Eric O. Unloads The Parts Cannon!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In this video I bring you along as I address a customer complaint of, "my car won't start after I get gas..... sometimes." It is on their 2016 Ford Escape 1.6 turbo. This is a relativly common complaint. I gave the customer the option to throw a part at or to wait untill it breaks for good. They chose the parts cannon! READY, AIM, FIRE!!
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If I was the customer, I would be comfortable with your option "A", and want this done. It can be called a parts cannon repair, or it can be called preventive maintenance.
Agree. It's not a matter of "if" but rather "when". If the part didn't fix the immediate problem, it prevented one in the future.
The one thing I learned from watching Eric over the years is never move to upstate New York if you love your car 🚗 if the rust doesn't get you the mice will
It's the same where I am in NEPA. It's funny the NY city people that buy second homes all ask why most locals have beater cars for winter driving.
Remember, if you don’t actually know the problem the firing procedure of the parts cannon is “Ready, Fire, Aim”…
lol true! that is the correct order according to the master course of parts cannon manual
Usually the parts cannon is loaded with shredded $100 bills. It blasts them out as a big puff of confetti all over the place.
Funny, it’s the same procedure in IT when management gets involved in issues.
Always start with the least likely and most expensive part, according to govt training…
Lol
@South Main Auto Repair LLC Eric O., your recent vid repairing the exhaust for the customer who requested to "save the wire" was touching, let's say. You and your lovely wife, and your family, are the BACKBONE of this country; it's a cheap cliché, but it's true --if you and your family can make it work in the PRNY, that gives real HOPE for ALL of us! +1 Like
Good wire ain't cheap!
Seeing how much trouble you had removing that air box assembly, I’m reminded of when I worked as an assembler building rotogravure printing equipment. It was imperative that everything we built had the maintenance technician in mind. Obviously that doesn’t go far in the automotive industry.
Cars are specifically made now to PREVENT them from being repaired. See: Dodge Grand Caravan, sealed transmission oil plug.
@@MrWolfSnack That does seem to be part of the problem. The other part would be the complicated mess of wiring, hoses, sensors etc that comes with modern cars to make them way more fuel efficient. And a third part is that cars are being made more and more compact, meaning less space to work in under the bonnet.
@@tjroelsma Yeah. Look under the hood of the new bronco. there's absolutely no way to work on the engine. also the newer ford trucks, to remove the engine you have to take the entire truck body off the chassis !!!!!!
@@MrWolfSnack And those are still reasonably large cars, so it doesn't seem to make much sense. Over here in Europe cars are much smaller, so you'd expect to run into this problem.
Having to remove the engine to work on it has been a common practice with some types of cars over here for quite a while. I had a Mercedes A class that had a really cramped engine bay, but the tiny little Smart City Coupe I'm driving now has even less room in the engine bay than the Mercedes had. With the Smart the engine has to be lowered from the engine bay or even taken out completely for standard servicing.
But it is a very handy and surprisingly fun to drive little car that's very easy to park, which is important to me as I live in the center of a very busy city.
Mercedes Sprinters are a pain to work on. First issue is the computer, who has access to mercedes trouble codes, besides a handful of people and the dealer. Second, the newer ones only use a sensor to tell you how much oil is in the engine. You get told when to add more. Very fun on an oil change when you can't just look at a stick and see what is needed. Forget parts, I even had to special order the engine oil from napa, most parts napa wouldn't even carry, but they did have the filters.
For Ford, my mom had a 11 escape, the transmission filter is in the transmission, but so is my old Jeeps. The difference is the Fords transmission is sealed. The only way to open it is to pull it out, and open the whole case, and it only opens in half, from side to side. No oil pan you can just remove, no filter you can replace. Even old vans with a doghouse are easier to work on, you just have to be in some funny spots. New cars are trying to lock you out, in ways that are done on purpose.
Great job as always. You are the last of a dying breed of honest mechanics who can diagnose and repair modern vehicles. No expensive dealer services required as long as you are around. The Peoples mechanic!!
My first "real" fix of a car was replacing the purge valve on my wife's Hyundai. I learned a valuable lesson. Always look at your new part to see what all is supplied. After struggling for and hour trying to get the gas line off the valve, I ended up using a razor blade to cut the line off out of frustration. As soon as I opened the box to retrieve the new valve, I learned that the new one came equipped with a new section of hose and that if I had just disconnected at the opposite end of the line it would have slid right off and I could have had it done in less than 15 minutes total. lol...lessons learned the hard way.
I always look at the new part before I start the job to make sure it's the right part.
the hard lessons are the best teachers
Ay better a lesson learned then not get it done
that is the same as reading the instructions...."aint nobody got time for dat!" lol ..this is the way...
Experience is a rotten teacher - the test comes first, then the lesson....
Ya know, Eric, dropping a socket where you'll never find it is an example of the Law of Selective Gravitation in action. (I found my 10mm deep well 1/4" drive socket 8 years later when I pulled off the lower intake manifold on Nissan V6.)
Mine was the philips bit from my 6 way screwdriver lost on the same engine nissan vg30e 1990 model.
Isn't that issue only with the 10 mm ?
@@thomasfletcher4765 yes. A 10mm socket seems to have more mass than any other tool and therefore gets pulled down by gravity more often. I am trying to get a government grant to study this phenomenon.
@@ronjohnson8119 Excellent idea, Ron. In fact, perhaps you can establish a scientific corollary to LOSG? Let's call it the 10mm Gravitational Paradox. Whaddyathink?
@@JohnIsett brilliant. I like it!
Eric, if *you* told me it was time to aim the parts cannon at a problem, I'd light the fuse. Thanks as always.
goodness. watching you try to remove that air box was brutal, heck the entire job looked annoying really.... Great video as usual Eric O.
Automotive engineers have almost perfected the art of designing cars so they can't be worked on without full disassembly for any repair.
Ah yes , the classic " there's your problem , lady ! " including the classic reach under , push push push , and " what do you want me to do ? snap it off ?! "
Your comment of dropping the socket down to where you’ll never be able to find it just reminded me of my 10mm socket that literally jumped off my wrench, defied gravity, and jumped into the open air vent of the wife’s Sequoia when I was working on the radio. It happened so fast, I was below the opening, as it went in I heard it drop in, roll to the left, drop some more then roll to its final resting place. I tried magnets of all sorts, and I didn’t want to disassemble the entire dash for 1 socket. I recently traded in the vehicle and if anyone acquires a grey 2006 Toyota Sequoia 2wd, there may just be an old school Craftsman 10mm socket for you in it.
With your knowledge & experience you can make an educated guess & be right most of the time. Sure better than having a mechanic guessing multiple times & charging the customer for his wrong guesses.
modern cars....oh boy.. best film i've seen of hose, plastic clip nightmare
Just love the channel Eric, but the greatest thing you are teaching me is PATIENCE. Really pays off for a mechanic.
What a hassle to remove that filter box! Of course Ford had to make a purge valve such a pain to replace. But like you said, check valves could be a issue later if another aftermarket part is used again. Another happy SMA customer!
These purge systems remind me of the complicated air pump systems the manufacturers were forced to put on cars in the 70s. Band-aids for trying to meet emission standards back then. PIA at best, poor drivability at worse. Great video Dr. O.
Love the photo advice and then not taking said advice when Eric O's videoing the job and could use the video camera to take a video of the snake of a layout for the purge valve piping! 😂
Modern mechanic skill: Tetris! Use your cell phone to record the Tetris blocks before you mess with anything.
Rogue hair sighting @ 23:56 😅
It's also a real adventure putting a battery into those Escapes!
That dang air box was more difficult to remove than that spaghetti monster of a purge valve hose setup
If it wasn't against the rules, he could re-upload the video and name it 2016 Escape battery box removal. 😆
@@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404 😂😂😂🤣
No horsing around, no mention on giraffing around. The lovely purge valve
I’ve often used the “WAG” theory in place of your “BFG” when relaying my thoughts to customers on common issues
Your comedy is definitely getting better ...love it!!
We had a customer that had just bought a car. Wanted a full tank so she noticed that the door was noisy when opening and closing. I ordered the lower self retracting hinge. She later said that went to the gas station and said she could not fill it past 25 bucks. I told the sales rep that we will diagnose it when she brings it back but it was unlikely that she could fill that much before it stopped filling as they tend to build back pressure fairly quick. Anyway, I looked st the design and this was for a 2017 jeep grand Cherokee and that thing has a design that involves 4 possible failures, not the conventional stuck shut vent valve. all in all I concluded that the customer just wanted free gas and made up the story that she could only fill that much. We filled it to 30 bucks and no issues.
Pass the cost of fuel onto the customer.
@@ShainAndrews the purchase of the car was from us so we grant fixes if the customer has some sort of complaint even after the sale is done, though we sell cars "As Is" we grant diag/repairs and even returns when the issue is big enough.
@@ShainAndrews yeah and for like $5/gal too!!!
@@scientist100 I totally get it. If $50 in fuel helps get a repeat customer it's money well spent. Just annoying to deal with those types of individuals.
Who would have thought little Ole Eric O. Would be this FAMOUS? very nice job. Keep it up and get some soft serve ice-cream
I was thinking why we never get Mouse nest in our car’s in the U.K. We do have them the as it’s not uncommon for our cat to bring one in which is fun. Love the job you’re doing today.
My dad had one of these piles. I begged him not to buy it, but he bought it because it was cheap. When he died we could hardly get rid of the thing. Great video!
That's odd, had a 2019 and sold it for more then I paid, before the prices went up on used cars. I have had offers on my 2020 for sticker with 25k miles. I will sell it soon when I get an idea of what I want to drive next.
@@hoodman420 This was 4 years ago. You might be able to do that now.
@@hoodman420 The one my dad had was a 2015. It had oil leaks, transmission leaks, he had it at the dealer about 4 times just for leaks. When he died we tried to sell it and got $11,000 with 36,000 miles.
Next week on SMA…. replacing the molded coolant hose with the brittle plastic fittings that was collateral damage from the parts cannon
Thanks, eric, I have a friend mine about a brand new ford twenty twenty three and it's a 1.6 I hope it has good luck with it. Thank you very much eric for the video you're the man thank you
Enjoying the Ford content. The channel was 'overdosing' on Chevrolet pickups.
Another great video! Thank you Eric from south main auto !
"I don't wanna snap it off on camera"..priceless lol
When pulling connectors, sometimes you have to think outside the box. I had a fuel injection line that had to come off. The deal was it needed a special tool which I did not have. No tool was needed to connect back up. Connector was about 2 dollars ( from the dealer, wow ). Snip Snip, Click click.
Watching you amazes me. F-bombs and Sons of Fudruckers would be flying around willy nilly if it was me. You check yourself and make it look easy. Great job as always.
Pull and pray!!!! A birth control method I used as a young man
Eric O! Great video as always! Mrs Tizzo and I are hoping to stop by in Sept to pick up some more shirts and hoodies. See you then 🙂
Same problem you and i talked about last time we saw you! Lol! Although that was on the Ford Fusion.
Thanks Automotive Bob Villa!
Bob Villa didn't actually do any work. Norm would be the more apt comparison, he was the master carpenter
Love the channel you need to send Rainman Ray's a snowblower ,...... don't forget the brake cleaner effects and segment 😁😂😂😂😅
I was at the Walgreens with the wife the credit card reader wasn’t working for chips had to run it across the side scanner it kept failing, cashier took my card and pulled it across very violently and said you got be rougher with her , I said that’s what my wife keeps telling me. Cashier laughed wife turned red I turned and family with kids standing there looking confused 😐
Wow, that vehicle came from the factory with a rat's nest under the hood!
Ivan would have fixed that with part's from an old washing machine 🤪
Ford may have invented the assembly line plus it appears they have also invented putting the purge valve on said assembly line first and then building a car around it.
After all, cars are designed for assembly, not for repair.
Henry Ford did not invent the assembly line. It was used in the 14th century by Venice to build warships. In other words, His employees refined the process by introducing conveyer belts.
Great Job Mr. O
Some people will laugh at you for “throwing parts” at a car ( guys on IATN come to mind) even though it is often in the customers best interest. If I know from experience that part x is often the cause of the problem a customer is experiencing but the problem is not occurring in the shop I can either spend hours upon hours diagnosing the issue only to either find out that it was the suspected part x or come up with no problem found. Yes, after the hours of diagnosis (that the customer must pay for) I will most likely be able to tell the customer some things that definitely aren’t the problem but I may not be able to pinpoint the cause exactly. If I replace the suspect part that by experience is a known issue, then the customer now at least has one future problem fixed if it wasn’t the actual problem. This all depends on the price of the part etc.
completely agree. I have on occasion sent out a sensor that i can return, customer states problem is still there or intermittent with new sensor. Unfortunately, next part in line is a 1500$ ecm. And its a common failure :(
Yeah... I have a 'rule of thumb': If I can't see it or touch it, I don't mess with it. You sir, have the skill set that I lack.
Yeahhhh, the focus' and fiesta's have plenty of purge valve issues, My 17 FiST had purge valve issues but the dealer fixed it under warranty thankfully
I used to have photographic memory. But at my age, it’s out of focus and out of film. It’s getting hard to find film.
Thank. you for your candor Eric.
The Napa one is probably a doorman part , other parts houses will offer this assembly as well. Remember Napa doesn’t manufacture parts , they distribute them.
Nice job sir
Eric, when you work on a car like this, I am soooo thankful that I didn't buy a turbocharged Ford.
Anything starting issue after refueling is almost always always a stuck open purge valve if tank wasn’t filled with ethanol or diesel lol
Woo hoo got my “come on baby” early on 8n the post followed up with a ding dong, now I’m a very happy viewer
Thanks Mr o I have similar grill and have cooked and ate 4 racks of ribs since the pit barrel video lol 😆 love ya buddy keep videos coming we will watch
Another great video, always enjoy your info
Just did this with a friend on a friends 2.0 turbo escape. So tight in there.
Awesome Eric O.
Great tip on taking pictures.
The KY Jelly for autos . . . good old edible Super Lube!
Ford parts are just like grandma’s apple pie crust, tender and flaky.
Eric,
Great video and fix - thank you!
SMA#1
Paul (in MA)
I have to give Mr o credit for not swearing, mind you the videos are edited 🤣
Next time I'm car shopping at my local Honda dealership, I will speak with a salesperson, and consistently refer to their cars as "Hondoos" and see how long it takes before the salesperson says anything about that.
I've had to buy a bunch of those lines for those. Ford always has them for me in Tennessee.
A little plastic nightmare. Thanks
Wow a new meeting for Ford fix or repair daily
Thanks, SMA 👍
That filter reminds me of my 30 year old craftsman 6.25 hp shop vac.
I diaged a Honda that died every time you had a hard stop.
Then it would start right back up with a little long crank and be perfectly fine until the next hard stop.
No check engine lights.
After 2 days of driving, testing etc, I found about a half a quart of water in the fuel tank.
Every time you had a hard stop, the water would slosh up into the fuel pump and stall.
After looking for a source of the water I found small rust holes in the top side of the filler neck seen with a mirror.
Now seems obvious but I was pulling my hair out for a while...lol
1:00 so what your saying is keep it running when filling up.
Correct ;)
I always keep mine running when filling up. It’s tactical and I daydream it’s like in air refueling.
My fondest memory of my wife's 2014 1.6L Escape was trading that unreliable, over engineered expensive to maintain piece of junk in. Good riddance and sorry for the next guy
SSSOOO tell us how you really feel !!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Whatd you trade it in for?
At one point I was doing two purge valves a week on these fords. Very common.
only time i had this problem so far was on a chevy cruze
When taking those purge pipes out why not tie a piece or string to the one end and when pulling the pipe just let the string follow through, when installing the new pipe attach to the string and pull?? at least you will have a track (string) of where the pipes "run"?
Great work Eric, awesome video!!
I would have been cussing 🤬 at that thing like a sailor until it came out.
I had a 2015 F-150 when you would fill up and try to round up to the nearest dollar or try to squeeze a little more gas in after the pump would click off the truck would always start but would stumble and act like it would stall out I stopped doing that I have a Corolla same thing would happen. I know it’s bad for the evap system. Just something I’ve noticed
My wife’s 2009 Pontiac G8 has the same problem. It always starts eventually...
As satisfying as it is to prove a part is bad, with an intermittent problem even if you spent the hour to get at the valve, you might not be able to show it fail. So I can see why a pro might pull the trigger just based on the characteristic history, more for the customer's wallet than sloppy diagnostics.
WHAT A PITA! The one on my '09 Escape was SOOOO much easier! NEVER get a turbo!
car turbo= NFG
Heavy Duty Class 8 trucks ,,off road , marine and industrial ...theyre great.
Car turbos are a ruse to put micro 4 cyl engines to get hi mpg. No servicability or longevity on auto turbos
I'm hoping you'll have a 2014 Ford Focus SE hatchback to work on. 😉
Eric O's new book. A Pinch and a squeeze under the hood.
Awesome ending today, thanks.
Almost everything I've broken while working on a car so far has been on a modern Ford. Especially the crappy tab at the back of an Escape's fuse box. Those things are not made to be used at all.
Simple solution is avoid filling the tank to the top.
I lite the fuse to a parts cannon once and all I got was this lousy t-shirt that says SMA on it!!
good job...............
8 minutes in still tryin to get the airbox out. Lol. Time for a cigrit. Lol. 🚬🍺
That camera is clear, where the live one was a bit cloudy ⛅️
That air filter setup is somethin else... The filter itself and the way it has to fit in the airbox, the plastic screws instead of clips, not a fan..
My SMA shirt came so now I know what I’m doing. And kudos to Mr O for getting the camera into those tight places so we get to see potential causes of special language usage.
Sounds like the Fuel pump relay I had the same issue on my Taurus
Jeez Louise, that little bugger has more vacuum hoses than the 70 and 80's anti smog V8's.
That's why nobody even pops the hood anymore. Just take it to your neighborhood Mr. O or the crusher and get another disposable car.
Welcome back Boss
Noooo Horsing 🐎 around the Nipple ! ✅️ Check 17:30
ALL that to get the air box out? 🤦🏻♂️
Hey Mr. O, what happened to that old WJ Jeep you picked up?
Hey Eric, bought my second South Main Auto black t-shirt, but mine has no pocket...
Hey, I want to know how to engage that high-speed mode when I'm working on _my_ car!
Wait I have a 2014 ecoboost f-150 4x4. What was that last statement? It has 135,000 miles on it and still running good.