How to Build a Custom Built-In Using Stock Shelving | Ask This Old House
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- This Old House general contractor Tom Silva transforms stock shelving into a custom built-in. (See below for a shopping list, tools)
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Shopping List for Building a Custom Built-In Using Stock Shelving:
- Freestanding shelving units [amzn.to/2ZGBXsK]
- 1 1/4-inch decking screws [amzn.to/2ZAwaF3], to fasten cabinets together
- 3-inch drywall screws [amzn.to/2ZAfX72], to attach 2x4 nailer
- Wood shims [amzn.to/2MLwu1J], to plumb the cabinets
- Wood glue [amzn.to/2ZCXhzl]
- Construction adhesive [amzn.to/2Lc02Ut]
- 1x8s and 1x6s [amzn.to/2NIz4Fl], to cut face frame, fascia, and other trim
- 2x4s [amzn.to/2zwt6PF], to make nailer
- Crown molding [amzn.to/2L85UOi]
- Acrylic latex paint (semigloss) [amzn.to/2ZADAZ7]
Tools List for Building a Custom Built-In Using Stock Shelving:
- Utility knife [amzn.to/2NIJhBQ], to cut through old paint and caulk
- Two flat bars [amzn.to/34cKYNA], to pry molding from wall
- Oscillating multitool [amzn.to/2LbN74A] with plunge-cut wood blade [amzn.to/2ZFp8ie], to cut through baseboard
- Spring clamps [amzn.to/2NMB0N4]
- Impact driver [amzn.to/2ZAgVQI]
- Screwdriver [amzn.to/2NH9rVq]
- 4-foot level [amzn.to/2MMw630]
- Stud finder [amzn.to/2Hygz2C], to locate the wall studs
- Pin nailer [amzn.to/34g83ir] and 3/4-inch pins [amzn.to/2ZzcLo4], to attach trim
- Finishing nailer [amzn.to/2NIlCBq] and 1 3/4-inch nails [amzn.to/34dIQW0], to attach face frame and trim
- Air compressor [amzn.to/2Lb8e7i], to power pin and finishing nailers
- Scriber tool [amzn.to/2ZFLAbg], to scribe the face frame to fit against wall
- Circular saw [amzn.to/2zAba6V], to trim scribed face frame parts
- Caulking gun [amzn.to/2MKNipL], for construction adhesive, to adhere shelves
- Sash brush [amzn.to/2zwckAh]
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"Want to tackle the crown molding up there?"
Me: Yeah, when you leave so I can avoid embarrassment.
at least its white paint crown so he can caulk it up
He hacks it up too
like the scribe along the wall with a compass technique...always learn something new from Tommy
That bevel for the leading edge with the circular saw was slick.
Boy is that a problem solver-great technique
@@Dobbs321 so slick, Tommy rules
@@Dobbs321 that circular saw was an "oldie" !
This guy is a true professional, makes it look so easy and BAM amazing job.
Ikea Canada sells "Hemnes" bookcases etc. They are all pine and come prefinished or paintable. They are nice and you can do the same job as this with them.
millerdaleman those are really nice compared to the Billys. But I've had six Billys for over 25 years. Very durable.
Probably cost more too here u can pretty much make ur own price its a tutorial u dont have to use the exact measurements or style
they also don't have the extension piece at the top, so you can't get them to be very tall unfortunately. But they are nice for sure!
Good idea, Hemnes is better for this purpose because it's real wood and can be more sanded and painted; I have 2 Hemnes bookcases and considered using them for that but decide it will be cheaper and more customized to the room to mill out my own built-ins using plywood since I have a table saw and a circular saw. But then again, time is money too so it may not be feasible for everyone.
Please buy something better than Ikea trash.
nails must have been on sale the day they installed that baseboard!
Lol honestly, it looks like they added one at every inch
Anyone else catch that the first long screw Tom screwed into the stud didn’t actually hit the stud? You could tell by the way the impact driver kept spinning and they clipped the video. In the next scene you can clearly see the two holes in the back of the bookcase where they he had to drive in another screw. Tom does exceptional work but even highly skilled professionals make mistakes from time to time 😉
With all the work involved, may as well as built the shelves as well. Getting the new trim white to match the lament white will be tough.
Regardless of the stock book cases that he used, this is an excellent tutorial for how to do it. Just substitute real wood or maple or whatever you want in place of the billy bookcase.
Very, very nice project. The homeowner's bookcases looked like particleboard--hope they hold up (particleboard shelves, especially, tend to sag over time). The install looks lovely.
You can always replace the shelves with solid pine or plywood boards painted to match the bookcase. The shelves are the parts that sags, not the sides.
You can also add supports to the middle of the shelves. There's a youtube video that shows how to improve the Billy bookcase's durability that shows how to support the shelf middle invisibly.
5:35 Tommy missed the stud. heh. You can then see it later. Tommy doesn't mess up often.
I did something similar in my son's room. I can tell you, though, that no matter what effort you put into this, the chipboard still doesn't hold up well over time. The shelves tend to sag, shelf pin holes tend to tear out, and the melamine coating tends to come off.
Good for a basic homeowner type project, though, which I guess is what this show is all about.
I thought he missed it the first time i saw this haha, went in too easy. Good eye!
I was thinking the same thing. This is lot of trouble to go to for stock, particle board shelving. My concern is the piece sagging/ripping over time with regular exposure to temps/moisture etc. Why not just make real built-ins?
lol right when i saw that i came straight to the comments to see if anyone else noticed
I was thinking as he was about to drill the screw in that there wasn't a chance I would be lucky enough to hit a stud my first try. I was glad to see he missed it too. Ha ha.
Ha...yeah, I was a little surprised how he did that. I learned to transfer the measurements to the back of the cabinet and make pilot holes. But maybe that's because he still wanted to shift it around in place?
There always in these cute New England homes that are spotless. Even the owners are squeaky clean preppies . Constantly working with the best new tools that the average homeowner does not have or cannot afford.
Excellent job. I particularly liked the technique employed to hide the gap between the cabinet and the wall, something that I have been puzzling over for some time. I was somewhat surprised that you used a circular saw rather than a jigsaw to trim the gap-fill board.
Circ saw will give a lot straighter and quicker cut and walls don't curve that much
@@alijabos what dream are you living in? That surely doesn’t happen in my world of being a professional high end custom cabinetry maker
@Mi M haha well if you're that good you can figure it out with a circular saw
@@alijabos are you really that green?
I thought we were going to get through the whole video without hearing the word, AMAZING!!! Doh!!
"And I'll just screw the shelves into the studs I measured out for..."
Clearly isn't hitting a stud at 5:35 😂
lolol.. i was bout to say the same thing!
Hahaha I came to the comments to find this. Cracked me up!
I'm not a carpenter by any means, but after all the work of trying to make a particle board shelves system look like a custom built in, wouldn't you be better off just doing the custom built in with quality solid wood that will last forever? Over time the particle board is going to turn to crap. My home was built in 1960 and still has the original cabinetry. Solid, strong, and still in excellent condition. I guarantee the particle board shelving wouldn't have lasted 57 years.
I'm assuming that the homeowners had already bought the shelving.
LOL that is what I keep trying to tell my wife!
The cost of solid hardwood is absurd now. Pricing those shelves in hardwood is nearly a grand as of 2/21/18 based on the board-feet needed. If anything a high quality plywood with hardwood trim would get it down to around $300-$500 bucks.
My inlaws have the old version of this billy type shelf. It's filld to the rafters with heavy books and has been standing for many years now. Mine is a lot younger and my girlfriend gave it the same treatment with adding as many books as possible. All the shelves are bending down in the middle now.
Im guessing they would rather breathe air than to cut down 5 trees just so they can have a bookshelve made or "real" wood
Tom is a Rock Star!
They do look good! And, how you did the "scribe" (?) technique!! I have definitely learned something here! Thank! And, CONGRATS on the baby! (I am sure you've had it by now . . .)
Maybe because I'm from a city with expensive real estate, but I was upset when they covered that gap. That was good storage space!
D Raphael
Must remember that a place for a mouse to Scrabble around and for spiders to not be bothered is a benefit and extremely essential to any home.
He could have made them with plexi glass and led lights to make the top into a display box.
Nice work. The modified shelves look great.
Note fort ikea hackers (the source for the shelves), if you screw it against the wall, use the framing of the shelve, not the thin backpanel ;)
+sucotronic Actually the back of that top extension (where he screwed through) is thicker board, not like that thin cardboard backing the main unit.
+Garrett Grimm you can se at 5:26 that he is doing the holes in th back panel.
It should've been anchored from the top of the cabinet to the wall studs with L-brackets not through the backing, but what do I know.
Or cut some 2x4s and frame inside the ikea crap to make it strong then mount it to studs
the entire units are secured by the top face frames (the 1x8 pieces at the top that he anchored to the 2x4 nailers he fastened to the ceiling. That thing ain't going nowhere.
"I'll gently pry the old baseboards away from the wall."
*yank*
That's what the prah bah is fah.
Gotta use SOME force (it was originally nailed and caulked)--looked fine to me.
Learned a lot from this vid ...
Thank you kindly.
I would have used the top for lighting. Build it into the board. And could have put hinges on the left side wall trim to put whatever, like a broom or shotgun when a gypsy tries to steal the baby.
I know, I know this comment started out great then just went other places.
Yeah, but I'm human and make mistakes. So I had to make one by finishing so unethically.!?
The quality of the acting never ceases to amaze me.
Couldn't believe a home owner that actually knew how to use a power tool
@10:13 it sounds like he is about to start playing Crazy Train haha! Allllll aboooooard!
I've been watching this show since I was a wee child.
Just plain awesome
@5:36 -- whooopppsss..missed the stud
Yup
"My oscillating saw will make a nice clean cut in this basebahd in the cahnah"
Didn't even need a meashahd drawring!
Tommy is the best, id work for free with him to learn
I was wondering, wouldn't it be a little more economical to make simple shelves from pine? Easier adhesion with glue and paint too. Those IKEA billy shelves aren't too cheap for a couple of hollow boards
Funny thing is I have some IKEA billy shelves and they're holding up real well.
I have a desk and shelf unit from Ikea I purchased over 30 years ago. Still holding up very well.
I have some Billy shelves that I purchased about 10 years ago and after four moves and a crap-ton of books crammed into them, they are really going strong. They aren't as expensive as buying the wood and having to measure, cut to size and assemble.
I did my whole library using Billy shelving, and I put a lot of weight on them. They've held up great. You could certainly get classier shelving, but for flat-pack stuff, they're a step up from most. You need time, know-how, and some specific tools to properly do adjustable shelving from scratch and have it come out any good.
I know it's been 6 years, but the answer to your question is, no. If you haven't built shelves from scratch you might know how much effort it is. Price out some pine and the rest of the material and you will find, if you value your own time and effort at all, it's more effective to buy the basic units and dress them up.
I love this! Thank you!!!
Tom missed the stud on that first screw while attaching cabinet to the wall.
Rock on 🤘 Tommy
Hey Tommy, I love the This Old House videos and I’ve always seen you use tapered countersinking drill bits and always wanted some for myself, could you provide a link to them please?
Gosh, I wish I had someone to help me do jobs around the house, this is awesome!! Where did you get the shelf units??
These are Billy bookcases from ikea
what are the chances that the store bought shelves are going to be just the right width to sit right on the window and leave the same space for trim on both sides of the room? I bet they modified that thinner shelf off camera.
A+ Thank you.
They should have put a solid piece of board across the entire top front and then put the crown molding on.
It seems like the shelving should go above the window similar to what was done below the window.
Great video
How long have u guys been doing this kind of work
Great idears
Surprised with all the detail work that they didn’t cut back the stool to fit the bookcases tight to the window casing. Maybe aesthetics? Regardless, it would take me 2 weeks to complete that project.
Would like to see Norm's solution as well. ;-)
I can imagine Norm working on the crown molding while Tommy does the baseboards, shelves, etc
Why would anyone use partial board for something like this?
You can call me stupid ' & I don't really care ' but the house we live in is well over 100 yrs. old . with that being said ' I have a 15X 8 ' hall hall way for a garage & at the end is a closite that I made shelves to make it a food pantry . & above this was an 8x4x3 foot area that was covered w/ paneling . I E waist'ed space ' Im sure u get the meaning of this . Jimmie R
James Rodgers
Why not put them against the walls instead of the windowsill? They've wasted a couple of inches that could be used on that shelf under the window.
Where do you get the 1/8” filler strips to fill that small gap on the top shelf???
He said he ripped them from larger wood on his table saw. Which means he heard some other dude doing that between takes while sipping a creamy hazelnut latte. Delicious!
You could use paint mixing sticks as alternative for example.
I just bought a new house and have been obsessing on this topic of taking Ikea and bringing it into the look of the house. That and benches and cabinets. Old houses just don't have storage.
Didn’t he appear on ‘This Old House’ from time to time?
This guy is like tommy is in my house and I will ask him for everything
@ThisOldHouse I am concerned about this video as it demonstrates an unsafe practice: the bookshelves were improperly secured to the stud. Was this video made before Ikea products started falling over onto children? Separately the baseboard was removed behind the bookshelves even though that model of bookshelves already has a cutout.
Don't forget to always wear brown leather shoes and a button down plaid when doing work around the house
Hi David wolf have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
“Alright you idiot you say you’ve done crown molding before? Oh yeah show me “
Why go through all that and use the garbage materials of the stock shelving?
Why does Tom "pulse" his driver? (e.g. 5:34)
You have a good chance of stripping the screw if you press the trigger all the way whenever you're screwing into wood, or any material that isn't predrilled.
You always want that feedback. (Is it going straight? Did I miss the stud?) "Pulsing" a drill/driver is a good way to get that. I always "pulse" whenever I screw stuff. I pull the trigger all the way only when I'm drilling.
@@aurvaroy6670 Thank you! I totally get that idea of getting "feedback" while driving a screw so you can make small adjustments as needed. I appreciate the response. Cheers.
Love this show but cant STAND his screw driver trigger pulls. Get me every time !!
That " extension unit" is a shoeshelf. I have the same one..lol good idea though.
Stupid middle ad keeps messing up my buffering.
@5:35 clearly missed the stud.
but you can't really paint those melamine coated bookshelves... (?)
Well the tittle clearly says “stock shelving” so I don’t know what you all complaining about.
I have watched this old house fore 50 years. Well maybe only 30. Why does Tommy use his batt- drivers, like ern--ern-- ern--. Is he finger changeled?
They just made their house difficult to sell, whenever that day comes. Built-in shelves make the room look smaller, and some homebuyers might not want it. There are ways to add shelving that don't entail damaging a room.
Dang, this didn't seem scripted 🤪
8:40 LOL.
Built in laminated particle board, classy
Didn't care for the Toyota ad in the middle of the video.
Google chrome on PC with free ad blocker plus in the app store. Haven't seen an ad in years.
homeowner is cocky and did a terrible job on the one thing he said he can do which was the crown molding
Narcissist with limited skills.
i dear ,,really
Customer: Thanks Tommy, they look custom made
Everyone: They were custom made
They weren't, they were custom fitted.
@@volundrfrey896 okay smart guy volundr. You think your better than us or something
Excellent, I learned a lot. When you watch a guy with thirty years experience it looks so easy and you think to yourself, hey I could do that.Then when you try it yourself it's a totally different story.
For sure. It's so disappointing. I once watched the Vancouver Carpenter tape a drywall joint on a ceiling. I thought it looked pretty easy. Lol, when I tried it, there was joint compound in my hair and falling to the floor. I soon realized that it takes years of experience to learn these types of skills.
When he did the 2" measurement to match the wall, that blew my mind!
😂😆🤣
Man, I need a little more praise then 7:54
LMAO
So true! Lol
I hope Tommy reinforced that shelf right underneath the window, because when that baby becomes a toddler he/she is gonna want to climb on top to look out the window.
@18:15 you can see he made another platform for that uppershelf.
I thought the same thing myself!
If he dies, he dies
That is incredible. Simple, I'm sure for someone who knows what they are doing... what a classy job. Looks spectacular.
that compass / scribe moment was superb.
This guy is the real deal. He isnt some clown UA-camr who is giving tutorials about things he doesn't know anything about. I've been a carpenter for a long time, but i still manage to pick up some good tips from him. Great job.
I would be nervous to do my own crown molding with Tommy there.
Another 3 hours with a track saw and a shelf pin jig and you could have built an heirloom quality bookcase.
i loved this! Help! ....i am an old Yankee living in the deep south so i love this craftmanship but also the sounds and sensabilities of the North East.
“Anchored” it to the studs by screwing through the ~3/32 inch thick, tacked on, decorative backer. hmmm
The tops are screwed into the ceiling n bottoms r propped up. Basically just to keep it from falling forward. Someone climbing on it would crack the shelves already.
Looks to be made by ikea and that’s where the recommended you to anchor to wall
I'd think a simple L bracket installed to the top of the cabinet and into the stud might do a better job, plus it would be hidden behind the top trim.
I would've placed the cabinets on boards so that the base moulding of the test of the room could then be ran across the bottom for a more built in look. They're was plenty of room to do this since they had to fill in the top anyways.
I'm truly surprised that Tommy didn't do this here.
5:40 tommy missed the stud 😂
love watching a skilled carpenter at work!
30+ yr custom cabinetmaker here. Those questioning the choice of melamine are absolutely right -- it will sag and generally degrade over time. But an even better choice than solid stock would be cabinet- or furniture-grade plywood (not the imported stuff at the box stores, either). It's dimensionally stable (I.e., it won't expand/contract with temperature and humidity changes), the shelves won't sag (especially if reinforced with a bullnose along the front edge), and it won't disintegrate if exposed to a plumbing leak. Looks like the homeowners committed to the IKEA route before TOH got involved, so I guess Tommy was more or less stuck with particleboard.
I was glad to see the homeowner cope those inside miters on the crown, however!
Bitter Clinger58 If you cant get it from the box stores, where can you get that type of wood? We are considering building our closet and really need something that will last.
Great job Tom! You make it look so easy!
I see a lot of comments referencing IKEA cabinets. I did not see IKEA referenced in the materials list, I think it just says stock cabinets. So, quality level is up to you. Overall, I think it was a good video and a way for us beginners to give less expensive cabinets a built-in look.
Those are easily Ikea Billy cabinets. The link in the materials list is not to 'stock cabinets'.
"The faischer"
Gotta love his New England accent
Cant build the bookshelf but can cut and install crownmolding?
Are there any modifications needed if the bookcases are installed on top of carpet, or do I cut & remove the carpet where the bookcases would go?
You cut and remove the carpet before you install something like this.
Hey Tom, what's an "I-deer"?
whoever put in that baseboard really didnt skimp on the nails. Theres one every 2 inches
5:20 there's enough space on the top; you can use L-shaped brackets (IKEA provide them with the BILLY model they are using) to secure it on the wall and the top of the bookshelf
Question on those 1/8” filler strips. Did Tommy rip those all from a sheet of 1/8” plywood??
All I can find at Lowe’s or Home Depot in strips long enough is 1/4” thickness. Any other places that sell 1/8” thick strips I can just cut to length??
Wooden shelves would be nice too.
Tommy missed the stud on that screw.
Tommy is a national treasure.
God I can't take the fake scripted commentary...So cheesey! These look great Tommy!! Like it was custom built for the room.... Yikes