Cell wanted a challenge, and he could tell that Trunks didn't fully understand Super Saiyan Grade 3. He wasn't exactly lying about the power output, but he was subtly hinting that Trunks was going about increasing his power the wrong way, which he would later demonstrate himself by physically showing Trunks the major flaws with Grade 3, those being that his increased muscle mass had greatly hindered his speed, and that Grade 3 had a massive issue with ki consumption.
Yeah, I could agree with this. Just got confused why Cell would admit that Trunks was stronger than him when Goku, before Gohan SSJ2, was stronger than everyone at full power but still had no chance to beat Cell.
@@zenkye23in Dragon Ball, they use the word “stronger” in two ways: to represent who would win in a fight, and actual physical strength. It’s easy to get these mixed up because they never make it clear which “stronger” it is. This is a problem even in DBS. However, I believe that they’re implying Super Trunks is physically stronger than Perfect Cell, but Goku and Gohan have a higher chance of beating Cell since they both had Super Saiyan Grade 4, which is physically inferior to Grade 3, but overall superior. Super Saiyan 2 seems to have the benefits of both forms plus more speed, which is why Gohan is able to toy with Cell at first. Although, it can be argued that Grade 3 is still physically stronger because it is never confirmed.
0:00 Super Trunks win - Super Vegeta 0:05 Broly Z 0:20 Super Trunks win - Broly Z 0:26 Kale Berserk 0:38 Super Trunks win - Kale Berserk 0:44 Mecha Frieza 0:52 Perfect Cell 1:07 Super Trunks win - Perfect Cell 1:10 Super Trunks lose - Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell only released a portion of his ki energy aura when he fought USSJ trunks, he was massively holding back and was dominating trunks after 5 minutes into their fight. At the beginning of their fight cell was obviously toying with trunks just to get a understanding of the full extent of that transformation and stated in-between to trunks, he was a bigger disappointment that vegeta, when it came to fighting prowess. Goes to show you future trunks is no fighting prodigy or genius.
Technically cell did lie to trunks that trunks was stronger , Lets assume even if trunks managed to over power cell along with power drain and slow speed , Cell had the same transformation frieza version not to mention he used more bulky version against gohan , so trunks wouldn't had win nonetheless
I always assumed that Broly unlocked the same kind of power that Trunks did, going off of their character designs. I could be wrong, but I always had Broly (pre-Super) pegged as a Super Saiyan 1.5
Broly design was inspired by Super Trunks so that makes sense but their form are completely different because Broly doesn't have the same weaknesses in Super Saiyan Grade 3.
the second broly movie implies his form is stronger than ssj2. base gohan was more or less toe to toe with ssj broly and ssj2 gohan was gapped by lssj broly
He wasn't lying. There wasn't the point of using that form if the person lacked the speed behind it. Which was why Goku and Gohan worked themselves around that problem during their special training.
@@NothingnessforZ He did lie. Krillin was more impressed by Goku than Trunks when he went Grade 3 . Krillin says something like this: "His power's incredible, but he’s so slow... I think Goku’s a lot stronger than him." This proves my point stated in z. Even Goku surpassed Vegeta and Trunks massively due to his full power form being stronger than Grade 2 Vegeta and Trunks. No mere training ever put Goku again this massive of a leap over Trunks and Vegeta, which furthers my point. Cell was intrigued by their power-up, so he lied to see their full maximum extent of their training. Cell had said in the anime before Goku trained to attain Super Full Power form, "I can tell your power is equal to or greater than Goku’s, but you are no match for me." My point being is that Full Power Super Saiyan is equal if not stronger than Grade 3.
@@yahiaherzallah688Stop yapping. I only pointed out the prime weakness of the form, *that's it.* There was no need for your pointless explanation.
@@zenkye23 He can match the previous VA when base Broly's speaking, but his LSSJ Broly voice is a different beast. Pretty sure even the old voice actor himself had a hard time keeping up that voice, so no doubt he informed the new VA since they knew each other pretty well.
@@zenkye23dbs broly is poorly written. He was immediately sent out of the planet for his power and then he gets stuck on a new planet until Frieza gets him then he just fights random people with his only sparring partner being paragus yet he can match ssj and ssg at base? Wtf how is that not awful written. Broly was stabbed as a baby and his father executed and thrown in the trash. He revealed he was lssj as a new born saving his dad from Frieza death ball. He gets super Saiyan at a young age and goes ham cause he can't control it and spends years conquering and destroying galaxies before running into the Z warriors. WAAAAY better written characters. Dbs broly has no character at all he's like kid Gohan
Princess Trunks~
Please no
@@zenkye23 You LIED to me...
@@your_LocalAdachi_PNG I did no such thing!
@@TheSalsaGuy216 YOU DIRTY BOY...
You Dirty Boy!
Trunks passed Broly's vibe check
Trunks: 😳 Goku get me off this planet right now!!
@@michaelconde2023 no i didnt mean it like that
Why does broly sound like that
@@0vern9K Different voice actor
Cell wanted a challenge, and he could tell that Trunks didn't fully understand Super Saiyan Grade 3. He wasn't exactly lying about the power output, but he was subtly hinting that Trunks was going about increasing his power the wrong way, which he would later demonstrate himself by physically showing Trunks the major flaws with Grade 3, those being that his increased muscle mass had greatly hindered his speed, and that Grade 3 had a massive issue with ki consumption.
Yeah, I could agree with this. Just got confused why Cell would admit that Trunks was stronger than him when Goku, before Gohan SSJ2, was stronger than everyone at full power but still had no chance to beat Cell.
@@zenkye23in Dragon Ball, they use the word “stronger” in two ways: to represent who would win in a fight, and actual physical strength. It’s easy to get these mixed up because they never make it clear which “stronger” it is. This is a problem even in DBS. However, I believe that they’re implying Super Trunks is physically stronger than Perfect Cell, but Goku and Gohan have a higher chance of beating Cell since they both had Super Saiyan Grade 4, which is physically inferior to Grade 3, but overall superior. Super Saiyan 2 seems to have the benefits of both forms plus more speed, which is why Gohan is able to toy with Cell at first. Although, it can be argued that Grade 3 is still physically stronger because it is never confirmed.
Broly (Z) saying something NICE to Future Trunks?! Ayo?! Its a Christmas Miracle!! Merry Christmas to all. And to all a good night!~
Trunks: "so when you guys get bulky it's cool, but when i do it i become a turtle?"
"yes now here's your bride dress you have a wedding to attend!"
*Princess trunks*
If only Trunks used Grade 3 like Kaioken…
I was so glad that this interaction was in the game because I always saw super saiyan grade 3 as the proto-broly form.
0:00 Super Trunks win - Super Vegeta
0:05 Broly Z
0:20 Super Trunks win - Broly Z
0:26 Kale Berserk
0:38 Super Trunks win - Kale Berserk
0:44 Mecha Frieza
0:52 Perfect Cell
1:07 Super Trunks win - Perfect Cell
1:10 Super Trunks lose - Perfect Cell
It's rare for Broly to engage with someone without telling them that he'll kill them on the spot in any game (the ones where he actually talks) 😂
Perfect Cell only released a portion of his ki energy aura when he fought USSJ trunks, he was massively holding back and was dominating trunks after 5 minutes into their fight. At the beginning of their fight cell was obviously toying with trunks just to get a understanding of the full extent of that transformation and stated in-between to trunks, he was a bigger disappointment that vegeta, when it came to fighting prowess. Goes to show you future trunks is no fighting prodigy or genius.
good vid tbh keep going
0:47 mecha frieza in JP don’t have the Robot Filter
Ahh really, I need to check out the sub version later.
Mr Perfect Cell: "Look at me, I'm Trunks! Please love me, Daaad!"
ANDROID 16: Go, unreasonably buff bird!
New Frieza also sucks too. Bring back the OG, since we don't have Chris Ayres. Miss him.
Damn, the new Frieza is actually cool especially if you're keeping up with the manga.
@@zenkye23I think he meant the voice
@@evil_resident9 Yeah didn't read properly 😂
Technically cell did lie to trunks that trunks was stronger ,
Lets assume even if trunks managed to over power cell along with power drain and slow speed ,
Cell had the same transformation frieza version not to mention he used more bulky version against gohan , so trunks wouldn't had win nonetheless
Yeah, Perfect Cell wasn't even trying against Goku who is miles stronger than Trunks.
I always assumed that Broly unlocked the same kind of power that Trunks did, going off of their character designs. I could be wrong, but I always had Broly (pre-Super) pegged as a Super Saiyan 1.5
Broly design was inspired by Super Trunks so that makes sense but their form are completely different because Broly doesn't have the same weaknesses in Super Saiyan Grade 3.
the second broly movie implies his form is stronger than ssj2. base gohan was more or less toe to toe with ssj broly and ssj2 gohan was gapped by lssj broly
You trying to Peg others again eh?
@@SurrealParkour Bruh
@Lokil-nf2upThat was ssj1 Gohan. Never was it ever stated to be ssj2 and even in the games that scene happens only when Gohan is ss1
cell did lie so they would comeback stronger to challenge him
He wasn't lying.
There wasn't the point of using that form if the person lacked the speed behind it.
Which was why Goku and Gohan worked themselves around that problem during their special training.
@@NothingnessforZ He did lie. Krillin was more impressed by Goku than Trunks when he went Grade 3 . Krillin says something like this:
"His power's incredible, but he’s so slow... I think Goku’s a lot stronger than him." This proves my point stated in z. Even Goku surpassed Vegeta and Trunks massively due to his full power form being stronger than Grade 2 Vegeta and Trunks. No mere training ever put Goku again this massive of a leap over Trunks and Vegeta, which furthers my point. Cell was intrigued by their power-up, so he lied to see their full maximum extent of their training. Cell had said in the anime before Goku trained to attain Super Full Power form, "I can tell your power is equal to or greater than Goku’s, but you are no match for me." My point being is that Full Power Super Saiyan is equal if not stronger than Grade 3.
@@yahiaherzallah688Stop yapping.
I only pointed out the prime weakness of the form, *that's it.*
There was no need for your pointless explanation.
I don't think "Ultra Super Saiyan" Trunks coud have beat Broly, but he could probably have hurt him, at least.
Don't think Trunks would have touched him at all. Broly is on another level.
@@zenkye23 He's about Perfect Cell level strength, isn't he? Broly, I mean.
@@shadowldrago Definitely stronger than Perfect Cell but not against Super Perfect Cell.
@@shadowldrago Definitely stronger than Perfect Cell but Super Perfect Cell beats Broly.
@@zenkye23 That's a fair assessment.
Priness truuunks
I didn't see someone already beat me to it... darn
Broly: “incredible!, and respectable muscles as well”
Be sure to pin this.
New Broly sucks ass.
Damn how comes? Broly Z is poorly written.
@@zenkye23 I mean the VA
@@christianmicheal6678 Ahh ok, he seems quite decent
@@zenkye23 He can match the previous VA when base Broly's speaking, but his LSSJ Broly voice is a different beast. Pretty sure even the old voice actor himself had a hard time keeping up that voice, so no doubt he informed the new VA since they knew each other pretty well.
@@zenkye23dbs broly is poorly written. He was immediately sent out of the planet for his power and then he gets stuck on a new planet until Frieza gets him then he just fights random people with his only sparring partner being paragus yet he can match ssj and ssg at base? Wtf how is that not awful written. Broly was stabbed as a baby and his father executed and thrown in the trash. He revealed he was lssj as a new born saving his dad from Frieza death ball. He gets super Saiyan at a young age and goes ham cause he can't control it and spends years conquering and destroying galaxies before running into the Z warriors. WAAAAY better written characters. Dbs broly has no character at all he's like kid Gohan