the bad thing about a pointed plame is thwt it will create a very concentrated hotspot on your pan. if you use like a thin backpacking cooking set, where the pots are about 1/16th or so thick, youll burn the shit out of your food. the rest of the stuff are bonus's. i think if i were to use the perlite, i would shape the perlite like a cone, where the center is pushed down, and raised up around the sides inside the can. i would love for you to make s video testing this idea with the perlite
hey hiram just happen to trip across this video and as a camper and a bit of prepper thank you very much for this video great information on here . keep up the good work and thank you.
Be careful when buying perlite from big box stores or hardware stores. It usually also contains fertilizers (like MIricleGro), which you probably don't want to be burning. Hydroponic stores carry the plain ol' perlite (NO additives) and is also A LOT cheaper there. Nice vid. Cheers!
Great videos just stumbled across your channel and I've been looking for alternatives for heating my camper I've been using the fiberglass after using toilet paper. Never thought about pearlite
Good, Video! If you put some stainless screen inside of the can on top of the perlite it could help keep the perlite in if the can tipped over. Later, FW.
thanks for the vid, informative. Just a thought, have you ever used vermiculite in a stove, I know it is porous and will hold water. I wonder if it would change the burn rate, or maybe have more fuel capacity?
Hey thats pretty cool. I was actually learning all this stuff for concrete design mix for fire. I needed a decent demonstration that helped me get my head around what happens with the addition of pearlite. So thanks very much. Ive give you vid a like. Chris. :))
Mull item list. Wool vs. carbon felt. Find some discounted wool yarn? Squeeze, stuff it into an alcohol stove, cut a wire mesh dome cap to go over it? "Wool is classified as a flame-resistant fabric. The textile is flammable, but it has to reach at least 1,058 degrees Fahrenheit, to ignite. The material has high water and nitrogen contents in its cells which means if it did ever catch on fire, once removed from the source of the heat, it would self-extinguish the flame.” Perlite can suck up four times its weight in water, vermiculite up to sixteen times its weight. Vermiculite sourced from one place In the US used to have asbestos in it, I'm not sure if for plants, it's still being sold. Old Vermiculite insulation had it in it. Pill bottle disc, made of vermiculite.... The Vermiculite pill bottle disc each hold 1 ounce of fuel, you use two, they work best with the pot, pan sitting on the disc. Either 2 stacked, or 2 side by side. You want to rest the pot, cup on the stones. You eliminate the top surface as a burn surface because of the pot on it, the fuel burning from sides, it's more like your gas stove in the house. It appears to provide more of a blue flame, then having the pot located over the stones, top burning.
It is so....the perlite is very important......I have got a DIY alcohol stove and off course with something similar as perllite....saludos de BILLIG CAMPER desde Alemania.
Perlite has a high surface volume. Since the perlite has a bunch of tiny holes in it the alcohol has a larger surface area to cling to. That's why it's good for soil, it will trap water for plants.
What is the expected burn time for one of the cans with the same amount of alcohol, but with the Perlite added? In other words, how long can you use such a can for lighting or such?
Can you do a time and boil test please? Perlite is used in concrete as an insulator. Can the perlite container hold more alcohol than what you poured into it thus making it burn longer? Or was it saturated? I wonder what happens if you put perlite into the fill part of a Trangia.
You might remember the old "Soupy Sales" kid show from the fifties. I grew up watching him on TV. He had two so-called "dogs" on the show (named White Fang and Black Tooth) which were nothing more than two long hairy arms of guys on the set clawing the air as they talked to Soupy in grunt and growls. Here's why I bring this up: we never see your face. All we see are your two hands clawing the air, and so help me . . . all I can think of are those two arm puppets talking to Soupy. It brings back a lots of fond memories from my childhood watching your informative demonstrations. Thanks :-)
Hey zeolite does pretty much the same thing so what I'm wondering is this could I use Pearl Light to produce regular clean O2 like if I were to replace the molecular sieves in my concentrator with the Pearl Light That should work the same I would assume or am I wrong I would love to get your input great video
What a great idea! The directed flame with the perlite is less wasteful and heats food and water faster. Would sand work as well? Have lots of that, but no perlite yet.
Hello, I was wondering... When the alcohol burns out does the perlite start burning or does it just go out and remain the white color? Thank you ;-) Great video as usual...
No. The perlite has already been exposed to temperatures ranging from 1,560 to 1,650 °F (850-900 °C), and your little stove isn't going to get near even near that. A steel can will probably melt before there's any change to the perlite. It's finished. When the alcohol burns out, just refile it with alcohol, indefinitely.
Could you use Vermiculite? From its composition it seems to be able to withstand 1300c (2370f) and hold 3 to 4 times its volume with liquid! and is lighter than perlite. I have not tried Vermiculite as I don't know if it produces any gases, but they seem to use it in pizza ovens and as bricks in some wood burners... anyone tried it?
Vermiculite and Perlite are both made by grinding rocks into dust and heating the dust until it pops like pop corn. While they are different minerals, the biggest difference is basically that Perlite is heated by volcanoes and Vermiculite is heated in furnaces until it pops like pop corn. Vermiculite is used in fireproofing and refractory insulation so I see no concerns with replacing Perlite with Vermiculite.
I looked perlite up on Wikipedia and I saw that you can get very fine or coarse so I was just wondering what is better to use, coarse or fine grind perlite. thanks
In case anyone wanted these types of tins you can get(to my eyes, at least) the exact same thing from Specialty Bottle. I'm in no way affiliated with them, but I bought a few of them from there a while ago, and oddly enough saw this video. There's probably much cheaper ways to get them, but this is the only one I'm aware of. Hopefully this helps someone, if not then at least I have my pudding. www.specialtybottle.com/tincontainersmi.aspx
Why don't you try it and let us know? I've heard that one of the reasonst that Rockwool (aka Mineral Wool) is good for home insulation is because water just rolls of the surface and isn't absorbed. If it does that with alcohol, I can't see it being very useful for the application.
OK, I tried it, and the Rockwool did burn, It was old and used so it could have been nutrient (plant fertilizer) that was burning. There are so many easy ways to make a stove out in the field, and so many litterbugs that it would be difficult not to have a stove as long as you have fuel. Did you ever notice that the intermission music for the Olympics is from the old T,V, show "Brisco County, JR".
I am not sure that the can with the perlite was burning at a lower temperature. In metal casting many hobbiests use perlite as an insulation and it holds the heat in from escaping sort of like insulation as in a house so it would make sense that the outside of the can was a cooler temperature. So basically in a nutshell perlite acts as a high heat insulator. Good video by the way good luck!
I agree. Also, Mr. Cook seemed to be aiming at the BOTTOM of the cans, which I didn't understand. You'll notice that the flame from the perlite was a steady blue, and the other can showed yellow, which can be a sign of incomplete combustion. A better test might have been boiling a measured amount of water over each can, and noting which one boiled first.
My soil comes with perlite and I need to destroy eggs of mites in my soil so I searched that people sterilize potting mix, potting soil in oven to rid of certain pests.
But, no I have never tried it before. I'm watching your video to decide should I place my garden soil in a 180 degree oven with peat moss and coconut coir.
Why would it be longer? Nothing has changed -- it's just the alcohol burning. If there is a one-eighth cup of alcohol in each can, it should burn for the same length of time.
You Can also use toilet paper in the bottom of you can you fill it up for for your alcohol in it and burn when you want to put it out put the lid on it works just as good maybe not as good as per late butWorks better than fibreglass insulation or any of that other shit
Perlite also serves as a very good heat insulator, used to fill the area between cans in a home-made rocket stove. Thanks Hiram!
Keep up the good work brother! It is an awesome resource to have someone like you testing and showing the result!
the bad thing about a pointed plame is thwt it will create a very concentrated hotspot on your pan. if you use like a thin backpacking cooking set, where the pots are about 1/16th or so thick, youll burn the shit out of your food. the rest of the stuff are bonus's. i think if i were to use the perlite, i would shape the perlite like a cone, where the center is pushed down, and raised up around the sides inside the can. i would love for you to make s video testing this idea with the perlite
hey hiram just happen to trip across this video and as a camper and a bit of prepper thank you very much for this video great information on here . keep up the good work and thank you.
Thanks Hiram, I didn't know about perlite.
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Great tip on getting the flame higher in the can!
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Thank you again for doing the research !Always great advice.😃
That's pretty cool...I just learned how to solve a problem I have had with my stoves for 2 years!!! thanks! !!
Excellent presentation ! 👍👍👍
I learn something from you with each video.
This is a great video! Thank you for sharing.
Good simple video. Thanks for sharing!
Be careful when buying perlite from big box stores or hardware stores. It usually also contains fertilizers (like MIricleGro), which you probably don't want to be burning. Hydroponic stores carry the plain ol' perlite (NO additives) and is also A LOT cheaper there. Nice vid. Cheers!
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Ith Bombgard Good to know. Thanks
Thanks for the tip. Ive used perlite in other stove projects. It’s light weight and also acts as an insulator
Many R stoves are constructed with bricks or cement blocks right off the shelf so it's not a necessity to use perlite.
Thanks Hiram. Great informative video. Now that I've seen the video I guess it was just common sense. Thanks again. Atb. Robert
Your question was not stupid and now we all gain some knowledge ! I too thought it was only for the wicking effect .
thanks very much for this video greetings from the UK
Great videos just stumbled across your channel and I've been looking for alternatives for heating my camper I've been using the fiberglass after using toilet paper. Never thought about pearlite
Good info. I'm gonna to try perlite in my penny soda can stove.
Good job man is a good for people whom ignore many things. Grasias dude!!
We need Hiram back asap
Hope you are well Brother
Great advice, but it left me wondering:
Is there a difference in burn time with identical amounts of alcohol?
Great words - I bought all of them they had in the store...
Good, Video!
If you put some stainless screen inside of the can on top of the perlite it could help keep the perlite in if the can tipped over.
Later, FW.
thanks for the vid, informative. Just a thought, have you ever used vermiculite in a stove, I know it is porous and will hold water. I wonder if it would change the burn rate, or maybe have more fuel capacity?
Hey thats pretty cool.
I was actually learning all this stuff for concrete design mix for fire.
I needed a decent demonstration that helped me get my head around what happens with the addition of pearlite.
So thanks very much. Ive give you vid a like.
Chris. :))
would you be able to put perlite into the center of trangia type stove to help slow evaporation and extend burn time?
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Wow that was great. Thanks for sharing
Great video. Question: scars on hand from burns or from psoriasis/eczema? Just wondering as I see it from to time in your videos.
Please do a side by side comparison of one with alcohol and one with lamp oil. The perlite is a great tip. Thanks.
Nice job.
Mull item list.
Wool vs. carbon felt.
Find some discounted wool yarn?
Squeeze, stuff it into an alcohol stove, cut a wire mesh dome cap to go over it?
"Wool is classified as a flame-resistant fabric. The textile is flammable, but it has to reach at least 1,058 degrees Fahrenheit, to ignite. The material has high water and nitrogen contents in its cells which means if it did ever catch on fire, once removed from the source of the heat, it would self-extinguish the flame.”
Perlite can suck up four times its weight in water, vermiculite up to sixteen times its weight.
Vermiculite sourced from one place In the US used to have asbestos in it, I'm not sure if for plants, it's still being sold.
Old Vermiculite insulation had it in it.
Pill bottle disc, made of vermiculite....
The Vermiculite pill bottle disc each hold 1 ounce of fuel, you use two, they work best with the pot, pan sitting on the disc.
Either 2 stacked, or 2 side by side.
You want to rest the pot, cup on the stones.
You eliminate the top surface as a burn surface because of the pot on it, the fuel burning from sides, it's more like your gas stove in the house.
It appears to provide more of a blue flame, then having the pot located over the stones, top burning.
Very help thanks.
It is so....the perlite is very important......I have got a DIY alcohol stove and off course with something similar as perllite....saludos de BILLIG CAMPER desde Alemania.
Perlite has a high surface volume. Since the perlite has a bunch of tiny holes in it the alcohol has a larger surface area to cling to. That's why it's good for soil, it will trap water for plants.
We all be missing your videos......Ron
Hi, one question: is perlite the same stuff as silica gel, used to absorb moisture from several boxed items?
Thanks.
Very nice thanks much!
Can you do firelogs project
I really like the way you explain things
Excellent. Thank you. 🍺
thanks for the info
What is the expected burn time for one of the cans with the same amount of alcohol, but with the Perlite added? In other words, how long can you use such a can for lighting or such?
thanks cause I want to make some of these.
Can you do a time and boil test please?
Perlite is used in concrete as an insulator.
Can the perlite container hold more alcohol than what you poured into it thus making it burn longer?
Or was it saturated?
I wonder what happens if you put perlite into the fill part of a Trangia.
I like the perlite for simmering rather than a superfast hot burn
Hello! Can horticultural grade perlite be used for cooking?
Thanks in advance!
Thank you. Does it work with kerosene, too?
So Pearlite in used Sterno Containers is a good idea ?
Looking for ideas, and this seems like a good one.
You can buy purlite in big bags as well
Informative. Thanks. Do you think diatomaceous earth would work similarly?
U stole my thought, im gonna try it.
Does the perlite or carbon fiber help the gelled fuel last longer
Thanks
You might remember the old "Soupy Sales" kid show from the fifties. I grew up watching him on TV. He had two so-called "dogs" on the show (named White Fang and Black Tooth) which were nothing more than two long hairy arms of guys on the set clawing the air as they talked to Soupy in grunt and growls. Here's why I bring this up: we never see your face. All we see are your two hands clawing the air, and so help me . . . all I can think of are those two arm puppets talking to Soupy. It brings back a lots of fond memories from my childhood watching your informative demonstrations. Thanks :-)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Had a hard time finishing the video! Laughing too hard!
I have a gel fire place can I use it in there
Can you check out times for the RUCAS. ALCOHOL STOVE COMPARED TO THE PATHFINDER STAINLESS STEEL STOVE?
Besides using Perla and tin cans have you made a table top stove with perlite
How long does the stove burn or what is the ratio of burn time based on the amount of alcohol used
Which is better, carbon felt or 6) Perlite, Carbon Felt, or Bio Ethanol Ceramic Wool Wick Sponge?
So,would your burner be something like a Swedish M71 military burner,they look about the same size.
Hey zeolite does pretty much the same thing so what I'm wondering is this could I use Pearl Light to produce regular clean O2 like if I were to replace the molecular sieves in my concentrator with the Pearl Light That should work the same I would assume or am I wrong I would love to get your input great video
Absolutely
What a great idea! The directed flame with the perlite is less wasteful and heats food and water faster. Would sand work as well? Have lots of that, but no perlite yet.
Yes sand does work. I did a video here I dug some sand out of a creek bank.
Does one burn longer than the other? Thanks
What is ratio alcohol to perlite!!! Ty!!!!
This is exactly what I wondered to…
Glad I was able to help
How long will it burn
Hello, I was wondering... When the alcohol burns out does the perlite start burning or does it just go out and remain the white color? Thank you ;-) Great video as usual...
No. The perlite has already been exposed to temperatures ranging from 1,560 to 1,650 °F (850-900 °C), and your little stove isn't going to get near even near that. A steel can will probably melt before there's any change to the perlite. It's finished. When the alcohol burns out, just refile it with alcohol, indefinitely.
Thank so much ;-)
Another issue is that the perlite occupies space that fuel would otherwise occupy thus shortening the burn time.
it adds more surface area for the alcohol to burn on
And also some things to be said about simplicity...
Could you use Vermiculite? From its composition it seems to be able to withstand 1300c (2370f) and hold 3 to 4 times its volume with liquid! and is lighter than perlite. I have not tried Vermiculite as I don't know if it produces any gases, but they seem to use it in pizza ovens and as bricks in some wood burners... anyone tried it?
Vermiculite and Perlite are both made by grinding rocks into dust and heating the dust until it pops like pop corn. While they are different minerals, the biggest difference is basically that Perlite is heated by volcanoes and Vermiculite is heated in furnaces until it pops like pop corn.
Vermiculite is used in fireproofing and refractory insulation so I see no concerns with replacing Perlite with Vermiculite.
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Has anyone tried "Roxul" spun rock insulation?
sir how i get perlite at home
How much do you put in
Could fire place rope seal be used for wick?
Sam Barton I bet it could. That stuff doesn’t burn and would certainly wick fuel.
How do you make bio ethonol alchohol fuel? Can you use moonshine from corn/other?
People use Everclear 190/95% for stoves.
@@pearlllllgarcia$ expensive $ i'd rather drink it.
I looked perlite up on Wikipedia and I saw that you can get very fine or coarse so I was just wondering what is better to use, coarse or fine grind perlite. thanks
Thomas V It depends on what you need it for: gardening, stove making, experiment etc. what is the reason to want perlite?
Coarse
@@accountantintraining4752 we R talking stove's here
Would Perlite work as a wick for a Fancy Feest stove?
Any kind of small can will do: any cat food or tuna can, a cut-down aluminum beer can, a soup can, etc.
Rest in peace hiram unless I'm wrong but I don't think I am sadly
I've seen a diaper interior ripped into small pieces and alcohol.. I never tried it
Could you just stuff a rag in the can to act as a wick?
Can perlite be replaced by other sand?
Sand could probably work, but perlite is superior because it is extremely lightweight. It feels, weight-wise, like Styrofoam.
@@griffinsmithish i tryed sand, it works but heavy, stick with perlite
Can you use vermiculite instead?
Another poster said yes above.
In case anyone wanted these types of tins you can get(to my eyes, at least) the exact same thing from Specialty Bottle.
I'm in no way affiliated with them, but I bought a few of them from there a while ago, and oddly enough saw this video. There's probably much cheaper ways to get them, but this is the only one I'm aware of.
Hopefully this helps someone, if not then at least I have my pudding.
www.specialtybottle.com/tincontainersmi.aspx
I used de can's that rifle pellets come in, with pearlite & ss screen 2 hold pearlite in, works prett darn good 2
have you ever tried Rockwool?
Why don't you try it and let us know? I've heard that one of the reasonst that Rockwool (aka Mineral Wool) is good for home insulation is because water just rolls of the surface and isn't absorbed. If it does that with alcohol, I can't see it being very useful for the application.
OK, I tried it, and the Rockwool did burn, It was old and used so it could have been nutrient (plant fertilizer) that was burning.
There are so many easy ways to make a stove out in the field, and so many litterbugs that it would be difficult not to have a stove as long as you have fuel.
Did you ever notice that the intermission music for the Olympics is from the old T,V, show "Brisco County, JR".
Hi Hiram, I have another question for you. Does the Perlite put off any toxic fumes or smoke?
God bless you Hiram, real good 💕 🌿
No, it doesn't. It is inert.
Thank you so much, I love you Hiram. God bless you so big!✝️🥀🐎 Jesus is gathering the angels for battle. Be ready. Here's a hug for ya 🤗
How much alcohol do you use per meal.
25ml
I normally drink 1 or 2 16oz cans with my meal.😃. 🍺 .
I am not sure that the can with the perlite was burning at a lower temperature. In metal casting many hobbiests use perlite as an insulation and it holds the heat in from escaping sort of like insulation as in a house so it would make sense that the outside of the can was a cooler temperature. So basically in a nutshell perlite acts as a high heat insulator. Good video by the way good luck!
I agree. Also, Mr. Cook seemed to be aiming at the BOTTOM of the cans, which I didn't understand. You'll notice that the flame from the perlite was a steady blue, and the other can showed yellow, which can be a sign of incomplete combustion. A better test might have been boiling a measured amount of water over each can, and noting which one boiled first.
@@Frantic618 i think he just was testing to see if the can got really hot, which could burn the surface it's resting on.
My soil comes with perlite and I need to destroy eggs of mites in my soil so I searched that people sterilize potting mix, potting soil in oven to rid of certain pests.
But, no I have never tried it before. I'm watching your video to decide should I place my garden soil in a 180 degree oven with peat moss and coconut coir.
What's wrong with just using regular sand
Sand is heavy. Perlite is very lightweight.
Good question @@BluegrassBushcraft thanks guys
Great video,
What type of alcohol?
Vy Chi Denatured alcohol.
great video :) would you believe.. in the UK it's known as Methylated Spirits... Lol
Campers recommend SUNNYSIDE CORPORATION 1-Quart Denatured Alcohol Solvent as one of the most clean burning brands.
So are the burn times the same between the perlite and the alcohol tins? Was thinking the perlite tins should have a longer burn time.
Why would it be longer? Nothing has changed -- it's just the alcohol burning. If there is a one-eighth cup of alcohol in each can, it should burn for the same length of time.
Another channel timed and compared. Perlite seemed to help stove burn alcohol hotter and longer!
am i the only one who noticed what appears to be burn scars all over this gentleman's hand?
You Can also use toilet paper in the bottom of you can you fill it up for for your alcohol in it and burn when you want to put it out put the lid on it works just as good maybe not as good as per late butWorks better than fibreglass insulation or any of that other shit
Thanks for the tip, I had to hit the like to get you off the 666 number of likes!
He seems to have a red stain on his right hand. Did he burn himself?
Am I the only one that saw Jesus' face in the perlite burner?
frankthetank481 -.-