I have had the honour to have worked on the Wellington in this video. The geodesic frame was very time consuming to strip down, clean and repaint as part of its restoration. During this time we had to walk up and down the inside of the fuselage - it was solid as a rock even though it was made over 80yrs ago. Well done Barnes!
During my 22 years service I had the privilege of working on the Vulcan, Hunter, Canberra, Phantom F4 & C130 Hercules. All fantastic aircraft in their own right. So there’s my top five ❤
There is no greater Spitfire fan-boi than me, but I genuinely feel the DC3/C47 deserves to be the top. Over 16,000 built in all forms with over 300 still flying today, and not just as Airshow demo's but still out there doing the biz as workhorses. Flown in every theater of war for a good 50 years, and still going strong in civilian skies nearly 80 years later. Nothing compares to that lifespan. How it was left out is stunning to me, I can only put it down to it just being a brilliant design for its purpose but without any particular engineering innovation? (PS. While on that, surely putting an elliptical wing on a fighter was a far greater innovation than the rivets?)
sbg911 to get the top 10 aircraft he will have to get out of the RAF museum and look at the planes of the world. Many others than what he mentioned are better aircraft !! !
No one better to present the video than Rob Bell. Perhaps a video could be made for the most under rated top five aircraft of which the Hurricane must be number one.
I used to work at the training college at Cosford, and used to take the students there and show them elements on different aircraft that they were studying.
Maybe a little off topic but my dad trained to fly in the Tiger Moth in Canada during the war . He did not tell us about his experiences apart from some light hearted moments . He related to me that one day he was flying in the Tiger Moth and the wind was so strong that the aircraft was not moving forward in the sky . I still smile when I remember him smiling as he told me the story .🙂
My top five: 1. DC3. Still carrying passengers and cargo in rough country 90 years after first flight. 2. Ford Trimotor. First plane to turn a profit from passengers instead of government subsidies. 3. B52. Still in front line service 60 years after manufacture. 4. T33. First flight 1948, last nation to retire it from front line service 2017. C130 Hercules. Not merely serving since the 1950s, but still being manufactured now. I could be wrong, but I think it holds the record for being in continuous production. Must be mentioned: Antonov An-2, a magnificent workhorse.
Excellent and inspirational! Sound choices superbly presented. Had a private sit in a Spitfire cockpit once and my first taste of aerobatics in a DH 82 Tiger Moth way back in 1978. Was a civilian flight instructor from 1986 to 1999. I have visited both Cosford and Hendon on numerous occasions and this made me really nostalgic!
My Grandad was a tail gunner in a Wellie at the start of the war. After a couple of daytime sorties over Kiel, losses were high, so they went to night bombing. During training, he was discovered to be totally night blind, and thus, pulled from flight duties. Hence, I am here today!!!
My dad was at boscombe down in the raf ,and saw the English Electric P1 fly in1954. He was stationed there 1952 to 1954. Also.saw the first Folland Midge fly as well. He had two Hunter f2 wn888 and wn892, a meteor f4 and a nf12 that he personally was responsible for.
My dad was also stationed at Boscombe Down, 1948 - 1951, after serving with the RAF regiment in India and Burma in WW2. Said he saw a variety of prototypes and first flights, unfortunately I don't have much info. Great that you got some good details from your dad.
There are so many aircraft that you’ve need a top 10 or even 20 . To me the phantom f4 / spitfire/ Catalina/ BF109 / dougy Dacotta all have a place in history throughout the ages .👍
Great video. Saw harriers train at Crich, the Vulcan land somewhere near Newark and each weekend some bod used to fly his Spitfire at Hucknall aerodrome (where Rolls Royce tested their jet engines).… 1990 Concorde did a 180 degree fly over the same airfield.
In the temporary post-war love-in between the allies, a Russian delegation was invited to RR to tour the engine manufacturing site. They wore special soft rubber soled shoes in order to get sample from any swarf of the metals used in the engines. They neednt of bothered. They labour Govt authorised the sale of nene engines to them.
My personal favourites are the Wellington, the Mosquito and the Beaufighter, and I've always preferred the Hurricane and the Typhoon to the Spitfire. Coming to jet aviation I love the EE Lightning, the Phantom, ( my brother worked on those when he served on the Ark Royal) and the Vulcan, and its such a shame that the TSR-2 didn't go into production because because she looks amazing.
Spent 5 years in a structures bay and have lost count on the number of countersunk rivets fitted to airframes, including avdel rivets. The rivet shown is one that doesn't need heat treating before fitting, unlike the ones used on the Jaguar airframes. I would nominate the Jaguar aircraft as it had to overcome the French metric system coupled with the British imperial system to build a formidable aircraft with the lowest downtime servicing of any aircraft in the RAF of its time.
I have always had the simplistic view that the Canberra was the natural replacement for the Mosquito. Both were conceived as light, fast bombers, reliant on a speedy escape. Both proved to be way more capable and agile than their developers' seemed to appreciate whilst the things were on the drawing boards.
im actually wondering what would have happened if you put barnes wallis and the engineers that designed the fritz X kit into a room. i mean: theres a massive chance that the group might end up developing a fritz X version for the tall boy and grand slam bombs.
If we're talking about aircraft at Cosford then my top 5 goes like this 5. Hawker Siddeley Nimrod 4. De Havilland Comet 3. Bristol Blenheim 2. Handley Page Hampden 1. Vickers Wellington
I have always liked the Nimrod, even when I scraped my knuckles fixing them or chilled to the bone, on the pan waiting to see them out or in. Both of their bases (maritime) were inhospitible as far as airfields were concerned. I swear that the rain at St Mawgan was the Atlantic, taking a short cut.
kathrynLiz Well the answer was already out there, the Bendix pressure carb, first used in 1938 on the Allison V1710 and when PACKARD started building the Merlin in 1941 that was the carb of choice while the stubborn bullheaded Brits continued with the float carb. Yes Packard made many changes to the Merlin, and the Brits received them !! !
Yes, but does the DC3 have a connection to Britain? That seems to have been part of the criteria. No ME262? No B52? No Nieuport? Or does this museum only have British aircraft?
@@SVest-qt7tl the Dakota as the c47 was known in RAF service served through the war and went on to form the bones of civil aviation in Europe as well as the US. My father worked for Field Aviation who were Pratt and Whitney reconditioners at Croydon airfield. In the 1950's and I grew up with the Dacks roaring over our house just off the end of the runway. It's spooky to think that we are fast approaching the point where 100 year old DC3s will still be flying, some of them still earning their keep and the Basler turbo daks will likely make it through the next 100 years.
@@SVest-qt7tl Well yes it does as the DC3/C47 helped in a huge way to save the Brits @$$'s in WWII , as well as 38,000 other various aircraft GIVEN to them inthe endevor to save them from the Germans !! !
Dont they have a mosquito??? That should be no1 easily if they do, it was built to take advantage of an untapped workforce without interfering with other aircrafts production. It was a genius design, it was the fastest flying aircraft at the time, able to carry the same bomb load as a b17, and to drop its bombs with far more accuracy with only a couple of aircrew, and was far safer to use as nothing flying could keep up with it.
The Tiger Moth is a terrible aircraft, the only reason it was built in such numbers was its cost. It has two characteristics that make it an abysmal trainer, its lateral stability and its appalling adverse yaw aileron gearing. The aircraft parked next to it however, the DHC1 Chipmunk was an incredible aircraft and fabulous trainer.
The instability and bad vices of an aircraft can be turned to an advantage - in a sort of, "If you can master this...". I agree about the Chippie - with its 12 Gauge blank starter(well, the ones I worked on), was a lovely aeroplane and this despite some of them having the distinct odour of vomit in the cockpit, following Cadet's Air Experience Flights.
The last time I visited the museum at Cosford they had a Lightning hanging from the ceiling in a traditional Lightning pose, nose up in a vertical climb.
As a Brit its hard to not be anglo centric on my favorite top 5. So i wont be ...... 1: Mosquito 'nuff said. 2: Lightening, straight up sex on supersonic stubby wings, forget about the short legs. 3: Harrier, its pretty unique. 4: Vulcan, the most awesome looking , sounding airshow aircraft ever. 5: damn, its either Victor or the Bucc. If Batman had a nuclear bomber, it would be the Victor But the Bucc is so unloved and unappreciated it gets my vote.
Rolls Royce came up with the flying bedstead for thrust vectoring which was the key to jet powered VTOL & like you said the Russians copied so why put them in the top 5 because they copied the Harrier and Concorde and the mig wasn’t the first swept wing aircraft in the world so just copied the Germans
The mistercraft gr7 is probably as worse. All the same problems as the sea harrier plus you get two sets of wings , you have to guess which set are for the gr7.
They are NOT planes or airplanes, all you yanks out there! They are aeroplanes. A plane is an imaginary surface of no thickness. I do not agree with your number one choice, either! Spitfire - PAH! The Hurricane would have been a better choice. It may be coincidence and entirely my opinion, but I rated the Tucks higher than the prissy Baders and Johnsons of Fighter Command. I have said it before, the hurricane was available in three times the numbers, was easier to maintain and had better battle survivability. You crow on about a couple of thousand Tiger Moths and gloss over the 11,000 + Wellingtons made, which were not really that innovative as they were not the first aeroplane made in that fashion. The HS P1127, I do agree with. I think the Lightning, shown in its natural attitude, vertically, against the wall of the museum at Cosford (where I was born, by the way). A pure born interceptor. This from an ex-Phantom Phixer of the eighties. I'd have also included the Nimrod, which suffered so much bad press due to the AEW3 debacle but was an innovative submarine hunter back in the day. The whole world used turboprops for the job at the time except the RAF who tried, without success, to convince NATO of the supremacy of the propless hunter. Funny, I think, that NATO were not interested until America had one of their own. Oh! I spent time on the Nimrod fleet in the seventies, too.
doddsey DO NOT tell us Yanks how to pronounce OUR words, we have moved into the 21st Century too F'n bad you are stuck in the 16th century !!! And to find the top5 or 10 he would have to get out of the RAF territory !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 It is Doddsy, for a start, stop corrupting my name - I guess the habit runs deep. This has nothing to do with pronounciation, 'airplane' and 'aeroplane' are completely different words. In my opinion, one is a real word and one is a lazy corruption of that word.
The Mig-15?? Really? One should read Chuck Yeager's take on the Mig-15. He flew the first one capture from the North Koreans and thought it was highly unstable and a death trap. So I would rate the Me-262 above the Mig!
He flew the MiG 15 against the local base commander in a Sabre and trashed him every time in the MiG. The MiG was perfectly good with a proficient pilot. Chuck knew what he wrote about.
Was not the Mig-15 developed and flew in three years and the engine a crib based on a British jet engine given FOC by the Labour Government to the USSR in 1947?
@@Peter-lm3ic The RR Nene also was developed and installed in the U.S. Navy’s Grumman Panther. The U.S.N. should have done the defected MiG evaluation, they would have been perfectly familiar with its engine.
@@wilburfinnigan2142 The trailer edge is swept as well, just not as much as the leading edge. It is a swept wing, which is different from the wing on the DC3/C47.
Maybe a little off topic but my dad trained to fly in the Tiger Moth in Canada during the war . He did not tell us about his experiences apart from some light hearted moments . He related to me that one day he was flying in the Tiger Moth and the wind was so strong that the aircraft was not moving forward in the sky . I still smile when I remember him smiling as he told me the story .🙂
The Mosquito, the Vulcan and the Electric Lighting are some of my favourites.
Totally agree. The Mozzy is just beautiful.
I have had the honour to have worked on the Wellington in this video. The geodesic frame was very time consuming to strip down, clean and repaint as part of its restoration. During this time we had to walk up and down the inside of the fuselage - it was solid as a rock even though it was made over 80yrs ago.
Well done Barnes!
During my 22 years service I had the privilege of working on the Vulcan, Hunter, Canberra, Phantom F4 & C130 Hercules. All fantastic aircraft in their own right. So there’s my top five ❤
There is no greater Spitfire fan-boi than me, but I genuinely feel the DC3/C47 deserves to be the top. Over 16,000 built in all forms with over 300 still flying today, and not just as Airshow demo's but still out there doing the biz as workhorses. Flown in every theater of war for a good 50 years, and still going strong in civilian skies nearly 80 years later. Nothing compares to that lifespan. How it was left out is stunning to me, I can only put it down to it just being a brilliant design for its purpose but without any particular engineering innovation?
(PS. While on that, surely putting an elliptical wing on a fighter was a far greater innovation than the rivets?)
sbg911 to get the top 10 aircraft he will have to get out of the RAF museum and look at the planes of the world. Many others than what he mentioned are better aircraft !! !
#1 The DC3. You missed the obvious Rob. It's still flying around the world and even being rebuilt .
No one better to present the video than Rob Bell. Perhaps a video could be made for the most under rated top five aircraft of which the Hurricane must be number one.
Yes, we think Rob is great too. The next Top 5 will be from RAF Museum London and coming very soon. Thank you for your comment.
I used to work at the training college at Cosford, and used to take the students there and show them elements on different aircraft that they were studying.
Maybe a little off topic but my dad trained to fly in the Tiger Moth in Canada during the war .
He did not tell us about his experiences apart from some light hearted moments .
He related to me that one day he was flying in the Tiger Moth and the wind was so strong that the aircraft was not moving forward in the sky .
I still smile when I remember him smiling as he told me the story .🙂
My top five: 1. DC3. Still carrying passengers and cargo in rough country 90 years after first flight. 2. Ford Trimotor. First plane to turn a profit from passengers instead of government subsidies. 3. B52. Still in front line service 60 years after manufacture. 4. T33. First flight 1948, last nation to retire it from front line service 2017. C130 Hercules. Not merely serving since the 1950s, but still being manufactured now. I could be wrong, but I think it holds the record for being in continuous production. Must be mentioned: Antonov An-2, a magnificent workhorse.
You do realise that this top 5 is from the collection of aircraft housed at RAF Cosford, for the RAF Museum? 😕
@@wessexdruid7598 oh I dont think we have to worry about that, the top 5 at cosford need considered in any top 5
@@aldenconsolver3428 You don't need to worry about the whole premise of the video? OK.
Excellent and inspirational! Sound choices superbly presented. Had a private sit in a Spitfire cockpit once and my first taste of aerobatics in a DH 82 Tiger Moth way back in 1978. Was a civilian flight instructor from 1986 to 1999. I have visited both Cosford and Hendon on numerous occasions and this made me really nostalgic!
My Grandad was a tail gunner in a Wellie at the start of the war. After a couple of daytime sorties over Kiel, losses were high, so they went to night bombing. During training, he was discovered to be totally night blind, and thus, pulled from flight duties. Hence, I am here today!!!
Great video, thanks. Looking forward to more of these!
Thank you. As you can tell from many of our other replies here, the RAF Museum London's Top 5 is coming very soon.
Dakota, a legend still flying.
So sad the Hurricane rarely gets a mention despite the amount of work carried out by its pilots during WW2.
Ahhh you walked right past my favourite...TSR-2
Sweet. It's so nice to have adversaries who like to show their good will.
My dad was at boscombe down in the raf ,and saw the English Electric P1 fly in1954. He was stationed there 1952 to 1954. Also.saw the first Folland Midge fly as well.
He had two Hunter f2 wn888 and wn892, a meteor f4 and a nf12 that he personally was responsible for.
My dad was also stationed at Boscombe Down, 1948 - 1951, after serving with the RAF regiment in India and Burma in WW2. Said he saw a variety of prototypes and first flights, unfortunately I don't have much info. Great that you got some good details from your dad.
The English Electric P1 & Folland Midge were both the brainchild of WEW Teddy Petter. As were the Lysander & Canberra. A prolific genius.
Excellent!
Bravo 😄 comprehensive and informative presentation 👍🏻
Thank you
There are so many aircraft that you’ve need a top 10 or even 20 . To me the phantom f4 / spitfire/ Catalina/ BF109 / dougy Dacotta all have a place in history throughout the ages .👍
Great video. Saw harriers train at Crich, the Vulcan land somewhere near Newark and each weekend some bod used to fly his Spitfire at Hucknall aerodrome (where Rolls Royce tested their jet engines).… 1990 Concorde did a 180 degree fly over the same airfield.
Thank you @briz1965
Great choices! I'd be happy to pilot any of them, but my favourite would probably be the Moth (no chance of forgetting to lower the undercarriage).
In the temporary post-war love-in between the allies, a Russian delegation was invited to RR to tour the engine manufacturing site.
They wore special soft rubber soled shoes in order to get sample from any swarf of the metals used in the engines.
They neednt of bothered. They labour Govt authorised the sale of nene engines to them.
My personal favourites are the Wellington, the Mosquito and the Beaufighter, and I've always preferred the Hurricane and the Typhoon to the Spitfire. Coming to jet aviation I love the EE Lightning, the Phantom, ( my brother worked on those when he served on the Ark Royal) and the Vulcan, and its such a shame that the TSR-2 didn't go into production because because she looks amazing.
Interesting film, great museum to visit.
Spent 5 years in a structures bay and have lost count on the number of countersunk rivets fitted to airframes, including avdel rivets.
The rivet shown is one that doesn't need heat treating before fitting, unlike the ones used on the Jaguar airframes.
I would nominate the Jaguar aircraft as it had to overcome the French metric system coupled with the British imperial system to build a formidable aircraft with the lowest downtime servicing of any aircraft in the RAF of its time.
Love Cosford, if you like aircraft, are UK based then you've no excuse not to visit- enjoy!
Excellent video, I do hope this is continued with other presenters
Thank you. It will continue with the RAF Museum London's Top 5 very soon (with Rob Bell, again)
I love the boxy soviet jets, my fave being the Mig-23 for its wings and landing gear
I always loved the way they were built, they look so crude yet functional,no frills all rough edges and ugly finishes but get the job done.
Bob Johnson ( Australia ) flew many WW2 missions and he said the Canberra was his favourite to fly. He flew the Mossie too.
I have always had the simplistic view that the Canberra was the natural replacement for the Mosquito. Both were conceived as light, fast bombers, reliant on a speedy escape. Both proved to be way more capable and agile than their developers' seemed to appreciate whilst the things were on the drawing boards.
im actually wondering what would have happened if you put barnes wallis and the engineers that designed the fritz X kit into a room. i mean: theres a massive chance that the group might end up developing a fritz X version for the tall boy and grand slam bombs.
Excellent presentation, brilliant museum have visited often.
Thank you. The RAF Museum London Top 5 is coming very soon.
If we're talking about aircraft at Cosford then my top 5 goes like this
5. Hawker Siddeley Nimrod
4. De Havilland Comet
3. Bristol Blenheim
2. Handley Page Hampden
1. Vickers Wellington
I have always liked the Nimrod, even when I scraped my knuckles fixing them or chilled to the bone, on the pan waiting to see them out or in. Both of their bases (maritime) were inhospitible as far as airfields were concerned. I swear that the rain at St Mawgan was the Atlantic, taking a short cut.
All the Spit really needed was a fuel injected engine.... the carburetor was its Achilles Heel, making negative 'G' manoevers hazardous...
kathrynLiz Well the answer was already out there, the Bendix pressure carb, first used in 1938 on the Allison V1710 and when PACKARD started building the Merlin in 1941 that was the carb of choice while the stubborn bullheaded Brits continued with the float carb. Yes Packard made many changes to the Merlin, and the Brits received them !! !
Fantastic.
Thank you
TSR2!
My favourite aeroplane is...whatever i am in when flying.
Mosquito and the DC3 should be on the list in my opinion.
Yes, but does the DC3 have a connection to Britain? That seems to have been part of the criteria. No ME262? No B52? No Nieuport? Or does this museum only have British aircraft?
@@SVest-qt7tl the Dakota as the c47 was known in RAF service served through the war and went on to form the bones of civil aviation in Europe as well as the US. My father worked for Field Aviation who were Pratt and Whitney reconditioners at Croydon airfield. In the 1950's and I grew up with the Dacks roaring over our house just off the end of the runway. It's spooky to think that we are fast approaching the point where 100 year old DC3s will still be flying, some of them still earning their keep and the Basler turbo daks will likely make it through the next 100 years.
@@SVest-qt7tl Well yes it does as the DC3/C47 helped in a huge way to save the Brits @$$'s in WWII , as well as 38,000 other various aircraft GIVEN to them inthe endevor to save them from the Germans !! !
Dont they have a mosquito??? That should be no1 easily if they do, it was built to take advantage of an untapped workforce without interfering with other aircrafts production. It was a genius design, it was the fastest flying aircraft at the time, able to carry the same bomb load as a b17, and to drop its bombs with far more accuracy with only a couple of aircrew, and was far safer to use as nothing flying could keep up with it.
Wrong.
It's the Chinook, and specifically Bravo November.
End of.
Ah! BN, hero of the Falklands and other theatres.
@@doddsy2978 - I've flown in the back of her a few times. An awesome aircraft full of history.
I know you never showed one . But my favourite aircraft has always been the Avro Lancaster . Just about the greatest aircraft ever built for me .
Mosquito over the MIG 15!
The Tiger Moth is a terrible aircraft, the only reason it was built in such numbers was its cost. It has two characteristics that make it an abysmal trainer, its lateral stability and its appalling adverse yaw aileron gearing.
The aircraft parked next to it however, the DHC1 Chipmunk was an incredible aircraft and fabulous trainer.
The instability and bad vices of an aircraft can be turned to an advantage - in a sort of, "If you can master this...".
I agree about the Chippie - with its 12 Gauge blank starter(well, the ones I worked on), was a lovely aeroplane and this despite some of them having the distinct odour of vomit in the cockpit, following Cadet's Air Experience Flights.
What? No Mossie?
I am dumbfounded.
Difficult to leave out the
ME 263, the Vulcan and of course the Mosquito…. No argument with the number 1 spot though, everybody loves the Spitfire!
The Me 263 never actually flew (a development of the Me 163 Komet rocket aircraft). Did you mean 262? 😕
do not think they have a lightning. there
We have a lightning at both our Midlands and London sites 👍
The last time I visited the museum at Cosford they had a Lightning hanging from the ceiling in a traditional Lightning pose, nose up in a vertical climb.
As a Brit its hard to not be anglo centric on my favorite top 5.
So i wont be ......
1: Mosquito 'nuff said.
2: Lightening, straight up sex on supersonic stubby wings, forget about the short legs.
3: Harrier, its pretty unique.
4: Vulcan, the most awesome looking , sounding airshow aircraft ever.
5: damn, its either Victor or the Bucc. If Batman had a nuclear bomber, it would be the Victor
But the Bucc is so unloved and unappreciated it gets my vote.
Rolls Royce came up with the flying bedstead for thrust vectoring which was the key to jet powered VTOL & like you said the Russians copied so why put them in the top 5 because they copied the Harrier and Concorde and the mig wasn’t the first swept wing aircraft in the world so just copied the Germans
Precisely well said.
The Wellington was hardly unique the Vickers Wellesley usec the geodetic airframe before the Wellington.
The shitfire? Really? As long as you don't need to go very far.
Brilliant video but would have had a Mosquito in there... Everyone to their own... 😊... Huzzah!!
See that they have dumped the TSR 3 in a warehouse ready to sell it for scrap? 😮
TSR2? not TSR3?
@@trevorhart545 sorry.. upset has gone to my 🤕
@@boffingeorge don't be upset. We can assure you the TSR2 is still on display to the public in hangar 2 at the Midlands site Cosford.
The mistercraft gr7 is probably as worse. All the same problems as the sea harrier plus you get two sets of wings , you have to guess which set are for the gr7.
5 Lancaster
4 spitfire
3 mosquito
2 tsr-2
1 concorde
NO . . .
Mosquito. Lightning. Buccaneer. In that order. Maybe Buck beats Lightning. But Mossie no1.
They are NOT planes or airplanes, all you yanks out there! They are aeroplanes. A plane is an imaginary surface of no thickness.
I do not agree with your number one choice, either! Spitfire - PAH! The Hurricane would have been a better choice. It may be coincidence and entirely my opinion, but I rated the Tucks higher than the prissy Baders and Johnsons of Fighter Command. I have said it before, the hurricane was available in three times the numbers, was easier to maintain and had better battle survivability.
You crow on about a couple of thousand Tiger Moths and gloss over the 11,000 + Wellingtons made, which were not really that innovative as they were not the first aeroplane made in that fashion.
The HS P1127, I do agree with. I think the Lightning, shown in its natural attitude, vertically, against the wall of the museum at Cosford (where I was born, by the way). A pure born interceptor. This from an ex-Phantom Phixer of the eighties.
I'd have also included the Nimrod, which suffered so much bad press due to the AEW3 debacle but was an innovative submarine hunter back in the day. The whole world used turboprops for the job at the time except the RAF who tried, without success, to convince NATO of the supremacy of the propless hunter. Funny, I think, that NATO were not interested until America had one of their own. Oh! I spent time on the Nimrod fleet in the seventies, too.
doddsey DO NOT tell us Yanks how to pronounce OUR words, we have moved into the 21st Century too F'n bad you are stuck in the 16th century !!! And to find the top5 or 10 he would have to get out of the RAF territory !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 It is Doddsy, for a start, stop corrupting my name - I guess the habit runs deep.
This has nothing to do with pronounciation, 'airplane' and 'aeroplane' are completely different words. In my opinion, one is a real word and one is a lazy corruption of that word.
I wish Rob would speak slower so that the hard-of-thinking might keep up!
We know you are joking, but there is a setting in UA-cam to slow down a video
@@RoyalAirForceMuseum 😁
Thanks
All Brits speak fast and slur their words anddo NOT open their mouths when they babble !!!
The Mig-15?? Really? One should read Chuck Yeager's take on the Mig-15. He flew the first one capture from the North Koreans and thought it was highly unstable and a death trap. So I would rate the Me-262 above the Mig!
He flew the MiG 15 against the local base commander in a Sabre and trashed him every time in the MiG. The MiG was perfectly good with a proficient pilot. Chuck knew what he wrote about.
The 15 changed the entire air war in Korea. An outstanding plane.
Was not the Mig-15 developed and flew in three years and the engine a crib based on a British jet engine given FOC by the Labour Government to the USSR in 1947?
@@Peter-lm3ic The RR Nene also was developed and installed in the U.S. Navy’s Grumman Panther. The U.S.N. should have done the defected MiG evaluation, they would have been perfectly familiar with its engine.
If um right the mig 15 was fitted with a engineered British engine after we have but to rhem😮
Mozzie is a huge ommission. Better than the spit.
Gesture of good will to the Russians? Come on ! Nobody is that irresponsible.
ME262 had swept wings and was a production aircraft.
No, it had centre of gravity adjusted wing geometry. The sweep was trivial and insignificant. Look up supersonic theory.
grahmcook the Me262 had a swept LEADING edge just as he DC3/C47 had !! DUUUUUHHH!!!!!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 The trailer edge is swept as well, just not as much as the leading edge. It is a swept wing, which is different from the wing on the DC3/C47.
The FD2 was all about Concorde add TSR 2, the jet engine and the Comet and you have the story of Britain giving away it all 🫣
Maybe a little off topic but my dad trained to fly in the Tiger Moth in Canada during the war .
He did not tell us about his experiences apart from some light hearted moments .
He related to me that one day he was flying in the Tiger Moth and the wind was so strong that the aircraft was not moving forward in the sky .
I still smile when I remember him smiling as he told me the story .🙂