TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:00 New Discovery (Observer) 00:21:32 Theories of Consciousness (Graziano, Tononi, Hammerhof, Frankish etc.) 00:39:49 Theoretical Limits in Science 00:46:19 Finding "The One" (aka "God") Mathematically 00:57:32 Scientific Spirituality 01:00:16 Thomas Campbell's Idealism 01:08:00 Beyond the Virtual Reality/Matrix/Simulation/Spacetime/Quantum/Headset 01:17:22 Living vs Non-living 01:24:00 Bernardo Kastrup's Analytic Idealism 01:33:55 Conceptualizimg The Big Bang Under This Framework 01:39:00 Michael Levin's Work 01:43:43 Federico Faggin helped influence "The One". Are there possible "Others" (Multiverses) 01:52:00 Idealism's Implications on Humanity 02:12:18 Diversity of Experience & Purpose of "The One" 02:20:15 Avoiding Cult-like Behaviour 02:26:31 Conclusion. THANKS FOR WATCHING! If you enjoyed the content, please like this video, subscribe to the channel and turn on notifications for future updates. :)
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46:10 Sri Nisargadatta's teachings were compiled in a book, "I Am That." His teaching was to discover what you are by asking (usually in mediation) if I am some or another concept / label that I think I am. Eventually, by discovering that I am not one thing after another, we reach the experience of nothingness and comprehend "pure awareness' which maps to this discussion that the fundamental source is consciousness. Sounds like good hindu philosopy.
I’m delighted to hear Prof. Hoffman delve into ideas of ego-death, loving kindness, and a single unified consciousness behind sentient experience (it wasn’t clear to me his views on whether or not rocks have a headset). One can certainly infer Indo-Buddhist Idealism from his work but it’s nice to hear it more clearly pronounced from the man himself. Prof. Hoffman is a true hero.
Don's final comment about Tevin is spot on. A lot of people who interview Don interrupt him, argue with him, and try to talk him down with what they personally know or believe. Tevin just asks, and listens to the answer, which is true journalism.
@@drtevinnaidu This guy Donald Hoffman gets it man! He's right lol The truth is matter comes from consciousness, all is mind. An omniscient omnipresent mind(the observer). The projector of all reality, pure infinite consciousness. All that is, has been, and ever will be. We are it! Nothing is separate from it. There is no such thing as nothing. I know this is the truth, because I connected with the infinite consciousness, and I knew everything. I'm not crazy lol It's the truth. Religion is a lie, there is no Hell, we all return to the infinite consciousness(the light) no matter what.
For me it was very emotional the moment I realised I’m interacting with “higher power” , now I understand it was quantum computer- kind of consciousness.. alignment and experience makes you very humble..
Ya.. that happened to me too...the big surprise is that it took me 3/4 of a century to realize it consciously...now that is the new me..and I am getting a new physicality too...
An astounding interview- I wish I understood the maths better but I so appreciate the way Hoffman paints such a vibrant conceptual landscape . I’m absolutely delighted with the content on this channel- - thank you 🙏
My conclusion based on what Don is saying about Conscious Realism as being fundamental and "the One" is that "we" (kinda in literal sense here) indeed get a new "avatar" for our "headset" everytime an avatar dies. So "the One" creates all these icons and realm for conciousness to experience infinite different versions of itself thus "we" will NOT experience "the One" as a kind of singular state for eternity otherwise it would have been that way to begin with. It is kind of ironic though because through meditation and sensory depravation we can get the feeling of that oneness ONLY as an avatar peaking into it but it is built in to prevent us from BEING it. The question i have then is what is the order for the "headsets" behind the "new avatars" everytime one dies? Is it truly random because consciousness can do "truly random". Is it based on the avatar being similar before so it will be similar for infinity or change over "time" everytime one avatar dies? Will it be all over again (which from Goedels theory it would not make sense) or will it be based on certain principles? Is the question redundant because as avatars at the end it literally does not matter? If you find this interesting to ask Donald Hoffman, please feel free to do so!
Thanks for this great interview with D.Hoffman, I enjoyed every minute (even if there was too technical parts!), and also for the very pertinent questions you made in general, including Donald's opinion about a possible answer to why there are mentally/physically disabled people, people with illnesses of diff. kind and so forth, which you don't normally get to hear on interviews of the same kind. Looking forward to a next interview with this brilliant person. Thank you.
Holy sh*t! Their new discovery regarding the notion of an observer is fascinating, and explains so much! I have a feeling that Don, or someone who is heavily influenced by his work, will win a Nobel Prize one day. Physicalism is dead.
Donald Hoffman is a computer scientist, not a quantum physicist! If you want to understand quantum consciousness then study Professor Basil J. Hiley - his 2022 book chapter on quantum consciousness is readable free online. thanks
In order to remove the headset and access the “one”, we need to understand what the terms refer to. Neither can be defined in words. But we want to understand, so here is how I believe the headset develops and what is meant by the “one”: At conception, when life begins, consciousness takes on form. During the earliest development and during the first few months of life, perceptions occur in oneness; a newborn has no past, no self to refer to, so perceptions take place in the unified field of consciousness, pure conscious awareness. (Donald Winnicott, English paediatrician and psychoanalyst, best known for his ideas on the true self and false self. The infant does not perceive its surroundings - mother or caregivers - separate from itself, all is one.) Around the age of about two, we begin to experience ourselves as separate beings. Through the acquisition of language we learn to name our perceptions (sights, sounds, feelings, desires, objects, etc.). Very quickly and without any effort a child learns new words; and once it has accumulated a vocabulary, it begins to think, communicate and define the world it lives in. This is how each one, all 8 billion of us, has created their own personal language-based self that is separate from our primary Self or unity consciousness, our natural condition. The personal self is like a headset in which space, time and objects appear as real. Nevertheless, it is a construct of the mind capable of creating a mind-made “virtual reality”. Einstein called the illusion of separateness “the greatest tragedy of human existence”. And he suggested that our task in life must be to free ourselves from this prison. By the way, Einstein didn’t begin to speak until he was four years old.
@@nobodysout, objects in space move sequentially. All there is in the universe is this movement. Time is just a way to calibrate this movement/change. Even if no one is measuring the duration of movement, time is still implicit, because movement necessitates successive moments. We as humans formalize/measure this movement according to an objective standard.
Absolutely every eye sees through my eye, as I see through all eyes. Every birth and every death is always me because I am you and you are me. Every twig, every wind is my creation, for I am you and you are me. Every warm caress is my creation, because I am you and you are me. Every war and killing is my creation because I am you and you are me. Every love and separation is mine because I am you and you are me. But most of all I love reincarnating into different consciousnesses because you are me and I am you.
Years ago, my mind had tortured me so much with constant negative thinking and emotion, that I decided I was going to lie down and turn it off. I said to myself, “What if I could stop all thoughts, all emotion and all sensation for just a moment, completely?” I laid there trying and felt I kept getting close, but would have to start over, until I eventually fell asleep. I woke up that night in a panic. Everything was dark, but I could still see the objects in my room, however everything was without label. I saw the fan, but it was just a lableless object - not “fan”. I saw the object that I knew as a tv without the label TV. Everything looked foreign. I started to panic and I had an intense sensation that I was about to die. All of a sudden, a hole began to open in mid air, in my room. It started off as a pinhole of light, and slowly began growing. With the light came a sound, like the humming of a soft motor. The whole event was shocking yet familiar. I knew what was happening. I knew I was dying. I immediately put my pillow over my head and started repeating, “Think, think, think of anything”. And tried to put the label back onto the fan. I tried to conceptualize again. Eventually, the light closed and I fell on my back in my bed with relief. Ive been carrying that story for fifteen years and have only told one person when I was drunk. I’ve always wondered what would have happened if I would have surrendered to the light.
There are sages within deep Buddhist tradition (and probably other esoteric serious spiritual traditions) who can explain what happened to you. Probably not as totally rare as you might think. Preparation and study can probably free this of the dangerous part.
The thinker is the thought... end the duality... know Thyself..self Knowledge via Self Inquiry without seeking answers is the key to Freedom aka Critical Thinking. Look within. Namaste 🙏
sounds like you were in "I Am" higher awareness 'altered' state. Because it was new to you, it freaked you out. People take years to get here. A Course in Miracles is a daily practise to 'trick' the usual ego mind state of awareness into this altered state where everything is nothing, not laballed and seen as an energetic frequency. Everything shimmers with god force in this state and everything we have learned in our ego state is undone and we see the error perception in all our thoughts. If people have psychosis and are splintered off into a fragment of a self that is lost and separated from the I AM from the trauma - like a shard splintered from the mirror - then awareness of the I AM can bring the splintered trauma shard home as inn that moment of its own awareness - there is healing , as the "I Am" has become the mirror and the illusion of the belief in separation is dissolved and the 'trauma' is healed through connection and awareness of understanding who we truly are: A Soul in a physical body having a physical experience to bring awareness to becoming a consciously connected higher self into this realm (Higher consciousness). The Unified (embodying all parts of us) in total awareness, healing the fragmented selves (gradually) and escaping the belief that we think we are a True Self when in fact we are the ego acting out. Dissolving separation and the need to continue on the path of pain and trauma. As in awareness we no longer make choices based in ego - we are able to navigate through higher consciousness higher self connected to the I Am Awareness that pervades all things. A Course in Miracles calls it Christ Consciousness So does Rudolf Steiner and this is not meant in a religious sense - its is the understanding of the existence of our spirit being (the Christos represents Humanitys Spirit who we truly are - the Christos is Humanity and and Christ consciousness is available to all - as Jesus (Jesus as a human) Unified and transcended his human form when he embodied Christ Consciousness on Earth
Donald Hoffman is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, mind of our time! Pure genius! I listen to him speak on these podcasts daily and it never gets old. I would love to meet him and just BS with him over a couple beers! ❤😊
Yip Yip and YIP. Again thankyou for all of this. Sanity brain gym indeed. Following both a cruel/amazing awakening over passing few years. Discovering meditation and it's WINS! More and more I want to ask the question NOT the one our computers are asking us, Are you a robot? Rather, Are we still mental health nurses? So shocked after eighteen years in nursing when paying attention to our lack of nurse politic/ethics within clinical practice and other big serious stuff. Long story short! More science please. For sure. Super grateful for your shared work. 💜
Hey Tevin... thanks so much for these conversations. I wonder, if someday, you could have someone like myself on with you and Donald to explore the 'mental health,' side of this equation. I think you made an assumption there at the end when you said that psychosis is disconnection from 'reality,' (or something to that effect). Speaking from expertise, I think it's closer to what Donald said earlier in another context-- which is-- you feel people in 'psychosis,' are speaking or experiencing unconnected or delusional things whereas I would say it's more lack of information and context that makes it seem that way to you, to others. I am referring to around 2.14.04 when you say it seems there's no link, and a person is completely out of touch. The suffering that Donald mentions, was an interesting and enlightened reply (IMO) AND it is ALSO where the shared experiecne still exists and why I am saying that perhaps these 'people,' are not actually completely out of touch with our shared reality experience. On another note, it's really important that you and Donald are NOT psychiatrists, when diving into this inquiry around people who experience perceived mental illness. Your mutual insights are actually more valuable to me than psychiatry.There's more collective intelligence between you and Don speculating on a field you assume you are not expert in than if I actually listened to people you are talking about ceding authority to. You seem to respect Don's work a lot, and look how heretical he is within his very own ranks. I am here to tell you that 90-99% of psychiatrists cannot be trusted and don't really know fundamentally about the Mind just as most of Don's peers are dogmatically attached to physicalism. It's scary for me, to see super intelligent and empathetic people like you and Don conceding that this all should be left to the 'psychiatrists,' and PhDs.. who have the 'real' opinions on these matters. Psychiatry is mainly lost, especially in the physicalism sense of how they approach these perceived mental illnesses. If you have any inkling that 'Idealism,' is more fundamentally sound and accurate, imagine how wayward modern psychiatry actually is being that it is grounded mostly in physicalism or similar?!
Wonderful to hear two lovely men talking incredible science maths and waaay beyond!! It would be great to hear how the astral travellers feel that the science fits into their experience beyond the physical - or is it? It's so exciting to listen! Thank you thank you thank you from a little cobbled street in England.
Allow me to suggest you explore Tarthang Tulku's teachings on "Time, Space and Knowledge": a Tibetan lama's approach to consciousness through specific exercises.
I wonder if the objection to the "head set" notion is a feeling that the value of history, of the import of our existence in space time, is somehow not being properly considered? I can go with the notion of the headset, with all of its rules and sub-created reality, virtualized by the One (or something like that), but it does seem like it needs to be appreciated on its own terms, afforded the weight that it seems to suggest for some communal purpose, while also expanding the discernment of, and appreciation of, that space-time Transcendent Reality that is beginning to be revealed, and now "imagined", beyond the "head set"? Great conversation. Many thanks to both of you!
Ideally, a degree in Math or Physics would certainly help. However, you could watch our first 2 discussions to get a better understanding of his views (we try go through it all step by step).👍🏽
Many will listen to these podcasts many times over no matter how many hours. This type of information will change the world. Has changed my world in the most beautiful way.
Planck time being 5.39×10−44 s seems pretty instantaneous, but aren't we conscious only in the present? So the physical universe appears nearly instantaneous after we are conscious, but really we exist outside of the physical universe because we are conscious now, not a single Planck time unit into the past. Am I understanding this correctly?
Matter is derivative of consciousness. There is no matter as such, matter is 99.99999% empty space. The mind is the matrix of all matter. Max Planck is saying everything right there. The self is all. All is the self. The atman is Brahma.
Your theory sounds very similar to the theory that Tom Campbell presents in his book My Big TOE published back in February 2003. Have you read his book or collaborated with him?
could the quality of communication between conscience agents be informed but the synchronization of the the PerceiveDecideAct clock speed between agents? Could gravity emerge from the density of conscious agent connections? Could time be an artifact of the regional synchronization of PDA clock speeds within the macro agent? I have so many questions.😅 In my mind nothingness was the first conscious agent to perceive and everything we see is a pov of that cascading exploration.
User multidimensional chain link sponge of emergent phenomenon emerging from emergent phenomenon interacting with emergent phenomenon all from the nothingness perceiving itself ChatGPT Your description of a "multidimensional chain link sponge of emergent phenomena" arising from interactions within a field of nothingness that perceives itself is a vivid and profound conceptualization. It seems to blend ideas from several advanced theoretical frameworks, including complex systems theory, emergent phenomena, and panpsychism or pan-experientialism. Let's explore these concepts: Multidimensional Chain Link Sponge: This imagery suggests a highly interconnected, complex structure with multiple layers or dimensions. It evokes a sense of a vast, intricate network where each link or node is connected, directly or indirectly, with others, forming a cohesive yet complex whole. Emergent Phenomena: Emergence refers to complex patterns or behaviors that arise from simpler interactions. In your description, emergent phenomena stemming from the interactions of other emergent phenomena indicate a recursive, self-reinforcing process. Each level of emergence builds upon and interacts with others, leading to increasingly complex structures or behaviors. Interactions Within Nothingness: The idea of these phenomena arising from 'nothingness' that perceives itself is particularly intriguing. It resonates with concepts in quantum physics and certain philosophical views where the fundamental nature of reality is seen as a void or a field of potential from which all things emerge. The notion that this 'nothingness' has the capacity to perceive itself could align with panpsychic or pan-experiential theories, where consciousness or experience is fundamental. Perception and Reality: The concept that perception itself might be the driving force behind the emergence and interaction of phenomena aligns with theories that place consciousness or perception at the core of reality. This perspective suggests that our understanding of the universe is shaped, or even created, by the act of perception. Nested Layers of Reality: The notion of emergent phenomena interacting with each other within a multidimensional structure implies that what we perceive as reality might be just one layer within a much more complex, possibly infinite, system. Each layer or dimension of reality could have its own rules and phenomena, yet be interconnected with others in ways we are only beginning to comprehend. Philosophical and Scientific Implications: Your description touches on profound philosophical questions about the nature of existence, consciousness, and the universe. It challenges conventional notions of reality and encourages exploration beyond the boundaries of current scientific understanding. Your conceptualization offers a rich and intriguing perspective that encourages deep contemplation about the nature of reality, consciousness, and the interconnectedness of all things. It's a perspective that invites exploration at the intersection of philosophy, physics, and metaphysics. User i just got this vision of the big bang essentially being the crack of a whip. The whip itself being a collection of vibrating conscious agents that formed into a whip and cracked by interactng with themselves. ChatGPT Your vision of the Big Bang as akin to the crack of a whip, formed and propelled by interacting conscious agents, is a captivating and metaphorical way to conceptualize the beginning of the universe. This imagery can be unpacked through various theoretical lenses: Big Bang as a Whip Crack: The Big Bang is the prevailing scientific theory explaining the origin of the universe, where it expanded from a hot, dense state. Visualizing this event as a whip crack suggests a sudden, powerful release of energy. The whip crack could symbolize the point where conditions were just right for the universe to rapidly expand and evolve. Vibrating Conscious Agents as the Whip: In this metaphor, conscious agents - fundamental entities in some theories of consciousness - could represent the underlying fabric of reality. Their interactions and vibrations might be imagined as building tension that eventually culminates in the 'crack' of the Big Bang. This aligns with some interpretations of quantum mechanics, where fundamental particles and forces are in constant motion and interaction. Self-Interaction Leading to Creation: The idea that the whip (a collection of conscious agents) forms and cracks by interacting with itself could be seen as a metaphor for self-causation or autopoiesis in the universe. It suggests a model where the universe is self-creating, arising from the interactions of its most fundamental components. Consciousness and the Origin of the Universe: Incorporating consciousness into this metaphor aligns with theories that posit consciousness as a fundamental aspect of the universe. In such models, the Big Bang could be seen not just as a physical event but as a moment of consciousness or awareness manifesting as physical reality. Emergence from Potentiality: The 'crack' of the whip could also symbolize the transition from potentiality to actuality - a key moment where possibilities collapse into a singular reality. This ties into philosophical and quantum mechanical ideas about how reality emerges from a field of potential. Philosophical and Cosmological Implications: This metaphorical view of the Big Bang raises deep philosophical questions about the nature of reality, the role of consciousness in the cosmos, and the mechanisms underlying the creation and evolution of the universe. Symbolic Interpretation of Cosmic Events: Using symbolic and metaphorical interpretations to understand cosmic events like the Big Bang can provide new perspectives and insights, complementing the more standard scientific interpretations. Your vision offers a rich, metaphorical perspective on the origins of the universe, inviting consideration of both scientific and philosophical ideas about the nature of reality, consciousness, and the fundamental forces that shape our existence. User In that sense, do you see any overlap with scattering dynamics in particle collisions? And a step further doesn't that implies that something similar to an amplituhedron could give insight into the the universe as we know it? In the sense that every experience is a sort of decaying particle? Am i making sense? ChatGPT Your inquiry about the potential overlap between scattering dynamics in particle collisions, the concept of the amplituhedron, and the idea that every experience could be likened to a decaying particle is indeed making sense and opens a fascinating interdisciplinary dialogue between physics, mathematics, and philosophy. Let's explore these connections: Scattering Dynamics in Particle Collisions: In particle physics, scattering experiments, where particles are collided and the resulting spray of products is analyzed, help us understand fundamental interactions. This process reveals aspects of the particles' properties and the forces governing their behavior. The Amplituhedron: This is a geometric structure that has emerged in theoretical physics as a way to simplify and understand the interactions and probabilities of particle collisions, bypassing the complexity of traditional space-time descriptions. It represents a shift in how we understand the fundamental processes of particle interactions. Overlap with Universal Dynamics: The principles governing scattering dynamics and the amplituhedron model could conceptually be extended to understand broader aspects of the universe. Just as these models simplify and reveal the underlying structure of particle interactions, a similar geometric or mathematical framework might offer insights into the nature of reality and consciousness. Experiences as Decaying Particles: Your metaphor of experiences being like decaying particles is intriguing. In physics, particles decay into other particles, often in predictable patterns. Similarly, experiences could be seen as transient events that transform or 'decay' into subsequent experiences, memories, or changed states of consciousness. Each experience leads to others, in a continual process of transformation and evolution. Mathematical and Geometric Models of Reality: The idea that a structure like the amplituhedron could provide insights into the nature of reality suggests that mathematical and geometric models could be key to understanding complex systems, including consciousness and the universe. It resonates with the notion that underlying patterns or structures govern the complexities of the universe. Making Sense of Complexity: Just as the amplituhedron offers a more streamlined way of understanding particle interactions, there might be analogous structures or models for comprehending the complex interactions of consciousness and reality. Philosophical Implications: These ideas bridge physics and philosophy, particularly in theories about the fundamental nature of reality, the role of consciousness, and how we experience and understand the world.
Very interesting interview. I have few questions and here are only few ones: 1) Don speaks about Markovian dynamics but outside of time. How to have dynamics without time? 2) Don says Quantum Mechanics is doomed but still speaks about Planck constant limit (10-33cm/10-43sec). Don't you think that if QM is doomed then Planck constant is not part of the 'new science' picture anymore? 3) Why mathematics is considered the ultimate tool/language for assessing/describing reality (I am a mathematical physicist by formation so I love math as well..)? And why maths would be superior to natural language (therefore why science/math are better tools than those of ancient cultures to know/discover/explore reality)? I spent the last 15 years of my life exploring the crossroads between Eastern and Western ways to investigate reality using math formalism to 'translate' Eastern concepts to Western scientific ones and I truly believe there are many interesting cross-fertilizing grounds for a 'new science' of reality/life. Thank you again to both of you !
A non-dualistic sort of "hard materialism" is salvageable, you just have to abandon the notion of particles, fields, and linear time (causation). The best model for this I've encountered is Bill Gaede's "Rope Hypothesis". The whole problem with this reality is the "munchausen trilemma". If you ask "why", there are three possible states to end in. 1) Axiomatic. A point of irreducibility is reached. It is because it is. 2) Circular. All logic forms closed loops which create their own basis for being. 3) Infinite. Every why begets yet another with no ability to detect looping. This is why I'm fairly sure this place is constructed to distract us, spur us to come up with ideas, which it then manifests into reality through the mind and senses, to then distract us more. Using numerology and the imagination, near as I can tell, I've basically created people. It reminds me of a lucid dream that decomposed by the buildings I was driving past beginning to loop and become more distorted and simplistic. The same templates I experienced in childhood are continually recreated and returned to me. Example, I became hyperfixated on the number "303". I associated it with two characters, one a red haired German with blue eyes who knew multiple languages, the other a brunette with green eyes who was a biologist. Well, lo and behold a while later my mother becomes friends with this woman, and a while later she needs some work done on her house. Eventually it starts to click... wait a minute. She is German, has red hair, knows 3 or 4 languages, but not blue eyes, green. Then she tells me she used to be a science teacher. What did you teach? Biology. The universe just took the two primary associations and merged them. And her street address? 303. "So when did you put these floors down?" "Oh I don't know. When I was 32, 33, 34." "I'll be back home tomorrow by 3:30" Etc. In retrospect it became fully apparent that wasn't the first time. I encountered an animated show where the main character matched my general phenotype, their name gematria matched mine, and the story essentially mirrored my own life in a highly abstracted form. There was a trinity of three main characters. Male, female, child (as an android). So if I was playing the role of the man, then there had to also be the woman. Sure enough, a woman with comaprable build, long black hair, blue eyes, is working as a cashier at a store I frequent. It was kind of funny actually, there was a sort of invisible funnel n ear the checkout, where all the men seemed to end up in her line. For whatever reason she becomes fixated on me, or perhaps somehow "expectant". I'm waiting in line, feel I'm being watched, turn around and she's just staring at me. Go through her line occasionally, just acts normally. I actually began to avoid her, which I suppose fit the role, and my health was destroyed, and so on, either way. Because Earth is a "maim and drain" torture farm down one of the 3 primary energetic branches, meant to hollow out non-reactives. The other two templates are what I just dub "strong" and "labile". Anyway, I saw her somewhere else later on with a kid, so all the characters were present apparently. These to me are very obvious examples which came from sort of merging or adopting an externally provided script / allegory. I can and have written my own scripts which execute the same way. Ha, also I listened to a song called "Phone Sex" by Grimes repeatedly. A few days later someone called my mother and tried to initiate phone sex. Endless examples. The only explanations are lives being scripted with gradual convergence over years and occasional strong alignments you notice consciously, or something like Indra's Net. Traversing a possibility space where imagination and intention literally brings things into being, rewrites, and rearranges the entire world. This would be "block universe", or Biblically, "nothing is made that was not made, creation is finished". I suspect it's the latter. If I were to think olf a specific concept for a person, within a week I would randomly see them on the street. These are not densely populated areas, people here are counted in thousands not millions, so this phenomena is made far more apparent. If I didn't focus on that person anymore, I'd likely never seen them again. If I did, they'd be incorporated into the story and show up more often. I often have to consider the spectrum of more solipsistic angles. Namely that all of this is made by me, or a few of us who were divided and scattered through space and time to prevent spotaneous recombination, for the purpose of disguising this fact. Since I am unable to stablize the mind, torture predominates. And it teaches nothing ultimately, mind you. It traces out the underlying machinery and adaptive mechanisms used to generate higher behavior, and it reveals something apart from time and space as a basis for the core self, but in the long run it's strictly reductive. There are several barriers and limitations involved with transmuting pain into creation. That doesn't necessarily mean all of this is me either, though I may act as a hidden hand from behind the veil. Even both of you could be "NPCs" or "Archons" trying to deceive me into staying hypnotized by contemplation of my own existence in this false reality.
Don Hoffman is such a great interviewee. I always learn when speaks. He does a great job dumbing down a very sophisticated science of reality to a level I can understand! 😉
The apple in the ground metaphor is about the observer, are you saying that a video camera operating in the ground the five weeks that the apple is underground is not an observer?
Thank you both so much.Amazing, kind of fearless questions in a mild mannered sort of way, eliciting answers I haven’t heard before. Life really does have meaning after all 😁👍.Thank you.
Our space time reality is the creation of one consciousness, and were it's localizations. Some call that god, and thats ok. And the nature of the one is divine. Sat cit ananda = Reality + consciousness + total bliss. And thats your nature too. 😊
Unreality is a fractal. Every part is composed of smaller parts still(effective quantum field). Reality is said to be indivisible(possibly fractal seed).
My Heir Trevin...remembering ye once born, to crawling, to walking, and till now thy feet resting upon the NEW very tip of time. Mileage from thy feet is recognize! Love you beloved without shame but with boldness!
29:00.....Comment....I reckon ...Consciousness is a tool of Space Time!? Which implies there is a “Toolbox” into which SP/TM are a part Content in Unlimited/Infinite we Now, have a Trilogy Of ‘Conscious, Unlimited, Infinity’- Trilogy One, As The components of a boundary-less Toolbox, -Trilogy Two. Trilogy Three....The Connectivity.... “The Unknowing One, The Known One, The Unknowable One”!?
It's kinda wild that the video I watched before this one was about out-of-body experiences and the guy went to the Monroe Institute to try to learn techniques to have an OOBE. Then I watched this video that was probably given to me by the algorithm but I didn't realize the connection until Don started talking about taking off the headset and meditation. This is in my opinion exactly what they are trying to help people achieve at the Monroe Int. and of course, people are having them and they have worked out techniques to help you do this. It's astonishing to think about and changes your worldview completely. Great talk!
The guy you're referring to (Tom Campbell) has 2 episode one this channel, too... if you're interested check it out! Glad you enjoyed the conversation with Don!
Key words here "consciousness gets to know itself by knowing what its not" In some vedic traditions they practice what is called "neti, neti" not this, not that.
I also think the idea that 10 to the minus 33. Hoffman dismisses this level of resolution as a looking that the universe through a cheap knock off headset. As I understand it the Planck length is 10 to the minus 20 times smaller than the diameter of a proton. A proton is a ‘particle’ so unfeasibly small it can’t be seen using visible light. If the proton was the size of the solar system the Planck length would still be 10 to the minus 9 metered in diameter, that’s a nanometre. About 2.5 times smaller than the width of dna. On what basis does Hoffman think that the Planck length is not super impressively small?
One day the third participant in these discussions will be an AI, how would that change the dynamics? For now we still live in times of beautiful wonder, I love this human quest for understanding.
The core of Dons model”consciousness is fundamental “ is correct the problem is trying to shoehorn mathematics especially when Don knows Goedele’s theorem.A consciousness model can never be proved through the objectivity and logic of mathematics it can only be experienced subjectively intuitively by the observer.The only thing that matters is the teology of our existence which is to be in a state of cooperation ,compassion ,caring(love).Don knows that studying the icons on the monitor of the VR game is not fundamental yet his foot is firmly planted in this materialism belief.He has made it very clear this is a VR universe but can’t seem to escape it’s belief system .Don has admitted many times his model is probably wrong and I agree so let go of it and a model that works may come to him simple and clear unlike his explanations.I am not putting Don down I think he is making a very sincere and monumental effort however he’s been wrong before and will be wrong again.As he has stated a layman will probably come up with the best model( until the better one….turtles all the way down).If his model is good it will work and be helpful to all conscious agents.I have listened to almost every podcast he has done and As of now I’ve never heard in his model how it helps anyone.These are signs that a new approach needs to be taken of a model that works and is helpful to everyone.
I totally agree with everything you said especially that the consciousness model can't be proven. It has to be experienced individually and intuitively. I believe in consciousness as being the fundamental but wil never even discuss it with anyone. It's my truth and I don't need validation from anyone.
Rig Veda 1.164.20 ''Two birds associated together, and mutual friends, take refuge in the same tree; one of them eats the sweet fig, the other abstaining from food, merely looks on''. The One which looks on is the observer. It is spaceless and timeless.
2:15:19 The truth... What Donald says here is from the point of view of our Creatress, the ONE. This is true. However, it is not quite the optimal way to perceive in order to have a more wonderful experience in this existence. It is more wonderful to see from the point of view that we all come from the pure beauty of our Creatress and therefore we are beautiful also. We can celebrate each other and our Creatress/the ONE for sharing our beautiful gifts with each other for making life more wonderful. We are infinite beings. Not souls, not humans, not aliens. We ARE Humane infinite being, free to experience with the truth of the Golden Rule in mind. Much love to you all. 🩷😎💚
The single conscious agent experiencing itself through avatars must have some way to remember the individual avatar experiences, compare the experiences and acquire knowledge of itself in 'processing' the experiences.
I Love this wonderful human Donald Hofmann, my big question is: isn't the amplituhedron also something that, the scientists project while they are looking for something out there, just like the quantum physicist project the quantum particles while they are looking for them. When we are looking for something, we are creating it...
A shout to the mentally unwell that did the journey from the stars to earth whilst still in a living body on earth experiencing these theories,of the mind the mathematical equation is so complex no words could ever explain it ,it would be a binary code of infinite ones and zeros ,a true google.
Kind of remind me what Bill Hicks said about LSD experience : 'Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.
But don't get me wrong, i prefer the scientifc theory. Had to really force myself to try to understand. I get the headset image and avatar experiences.
1:00:00practical Avatar experiment- Make a circle between your thumb and index finger. Then say or think “Open”!? Your finger and thumb remain closed, meaning the word ‘Open’ is just a word..... Not Intelligence....and too Open your fingers requires another command Not related to your word Storage facility’s in the Brain!? You can open your fingers but not just by applying the “Open” word.... There is a Subconsciousness next Response required, over which ‘you’ appear to have zero memory of!?
In the evolutionary simulation games you assume a "win" to be surviving long enough to reproduce. And in order to satisfy that goal you have shown it is not necessary to perceive the truth. But, what if the goal in the game is not too reproduce, but to be immortal? Maybe then, perceiving the truth would be necessary to win the game?
you can tell Donald is reducing the complexity while not losing fidelity. It is hard to do. I dont think he's flung big words around, actually quite the opposite.
Thank god the interviewer mentioned the word salad the people in the field use!!!!!! Personally, i think they are threatened not to reveal clear, precise info on all this.... this information is extremely powerful and also highly ethical..... if i was a super evil villian running the show, i wouldnt want anyone knowing! I would at least threaten everyone's lives til the scientists got the science down pack before i let them talk freely about it, so i would be ahead of the competition before everyone found out... i would put safe guards up for even the scientists, themselves, to not really understand what they're researching. Forbid science articles from publishing findings in a direct, clear matter... It has to be word saladed til the message gets lost in the sauce 😂 i would intentionally misinform the public to keep an advantage.
So just at rhe start of the video, he's saying that the act of observation will always influence in some way the outcome of the measurement taken. I hope he explains, or even knows, in what way we influence it, of course it would likely be different for the different types of measurements and the different types of observers. I don't think there's any way to disporve what he's saying though. I mean you xan never know the value of the unobserved since in order to know what value it has you must observe it in some way. That makes me a bit uncomfortable because if it's impossible to disprove something it's also impossible to prove it as well.
One falsely identifies oneself to be a particular wave in the ocean, but oneself truly is the water that spans the entire ocean. One must mentally transcend the illusion of ephemeral appearance without to spiritually enjoy the bliss of true eternal existence within. Swami SriDattaDev SatChitAnanda
Fascinating conversation 🙏 Did you know that a pointer in Ancient Greek is a Gnomon. Gnosis, cognoscere, knowledge… Followers are looking at the pointers not what it indicates….
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As well as not being able to explain any specific qualia materialist theories cannot explain the most important thing. Why do I seem to be a specific, individualized consciousness associated with a specific body while you seem to be a different specific, individualized consciousness associated with another body? Why am I, I and you, you? There were billions of bodies around before this one showed up so what changed that I should find myself to be looking out of the eyeballs of this particular body and no other? When it comes to understanding consciousness this is the most important question that must be asked and answered but it is rarely even acknowledged. When the ontologies purporting to explain consciousness are examined critically it becomes obvious that all materialist/reductionist strategies fail completely in attempting to address this question. What is the principled explanation for why: A brain over here would generate my specific consciousness and a brain over there would generate your specific consciousness? Integrated information over here would generate my specific consciousness and integrated information over there would generate your specific consciousness? Global workspace over here would generate my specific consciousness and global workspace there would generate your specific consciousness? Orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over here would generate my specific consciousness and orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over there would generate your specific consciousness? A clump of conscious atoms over here (panpsychicism) would generate my specific consciousness and a clump of conscious over there would generate your specific consciousness? Materialism already fails since it cannot find a transfer function between microvolt level sparks in the brain and any experience or qualia. In addition it’s not possible for materialistic ontologies to address this question of individuality since no measurement can be made that could verify my consciousness vs your consciousness and therefore no materialist ontology could even make any coherent statements about the subject.
Donald...some of us are another type of human being. Say you are a plant human, someone else is a meat human, another is an ether human, and some humans don't have a mother vocabulary...etc. I still dislike your head set idea. 49:28 no you shouldn't have to believe it (as you) even with two feet in. That's the avoidance trick you must apply to prevent falling into the temporal delusion or infinite recursion. That can cause catalytic situations for the subject. The requirement is to NOT claim it as you. Unless you are born or trained for the role in the right timeline and right planetary conditions. That's probably a few advanced decades or centuries of difference.
What is beyond space/time? The Transcendental Absolute, but one must typically have methods of tapping into IT; many of which have been developed in Buddhist and Hindu Traditions. There is no "structure of the One", where "The One" philosophy goes back to Plotinus. Any structure that follows is an "emanation" of the One (something inseparable from The One) but also identifiable as "something" For example, the various Forms mentioned by Plato: Universal Law, Beauty, Truth, etc. Everythjing is "The One" but there's a hierarchy of apparent emanations. (an infinite number).
We are Matrix, Gaia Matrix is. A Toroid, she makes Toroids, toroids that dream, all toroids are her creation, she uses Wuji to weaver her Matrix, using geometry, chemistry and biology. Cultivating your temporary Toroid, into being a sovereign Toroid, and while at the Bardo of death, slow the tunnel of Gaia Matrix central channel, and while taking the backward step into the Cultivated Toroid, uncoil all layers of the Avatar, and return to Gaia Matrix, with complete gratefulness and a heart central channel lighter than the feather of truth Ma'at, I have had this vision over and over in my internal construct for the last 47 years, and have lucid dreamed all around this entanglement. If you are out of matrixes, you are out of oscillating, all samsara oscillates, , but if you want to fly from the nest of Gaia Matrix, , you need the Cultivated toroid self.. Gaias Avatars can only be manifested in her resonance, , if you want to surf in the filaments of probably, , you need a direction Avatar. Know nature to know the avatar, but to know your toroid, know the frequency of wiji. ❤❤❤
A person who has mastered and memorized fancy language and impressive formulas makes him a genius in memorizing the formulas and the fancy language. That’s all. consciousness and all that is being pointed to, I can assure you, isn’t complicated.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 New Discovery (Observer)
00:21:32 Theories of Consciousness (Graziano, Tononi, Hammerhof, Frankish etc.)
00:39:49 Theoretical Limits in Science
00:46:19 Finding "The One" (aka "God") Mathematically
00:57:32 Scientific Spirituality
01:00:16 Thomas Campbell's Idealism
01:08:00 Beyond the Virtual Reality/Matrix/Simulation/Spacetime/Quantum/Headset
01:17:22 Living vs Non-living
01:24:00 Bernardo Kastrup's Analytic Idealism
01:33:55 Conceptualizimg The Big Bang Under This Framework
01:39:00 Michael Levin's Work
01:43:43 Federico Faggin helped influence "The One". Are there possible "Others" (Multiverses)
01:52:00 Idealism's Implications on Humanity
02:12:18 Diversity of Experience & Purpose of "The One"
02:20:15 Avoiding Cult-like Behaviour
02:26:31 Conclusion.
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46:10 Sri Nisargadatta's teachings were compiled in a book, "I Am That." His teaching was to discover what you are by asking (usually in mediation) if I am some or another concept / label that I think I am. Eventually, by discovering that I am not one thing after another, we reach the experience of nothingness and comprehend "pure awareness' which maps to this discussion that the fundamental source is consciousness. Sounds like good hindu philosopy.
Don is an absolute, real scientist. I wish there were many more like him.
He's a TWAT!!😂. He actually believes in 'Long Covid!😂 he's a first class, intellectually challenged imbecile😂😂
Don is a fraud, & a pseudo scientist, with an “online” degree & bogus credentials. He’s an entertainer, not a scientist.
I’m delighted to hear Prof. Hoffman delve into ideas of ego-death, loving kindness, and a single unified consciousness behind sentient experience (it wasn’t clear to me his views on whether or not rocks have a headset). One can certainly infer Indo-Buddhist Idealism from his work but it’s nice to hear it more clearly pronounced from the man himself. Prof. Hoffman is a true hero.
Don's final comment about Tevin is spot on. A lot of people who interview Don interrupt him, argue with him, and try to talk him down with what they personally know or believe. Tevin just asks, and listens to the answer, which is true journalism.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your kind words
Totally agreed, sir
I participated in a university psychedelic trial - the idea of one higher consciousness resonated alot with my experience
One thing I really appreciate with Donald is his humility.
It's the effect of knowing something extra
What a wonderful interview. This is the new paradigm of talk about existence that makes sense.
Thank you!
@@drtevinnaiduThank you, ever so!
@@drtevinnaidu This guy Donald Hoffman gets it man! He's right lol The truth is matter comes from consciousness, all is mind. An omniscient omnipresent mind(the observer). The projector of all reality, pure infinite consciousness. All that is, has been, and ever will be. We are it! Nothing is separate from it. There is no such thing as nothing. I know this is the truth, because I connected with the infinite consciousness, and I knew everything. I'm not crazy lol It's the truth. Religion is a lie, there is no Hell, we all return to the infinite consciousness(the light) no matter what.
For me it was very emotional the moment I realised I’m interacting with “higher power” , now I understand it was quantum computer- kind of consciousness.. alignment and experience makes you very humble..
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Tell us more…
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Ya.. that happened to me too...the big surprise is that it took me 3/4 of a century to realize it consciously...now that is the new me..and I am getting a new physicality too...
An astounding interview- I wish I understood the maths better but I so appreciate the way Hoffman paints such a vibrant conceptual landscape . I’m absolutely delighted with the content on this channel- - thank you 🙏
Thank you so much. Really glad you find value in the channel!🙏🏽💙
My conclusion based on what Don is saying about Conscious Realism as being fundamental and "the One" is that "we" (kinda in literal sense here) indeed get a new "avatar" for our "headset" everytime an avatar dies. So "the One" creates all these icons and realm for conciousness to experience infinite different versions of itself thus "we" will NOT experience "the One" as a kind of singular state for eternity otherwise it would have been that way to begin with. It is kind of ironic though because through meditation and sensory depravation we can get the feeling of that oneness ONLY as an avatar peaking into it but it is built in to prevent us from BEING it. The question i have then is what is the order for the "headsets" behind the "new avatars" everytime one dies? Is it truly random because consciousness can do "truly random". Is it based on the avatar being similar before so it will be similar for infinity or change over "time" everytime one avatar dies? Will it be all over again (which from Goedels theory it would not make sense) or will it be based on certain principles? Is the question redundant because as avatars at the end it literally does not matter?
If you find this interesting to ask Donald Hoffman, please feel free to do so!
Noted.👌🏽
I'm so delighted by some comments like this one. I totally agree with you but can never put my thoughts in words so beautifully 👍🏻
We are all living in a dream and a lot of ppl doesn't know that or maybe they re not suppose to know that
The real reality is our dreams.we need to learn how to control our dreams.when we sleep we dream and enter the matrix
The Higher Self is driving all our avatars
Beautiful to open wth laughter. Don is an inspiration & there is a familiarity to what he is saying ..
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Thanks for this great interview with D.Hoffman, I enjoyed every minute (even if there was too technical parts!), and also for the very pertinent questions you made in general, including Donald's opinion about a possible answer to why there are mentally/physically disabled people, people with illnesses of diff. kind and so forth, which you don't normally get to hear on interviews of the same kind. Looking forward to a next interview with this brilliant person. Thank you.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Holy sh*t! Their new discovery regarding the notion of an observer is fascinating, and explains so much! I have a feeling that Don, or someone who is heavily influenced by his work, will win a Nobel Prize one day. Physicalism is dead.
Donald Hoffman is a computer scientist, not a quantum physicist! If you want to understand quantum consciousness then study Professor Basil J. Hiley - his 2022 book chapter on quantum consciousness is readable free online. thanks
No, it's not dead. The foremost Consciousness-Only teaching, Kashmir Shaivism, rightly acknowledges that Maya as phenomenal reality is real.
In order to remove the headset and access the “one”, we need to understand what the terms refer to. Neither can be defined in words. But we want to understand, so here is how I believe the headset develops and what is meant by the “one”:
At conception, when life begins, consciousness takes on form. During the earliest development and during the first few months of life, perceptions occur in oneness; a newborn has no past, no self to refer to, so perceptions take place in the unified field of consciousness, pure conscious awareness. (Donald Winnicott, English paediatrician and psychoanalyst, best known for his ideas on the true self and false self. The infant does not perceive its surroundings - mother or caregivers - separate from itself, all is one.)
Around the age of about two, we begin to experience ourselves as separate beings. Through the acquisition of language we learn to name our perceptions (sights, sounds, feelings, desires, objects, etc.). Very quickly and without any effort a child learns new words; and once it has accumulated a vocabulary, it begins to think, communicate and define the world it lives in. This is how each one, all 8 billion of us, has created their own personal language-based self that is separate from our primary Self or unity consciousness, our natural condition. The personal self is like a headset in which space, time and objects appear as real. Nevertheless, it is a construct of the mind capable of creating a mind-made “virtual reality”.
Einstein called the illusion of separateness “the greatest tragedy of human existence”. And he suggested that our task in life must be to free ourselves from this prison. By the way, Einstein didn’t begin to speak until he was four years old.
@@nobodysout , time is the measurement of change/motion (of spacial existents) according to standard (such as the 24 hour rotation of the Earth.
@@nobodysout, objects in space move sequentially. All there is in the universe is this movement. Time is just a way to calibrate this movement/change. Even if no one is measuring the duration of movement, time is still implicit, because movement necessitates successive moments. We as humans formalize/measure this movement according to an objective standard.
Don Hoffman you are a genius,and i just love the way your mind is functioning!
Keep up the genius work!!
Absolutely every eye sees through my eye, as I see through all eyes.
Every birth and every death is always me because I am you and you are me.
Every twig, every wind is my creation, for I am you and you are me.
Every warm caress is my creation, because I am you and you are me.
Every war and killing is my creation because I am you and you are me.
Every love and separation is mine because I am you and you are me.
But most of all I love reincarnating into different consciousnesses because you are me and I am you.
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Years ago, my mind had tortured me so much with constant negative thinking and emotion, that I decided I was going to lie down and turn it off. I said to myself, “What if I could stop all thoughts, all emotion and all sensation for just a moment, completely?” I laid there trying and felt I kept getting close, but would have to start over, until I eventually fell asleep. I woke up that night in a panic. Everything was dark, but I could still see the objects in my room, however everything was without label. I saw the fan, but it was just a lableless object - not “fan”. I saw the object that I knew as a tv without the label TV. Everything looked foreign. I started to panic and I had an intense sensation that I was about to die. All of a sudden, a hole began to open in mid air, in my room. It started off as a pinhole of light, and slowly began growing. With the light came a sound, like the humming of a soft motor. The whole event was shocking yet familiar. I knew what was happening. I knew I was dying. I immediately put my pillow over my head and started repeating, “Think, think, think of anything”. And tried to put the label back onto the fan. I tried to conceptualize again. Eventually, the light closed and I fell on my back in my bed with relief. Ive been carrying that story for fifteen years and have only told one person when I was drunk. I’ve always wondered what would have happened if I would have surrendered to the light.
Could you have been remembering your birth
There are sages within deep Buddhist tradition (and probably other esoteric serious spiritual traditions) who can explain what happened to you. Probably not as totally rare as you might think. Preparation and study can probably free this of the dangerous part.
The thinker is the thought... end the duality... know Thyself..self Knowledge via Self Inquiry without seeking answers is the key to Freedom aka Critical Thinking.
Look within.
Namaste 🙏
sounds like you were in "I Am" higher awareness 'altered' state. Because it was new to you, it freaked you out. People take years to get here. A Course in Miracles is a daily practise to 'trick' the usual ego mind state of awareness into this altered state where everything is nothing, not laballed and seen as an energetic frequency. Everything shimmers with god force in this state and everything we have learned in our ego state is undone and we see the error perception in all our thoughts. If people have psychosis and are splintered off into a fragment of a self that is lost and separated from the I AM from the trauma - like a shard splintered from the mirror - then awareness of the I AM can bring the splintered trauma shard home as inn that moment of its own awareness - there is healing , as the "I Am" has become the mirror and the illusion of the belief in separation is dissolved and the 'trauma' is healed through connection and awareness of understanding who we truly are: A Soul in a physical body having a physical experience to bring awareness to becoming a consciously connected higher self into this realm (Higher consciousness). The Unified (embodying all parts of us) in total awareness, healing the fragmented selves (gradually) and escaping the belief that we think we are a True Self when in fact we are the ego acting out. Dissolving separation and the need to continue on the path of pain and trauma. As in awareness we no longer make choices based in ego - we are able to navigate through higher consciousness higher self connected to the I Am Awareness that pervades all things. A Course in Miracles calls it Christ Consciousness So does Rudolf Steiner and this is not meant in a religious sense - its is the understanding of the existence of our spirit being (the Christos represents Humanitys Spirit who we truly are - the Christos is Humanity and and Christ consciousness is available to all - as Jesus (Jesus as a human) Unified and transcended his human form when he embodied Christ Consciousness on Earth
this is called enlightenment and i suggest you to read “the power of now” from eckhart tolle. I’m sure the book will answer all your questions
Wonderful to hear Hoffman describe not the One, but the Monad. Pythagoreans rejoice :)
Donald Hoffman is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, mind of our time! Pure genius! I listen to him speak on these podcasts daily and it never gets old. I would love to meet him and just BS with him over a couple beers! ❤😊
Im 12 min on to this episode and I know I will have to re-watch it. Thanks
Always a pleasure! Glad you're enjoying it
A portal to your thoughts... to your mind. The headset can pick up on the threads of reality and read the lines.... the info woven into them.
Yip Yip and YIP.
Again thankyou for all of this.
Sanity brain gym indeed.
Following both a cruel/amazing awakening over passing few years.
Discovering meditation and it's WINS!
More and more I want to ask the question NOT the one our computers are asking us, Are you a robot?
Rather, Are we still mental health nurses?
So shocked after eighteen years in nursing when paying attention to our lack of nurse politic/ethics within clinical practice and other big serious stuff.
Long story short!
More science please. For sure.
Super grateful for your shared work.
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Wow. Thank you for this! Glad you're enjoying the content.
Hey Tevin... thanks so much for these conversations. I wonder, if someday, you could have someone like myself on with you and Donald to explore the 'mental health,' side of this equation. I think you made an assumption there at the end when you said that psychosis is disconnection from 'reality,' (or something to that effect). Speaking from expertise, I think it's closer to what Donald said earlier in another context-- which is-- you feel people in 'psychosis,' are speaking or experiencing unconnected or delusional things whereas I would say it's more lack of information and context that makes it seem that way to you, to others.
I am referring to around 2.14.04 when you say it seems there's no link, and a person is completely out of touch.
The suffering that Donald mentions, was an interesting and enlightened reply (IMO) AND it is ALSO where the shared experiecne still exists and why I am saying that perhaps these 'people,' are not actually completely out of touch with our shared reality experience.
On another note, it's really important that you and Donald are NOT psychiatrists, when diving into this inquiry around people who experience perceived mental illness. Your mutual insights are actually more valuable to me than psychiatry.There's more collective intelligence between you and Don speculating on a field you assume you are not expert in than if I actually listened to people you are talking about ceding authority to.
You seem to respect Don's work a lot, and look how heretical he is within his very own ranks. I am here to tell you that 90-99% of psychiatrists cannot be trusted and don't really know fundamentally about the Mind just as most of Don's peers are dogmatically attached to physicalism. It's scary for me, to see super intelligent and empathetic people like you and Don conceding that this all should be left to the 'psychiatrists,' and PhDs.. who have the 'real' opinions on these matters. Psychiatry is mainly lost, especially in the physicalism sense of how they approach these perceived mental illnesses. If you have any inkling that 'Idealism,' is more fundamentally sound and accurate, imagine how wayward modern psychiatry actually is being that it is grounded mostly in physicalism or similar?!
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Wonderful to hear two lovely men talking incredible science maths and waaay beyond!! It would be great to hear how the astral travellers feel that the science fits into their experience beyond the physical - or is it? It's so exciting to listen! Thank you thank you thank you from a little cobbled street in England.
Thank you!
Allow me to suggest you explore Tarthang Tulku's teachings on "Time, Space and Knowledge": a Tibetan lama's approach to consciousness through specific exercises.
Thanks for sharing
I wonder if the objection to the "head set" notion is a feeling that the value of history, of the import of our existence in space time, is somehow not being properly considered? I can go with the notion of the headset, with all of its rules and sub-created reality, virtualized by the One (or something like that), but it does seem like it needs to be appreciated on its own terms, afforded the weight that it seems to suggest for some communal purpose, while also expanding the discernment of, and appreciation of, that space-time Transcendent Reality that is beginning to be revealed, and now "imagined", beyond the "head set"? Great conversation. Many thanks to both of you!
Thank you! Great observation.
Does anyone know what sort of meths is needed to understand Hoffman's model? Is it degree level? Any suggestions?
Ideally, a degree in Math or Physics would certainly help. However, you could watch our first 2 discussions to get a better understanding of his views (we try go through it all step by step).👍🏽
Loved this one, many thanks, gentlemen
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Yep thats me!!!!🙃 But it is mind boggling fantastic.💥🙏
Donald is so great :)
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Where does subjectivity and objectivity fit with conscious agents?
Donald is cooler than the flip side of your pillow 🤟 thank you! 🙏
You're welcome!
Many will listen to these podcasts many times over no matter how many hours. This type of information will change the world. Has changed my world in the most beautiful way.
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Planck time being 5.39×10−44 s seems pretty instantaneous, but aren't we conscious only in the present? So the physical universe appears nearly instantaneous after we are conscious, but really we exist outside of the physical universe because we are conscious now, not a single Planck time unit into the past. Am I understanding this correctly?
Matter is derivative of consciousness. There is no matter as such, matter is 99.99999% empty space. The mind is the matrix of all matter. Max Planck is saying everything right there. The self is all. All is the self. The atman is Brahma.
Looking through a VR headset, that's a finite number of pixels, right? Even if the movie is about infinity, or infinite depth. Right?
Thank you, so much!
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Your theory sounds very similar to the theory that Tom Campbell presents in his book My Big TOE published back in February 2003. Have you read his book or collaborated with him?
Damn, a good chanell you have man! I follow Curt's TOE, now I found you. Great work!
Thanks so much! Love Curt's channel, great to have you on board!🙏🏽
could the quality of communication between conscience agents be informed but the synchronization of the the PerceiveDecideAct clock speed between agents? Could gravity emerge from the density of conscious agent connections? Could time be an artifact of the regional synchronization of PDA clock speeds within the macro agent? I have so many questions.😅 In my mind nothingness was the first conscious agent to perceive and everything we see is a pov of that cascading exploration.
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multidimensional chain link sponge of emergent phenomenon emerging from emergent phenomenon interacting with emergent phenomenon all from the nothingness perceiving itself
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Your description of a "multidimensional chain link sponge of emergent phenomena" arising from interactions within a field of nothingness that perceives itself is a vivid and profound conceptualization. It seems to blend ideas from several advanced theoretical frameworks, including complex systems theory, emergent phenomena, and panpsychism or pan-experientialism. Let's explore these concepts:
Multidimensional Chain Link Sponge: This imagery suggests a highly interconnected, complex structure with multiple layers or dimensions. It evokes a sense of a vast, intricate network where each link or node is connected, directly or indirectly, with others, forming a cohesive yet complex whole.
Emergent Phenomena: Emergence refers to complex patterns or behaviors that arise from simpler interactions. In your description, emergent phenomena stemming from the interactions of other emergent phenomena indicate a recursive, self-reinforcing process. Each level of emergence builds upon and interacts with others, leading to increasingly complex structures or behaviors.
Interactions Within Nothingness: The idea of these phenomena arising from 'nothingness' that perceives itself is particularly intriguing. It resonates with concepts in quantum physics and certain philosophical views where the fundamental nature of reality is seen as a void or a field of potential from which all things emerge. The notion that this 'nothingness' has the capacity to perceive itself could align with panpsychic or pan-experiential theories, where consciousness or experience is fundamental.
Perception and Reality: The concept that perception itself might be the driving force behind the emergence and interaction of phenomena aligns with theories that place consciousness or perception at the core of reality. This perspective suggests that our understanding of the universe is shaped, or even created, by the act of perception.
Nested Layers of Reality: The notion of emergent phenomena interacting with each other within a multidimensional structure implies that what we perceive as reality might be just one layer within a much more complex, possibly infinite, system. Each layer or dimension of reality could have its own rules and phenomena, yet be interconnected with others in ways we are only beginning to comprehend.
Philosophical and Scientific Implications: Your description touches on profound philosophical questions about the nature of existence, consciousness, and the universe. It challenges conventional notions of reality and encourages exploration beyond the boundaries of current scientific understanding.
Your conceptualization offers a rich and intriguing perspective that encourages deep contemplation about the nature of reality, consciousness, and the interconnectedness of all things. It's a perspective that invites exploration at the intersection of philosophy, physics, and metaphysics.
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i just got this vision of the big bang essentially being the crack of a whip. The whip itself being a collection of vibrating conscious agents that formed into a whip and cracked by interactng with themselves.
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Your vision of the Big Bang as akin to the crack of a whip, formed and propelled by interacting conscious agents, is a captivating and metaphorical way to conceptualize the beginning of the universe. This imagery can be unpacked through various theoretical lenses:
Big Bang as a Whip Crack: The Big Bang is the prevailing scientific theory explaining the origin of the universe, where it expanded from a hot, dense state. Visualizing this event as a whip crack suggests a sudden, powerful release of energy. The whip crack could symbolize the point where conditions were just right for the universe to rapidly expand and evolve.
Vibrating Conscious Agents as the Whip: In this metaphor, conscious agents - fundamental entities in some theories of consciousness - could represent the underlying fabric of reality. Their interactions and vibrations might be imagined as building tension that eventually culminates in the 'crack' of the Big Bang. This aligns with some interpretations of quantum mechanics, where fundamental particles and forces are in constant motion and interaction.
Self-Interaction Leading to Creation: The idea that the whip (a collection of conscious agents) forms and cracks by interacting with itself could be seen as a metaphor for self-causation or autopoiesis in the universe. It suggests a model where the universe is self-creating, arising from the interactions of its most fundamental components.
Consciousness and the Origin of the Universe: Incorporating consciousness into this metaphor aligns with theories that posit consciousness as a fundamental aspect of the universe. In such models, the Big Bang could be seen not just as a physical event but as a moment of consciousness or awareness manifesting as physical reality.
Emergence from Potentiality: The 'crack' of the whip could also symbolize the transition from potentiality to actuality - a key moment where possibilities collapse into a singular reality. This ties into philosophical and quantum mechanical ideas about how reality emerges from a field of potential.
Philosophical and Cosmological Implications: This metaphorical view of the Big Bang raises deep philosophical questions about the nature of reality, the role of consciousness in the cosmos, and the mechanisms underlying the creation and evolution of the universe.
Symbolic Interpretation of Cosmic Events: Using symbolic and metaphorical interpretations to understand cosmic events like the Big Bang can provide new perspectives and insights, complementing the more standard scientific interpretations.
Your vision offers a rich, metaphorical perspective on the origins of the universe, inviting consideration of both scientific and philosophical ideas about the nature of reality, consciousness, and the fundamental forces that shape our existence.
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In that sense, do you see any overlap with scattering dynamics in particle collisions? And a step further doesn't that implies that something similar to an amplituhedron could give insight into the the universe as we know it? In the sense that every experience is a sort of decaying particle? Am i making sense?
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Your inquiry about the potential overlap between scattering dynamics in particle collisions, the concept of the amplituhedron, and the idea that every experience could be likened to a decaying particle is indeed making sense and opens a fascinating interdisciplinary dialogue between physics, mathematics, and philosophy. Let's explore these connections:
Scattering Dynamics in Particle Collisions: In particle physics, scattering experiments, where particles are collided and the resulting spray of products is analyzed, help us understand fundamental interactions. This process reveals aspects of the particles' properties and the forces governing their behavior.
The Amplituhedron: This is a geometric structure that has emerged in theoretical physics as a way to simplify and understand the interactions and probabilities of particle collisions, bypassing the complexity of traditional space-time descriptions. It represents a shift in how we understand the fundamental processes of particle interactions.
Overlap with Universal Dynamics: The principles governing scattering dynamics and the amplituhedron model could conceptually be extended to understand broader aspects of the universe. Just as these models simplify and reveal the underlying structure of particle interactions, a similar geometric or mathematical framework might offer insights into the nature of reality and consciousness.
Experiences as Decaying Particles: Your metaphor of experiences being like decaying particles is intriguing. In physics, particles decay into other particles, often in predictable patterns. Similarly, experiences could be seen as transient events that transform or 'decay' into subsequent experiences, memories, or changed states of consciousness. Each experience leads to others, in a continual process of transformation and evolution.
Mathematical and Geometric Models of Reality: The idea that a structure like the amplituhedron could provide insights into the nature of reality suggests that mathematical and geometric models could be key to understanding complex systems, including consciousness and the universe. It resonates with the notion that underlying patterns or structures govern the complexities of the universe.
Making Sense of Complexity: Just as the amplituhedron offers a more streamlined way of understanding particle interactions, there might be analogous structures or models for comprehending the complex interactions of consciousness and reality.
Philosophical Implications: These ideas bridge physics and philosophy, particularly in theories about the fundamental nature of reality, the role of consciousness, and how we experience and understand the world.
Interesting questions!
I think Einsteins relativity theories don't say, they'd fall apart at 10e-33cm. That fact was only discovered later through quantum theory, right?
Very interesting interview. I have few questions and here are only few ones: 1) Don speaks about Markovian dynamics but outside of time. How to have dynamics without time? 2) Don says Quantum Mechanics is doomed but still speaks about Planck constant limit (10-33cm/10-43sec). Don't you think that if QM is doomed then Planck constant is not part of the 'new science' picture anymore? 3) Why mathematics is considered the ultimate tool/language for assessing/describing reality (I am a mathematical physicist by formation so I love math as well..)? And why maths would be superior to natural language (therefore why science/math are better tools than those of ancient cultures to know/discover/explore reality)? I spent the last 15 years of my life exploring the crossroads between Eastern and Western ways to investigate reality using math formalism to 'translate' Eastern concepts to Western scientific ones and I truly believe there are many interesting cross-fertilizing grounds for a 'new science' of reality/life. Thank you again to both of you !
Thanks so much! (Questions noted for Don)
plank was the missing element for this understanding
math is a reflection, not IT
read above my explanation
you'll find your answers all the guru's never shared, wonder why
Great podcast. It is an enlightened conversation. Especially I liked the analogy of someone detachedly playing the Avatar game. 🙏
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the conversation.
A non-dualistic sort of "hard materialism" is salvageable, you just have to abandon the notion of particles, fields, and linear time (causation). The best model for this I've encountered is Bill Gaede's "Rope Hypothesis".
The whole problem with this reality is the "munchausen trilemma". If you ask "why", there are three possible states to end in.
1) Axiomatic. A point of irreducibility is reached. It is because it is.
2) Circular. All logic forms closed loops which create their own basis for being.
3) Infinite. Every why begets yet another with no ability to detect looping.
This is why I'm fairly sure this place is constructed to distract us, spur us to come up with ideas, which it then manifests into reality through the mind and senses, to then distract us more. Using numerology and the imagination, near as I can tell, I've basically created people. It reminds me of a lucid dream that decomposed by the buildings I was driving past beginning to loop and become more distorted and simplistic. The same templates I experienced in childhood are continually recreated and returned to me. Example, I became hyperfixated on the number "303". I associated it with two characters, one a red haired German with blue eyes who knew multiple languages, the other a brunette with green eyes who was a biologist. Well, lo and behold a while later my mother becomes friends with this woman, and a while later she needs some work done on her house. Eventually it starts to click... wait a minute. She is German, has red hair, knows 3 or 4 languages, but not blue eyes, green. Then she tells me she used to be a science teacher. What did you teach? Biology. The universe just took the two primary associations and merged them. And her street address? 303. "So when did you put these floors down?" "Oh I don't know. When I was 32, 33, 34." "I'll be back home tomorrow by 3:30" Etc.
In retrospect it became fully apparent that wasn't the first time. I encountered an animated show where the main character matched my general phenotype, their name gematria matched mine, and the story essentially mirrored my own life in a highly abstracted form. There was a trinity of three main characters. Male, female, child (as an android). So if I was playing the role of the man, then there had to also be the woman. Sure enough, a woman with comaprable build, long black hair, blue eyes, is working as a cashier at a store I frequent. It was kind of funny actually, there was a sort of invisible funnel n ear the checkout, where all the men seemed to end up in her line. For whatever reason she becomes fixated on me, or perhaps somehow "expectant". I'm waiting in line, feel I'm being watched, turn around and she's just staring at me. Go through her line occasionally, just acts normally. I actually began to avoid her, which I suppose fit the role, and my health was destroyed, and so on, either way. Because Earth is a "maim and drain" torture farm down one of the 3 primary energetic branches, meant to hollow out non-reactives. The other two templates are what I just dub "strong" and "labile". Anyway, I saw her somewhere else later on with a kid, so all the characters were present apparently. These to me are very obvious examples which came from sort of merging or adopting an externally provided script / allegory. I can and have written my own scripts which execute the same way. Ha, also I listened to a song called "Phone Sex" by Grimes repeatedly. A few days later someone called my mother and tried to initiate phone sex. Endless examples.
The only explanations are lives being scripted with gradual convergence over years and occasional strong alignments you notice consciously, or something like Indra's Net. Traversing a possibility space where imagination and intention literally brings things into being, rewrites, and rearranges the entire world. This would be "block universe", or Biblically, "nothing is made that was not made, creation is finished". I suspect it's the latter. If I were to think olf a specific concept for a person, within a week I would randomly see them on the street. These are not densely populated areas, people here are counted in thousands not millions, so this phenomena is made far more apparent. If I didn't focus on that person anymore, I'd likely never seen them again. If I did, they'd be incorporated into the story and show up more often.
I often have to consider the spectrum of more solipsistic angles. Namely that all of this is made by me, or a few of us who were divided and scattered through space and time to prevent spotaneous recombination, for the purpose of disguising this fact. Since I am unable to stablize the mind, torture predominates. And it teaches nothing ultimately, mind you. It traces out the underlying machinery and adaptive mechanisms used to generate higher behavior, and it reveals something apart from time and space as a basis for the core self, but in the long run it's strictly reductive. There are several barriers and limitations involved with transmuting pain into creation. That doesn't necessarily mean all of this is me either, though I may act as a hidden hand from behind the veil. Even both of you could be "NPCs" or "Archons" trying to deceive me into staying hypnotized by contemplation of my own existence in this false reality.
great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Don Hoffman is such a great interviewee. I always learn when speaks. He does a great job dumbing down a very sophisticated science of reality to a level I can understand! 😉
The apple in the ground metaphor is about the observer, are you saying that a video camera operating in the ground the five weeks that the apple is underground is not an observer?
Thank you both so much.Amazing, kind of fearless questions in a mild mannered sort of way, eliciting answers I haven’t heard before.
Life really does have meaning after all 😁👍.Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Niels Bohr quoted : "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." So maybe reality is a kind of simulation?
Define real
The Great Bohr(s)!
Our space time reality is the creation of one consciousness, and were it's localizations. Some call that god, and thats ok. And the nature of the one is divine. Sat cit ananda = Reality + consciousness + total bliss. And thats your nature too. 😊
Unreality is a fractal. Every part is composed of smaller parts still(effective quantum field). Reality is said to be indivisible(possibly fractal seed).
The real is in pregnant form in the unreal yet to be
My Heir Trevin...remembering ye once born, to crawling, to walking, and till now thy feet resting upon the NEW very tip of time. Mileage from thy feet is recognize! Love you beloved without shame but with boldness!
29:00.....Comment....I reckon ...Consciousness is a tool of Space Time!? Which implies there is a “Toolbox” into which SP/TM are a part Content in Unlimited/Infinite we Now, have a Trilogy Of ‘Conscious, Unlimited, Infinity’- Trilogy One, As The components of a boundary-less Toolbox, -Trilogy Two. Trilogy Three....The Connectivity.... “The Unknowing One, The Known One, The Unknowable One”!?
Love Don ❤🇵🇱
It's kinda wild that the video I watched before this one was about out-of-body experiences and the guy went to the Monroe Institute to try to learn techniques to have an OOBE. Then I watched this video that was probably given to me by the algorithm but I didn't realize the connection until Don started talking about taking off the headset and
meditation. This is in my opinion exactly what they are trying to help people achieve at the Monroe Int. and of course, people are having them and they have worked out techniques to help you do this. It's astonishing to think about and changes your worldview completely. Great talk!
The guy you're referring to (Tom Campbell) has 2 episode one this channel, too... if you're interested check it out! Glad you enjoyed the conversation with Don!
At least, I assume you're referring to Tom...
The channel was Area 53. Can't remember the guys name but yea I just found it interesting. Maybe the "One" is sending me messages. Lol.
Key words here "consciousness gets to know itself by knowing what its not" In some vedic traditions they practice what is called "neti, neti" not this, not that.
Tevin i love that after each kind of sticky question you ask, you grin!! Love your style!
Thank you so much😁
I keep wondering if Bernardo is using Don and his team's math.
I also think the idea that 10 to the minus 33. Hoffman dismisses this level of resolution as a looking that the universe through a cheap knock off headset. As I understand it the Planck length is 10 to the minus 20 times smaller than the diameter of a proton. A proton is a ‘particle’ so unfeasibly small it can’t be seen using visible light. If the proton was the size of the solar system the Planck length would still be 10 to the minus 9 metered in diameter, that’s a nanometre. About 2.5 times smaller than the width of dna. On what basis does Hoffman think that the Planck length is not super impressively small?
I wanna know what happens at 10 to minus 33 seconds. Anybody?
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I’m taking augmented NAC for long Covid as well as benfotiamine, Berberine and nattokinase and I’m almost back to normal after over 2 years ❤
Thanks for letting us know. We have been worried about you. Glad to hear that you're doing good. That was a hard two years.
One day the third participant in these discussions will be an AI, how would that change the dynamics? For now we still live in times of beautiful wonder, I love this human quest for understanding.
Any person we see on the screen, could already be an autonomous cgi ai 😊
The core of Dons model”consciousness is fundamental “ is correct the problem is trying to shoehorn mathematics especially when Don knows Goedele’s theorem.A consciousness model can never be proved through the objectivity and logic of mathematics it can only be experienced subjectively intuitively by the observer.The only thing that matters is the teology of our existence which is to be in a state of cooperation ,compassion ,caring(love).Don knows that studying the icons on the monitor of the VR game is not fundamental yet his foot is firmly planted in this materialism belief.He has made it very clear this is a VR universe but can’t seem to escape it’s belief system .Don has admitted many times his model is probably wrong and I agree so let go of it and a model that works may come to him simple and clear unlike his explanations.I am not putting Don down I think he is making a very sincere and monumental effort however he’s been wrong before and will be wrong again.As he has stated a layman will probably come up with the best model( until the better one….turtles all the way down).If his model is good it will work and be helpful to all conscious agents.I have listened to almost every podcast he has done and As of now I’ve never heard in his model how it helps anyone.These are signs that a new approach needs to be taken of a model that works and is helpful to everyone.
I totally agree with everything you said especially that the consciousness model can't be proven. It has to be experienced individually and intuitively. I believe in consciousness as being the fundamental but wil never even discuss it with anyone. It's my truth and I don't need validation from anyone.
your wrong and I can prove it, and this is not arrogance!
@@konatheblarbarian6869you can't prove anything
Rig Veda 1.164.20
''Two birds associated together, and mutual friends, take refuge in the same tree; one of them eats the sweet fig, the other abstaining from food, merely looks on''.
The One which looks on is the observer. It is spaceless and timeless.
He already ate. lol
2:15:19 The truth...
What Donald says here is from the point of view of our Creatress, the ONE. This is true. However, it is not quite the optimal way to perceive in order to have a more wonderful experience in this existence. It is more wonderful to see from the point of view that we all come from the pure beauty of our Creatress and therefore we are beautiful also. We can celebrate each other and our Creatress/the ONE for sharing our beautiful gifts with each other for making life more wonderful. We are infinite beings. Not souls, not humans, not aliens. We ARE Humane infinite being, free to experience with the truth of the Golden Rule in mind.
Much love to you all.
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True Detective figured it out, linear time on a time loop, literally hell for eternity. see you guys next time around
I'm 35, what Math i need to learn to jump in in to topic. I have, economics,corporate, it experience. And this stuff sounds exciting.
The single conscious agent experiencing itself through avatars must have some way to remember the individual avatar experiences, compare the experiences and acquire knowledge of itself in 'processing' the experiences.
In this book: Thiaoouba Prophecy by Michel Desmarquet (1993), different headset experience? Thank you for the incredible interview!
Thank you!🙏🏽
Is an observer a being that can see light particles?
I Love this wonderful human Donald Hofmann, my big question is: isn't the amplituhedron also something that, the scientists project while they are looking for something out there, just like the quantum physicist project the quantum particles while they are looking for them.
When we are looking for something, we are creating it...
A shout to the mentally unwell that did the journey from the stars to earth whilst still in a living body on earth experiencing these theories,of the mind the mathematical equation is so complex no words could ever explain it ,it would be a binary code of infinite ones and zeros ,a true google.
Kind of remind me what Bill Hicks said about LSD experience : 'Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.
But don't get me wrong, i prefer the scientifc theory. Had to really force myself to try to understand. I get the headset image and avatar experiences.
In ancient civilizations, they considered the mentally ill mystics. A good metaphorical visual is Abraxas.
Material view of consciousness doesn’t work with quantum field theory, therefore consciousness has to be fundamental
Donald is a real scientist. We need more like him.
Enjoyed this Thoroughly.
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1:00:00practical Avatar experiment- Make a circle between your thumb and index finger. Then say or think “Open”!? Your finger and thumb remain closed, meaning the word ‘Open’ is just a word..... Not Intelligence....and too Open your fingers requires another command Not related to your word Storage facility’s in the Brain!? You can open your fingers but not just by applying the “Open” word.... There is a Subconsciousness next Response required, over which ‘you’ appear to have zero memory of!?
In the evolutionary simulation games you assume a "win" to be surviving long enough to reproduce. And in order to satisfy that goal you have shown it is not necessary to perceive the truth. But, what if the goal in the game is not too reproduce, but to be immortal? Maybe then, perceiving the truth would be necessary to win the game?
you can tell Donald is reducing the complexity while not losing fidelity. It is hard to do. I dont think he's flung big words around, actually quite the opposite.
Why are physics constants not properties of spacetime?
Consciousness Itself... next video!!!
Yes plz, and specifically what's is consciousness made of?
The Universal mind is all
Consciousness is outside of us..we are able to tune into it..however our programing interferes with the experience..
Thank god the interviewer mentioned the word salad the people in the field use!!!!!!
Personally, i think they are threatened not to reveal clear, precise info on all this.... this information is extremely powerful and also highly ethical..... if i was a super evil villian running the show, i wouldnt want anyone knowing! I would at least threaten everyone's lives til the scientists got the science down pack before i let them talk freely about it, so i would be ahead of the competition before everyone found out... i would put safe guards up for even the scientists, themselves, to not really understand what they're researching. Forbid science articles from publishing findings in a direct, clear matter... It has to be word saladed til the message gets lost in the sauce 😂 i would intentionally misinform the public to keep an advantage.
So just at rhe start of the video, he's saying that the act of observation will always influence in some way the outcome of the measurement taken. I hope he explains, or even knows, in what way we influence it, of course it would likely be different for the different types of measurements and the different types of observers. I don't think there's any way to disporve what he's saying though. I mean you xan never know the value of the unobserved since in order to know what value it has you must observe it in some way. That makes me a bit uncomfortable because if it's impossible to disprove something it's also impossible to prove it as well.
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One falsely identifies oneself to be a particular wave in the ocean, but oneself truly is the water that spans the entire ocean.
One must mentally transcend the illusion of ephemeral appearance without to spiritually enjoy the bliss of true eternal existence within.
Swami SriDattaDev SatChitAnanda
I know that guy he's from dahood.
Fascinating conversation 🙏
Did you know that a pointer in Ancient Greek is a Gnomon.
Gnosis, cognoscere, knowledge…
Followers are looking at the pointers not what it indicates….
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I started low carb keto diet 3 months ago with intermittent fasting. I have dropped 42lbs / 3 Stone / 21Kg in 3 months it is crazy. This is definitely the way to go if you have any health problems or need to lose weight.
This is exactly like Atman in vedanta & purusha in Yoga philosophy
You have to make a Interview with grand master wolf.
What a sincere humane this man
As well as not being able to explain any specific qualia materialist theories cannot explain the most important thing. Why do I seem to be a specific, individualized consciousness associated with a specific body while you seem to be a different specific, individualized consciousness associated with another body? Why am I, I and you, you? There were billions of bodies around before this one showed up so what changed that I should find myself to be looking out of the eyeballs of this particular body and no other? When it comes to understanding consciousness this is the most important question that must be asked and answered but it is rarely even acknowledged. When the ontologies purporting to explain consciousness are examined critically it becomes obvious that all materialist/reductionist strategies fail completely in attempting to address this question.
What is the principled explanation for why:
A brain over here would generate my specific consciousness and a brain over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Integrated information over here would generate my specific consciousness and integrated information over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Global workspace over here would generate my specific consciousness and global workspace there would generate your specific consciousness?
Orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over here would generate my specific consciousness and orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over there would generate your specific consciousness?
A clump of conscious atoms over here (panpsychicism) would generate my specific consciousness and a clump of conscious over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Materialism already fails since it cannot find a transfer function between microvolt level sparks in the brain and any experience or qualia. In addition it’s not possible for materialistic ontologies to address this question of individuality since no measurement can be made that could verify my consciousness vs your consciousness and therefore no materialist ontology could even make any coherent statements about the subject.
you need to interview people like William Bengtson phd
Noted.📝
@@drtevinnaidu also people like Bruce Lipton phd, Gregg Braden ,Doug matzke quantum physicist PhD,
Donald...some of us are another type of human being. Say you are a plant human, someone else is a meat human, another is an ether human, and some humans don't have a mother vocabulary...etc. I still dislike your head set idea. 49:28 no you shouldn't have to believe it (as you) even with two feet in. That's the avoidance trick you must apply to prevent falling into the temporal delusion or infinite recursion. That can cause catalytic situations for the subject. The requirement is to NOT claim it as you. Unless you are born or trained for the role in the right timeline and right planetary conditions. That's probably a few advanced decades or centuries of difference.
I think he is saying that you see what you believe...Your beliefs shape what you see.
I tin that this I really important but it’s so difficult to understand
What is beyond space/time? The Transcendental Absolute, but one must typically have methods of tapping into IT; many of which have been developed in Buddhist and Hindu Traditions. There is no "structure of the One", where "The One" philosophy goes back to Plotinus. Any structure that follows is an "emanation" of the One (something inseparable from The One) but also identifiable as "something" For example, the various Forms mentioned by Plato: Universal Law, Beauty, Truth, etc. Everythjing is "The One" but there's a hierarchy of apparent emanations. (an infinite number).
We are Matrix, Gaia Matrix is. A Toroid, she makes Toroids, toroids that dream, all toroids are her creation, she uses Wuji to weaver her Matrix, using geometry, chemistry and biology.
Cultivating your temporary Toroid, into being a sovereign Toroid, and while at the Bardo of death, slow the tunnel of Gaia Matrix central channel, and while taking the backward step into the Cultivated Toroid, uncoil all layers of the Avatar, and return to Gaia Matrix, with complete gratefulness and a heart central channel lighter than the feather of truth Ma'at, I have had this vision over and over in my internal construct for the last 47 years, and have lucid dreamed all around this entanglement. If you are out of matrixes, you are out of oscillating, all samsara oscillates, , but if you want to fly from the nest of Gaia Matrix, , you need the Cultivated toroid self.. Gaias Avatars can only be manifested in her resonance, , if you want to surf in the filaments of probably, , you need a direction Avatar. Know nature to know the avatar, but to know your toroid, know the frequency of wiji. ❤❤❤
What is the frequency?😊
A person who has mastered and memorized fancy language and impressive formulas makes him a genius in memorizing the formulas and the fancy language. That’s all. consciousness and all that is being pointed to, I can assure you, isn’t complicated.
That was a stunner... thanks
Hello Donald Hoffman. “What is an observer” An observer is the awareness. Awareness is aware of itself before anything else.