Shooting the Paddle Butt Wheellock Carbine from Rifle Shoppe Castings
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The invention of the wheellock in Europe can be placed at about 1500. There is a vocal group of scholars who believe Leonardo da Vinci was the inventor. Drawings made by Leonardo of a wheellock mechanism date (depending on the authority) from either the mid-1490s or the first decade of the 16th century. However, a drawing from a book of German inventions (dated 1505) and a 1507 reference to the purchase of a wheellock in Austria may indicate the inventor was an unknown German mechanic instead.
In 1517 and 1518, the first gun control laws banning the wheellock were proclaimed by the Emperor Maximilian I, initially in Austria and later throughout the Holy Roman Empire. Several Italian states followed suit in the 1520s and 1530s, another argument used by the pro-German camp.
As Lisa Jardine relates in her account of the assassination of William the Silent of the Netherlands, in 1584, the small size, ease of concealment and user-friendly loading aspect of the wheellock, compared to larger and more cumbersome hand-held weapons, meant that it was used for the killing of public figures, such as Francis, Duke of Guise and William himself. Jardine also argues that a stray wheellock pistol shot may have been responsible for the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre of French Huguenots in 1572
Wheellock pistols were in common use during the Thirty Years' War (1618-1648) on both sides for cavalry and officers. Around 1650 the flintlock began to replace the wheellock as it was cheaper and easier to use than the wheellock.
Wheel-lock firearms were never mass-produced for military purposes, but the best preserved armoury collection at the Landeszeughaus in Graz, Austria, contains over 3,000 examples, many of which were produced in small batches for military units.
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They probably gave you the strike because they thought you were inciting a 30-Years' War...😎 Just remember, you always catch the most flack when you're directly over the target, compliance is consent, and appeasement is never the appropriate policy.
They probably thought I was a Bohemian about to throw somebody out of a window for the fourth time.
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Hi, nice work. Just a note: "and a 1507 reference to the purchase of a wheellock in Austria" . That account is not from Austria, but Hungary. "„Item ivit quidam Gaspar Bohemus servitor castri ad Sanctum Farkas ad Halemaniam pro devotione, cui feci dare pro suis servitiis fl. quattuor cum medio et iterum alios quattuor, ut emeret pro reverendissimo domino meo unam pissidem de illis, que incenduntur cum lapide et emit et misi reverendissime dominationi sue Ferrariam per Petrum Lardum castellanum Agriensem etc., in toto faciunt fl. octo cum medio.” Source: Estei Hippolit püspök egri számadáskönyvei 1500-1508. (A Heves Megyei Levéltár forráskiadványai 4.) Eger, 1992. p259.
Them ear buds look like round ball in your ears 😂😂😂 nice job ! 🤠
Yep, I have 60 caliber ears. Evidently they work perfectly lol
Roman Legionnaires prized pyrite to use with their steels in place of flint for starting fires. When you use flint, the spark is made by shaving bits off of the steel, but using pyrite, the shavings that make sparks are bits of pyrite, which burn a bit hotter and longer to catch the tinder.
Yep that would be my experience with them. I was talking to Jesse over at the rifle shop and he has a few that have flints in them and whenever I asked him about it he said that sometimes people, especially here in North America were acquiring iron. Pyrite was a lot harder in the 17th century. Would use flints in their wheel locks And then switch out to something like a snaphaunce after the wheel wore out.
Pyrite was also valuable by the Spanish and Portuguese as a source of sulfur. Pyrite was put into a clay pot and sealed so airtight. A pipe went to other sealed pots and then a pipe went into a fire. The first pot filled with pyrite was then cooked in a fire that had been built around it. This separated the elemental sulfur from the iron via distillation. The iron left behind was why the Spanish and Portuguese used iron shot. The english and French used galena ore which is sulfur and lead bearing which is why they used lead shot.
Also interesting fact cause paper was so expensive. The thin inner membrane of animal skins which is nowadays scraped off during leather making as well as animal intestine was used to improve upon paper which would be useless when wet. They were often sealed with a mixture of natural resin and wax to make them "water proof".
I have a big chunk of pyrite in my traditional fire kit, I’ve had a spark mis the char but hit my tow and start it
I'd be super proud to have made that little gem.
I was,surprised that it was so balanced. I would have thought that it would be hard on your cheek without a traditional length and shape. Can't wait until the video drops on the history. You guys do top notch work.
Yes, it is actually pretty heavy but because all the weight is in the rear of the gun it feels extremely light. But because there is weight in the rear of the gun The recoil is negligible so therefore it's really comfortable to shoot
Awesome thanks for sharing. Looks quite handy
Yep, she's a handy little piece. Well balanced and a Joy to shoot
You FINALLY GOT IT WORKING!!!! elegant looking piece. and your own private touch too. My Compliment Ethan! -Grey Pilgrim
Thanks Gray Pilgrim. I'm pretty excited about it now I've just got two more to build one a little bit smaller and one much much bigger lol
I have watched you make this carbine! You Ethan have made this carbine in to a work of art! Excellent shooting! I would like to have one! I have been watching 11 11 Bang Bang for almost 3 year's now. David Back from Menifee co KY.
A great work of art sir!👍🏻
Thank you
It's a fascinating firearm. Love to handle one someday.
Freaking AWESOME Ethan!!
Thanks. Stay tuned. I have a feeling you're going to be seeing more wheel locks and pre flint lock style firearms on the channel in the coming year
Two things. One I LOVE the wood on that piece , I am interested in the details of how you finished it. Two, I admit to missing some of the now removed "evolution" segments and would LOVE a function walk through in one of your live sessions I find wheel lock details very difficult to come by and a nice discussion of the intricacies of the innards would be awesome.
Thanks, If you want a detailed series on how to evolve a wheel lock and it is actually where I got a lot of my information for this build. Go check out homemade history he's actually here in the comments. He has a whole very long series on a absolutely gorgeous elaborately carved puffer wheel lock pistol that he built 100% from scratch
As for the first question, as in how I finished the wood, this is Black Walnut from just south of me down in Oklahoma and I stained it with aqua Fortis. One time allowed the aqua Fortis to dry for 30 minutes which turned the wood completely black and then I went and took a propane torch and heated it up slowly until the wood blushed turning a very dark red by then, added several coats of tung oil and then use some Alfie shine wood wax
@Real11BangBang Interesting, I have never considered "strong water" on walnut ....I have used it o. Maple and on a Traditions kit ( probably beech or some south American light wood) I think it turned out fantastic... not only good grain. UT it gives it an honest "Old" feel. Looks very simmilar to my inherited working guns ( mid 50's winchesters etc)
Yes the muzzleloading forum told me not to use it on Walnut because it would make the wood look like I painted it black. However, that was evidently not the case LOL. Also, this is the end result of homemade histories Wheelock that he built and has a series on how to do it from scratch
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You used the original machine shop tools with the exception of the drill press fantastic job
Yep, and that's the thing I try to tell people who get discouraged from reading the muzzleloading forum. Talking about building locks from castings is that you don't need fancy equipment. As long as you pay attention to detail, you can do it with a hand drill I'm convinced. I'm just not that good and the reason I say it could be done with a han drill is because that is how it would have been done originally.
I saw one guy who when confronted about the fact that CNC machines and lathes were not used. Historically, his excuse was that and I quote "locks from the original time. That they were made were never any good."
My sarcastic thought response is usually "yes, because putting food on the table fighting off brigand's or winning Wars was not very important. Evidently so much so that it wasn't important that people had reliable firearms." 😂
Never heard of let alone seen a wheel lock until you started this project. Interesting and good job buddy.
Thanks A.R if you're ever in this neck of the woods you're going to have to stop by and give it a shot
the progression of the musket is as such. Match Lock, Wheel Lock. Flintlock, Percussion Lock.
Don't forget the snaphaunce and snaplock 😊@@longrider42
@@Real11BangBang But weren't those just early versions of Flintlocks? I do tend to forget about those two systems.
@longrider42 No, they are very different
This is amazing. You did an awesome job it looks beautiful. Thank you for sharing!!
Thanks for watching. And Stay tuned More weird and wacky lock mechanisms coming in the future
You should try patching your round ball. I know even with a smooth bore your accuracy will increase. Normally you'd use 2F grain powder for the main charge, and 3 or 4F powder for the priming pan. And yes I also shoot muzzle loaders. But I normally shoot a Percussion Caplock rifle. But I've shot enough Flintlock rifles and muskets, so that I've learned a few things. But you did a great job building that carbine. Just keep her clean :)
FUCK YEA BRO!!! So glad to see this Badboy run!!!
Looking forward seeing more project results from you.
Stay tuned. It's 2:00 in the morning and I am working on another pre Flint lock firing mechanism
Well done, Ethan! Your enthusiasm for this build and the humble pride of shooting it, is evident throughout this video. Enjoy every puff of smoke you make wih it! 👍👍
Good morning from Syracuse NY brother and everyone else thank you for sharing this video and I loved the slow motion
Good morning!
Welp im jelous of it. Really beautiful looking carbine you have there. Any luck on evolveing the pistol you have?
Yes, My final order of parts that I need for are in the mail
Great looking wheel lock musket Ethan, now you can now become one of the kings musketeers, cheers.
Absolutely! It is now hanging on the wall next to the matchlock and soon to be a handgonne, Dutch wheellock and an English snaphaunce It will go in the oldest of the old section of the collection lol
I'd love to see a competition, flintlock vs wheellock. 20 shots out of each to see which misfires more and by how much.
That sounds like a whole lot of fun, but I might have to add one more variety of lock that I'm actually building right now
The Snaphaunce
Great work. I don't buy the evolution theory, but looks the the creator got it done👍👍
Thanks. Also, I'll have you know my evolutionary theory that happens in my basement is just as believable in my opinion as the one that Darwin put in the science books 😂😂😂
It’s a Lovely gun that looks like a great fun to shoot! And the bicycle chain is much like watches of the day. Where a tiny chain wrapped around a drum that kept tension from the spring. Amazing artistry and craftsmanship of the day! And a beautiful job by yourself as well! Kind Thanks and Many Blessings and Good Shootin I must add as well! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Would like to see a video on doglock muskets and fowlers, something like what the Scottish would have used during the Jacobite rebellion 1745
We will get there eventually. Right now I'm working on a snaphaunce Fowler which should be pretty awesome
Good job! Your pyrite looks to be holding up very well and the dog moves easily from what I can see. The dog on my original has such a strong spring that I think it would break a finger if moved carelessly-it really hampers the operation of that gun but it’s an older design and I have wonder if the 17th century ones were easier to move and easier on pyrites. Yours seems to bear this out if the design is authentic and I think that it is. By the way, I sent those photos of my gun using a file transfer service but they were never downloaded. Maybe the message ended up in a junk mail folder? Maybe I should order one of these kits.
Thanks. Yeah I actually increased the spring tension on the dog for increased reliability because at first it barely wanted to scrape the wheel
Also if you emailed me I probably just haven't seen it yet. I get so many emails everyday that I stop getting notified about them. I'll go back and see if I can find it
Ethan, I sent that transfer a couple of months ago using WeTransfer but it expired quite a while ago. I can send them again if you want but you have to download the zip file within a week or so-I don’t remember exactly how much time you have. It was a 467 MB file so a service like WeTransfer is the only way to send it.
Interesting rifle. I've always wondered how the wheel lock was an improvement over standard flintlock technology?
Tune in tomorrow and that there should be a video up on how the wheel lock works and why the flint lock was a better technological advancement
Enjoyed watching you shoot her yes the one you evolve will have a special place in your heart beautiful work Ethan
Very nice! It's fun to see a wheellock working well. Good job.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Oh that is a nice one 😃and it ignites pretty well for a wheellock.... The bone inlays are not far from originals cos I saw many originals with bone inlays or even covered completely in bone or antler and with a lot of scrimshaw.
The idea I like the most is to lubricate the ball with ear soot 🤣🤣 I have to try it with my homemade wheellock puffer too🤣🤣
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You may not know this sir, but you are actually mostly responsible for this gun in this video. Because whenever I started looking into building these about 3 years ago. I could not find any information on how to build one other than your series on the puffer wheel lock pistol you featured on your channel and while your wheellock pistol is a little bit different than something like this you still explained the basics to me and it was from there. I actually learned where everything went on this gun.
There's a lot of people asking about building information on wheel locks. I will be sure to point them to your channel as it was much more in-depth than what I did.
Thank you for all your hard work in filming the process. I know that that is a bit of a hassle when you're trying to work around a camera tripod lol
@@Real11BangBang Oh I didnt know that sir, thanks a lot for your kind words. But it was no hard work it was pure fun. There is nothing better than building something and see it work well at the end...... aaah there is something better but that will cause me a ban on youtube 🤣🤣
For my part I like this rather uncommon builds and share it. And if someone like you see it and is inspired to a build than it was a perfect success.
Thanks a lot for your reply.....☺
if i remember correctly at the times of wheellocks powder was not granulated
it was like a dust and probably better for priming
So It was what was known as serpentine powder. We have actually made it before. It just was not compressed or corned. What they did was is they wet it down and then rolled it into a ball allowed it to dry for several weeks and then used a cheese grater style tool to grate off kernels so yeah it was kind of granulated just not as potent as modern black powder
When crunching down the priming powder, would a brass implement be safer than an iron/steel one?
It doesn't really matter unless you are like really hammering enough to make spark
I’ve watched it twice… before the demons get their way again
I actually checked and my friendly neighborhood blue haired troll must not have woken up yet as I haven't gotten any dislikes so far LOL
Great video and absolutely gorgeous piece. I'll own or make one someday.
Shooting something like this goes from just shooting another gun to experiencing something. Not very many people get a chance to so I would say it is definitely worth it
Congratulations on your evolving. P.S. Where's your Lobster Tail Pot Helmet?
Thanks and fear not good sir The lobster tail is still around and will be making appearance this November along with some other armor and weapons
That thing is fantastic! Would you do an episode on it history?
We are going to do a huge episode on its history around thanksgiving
Hopefully there should be a Dutch wheel lock Fowler as well as an Early Germanic Wheelock pistol in that episode
14:28 Sooo.... I don't understand why they replace it with the flint lock.... This mechanism seems more better, especially after you explained it in detail.
mostly because it is a very complicated and very expensive system that works well when it works but has too many moving parts that are small and can break The flintlock is just more rugged and cheaper as well
@@Real11BangBang Yeah like I said, wheel lock is more better😎😜 Wheel lock go Brrrrr-pew
You build a beautiful gonne there Ethan.
Thanks. Yeah she is pretty nice
I dont believe there is such a thing as “too much fun”, but looks like you came close. Great job Ethan! You have skills brother!
Yes I definitely came close to too much fun. After the video was done I went to the place where I'm building my house with some of my other family and I let my mom and my sister and my brother shoot it and then after that I went and shot at some more. I ran over a hundred round balls and about a pound and a half a powder through it as well as two two pyrites
… am i allowed by YT to even watch this ? 😵💫
No you rebel 😆
Is there a tac stock upgrade for this?
I mean later on they did eventually make the butt plate flat and put a piece of iron on it I guess that's an upgrade 😆
Good video
Thanks
That is a pretty cool toy, thanks for showing us how they work.
Thanks, BPM just to think this all started with a little bit of black powder syndromeitis lol
@@Real11BangBang Yeah...that's a serious disease! LOL. We both know what cures it too!!!
Lol yes sir we do!
History is reborn!
Absolutely
I usually just watch and don't comment much, but that thing is cool. Nice job
Thanks Glad you enjoyed it
Thats a sweet shirt.
Thanks. It comes from Townsend
Well done, young fellow . A beautiful piece indeed. Love the idea of bone washers.
Smooth bore does gives you the best shooting options. Ball or shot. I bought a kibler 58 Smooth bore kit I have to put together. I wanted it to shoot grouse, moose and elk in Canada on my hunting trips.
Thank you!
Next time I get an opportunity to go hunting, I am definitely taking this piece and some of my homemade powder and home cast ball. That way I can say that I took a deer, with my homemade weaponry
So primitive I love it!
Thanks! Yeah she's pretty fun
I'm pretty educated about black powder and had never heard of one of these until i watched the series of you *ahem* "evolving" one. I was looking forward to seeing the rest. This was really cool, if i had done all of that work it would be my favorite also. Looks to be a good shooter!
Thank you! Yes, now that I've gotten hang of building these, it's getting a little easier. I'm already about halfway through my next lock bui..... Excuse me, I mean evolution
Great work! Just love your content.
For the algorithm!!!
Thank you so much
awesome job
Thanks!
That’s awesome man
Thanks
Nice Video. How did you finish the wood? What kind of wood is it.?
It is black walnut that I stained with aqua Fortis And heat to give it an aged look. Then it was treated with tung oil and alfy shine
@@Real11BangBang Very nice, just what I thought and wanted to know.
Did you have to construct this gun yourself? I have been looking for a wheelock for ages
So I got this as a kit from the rifle shop out of wellston Oklahoma but the parts were just castings. They had to be filed drilled tapped hardened heat treated to the proper specifications. But if you really want a Wheelock I would strongly suggest building one like this. It's hard work but definitely worth it and definitely doable with standard tools
That thing is so cool, I like that its a carbine, short and more compact, it did a hell of a good job evolving itself😜
Yes, it did. I was pretty impressed myself whenever it came out of the workshop on its own lol
Outstanding and excellent evolution of a fine project.
Thanks! And yes this one evolved quite well 😆
Ethan that thing is beautiful!!!! Great job!!
Thank you
Nice Wheellock, Ethan!!!
Thank you! 😊
Good job Ethan you did a great job
Thanks, snapper
Nice! Really nice! Love me wheellocks, very unique.
Yes they are very unique. Like I said, it goes from beyond just shooting to experiencing something different
Fabulous! I “evolved” a paddle butt 20g smoothbore using a pistol wheel lock kit from Rifle Shoppe .Looks very similar. And yes, despite inconsistent ignition I love it. I found that the kitset steel for the springs could not be hardened to the right degree even by professional heat treaters. So i bought a leaf spring from a Mitsubishi truck and started filing. I heated it in my fireplace to make it softer for hand filing.When satisfied with the shape i did my own heat treating. Got it red hot in the fireplace. Took it to the point where a magnet wouldn’t stick to it then quenched it with water then heated it again ,to a known lesser temperature by putting it in melted lead then letting it air cool. Worked fine. I have also used the smoke point of canola cooking oil to indicate a lesser temperature. (400 degrees is think)Works way better now. I find that brushing clean the pyrite ,wheel and pan after every shot helps. Also, don’t use one big pyrite crystal.They look right but are too hard. Use a cluster of small ones or the crumblier stuff. I also feel it might be better to not have a leather patch to hold the pyrite in the jaws of the dog. It absorbs too much shock. But just to be on the safe side i am in the process of making a drop in matchlock conversion. This is period correct for 30 years war as match was always easy to find when the pyrite ran out on a long campaign. Have also done a Scottish Heron Butt Snaphaunce with ball trigger. And a Scandinavian Snaplock with interchangeable percussion and matchlocks. I and a pal here in New Zealand share an obsession with primitive ignition systems. We call ourselves the Primitive Ignition System Society but y/t would not like us to use our acronym.
Nice shirt, ooooh, aaaargh (pirate accent lol...). Appreciate the costume ambience! Very cool. S.
Lead sheet instead of leather to hold flints/pyrite is historically accurate.
She got Character, a real nice piece long time in the making.👍
Thanks Yep she is fun to shoot!
Everything is fine. Respect to the master!
Thank you
I am very impressed! Are you going to start evolving clocks and watches next? It looks like you could do it. Congratulations on a job well done.
Beautiful.
However, you may have just made Old Char mad.
Poor sucker.
2/3 of my smoothies have a rear sight, I like it
It is a very nice feature to have. I wish more of my smoothies had it
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Wheellock are so cool!
Yes they are
Well done.
Thank you, James
Snow flakes had a meltdown over nothing
Yes, I happen to know the exact one who keeps reporting me and they are of the blue haired variety of snowflake lol
Hahaha hahaha 🤣
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