Requisition Milestones/Building A Mechanical Dream Team
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- A video of two halves today: I take a look at the requisition milestones feature of the latest update, and follow up by discussing my plans to upgrade my mechanical units into an industrial powerhouse. Let me know in the comments what you think; which mechanical units are you finding to be especially useful?
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Tan Gi'da is definitely the most versatile of all the admech, an infinite summoner that can have up to 5 really bulky dudes running around reducing the armor of everything they don't kill, and kill they will if you change their protocol, they won't just shoot twice each turn ALL OF THEM but they'll also do extra damage and the ability has no limited uses, it's not a one and done like Ragnar, it's just forever active
I think someone did the math and it was 8 years to complete the milestones? The indication was they were supposed to something to help newer players, but at the current availability of req scrolls, it possibly isnt that helpful overall.
It’s only helpful to people who have thousands of dollars to drop on the game. It’s such a joke.
@Samueljohnhorne1984 yep that's a good point from the $ side of it. Is a crazy amount of time or money for someone to be able to really take advantage of the milestones.
Bruh
I think they should at least retroactively add progress according to your level and campaigns finished to the requisition milestone rewards.
A few points:
1. Sho works great with Vitruvius too, but he won't count for mechanical for LRE if you care.
2. Don't sleep on Rho's active, the direct damage is given for each passive attack too. It can really add up.
3.Alpeh Null's scarabs can screen out Rho if the target moves and then Rho can't get into melee range. Anuphet's summons are better because they have ranged attacks.
As far as the Req Scroll milestones...I don't get it. Admittedly new players get a pile of scrolls early on so maybe it makes sense.
However, as a low $ player: I get 1 or 2 10-pulls a month...most of those milestones are years away for me. Plus I have all those characters already.
Seems like more shit piled onto an already shitty system. I don't even get excited for 10-pulls anymore.
These are extra rewards that previously weren't there at all. Okay, I get that.
On the other hand it will take years to get to most of these, for most people. Unless of course they increase the rate of acquiring requisitions over time.
Saying this first update is more useful for the beginners is kinda misleading? Eh... Technically, it can be true, as you probably get first five 10-pulls in your 1st month of play and before you're level 20, likely? You could then use Azrael even in regular Indomitus campaign and elsewhere, without waiting on orbs just like Haarken. But after that? I'm 9-10 months of playing with modest spending and by my count I could've only passed Eldryon or the next reward. No Re'Vas yet. By the time people get something from this, they'll be long past the point of truly needing it...
This new feature sucks ass. its supposed to help new players but to truly help them, the final unlock should come @300 scrolls max or so which still will be almost a year or so. Dont get me started about advanced players, who maybe get like 7 scrolls a month, so going to 300 would still require 42 months or so without any additional scrolls from codes and so on.
You should def give tan gida another chance. I have his passive at level 40 and you can have 5 summons at a time. Also switching his active to attack mode when surrounded by summons turns Rho into a giant damage multiplier. Especially if Actus also heals Tan.
My mechanical GR team is Eldryon, Rho, Tan, Actus, Sho. Except against Dorn. Then I use non Summon necrons to trigger Rho.
Theres something like 1000 Req scrolls needed to "complete" that track and Dev notes said "its aimed at newer players". what do SP consider "new"? because as someone 6 months in I get 20 scrolls a month with the premium pass + events. so yeah this is min. 4 years to get to the end. and then its only 1 additional character every 5-6 months? it feels incredibly stingy and even big spenders wont be changing their habits because of this (which I am not). So happy to see isabella as a guarnateed unlock, but again that probably 1 year down the line at the current earning rate. I've not pulled her so far in 6 months and 200 ish req scrolls to date, so yeah, maybe i'll get her in 2025 😅.
If I'm being honest my take on the new requestion milestones is that it is a joke. Far to costly and give more incentive to pay into the req system rather then giving anything meaningful.
Just want to add I am not a new player, I am level 40, and the most I buy into is the daily 60 Blackstone.
Requisition scrolls are a lot of work and should be a reward in and of themselves. This milestone rewards are not a good reflection of this. I think this should be rethought as orbs and filler is gotten from the scrolls and gameplay, this should be large number of shards /character unlock only.
I do agree with many people that the req milestones need to be lessened. That being said it is a free thing that we didn't have before so some rewards are better than none. Also we need to wait for the second part of the req rework before we start blasting them.
If you want your mech team to be more raid focused Buzz you should go Rho>tan>actus>sho with eldy. Sho can be replaced with aleph/anuphet/revas also. I have all of them in D2 range and was able to complete the mechanical tracks in the event.
You are quite the hoarder of resources there and could easily get all their abilities up to legendary before deciding which ones to focus on. Also the 50-110 daily blackstone refreshes will speed up that process. Just my 2 cents.
WHAT A RIPOFF
Is RIPOFF the code?
@@BenW1991NE SURE...
For the Admech team YOU HAVE TO USE Tangida. You get 5 pretty tanky snipers with high pierce. In and on themself they deal pretty good damage (coupled with Eldy of course). Then you need Exitor of course, he is the main damage dealer. D1 45/45 at least better higher. Then having Actus is beneficial, he can trigger Tangida twice, making his spawns appear faster. So Tangida, Eldy, Exitor and Acrus are pretty much set. Then you have choices between Orkboss (triggers Rho twice), Revas, Aleph or Sho, depending on the boss. On silent king you cant use Aleph, but Alephs scarabs together with Exitor will tear the tyranid bosses apart (except screamer killer, here Sho can shine)
Imagine spending a ton of scrolls just quite recently and they implement this thing without retroactive reward system...
Yeah I agree.. it should be retroactive
They're dishonest saying the req change is for new players
@@Migiggles1337 You are right
Lovely progression!
If you are a new player you get about 10 10-pulls from all the campaign missions and chests. After that you gotta pay. So you can get up to Wrask free. But even taking away those 100 reqs, its still 1000 til you finish this so if you just buy regular battlepass this will take 10 years because you get about 10 BPs a year. If you get ultimate its still 5 years. Will this game last that long? That is the issue with this track.
Imospekh is definitely a favorite of mine. He’s a bit less flashy than Reva’s however he’s not a 1 round pony. I put a lot of investment in him to get through the mirror elite campaign and he’s basically an automatic win
The change is terrible. It should be retroactive, not starting from ground zero. Thanks snowprint, once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
I'd argue that for veteran players, this will seem okay. But for newer players, it may have the opposite desire. Especially when newer players will not have as much in the way of characters, it's going to be daunting. Still, offering a new track to gain characters Is a good thing, overall. But I agree with you, Isabella should be easier to unlock, instead of so far down. My Admech/Necron team is ongoing too. Exeter Rho, Tan Gi'da, Actus, Aleph-Null and Rev'as. Thank you for your insight and commentary.
Tan Gi'da is definitely wanted for a mech team given how many extra times he can get Exitor Rho attacking via his summons. He's an awesome choice. My team I used most recently against the Avatar was Sho (who is probably my favourite in the game), Re'vas, Actus, Tan, and Rho and they felt pretty decent. Vitruvius feels like the least useful of the admech to me and I don't feel he adds much here. Obviously Sho wouldn't be useable for mechanical teams for legendary releases, but otherwise I think is a great part of such a team.
If you're not piling on the summons then you're really missing out on some of the optimum damage from Rho, and Tan is the best mechanical unit for that. Sure Aleph's scarabs can get out of hand and be good for that too, but if they get handled then once they're dead they're dead whereas Tan can keep summoning each turn. Also the scarabs are melee, so can get in the way of Rho while the skitarii have ranged attacks. Anuphet also is good for summons but depending on the mode you're playing just become active too late to be as impactful as the skitarii.
Tan Gi'da, he is essential in ADM team. Once you have all or some of his summons out and positioned hugging Tan, switching edicts makes them shoot twice per turn. popping Actus active hugging Tan and some of his summons and perhaps Sho drones will make exRho have a field day and arm workout for that one turn. It is bit volatile team as you do not get consistently big runs on bosses, but you still will do great damage almost on any run, but when the big one pops... well that will make you laugh and smile for a week. So build up Tan for sure if you want to go for mech team. I still need to build up all of them myself and there is long time and long way to go as i am starved for shards, orbs, money and badges myself while i have most of them in gold by now.
I love my mech team, Actus has been fantastic for me, when he's pushed tan gida to get the spawns out i've been using him to repair revas to push out some more damage. then when Tan changes his protocol and you do the AoE repair, its a good time! Unfortunately I've got everyone to Gold1 which is not surviving against legendary avatar, and I'm stuck due to orbs
YT Creator Draupnir just released a video about how overpowered Exhitor-Rho is in a mechanical team. Thanks to summons and that passive ability, his team was more effective than a Ragnar multi-hit team against every guild Boss except Ghazgull and nearly twice as damaging against Screamer-Killer!
The progression system sucks ass like hell. NOBODY likes it. Go check it out on the DC server. 1. it wasnt asked for. people wanted improvements on the wreck... req system, instead they get this sorry excuse. 2. it doesnt help new players. 1200 scrolls will take years to complete and if you manage to do 1200 summons, you might as well have all characters anyway. Or you dish out like 3000$ and complete the progress bar instantly, but again, then you dont need any bonus anymore anyway and this makes it a whale only feature which is just a giant rippoff
The idea is good, but the requirements schould be cut by 4 to 5 or so.
It should be retroactive, then it would actually be worthwhile
@@colonelturmeric558 even then, been playing for a year and if i had 400 drops that would be on the highside probably leaving me with 800 to go.... over 100months f2p... yeah...
lol Isabella is about 3 years worth of scrolls down the list. Unless you drop buckets of cash on stone/scrolls this is a really dumb incentive. You’re spot on they should have put Isabella closer to the start. 50 scrolls for Azrael… it’s a joke. 5 scrolls for 1 uncommon orb. Ffs so pointless.
Isabella need another way of farm, that is a joke
I got so lucky and got her as a random pull, made a huge difference to my ability to progress imperial stuff & do (some) legendaries.
Regarding the mechanical units, I generally agree with you. I like Tan gida but everyone has his own preferences and game style so that’s fine. I just would like to point out that also Revas and Gulgortz are mechanical and can fit into the team. Gibbascraps can fill the tertiary repair role if needed.
Tan can summon 5 units which are ranged, which is helpful for triggering rho's passive, as there are only so many spaces around an enemy for melee, and also he can use his alternate passive to make all summons around him attack again (Including Sho's drones), further triggering triggering rho's passive. Actus is great because he can heal all mechanical units around him, allowing them to attack again with his passive, also triggering rho.
In short those three ad mech characters work really well together and cause massive damage.
Aleph null is great, the scarabs are great tanks vs morty which makes the whole fight much easier, he also auto heals on standing next to a damaged unit.
Actus is amazing when paired with rho and tan gida - extra attack from Tan either generates one new vanguard (up to 5) OR if in the Attack doctrine ( I forget the proper name) then that makes everyone mechanical around him attack again.... which makes rho attack again also. Stack up a bubble of Sho's drones, tan, and have rho at the back and you could have 6 attacks on the active heal, 6 rho attacks, 5 triggered attacks from Tans passive 5 from rho and then another 5 from tan and then 5 from Rho. Set off rhos active first so that you're doing direct damage and OOF.throw in Aleph for the scarabs to wrap and you've got your mech team.
NB a few bosses counter this type of thing with mechanics but it's hilarious to get off when it does work
The characters are shown at the level you already have them. What do you actually get?
It’s 3:24 not a great rewards scale. Some seem disproportionately applied and for players further through, especially F2P this is a real kick in the teeth. Unfortunately I doubt previous req scroll usage is or has been tracked so don’t think rewarding for previous usage will work but for instance, 500 reqs to get to Isabella at my current level and rate of earning would probably take me approx 30 months. Maybe a couple of months off with some dev rewards etc and that’s only if I bought the ultimate battlepass from now going forward. Otherwise, as F2P earning circa 5 per month I’m looking at 100months or 8ish years just to get Isabella!!
Tan/exitor combo is insanely poweful for raids.
What about all the requisitions i already pulled? I should have Azrael already and how am i supposed to get Actus?
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Black ddm like Jet Li Movie
If they divided the number of reqs for each reward by 5, it would be a massive win. As it stands, it's completely useless and not worth the time they spent coding it. What a disappointment
Progression Bar is essentially a spit in the face. They should be giving us something extra per 10 summon. And they should start with shards for all the Unfarmable characters that are locked behind the terrible REQ system. It’s so disheartening…
I’m shocked / you don’t seem to get the impact of the ADMECH team of Rho/Tan/Actus - 800k+ hits on guild raid bosses without having to be D3/level 50 is very doable
Tan in physical/less than 3 hits etc in LRE with repairers like Makhotep
I suggest it’s not all about 1 character and what they can do on their own it’s about synergy
I kind of want to fit Re'Vas in there; and if we are talking about pure mechanical then sho syl doesn't fit in. So, are we stacking as many hits as possible for Exitor? Because that means summons, Tan, Sho, Aleph; in that order. I think if we go pure Mechanical my team would be Re'Vas, Actus, Tan, Exitor and Either Aleph for the summons and extra healing, or Vit for damage. But if we are going for partial mech, I think the play is to remove Re'Vas and Aleph/Vit and replace them with Sho and Eldy.
Sho syl summon 3 powerfull droids with range 3. Sho syl fit to mech team perfectly 🙂
Proper chineseum based game, if you dont have a year old account with resources or a flush wallet, what incentive is there to play? Its such slow progression i doubt player retention is great except for afk toilet loggers.
I have Rho and Tan at tier 1 Epic rarity Silver 3 and then I'm 5 shards or so shy of unlocking Actus lol I need him.
I feel like the Sisters are treated like some super rare treasure. They were the reason I got into this game to begin with. I wanted to run an all Sister group. I’m losing interest just trying to grind away raising characters and failing to get the girls.
I wish re'vas overwatch ability was for as long as the shield drones are out - this would get him to be more on par with Imospekh. Would be of more us then
lol if Reva’s stayed in overwatch for multiple rounds it would be waaaaay too op
@@Samueljohnhorne1984 agreed, maybe caveat that with only as long as the shield drones are alive and switch from the cyclic ion to flamer on 2nd round onward?
Milestones rewards are a joke LOL.
I should get to pick a character after 50. Seems fair
This was my first lre unlock on the first run without buying any packs it's because I finished indomitus mirror elite and my crons were strong
My normal dmg in guild raid was 180-185 w mechanical.
Recebtly exhitor rho got blocked by a summon and i got 42k lol. Hes a beeeaaaast
Remember Morvehn Vahl is mechanical also!
Well, good question Indeed... I'm asking my self the same question... After leveling one hero to diamand1 maybe I need 4 other ones then I need one more to gold1 to have enough for Guild raids. Actualy I have quite every one leveled UP to silver1 except 7 to bronze1... This game is taking a lot of ressources when you want to have a lot of Heroes efficients. In any way your ''strategy'' seems good. On my side I still need a lot of Legendary shards... I dont understand how you have so much of them... Well I Guess I know how😂
The rewards are a tad naff if there where more between them it would be better
Tan'gida can summon 4 skitari at most if you level his passive but unlike Alephnul who can't still summon more if they die
he can do five at 36
@@computercrack let's be fair most of us will get him to epic and let him stay there until we upgrade all our other units
@@bloodhunter07 I highly recommend him. Have him @leggy 4* Gold2. passive 45. My guild is around top 50 and my team is on the lower side in the guild (only one diamond Char Bella D2) But on L4 Screamer GR boss Im top 8/30 with damage cause of the summons. Eldy G3 35/50, Bella, Revas G2 and Abaddon G2. Also in LRE hes quite usefull for the 1hit trait and mechanical, also as a summoner with unlimited, pretty tanky summons. Also with Exitor together he will pull off some nice damage against certain bosses. today my exi will become leggy 3* :)
@@bloodhunter07 its a choice of Ragnar multihit vs. Admech team, which is pretty decisive, meaning doing both is extremely hard cause of all the imp. resources needed. I went for admech cause everybody else basically has Ragnar.
@@computercrack bold of you to assume I have Ragnar
I'm still less than 8 months into the game
The only legendary units I have are Abaddon who I got in Req pull and Ahriman who I grinded for 6 months
I have done 3 lots of 10 req pulls and have never got a new character 😂 shits scammy lol!
206!! 😮 wtf
Ive seen similar systems that reward you for your pull. This is the worst one i have ever seen. This game has worse fomo machinicics then every mobile game out there and that is disgusting.
Do you realize how much you smack your lips? It's on the level of people who say "like" in every sentence
It is a failure