in hip hop.
1:06:10 -- Aida is asked about the time she spent homeless as a single mother of two, while trying to make it in Hollywood. She goes on to talk about the online conversation she had with someone that criticized her use of the word "unhoused" to describe her situation and how she responded. Aida also breaks down her lines of 'ain't nothing scarier than a d*ck you don't want' and 'men should have to own their own d*cks' as she gives her take on the common denominator for the ills of society. In closing we hear what's next for Aida Rodriguez.
💪🏿Looking for the conversation which asks the Black and Brown people why we don't leave 💩🇺🇸💩america💩🇺🇸💩 and return to our native lands and build A DREAM VERSION OF LIFE there.🎯
🤷🏿♂️Don't we see that america is now a titanic waiting for the iceberg?😚
Taleeb Kuni is an opp to native black Americans. Aida is cool but anyone who deals with him gets the side eye #shill
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I am Puerto Rican and Dominican and this is the first time that I actually feel represented in this . The fact that hip hop brought this together brings joy. Thank you all for this 💜. And shout out to all my afro latinas and latinos and to all cultures!. 😭🧡🙏🏻, peace ✌
Aida Rodriguez is so hilarious and very intelligent. I love hearing her talking about her life and growing up as an Afro-Latina. I used to see her all the time on TYT. Her stand up is pretty good too. 👌🏾 ❤️
I appreciate the fact that she talks about racisms stepchild, colorism/anti-blackness, the way she does.
You can always count on Mrs.Aida to speak truth and facts💯❤️
As a professional comedian and outspoken Latino, I really appreciate this interview. I love what Aida said about the intersection of Black and Latino cultures. It is so refreshing to see an interview where the comedian is NOT trying to interject punchlines. It made me especially happy that she gave my homie Gwen LaRoka a shout out!
Jasmin I find it so beautiful that you're always on the verge of a smile. Your spirit is emanating
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Big facts. I been mad busy so my People's Party episodes been stockpiling, finally getting around to them. But you're so right. Jasmine's energy is so infectious and I wish that I had even half of the good vibe/aura that she does!
Aida IMHO, is a great conversationalist and a critical thinker of the highest order. So many guests on TPP speak with Talib but Jasmin sometimes seems to be 'the other person' . Not so with Aida.. she conversed with the room and gave Jasmin equal eye contact and airtime which was really nice to see. Great show, great topics and very insightful
I Grew up watching Richard Pryor and George Carlin, and to see Aida Rodriguez being as a fearless, outspoken and Hilarious genuine Beautiful Human Being just like those two Legends before her is an amazing gift to Have !! ❤
You gotta love Aida. First woman I have ever heard say she can’t bad mouth the man she had kids with because she chose him. Accountability. She talks the talk and walks the walk.
I've been saying that. DNA wise there is not a big difference between 🇵🇷 / 🇩🇴. Thank you for acknowledging that and saying it out loud because deep down 🇩🇴 and🇵🇷 know it's true.
I adore this woman so much
Aida is so wise! She is educating that young lady co-host.
I love when the passion for the craft comes out of artists. It's such a beautiful thing
LOVE AIDA!! SO WISE!
Aida Rodriguez is always dope. Salute!
This is a wonderful episode. I love her comedy but most Importantly all of the points she makes. Thank you.
I'll be showing up for you, Aida. I think you're brilliant
Absolutely wholesome and fulfilling interview.
I feel Aida’s grandma on the .38. It NEVER locks up. 😂
AIDA FOR PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD!!! I am team AIDA! Smart BRILLIANT, FUNNY, BEAUTIFUL… FAM!
A true Queen! Love you! Keep speaking the truth!
Fire interview!
As a Caribbean from UK I approve this message. That West Indian Flag foolishness. I know I'm an Awarak African colonised by the British born in London. I need to learn more.
Great job People's Party! She super dope!
Smart, beautiful, conscious and real. She’s amazing.
Love that energy!
Really great interview.
1ST WINNER GOD IS THE BEST ❤️ 🐏 🐊 love and happiness for all RAH
Talib always being like "I feel like other black people didn't watch this". I am the other black person who watched Community in this case my friend
It was an amazing show
I adore Aida Rodriguez because she is a truth sayer.❤
THE AIDA RODRIGUEZ 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Love Aida ❤️
“ The only papers they threw at you were Bounty “ wow. Let that sink in.
Totally Awesome
Ms. Rodriguez is not a joke. Rodriguez is full body tops, in what I see her do.
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New yorkers
Great conversation
mad respect for aida
Really dope interview
Wow, very nice show!
Jasmin lookin’ mighty good. 👀
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I like her cause she was truth
Let’s talk about the Haitian genocide in the Dominican republic
Hey Jasmin 👋🏾
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I love Aida I have been listening to her since back in the day when she used to go on the church what's happening now with Joey Diaz. The only thing I disagree with was about the way she states that comedy was set up for white men to do one-liners on late-night television. The originator of most modern comedy would have been Lenny Bruce who was a Jewish heroin addict from New York that was arrested countless times on obscenity charges and went to jail behind free speech. In his time there was no such thing as a comedy club it was a taboo thing that was only held at burlesque and strip clubs after hours in secret. The format for stand-up being for late-night television didn't come until years after that. And while he technically presents as a white man, Lenny Bruce was considered a minority in the time during the fifties and sixties when being a Jewish son of immigrants was not considered being "white". And the places where his comedy was seen were the furthest things from proper society. And the best representations of carrying that art in the same manner he did during and shortly after his time were Red Fox and Richard Pryor.
Roger Linn probably doesn’t want no part of it. That’s why sampling wasn’t part of the tempest and the linnstument has to be rigged to work with Ableton and often expressed hate for how rap/hip hop/ house / EDM used his machine outside the realm of just a drum machine capable of multiple textures . Me I’m presently on Maschine because of space restrictions but use IRs that were recommended and used religiously by ppl in the rock side of music who had to switch methods due to shrinking budgets. Which made it easier from when I used to volume match mpc sounds to raw recorded samples and redraw the dynamic and eq signature and save them as presets
"Let us L!LL them when they get here". WOW!
What Tension between PR and DR??? 😂 We're both brothers and sisters. What we do share is a Big Badeball rivalry and sports rivalry in general, a healthy rivalry. Aida Rodriguez, you're stretching the truth a bit too far! As for immigration, it's a real issue, but not based on hate. Puerto Rico is not anti black.. PR is anti Gentrification, anti erasing our Cultural Identity. Puerto Ricans are not North Americans, we are part of the fabric of Latin America. That's not to say racism doesn't exist, because racism exist all over the world.
Victim Olympics gold medalist
yo! enjoyed-what a professional ,see u aroundm,an, =)
It worked that's when I hit like haha #1345miles
Let go💨💨💨
#realtalk
That whole rant about colonizing yet she still says “belong to us” about Haiti 🤦🏽♂️
She glossed over the anti blackness of Caribbeans, specifically the white identifying Puerto Ricans. She rolled right over that!
Her obvious shot at Tariq Nasheed was weak. She confirmed everything he talks about!
@Rome go to "Fckery" on UA-cam with Leslie Jones. She does not gloss over this subject there. She CLEARLY talks about it.
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She is Front and Center
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Of course, she was forced to get on Child Support. How convenient?
cool
How convenient for her to claim Malcolm X as Caribbean? They all pull plays from the same playbook.
@@DarrylCrews Yes, but his father was black American. Stop mentioning one half of his lineage, as a way to devalue his black American upbringing. Anyway, I personally know Caribbeans did not always claim Malcolm X. They only claim him to justify their treachery against black Americans.
@@DarrylCrews For one, you will probably never know how I feel. You're an absolute stranger. You don't matter. You're insignificant to me. For two, I am also from a blended family, or rather of bi-ethnic lineage--half black American and half black immigrant. That's how I know what I know. I have a full black immigrant sibling who still reminisces over the humiliation they felt over walking in public with me while I wore my airbrushed T-shirt of Malcolm X's face. I, too, claim all aspects of my lineage. But, you know what? I won't let one half of my lineage disparage the other half of my lineage, both overtly and covertly. And, honestly? Black immigrants betray black Americans in the Northeast today. They know this. I know this. We all know this. That is why Aida follows the same strategy to claim Malcolm to dismiss black America's valid complaints. It's an old trick out of an old playbook. Lastly, tell whoever needs to hear this, black Americans will no longer accept the old "Police See Us All As Black" scam. No, police officers in the Northeast, particularly NYC--where there's a huge concentration of black immigrants--can usually tell the difference between black Americans and black immigrants. We could always tell the difference between each other. So, do you think WYT Americans wouldn't adapt to the obvious physical differences between black immigrants and black Americans? And whenever it is not obvious, black immigrants usually put their home country's flag either on their rearview mirror, their back or side window, or their car's bumper. They know the cheat codes. That's also why, no matter how long they've been in America, they will maintain their accents and mispronunciations. So, guess what? The jig is up. I can tell you from my experience, all black immigrants need to do is apologize, and then we can move on to renegotiating our social contract. It happened in the 70s. It happened in the 80s. It happened in the 90s. And now, we need to find common ground today. But, honestly? I don't totally blame black immigrants for our current situation. I also blame black Americans for offering too many concessions for sex, fun, and drugs.
Malcolm X was born in America and his father was a Black American. Malcolm identified as Black.
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I know this. And? Whats your point?
Minister farrakan is of Caribbean origin as well
Of course, she had a gay Hispanic uncle.
And I knew Jasmine was Jamaican. Thats why shes such a misandrist. Her Caribbean culture is very matriarchal. Thats why she agrees with a man earning what hes born with.
Two Caribbean can’t speak for our reparations
She knows so much about being black but she not black. Malcolm not Caribbean just erase his dad and his family !
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.FAKE AS FAKE COULD GET. 😅😅😅😅😅
And your only telling one side of the story 😮
Stoooooppppp we don't go as bad as she's talking. Love Aida but stop this image and perspective
14:56 she made a very ignorant statement.
Why you think it’s ignorant ?
Saying that your native tongue is Arawak/Taino and not Spanish or English.
One has got to understand and respect history as it happened to accept yourself. She fails to understand that Taino people were not her only ancestors. Yearning Taino culture and language as if that is your authentic and true culture after hundreds of years of its demise is ignorant.
That’s why we have museums in DR in remembrance to the culture and contributions of the Taino people. Many traditions we retain and are aware they come from the Taino people. However our identity has been forged by other 2 more groups of people, Africans and the Spanish and we acknowledge Spanish as the core of our culture and identity. We’re Hispanics first, everything else comes second.
@@emarte sounds about white.
And I thought Jasmine was a Lesbian. So, how does she have a baby daddy?
You ok?
@@elostatik Yes. Are you?
Talib kweli I regret to say, that your podcast is falling off bro
Yooo....this is the most insecure dude in Hip-Hop. I just want it to be known. This guy has a serious problem, and I think I know what it is. He's weird af. Lol.
then the question begs to be asked.......why are you here?
@@rfrancois1707 To say exactly that. Thanks for listening, too! 👋🏾😉
I think you need to look up the definition of "insecure" in the dictionary.
@@JahRandom Why, is his picture there, too? 👋🏾🤣
Marry before you carry.