“This is from Jehovah, NOT the Governing Body.” | Sunday Service ft.

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  • You know the creepy talk where Samuel Herd says “yeah 😈” in a creepy voice? Well, full disclosure, I never watched the full talk. And it turns out the full talk is the nuttiest gosh damn thing on jay double you dot org
    The talk in question: www.jw.org/en/...
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  • @lukaj679
    @lukaj679 7 місяців тому +64

    I didn't grow up a Witness but I did grow up Seventh-day Adventist so it feels like hearing about distant relatives whenever I watch your videos. I also got a lot of doomsday sermons 🙃 Your content has been keeping me company and making me feel less alone for a while now, thank you.

    • @hittsrus5185
      @hittsrus5185 3 місяці тому +1

      I feel the same way as an ex Mormon

    • @bmo5082
      @bmo5082 Місяць тому +3

      As an inactive Mormon, I am feeling/seeing some very strange similarities between JW and Mormonism.

  • @ExJwMJ
    @ExJwMJ 7 місяців тому +38

    It won’t be long til they change prayers to, “in the governing body’s name we pray, amen.”

    • @brightsky5586
      @brightsky5586 7 місяців тому +1

      😂😂

    • @darlenegb5857
      @darlenegb5857 7 місяців тому +1

      💯💯💯💯

    • @GD-oz7uy
      @GD-oz7uy 7 місяців тому +1

      Yep. And all the goats will go along with it 😂

  • @Marlodrama
    @Marlodrama 7 місяців тому +25

    Never witness here! My sister grew up in a high control religion so your videos are so interesting to me. Thanks for having just a cool personality and making these videos!

  • @alannaandersons619
    @alannaandersons619 7 місяців тому +22

    My aunt tried to talk me back into going back to the meetings, she said they have some "new light"
    I asked her how do they come up with new light with a 2000 year old book??? She hung up on me and i haven't heard from her since

  • @2cheapchicchicks628
    @2cheapchicchicks628 7 місяців тому +6

    One of my most traumatic memories of growing up as a witness was a conversation with my dad. I was 8 years old, and my dad thought that during the great tribulation, witness would basically be put in concentration camps. He was describing what it would be like and went on to tell me that I would probably be raped. My father had his own issues with mental illness, but also, what a crazy religion.

  • @9eyeswideopen
    @9eyeswideopen 4 дні тому +2

    I served for over 65 years and it was the new light that shone a bright light on The Truth which I loved and defended but sadly my eyes have been opened

  • @jonfreeman7486
    @jonfreeman7486 5 місяців тому +3

    Recovering witness here. Loving your videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @jmars309
    @jmars309 7 місяців тому +20

    Crazy now they claim " God" told them . 😮

    • @TCrouch2596
      @TCrouch2596 7 місяців тому

      No proof,never happened.

    • @Ms.blu3
      @Ms.blu3 7 місяців тому +13

      That would be so presumptuous of them 😅

    • @SunguchMan20
      @SunguchMan20 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Ms.blu3 Right??😂😂😂 How dumb they must think people are. The audacity!😅

  • @EmilySolem-Davis
    @EmilySolem-Davis 7 місяців тому +16

    This talk was definitely weird, but Herd has always been off his rocker anyways.

  • @Mr.Wonderful-ny9dn
    @Mr.Wonderful-ny9dn 7 місяців тому +6

    The Jehovah's Witnesses told my parents when they were in their youth, that they were never going to die and live in paradise on earth with friendly lions and tigers. They served the Watchtower for 60 years, and both are dead as doornails. What a waste of life.

  • @TeethSink
    @TeethSink 7 місяців тому +24

    Never been a witness but I've been educating myself about the organisation for the last 9 months or so. We had a couple come to the house and I got curious about what they actually believe. Currently listening to crisis of conscious.

    • @c.runpixierun2537
      @c.runpixierun2537 7 місяців тому +5

      What they tell the public about their doctrines and beliefs is very very different from what they teach and demand of their members. It is a cult.

    • @Letts_prey
      @Letts_prey 7 місяців тому

      What current members are blissfully unaware of, is their dubious past, because that varies from whitewashed to swept under the rug.

    • @TeethSink
      @TeethSink 7 місяців тому +1

      @@c.runpixierun2537 I see groups stood by little stands in town at the weekends, I never get approached, but I'm assuming it's because I wear alot of black and have a beard. It would be interesting to talk to them though.

    • @alyssapatmore2747
      @alyssapatmore2747 2 місяці тому +1

      Let them study with you a couple times and it gets super cringe!🤢

    • @derekmaverick5986
      @derekmaverick5986 Місяць тому +1

      @@TeethSinkthey don’t really approach anymore. I remember being far more aggressive when I was a regular pioneer, but I think the decrease in ministry hours also dampened the enthusiasm

  • @purplepanda7349
    @purplepanda7349 7 місяців тому +3

    Ex JW here, born in and still needing therapy after leaving what feels like a lifetime ago! I have watched several Ex JW UA-camrs and you are reasonable, researched and entertaining! My 'simple' answer to this complex issue is that all this is coming from writings that are translations of translations of translations, done over different time periods. Language is a living and changing entity. As such, none of the Truth can be assumed to be true. We must examine all of the lenses, which I think that you do. Yes, you ramble at times and are snarky, so what! Keep being you and doing your research and folks (instead of guys :-) will keep on watching!

  • @John-rc2fn
    @John-rc2fn 7 місяців тому +6

    Well their adjustments are actually so detailed and technical that it even confuses the brothers of Christ. Wow I'm soooo glad we have this governing body to keep us informed. What would we do without them. I shutter to think......

  • @kiarasupreme3552
    @kiarasupreme3552 7 місяців тому +7

    five stars ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐.
    will watch again.

  • @extremelylargeslug4438
    @extremelylargeslug4438 7 місяців тому +6

    Big fan of both the videos and livestreams

  • @rccollins2685
    @rccollins2685 7 місяців тому +6

    Your video on the Mason conspiracy theory is very good. I encourage people to watch it , so that they can guard themselves against nonsense. Also, Jake did a great job on editing it

  • @helenr4300
    @helenr4300 7 місяців тому +10

    'no weapon against us will prosper'
    Shh don't mention CSA
    Norway
    Spain
    .....

    • @ladyflea3105
      @ladyflea3105 7 місяців тому

      Or Japan or the internet 😂

  • @finnguy9096
    @finnguy9096 7 місяців тому +8

    33:48 Having studied Church history closely, these talking points are so bizarre. We don't have the slightest idea of what happened to John the son of Zebedee in his later life other than Church legends (from the Apostate Church btw). And it's painfully clear that the unschooled fisherman from Galilee didn't know Greek or how to write, yet the Gospel is the most philosophical, elite sounding book in the NT. It's easy to argue that this book, along with many of the last books of the Canon, already show a major shift from Jesus' and Paul's apocalyptic, doomsday message and informal church structure. We are also quite certain that the John (a very common name) who wrote Revelation wasn't the same person who wrote the other Books, because of his crude Greek and different style. And we know the Biblical Canon was hotly contested in the following centuries, especially books like 2 and 3 John and Revelation partly because of their obscure origins. The final form of the canon was ironed out and copied by the "Apostate" church. Without them, we would have no Bible. So get off your high horse and read a book that isn't from the 19th century for once!

  • @dawitcher8748
    @dawitcher8748 7 місяців тому +2

    Awkward silence super cut!! Awkward silence super cut!!

  • @Narcissism_101
    @Narcissism_101 6 місяців тому +1

    “We see ourselves as:
    Guardians
    Of
    Our
    Doctrine.”
    -Geffory Jackson testifying at the Australian Royal Commission on the topic of institutional CSA. in 2015.
    Remember kids: No one is GOOD but GOD.

  • @SunguchMan20
    @SunguchMan20 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Jake! Keep exposing these conmen.

  • @ItsAllAShow
    @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому +5

    Jake people are just really frustrated with comments being removed by social media AI and such and all of the ridiculous censorship that has been going on the past 4 years and you are getting some of the frustration coming at you. That is all that it is. People are OVER IT at this point.

  • @mpidesignbranding5602
    @mpidesignbranding5602 7 місяців тому +5

    I don't agree with Jehovah witnesses. I don't believe in the Jehovah of the Jehovah witnesses. I don't like the Governing Body. They are hilarious and senseless. Don't fall into their loving traps, frames, and mind control. SERVE JESUS. SERVE THE HOLY TRINITY, IN JESUS NAME. AMEN.

    • @matei9k
      @matei9k 13 днів тому

      What? I don't even understand how POMO ex-Witnesses can go to trinitarian Christianity. But anyway, religion is bullshit.

  • @anthonymeech5030
    @anthonymeech5030 7 місяців тому +9

    Marty , you gotta get back to 1975 !! Herd's pulling wings off flies again!!

  • @John-rc2fn
    @John-rc2fn 7 місяців тому +8

    Humm.....I would have thought that Jesus would have spoke to him. Since Jesus told his apostles that all authority had been given to him in heaven and earth. They for some reason don't like to mention Jesus. I guess they don't need him anymore. Humm?

    • @mattmurdock2868
      @mattmurdock2868 7 місяців тому +2

      The governing body is "Jehovah."

    • @OldDocSilver
      @OldDocSilver 6 місяців тому

      God being perfect cannot connect to anything unclean.
      That’s the whole purpose of the Ransom. Christ is now the mediator. For anyone to say “Jehovah” spoke to me is putting themselves on the same level as Christ.
      That’s blasphemous and downright disgustingly haughty!

    • @OldDocSilver
      @OldDocSilver 6 місяців тому

      Who in their right mind and in all humility would call their Heavenly Father by his first name. Jesus taught us to use the childlike term “father” for a reason.
      These haughty egotistical, flesh and blood humans really think they’re special because they are after all “Jehovah’s” witnesses not “Jesus’s” witnesses. They’ve jumped a whole level higher than any other Christian on earth by self proclaiming themselves super Christian’s who are on a first name basis with God. ….hmmmmmmmmm! 2Corinthians 11: 5. Philippians 2:3-11

    • @mattmurdock2868
      @mattmurdock2868 6 місяців тому +1

      @@OldDocSilver
      They call themselves G.O.D.
      Yes they are SELF appointed "Guardians Of Doctrine."
      In your face, we are GOD.

  • @Letts_prey
    @Letts_prey 7 місяців тому +2

    The “first thing they’ll do is fight” unfounded claim of Herd’s, comes from the harbouring of animosity that people like that have for those who aren’t taken in by their weird belief systems that have no evidence or grounding in reality.

  • @Tsukaidevile
    @Tsukaidevile 7 місяців тому +1

    1:42:41 “Believe me, we can and will do . . . Jesus Christ.”
    Man, that accidental skip is incredible hahaha.
    It’s almost like poetry. “We can and will do Jesus Christ, spirit creatures, in Heaven. We will be mighty, immoral spirit creatures.”
    “Wow.”

  • @laurakassama9092
    @laurakassama9092 21 день тому +1

    Keep up the great work!

  • @rachelanthony179
    @rachelanthony179 7 місяців тому +2

    I saw sam herd at an international convention in 2014. I actually thought he was the best thing since sliced bread at the time 😮😂

  • @timovesterinen3611
    @timovesterinen3611 6 місяців тому +1

    It's interesting to notice that the only actual difference between the Governing body of Jws and that of the Mormons, is that the LDS church just doesn't use that term, but instead speaks about apostles and prophets ruling their church. Mormons also have the concept of the "New Light", just without that specific reference to Proverbs 4:18. One of the most famous of these new "revelations" was the removal of the ban for black people to be allowed to go inside their temples and getting the priesthood, in 1978.
    Actually, in a sense, they are more Biblical in this issue, if you will: As Ephesians 4:11, when speaking about various spiritual callings, it does mention apostles and prophets. But, does it tell us that one of these callings is just being "a member of the faithful and discreet slave aka. the Governing body"? As far as I recall, such offices are nowhere to have been mentioned in the Greek scriptures. The members of the highest rank were the apostles. But, while the LDS do admit, they are being led by apostles, so why don't JWs do the same? Because LDS officially believe in continuing revelation, which God gives to these guys on the regular basis. So, they are officially "inspired".
    JWs on the other hand, simultaneously deny and accept the doctrine of on-going revelation(in Orwellian way), because the canon of the Scriptures is officially closed, but meanwhile, they totally accept the Apostolic role of the GB, demanding from the witnesses the same 100% obedience and acceptance of their words, ( if not even more strictly as the apostles did in many instanses in the first century!) as the first century apostles did, albeit without ever admitting it or saying it aloud. The GB, indeed, has been "appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time". as it regularly gets new light and understanding as to correct possibly former erroneous doctrines and policies, doesn't it?
    "-But they aren't inspired!?"
    If they are THE Channel for getting new doctrines and spiritual information/-food from Jehovah God, today, isn't that exactly what the word "inspired" means? why do they want to distance themselves from that "inspired" aspect? -Because, while they don't want to carry the responsibility of being "truly inspired" in the Org.'s doctrinal flip-flops and false prophecies, they still want to keep that unquestionable position of honor and power, by claiming to be "THE only channel" Btw, it's kind of funny that while LDS leaders have always been called prophets and apostles by their Church, and they also have changed many of their doctrines pretty much like the WTS, they are and always have been said to be inspired. They just aren't "infallible". 😅
    (English isn't my first language, so apologies for funny word choices and sentence structures..) "

  • @freelygiven6638
    @freelygiven6638 6 місяців тому +1

    When was the first time that followers of (Christ /the Bible, Jehovah) , referred to as publishers, more so as unbaptized publishers??? We heard that it was in Antioch that they were first called Christian??? Interesting 🤔

  • @monikal.7998
    @monikal.7998 4 місяці тому +1

    I spoke to Jehovah just now and he told me that this GB guy is a scammer 😜

  • @truthfirst8747
    @truthfirst8747 6 місяців тому +1

    Everyone, please take in mind that the video/content is viewed by the WORLD - many English paraphrases are not the same, so when i view the 'Chat' some comments are very ungracious.

  • @johnroemeeks_apologetics
    @johnroemeeks_apologetics 6 місяців тому +1

    They have never received a message from God, other than the Bible where it tells them to repent!

  • @90zuk4
    @90zuk4 7 місяців тому +1

    Never witness. Highly interested in what makes the organization tick. And why the beliefs are the way they are.

  • @brentmay4271
    @brentmay4271 6 місяців тому +1

    The masonic ring comes in many styles. If they aren't doing Gods will it only goes one other way for wills.

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  6 місяців тому

      literally cult thinking. “You’re either working for the Freemasons’ will or against it.”

  • @ItsAllAShow
    @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому +3

    You should take it as a compliment Jake that people use your stuff to share. Who really cares? We are all on the same side right? Sharing is CARING.

  • @ddsgabo
    @ddsgabo 7 місяців тому +3

    i like your channel; but, yeah, way too many interruptions. There's very little continuity.

  • @helenr4300
    @helenr4300 7 місяців тому +2

    At the time I wondered if it was preparing people for a non anointed GB - but then 'overlapping generations'
    The presumption that after Apostle John died they could not be any true worship is bizarre. Even other restorational arguments claim a remnant.
    Yes it means that the New Testament is a result of that apostasy, yet they quote it in their teaching?

  • @murph8411
    @murph8411 7 місяців тому

    Don’t let the shadow stripes hit you or you may start having patchy offspring. Jacob should have used Venetian blinds!

  • @Xoxo-mh9zr
    @Xoxo-mh9zr 7 місяців тому

    The fact that they are reading off cue cards is extremely NON convincing. Can't even pretend to be convinced in their own lies. Ugh

  • @Frogmoodparty
    @Frogmoodparty 7 місяців тому +2

    WHAT?!?

  • @davidfitnesstech
    @davidfitnesstech 6 місяців тому

    How does the governing body determine what has come from their *own minds..* and what has come from a *mystical, invisible, celestial father, creator ?*
    Or does their all powerful creator father *control their minds ?*
    Or merely influence their minds ?
    This 'belief' stuff is really odd.

  • @patriciapitt4228
    @patriciapitt4228 7 місяців тому

    The Anĝeĺs are saying! GO GET THEM BOYS 😊

  • @ItsAllAShow
    @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому +4

    There ARE subliminal messages in Watchtowers literature. It's all over the place.

  • @ItsAllAShow
    @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому

    I know you are not deleting comments. Again I believe that is YT that is doing that. It happens ALL the time everywhere on UA-cam.

  • @robinkish-miller2990
    @robinkish-miller2990 7 місяців тому +1

    So they have a direct channel from God??????

    • @joanthompson4559
      @joanthompson4559 7 місяців тому +1

      We All do. It's called prayer. In Jesus's name. Jesus,the only mediator between God and man.

  • @wisechoice1319
    @wisechoice1319 6 місяців тому

    This dude look like Granpa Munster

  • @Ms.blu3
    @Ms.blu3 7 місяців тому

    Ex-cathedra lol like ex machina is wild asf 😅
    At least that's what I thought it meant

  • @joepublisher166
    @joepublisher166 7 місяців тому

    Did Herd really say this? OMG!!!

  • @MrMorph65
    @MrMorph65 6 місяців тому

    My question is, do you still serve jehovah outside of your organization? please respond.

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  6 місяців тому +2

      well Jehovah doesn’t exist, so no

  • @helenr4300
    @helenr4300 7 місяців тому

    was the 'letters to GB a different video?

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  7 місяців тому +1

      We end up finding it, it’s the same video!

    • @helenr4300
      @helenr4300 7 місяців тому

      @@altworldly Yep got their in the stream - but past sleep time so didn't come to edit

  • @ItsAllAShow
    @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому +1

    And to answer your question, Watchtower can DO IT and put symbolism out in the open on their books and publications BECAUSE their rank and file members are NOT allowed to ask questions and they blindly follow. Also a LOT of people don't understand these connections and do not realize it. Also subliminal messaging is meant to be hard to see. That is why it's SUBLIMINAL. Duh....lol

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  7 місяців тому +1

      Why would they do it at all? What do they have to gain by putting visual breadcrumbs for people to follow?

    • @ItsAllAShow
      @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому

      @@altworldly That is like asking why a sociopath does what they do? Because they are sociopaths. Sick F*CKS. And they get off on it. Duh. Sick people are in the world and Watchtower has sickos running it. It’s not rocket science here.

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  7 місяців тому

      lol ok I’m done with you. “They’re crazy, so it doesn’t have to make sense!” Well that’s awful convenient, isn’t it. You never have to justify your beliefs logically, but I have to believe that there are hidden messages in CULT PROPAGANDA. You realize the purpose of cult propaganda is to NOT be subtle, right? Why would they need subliminal messages? The stuff that’s crazy about WT is right there on the page and in the pictures.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 7 місяців тому

      ​@@altworldlyJesus Christ sent all of you to preach about the Jw's or satan the devil sent all of you to preach about the Jw's???????

    • @ItsAllAShow
      @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому

      @@altworldly There is no logic in illogical people. You can't find logic in every little thing because sometimes it's just not there. There is not an answer for every little thing in life but there are a bunch of QUESTIONS about things that go on in life. Questions that usually can not be answered unless you are able to fly in a rocket and to the moon yourself OR go back in a time machine to verify. Most things are speculative. Life is not black and white Jake. There is a lot of grey area. And it's logical to REALIZE this. Your thinking is completely illogical to me in this area. We will have to agree to disagree on this. Otherwise we will go around in circles for days....lol

  • @marwatson7408
    @marwatson7408 6 місяців тому

    The BullFrog 🐸 ( Herd) is talking again give us a break.🙄🙄🙄

  • @silvijuly3754
    @silvijuly3754 7 місяців тому +4

    You talk way too much, I guess you have lots of free time in your hands. Get to the point and do not waste people time.

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  7 місяців тому +13

      the point IS to talk a lot

    • @Altwifey
      @Altwifey 7 місяців тому +13

      If you want to watch people stare at each other and not talk, just sit in front of a mirror and look at yourself. Problem solved! And you won’t have to make dumb comments on COMMENTARY UA-cam videos.

    • @lukaj679
      @lukaj679 7 місяців тому +6

      You commented the same thing 3 months ago but came back for more 🤔

    • @matthewjoseph6912
      @matthewjoseph6912 7 місяців тому

      Smoke a j and shut up. Maybe speak to Jehovahs instead, real quiet and no interruptions there…🤡🤡🤡

    • @squidyinkydink
      @squidyinkydink 7 місяців тому +1

      Shhhh quit talking. I’m trying to watch this.

  • @jolinamaitland0356
    @jolinamaitland0356 7 місяців тому

    Wally > altworldly

  • @SilverSaxMax
    @SilverSaxMax 7 місяців тому

    Your channel would be so much more successful if you would end the needless blabbing - it’s like you are trying by funny and cute but I hate to say - you’re not. Listening to you and your buddy go on and on - is like listening to 100 5 year olds speak at once.
    Unless your annoying interruptions are inspired by old Beevis and Butthead episodes, you’ve missed the entire point of creating an effective ex-JW channel.

    • @altworldly
      @altworldly  7 місяців тому +2

      sir if I didn’t know any better I’d say you were trying to hurt my feelings

    • @Letts_prey
      @Letts_prey 7 місяців тому +3

      “Trying to be funny”?
      Correction, he is funny.

    • @ItsAllAShow
      @ItsAllAShow 7 місяців тому

      What’s even more pointless is his political views that he spews. It’s not necessary. Stick to the point of the channel. But yet he would rather argue about free masons and carry on about fringe people like Alex Jones & bring up Trump nonsense. He would be more successful if he stopped doing that. But he won’t listen…😆

  • @frankc-k3q
    @frankc-k3q 6 місяців тому

    That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. - John 5:23