Do I Love the 2020 YZ250FX in 1st Gear?
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2020
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The answer to the question about whether or not I love the 2020 YZ250FX when I’m in first gear is no. I don’t love the bike when the going is slow. It’s a 4 stroke and will stall very easily unless the RPMs are kept high. It’s not unique to this bike, it’s a property of all the modern 4 strokes like this. The bike is an absolute blast to ride in the wide open terrain you see in this video. When the going is slow, that narrative changes. Since I ride a wide variety of terrain and love the do some nasty, slow type riding as well, this can’t be my primary bike. It’s just not good enough in the gnarly stuff for that purpose.
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I still want to see this beast doing hard enduro.
Very Kool Video kyle always like, love watching your videos always love the narration as well I've learned a lot from you ty doug from gunnison CO
Thanks for the awesome vid Kyle.👍🏻
awesome video and review Kyle must visit southern Utah looks amazing 👍
I love everything about my Yz250fx
Jeez that area looks amazing. I'm gonna have to make a trip one day. Also for you to give it a good review on suspension says something. 3 yrs now and I've seen ya pick apart alot of bikes.
Oh this was talking about the 2020 yz250fx?! I thought It was all about headset communication systems......
I added a gytr flywheel weight to my 17 yz250f and its made a world of a difference. Its able to crawl at low rpm up hills and through technical stuff so much better.
These souther Utah trails seem to be awesome. Would love to see more of them. Greetings from Portugal!
Agreed Marcelo. That to me is the best riding on the planet and I don't even live in the States. They are super lucky to have places like that to ride. Greetings from Namibia.
totally agree with you opinion on the 4 strokes, super fun in more open trails, but for slower more technical riding i never really enjoyed my 4 stroke it was alot of work just to keep it running especially my 450
So true about the 1st gear. I have a 2019 WR450, AND IT HATES GOING SLOW. Now i can idle around in 1st but is murder on the clutch. Hell 2nd gear is about the same. Honestly, now i wish i would have got the 250. Great video. I’ll go ahead and hit the Sub button👍👍.
I have a 22 yz250fx. I added a gtyr flywheel, hymec clutch and had the suspension rebuilt Plush. It's transformed my fx into a Rocky Mountain single track machine now, goes forever on a tank of fuel, no arm pump at all. Tractors up anything at idle.
That was a really good trail 😃. Utah has very interesting scenery luv it 😀🏍️💜 north of England Uk
LOVE love that trail.... Huge pay off at the end ❤️ 🤘🤘🤘
I try to do the falls every year because its an awesome ride!
I had a 18 version. I got tired of stalling it in 1st gear in the knarly stuff so on went a Rekluse. First time I ever used one and this bike begs for it! It made the bike my favorite for tight and technical. Try it! you will be amazed.
That is what I want to do....
What setup did you use for the rekluse?
Bought mine 2 weeks ago and have had no issues with stalling in the technical stuff. Chadwick MO trails for me. I love the bike. Switched from a yz250x.
Got to love Chadwick!! I ride the technical there no problem on my KTM 350 XCFW without stalling no matter how technical it gets. My buddy has 2015 yz250fx and has no problem with stalling either. Learn how to use that clutch!!
@@christobey4198 my point exactly. I'm lucky enough to live 20 miles away from such an awesome place.
@@christobey4198 same here.on my 350 excf also no problems.clutch control is key.especially when riding 2.strokes alot then switching to 4 strokes
Hey Kyle I would love to see what you think about the difference in frames between aluminum vs poly steel. maybe a video ? I have noticed I like each one for different tasks
Please do a video of the slow technical stuff that you talk about. I would really like to see how this bike is having a hard time. It would be an interesting comparison.
I’m curious because my 2017 FX doesn’t seem to stall on slow technical trails.
Have you tried a proper map for the slow stuff yet?
Cheers
Yeah I would like to see how bad it is. I have a KX250 and it works good I just have to use a lot of clutch in the tight stuff.
My 19 yz250f is pretty hard to stall in trails
All it needs is a light flywheel weight. Only difference you'll notice is that it won't stall
i have a 2020 250fx, of course it is more stall prone than a 2 stroke but you just have to adapt to a slightly different ride style. i found that its easier to leave it in 2nd gear and slip the clutch a bit in tight stuff. being fuel injected, i found 1st gear almost impossible because its so jerky with even a tiny bit of throttle. and maps deff make a difference.
my brother got a 2020 250fx also, he came off a 300xc-w. he ended up putting a rekluse clutch in it.
vaughnage92 hey so I’m looking into getting one of these but probably an older one like 2015 cause I don’t have the money to buy a new one but I was wondering. Do the older models have the electronic mapping? Or just the new ones?
Thanks for the video on the yz250 FX it seem to be a awesome bike and sound great 👍
Awsome brothers
That looks like some sweet country to ride in! Not sure how a shoulder would go in a crash though🤕
Let's see. Josep Garcia won the ISDE on a 250f before, Kailub Russell won the National Enduro Championship on a 250F, and Graham Jarvis's first Red Bull Romaniacs win was on a Sherco 250F. Yeah, they are pretty capable.
So strange...my 2019 yz250f was used in technical/gnarly enduros and NEVER stalled (seniorA level)... matter of fact it required minimal clutch use as well...AND never overheated.
@@Just1nch naw...I ran keefer map all the time
if your doing slow shitty stuff you have to abuse the clutch races are usualy faster and not quite as technical thats probably why you racebike didnt bother you
Put a $70 GYTR fan on the bike, and a Recluse Radius CX clutch on it....and WALAH! Problems solved...
the problem is the reklues takes some of your clutch control away
@@Just1nch i bought my bike with one already on it after 2 rides i took it out and sold it works how its supposed to but its not for me
I can't wait to get back into off road motorcycles! I'm saving money & looking at bikes everyday! No more bitchy wife so now I have a life! I've got access to a TON of great land to ride on (7K acres) but not a single dirt bike! Its depressing but the day I get a bike it will all be good! I'm semi-retired & I'm devoting the next part of my life to DIRT & MOTORCYCLES! I may buy something from you so I can have a one in a million chance at that beautiful bike! If you get an order from Comfort TX it's just me!
My 2015 YZ250F is super good on the tech, and im a 15 year old newbie.
The plastic right angle injector top is the problem and the reason they stall at lower revs, I have a 16 450fx and fixed the injector top and fuel rail and it never stalls now.
So, to comment on Kyles observations and expand upon it. I own a 2019 YZ250F (basically the same bike) that I do a lot of single track riding on, lots of log hits, etc. but nothing like the crazy rock terrain Kyle does. I think that's what he's saying it struggles with, and I can see where and why. I've experience flame outs when riding some bigger log hits when riding at a crawl, and unless the bike's momentum and rev's are not close to idle, it does have a tendency to flame out. However, if you can keep the bikes momentum up usually it will do just fine.
How about a side by side comparison to the Sherco 300 SE-F
Kyle - do you think the stalling issues could be at least improved (of course not eliminated) by a combination of flywheel weight, gearing, and tuning? I'm not a big fan of Rekluse clutches as a lot of comments are suggesting, just want your educated guess. Thank you.
Headsets work great when ur coaching someone!
Have you looked into rugged radio for communication with your buddies? I think they have a lot farther range compared to the Bluetooth connection style communication systems. I know they are push to talk so you have to have another button on the bar and I didn’t like that idea when my dad and I got some radios a few years ago. We went with the sena 20s and now regret it wishing we had some style of push to talk so you could mute yourself really easily when you need to cough or sneeze or in your case talk to the camera.
I’d just love to know the exact trail you were on? Warner is in my backyard basically and I’d love to do the rest of where you were.
Kyle, have you thought about putting a rekluse clutch in the Yamaha? It might help with the low speed.
Change the mapping, 15’ and 19’ are amazing and never stall or overheat
What trails in Utah are you riding on? Just SUPERB SUPERB SUPERB!!!!
I finally rode my 2020 YZ250FX in some technical terrain and I had the same issues, stalls too easy. I've only ridden 4 strokes for comparison.
Have you had any luck with making any changes? My first thing will be to check the idle speed, then probably drop a tooth on the front. How has the aftermarket battery improved starting?
Is a crf250f the best for technical trails? It's the air cooled trail bike. I'm guessing it has a slow first gear which is great for technical right?
What's the best bike for technical trails and can also be use to jump on the track, any advice? Thanks in advance
Get the Rekluse clutch and then try the tight gnarly stuff.
For any of the cross country type bikes you'd need to do some gearing changes to make it capable of enduro/single track. Not a fan of the rekluse clutch since you lose the ability to clear obstacles with precise clutch control. Would be curious to see it go down one tooth in front and maybe up two in the back.
With the newer Rekluse clutch offerings, you can still use your clutch for precise control. It just keeps the bike from stalling.
Try a G2 throttle tamer, it makes a huge difference on how the bike handles in first gear, night and day different.
I'm buying one Paddy,(sold the 250x), they have a GYTR 58% heavier fly wheel that will cure that, we'll will put her to the PNW/Canada Tech Gnar brah!!!!!
Its looks beautiful riding out there..... but one wrong move (front tire washout) and you fall to your death??
I could not agree less! My YZ 250 FX is great for technical stuff. I have a 250 2 stroke and I love it but the Yamaha has way more torque and makes the slow/technical rides a lot easier.
Is a crf250f the best in technical stuff?
@@xenomorph7299 I've never riden a crf250f, but I did start in enduro in a crf230f, the precursor of the crf250f. I rode it for more than two years and I found it excellent as as begginer bike. The lack of power and suspension are noticeable for more advance riders, but for a beginner rider, I believe it is a great bike in many ways: almost completely indestructible (no readiators, no complicated electronics, etc.), almost impossible to stall, enough torque to get anywhere, low height, cheap to fix, etc. The only problem is that when you start gaining confidence and ride faster, steeper, looser trails, the lack of power and suspension are a big handicap.
@@cokecruzb You know what I'm more interested in now is the KLX300R. Much more power and better suspension for just a little more money.
@@xenomorph7299 I have only seen one of those bikes in my enduro years... but it is probably because here in my country (Chile) Kawasaki is way more popular in motocross than enduro...Compared to the CRF250F I think it probably is a better bike in a lot of ways. But I would look closely at the weight and hight; and also at the availability of replacement parts, service, etc. Since I've found out that Honda is so popular everywhere and you can find countless mechanics and online suppliers for parts... and that is a big benefit over Kawasaki I believe.
I added a Rekluse and it solved the 1st gear issue.
U got to try the 2020 yz250x 2 stroke and 2020 yz125x
Wish I could be apart of that that riding team
After researching for a new bike it seems like the yz250fx is the best 250f offroad bike there is but... after delving deeper the 2020 sherco 300sef factory does everything the yami does but better. Snappy motor that also loves to rev with extra torque from 300cc, KYB suspension, brembo brakes + hydraulic clutch and is also lighter with good ergonomics and loves to corner whilst still being quite stable. Am i missing something or is the sherco badly overlooked??? What should I buy???
Thorn Carnegie Those sherco your taking about are awesome, won’t go wrong with either. Personally the sherco
What’s the weight difference? Those are my two bikes I’m debating
Sherco is a hell of a bike.. But consider this as a negative. Dealer support and parts availability. At this point, that's something to consider as they're pretty fresh to the consumer. Look into a 300 Redmoto kit for the Honda 250rx as an option. FYI
@@JasonNaughton should've said I'm in Australia haha. We don't get the 250rx here and sherco is actually quite well represented here they actually released the 500 a year before anywhere else. The only dealer I have in town is kawasaki with the next nearest town being 600kms (370miles for you yanks) away so parts and servicing is a problem for any brand haha
@@Pint76 3kg or 6.5 pounds. Not heaps but when you consider the yz is based of a mx bike and the sef is purely enduro (has to be full onroad compliant) you'd think the yz would be lighter
Maybe try a flywheel weight for the slow stuff
I’d love to see a review that compares the yz250fx to the yz250f. I think you might like the f model better for the terrain you are riding.
The X models are specifically designed for this type of terrain. 18 inch rear, softer suspension, wide ratio high gears for wide open terrain
Hey Kyle at the moment I’m in the market for a new bike and am wanting a 2 - stroke preferably with e star and kick start I’m wondering if you have any suggestions my budget is around 6 - 7 thousand dollars Australian any help would be appreciated 🤙🏼
Wish I was out there riding now. Stuck in this shit hole Illinois. Tired of the corona panic bs.
Was he in 1st gear the whole time cause that seems quite fast for first gear I’m only used to a 125
Great video Kyle! I ride with Cardos with my teenage boys. Great investment. I can give them coaching as we ride. They love the music aspect. :)
What communication system do you use
What intercom do you guys use
Yz250x or the yz250fx what you choking and y
had this bike and let me tell you a rekluse will transform it into the best technical bike you ever had. Stop your " I should have enough skill, I don't need a rekluse" The bike needs it and totally redeems its self!
Does it have a wide ratio trains
Please test the KTM Freeride next.
What trail is this?
My 2018 or 19 I forgot rmz2504stroke is insanely quick ppl are surprised how it rides only bad part of your going slow around a turn damn thing try’s to die
Can 2020 wr250f become a yz250fx?
Well i went to the dunes with my 250 there’s no problem it’s fasts at the dunes with paddle tires
Jan-Erik Hough I once rode a 125 with no paddle tire, loved it, year later, rode my 250 two stroke with sand paddle this time, tbh it didn’t feel much faster....😂😂 what I’m saying is, most dirtbikes work for anything
I thought this was a 4 speed wide ratio box?
Top and bottom being crawl and cruise.
6 speed wide ratio
Just put 3 teath more in the back.
and tadaaaaaaaa prfect bike
Rahmet 96 it’s still easy to stall compared to two stroke
@@marcusbevz6500 heavy flywheel - tadaaa))
3 more teeth is a huge change and it messes with all the ratios including lowering the top speed, all of which can be terribly annoying. I disliked going up even 1 tooth on my 300. Flywheel weights can help stalling but don't eliminate it and makes them rev slower and when it's already on a "slow" 250F that's not an ideal scenario. Why settle when you could just buy a 2 stroke and have the power, the stall resistance and fast revving.
1 tooth on the back is plenty to make a difference, let's you get into second gear early smoothing out throttle response and you still have to have big balls to hold it open in top gear. Suits my local riding any way. Add far as maps, Take it to a dyno! Get it tuned properly Max horse power that comes on very linear, then you learn how to ride with throttle and clutch control.
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Hey, could u do a review on the new 2020 150xcw
I don't which is better the 150i or 150xcw
I have the 2020 150i and LOVE it! SOOOOOO fun! You can't go wrong with either - I like having linkage a little more so 150i it was...for me and my wife (technically hers, but I ride it just as much). She gets on the 300 sometimes as well...
Kyle if you get the chance you should try the 2020 KTM 350 exc-f. The bike won’t stall in first gear at all. I just purchase one two weeks ago and it is an all around Great machine. It feels like a mountain bike with a motor that is so smooth and handles amazingly well.
Did you start on a 2 stroke or 4 stroke?
Pretty sure his first dirtbike was a Yamaha 450f then he decided it was terrible for trail riding and got a KTM 300xcw
Anyone recommend this bike to a beginner rider?
I would love to see a video about the different types of terrain and riding. What’s the difference between single track/fast flowing and slow technical? Could you do a comparison of one of the 2t’s and the FX through the slow technical trails? I’m sure that I’m not the only one that wants to see how the 4t struggles in the slow stuff. Thanks Kyle.
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I don’t understand why people don’t think a 250 is sufficient. Smh
Top speed
James Haskins faster than Ull ever go
Nice
Sounds like you need a rekluse auto clutch to fix your stalling in first , and you would have bike to make you happy
Well hell I made a comment then read other comments and some one said what I said so dunce hat intalled here
I don't no why they keep doing reviews on these bikes there the same bike year after year my 2018 is the same as the last 4years
Couldn't stand having a hot mic the whole time.
do I smell orange koolaid??
It is a motocross bike, what did you expected?? 😂😂
The 250FX is technically yamaha's offroad race (GNCC style) bike. Not a motocross bike.
David Smutz I am from Germany. So I have no idea what GNCC means... 😂
But in my opinion is it a Motocross bike with a “X“ in the name and a 18 inch wheel.
A real offroad bike is a KTM EXC (for you X-CW I think)...
F in the name is for FOUR STROKE. lol
Jonathon Davis Of course I mean “X“.
Haha That makes more sense! Lol A simple typo error...although the suspension/mappings/gauges make it much more usable for offroad/trails...the "X" is actually the "cross country" designation, so as stated above, it's designed for hare scrambles, GNCCs - basically all cross country applications. I was a previous owner of the 16 version and really loved it...just love my Husky 2 smokers more. ;) Cannot beat the versatility of a TX300i or XC300Tpi. :)
Just put a Rekluse on it. Done.
Learn how to use the lever on the left and save a grand!
Is this your idea or slow technical? I'm not being a dick about it but this to me is open. I'd ride a 450 in stuff all day. Hell I'd ride my 990 in that even. Technical for me is rocks, roots, signal track hard Enduro. Things normally the domain of a 250 or 300 2T, less stalling, less heat build up. My KTM 350 XC-F is a pain in the ass in slow technical. Hell Karl, you owned one too for a while so you might have some idea what i mean. They won't chug, like revs but go like hell. Still need to ride them like a 250F however. I preferred the 450 for that reason. 450 = lazy power and i like that alot. I am 108kg naked if anyone cares. :0)
He never said it was slow and technical. He said it was open.
@@toddkurtz7635The video name is good in 1st gear? With a title like that what is one to assume? Plus i didn't watch all the video. Karl does some great stuff but not sure why this one one has that title and that video. I might have missed the point somewhat.
@@twowheelpilot Hey Greg his name is Kyle
@@jakeschmidt7977 Thanks, my mistake.