cheryl is my shero! she stood her ground and held her head high when the prosecutor once again tried to take her power and dignity. women of afrika roarrrrrrr!!!!!!
@tabitha mabasa He has a choice of declining to defend Omotoso but I guess money talks because at the end of the day the man needs to pay bills so if Omotoso has a good price he might as well just defend him
Exactly. The guy is just seated there and leaving his witness at the mercy of the lawyer. What a useless prosecutor. Seems intimidated by a white man. He is putting the judge in a difficult position.
Thus why mna i took my case into my own hands, I grew up watching my rapist suffer in a wheelchair in silence, instead of going through this garbage of law.
@@mandyonsaber9238 just like in nigeria they will kill him and report to police after as suicide.... This man studied SA law system and knew with money he will succeed to enter as many virgins as he can. And SA citizens need to wake up how much cultic is this issue.
me to dear....south Africa if mothoso win this case.just know we lost trust in you..just imagine someone just come in our country do what's so ever that pleases him and get away with it..zondi won't be able to have kids of her own..and she's also h.i.v positive just because that monster .....south Africa please please just give her justice
@@jerobeamdimondakolo7868 Indeed those girls you claim are being abused by South African men should come out and say so, we will not condone the abuse of women, no matter who is perpetrator.
@@pellomtirara8178 you know the way nigerians are always posting rubbish about how SA people are infected with Hiv I thought they are immune to the disease so how did "man of God from Nigeria get it" as they are perfect beings
True. It seems his congregation are under the illusion that they need to go via Omotoso to get to God. Our churches need to be educated in so many things 🤔
She was a child at the time when she was first abused. Of course she trusted him. Kids trust adults who are in a position of care to them. The problem is the adults, the parents who trust the "man of God" as God himself. The kids just follow whatever their parents believe and teach them to do.
Buhle Ntombela, Cheryl was a child at the time so omotso groomed her. That’s what paedophiles do so that they will have control over the victim over a long period of time
Hallo Vuyo. What is inches? He did not say "inches". This is Mzansi, he said "centimeters". You are asking questions based on American type law that you watch on TV.
He must also be human and sensitive. We shouldn't have allowed it with Oscar Pistorius. Gerry Nel was also at some point insensitive to Oscar. We didn't see it because Oscar was guilty in our eyes.
this is an unrepresentable case Douberman has got some guts, how can he ask such a question, just a pat on a woman's buttocks without her consent is an offence
I watched that trial and wanted to vomit as this layer asked undignified questions to the victim. Was he trying to gratify himself or is this how questions are ask to the victim of sexual abuse in the presence of the nation and of the perpetrator? She was an underage when this happened how may centimetres into her V??? Shame!
i understand what the defense lawyer might have been trying to do with that question. if cheryl had answered with an estimation of the number of centimetres she had been penetratrated, the lawyer would turn around and call her a liar for that...how do you know it was 5 centimetres?..and therefore discredit her as a witness....there was a situation in zimbabwe recently, where soldiers shot down 7 protesters.....at the commision of inquiry a witness was asked a stupid question like "did you see any bullets come out of the guns?!" ...so that if he answers yes he is discredited as a witness...
Nothing wrong done by the advocate and this girl is very very lucky to be cross examined by Advocate Daubermann. We witness much much worse compared to what happened to usisi. Emotions are not important in court but facts are important during cross examination.
You, just like that disgusting lawyer, are disgusting and lousy excuse for a human. How is a rape victim, who's being humiliated in court by an insensitive lawyer, Lucky?
She is lucky because the defence lawyer did not drill her at all. I wish you can go to court and listen to different cases when they are on trial. I bet you will change your position about this one!!!!! Mind you, I did not speak about my position around this case. I am only discussing the level of questions and how relevant are they in reference to the case at hand. Another interesting point which every-1 forget - Not even a single question was deemed out of order...Feelings and emotions leave them out when you talk about the LAW!!!!
I don't bring measuring tape in my bedroom with my husband what more if it is rape....., I have never put a ruler in my vj to check the depth of penetration like really
Racists have come out of their closers because this time the victim is black. If she had been white, we would be reminded about how dangerous this country is. Sickening.
I salute Peter because he doesn't take chances cherry zondi she must be liyng on this, it's a defamation of one's character, because the pastor is from nigiria?
The prosecutor is not doing his job they need to remove him and replace him with a white one since a white lawyer is doing his job defending that rapist. I believe he did it, she wants to bring it to the worlds attention and the government of South Africa needs to do something about it. The prosecutor needs to dig into his background back in Nigeria to see what he was doing over there because I’m sure the reason why he left his country of birth is because he was about to get caught there. He was trying to run away and they caught him at the airport, that’s a guilty man and he got someone to falsify documents so he can leave what does that say his guilty and he tried to run. These people need to open up their eyes his guilty
How can a lawyer cross the line...all these rubbish coz the man Is a Nigerian...Evil is evil. ..Rubbish like this fuel more hatred than unified.... why even televised it? Deal with the pastor and hand him his punishment...
more and more victims needs to see this. it might help a few people. and some the lawyers questions were not necessary and they did not help the case at all, its not his place to judge period
People of SA like mirecles too much and I know our churches in SA they don't have pastor's who perform rituals only these churches from E, W, and North Africa
We need the truth it doesnt matter what/how question u ask to reveal it.. man are suffering in jail for the crime they didn't commit// and after reasonable doubt found guilt he must rot in jail for his crime.
cheryl is my shero! she stood her ground and held her head high when the prosecutor once again tried to take her power and dignity. women of afrika roarrrrrrr!!!!!!
yaaaaaas
subeiga prosecutor ddn't try 2 take Cheryl's power,it was a defence lawyer
I think it was the defense lawyer. Scumbags they are
we must get rid pf all these pastors destroying our beautiful nation
Tumelo Abel starting with Bushiri
Get rid of Christianity period !!!!!!!!!
Matsoso Setho tell me something I don’t know
Red Carded even better 😃
I fully agree with that, they come here with their evils deeds sies
I am so afraid that some lawyers will never see heaven, I am so disappointed that any human being can be so insensitive
I wonder if he has kids his evil
But that is the nature of Law it’s not personal this man is doing his job
Then it's a wicked job ever...
@tabitha mabasa He has a choice of declining to defend Omotoso but I guess money talks because at the end of the day the man needs to pay bills so if Omotoso has a good price he might as well just defend him
l agree with red carded
The prosecutor also needs to be slapped. How come he is not standing up for his client?
He doesn't know his JOB..
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You are absolutely right
Exactly. The guy is just seated there and leaving his witness at the mercy of the lawyer. What a useless prosecutor. Seems intimidated by a white man. He is putting the judge in a difficult position.
The prosecution needs to raise objections rather than acting like spectators.
He crossed the line, even the judge had to step in and not allow some of his questions
Thus why mna i took my case into my own hands, I grew up watching my rapist suffer in a wheelchair in silence, instead of going through this garbage of law.
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i feel, and I think my opinion is reasonable, that the defence lawyer made her repeat uncomfortable information.
THE LAWYER WAS CRUDE NOT ONLY THAT BUT HIS VOICE WOULD SHOW FRUSTRATION TWIST THE LADIES WORDS
Why he don't do the measurements to Omotoso'spenis so that he can know exactly how long end see those Centimeters , stupid Questions
@Nkululeko Mabaso no end even him he knows but it's just that he want to protect his client end let Cherly be the Victim end Suff😭😭
@eNCA, why the hell are you guys not in HD yet???
Womandla...💪...power to her...
I will permanently lose hope in the South African justice system if this bully wins this case
Ill be so let down too
@@mandyonsaber9238 just like in nigeria they will kill him and report to police after as suicide.... This man studied SA law system and knew with money he will succeed to enter as many virgins as he can. And SA citizens need to wake up how much cultic is this issue.
me to dear....south Africa if mothoso win this case.just know we lost trust in you..just imagine someone just come in our country do what's so ever that pleases him and get away with it..zondi won't be able to have kids of her own..and she's also h.i.v positive just because that monster .....south Africa please please just give her justice
@@jerobeamdimondakolo7868 Indeed those girls you claim are being abused by South African men should come out and say so, we will not condone the abuse of women, no matter who is perpetrator.
@@pellomtirara8178 you know the way nigerians are always posting rubbish about how SA people are infected with Hiv I thought they are immune to the disease so how did "man of God from Nigeria get it" as they are perfect beings
Where is the Closing arguments,, did she win ? That's all I wanted to know
The problem started when they trust a man of God than God himself Cheryl???
True. It seems his congregation are under the illusion that they need to go via Omotoso to get to God. Our churches need to be educated in so many things 🤔
They do because Pentecoastal church is a Satanic version of true belief...
She was a child at the time when she was first abused. Of course she trusted him. Kids trust adults who are in a position of care to them. The problem is the adults, the parents who trust the "man of God" as God himself. The kids just follow whatever their parents believe and teach them to do.
Buhle Ntombela, Cheryl was a child at the time so omotso groomed her. That’s what paedophiles do so that they will have control over the victim over a long period of time
@eNCA, would be nice to see the names of your speakers in the info box there... #justsayin
May God give her strength.
Hallo Vuyo. What is inches? He did not say "inches". This is Mzansi, he said "centimeters". You are asking questions based on American type law that you watch on TV.
Lol... Tell him plz, he watches too much tv
The metric system is unknown to us.
Tikvah Olam the reporter brought up inches. @11:56
A lawyer is nt there to have motions n be sensetive,bt is there 2 b objective...big up to the lawyer
thank you!
A lawyer is not in court to defend you. He or she is there to do his job and get paid.
He must also be human and sensitive. We shouldn't have allowed it with Oscar Pistorius. Gerry Nel was also at some point insensitive to Oscar. We didn't see it because Oscar was guilty in our eyes.
Other victims should please come forward. This type of behaviour should not be happening to our children, our girls, women regardless of nationality.
most south African girls are poor and they used to make sex for money, the pastor was not having a 20000 rand she asked him to pay.
There's no if and butts of whether or not he crossed the line he did and the only reason was to humiliate her and that is wrong on every level..
Why are you asking these white folks?
Maybe thy are more educated on law than black folks
+Mpho Monyamane I doubt
What's wrong with asking people who happen to be white?
l think Lisa is more practical & acceptable whilst on the other hand Vanessa should b stoned 4 condoning her colleague's behaviour
but she was only 14
Maybe he is asking based on the recent sexual assault which was when she was 19
That is needed to be asked
He said cm, but that's not the case.
this is an unrepresentable case Douberman has got some guts, how can he ask such a question, just a pat on a woman's buttocks without her consent is an offence
The prosecutor needs to stepped down
The lady with black hair is so insensitive.
I watched that trial and wanted to vomit as this layer asked undignified questions to the victim. Was he trying to gratify himself or is this how questions are ask to the victim of sexual abuse in the presence of the nation and of the perpetrator? She was an underage when this happened how may centimetres into her V??? Shame!
Whoever’s cooking his food is not doing a good job
Rachel C what do you mean?
It means what you are thinking right now
yooh wenna
i understand what the defense lawyer might have been trying to do with that question. if cheryl had answered with an estimation of the number of centimetres she had been penetratrated, the lawyer would turn around and call her a liar for that...how do you know it was 5 centimetres?..and therefore discredit her as a witness....there was a situation in zimbabwe recently, where soldiers shot down 7 protesters.....at the commision of inquiry a witness was asked a stupid question like "did you see any bullets come out of the guns?!" ...so that if he answers yes he is discredited as a witness...
Please your journalist must get her facts correct.Dobberman is an attorney not an advocate.
Sheeee I wonder ubunyanzelwa yinton🙄💁
@@keepingitreal5674 not him is childern and i hope they also get cross examined
He must do his job as a Lawyer
Nothing wrong done by the advocate and this girl is very very lucky to be cross examined by Advocate Daubermann. We witness much much worse compared to what happened to usisi. Emotions are not important in court but facts are important during cross examination.
Aijaman Pirlo but how is the question of centimeters relevant for the defence?
Those type of question are relevant when you try to discover if there was any forceful sex and how was the penetration done.
You, just like that disgusting lawyer, are disgusting and lousy excuse for a human. How is a rape victim, who's being humiliated in court by an insensitive lawyer, Lucky?
She is lucky because the defence lawyer did not drill her at all. I wish you can go to court and listen to different cases when they are on trial.
I bet you will change your position about this one!!!!!
Mind you, I did not speak about my position around this case. I am only discussing the level of questions and how relevant are they in reference to the case at hand.
Another interesting point which every-1 forget - Not even a single question was deemed out of order...Feelings and emotions leave them out when you talk about the LAW!!!!
now i can see foreign white&black RSA think black South African are their toys .
Where is oprah sad she has forgotten her family .and Ier sisters
Of course not. He's doing an excellent job to cross examine this witness
I don't bring measuring tape in my bedroom with my husband what more if it is rape....., I have never put a ruler in my vj to check the depth of penetration like really
I’m sure you’re white
I think this is sarcasm guys😖....dont be offensive
He's doing his job and unfortunately it's an ugly one...
Racists have come out of their closers because this time the victim is black. If she had been white, we would be reminded about how dangerous this country is. Sickening.
I salute Peter because he doesn't take chances cherry zondi she must be liyng on this, it's a defamation of one's character, because the pastor is from nigiria?
The prosecutor is not doing his job they need to remove him and replace him with a white one since a white lawyer is doing his job defending that rapist. I believe he did it, she wants to bring it to the worlds attention and the government of South Africa needs to do something about it. The prosecutor needs to dig into his background back in Nigeria to see what he was doing over there because I’m sure the reason why he left his country of birth is because he was about to get caught there. He was trying to run away and they caught him at the airport, that’s a guilty man and he got someone to falsify documents so he can leave what does that say his guilty and he tried to run. These people need to open up their eyes his guilty
Yes
Stupid question
Omotoso must go to prison
He must defend his client
Nope he was practising within his scope of practice
How can a lawyer cross the line...all these rubbish coz the man Is a Nigerian...Evil is evil. ..Rubbish like this fuel more hatred than unified.... why even televised it? Deal with the pastor and hand him his punishment...
more and more victims needs to see this. it might help a few people. and some the lawyers questions were not necessary and they did not help the case at all, its not his place to judge period
AMEN
He's a fooling without a heart but his a father
Zondi is in trouble.she is lying
what kind of a Pa store he is imbungulu....shem
People of SA like mirecles too much and I know our churches in SA they don't have pastor's who perform rituals only these churches from E, W, and North Africa
We need the truth it doesnt matter what/how question u ask to reveal it.. man are suffering in jail for the crime they didn't commit// and after reasonable doubt found guilt he must rot in jail for his crime.
I agreed
Not all witnesses lies
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This days if u have money you must avoid women
john Joseph's u disgusting like the pastors wife
So when you ask sum1 to give you sum in the name of god and they agree, is dat rape?
a 14 yr old?
IF THEY ARE 14 YES!!
Yes. It is rape.... absolutely
It’s rape! Finish and klaar
You can not ask an evil thing from some 1 in the name of God never...
Worse sex from your child..?
Yes