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  • @theghettoracle
    @theghettoracle 6 місяців тому +874

    I be feeling bad for Ernie😂All he wanted to know was how many MVP's will Luka win in his entire career.
    Chuck went on a whole rant about the current MVP race🤣

    • @cader350
      @cader350 6 місяців тому +67

      Chuck doesn’t listen to questions 😂😂😂

    • @TheBlackSands
      @TheBlackSands 6 місяців тому +3

      I dont because it was a trick rascist inappropriate question to start with we are not choosing your race over ares ever .

    • @StarryNight4024
      @StarryNight4024 6 місяців тому +40

      Luka has been the early MVP favorite the last 5 years and still hasn't won 😂

    • @robert-h2x
      @robert-h2x 6 місяців тому +7

      chuck is talking about mavs aint a powerhouse which is why he wouldnt have mvps.

    • @autogamezz9999
      @autogamezz9999 6 місяців тому +22

      @@TheBlackSandsseek therapy

  • @GeauxDoe
    @GeauxDoe 6 місяців тому +150

    Chuck: “We don’t vote for MVP”
    Ernie: “I do”

  • @khalilcruz5816
    @khalilcruz5816 6 місяців тому +301

    Shaq the only one answered the question. The other two didn’t answer Ernie lol

    • @mexreax4493
      @mexreax4493 6 місяців тому +8

      Its always like that

    • @thundercats2004
      @thundercats2004 6 місяців тому +12

      And I agreed with Shaq's answer. At some point Luka will win an MVP, or at least he should. But it won't be this year

    • @loststoryproductions
      @loststoryproductions 6 місяців тому +1

      One! Lol

    • @jumpinjohnnyruss
      @jumpinjohnnyruss 6 місяців тому +4

      If these guys made more sense, they'd be less entertaining.

    • @khalilcruz5816
      @khalilcruz5816 6 місяців тому

      @@jumpinjohnnyruss this is true lol alot of dumb people like stuff that’s confusing or don’t make sense lol on the internet. I mean chuck says dumb shi all the time and they love him to death 💀

  • @smoshuser123
    @smoshuser123 6 місяців тому +279

    Ernie’s casual “I do!” When Kenny said they don’t vote for mvp slid way too under the rug

    • @kolydeshop5864
      @kolydeshop5864 6 місяців тому +12

      Ernie is a sly guy

    • @BboyZoinks
      @BboyZoinks 6 місяців тому +16

      🤣🤣
      The god father

    • @SEHLENREISE
      @SEHLENREISE 6 місяців тому +1

      i heard it loud and clear - godfather

    • @mikewill4839
      @mikewill4839 6 місяців тому +1

      Ernie had something to do with that nash mvp vote 😂

  • @QMS9224
    @QMS9224 6 місяців тому +618

    Shaq still salty steve nash lives rent free in his head 😂😂😂

    • @AHMAD-2324
      @AHMAD-2324 6 місяців тому +20

      BOISTOP Steve Nash couldn't carry Shaq's jockstrap.

    • @harderway8568
      @harderway8568 6 місяців тому +12

      No, Shaq's absolutely right. Joker got the MVP, deservedly so, while the Nuggets ended 6th. Curry's carrying a bunch of random guys and is playing some really great basketball, but won't be in any conversations because the GSW are simply trash. Antman and SGA are wonderful of course, but I don't put them over Luka. This year yes, but overall - no.

    • @adeadele-nz6xt
      @adeadele-nz6xt 6 місяців тому +30

      ​@@harderway8568yall stop with the curry carrying BS hes no where near mvp convo this year . Joker, sga, tatum , luka one of dis 4 guys winning mvp

    • @jbaruman272
      @jbaruman272 6 місяців тому +1

      THIS

    • @wayneegli8379
      @wayneegli8379 6 місяців тому +6

      Nash deserved 1 of his 2 MVPs (2005 for 2004-2005 season). Kobe deserved it in 2006 but was still on double secret probation for his 2003 indiscretion. Shaq deserved MVP in 2001 and 2002 (he was MVP in 2000). Nobody was stopping Shaq from 1999-2002.

  • @morganlee2806
    @morganlee2806 6 місяців тому +96

    Ernie was asking a very simple question.😂

  • @ntrong32
    @ntrong32 6 місяців тому +87

    Shaq's the only one that understood the question. What a time to be alive.

  • @waltz9530
    @waltz9530 6 місяців тому +401

    Luka has officially become underrated

    • @thialhoinj1971
      @thialhoinj1971 6 місяців тому +2

      Facts

    • @hackrjack
      @hackrjack 6 місяців тому +52

      Cant play defense. And theyre asking this loaded question about him winning multiple mvps, thats not underrated at all.

    • @leonhardable
      @leonhardable 6 місяців тому +35

      ​@@hackrjackwhat a surprise, the man with the suns pfp is a full on casual that hasnt watched a game this season
      truly a miracle

    • @blicleak1101
      @blicleak1101 6 місяців тому +25

      @@hackrjackof all people you speak about Luka after what he DID to you? That was probably the worst defeat in NBA history

    • @justtimes9257
      @justtimes9257 6 місяців тому +2

      how so everyone call him a top 5 player

  • @MarkPerchatsch
    @MarkPerchatsch 6 місяців тому +184

    Mavs are probably a 30-52 team without Luka Doncic. I don’t think any player in the league is more important to their teams success right now.

    • @Jordan-lg7xx
      @Jordan-lg7xx 6 місяців тому +15

      Maybe jokic but that's about it

    • @joemilo2710
      @joemilo2710 6 місяців тому +28

      Jokic is definitely the most impactful and important player because it's been proven every season that without Jokic on the floor Nuggets are the worst team in NBA history, not just now!

    • @lukasklein5230
      @lukasklein5230 6 місяців тому +3

      I agree, without Luka Mavs are right down there with the spurs, hornets and wizards...also it doesn´t make sense to look too close on the team records, because a good team records means often a good team effort, it doesn´t tell you how valuable a single player for the team is

    • @malusintsele
      @malusintsele 6 місяців тому +1

      Jokic and Embiid

    • @MoonIronTR
      @MoonIronTR 6 місяців тому +6

      embiid was leading 76ers to 3rd seed now they are 9-19 without him

  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks 6 місяців тому +227

    Multiple MVP’s. Luka is a special talent.

    • @davidgaskins2589
      @davidgaskins2589 6 місяців тому +27

      7th seed this year.. no playoffs last year

    • @icydaddy
      @icydaddy 6 місяців тому +12

      @@davidgaskins2589 what year did jokic win his first ring?

    • @StarryNight4024
      @StarryNight4024 6 місяців тому +1

      How is he going to win when he is always predicted to win but doesn't because he can't lead his team out of the West?

    • @aliali-ce3yf
      @aliali-ce3yf 6 місяців тому +20

      1 MVP , he's the white James Harden.

    • @TheBlackSands
      @TheBlackSands 6 місяців тому +1

      Ant man is a special talent wemby is a special talent stranger 👍💯

  • @SteveStevenson-ux8sr
    @SteveStevenson-ux8sr 6 місяців тому +157

    say what you want about shaq as an analyst but he's always been spot on about the mvp discourse, absolutely ridiculous how much the voters value team success over actual individual performance.

    • @MaldingMan13
      @MaldingMan13 6 місяців тому +8

      tho hes definitely wrong about just 1. Luka will win multiple mvp awards. dude can go out and average 35 a night and near a triple double. IMHO he should be the mvp right behind Jokic, with SGA and tatum right there too. Shaq dont know that Ant Edwards is a better 2 way player than Luka tho and people need to put some respec on his name lol

    • @Neofilmcritic
      @Neofilmcritic 6 місяців тому +47

      That’s the dumbest idea ever. You are not a valuable player if your team is bad

    • @StarryNight4024
      @StarryNight4024 6 місяців тому +20

      The amount of credit voters trying to award Luka for achieving NOTHING is insane.

    • @patrickmacasaet3493
      @patrickmacasaet3493 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@MaldingMan13 all due respect to Luka and I love the guys game, I think Shaq might be right purely because of the politics of the league, he really has to do something miraculous and WIN like Chuck and Kenny mentioned in multiple seasons, it's unfortunately the makeup of the NBA the way they choose their MVP, only 1 of the professional sports who deems their MVP that way

    • @alisteroidthecheatertestos964
      @alisteroidthecheatertestos964 6 місяців тому +6

      Do you not understand what makes an MVP? A player who elevates and makes the team better but also being valuable in their own way. Steve Nash brought a suns dead to rights to the 1st seed back to back seasons, Russell Westbrook averaging a triple double with a terrible thunder team to the 6th seed. D Rose who brought the bulls to the top seed. It’s a trend. Luka in no way should be MVP with all of the pieces around him and he’s at the 8th seed. Stop it. Luka has a better team now then Russ did in 2017 and Russ had them in the 6th seed.

  • @TODAYSmedia89
    @TODAYSmedia89 6 місяців тому +31

    Charles Barkley- LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING!

  • @luispeixoto2827
    @luispeixoto2827 6 місяців тому +27

    Shaq is taking that Steve Nash thing to the grave 😂

    • @gista00
      @gista00 6 місяців тому +1

      Funny thing is that there were like 8 other players before him in voting so it wasn't just Nash who beat him. :D But in Shaq mind he was close second. :)

  • @mops515
    @mops515 6 місяців тому +17

    I actually kinda agree with Shaq here about MVPs.
    The whole point is you're looking for the *MOST VALUABLE PLAYER*
    It's silly to believe that person can only be on a winning team because a well structured team with lots of depth could win without someone, while a team 5th or 6th that doesn't have the same depth might be carried by one great player.
    You tell me which scenario makes the player more "valuable"

    • @jdankerdake
      @jdankerdake 6 місяців тому +1

      That's the age old debate.

    • @umont13
      @umont13 6 місяців тому +2

      How valuable can you be if your team can’t be top 6 in record or you never make conference finals appearances.

    • @nikhileshnatraj331
      @nikhileshnatraj331 6 місяців тому +1

      its because the way the award has been doled out, it always goes to the best player on one of the best teams in the league. Look at Chuck: he should have won one MVP with the sixers especially in 89-90 season, but his team was never great. He went to the suns, put up lesser numbers than he did with the sixers and he got mvp. Same thing goes with jordan etc. Right now the Mavs arent a good team, and that is hurting Luka

    • @nostalgicbliss5547
      @nostalgicbliss5547 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@nikhileshnatraj331 Luka also doesn't add much value to his team defensively which is like half of the game, at least it should be. I know the NBA gives all the advantages to the offense. Not saying Luka is a poor defender, but he is not adding the same value as some of the great bigs on defense who are also great offensive players. Really Embiid would have run away with the award if he could stay healthy.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 6 місяців тому

      @@nostalgicbliss5547 why ??? EMBIID was just averaging 0,6 points more than LUKA and with a lot of rigged FT attempts and resting games...
      LUKA is creating plays making triple doubles while scoring..
      And dont even come with the DEFENCE lie...
      SIXERS team is good so good that the beat DALLAS without EMBIID and last season beat DENVER without EMBIID...

  • @VeePn-v1w
    @VeePn-v1w 6 місяців тому +21

    im with Shaq on this

  • @Nightcrawla7
    @Nightcrawla7 6 місяців тому +41

    Ernie out here doing gods work man. Bless that mans heart.

    • @Manou-tf8dx
      @Manou-tf8dx 6 місяців тому +1

      Blasphemous statement on so many levels

    • @rohanshah7559
      @rohanshah7559 6 місяців тому

      Only cuz you standing on the wrong levels

  • @CornVidds13
    @CornVidds13 6 місяців тому +18

    The fact that they feel Timberwolves dont hve a better team than Mavs is insane

    • @italo_scemo9202
      @italo_scemo9202 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah their whole argument was “Mavs have a better number 2 guy in Kyrie”. Yeah but what about number 3, 4, 5, 6…😆

    • @CornVidds13
      @CornVidds13 6 місяців тому +6

      @@italo_scemo9202 exactly I’m sitting here like .. they act Kyrie on your team means automatic championship .. so why doesn’t he have 9 rings 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @JohnSmith-rr3jt
    @JohnSmith-rr3jt 6 місяців тому +6

    Shaq is absolutely right about MVP being a singular award. Should have nothing to do with your team, except your teams win-rate with/without you.

  • @alinoori6780
    @alinoori6780 6 місяців тому +97

    Luka is deserving of multiple in his career

    • @CoachRJ334
      @CoachRJ334 6 місяців тому +9

      What's deserving in your opinion don't be a fan be an evaluator ....

    • @joshahlstrom2764
      @joshahlstrom2764 6 місяців тому +8

      @@CoachRJ334he would probably be the MVP this year if they’re a top 5 seed, or at least 2nd behind Joker. The only thing keeping Shai ahead of him is the fact that OKC has so drastically exceeded expectations. He’s only 25, at some point I expect the Mavs will have a season where they figure things out and get a top 3 seed and he wins MVP. It could happen though once or multiple times.

    • @StarryNight4024
      @StarryNight4024 6 місяців тому +8

      "Deserving"? What has he done to earn that type of praise? Respect is won, not given.

    • @MichaelSevilla97
      @MichaelSevilla97 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@joshahlstrom2764true his team is a 2nd round team at best ✌️

    • @ladanian560
      @ladanian560 6 місяців тому +1

      @@StarryNight4024he’s averaging 35-9-10 the only reason he’s 4th on the ladder is bc his team is the 8th seed and not top 2 like Jokic Giannis and Shai

  • @SkepticSkye
    @SkepticSkye 6 місяців тому +24

    So Essentially Luka should be punished for having an average team with a horrible bench and poor coaching. Shaq is right, it is most valuable PLAYER, and Shaq should know, he's seen this before...

    • @marko4713
      @marko4713 6 місяців тому +5

      That's not how it works lol, your team has to be winning... why do you think LeBron only started getting MVPs from 2009 onwards, despite carrying the cavs since pretty much day one??

    • @Steamedhams578
      @Steamedhams578 6 місяців тому

      But the people who actually vote for MVP never vote for players below 4th seed so it doesn't matter what Shaq thinks.

    • @NattyCaddy
      @NattyCaddy 6 місяців тому +4

      ⁠@@marko4713you’re right. that’s not how it works, but it’s how it should work. a guy shouldn’t win mvp over someone who is clearly better and has been better for their team, just because his team is better overall.

    • @marko4713
      @marko4713 6 місяців тому

      @@NattyCaddy i love luka i think hes a generational talent who will definitely win at least one MVP but he has to involve his teammates more. hes hogging the ball too much and just a few points up or down on his FG% can be the difference between a win and a blowout loss for the mavs, more often than not they end up losing because of it. its frustrating to watch for any mavs fan i imagine

    • @NattyCaddy
      @NattyCaddy 6 місяців тому

      @@marko4713 i do agree, but their roster overall isn’t that talented. he doesn’t necessarily make many bad decisions, but he drains the shot clock which leads to bad shot selections. he either takes a bad shot because the time is running down, or passes it to someone who isn’t open. he’s just gotta learn to create open looks for himself and teammates quicker. he misses a lot of shots due to the shot clock so i think his efficiency will rise if he plays at a slightly quicker pace.

  • @CinHalCedHerChance
    @CinHalCedHerChance 6 місяців тому +24

    Have to agree with Shaq on this one, "it's singular" and even if Minnesota comes in 1st in the West, Anthony Edwards is not better than Luka and more deserving of the MVP.

    • @udishomer5852
      @udishomer5852 6 місяців тому +2

      Anthony Edwards is also not more valuable than Jokic or SGA.
      He is currently ranked 9-10th in the MVP race.

  • @zacgrasl4229
    @zacgrasl4229 6 місяців тому +11

    CHARLES HE IS NOT ASKING THIS YEAR! HE IS ASKING HOW MANY WILL HE WIN IN HIS CAREER

  • @kimo9728
    @kimo9728 6 місяців тому +52

    It is quite literally a statistical fact that Luka is at WORST the 3rd best player in the league at the moment. The narrative of him being terrible at defense needs to die considering his vast improvement making him an actual serviceable defender. Luka has by far suffered the most from key teammates being out (Kyrie, Lively, even Exum) compared to the other MVP candidates and that's shown by the Mavericks having the most amount of unique starting lineups in the NBA this year. I agree that team record should be a factor to some degree to prevent players on actual bottom-tier teams from winning the award, but definitely not to the point where one HAS to be at least top 4 in their conference, context matters.

    • @makhabzaranamane6869
      @makhabzaranamane6869 6 місяців тому +3

      Luka is a terrible defender. Luka ain't no MVP if he cant lead his team to wins. They've just had aa terrible run where most of his teammates have been available. I'm as a big a Luka fan that you'll find but there's things he doesn't understand that's leading to losses that I'm sure he'll eventually figure out and thus collect MVP's on the regular. No doubt as a talent he's the best in the league at the moment, just has to learn how to win games. It would help if he had a competent coach but he doesn't.

    • @piwi2775
      @piwi2775 6 місяців тому +2

      watch the recent games. His defense cost them the game. Why do you think the best players keep attacking him? Why so you think mavs are ranked last in defense??

    • @SDesWriter
      @SDesWriter 6 місяців тому +1

      Westbrook won on a 6th place team. They just decided to change the metrics because he's so much better than everyone else on offense. If it wasn't for Joker he would be the most dominant offensive force in the league since Jordan.

    • @makhabzaranamane6869
      @makhabzaranamane6869 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SDesWriter Harden was putting up godly numbers not so long ago so calm down.

    • @SDesWriter
      @SDesWriter 6 місяців тому +2

      @makhabzaranamane6869 no he really wasn't. He had two big seasons and he got those numbers by doing a move that's now illegal in the NBA and thst's to fake a shot, then jump directly into the defender in order to get to the free-throw line with no intentions of making a basket. Look at his free throw numbers from those two seasons and then divide them in half and see how many Godly points he got....

  • @naparqalria
    @naparqalria 6 місяців тому +3

    I don’t understand how chuck and kenny value team standing so much in their mvp discussions. I’m with shaq on this. Russ won mvp and thunder was 6th in the west that year. Russ was ballin and deserved the recognition that year.

  • @FeralFresse
    @FeralFresse 6 місяців тому +10

    Hopefully Luka gets one more than shaq

  • @astheskylarksings
    @astheskylarksings 6 місяців тому +14

    The NBA coach of the year is rarely the coach with the best record. The MVP ain’t the best player award; it’s the most valuable player award. I’d love to see both awards

    • @jesuschrist-wc3rh
      @jesuschrist-wc3rh 6 місяців тому +4

      it's different story every year . if they don't like the guy they will change the criteria , they voted nash over kobe because of colorado . they voted embiid last year because he was black meanwhile kareem won mvps with losing records 50 years ago . there is 0 consistency with the regular season mvp award and it's the most fraudulent award in the nba .

    • @astheskylarksings
      @astheskylarksings 6 місяців тому

      @@jesuschrist-wc3rh boo 😒

    • @ooh4751
      @ooh4751 5 місяців тому

      @@jesuschrist-wc3rhyou right but Kobe lakers was also like 7th or 8th in standings. Shoulda went to tim Duncan honestly

  • @galiojusticejustice3191
    @galiojusticejustice3191 6 місяців тому +1

    I actually agree with Shaq, there's no way Ant should get MVP over Luka

  • @Animal_Channel
    @Animal_Channel 6 місяців тому +4

    Y'all debating who the MVP when's there's one clear choice, Joker!!

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 6 місяців тому

      Ant man or Tatum

    • @shinigami5947
      @shinigami5947 6 місяців тому

      ​@@realamerican8069really Tatum...really...ant man still not on that level...he is great too...

    • @killuafan4365
      @killuafan4365 6 місяців тому

      ​@@realamerican8069 dawg, Tatum isn't that guy. Ant is a much better candidate. Tatum just sinks, that warriors loss is proof of that. That finals, do you honestly think Luka or Ant will sink the way Tatum did?

  • @joshahlstrom2764
    @joshahlstrom2764 6 місяців тому +37

    Ant winning MVP, Chuck can’t actually be serious with that. He’s got to just be tired

    • @antmj2335
      @antmj2335 6 місяців тому +16

      If he holds the #1 seed and averages 35 a game for a straight month with his defense he played tonight. Absolutely

    • @joshahlstrom2764
      @joshahlstrom2764 6 місяців тому

      @@antmj2335 big If. He’s a great player but I don’t see that happening. What I could see more likely happening is the Wolves falling behind the Clippers in the standings and still being a top 4 seed.

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 6 місяців тому +2

      @@antmj2335facts! Ant man is a better player offensively and defensively!

    • @jalynjones9136
      @jalynjones9136 6 місяців тому +1

      @@joshahlstrom2764 thats definitely whats gon happen kat is a big loss

    • @jalynjones9136
      @jalynjones9136 6 місяців тому +2

      @@antmj2335 ur definitely a delusional wolves fan even if he did average 35 for a month straight which he won’t he’s still not winning mvp

  • @grant1739
    @grant1739 6 місяців тому +5

    I get tired of hearing about the MVP race every year

  • @johnnybrown81
    @johnnybrown81 6 місяців тому +3

    Shaq gonna argue and be wrong errytime 😂

  • @Mirrale
    @Mirrale 6 місяців тому +2

    The production value of their graphics is amazing. Kenny’s hair almost looks real

  • @hooimiin
    @hooimiin 6 місяців тому +1

    If you choose between 2 teams, winning team have 5 good players and losing team have a elite team up with below average player, then the elite player don't deserve credit for keeping their team in competition if lose by few points?

  • @PeaceFan1
    @PeaceFan1 6 місяців тому +1

    NO ONE is Playing BETTER than JOKER This Year..PERIOD!!!!

  • @aikcastle5043
    @aikcastle5043 6 місяців тому +1

    Jokic won an MVP while having his team as the 6th seed. Come on now, Chuck?!! Yes, Luka will eventually win an MVP.

  • @hooimiin
    @hooimiin 6 місяців тому +1

    My understanding is that MVP is the best player regardless of the team result.

  • @jpmay5503
    @jpmay5503 6 місяців тому

    Ernie: “how many mvps do you think luka will win throughout his year”
    Chuck: “if Minnesota finishes with the best record”
    brother just answer Ernie’s question man😭😭

  • @plokplok307
    @plokplok307 6 місяців тому +1

    This is the problem with players who is good from the start they will take you for granted even youre very consistent

  • @lovinglife419
    @lovinglife419 5 місяців тому

    The missing factor for Luka is leadership. He doesn’t have that quality yet.

  • @meyao8987
    @meyao8987 6 місяців тому +2

    Why doesnt ernie and the TNT crew interview the most expertise person on what MVP actually means and what do the voters really look at for shaq and the rest of the guys to finally find out what it is. TNT U GOTTA DO IT

  • @mohamedwazwaz9626
    @mohamedwazwaz9626 6 місяців тому

    I agree with shaq on this, it’s an individual award. It shouldn’t have to do with how well they’re team is doing.

  • @spidaman2475
    @spidaman2475 6 місяців тому +7

    So Scott Pollard got his heart? ❤

  • @NBAyyy
    @NBAyyy 6 місяців тому

    Shaq has changed his opinion on Luka so much. He used to never give him any respect so interesting to see Shaq actually defend Luka here

  • @patrick05Morgan
    @patrick05Morgan 6 місяців тому +1

    Chuck saying that comparing Luka and Anthony Edwards is like comparing apples to oranges is insanity. Yall just ride with Charles no matter what because you don’t like Shaq’s ring argument.

  • @thepiratepenguin_
    @thepiratepenguin_ 6 місяців тому +1

    Poor Ernie, he just wanted a simple answer to his question.

  • @atraina6921
    @atraina6921 6 місяців тому +1

    I see what Chuck and saying and I’m the biggest Luka fan, but it feels like these last few years he’s been the MVP front runner but team’s seed has not been very high. They need to do something about this if he’s going to win multiple.

  • @merrekeste3385
    @merrekeste3385 6 місяців тому +1

    I think 1 or 2 MVP agree with shaq but also agree with chuck mavs needs 2 be top 4 for that 2 happened

  • @italo_scemo9202
    @italo_scemo9202 6 місяців тому

    Ain’t no way they think Ant should win it. If you don’t wanna give it to Luka for the record, there are Jokic, Shai and Giannis who deserve it more than Ant

  • @isaiahdevillier9947
    @isaiahdevillier9947 6 місяців тому +2

    Based on this years mvp race, the nba should really take a step back and look at this thing, is it a best player award or a best player on a winning team award? There should be no reason why Luka does not win mvp, he’s the best player in the world, putting up insane numbers, but Tatum is over him because of his teams record, the mvp award voting process needs to be evaluated

    • @udishomer5852
      @udishomer5852 6 місяців тому +1

      The actual MVP race at the moment is:
      1. Jokic
      2. SGA
      3.Giannis
      Luka and Tatum are fighting for 4th spot
      Ant is maybe 9-10th.

    • @MoonIronTR
      @MoonIronTR 6 місяців тому

      everyone can statpad in bad teams
      like kevin lowe in wolves
      or brad beal in wizards

    • @369pendulum
      @369pendulum 6 місяців тому

      Kobe won 1 MVP. You Luka fans are really annoying. Stop crying.

  • @JosephAluko
    @JosephAluko 6 місяців тому +2

    SGA is this years MVP. Carrying a team full of youngsters to the best record in the west averaging over 30!

  • @rohitaasberi
    @rohitaasberi 6 місяців тому +40

    MVP is singular

    • @ssk58607
      @ssk58607 6 місяців тому +6

      How? It’s most valuable lol how are you valuable if your team is losing? There’s only value in winning, hence team standings should always matter

    • @videogames9829
      @videogames9829 6 місяців тому

      I agree, you wouldn't want someone on a team that won just 10 games taking home mvp@@ssk58607

    • @gongshowjimmy557
      @gongshowjimmy557 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@ssk58607Idiot. Luka is more valuable to his team than people like Anthony Edwards. If you remove Luka from Mavs, they're one of the worst NBA teams of all time.

    • @jesuschrist-wc3rh
      @jesuschrist-wc3rh 6 місяців тому

      this is the problem with the most fraudulent award in the nba aka the regular season mvp . it's always a different criteria one day nash wins it over kobe while averaging 15 points because he's top seed and another day jokic wins it as a 6seed because he has good stats. well which one is it? nba should just revamp this award or just get rid of it and make it a all of season mvp award (including playoffs)

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 6 місяців тому

      Too many fools share the same opinion as you when in reality it never works that way unless that team is really poor and that one guy able to get them enough wins to be a relevant team. Just like Russ did in 2017 with Morrow, Roberson, Kanter, Adams, Singler while dragging them to that 6th seed; and Jokic did without Jamal on that 2022 season (before Gordon & KCP got there) and also dragging them to that 6th seed.
      That's the only cases I can think of where such anomaly happened. Other than that, it's pretty much players with great stats and/or impact to their teams while that team ended up being a higher seeds (1-3 seeds).

  • @fplfieco22
    @fplfieco22 6 місяців тому +5

    Anthony Edwards has a less than 1% chance winning MVP this year. Jokic is way ahead. Only threats are Shai, Giannis and Luka.

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 6 місяців тому

      Ginnas? Yeah right

    • @udishomer5852
      @udishomer5852 6 місяців тому

      Exactly

    • @shinigami5947
      @shinigami5947 6 місяців тому

      ​@@realamerican8069Giannis is better than both Ur choices...Tatum and antman...who u think Giannis is...

  • @r.m.90
    @r.m.90 6 місяців тому

    I say 1. If the Mavericks get consistent and stay in the Top 3 of the conference he could be a multi-MVP winner like Jokic.

  • @moynul313
    @moynul313 6 місяців тому

    Ernie: How many MVPs will Luka win?
    Chuck: blah blah blah
    Ernie: Let me repeat the question, how many MVPs will Luka win?

  • @greatsisyphus7712
    @greatsisyphus7712 6 місяців тому +20

    no one answered the actual question :D

  • @norieltan9908
    @norieltan9908 6 місяців тому

    MVP. Is how your MVP player effecting winning. Simple as that.
    Shaq- always talks about individual, winning mvp is never just an individual awards. Its how your MVP player impact his stats and winning in both ways.
    Many superstar caliber and many all star caliber. Which is determined by its stats and marketability.
    Mvp is individual stat + impact to winning. Is the Most valuable player in producing Wins for the team.
    My opinion: mvp convo is jokic, antman, tatum, sga, mitchell,

  • @RealSerie26
    @RealSerie26 6 місяців тому

    NBA and Chuck have the right idea. The team needs to be a contender. In MLB, anyone can get MVP. Mike Trout has 3 and the Angels were contenders in none of those, oftentimes they would finish dead last in their division. That tells fans: the Angels could not have gotten to last place without Trout. SMDH.

  • @brachpaone1895
    @brachpaone1895 6 місяців тому

    shaq can just never accept being wrong

  • @rahowherox1177
    @rahowherox1177 6 місяців тому +1

    Best and most valuable aren't always the same thing.

  • @hrvojemastelic6935
    @hrvojemastelic6935 6 місяців тому +1

    Shaq’s actually right on this one

  • @floofington
    @floofington 6 місяців тому

    “An all-star is singular. The MVP is of the league”….is that still not singular Kenny?

  • @TheDenac
    @TheDenac 6 місяців тому +5

    Pretty sure Chuck was trying to say he doesn't see the team getting good enough in the future for Luka to get enough MVP votes. Why people saying he didn't answer?

    • @jdankerdake
      @jdankerdake 6 місяців тому

      That perspective lacks foresight. Luka is 25. He can be among the league's best players for the next 7-8 years. A lot can change on rosters in that time.

    • @TheDenac
      @TheDenac 6 місяців тому

      @@jdankerdake while that is true, assuming he stays in Dallas I don't think it's that crazy to say. Dallas has not been the greatest in acquiring talent and Luka will keep them good enough to not get great draft picks. He's playing with Kyrie who's known to be great next to a ball dominate type player and they still aren't winning enough games

    • @Broodjemetbeleg
      @Broodjemetbeleg 6 місяців тому

      @@TheDenacLuka aint staying around another 3 years if nothing changes.

    • @nostalgicbliss5547
      @nostalgicbliss5547 6 місяців тому

      ​@@TheDenac Kyrie has missed a lot of games with injuries. I think Dallas will be dangerous in the playoffs if Luka and Kyrie are healthy and the rest of the role players learn to play a lick of defense lol

  • @mario98730
    @mario98730 6 місяців тому

    In 2022 Luka was 4th in the West and came in 5th in MVP voting behind Booker. So I think it's safe to assume that at SOME point Luka will be a top 3 seed and win MVP, if nothing else because he's never won one. But if he keeps playing like he does, to Chuck and Kenny's point Luka will never be a high enough seed to even really be in the MVP conversation. The only times a low seeded player won the MVP was when Joker and Russ basically averaged a triple-double as the 6 seed. And I do think Luka has improved as a playmaker, but he still has more to go

  • @James_Blazer
    @James_Blazer 6 місяців тому

    The MVP debatte is probably the best discussion topic in sports history. You never get tired of it with your friends for hours

  • @leonglover6377
    @leonglover6377 6 місяців тому

    No one answered the question but Shaq for 2 seconds. Luka can win at least 2 yes if his team is in a better position. But if we do look at it as individual award it be between Luka, Joker, LeBron and Joel

  • @hoodiepen
    @hoodiepen 6 місяців тому

    To answer Ernie’s question 😅 at least two MVPs for Luka.

  • @rohanshah7559
    @rohanshah7559 6 місяців тому

    This bit is actually just ernie discretely asking the squad who he should vote for this year

  • @patricksobb5762
    @patricksobb5762 6 місяців тому

    Whether it’s fair or not, the MVP has traditionally come from a successful team. It’s just a fact, it doesn’t always go to the best player.

  • @folag
    @folag 6 місяців тому

    All the emphasis on naming a particular player discourages the unselfish teamwork that's essential to really good basketball. Instead of trying one's best to help the team win, the MVP-seeking player is motivated to pad his stats.

  • @italktocomputers1901
    @italktocomputers1901 6 місяців тому

    without luka that team is the same place as the spurs and wizards. he’s the MVP.

  • @shandagod7462
    @shandagod7462 6 місяців тому +1

    I agree with Shaq MVP is who the best fr

  • @davidramos3410
    @davidramos3410 6 місяців тому

    Luka is more cold blooded than any of the mvp candidates. He’s a monster with mamba mentality

  • @drsapnis
    @drsapnis 6 місяців тому

    Again they talking that Luka did not have a talent- he had KP and Brunson!!

  • @hwoodford6399
    @hwoodford6399 6 місяців тому +2

    Luka is a very very good individual basketball player, winning qualities..not so much.

  • @richardbastidas3671
    @richardbastidas3671 6 місяців тому

    60/40 sliding scale towards Shaqs point

  • @SamuelHenry-m1i
    @SamuelHenry-m1i 6 місяців тому

    Most valuable player is based on the player having the best performance that elevates his team Nash earned his two M V P awards.

  • @edwin3813
    @edwin3813 6 місяців тому

    Most valuable player can also understood as most important or impactful player of that league. Without Luka, Mavs would have been bottom 3.

  • @seven92023
    @seven92023 6 місяців тому

    Shaq always misunderstands what the MVP award is for. It's not for the best player in the league. It's for the player who had the most impact and the best season on a top performing team. This is why Shaq will always be salty that Steve Nash beat him twice for the award.

  • @RhapsodyinGlue
    @RhapsodyinGlue 6 місяців тому

    A simple hypothetical question about the future of Luka's mvp race descended into complete chaos for no reason. THAT, my friends, is why NBA on TNT is sooo far above the competition. Accidental Fluidity born from GOAT chemistry.

  • @alexcamp9320
    @alexcamp9320 6 місяців тому

    Title should be “Ernie asks how many MVPs Luka will finish his career with while the other guys debate something entirely different.”

  • @ARC_Trooper_Han
    @ARC_Trooper_Han 6 місяців тому +4

    Who he beating out on MVP?
    Jokic & Giannis?
    Ernie saying he vote for MVP in the middle of a near fist fight while laughing is hilarious.

  • @danielibarra5050
    @danielibarra5050 6 місяців тому

    Over the next 5 seasons, the only MVP winners will be Nokic, SGA, Giannis, Wemby or Luka and Embiid if he can ever play more than 65 games.

  • @muhammadshafeeqbinishak789
    @muhammadshafeeqbinishak789 6 місяців тому

    Chuck, Ernie's question is, ' DO YOU SEE LUKA WINNING MVP IN THE FUTURE '. Not can he win the MVP THIS season. The answer that Kenny gave '1' is fair. Dirk won one. Different kind of player from Luka. But i think he is carrying the same load on his back. Without the amount of talent in the whole league now, the bare minimum is 2 stars in a team.

  • @omarmendoza7150
    @omarmendoza7150 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro nobody is Better than Luka right now.

  • @X5J2UY
    @X5J2UY 6 місяців тому

    I am with Shaq on this one. Especially compared to Minnesota.
    Luka is at least 1-2 levels above Ant-Man at this point. But Minnesota have a better 1-5 and work better as a team.
    Kyrie is special, but he is hurt a lot and his skill set doesn't complement Luka as well as Kat and Gobert do Edwards.
    Other than Jokic, Luka is the second-best player in the West right now.

  • @dhruvshah7952
    @dhruvshah7952 6 місяців тому

    they argue about this every single year and its funny every time LOL

  • @jakereinhardt7312
    @jakereinhardt7312 6 місяців тому

    Gotta agree with Shaq on this one

  • @paperchasentx4162
    @paperchasentx4162 6 місяців тому

    Luka will win several MVPs. He’ll also break all Dirk’s records regular season & playoffs

  • @albondigas9764
    @albondigas9764 6 місяців тому

    In theory it should be harder to win mvp on a winning team, unless you single handedly carried your team having a better team around you means you are comparatively less valuable not more.

  • @lizziebutdiff698
    @lizziebutdiff698 6 місяців тому

    Kobe patted Luka in the back, learned slovenian just to prank him. And knowing what kind of person and player Kobe is, says alot about Luka, heck LeJames did not get that special of a treatment from Kobe.

  • @88walka
    @88walka 6 місяців тому

    Chuck has a point but at the same time he has to play that way..I don’t think it’s good or right to blame your teammates…but watch the recent Celtics game he was getting people open looks and they were missing so he started taking it into his own hands..and when they subbed him out I think it was the second quarter…the mavs just unraveled and after two offensive possessions they had to bring him back in..most valuable player? Yeah not a question…Tatum is doing amazing but his team does good when his out..SGA is a beast but his team does fine when he’s out.

  • @44paranoia14
    @44paranoia14 6 місяців тому +2

    KAT is better than kyrie, theres no way a 6ft gaurd is better than a 7ft do it all PF

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 6 місяців тому

      Smh casuals and their silly opinions 😮

    • @udishomer5852
      @udishomer5852 6 місяців тому

      KAT is more valuable for sure this year.

    • @killuafan4365
      @killuafan4365 6 місяців тому

      I've heard there's a player somewhere... What team was it.... He won a unanimous MVP.... Best shooter in the league... Yeah you right. A guard can't be better than a PF. Dwade was a bum, Kobe was a bum and Iverson was a bum.. man these small guys are just overrated aren't they?

  • @udishomer5852
    @udishomer5852 6 місяців тому

    Silly talking heads...
    Jokic is #1 in the MVP race
    SGA #2
    Giannis #3
    Luka should be #4, with an upgrade to 2-3 place if Dallas finishes 5-6

  • @Moistcheeks1
    @Moistcheeks1 6 місяців тому

    I think he'll get at least 1 probably 2. He's that good on his own. For his team to be better, Luka has to get more of the team involved and trust them to make shots.

  • @mura0
    @mura0 6 місяців тому

    Media talking about Lukas consecutive triple doubles in 4 or 5 games but he lost 3 of these games. He will never win a ring playing like that. Btw, Just give my man Jokic his 3rd MVP already.

  • @sp3ckogaming831
    @sp3ckogaming831 5 місяців тому

    Shaq STILL does not understand the MVP concept. Basically what Chuck and Kenny is saying is that Luka is not impacting the teams placement in the league. Meaning, if he was really valuable to his team, he would at least place higher than 8th. Shaq doesn't understand what it takes to be an MVP in the league clearly. If Shaq was just as dominant and the Lakers places 8th, he WOULD NOT have had a chance to be the MVP any of the times he was the MVP.

  • @AK2372
    @AK2372 6 місяців тому

    Luka is actually elevating his team like no other player other than Jokić. He has Kyrie and a bunch of role players who never won anything. And it's not like he's on a lottery team. Dallas is 7 games over .500 and 2.5 games behind the 5th seed. If they are a top 6 seed by the end of the year, he should be a top 3 candidate with Jokić and SGA, followed by Giannis, Tatum and Ant.
    The idea of Tatum being ahead of Luka just because he has an All Star lineup and a better system around him is crazy. People are overcomplicating the term most valuable player and are getting caught in the team success too much.

  • @cristan7525
    @cristan7525 6 місяців тому +1

    you should accept the fact now that Luka is Harden 2.0, that game wont win a chip, only a 1 possible MVP win

  • @AxelJ07
    @AxelJ07 6 місяців тому

    Luka must learn to play without the basketball. Chuck is spot on with his analysis.

  • @jogzGonzaga
    @jogzGonzaga 6 місяців тому

    DROSE wasn’t better than LeBron when he won his MVP…but because he had a better record he won..