10 Moments That Killed WCW

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  • @davidmatoushek9111
    @davidmatoushek9111 4 місяці тому +664

    I like the fact that this is not a top-10 ranking, but a series of events in chronological order. It just feels so fresh to see a top-10 list have a different set of rules.

    • @MsDawnKeyballs
      @MsDawnKeyballs 4 місяці тому

      its not a top 10
      its 10 moments
      its in the title
      its really simple

    • @cameronbigley7483
      @cameronbigley7483 4 місяці тому +15

      A minor gripe I have is that the "non-ranked" lists still have a countdown, rather than going 1 to 10, like a regular list.

    • @cheapskategamer8562
      @cheapskategamer8562 4 місяці тому +3

      Never said top 10 moments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Said 10 moments obviously in Chronological Order

    • @Ishakeitoff
      @Ishakeitoff 4 місяці тому

      Now ur learning porkchop

    • @Ishakeitoff
      @Ishakeitoff 4 місяці тому

      @LoveAujlaa thanks pumkin

  • @NarsUzumaki
    @NarsUzumaki 4 місяці тому +398

    The fact it’s in chronological order is crazy

    • @memyself7116
      @memyself7116 4 місяці тому +8

      "WCW JUST GOT EXPEDITIOUSLY WORSE AS TIME WENT ON. A SLOW GRADUAL DEMISE!"

    • @mariomm9080
      @mariomm9080 3 місяці тому +7

      The network merger killed wcw and nothing else

    • @rolltide9547
      @rolltide9547 3 місяці тому +2

      They canceled it because it was losing millions.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 2 місяці тому

      ​@mariomm9080 If people read Nitro book, people at Turner wanted to pull plug on WCW as early as 1992 but Turner said no. Merger played a huge part in its demise

    • @NVE
      @NVE 2 місяці тому +2

      @@HabsMike25 yeah turner himself diddnt care about losing the money the man just loved wrestling and diddnt give two fucks what his board had to say about it lol. but yeah when they merged they werent havin it and wouldnt justify the losses on their books anymore. so yeah i suppose your right if it wasnt for the merger ted turner probably would of gladly kept pooring money into it for as long as he was still the head honcho and had controlling interest in turner.

  • @freakfoxvevo7915
    @freakfoxvevo7915 4 місяці тому +299

    I have two emotions whenever I see videos about WCW's downfall:
    -"How could this company fuck up so much?"
    -"Stop! He's already dead!"

    • @bury_the_elite65294
      @bury_the_elite65294 4 місяці тому +22

      This, and a third one - "WCW dying? That don't work for me, brother!"

    • @teur7078
      @teur7078 4 місяці тому +1

      They run out of money 😂😂😂

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john 4 місяці тому +5

      It is a bit overdone at this point. I think most wrestling fans know the many reasons why WCW failed. Not enough people talk about that the new Turner execs at the time had zero interest in wrestling anymore. The ratings and attendance crash certainly didn’t help, but they wanted it gone.

    • @primeweeds
      @primeweeds 3 місяці тому +1

      🎉

    • @premlinnaidoo8033
      @premlinnaidoo8033 3 місяці тому +5

      I guess Ted Turner had enough. He was way bigger than Vince which allowed the man to do whatever. Whenever.

  • @ΜιλτιάδηςΠαπαγεωργίου
    @ΜιλτιάδηςΠαπαγεωργίου 4 місяці тому +359

    -How many worked shoots can we have in one year?
    Vince Russo: ..."Yes"

    • @PRINXE1117
      @PRINXE1117 4 місяці тому +28

      Yes bro*

    • @Wulfman317
      @Wulfman317 4 місяці тому +7

      How many “bros” can we fit into a single sentence bro?

    • @bury_the_elite65294
      @bury_the_elite65294 4 місяці тому +5

      @@Wulfman317 bro', we can fit as many "bro's" in a sentence, bro', as we want to, bro, just because, bro', we can, bro'...

    • @Greg400
      @Greg400 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@PRINXE1117😂

    • @Ishakeitoff
      @Ishakeitoff 4 місяці тому +1

      U trying to be funny g? Come run this fade white boy!!!!!!!

  • @LiME430431
    @LiME430431 3 місяці тому +18

    David winning the title is a slap in the face for many wrestlers and fans.
    But to his credit: he became an actual wrestler and performed in the indies to make up for it.
    Everybody overlooks this fact but I think it deserves at least some credit.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney Місяць тому +3

      I think his whole story is badass.
      First off, the movie… ruled!
      So for him to take to the squared circle for real is super neat.

  • @musaabid1055
    @musaabid1055 4 місяці тому +167

    Giving (egoistical) wrestlers (unchecked) creative freedom was the moment...

    • @artturner2054
      @artturner2054 3 місяці тому +3

      And mediocre Wrestlers (Hogan etc)

    • @kellymcquay2626
      @kellymcquay2626 2 місяці тому

      ​@@artturner2054
      HULK HOGAN was not a mediocre wrestler, and he actually earned his place for creative control.

    • @MichaelSmith-fq6hz
      @MichaelSmith-fq6hz 2 місяці тому

      Tony Khan take notes

    • @kellymcquay2626
      @kellymcquay2626 2 місяці тому

      @@MichaelSmith-fq6hz
      You are a typical WWE MARK!!!

    • @wolf7el356
      @wolf7el356 Місяць тому +1

      "Brother.."

  • @michaellyden2580
    @michaellyden2580 4 місяці тому +144

    Let's be honest: You could do a *Top 157 Moments That Killed WCW,* and only like 11 moments on that list would have nothing to do with Vince Russo.

    • @bury_the_elite65294
      @bury_the_elite65294 4 місяці тому +10

      This. And maybe 5 (maximum) of them would have nothing to do with Mr. That-Don't-Work-For-Me-Brother. :/

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 4 місяці тому +14

      So many people give Eric Bischoff a pass. Yes WCW died under Russo but the cancer was already there under Bischoff. He wanted to be friends with the wrestlers instead of being the boss. I started to lose my interest when the NWO had 72 members. The show was a merry-go-round and that stated under Bischoff.

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john 4 місяці тому +5

      Hogan with his massive ego and creative control they stupidly gave him is a common element too.

    • @absolutez3r019
      @absolutez3r019 3 місяці тому +2

      WCW was a sinking ship long before Russo got there. And even when he was there he was only head of creative for a few months, before Bishoff came back. Either way Russo had nothing to do with WCW getting taken off air

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john 3 місяці тому +1

      @@absolutez3r019 Russo did return as head of creative after a few months of the Kevin Sullivan disaster where he put the world title on Benoit only for him to leave the company the next day.

  • @Kamau1865
    @Kamau1865 4 місяці тому +21

    Kevin Nash seems to get a free pass in these conversations, yet Nash played a pivotal role in all the rotten events that killed WCW. Nash was like a cancer to the promotion. In fact, Nash took a lot more from the wrestling industry than he ever contributed. But he doesnt have the same bad reputation as the Biscoffs, Russos and Bolleas of this world.

  • @TuTu-oc2xm
    @TuTu-oc2xm 3 місяці тому +19

    1995-2002 best time of my childhood.
    We recorded every second on VHS back then.We pooled our pocket money together to convince the parents of the one guy with a cable connection that we could watch the ppv's.
    I miss these carefree, beautiful times

  • @hhtptai
    @hhtptai 4 місяці тому +211

    All in chronological order 😂

    • @Ishakeitoff
      @Ishakeitoff 4 місяці тому +5

      Yes indeed it is short stop

    • @jimnfl7134
      @jimnfl7134 3 місяці тому +3

      Hiring Vince Russo should be a huge reason.

  • @jessemasters1446
    @jessemasters1446 4 місяці тому +22

    10 moments that killed WCW:
    10. Hiring Vince Russo
    9. Hiring Vince Russo
    8. Hiring Vince Russo
    7. Hiring Vince Russo
    6. Hiring Vince Russo
    5. Hiring Vince Russo
    4. Hiring Vince Russo
    3. Hiring Vince Russo
    2. Hiring Vince Russo
    1. HIRING VINCE RUSSO.

    • @nisargkasturiwale3877
      @nisargkasturiwale3877 Місяць тому

      The same guy who helped wwf reach its peak right?? Go check out facts and pull your brain from the dirtsheets and revisionist history..

    • @mighthookya2637
      @mighthookya2637 21 день тому

      It was going downhill before he got there lol

    • @OrcDragon65
      @OrcDragon65 20 днів тому

      @@mighthookya2637 Every company has ups and downs, Russo KILLED it

    • @OrcDragon65
      @OrcDragon65 20 днів тому +1

      You forgot one; Hiring Vince Russo

  • @venomousnate7263
    @venomousnate7263 4 місяці тому +102

    I’ve watched different reviews on Starrcade 97, Wrestling with Wregret and Wrestling Bios, but I will never fully understand the insane main event. Just a mess.

    • @SonBlackHeart22
      @SonBlackHeart22 4 місяці тому +35

      All I know to simplify the finish is down to "It doesn't work for me brother"

    • @AJARyan-yn2uv
      @AJARyan-yn2uv 4 місяці тому +20

      WCW needed an Undertaker backstage at that event.

    • @freakfoxvevo7915
      @freakfoxvevo7915 4 місяці тому +13

      "Sting wasn't tan enough"

    • @southbeachtalent
      @southbeachtalent 4 місяці тому +9

      Hulk Hogan had creative control. All you need to know

    • @antology7
      @antology7 4 місяці тому

      Don't worry. Bischoff can't recall what went wrong either.

  • @Mr_Oggie
    @Mr_Oggie 4 місяці тому +62

    For me and my brother, we had been watching wrestling since the early 1980s and none of these events really had an impact on turning us away from WCW.
    For us it was just frustration in that they'd announce a match for next week or later that night that we'd really want to see and then either the match didn't happen or it ended with a big chaotic finish with half the roster in the ring and fans throwing garbage...
    For a bit we were OK with that: it made sense that they'd want to save the really big matches or finishes to a long story for the next pay per view... but then the pay per views started ending the same way.
    We had to start asking "Why are we paying $50 for a pay per view when we just get the same crap we get on free tv?" and then from there it went to "Why are we watching this if we're never going to see actual finishes to the stories and we aren't wasting money on the pay per views?"

    • @SlimSlashie
      @SlimSlashie 4 місяці тому +6

      Oh that was the shits. For about a year there, EVERY main event ended in a schmoz. It was unbelievably short sighted to think people would stick around for that trash. (and, we didn't!)

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 4 місяці тому +6

      Very well said! I just wanted to see some big matches NOT end with controversy or interference. I got go along with silly storylines that really made little sense as long as there was a payoff at the end. WCW stopped providing that, which is why I began to not care nearly as much for their product, but still liked the wrestlers. Just wanted to see them actually wrestle!

    • @Jukeboksi
      @Jukeboksi 4 місяці тому +1

      I hated the main event scene of WCW from 96 to 01, my whole viewing time. If it wasn’t old timers in trunks being unathletic and slow and boring, it was the endless unsatisfying BS finishes. I loved WCW for the bottom to mid card, so if I were smart, I’d have always went to bed 20min before the end of the show!

    • @BeauWorldWinnipeg
      @BeauWorldWinnipeg 2 місяці тому +1

      In the "Who Killed WCW?" show, Bischoff says what caused this was the addition of Thunder, which he was against. That meant there wasn't time to write decent storylines with clear winners and clean finishes, since he now had to put together two live shows a week. Vince Russo in WWE had similar complaints when WWE started Smackdown later, plus he wasn't going to be paid extra, so that caused him to leave. How long was Smackdown on the air before WWE came up with the brand extension idea?

  • @SsnakeBite
    @SsnakeBite 4 місяці тому +31

    I'm not sure what happened at *Bash at the Beach 2000,* but I do know that when Hulk Hogan comes across as one of the more reasonable people involved, something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.
    Massive respect for David Arquette, though. He somehow knew better than the fucking bookers, made something good out of it and it lead to his genuinely entertaining "apology" tour (not that he had anything to apologize for), training and taking part in matches well into his 50s.

  • @taylorwilson4157
    @taylorwilson4157 4 місяці тому +141

    Hulk is the biggest backstage politician there is.

    • @CamberRockerCamber
      @CamberRockerCamber 4 місяці тому +22

      Absolutely. He had to show Shawn Michaels who the real boss was and Shawn ended up throwing a fit in the ring.

    • @BTL256
      @BTL256 4 місяці тому +11

      @@CamberRockerCamber Shawn ended up giving us one of the most entertaining things to see during that period. Throwing a fit or not, that shit was hilarious.

    • @masterlegacy1
      @masterlegacy1 4 місяці тому +6

      @@CamberRockerCamberMichaels made him look so bad. Lol good for Hogan he deserved it.

    • @HULK-HOGAN1
      @HULK-HOGAN1 4 місяці тому +2

      Hulk Hogan is the best wrestler in the history of the business. Captured lighting in a bottle twice.

    • @99somerville
      @99somerville 3 місяці тому +3

      They are all politicians.

  • @TheBmb2jn
    @TheBmb2jn 4 місяці тому +51

    WCW: Ending Goldberg's streak was a mistake.
    WWE 16 years later: Hold my beer.

    • @sandboxplayerz667
      @sandboxplayerz667 4 місяці тому +15

      Sure, but Undertaker's career was coming to an end. It didn't cost them business.

    • @TheBmb2jn
      @TheBmb2jn 4 місяці тому +6

      @@sandboxplayerz667 True. But it still pissed off a lot of fans.
      Also Goldberg's streak had to end eventually. He couldn't go undefeated his whole career.

    • @sandboxplayerz667
      @sandboxplayerz667 4 місяці тому +3

      @@TheBmb2jn Of course, but his first loss should have meant something big.

    • @TheBmb2jn
      @TheBmb2jn 4 місяці тому +1

      @@sandboxplayerz667 Agreed. Who do you think should've ended Goldbergs streak?

    • @manumental86
      @manumental86 4 місяці тому +9

      ​@@TheBmb2jn DDP Could've realistically done it at Halloween Havoc. The fans loved him at the time and he was probably the only one at the time fans would've accepted beating him.

  • @josephfreeman8516
    @josephfreeman8516 4 місяці тому +29

    Starcade 97 had a build up that shows how long it can take to build something great only to destroy it in an instant

  • @pjdolont9012
    @pjdolont9012 4 місяці тому +14

    the best part of hogan getting a hair up his ass about sting not being tan enough is that sting is literally the ghost of vengance.

  • @AhmedShanto89
    @AhmedShanto89 4 місяці тому +29

    What you gonna do BROTHER! when the finger poke of doom runs wild over your whole company

  • @markellzey1531
    @markellzey1531 4 місяці тому +38

    For respect of accuracy, Goldberg was a heel at the start of his career, infamously feuding with a babyface Steve McMichael over McMichael's Super Bowl ring so Goldberg turning heel at 2000 Great American Bash was not the first time he was a heel.

    • @charlesorlando794
      @charlesorlando794 4 місяці тому +2

      I don’t think Goldberg really had a direction at that time. He wasn’t a face, wasn’t a heel, he was just a loner.

    • @markellzey1531
      @markellzey1531 4 місяці тому +2

      @@charlesorlando794 oh he was definitely the heel. The story was he was stealing Mongo's super bowl ring because he never got to win one with the Falcons. It clearly didn't last but he was 100% heel even if he is terrible as a heel.

    • @charlesorlando794
      @charlesorlando794 4 місяці тому

      @@markellzey1531 to be a heel though is more than how they present you in a feud, if I remember he wasn’t getting booed. He really wasn’t getting cheered much either but more cheered than booed.

    • @markellzey1531
      @markellzey1531 4 місяці тому

      @@charlesorlando794 of course they weren't booing him. He was squashing people in 2 minutes with devastating power moves, but he portrayed the heel in that feud. That was his first program in late 1997.

    • @charlesorlando794
      @charlesorlando794 4 місяці тому +3

      @@markellzey1531 I spoke to about 8 buddies tonight while watching the MLB all star game all of us in our 40s lived through the Monday Night Wars, were die hard fans watched Raw then Nitro on replay, brought up this discussion about Goldberg being a heel against Mongo. Most of us remember the program pretty clearly, we all say the same thing. Goldberg wasn’t a heel, WCW was in a weird place. The horseman were face vs. the nWo but they were heels vs. WCW roster. Mongo was heelish vs. Jarrett but Jarrett was also a heel for example. Goldberg was the same thing he was right on that line, I get the perspective that he was heel, but not everything is heel vs. face. Remember the early 1990 wwf jobbers, one week a jobber is cheered for when he wrestles IRS, the next week he wrestles koko b. Ware and is a face but he’s not really either. It’s kind of the same thing with a lot of the WCW roster at that time. Goldberg wasn’t a heel, he was at worst a tweener but still on the face side, just less of a face. He definitely wasn’t a true heel like Hogan was at the time.

  • @JaimeD.
    @JaimeD. 4 місяці тому +28

    The Radicalz story is one of my favorites being narrated by Sam Driver during the Monday Night Wars' series. 💯

  • @kennycai8695
    @kennycai8695 4 місяці тому +18

    I think Starrcade 97 should have been higher on the list, simply cause of implications involved. Keep in mind, Starrcade 97 was less than a month away from the Montreal Screwjob, and it was still fresh in the minds of everyone. Putting it simply, WCW had WWE by the throat, and one great show would have cemented them as the #1 wrestling company in North America. WCW not being able to finish the job when they literally had all the cards in hand is why this moment is so damning. Regardless of Sting's lack of shape or enthusiasm, or Hogan's politicking, this was the one moment where Bischoff should have put his foot down and say "no, we go with the planned finish". He could not, and well, we know the rest.

    • @Jukeboksi
      @Jukeboksi 4 місяці тому

      Well said

    • @michaelahern9126
      @michaelahern9126 3 місяці тому +4

      Whoever the hell gave Hogan free character control is part to blame.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelahern9126 I loved Starcade 97 and me and my then 9 year old Brother and other fellow 9th Grade Classmates were ALL Popping for Sting, but why The HELL didn't they let him win clean? I don't get it. Even my Classmates with NWO Shirts were asking the same question.

    • @BeauWorldWinnipeg
      @BeauWorldWinnipeg 2 місяці тому +1

      Bischoff couldn't go with the planned finish because of Hogan's damn creative control. But Bischoff could have at least stopped everything that happened afterward. Cancel Bret Hart coming out and Sting winning the title in controversial fashion. True, the ending of the show, just a Hogan victory and that's it, would have been flat, but at least it could have saved Sting's, and for sure, Bret Hart's credibility. And refresh my memory: Why was Bret seen hanging out with the NWO after that? What caused Bret to turn and then be a heel for most of his WCW time, which the fans didn't want?

  • @TheMGSlow
    @TheMGSlow 4 місяці тому +18

    You missed the Hogan/Flair double turn in March of 1999. That's when shit really started falling apart on screen. The nWo reunion which was doing fine in the ratings was just forgotten about. They were still getting 4.0 - 4.5 in the ratings but by the end of April/Start of May it dropped to a 3.0 and could never do more then 3.5 after that.

    • @markellzey1531
      @markellzey1531 4 місяці тому

      I heard Bischoff saying that Hogan was the one that did that. Hogan wanted to be a babyface again at that time. Goldberg also took a few months off to film Universal Soldier so there wasn't much for NWO Elite to do as that was done as a hell factory for Goldberg to run through.

  • @DKCG0113
    @DKCG0113 4 місяці тому +26

    I think Mike Graham’s quote after the Radicalz left was “I need them like I need a hole in the head.”

    • @wildx5634
      @wildx5634 3 місяці тому +1

      Well that was dark.

  • @justinpullen1097
    @justinpullen1097 4 місяці тому +54

    Let's not forget them revealing Foley winning the WWE title on Raw.

    • @r-rod8116
      @r-rod8116 4 місяці тому +19

      If you even thinking about changing the channel to our competition, fans do not. Because we understand that Mick Foley, who wrestled here one time as Cactus Jack, is going to win their world title. Whoe that'll put some butts in the seats. Pha

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 4 місяці тому +19

      Yeah, that was rotten of them, and it backfired spectacularly because everyone loved Mick Foley, including WCW fans! 🤣

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 4 місяці тому +3

      @@r-rod8116 I always liked Tony Schiavone, but what a douchebag thing to say. I wonder if he's ever addressed that in the time since WCW folded.

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@Fluoride_Jones That's not on Schiavone. He did that at the behest of Eric Bischoff, who was the promotion's senior veep at the time.

    • @Jamesrpw
      @Jamesrpw 4 місяці тому +1

      Anyone that went on wrestlezone back then already knew about it

  • @crisdmt5479
    @crisdmt5479 4 місяці тому +13

    2024 and still missing the WCW😢

  • @jrbaxterstockman548
    @jrbaxterstockman548 Місяць тому +2

    Arquette described in an interview the moment he realized how messed up the decision was. He was back in the locker room all hyped up talking about how he couldn't believe he got the title and how amazing it felt out there. He was talking to Booker T and asked him how many times Booker had won the belt. Booker responded blankly "None"

  • @nicktaylor2657
    @nicktaylor2657 4 місяці тому +31

    What really killed WCW was the Time Warner merger Without Ted Turner no longer in charge made no sense for them to keep losing money and that why they were sold to Vince for only 2 million dollars but that was most for the video library

    • @Trekapedia
      @Trekapedia 4 місяці тому +6

      Exactly and a certain executive in charge of the company and of The WB and Kids’ WB! who also canned a bunch of shows like MonsterVision, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Pinky and The Brain and other shows because he didn’t see their value. He even said WCW and MonsterVision were considered too lowbrow programming for Turner and refused to let whoever bought WCW have the time slots on TNT and TBS.
      Oh, and in the case of Buffy The Vampire Slayer, said executive claimed it wasn’t worth the money to keep it around. He did pave the way for Batman Beyond so I’ll give him credit for that, but he destroyed what I loved about TNT.

    • @TheAbnormal
      @TheAbnormal 4 місяці тому

      it was 5 million

    • @Trekapedia
      @Trekapedia 4 місяці тому +2

      @@TheAbnormal actually, Chris Jericho on his podcast and in his books even said Vince told him he paid $2 million so @nicktaylor2657 is right. I think Bruce Prichard even said it was $2 million as well on his podcast.

    • @99somerville
      @99somerville 3 місяці тому +1

      Exactly right. The suits at AOL and Time Warner wanted wrestling and WCW gone. Turner had no power after all the stock dissolutions.

    • @majinvegeta7777
      @majinvegeta7777 Місяць тому +1

      that AOL merger was one of the biggest flops of all time as well

  • @jamesmcdonald9588
    @jamesmcdonald9588 4 місяці тому +48

    Giving Goldberg Hogan away for free was mental

    • @daviddalrymple2284
      @daviddalrymple2284 4 місяці тому +6

      100%.
      I think this list really does shortchange a lot of the bad luck and poor decisions that happened between the two Starrcades. Here are some of them in no particular order:
      - suspending Ric Flair
      - bringing in the Ultimate Warrior
      - splitting the nWo into two factions, and then letting the faction war peter out (which is what necessitated the finger poke of doom in the first place)
      - Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff feuding with DDP and a rotating selection of celebrities (one reason the above-noted faction war died on the vine)
      - booking Goldberg in a main event squash match on virtually every Nitro, thereby defeating every credible title challenger (modern wrestling commentators love to say "Goldberg was so hot; he should have held on to the belt longer." The problem with this thinking is that there was practically no one left besides Kevin Nash to challenge Goldberg.)
      - neglecting Chris Jericho, who was easily the brightest spot of 1998 WCW
      - other notable neglectees included Eddie Guerrero, who had outgrown the midcard but wasn't given main-event opportunities
      - notable long-term injuries included Booker T and Randy Savage.
      Starrcade 1997 was a fiasco, but putting Sting over Hogan in a few rematches seemed to have smoothed things over with the fans. But then WCW creative started making all sorts of little mistakes (largely motivated by panic as the success of Wrestlemania 14 reinvigorated WWF Raw) which finally painted them into a corner in late 1998. The one-two punch of Starrcade 1998 and the Fingerpoke of Doom were the disastrous and desperate climax of eight ill-advised months as WCW creative tried to refresh their product back to the state it had been in a year earlier.

    • @stz03
      @stz03 4 місяці тому +5

      On the other hand; always thankful that I and my friends saw it live on tv. No PPV money as early teens.

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 4 місяці тому

      WCW should've required more than just a pay TV subscription for that match. WCW left a ton of money on the table. Eric Bischoff was way too concerned with the Monday Night Wars to understand that.

  • @MrBeardsley
    @MrBeardsley 4 місяці тому +11

    The issues with WCW’s TV product during its later years definitely contributed to its closure. Once the 83 weeks were over and WWE got on a hot streak, WCW could’ve stayed a strong number two but the rapid creative decline of Nitro and (ugh) Thunder alienated all but the most die-hard fans. By the time of the AOL/Time Warner merger WCW was hemorrhaging money on bloated talent contracts and live productions, and the brand had fallen so far there was basically no chance of it breaking even let alone turning a profit. If anything, pulling the plug and selling WCW to WWE was an act of mercy.

  • @joemomma3208
    @joemomma3208 4 місяці тому +28

    Starcade 97 main event, every episode of WCW Thunder, Fingerpoke Of Doom, Vince Russo, NWO red& so much more

  • @zdziczaybozek2771
    @zdziczaybozek2771 4 місяці тому +12

    One- Starrcade 97
    two- Starrcade 98.Nash ending streak Goldberg
    three- Fingerpoke of doom
    four- Uncensored 99 , Double turn
    five- White Hammer Angle and GAB 99
    six- Vince Russo and Ferrara, chapter first
    seven - The Radicalz Gone and Sullivan's booking
    eight- Vince Russo chapter second and his era, from april to october
    nine- David Arquette and Vince Russo wins WCW Title
    ten- fusion AOL/Time Warner

  • @SlowmovingGiant
    @SlowmovingGiant 4 місяці тому +9

    i would also suggest that not having any friggen plan or even idea what to do with Bret Hart when he arrived was a big part of it. All they had to do was have Sting win clean, hold the belt for 2 months as Hogan tried to get it back, have Bret face a few folks then NWO guy Hennig or Hall. Hogan wins and Bret chase Hogan. For WCW to not use the Best there is , was, will be as the natural successor to Sting as the foil to Hogan was baffling.

    • @Fixxer315
      @Fixxer315 4 місяці тому +1

      It's amazing to think that Bret Hart didn't even get close to the WCW title until two years after his arrival in WCW. Instead, he stayed pretty much in the micdard.

    • @kellymoroz7791
      @kellymoroz7791 4 місяці тому

      totally agree.

  • @Evan-qt3ep
    @Evan-qt3ep 4 місяці тому +1

    When I’m going through it mentally this channel really helps me

  • @UKenn78
    @UKenn78 4 місяці тому +27

    And they did the Fingerpoke of Doom the same night Mick Mankind Foley won the WWE Title and Tony Schivone (sp?) made the infamous “butts in seats” line. My personal moment that killed WCW.

    • @markellzey1531
      @markellzey1531 4 місяці тому +7

      That was when I left WCW for good. I spent 1998 wanting to see Nash vs Hogan and sat through Hogan fighting celebrities and basketball players waiting and there never was a full Wolfpac vs Hollywood feud. I lost my shit when Hall came out in red and black with Nash and then the Fingerpoke and I remember changing the channel within 10 seconds of Nash flopping to the mat and never going back.

    • @SsnakeBite
      @SsnakeBite 4 місяці тому +3

      That line really goes to show how out of touch WCW management was (supposedly it wasn't Schiavone's idea) and how bad they were at spotting which wrestlers connected with the audience.

    • @marumaruko_47
      @marumaruko_47 4 місяці тому +1

      I watched both WCW and WWF in 98 and was immensely happy. The ending of the streak and the Fingerpoke plus the treatment of Goldberg afterwards made my WCW fandom start fading. I followed tentatively afterwards, but when Goldberg injured Hart (accidentally) in 99 was the last WCW match I saw. They lost their biggest technical main card wrestler that night.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 3 місяці тому

      @@markellzey1531 My baby brother and I watched Nitro on January 4,1999 to witness "The Fingerpoke of Doom". We both Sat there in complete SILENCE for 3 minutes. I then replied "Eric Bischoff just COST Ted Turner the Monday Night War". The Next Morning at my HS as we were returning from the '98-99 Holiday break, my Classmate Kevin said "WCW just lost to RAW. There's no going back from this". I even saw other Classmates selling off their NWO T Shirts.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 3 місяці тому

      @@marumaruko_47 It was a Boneheaded move. Goldberg was OVER with the Crowd and Audience and they(ESPECIALLY Bischoff) knew that. How The Hell could they do this?

  • @wewin03
    @wewin03 3 місяці тому +2

    The finger poke of doom night was the death blow for me. Video didn’t mention it but that was the same night Mick Foley won his first WWF title. Raw was taped so WCW already knew it was going to happen. Bischoff thought it was cute to share Raw results and when Schiavone announced it 400K people instantly changed the channel, watched a classic and still had time to catch Nitro overrun main event only to get the finger poke of doom.

  • @patrickdare5356
    @patrickdare5356 2 місяці тому +2

    I was at Starrcade 97 and since we didn't have access to the commentators, none of us knew what was going on. The fact that they could mess up Sting v Hogan in his first match in a year and a half was definitely the beginning of the end. It is fair to say that Hogan was the first nail in WCW's coffin.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 2 місяці тому

      Also having Bret Hart in his first WCW PPV appearance indirectly recreate Montreal Screw Job 6 weeks after Survivor Series 1997 was bad & they would do it again 2 years later

    • @patrickdare5356
      @patrickdare5356 2 місяці тому

      @@HabsMike25 yup, bischoff was always a copycat

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 2 місяці тому

      @patrickdare5356 first one is Bischoff & second one was Russo

  • @chasekozak7206
    @chasekozak7206 4 місяці тому +23

    WCW died nearly 30 years ago and you bet your ass if I see a list about why WCW died I am damn sure gunna click on it

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 4 місяці тому +5

    In 'Friends', Monica's boyfriend (Jon Favreau) becomes a UFC fighter in 1997. In real life, Courtney Cox's husband David Arquette becomes a WCW wrestler in 2000.
    Surely someone noticed this irony at the time, right?

  • @Siciliancivilian
    @Siciliancivilian 4 місяці тому +32

    ANOTHER DAMN WCW VIDEO????
    (sits and watches intentively) ❤

    • @DKCG0113
      @DKCG0113 4 місяці тому +4

      It’s topical. The documentary just dropped

    • @WesleyClark-s9u
      @WesleyClark-s9u 2 місяці тому

      Nobody can ever leave it as warner bros executives were it's ultimate demise. It's always the coulda, woulda and shoulda

  • @RApollos107
    @RApollos107 4 місяці тому +19

    The first two were salvageable, the rest were irreversible damages.

  • @damiennichols4628
    @damiennichols4628 4 місяці тому +5

    I wonder to this day, if Vince Russo cuddles and holds the WCW title when no one’s looking in his own home

    • @craigderby4416
      @craigderby4416 4 місяці тому

      No because its pretend and he's not a mark

  • @Guts-the-Berserker
    @Guts-the-Berserker 4 місяці тому +3

    8:17 This movie is unironically good and a cult classic. It wasn't appreciated back then. Russo, and Hogan were the biggest(but not the only) reasons WCW died.

  • @Dman3827
    @Dman3827 3 місяці тому +2

    Late 90s WCW is my favorite.
    Giving Arquette two belts and putting Russo in charge waa the two biggest mistakes.
    3rd mistake was misusing Curt Hennig.

  • @jamessteel9016
    @jamessteel9016 4 місяці тому +18

    2000 was the number one killer of WCW

  • @robertmittoniii5427
    @robertmittoniii5427 Місяць тому +1

    I just love that wcw kept going to the laying down for the pin again and again

  • @CertifiedNEETClassic
    @CertifiedNEETClassic Місяць тому +2

    This almost shaped up to be "10 moments that didn't work for Hogan, brother." 🤣

  • @fredtott4684
    @fredtott4684 2 місяці тому +1

    Just when folks saying "It can't get worse than that", The next one took it to the next level of sadness.

  • @miroslavtomic7038
    @miroslavtomic7038 4 місяці тому +1

    The story of number 1 actually was that Booker T, who was originally booked to win the match and the title, got legitimately injured and would require a time off, which did happen after the event, so they needed to quickly come up with a new ending. Russo winning was decided on the spot during the match as only a temporary solution. As we all know, only one day later on Nitro he immediately relinquished the title and his win was never mentioned again until the end of WCW.

  • @Greg400
    @Greg400 4 місяці тому +2

    I'll never understand why ending Goldberg's streak was considered such a terrible ordeal. The Wolfpac was far more popular at the time than Goldberg.

  • @gabinoherrera7043
    @gabinoherrera7043 3 місяці тому +1

    The bill goldberg vs Nash match gave me nightmares as a kid, the part where Scott hall electrocuted my hero at the time left me with many sleepless nights.

  • @lamjianhua2884
    @lamjianhua2884 4 місяці тому +2

    Missing the true moment when WCW died. AKA at the survivor series when Kurt angle turned on the alliance resulting in WWF defeating the alliance and the alliance members to lose their job.

  • @wrestlegeeeek
    @wrestlegeeeek 3 місяці тому +1

    Yall described the Goldberg streak ending and the finger poke of doom in the best way possible 🤣

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 4 місяці тому +3

    As a WCW die hard, it was hard to justify watching by about late 99.

  • @Devondavis-fm2dz
    @Devondavis-fm2dz 4 місяці тому +4

    Rather who killed the company or not wcw back then was actually enjoyable to see from time to time

  • @caseyp3879
    @caseyp3879 3 місяці тому +1

    Me and my brothers watched WCW religiously weekly and it was over for us with the Goldberg streak ending and then the finger poke, essentially ruined wrestling for us altogether

  • @donaldharper8632
    @donaldharper8632 4 місяці тому +45

    Hulk killed it. He bears 99.1% of the responsibility. Vince Russo bears the rest.

    • @Braylon1997
      @Braylon1997 4 місяці тому +3

      Vince Russo and starrcade 97

    • @Bfratman
      @Bfratman 4 місяці тому +5

      That worked for him brother

    • @LooneyTunesBackInActionWasGood
      @LooneyTunesBackInActionWasGood 4 місяці тому +5

      Or maybe he didn't brother.

    • @SsnakeBite
      @SsnakeBite 4 місяці тому +9

      I mean, he was definitely part of the problem, but blaming everything on Hogan is just factually inaccurate.

    • @tjstraw1
      @tjstraw1 4 місяці тому +2

      It wasn't because of him that Vince Russo or David Arquette had the world title.

  • @jilujoilujiut2165
    @jilujoilujiut2165 4 місяці тому +10

    Bro im 40 i grew up watching wcw . People were sick of goldberg when he lost the title . They were pumping in those goldberg chants at that point . What killed goldberg losing the belt was the stupid finger poker of doom the next night .

  • @briansmith2207
    @briansmith2207 4 місяці тому +1

    Was a huge wrestling fan back then. Wwf/wwe, wcw, ecw...ring of honor...even tna...it was rough watching wcw go downhill and fast. Still alot of good memories of the promotion but some horrible ridiculous ones as well.

  • @Ziki-P
    @Ziki-P 4 місяці тому +4

    I may of watched another year but my interest in wcw died with starcade 97

  • @mr.hawklingiii8739
    @mr.hawklingiii8739 3 місяці тому +1

    Bischoff even admitted that 1997 was when everything started to go downhill for WCW

  • @IR17171717
    @IR17171717 4 місяці тому +2

    Kayfabe Nash after the Fingerpoke of Doom: "Hahaha! Got you all! You all fell for it! You idiots thought I wanted to be World Champion.........hey wait?"

  • @Deadxman616
    @Deadxman616 4 місяці тому +2

    Finger poke of doom was the same night they told Mick Foley would win the WWE Belt

  • @chaoscontroller316
    @chaoscontroller316 4 місяці тому +22

    Did Russo think he could replicate the Mr. McMahon World Title story by booking himself to win the WCW World Title?

    • @mwcarolina
      @mwcarolina 4 місяці тому +1

      I guess, but unlike McMahon, Russo didn’t look like he belonged in a wrestling ring. At least McMahon was quite muscular

    • @craigderby4416
      @craigderby4416 4 місяці тому

      U do realise russo got the ratings up don't u?

    • @mwcarolina
      @mwcarolina 4 місяці тому

      @@craigderby4416 no he didn’t. The Rock did, Stone Cold did, the McMahon character did. Want me to keep going?? Russo played a “part” in it, but only a part

    • @craigderby4416
      @craigderby4416 4 місяці тому

      @@mwcarolina I was on about when he went to wcw, but yes he did get wwe ratings up too, it's factual, you can deny and deflect all you want, ratings went up under his pen, also austin and the rock have both put russo over in the past.

    • @mwcarolina
      @mwcarolina 3 місяці тому

      @@craigderby4416 nope, Russo didn’t do anything to fix WCW, he made it worse actually. He booked himself strong, why!!?? Why should Russo be booked as world champion!!?? That was the WORST move and decision he ever made and he made some BAD ones. His PPVs sucked, he had a good belt thrown in the trash for a worse belt and turned the Cruiserweight division into a story he did in wwe

  • @ericsmith5974
    @ericsmith5974 Місяць тому +1

    I love Ready To Rumble!!!! Saw it opening weekend, it was a fun movie to watch....

  • @andrewashcraft-hi4ot
    @andrewashcraft-hi4ot 4 місяці тому +2

    Man this stuff brings back a lot of memories I remember being in school and people doing the Wolfpack thing and NWO and all that stuff greatest showman

  • @matthewjohnson9714
    @matthewjohnson9714 4 місяці тому +6

    Bash at the Beach 2000 was when I stopped watching WCW.

  • @miroslavtomic7038
    @miroslavtomic7038 4 місяці тому +1

    Despite their off screen issues being well known at the time and since, Chris Benoit always claimed that, despite Sullivan being main booker in WCW at the time and holding literally all the power over all of the wrestlers including Benoit, Sullivan never took undue liberties against Benoit both in and out of the ring and, outside of the storyline, acted as consumate professional and accepted that Nancy had left him for Chris. Until his tragic end, Benoit claimed that, despite everything that happened between them, he held Sullivan in high regards and had respect for him. This, however, contradicts the fact that Benoit left WCW in 2000 because of Sullivan being reappointed head booker.

  • @example2844
    @example2844 Місяць тому +1

    You want one of the main things that killed WCW? The year 2000, the WCW World Heavyweight Chanpionship changed hands 19 times in that 1 year. Need I say more?

  • @MonoCronic
    @MonoCronic 4 місяці тому +1

    Damn, not giving Wrestling Bios a little credit in bottom left corner is CRAZY

  • @Brownberet197
    @Brownberet197 4 місяці тому +3

    Dlo at the end nice!! I always wonder what if dlo ( given they push push)
    Would have done in 1999 wcw when he was up for new contract
    I say us title at the very least and a run for the title

  • @MRWINDYMETHANE
    @MRWINDYMETHANE 4 місяці тому +7

    I'm surprised David Arquette isn't ranked as number 1.

    • @markellzey1531
      @markellzey1531 4 місяці тому +1

      I would take Arquette winning the title 100 times before Russo winning the belt.

    • @simplysteve68
      @simplysteve68 4 місяці тому +1

      Thats similar to what WWE is doing now with the US title, by having it on a nobody like Logan Paul, who just a few yrs ago was only a famous UA-camr, and his bro Jake is the physical sportsman (Boxing), not Logan! 🤦

    • @MRWINDYMETHANE
      @MRWINDYMETHANE 4 місяці тому +4

      @@simplysteve68 Not to mention he's not even a full time wrestler. I can't stand the fact on how wrestlers such as Brock Lesnar, Roman Reigns, & now Logan Paul who don't wrestle full time are allowed to be champion. Like Ricky Steamboat said, having a wrestler as champion who only wrestles sporadically makes the championship irrelevant and dormant.

    • @robertjoseph800
      @robertjoseph800 4 місяці тому +2

      Logan is actually a pretty good wrestler though​@@simplysteve68

    • @simplysteve68
      @simplysteve68 4 місяці тому

      @@robertjoseph800 yeah? Lol more like a so-so kayfaber, having to "use" brass knucks 🤦 to keep the title, but then again they're all actors anyway! 🤷

  • @carl0061999
    @carl0061999 4 місяці тому +1

    If the Goldberg heel turn had been handled like Batista's heel turn against Rey Mysterio it might have worked.

  • @DavidJGarciaMedia
    @DavidJGarciaMedia 3 місяці тому +1

    till this day Nash claims he was more over than Goldberg and that's why he won the title that night lol Only Nash believes he was more over

  • @jerranspearman3369
    @jerranspearman3369 4 місяці тому +3

    good video

  • @taylordunham9503
    @taylordunham9503 4 місяці тому +2

    Not sure about order, but the 3 names that are the main reason for WCW’s downfall is Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, and Vince Russo. But also you can blame TNT for not giving a shit about wrestling in general.

  • @RossTheisen
    @RossTheisen 4 місяці тому +2

    I will not accept any Ready to Rumble slander here!!!

  • @rickyricardo4331
    @rickyricardo4331 2 місяці тому +2

    Hilarious that it's not a top 10 rather a chronological retelling of WCW's catastrophic cascading failure. What killed it for me was when the nWo got too bloated and splintered off into different factions of and then went to war with...itself. Also, Vince coming out and heeling worked way better as the owner than Russo as a writer.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 2 місяці тому

      NWO should have been kept at 4-5 people but letting it get to big & having different versions of it wasn't smart & defeated the purpose of the NWO. Didn't help having Sting join NWO Wolfpack, especially how Sting feuded with NWO for almost 2 years which also defeated purpose of Sting defending WCW from NWO

  • @stevlejo33
    @stevlejo33 4 місяці тому +1

    After seeing that documentary on vice it really was the AOL time warner merger.

  • @SuperArtie
    @SuperArtie 4 місяці тому +2

    This list rules

  • @fyrewatermelons
    @fyrewatermelons Місяць тому

    It's funny to me how "the powers that be" guy of WCW went out of his way to belittle Jey Uso's accomplishment of winning the IC title while also being responsible for a majority of events that was listed here.

  • @lordrosemount
    @lordrosemount 4 місяці тому

    I love David Arquette. Aside from what he did with all the WCW money he came back to wrestling years later and was seriously good, including in his emotional match with Jack Perry in tribute to his father, Luke, and being quite seriously hurt against Nick Gage. He's not a celebrity but he's in the top tier of celebrities who've ever been involved.

  • @theredactedone2368
    @theredactedone2368 4 місяці тому +1

    The thing about gOLDberg’s “streak”……with the exception of Hugh Morris, Regal, Raven, Hall, DDP, and Hogan, 170 of those wins were against jobber enhancement talent.

    • @majinvegeta7777
      @majinvegeta7777 Місяць тому

      talk about the most overrated wrestler of all time

  • @chryssmetzler2098
    @chryssmetzler2098 4 місяці тому +9

    The finger poke of doom was the first nail in the coffin and I had to watch that fiasco on tv instead of mankind winning the wwf championship from the rock due to a wwf hating step brother.

  • @Aguzman0077
    @Aguzman0077 17 годин тому

    By the time Nash broke Botchbergs streak, fans were ready. They popped huge for Nash winning. Not to mention the boos and piped in chants for months beforehand

  • @darnelldarden9429
    @darnelldarden9429 24 дні тому

    Starcade 97 was the biggest blow to me. To fumble the biggest match in the company's history like that was inexcusable

  • @KNDAWG74
    @KNDAWG74 4 місяці тому +5

    When Viagara On A Pole & Judy Bagwell On A Forklift matches dont crack the Top 10 that tells you all you need to know why WCW isnt a thing anymore lol. The AOL Merger was the official death but all they did was put a dying dog out of its misery. Anyone that tries to tell you WCW was a strong company & AOL would've killed them even if they were still #1 is lying to you as well as living in Mark denial 😂

    • @majinvegeta7777
      @majinvegeta7777 Місяць тому

      lol for real.
      bichoff himself has stated that WCW was always meant to burn bright & die young

  • @christopherharing9883
    @christopherharing9883 4 місяці тому +1

    Say what you want but Nash got a huge pop at Starrcade '98

  • @hdrock4533
    @hdrock4533 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm so sick and tired of seeing one of the reasons why WCW was on the decline was because Goldberg lost to Nash, which isn't true at all. Nash got a HUGE pop after beating him. Now, the Finger Poke of Doom is what did them in.

  • @TheSBleeder
    @TheSBleeder 4 місяці тому

    I really wasn't even offended when Arquette won the title.
    I was just like, "Yeah, that sounds like WCW."

  • @Mattehchan
    @Mattehchan 3 місяці тому +2

    And I officially gave up entirely on WCW after seeing the fingerpoke of doom happen just flipping channels

  • @Barbarianbrotha
    @Barbarianbrotha 3 місяці тому +2

    I still think Russo was a plant by Vince. Nobody could write storylines that bad unless they tried😂

  • @annalee280385
    @annalee280385 28 днів тому

    You can understand why some people used to think that Vince Russo was still working for Vince McMahon. He was part in part 1 of the reasons that killed WCW

  • @theconductor20
    @theconductor20 4 місяці тому

    I think Nick Patrick said Hogan caused the confusion at Starcade, not Bischoff. The three of them and Sting had a meeting and agreed to the fast count, but before Patrick went to the ring Hogan told him they were doing a regular count instead. Patrick tried to check in with Bischoff but couldn’t find him before he had to go to the ring.

  • @nes4tw214
    @nes4tw214 29 днів тому +1

    Feels like 90% of all the matches had some sort of run in or cheat

  • @vortega472
    @vortega472 4 місяці тому +1

    Mike Graham's brains: NEVER DREW A DIME!

  • @johnquintmatt1986
    @johnquintmatt1986 18 днів тому

    The fact you can narrow it down to 10 is Astonishing 😅

  • @MichaelSpikes-pv6kl
    @MichaelSpikes-pv6kl 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @diontaedaughtry974
    @diontaedaughtry974 4 місяці тому

    I favored the WWF but I didn't start watching WCW more often until I watched Goldberg and this was when his streak was in the single digits. I watched Thunder more than Nitro. I love watching both companies back and forth. I started watching WCW less when The Rock first won the WWF title. I didn't watch WCW during it's downfall but I was shocked when it went of business. Ready to Rumble is the last piece of WCW I ever watched and I still watch it I love that movie. Great video 👍👍

  • @DateMike22
    @DateMike22 4 місяці тому +4

    Fingerpoke of Doom was just God awful 🤦‍♂️🤬.