The Kelly Converstaions: Jim DeRogatis with Tricia Bobeda and Andrew Gill
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Ahead of R. Kelly headlining Pitchfork Music Festival, WBEZ's Jim DeRogatis conducts a series of conversations with smart, passionate cultural critics.
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Jim DeRogatis: Through nearly a quarter of a century as a professional music journalist and critic, I have spent more time listening to, thinking about, and wrestling with the music of R. Kelly than with any other artist-and not only because he is the most important voice in R&B of his generation and one of the most successful artists Chicago ever has produced.
My role in Kelly's story is well-known: After a series of investigative reports about what the Chicago Sun-Times called Kelly's pattern of abusing his wealth and fame to pursue illegal sexual relationships with underage women, an anonymous sources left a nearly 30-minute videotape in my mailbox that resulted in Kelly being indicted on charges of making child pornography.
Despite my familiarity with the artist and his music, and contrary to what some might think, I am left with more questions than answers, the biggest of which resonate beyond the specifics of this musician and his work, striking at the very nature of the relationship between art and admirer:
When an artist has been accused in their personal life of crimes that caused serious harm to others, is it possible to separate the artist and those acts from the art? And should we?
What is the responsibility of the listener, the viewer, the fan?
Most people would scoff at the notion of holding an artist up to some moral standard before consuming the art.
On the other hand, is the person who collects the jailhouse art of John Wayne Gacy undeserving of scorn, or is he somehow complicit in the crimes of that creator?
In other words: What if the crimes are part of the appeal of the art?
Finally, and most pressingly, what does it say when an artist who's been accused of hurting numerous young women is celebrated by IFC, the Independent Film Channel, and music festivals such as Coachella, Bonnaroo, and Pitchfork?
Over the last eight years, the Pitchfork Music Festival has been recognized worldwide as one of the best-curated annual showcases of cutting-edge music, as well as an undeniable celebration of Chicago's independent music scene. Kelly will close the eighth festival a week from Sunday, on July 21, performing on the main stage in Union Park a mile or two away from where some of his alleged victims lived.
Will this fact cross the minds of music lovers during Kelly's performance? And again: Should it?
As noted earlier, I don't have the answers to these questions. But I know that they need to be addressed.
To that end, and with the help of my WBEZ colleagues Andrew Gill, Tricia Bobeda, Alyssa Edes and Tim Akimoff, I set out to conduct a series of interviews with passionate thinkers about music and culture representing a variety of viewpoints, personal and professional.
After all of these chats, Tricia Bobeda and Andrew Gill still had questions of their own about my role in the Kelly story, so I submitted to the same sort of video interview with them.
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Did he call himself as a expert on R.Kelly .... yea he is obsessed
Thanks for sharing your story Jim. I've heard it numerous times in the many years I've followed your work and listened to Sound Opinions, but this was the first time I felt moved by how covering that story affected your life and your soul. Looking forward to the rest of the interviews.
Jim tell the world which one of them victims you're sleeping with..Just wait its all gon come out..Go get a real job and stop stalking R Kelly..25 years later and he's still telling one side of the story..!
Go find something eles to do. Stop making a living off R. Kelly. You've been a leech for years. Let go. This is clearly a plot to destroy the man.
This is ALL BS 🗣️🆓FREE R.KELLY💪🏿
Pled the 5th Jim wouldn't get on the witness stand why isn't the marriage on docket?
@rayjohnson7886 derogatis is a fraud and a liar he was involved with Barry Henderson they started the rumors with Demetrius Smith but he never say how Barry steal millions from r kelly and Demetrius too had is credit carte after he fired them started the lies and a big plot a scheme of extortion
And here we are 9 years later......
Thank you.
It didn't seem to hurt his wallet. He's worth approx $150m. He should be in jail still,
Update: he is now worth $0
who killed kenneka jenkins
CJ Automotive HandWashandDetail, LLC kenneka killed kenneka
One criminal at at a time.
(allegedly)
Angela Siegfried ain’t no criminal in the kenneka case lol
@@IMSiegfried Exactly
this guy Jim will be sued or be going to jail n the near future.
Jim stop following rkelly around you are obsessed with rkelly his music and producing is on your nerves you sent women behind him to take him down jim you dont knoiw what to do with yourself rkelly is on your mind 20 yrs and plus jealousy is not going to get you anywhere after all these years you are bringing out a book aint no body buying that shit all what you have written we already know and a bunch of lies you put in it your career went down the drain your wife left you so you aint got nothing left but to semd this man to jail for his life cant handle rkelly God's son
Evidence is not facts n sadly it was all lies rumors your a hater!!
Caretta Johnson Trash Journalism.
It's been seven years n these this man been decision his trruth so it' was never about money it was about the victims..the city of Chicago fail these girls shame on them
Thank you and Agreed.
Thanks for your comment. All of the conversations are online right now- check out the playlist "The Kelly Conversations" on the WBEZ UA-cam channel.
WBEZ, Thank you for this! Five years later and it still matters a lot! I look forward to watching reading everything else you have on this topic and R. Kelly.
@@litobelew1549 If you can't understand that this isn't about race I don't know what else to tell you. He's been covering R.J. Kelly's music for over 12 years because it's his job to do so. How would tearing him down benefit him. Remember, he is a journalist first and a music critic second. That mean he has to state facts and in all that time nobody has ever said that what he wrote is not accurate, meaning he has never had to retract anything he ever said about him. You can't tell me that doesn't count for a lot!
WBEZ, why does this link to the conversation playlist no longer work ? www.wbez.org/kellyconvo
Thanks in advance.
@@IMSiegfried it's not his job to be harassing people.He has been harassing R Kelly for years and spreading lies.He doesn't like RK for some reason which is fine.But he needs to stop teling lies.We all know how these so called journalist will lie to sell a story.There no real journalist anymore.And he should've went to jail for watching that tape,since he claim the girl was underage.
@Bella Dior I fuck these black girls team rkelly
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas Dahling I LOVE IT ;-)
All you have been doing is doing your job
Jim you just have jelousy for R.kelly , and very obsessed with him. You alledgely know more than you saying, and R.kelly never had sex with Aaliyah or was married to her either get you lies straight , you just want to bring a handsome talented man down. You need to sit down. Why are you looking at pron anyway?? What did your wife say??
How my victims thanked you, did you say 48
Hhhhhmm he is obess 100% with r Kelly
You three Go Straight 2 hell and only stop for a shorter Route....
This dude look suspect himself. Why is he following and stalking black men? Got to be some sort of pervert. He probably is a lover men and don't like men hip hop love about women. He would rather for the male artist wear a wedding dress. Just like they tried to make Dave Chappell put on dress. They love people like Tyler Perry black men in dress. These people have that "Greek" gentile culture.
Really? This man has been covering R. Kelly for over 12 years because he's a music critic. So when a white person critiques a black man's music because it's his passion and his *job* to do so, suddenly he's a stalker? Or are you saying, white people don't like or can't appreciate a black man's musical talent? I can tell you from my being a white person who loves music, I know that R. Kelly is incredibly talented. But because I'm white my opinion isn't valid?
Like he said, he's a journalist first and a music critic second but they are both his passions and to act like R. Kelly somehow changes that is just well, it doesn't make sense. You can't make stuff up and act like it's the truth. Or you can but nobody will believe you. You've got to have sources such as what a journalist provides. Remember, he saw the tape because it was sent to him. What's he supposed to do when this is his career? Look the other way? If he had done that then you would have had something to complain about.
Hotep Sun a Ra ,STOP GETTIN ON ANGELA SIEGFRIED...HER NEXT STORY WIIL BE ON OLE HARVEY WINESTIEN WHO SHE SHARES WHITE/JEWISH HERITADGE WITH... right Ms. Siegfried...your already working on it right, ms. Siegfried...cause ur against guys like Wienstein....yes !