Mental illness in our culture is ignored or swept under a rug! Jesus I hate to say that I know how the daughters feel! But you must let go of what no longer serves you and still love from a distance.
This moment was litterally too much, she even scared me through the screen. Something is so wrong with this woman, I don't ever think simple therapy like Karamo did will fix anything about her. And after that, she mumbled something like, straight into her own daughter's eyes "I will beat you up" as if it wasn't enough I'm seriously worried about these girls' mental health
That is something I have noticed about black mothers especially from that generation; when they have girls they treat them like competition especially when the father stays around and when they have sons they try to train them to be their husbands.
It’s parents they view their children as competition or threats to their happiness that are part of the problem, and it’s too common in black families (moms and dads, both)
@Nick-ei8lt Why does everything bad have to be black-washed? Like this has nothing to do with black culture and everything to do with toxic family dynamics. Which you can find among the black community but also EVERY other community that is composed of HUMANS. Pls stop with the slander you’re not helping anybody. Quit finding every excuse to create a “safe space” per se to hate on black people and especially black women. It’s very disheartening how quick people are to jump on the bandwagon of hate but refuse to acknowledge what that behavior is rooted in, and it’s almost always pain.
I see why she called the daughter in the pink evil, it’s because you can clearly see that she is the one who’s always tried to stand up for her sisters. She clearly has always been the middle man, and I’m sure, the peacemaker between everyone. She most likely doesn’t allow her mother to act like that to her sisters when she’s around, that’s why her mom kept saying she’s evil. It’s because she doesn’t put up with her mom’s rude behavior.
It takes strength to be that person, I would have walked away and left her to her own devices. I would tell my father I'm sorry but to fulfill your dying wish would put my mental health at stake
@@britney3750 girl listen I have a toxic mother. Move forward no contact she's evil. No excuse to why she's treating you all like that!!!! Narcissistic mothers are real but your health and sanity is important. ❤️
Yes I saw that too and it broke my heart. Daughters SHOULDNT be scared to talk the truth toward their mothers but unfortunately it happens like this situation :(
I noticed that as well, she tried to silence because she knows she’s done more harm to her. She told her to sit down as soon as she stood up to speak and purposely tried to cut her off while she’s speaking 😢
It was so sad to watch. Until Mom gets herself some help and let that evilness go, these daughters need to stay away from her and love her from a distance. She is so toxic.
Grief is grief, but the mother’s behavior towards her children is disgusting. I’d have to remove myself from that relationship until she got some real help and took the first steps to make amends.
grief is grief but it's more in this situation. I lost my husband when I was basically still a kid I was 19. Even I didn't handle my grief by abusing people. And I was a kid who had no emotional intelligence whatsoever. This is a grown woman. It's clear to me that she has been like this since before the passing of her husband and only gotten worse since. She clearly pulls them in by pretending that she wants a relationship with them and that she's changed and as soon as they show up she begins abusing them again like every abuser. Something like this is probably never going to be fixed. Because they will never feel safe around her ever again.
@@Monkeybread31 exactly that's my point they're never going to forgive her because they're going to do the work at unpacking their pain and she's not going to change and all of that hurt all of that abuse is never going to leave them and so they will never trust her or feel safe with her again even if she does begin doing the work eventually
Not trying to be funny but she probably beats the breaks of them kids 😢 she don’t give a damn obviously. Just sad AF. So many women wish to be able to have kids and give them love while some are able to have them but treat them like this lady treats her kids.
@@darisleidyperez1502 My nephew’s wife lost their 1st baby 2yrs ago, and is in the hospital right now after an ectopic surgery. We need to cherish and treasure our children, because they are a gift from God. Thanks sis. and have a blessed weekend!
I caught her daughter saying she treated the husband and their father the same way. It’s deeper than grieving his recent passing. She has some deep rooted issues that causes her to act the way she does. I would not want a relationship with her and distance myself immediately. Too many times people expect children to continue to take abuse from their parents just because their your parents. That’s not right to expect your child to be your punching bag.
Her behavior is that of a mentally deranged abuser. That's dishing out her insecurities on her daughters. She needs to be committed for psychiatric help.
It’s ironic she calls her daughters evil repeatedly but I have never seen such true, unbridled evilness in someone’s eyes as I can see in this “mother” like it’s literally scary to look at this woman’s face.
@@Alexxxxxxxxxx3577 I was called a b word, wicked, evil, all because I reported her for my brother saying she chased him with a weapon. Talm bout “why did u come to me”? Ma’am I’m not going to negotiate with someone who’s done it before, and could’ve potentially killed a child..
She may be feeling guilty for the way she treated her husband. Also seems like she’s jealous of the relationship between dad and the daughters…very sad
Yes and she is not sad because she misses him,she has guilty conscious and now she wants to blame her daughters because she knows she's the one who is responsible for her husband's death.may God have mercy on that evil mother.
The hatred she has for her daughters is very apparent. This behavior didn’t start with the passing of their dad and won’t end anytime soon. The way she looked at them was so evil it made my stomach turn. And when she said they can’t bring their kids to her house anymore, I think they shouldn’t anyway because a person who hates you will mistreat your kids
Yes I can tell that nasty hateful attitude has been there for years, the name calling oh I know she was beating on them as kids.. I would leave her evil a** right where she is trust me and gone on about my life!! I know that pain all too well.💔
This is exactly what living with a narcissistic parent is like. It’s not about love, it’s about competition. She’s using her daughters emotions against them. This is something that probably won’t be fixed unfortunately
From personal experience probably not entirely cause the change has to come from her. She needs to sit and try to understand where they are coming from and she never will because she doesnt want to understand
That was my thought right away, she's a narcissist and probably always was. Perhaps it was thr husband who kept things in check but now he's gone and the daughters don't have that buffer. And she said she wasn't gonna look after her grandchildren either. She seems to be violent ant they would do better to stay away from her.
She calling her daughters evil but the mother is pure evil. Just the way she screamed at her daughter in the audience to sit down. That was a monster that came out. Honestly they might have to disconnect and cut their mom off. She's really toxic
That’s exactly what I think it is. I also think that rings true in relation to the father. I don’t think she wishes her daughters loved her more, I think she didn’t want to share the father’s love with her daughters.
I hate when some Parents think speaking your mind and expressing how you feel is disrespectful. In a lot of black households we’re made to feel like we don’t get to have feelings just because we’re the child. You can tell the mama evil asf and jealous. Instead of trying to fix the relationship with your children you’re being spiteful. It’s sad. As a person who lost my dad at a young age it’s a lot of pain when you can’t have a relationship with your only living parent.
Yep… I was told many times as a child “because you are the child and I’m the adult I don’t have to explain anything to you.” You should WANT an understanding with your family. You shouldn’t laugh at them and mock them when they cry. My mom threatened me, hit me with spoons, called me fat and the b word… did all this same stuff. It’s sad. Ever since my sister had a baby I’ve been triggered as hell about my mom watching him bc of how hateful and careless she can be.
Mother or not, for their own mental health they should not stress having a relationship with their mother until she gets some serious help. She is bitter, mean, and evil. They should focus on making themselves better and relationships with each other so that they don’t pass down this same behavior in their own families. As a mother I could NEVER display this level of non care for my kids.
Pot always call the kettle black - it's the mother who is evil. They need to let her gooooo. The mother need good consequence s. That's a woman with a lot of pathology. She used to cuss the Dad too.
The way she acted I was trying hard not to cry. How can she be so cruel to them. They all said they loved her despite all the mean stuff she said to them.
I grew up with this type of mother. Deep, deep, deep, rooted pain here. Generations of pain. The only thing to do is to walk away, I'd at all possible. WALK AWAY😢😢😢
I agree! That's what I said as well. She has hurt that she hasn't dealt with in years and has been projecting it on her girls and probably her husband as well. 😥
Hurt people, hurt people. The cycle continues with her daughters. They are now traumatized themselves. Hopefully they will get help so they don’t do this to their own kids.
As a therapist, I’d have to say this situation is too complex for this show. Mom needs therapy and she is abusive. That can’t be loved out by her daughters. Unfortunately the answer to abuse is not give more love. She needs a mirror of awareness that treatment can provide and a safe environment for accountability and healing from the hurt and pain she is projecting on others. Praying for the healing and wholeness of this family, especially her daughters 😢🙏🏾
Y'all been acting like this. Yall were really raised to believe everything momma and big momma and madea say is perfect and everything they do and say is justified. There are no men in these households because no one wants to walk on eggshells for some fat, black, angry woman who you can't say nothing to. They go they whole lives w/o nobody poppin them in that smart ass mouth so they think their bad. Those days are over.
Im a mental health therapist too and my observation is that the mother is a narcissist/psychopath. She's been mistreating her daughters ever since they were little and, probably her husband. No kind of therapy will help her because in her mind she's right and everyone is not. She's evil and can't love. Bad seed. Her daughters should be educated about that disorder.
Her attitude towards her daughters is not from grief! The youngest daughter said she's been treating her like that her whole life! I believe the mother has some jealousy issues because of the love the daughters received from their father and that's why she said the love was gone after he passed! She can't possibly have true love for them in her heart looking at the way she's presenting herself here! So sad!
Literally telling them she doesn’t love them but saying she wants to “fix” her family? Threatening them ? I say cut her off for your mental health at this point abuse is never okay no matter who it is
@@yolandayolanda7486 He didn't help them.. The hatred that the mother had for her children was too real.. Like what do you say to that? What on earth can you do with that as an outsider?
I was waiting for someone to say that mom was jealous of the dad's love for his daughters. That was probably always the case. Resented them, never wanted them, they divided up the Dad's attention and love, she's bitter he's gone and she blames them. The lack of love she feels is her own. Maybe she can't fathom how her daughters could love her when she knows she never gave them love. The husband's attention and love was probably all mom ever wanted and now she's "stuck" with the kids she was jealous of, resented, and never seemed to love in the first place. Like a hurt little child.
“and the worlds worst mother award goes to…” the fact that those girls sat there in the said, she’s always been this way… It just got worse after their dad passed is heartbreaking… you can tell how she treats those girls behind closed doors
The mother say she wants to fix the relationship with her daughters but looking at her and hearing the things she saying is telling a different story. She don't want to fix it and calling her children evil when she the one speaking evil... I feel for these young women having to deal with their dad dying and their mother blaming them.
When she says “fix” she means for her daughters to comply to her treat like before. Now they’re speaking up more and defending themselves and she doesn’t like it.
I hate how our society tries to force children and guilt trip them to work it out with abusive parents. The children are in a vulnerable place wanting love and acceptance from the person who is supposed to be their protector. It's okay for them to walk away from that hateful woman until she can respect them as people and not her emotional punching bags.
Exactly....we need to stop this for real....and let these relationships go....stop trying to make folks stay in connection with what is killing their inner spirit....
My 14 year old daughter sent me this. She loves talk shows...she was like Mommy you need to see this. After watching this I was so pissed off because this is exactly how my mother acts. This woman behavior will never change and I can already tell you she will never have a relationship with her daughters. My mother is toxic and I refuse to have her in my life. I applaud the young ladies in this video on trying to make it work but she is someone you have to love from a distance.
The first few sentences made my stomach turn... I thought your daughter sent you that because you somewhat act the same way towards her... I don't know you but thank you for being such a wonderful mother to her... You turned the narrative for real... I'm 18 and my mom has always acted like this towards me and it makes me fear ever becoming a mother... I really don't want to become her... And will most probably cut her off sooner than I would've loved to
@@okuhlentuli9093 don't ever fear of becoming a Mother. The Beautiful thing I've learned is I don't ever have to walk in my mother's footsteps. I wish I had a Mother to talk to and be here for me. I don't and I'm okay. I know my daughter will have me until I stop breathing. I don't care what obstacles get in the way my daughter will always know I will never treat her like she is nothing.
Real heavy on the "love from a distance"!!! Because this has opened my eyes that I am grateful for my mother, I'm 16 years old and this just horrified me because my momma has never ever done anything related to this ever.
I recognize this mother's spirit, because I've been in the daughters shoes. Nothing they will ever do will make their mother happy. The siblings need to distance themselves and lean on eachother for support as well as seek therapy to heal. It's great that they all see through their mothers bs because most times theirs a golden child put above the others and are blind to the fact that they are a pawn.
There is help for the mother if she is willing to acknowledge it and receive the help. However, there are many layers of pain that need to be peeled back.
This is beyond grief. Those children don’t deserve that. Listen at the youngest states about the verbal abuse growing up. The dad was the glue that gave those girls a peace of mind and love. My heart and prayers go out to them for strength and healing.
I really feel for them, when my bro passed away,this year my own mother blame for his dead and call me all kinds of names, I was grieving in the side also depressed, it not easy,I understand what her daughters go thru each passing day.i just said my mum need help,but it not easy for me, I don't know what to do,I keep asking myself if am the cause of my bro dead, I just don't know what to do. Deep down am in pains,I just keep to myself at home
Its 2022. Can we as a Black community normalize listening to your children when theyre respectfully telling you about yourself whether it be auntie, uncle grandma etc. Sometime its better to hear it from your kids than someone else. Its so sad to see that they dont have support from someone who birthed them. My mom is my best friend shes my everything, I cant imagine ever having a mother like theirs. This is very disgusting. Like fr fr i feel bad for them🤢
Tbh it should be all communities whether it's black or white. Even white people like myself have issues with their own parents when trying to explain my feelings to them especially my mom and they don't listen at all After awhile I stopped even when I moved out.
This lady ain’t normal? A mother is not supposed to show hate against her offspring, she is literally calling her daughters evil! She is in a sick manic state and she needs help. Her husband/their fathers death most of really brought out her craziness
@@ShyLittle88 Unfortunately the black community specifically is really bad for neglecting the feelings and thoughts of their child and treating them as less. Not to mention how normalized physical abuse as “discipline” is.
Telling them to show her love instead of telling them they need to cut her off immediately was shocking to me, she’s absolutely abusive and none of them are responsible for taking that vitriol, no matter how much she’s “hurting.”
People need to normalize cutting anyone off to protect you peace and mentality! Including parents!!!! It hurts it really does but you have to put yourself first. It doesn’t mean that you necessarily have to disrespect them but respect is earned.When the hurt is there it’s there. 🤷🏾♀️
I cut my relationship with my mom and sister a few years ago and felt instant relief. This is a permanent separation and I have no desire to see or talk to either one again.
This is beyond grief. She has palpable disdain for her daughters and that didn’t just develop over 2 months. This is a sad case but it’s one where these sisters may have to support each other and become their own version of family and love their mom from a distance because no one under any circumstances should be subject to this type of emotional and verbal abuse.
Straight up!!! I’m tired of people living off of the strength of “family” when family can show such a disgust towards you ESPECIALLY children you brought here to earth ESPECIALLY when you have no reason or it’s every one of the kids, you hate them all but you are holier than thou…… it’s abusive and sad and you can find family in strangers more than that mom so connect as sisters and be your own village because dad was a saving grace but he’s gone now 😞
The moms behavior is grossly disgusting 😢 When my father died, I was 13 and my siblings were 9 and 17. I watched my mother be so strong for us. Loved and supported us. She forgot her own grief and held on to us because we were half of him. 30 years later my mother is still going STRONG and LOVING us STILL!! Now I have 2 daughters and there is NO WAY I could EVER talk to them with such unbothered hatred and disrespect!!! I am utterly APPALLED! 😮 My heart goes out to the daughters. I hope they heal. And praying for the mother because she acting out over GUILT!!
The mother is horrible. Before during and after her husbands death. The lady is so damaged there’s no fixing that. Those girls need to separate COMPLETELY.
It's obvious the mother has been that way before her husband died. I feel like I got PTSD after watching her behavior on this show. I feel badly for the daughters and I hope that they find some type of solice in their lives. They probably need to step away from their mother so she can feel their absence. Some people just don't want to change. May God Bless them with strength.
The mom has serious deep issues, just seeing her not wanna pass the tissues to her daughter or screaming at her other daughter to sit down. The kids might as well stay away from her
Then walks off stage still threatening the youngest daughter. While mom is talking about her house and keys I'd be giving them back to her with a quickness. They should protect their peace and focus on their kids and their mental wellness. They can't mom and she's toxic so she can decide to work on healing or have no one at all.
Why? I'm in Australia and don't understand why this awful Mum and her vile behaviour would be the "reality of so many little black girls"? Surely, there's a mix of amazing, great, good, average and horrible Mums. This woman seems competitive with her daughters and her words are so cruel. My father was a cruel and violent man yet I was lucky enough to have an incredible Mum. Girls need their Mums to love, support and build them up. I wish these girls well. Take care. 🐨
You said it!! My mom hated me because of my light skin tone and hazel eyes but the reason she got with my dad was to avoid having darker skin children which is what her mother did also. It literally made me hate myself and everything about me because I couldn't understand why she would call me horrible names, make fun of me and say horrible things about lighter skinned people. She was jealous but I don't understand that. My 18 year d daughter looks just like a younger me, but I'm so proud of her and I love her to death and would never try to destroy her.
If you listen to the daughter she said her mom said her father was breathing like that all day… really the mom blames herself for his death even though she says it’s her daughter’s fault… I hope she gets the help she needs
You can tell this is real. I’m so blessed that my family isn’t like this. This type of stuff needs to be shown more often so more families can heal themselves. So sad
It is real but honestly I see this dimension in my own family but not currently. This used to be us in the past but not as harsh. I can tell it’s both the mother and the kids that are too prideful and clash too often. The daughters talk back which makes the mother mad ESPECIALLY since she’s in front of people which can hurt her pride and make her feel embarrassed which is why she reacts like that. I also see myself in the younger daughter (my past self) as she’s crying and trying to put the blame on the mother but not talking to her nicely/respectfullly either. I can truly say they all need to heal and grow from this because they have so much love for eachother.
@@blckbun the daughters have a right to express themselves and be heard. They are only trying to say “STOP MISTREATING US, calling us evil and liars because it’s not true.” That’s not being prideful. their souls have been crushed by the monster mother. They are hurt while their mom is being demonically dismissive and cruel.
She'll regret every word that came out of her mouth when she needs someone to help her in her older age or if her health fails. The animosity that she's carrying will surely send her to an early grave.
She might be grieving but her attitude towards them has nothing to do with that. Her husband passing is just a good excuse to express how she’s always felt about them.
Exactly. The youngest one said she's been called "B****" since she was a young child. This lady has been abusing her daughters for years. She's just got a "good reason" for her behavior right now. I pray for healing here, esp for each of these 4 beautiful daughters. Karamo is off track on this one. This is not caused by grief.
The mother's past relationship with her own mother needs to be talked about and investigated as well. It's much deeper than just the attitude towards her own daughters. There's a generational chain that needs to be broken.
Normally I think Karamo gives great advice, but the suggestion of telling their mother “dad loved you and so do I” wasn’t it. He was definitely right that this is something far, far deeper than what we’re seeing. But I think his first piece of advice should have been “if you’re mother acts out calmly let her know that you won’t tolerate that kind of behavior and remove yourself from the situation”. I see her daughters’ pain and “Mom I love you” is not going to help because it won’t make her stop. Those girls need to look out for and protect themselves. Like someone else said, “love your mother from afar”
Agreed. I think he took it too easy on her. Instead of holding her accountable, he coddled her and made it the daughter’s responsibility to coddle her too.
See my whole thing is I agree with you, the only thing I didn’t get is one of the daughter that the mom blames for the father death said the mother seen him breathing like that all day and didn’t decide to get him the oxygen. So why blame the girl ? That’s what I want know. This whole situation is so sad.
He needed to see just how far gone (narcissistic) she was. At first she responded positively, creating a false narrative to appear engaged with him and the process. Then later she totally renegged showing her deception. His mistake was giving her responses anything more than face level
@@kclittylife7519 I understand totally where you are coming from. I see Karamo's therapy tactic as well. Love conquers hate! Repetition changes behavior. Constantly reassuring mom that they love her may not be therapy for her, she may never change. However, because they are genuine it will be helpful mentally for them. 💝🙏
@@jamiearnold9159 love you girls and you're amazing beautiful woman each and every one of you. don't ever let her make you feel less babes. stick together and if a no contact relationship has to be the way you live until she stops hurting y'all then it is what it is. yall can't keep accepting abuse being hurled your way. you are too too precious for all this pain 💛 Love from the UK
I am so happy/proud of all of you! There is nothing more beautiful than sisters who have one another! There is that saying “hurt people, hurt people,” your mom just needs her healing.
This is sad. They are all grieving the loss of their father/husband. But the utter disdain and hate she has for those girls has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his death. It’s obvious she has probably felt this way for quite some time but is now free to express those feelings since the husband passed. She seems narcissistic and also possibly jealous of her girls relationship with their dad. They don’t deserve to be treated that way and should probably distance themselves from her until she seeks the help she needs. The daughters need to support and lean on each other during their grieving process.
I couldn't have said it any better!! They will have to grieve her while she is still alive and ghost her for their sanity. Continue to build their sisterly bond and help each other out (financially, babysitting, advise etc) and leave their toxic mother alone.
Your absolutely correct!! That’s why GOD kept giving her girls to🤣🤣She hates self. The love that Man had for his daughters is because he seen her in them. He loved that woman because she loved him so. She didn’t like sharing his love she wanted it all for herself. If she had a boy she would have been fine.
“Girl, I’ll take your braid out your head” 🤣😂. I wouldn’t be able to do nothing but laugh at her if she was my mother, I’ll stay far away from her as possible but I’ll be laughing like hell! She is deflecting her pain and it goes deeper than the death of her husband, I hope she get the help she needs cause she seem like such a sweet person.
The youngest daughter admitted when the father was alive and when they were kids, she would curse them out calling them bitches and other things. Clearly she’s been verbally abusive before the dad’s death. She doesn’t need to coddled and her daughters don’t need to show love towards her toxicity. She needs to be held accountable.
This family is deeply wounded, and the mother needs not only therapy, but she needs strong deliverance. My heart goes out to their family. My condolences for the loss of the father and husband. May God be with them.
The mother is so angry and evil .. I felt so bad for the daughter in the audience she’s so MEAN to her .. she’s mean and JEALOUS of all them!! She doesn’t appreciate her BLESSINGS !!! May those girls love and nurture each other forever because sadly they won’t get it from her .. god bless the siblings ..
She honestly reminds me of the mom in the movie Precious. She seems like an abusive person, and she needs therapy because there appears to be something else going on. The anger needs to be addressed.
There is a huge difference between grief and someone always being rude and evil. You could see it in her eyes. She felt some type of way about them girls way before the show. Things like what she was doing is far from grief. She don't wanna be the bigger person because all she knows is being evil. The fact that these girls were poring love into her after the fact of her being mean is so mature of them. Not one time did she reciprocate.
What got me is the way the mother was walking off the stage she really wanted to put her hands on them but she knew she was on tv and you can tell she put her hands on baby girl (the younger one) before but really all of them because all of them turned around when she was walking behind them n she wanted to pull her braids for real that mother is something else I wouldn’t be surprised if this story hits different platforms it most definitely need some serious help
@@tiffanywoodson8059 I just. I made me so fricking angry. Deep down inside that lady got some demons. Shes projecting her insecurities on them beautiful young ladies.
This hurts so much especially when having a mother who’s just like that. It hurts because why? You know how can a mother treat their own daughter this way and constantly blame everything on us, me. It really is a hard pill to swallow and especially trying to love myself when the person who gave birth to me was supposed to show and give me that love
I really feel like the mother really loved her husband and from her having all girls, she built a jealousy towards them because her husband gave attention and love to the girls and she feels left out.
This woman literally has an evil spirit within her and she doesn't even realize it...The evil one is very clever and it is definitely all over their mother. She has issues and needs some spiritual healing.....She clearly was more than likely also mistreated by her mother and has past on the pain to her own children. Her mother needs counseling and so do her children. Sending love, peace, and blessings from afar for this family. 🙏🏾
@@jahnoyawalker4227to b mean & have a spirit like that you have to have an illness it’s giving evil not too mention she’s been like this it’s just worse the dad gone they said she even treated the dad wrong when he was here she’s sick & she need to seek help immediately
This mother doesn’t care about anyones feelings but her own. If these girls keep telling her they love her, she will never change. She needs tough love, hit rock bottom with no one there to pick up the pieces. Only then she might wake up from her slumber and come to her senses!!🎯
Agreed! And I don’t like how this host is approaching the situation. She’s clearly abusive and you don’t make a victim say I love you to their abuser. He needs to be educated
The mother definitely needs to seek some therapy asap. If not she’s going to die a lonely, miserable, bitter and angry person. In the mist of things she’s causing trauma bonds with her daughters, he has to understand this did not happen over a two month span. This is a life long issue that started with mothers environment.
If the mother wants to miserable, bitter and angry person that falls on her. Not everyone can be help sometimes they got to be the one to change themselves and be a better person before it's too late
If she dies like this, her spirit will linger on this plane & it will carry to her kids kids especially her youngest. Its anger, loathing etc. She has a curse on her & they need spiritual therapy as well as family therapy or the daughter are gonna have 2 walk away
@@ryandiggs750 I agree to disagree to some extent. Not everyone knows how to ask nor receive/respond to help after a lifetime of abuse. Wether it’s mentally, emotionally or physically. That is where prayer, meditation and therapy comes in handy. Her daughters definitely need it asap, if not they’ll pass it down unknowingly.
@@piggywiggy8608 I’d have to agree with you on that, those are what you call soul ties. I certainly believe in breaking generational curses. And hers are trickling down, you can tell she’s abusive in all aspects of her life.
As a mother who’s daughter blames herself for her father’s death, this is stabbing me in my heart! My daughter did all she could for her father, he was sick and his body wore out. He loved her to death. That mother has some issues going on. She probably feels she doesn’t deserve her daughter’s love so she want them to treat her the way she’s treating them. Maybe the father showed them a lot of love that she was competing for. This is very sad.
I remember when I asked my dad to do some work on my car and later on that day he passed out in the floor and was rushed to the hospital. I moaned aloud thinking it was my fault it happened to him and if I hadn't made him work so hard he would be ok. Days later we found out he had cancer and he died a yr after. I'm sorry that she had to go through thinking she was the cause of her father's death. It is a horrible feeling. Even though I only had to go through it a few days it still hurts to think about. I hope she has healing.
she's not just grieving... she's exactly like my mother. excuses to try and mask what it truly is only makes the situation worse. this is what they mean by some people don't deserve to be parents.
Then try to guilt trip u They know they already put fear in u So ur easier to manipulate Talk bad about u on the phone so everyone u could meet that might have the connection to make ur life better already think they know you If u move out then ur an automatic hoe or betrayer Have ppl come over and tell u "No matter what that's still ur family, Stop being ungrateful and yada yada yada she gave birth to u or he gave u life"
The first 3 minutes of the video made me cry . The first picture with the dad of them on the porch to the mom saying they don’t love her like they loved him. Then seeing the family picture of them all together speaks volumes (he was a good dad he’s been there for his girls). 2 different worlds and he still tried to balance it. He’s been there a good dad is such a blessing. Rest his sweet soul❤.
You’re better than me J. D. because I wouldn’t even say “GOODBYE”. I would just move and let her figure it out when she couldn’t reach me anymore. This is so triggering for me, it makes me want to show her girls that their Momma ain’t so tough after all, she’s a bully and she can be dealt with. There’s a lot of people who would defend these girls physically and show them they are worthy of a life filled with love, peace and joy without her.
She’s broken and needs healing. The level of hate an aggression is disturbing, the fact that she have unsupervised access to her grandkids is troubling. I can only imagine the amount of abuse they have to witness.
It took me 4 tries before I could get past the mother yelling at her daughter to sit down. This was my relationship with my mom. Sad part was I was adopted, she chose me to treat me like I was nothing. This brought so many triggers for me. Ladies sadly you will have to seperate yourselves. I'm 46 and I go through so many fears and anxieties that I rarely leave my house. This kind of treatment can have lasting effects on them. My hearts go out to these ladies
I saw this clip on TikTok and I immediately went to find it on UA-cam because she sounds and acts just as nastily as mine. I don't love her anymore and I hope everyone that cares about her, that she has and will inevitably break down, leaves her and she dies alone with no one left that cares. If I didn't have siblings, she'd be headed straight to a senior living facility and that's being GENEROUS. I'm done.
Your willingness to appear on the program is greatly appreciated, family. What transpired that the mother failed to confront or process intrigues me. It appears that the spouse was assisting the mother in loving him and the children.
I was a little disappointing in Karamo’s response in this episode. Instead of holding the mother accountable he coddled her and made it her daughters responsibility to coddle her as well. And blaming this woman’s disgusting behavior on “grief” when her daughters say she’s been mistreating them their entire lives is laughable. That woman needs help and her daughters need to have nothing to do with her until she gets it.
im so glad somebody said it, the whole time im hearing how she mustve been so hurt and she coming from a place of hurt and its as if hes using it to justify it and make a reasoning as to why shes acting like this when the truth is SHES BEEN THAT WAY before the father died
From tye youngest daughters behavior you can tell it not about the grief. That girl has seen things even before the grief. Now she's using grief to just blow it up. She needs to heal from so much more before she can even heal from grief.
@@watchnervanna right, and constantly talking about how hurt she was by losing her husband as if they weren’t hurt by losing their father. This was such a mess and so dismissive towards them smh
For those who feel like they can’t speak up, I PROMISE YOU CAN! Don’t let ANYONE, especially family or the “hand that feeds you” make you feel like you can’t feel anything or have an opinion. QUIT LETTING THEM BRING YOU OUT YOUR CHARACTER
We have to understand our elders did NOT have the resources we have now. This hurt mother did not know how to process her pain nor did she have the resources to. Those beautiful women...🥺😭😭😭😭. WOW. It takes STRENGH and a long time of pain and dedication to understand this. Love and positive vibes to this family 🙏🏾🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎
@@jacquesebrown1545 I understand where you are coming from but It’s the 20th century. There’s no more excuses, she has the resources now & daughters that love & are willing to help. She chooses to be ill
@@jacquesebrown1545 At some point it's too late for excuses. People like this, especially parents, don't deserve understanding. The pain they put their loved ones through is unforgivable and as you can see with this woman, she doesn't want to change, hence the "I am who I am". She's come to terms with her heart being full of hatred and that is how she will die. It's sad, but it's the harsh reality - children stop loving their parents when they have suffered enough, and it's not their obligation to try and repair the relationship. The best thing these girls can do is leave and not talk to their mother again, but instead seek for a support system that actually loves and protects them, the thing that their very own mother failed to do..
She is jealous of her daughters relationship with their father. Always have been and now she can release that energy and express it freely now that he’s gone
It hurts me so much that these lovely girls have to go trough such an situation ,its a tragedy ,the mom is beeing so mean to them shes so cold in the heart ,its so good that they have each other as sisters ,I pray for them ,God protect you 🙏🏻😢❤
What’s shocking is I went to middle school and high school with Jamie and Sabrina Arnold and this story explains a lot about the way they behaved even in school the mother is truly mentally unstable I feel so bad for them my heart and prayers goes out to you all ❤
I’m sad to feel this way, but it’s never the troublesome parent to go first. Their father was their shield. This woman resents the love he showed to them.
He should have kicked mom off the stage after she yelled at the daughter in the audience. Then she could have watched back stage while the daughters expressed their true feelings. There also should have been a therapy session before hand.
Thank you. This resonates and I only wish I had access to the whole episode. I'm sure those young ladies went on to talk about real life. I hope they have a healthy and happy support network and have moved forward. All of them 😢
She’s always treated them like that, this just didn’t start. She was probably jealous and mad because of the love he showed for his daughters and they were the apples of his eye and she wanted to be the woman that got all his love and attention and nobody else, even if it’s their children.
Karamo, you gave those young women terrible advise as it pertains to how to respond to their mom when she says something mean to them. They do not deserve to be emotionally and mentally abused by their mom. It’s clear that this goes beyond just grief. This woman is emotionally immature and needs some intense therapy to deal with whatever issues she has.
I feel the exact same way. The bad treatment did not start with the passing of thier father and they were ALL saying that. Karamo was definately wrong on his approach with this one.
True that one, she needs help n for the sake of being safe for them and their kids they should not amend or try fixing anything they need to leave her until she get back to her senses now b4 too late while no one's physical hurts...
This resonates with me so much. After my dad died our mother changed especially towards me because I was particularly close to daddy. My mother took ZERO accountability for her inexcusable behaviour.. She wasn't this bad but many things she did deeply hurt me. My mother has since passed and as a duty to her and God I looked after her the best I could .. I had to write a letter to release my inner most feelings and burn it to help me on my journey of healing and I am still working on that ... This lady needs therapy ASAP... Her attitude is childish and unwarranted
I'm sorry your Mum was so tough on you. It sounds like you are breaking the cycle and I'm betting that if you are a Mum or decide to be in the future - you will parent very differently and that's brilliant! My siblings and I have done the same as our father was a cruel and extremely violent man. We all chose to never have our own kids scared of being home. Thankfully our Mum was the best we could wish for. I sincerely hope that you have been able to enjoy life now. Personally, I refuse to let my father affect my future, my happiness etc... He had that power when we were kids but no longer. He's apparently a miserable and lonely old man now, missing out on his amazing grandchildren and children because of his vile behaviour. I sometimes wonder if he thought we'd forget what he did? Anyway, it sounds like you had an incredible relationship with your Dad... And that's lovely. Take care.
From what I am seeing, the mother is NOT going to change from her ways or views towards her own daughters. It saddens me truly because this is why a lot of black family struggle to break generational curses or have such hard times with communicating with each other when it comes too speaking out emotions.💔 My heart breaks for those poor girls. It's genuinely okay to cut off those who surrounds themselves by negativity/toxicity especially being apart of family because some people will TRULY not change from their ways.
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As soon as her daughters started coming out her whole demeanor changed. She started out sweet and just flipped the switch.
Ikr it's insane 😮
That's how Narcs are. They can fool the world with their fake vulnerability but they evil .
Mental illness in our culture is ignored or swept under a rug! Jesus I hate to say that I know how the daughters feel! But you must let go of what no longer serves you and still love from a distance.
i mean she literary js said she docent like them because she feels that their the reason for her husbands death so she's obvusly gonna be mad
@@hayleymcneill189 but why lie saying you want to fix the relationship?
The “sit down” moment just tells me the daughter knows if she doesn’t do what is told, she will get worse. It’s heartbreaking.
This moment was litterally too much, she even scared me through the screen. Something is so wrong with this woman, I don't ever think simple therapy like Karamo did will fix anything about her. And after that, she mumbled something like, straight into her own daughter's eyes "I will beat you up" as if it wasn't enough
I'm seriously worried about these girls' mental health
It’s funny of what she said bc it’s on tiktok
@@yuniqueee.2raww 😂
That's Black Mom's for you, they are evil
I felt threatened . My parents never talked to me like that ever. This is an abusive violent parent
I bet her husband loved his daughters with all his heart and the mother has been competing with them ever since the beginning.
That’s the vibe I get
That is something I have noticed about black mothers especially from that generation; when they have girls they treat them like competition especially when the father stays around and when they have sons they try to train them to be their husbands.
It’s parents they view their children as competition or threats to their happiness that are part of the problem, and it’s too common in black families (moms and dads, both)
@Nick-ei8lt Why does everything bad have to be black-washed? Like this has nothing to do with black culture and everything to do with toxic family dynamics. Which you can find among the black community but also EVERY other community that is composed of HUMANS. Pls stop with the slander you’re not helping anybody. Quit finding every excuse to create a “safe space” per se to hate on black people and especially black women. It’s very disheartening how quick people are to jump on the bandwagon of hate but refuse to acknowledge what that behavior is rooted in, and it’s almost always pain.
@@Nick-ei8ltthat kinda racist
I see why she called the daughter in the pink evil, it’s because you can clearly see that she is the one who’s always tried to stand up for her sisters. She clearly has always been the middle man, and I’m sure, the peacemaker between everyone. She most likely doesn’t allow her mother to act like that to her sisters when she’s around, that’s why her mom kept saying she’s evil. It’s because she doesn’t put up with her mom’s rude behavior.
It takes strength to be that person, I would have walked away and left her to her own devices. I would tell my father I'm sorry but to fulfill your dying wish would put my mental health at stake
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@@LadyLoverShae Yeah! It totally does! It’s not fair to the daughter at all!
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. She is the truth-teller of the family.
Allow?
She the type of mother you have to love from a distance
Very true
Amen!
Yesssssssss
Yes girlll
Yes
I feel so bad for the youngest. They are all abused but sounds like she’s still in the house. God protect her!
No we all have our on place !
@@britney3750 prayers extended to you and your family ❤🙏🏽
@@britney3750 Praying for you baby
@@britney3750 girl listen I have a toxic mother. Move forward no contact she's evil. No excuse to why she's treating you all like that!!!! Narcissistic mothers are real but your health and sanity is important. ❤️
@Britney my heart goes out for you all. I pray your mom realizes she's pushing y'all away before it's too late.
The daughter in the crowd seemed so scared to even say something about her momma. Her mom actually put trauma over her. I can see it
Yes I saw that too and it broke my heart. Daughters SHOULDNT be scared to talk the truth toward their mothers but unfortunately it happens like this situation :(
facts! you can tell her mom did some damage to her.
I noticed that as well, she tried to silence because she knows she’s done more harm to her. She told her to sit down as soon as she stood up to speak and purposely tried to cut her off while she’s speaking 😢
Also, as soon as the mom got up to walk behind them in the end she sat up so she wouldn't touch her.
It was so sad to watch. Until Mom gets herself some help and let that evilness go, these daughters need to stay away from her and love her from a distance. She is so toxic.
The mother is so obviously abusive. Clearly physically too. This is so sad and sickening, I’m keeping them in my prayers 100%
Grief is grief, but the mother’s behavior towards her children is disgusting. I’d have to remove myself from that relationship until she got some real help and took the first steps to make amends.
grief is grief but it's more in this situation. I lost my husband when I was basically still a kid I was 19. Even I didn't handle my grief by abusing people. And I was a kid who had no emotional intelligence whatsoever. This is a grown woman. It's clear to me that she has been like this since before the passing of her husband and only gotten worse since. She clearly pulls them in by pretending that she wants a relationship with them and that she's changed and as soon as they show up she begins abusing them again like every abuser. Something like this is probably never going to be fixed. Because they will never feel safe around her ever again.
i co sign on dat!
Perfectly said
@@Lina_unchained the youngest daughter has never felt safe. She was even attempting to abuse her as she left the stage.
@@Monkeybread31 exactly that's my point they're never going to forgive her because they're going to do the work at unpacking their pain and she's not going to change and all of that hurt all of that abuse is never going to leave them and so they will never trust her or feel safe with her again even if she does begin doing the work eventually
If she’s talking to her daughters like this on national television, what is she doing to them behind closed doors?
Not trying to be funny but she probably beats the breaks of them kids 😢 she don’t give a damn obviously. Just sad AF. So many women wish to be able to have kids and give them love while some are able to have them but treat them like this lady treats her kids.
Look at how she told the youngest I’ll pull your braid out your head on national tv.
@@darisleidyperez1502 My nephew’s wife lost their 1st baby 2yrs ago, and is in the hospital right now after an ectopic surgery. We need to cherish and treasure our children, because they are a gift from God. Thanks sis. and have a blessed weekend!
@@philomenaezeh7770 only thing I can say is she will reap what she sews. The man above always sees everything. Blessings 🙏🏽🙌🏽
@@darisleidyperez1502 Amen 🙏
This has nothing to do with grief. This is who she’s always been!
Absolutely! She is an angry, hateful person in general. Had to be hell growing up w her. I feel sorry for her daughters.
They need to cut her off and love her from a distance. This is WHO she is.
Facts
She needs Iyanla Vanzant.
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370spot on!!!!!
I caught her daughter saying she treated the husband and their father the same way. It’s deeper than grieving his recent passing. She has some deep rooted issues that causes her to act the way she does. I would not want a relationship with her and distance myself immediately. Too many times people expect children to continue to take abuse from their parents just because their your parents. That’s not right to expect your child to be your punching bag.
"She treated him bad as well"
Tells me this wasn't grief that caused this. That is no mother. That's a monster.
Her behavior is that of a mentally deranged abuser. That's dishing out her insecurities on her daughters. She needs to be committed for psychiatric help.
It’s ironic she calls her daughters evil repeatedly but I have never seen such true, unbridled evilness in someone’s eyes as I can see in this “mother” like it’s literally scary to look at this woman’s face.
@@Alexxxxxxxxxx3577 I was called a b word, wicked, evil, all because I reported her for my brother saying she chased him with a weapon. Talm bout “why did u come to me”? Ma’am I’m not going to negotiate with someone who’s done it before, and could’ve potentially killed a child..
She may be feeling guilty for the way she treated her husband. Also seems like she’s jealous of the relationship between dad and the daughters…very sad
Yes and she is not sad because she misses him,she has guilty conscious and now she wants to blame her daughters because she knows she's the one who is responsible for her husband's death.may God have mercy on that evil mother.
The hatred she has for her daughters is very apparent. This behavior didn’t start with the passing of their dad and won’t end anytime soon. The way she looked at them was so evil it made my stomach turn. And when she said they can’t bring their kids to her house anymore, I think they shouldn’t anyway because a person who hates you will mistreat your kids
Yes I can tell that nasty hateful attitude has been there for years, the name calling oh I know she was beating on them as kids.. I would leave her evil a** right where she is trust me and gone on about my life!! I know that pain all too well.💔
Or they'll purposely turn your children against you. It's too dangerous a situation.
It's not so much hatred for daughters. It's hatred for self
This is example of love self more than a man
I agree 100%
This is exactly what living with a narcissistic parent is like. It’s not about love, it’s about competition. She’s using her daughters emotions against them. This is something that probably won’t be fixed unfortunately
From personal experience probably not entirely cause the change has to come from her. She needs to sit and try to understand where they are coming from and she never will because she doesnt want to understand
Exactly. I have a parent with narcissist tendencies. They are so draining. I say cut ties with these people. Parent, friend or foe.
Sadly you’re right and I am still healing from that to this day 😢
That was my thought right away, she's a narcissist and probably always was. Perhaps it was thr husband who kept things in check but now he's gone and the daughters don't have that buffer. And she said she wasn't gonna look after her grandchildren either. She seems to be violent ant they would do better to stay away from her.
Just heartbreaking to watch I cried for them 😢
She calling her daughters evil but the mother is pure evil. Just the way she screamed at her daughter in the audience to sit down. That was a monster that came out. Honestly they might have to disconnect and cut their mom off. She's really toxic
She sound like she's from Detroit and Chicago
You can tell she sees all her kids as competition
Yes that was my thought that she is jealous of her daughters and especially their relationship with their father. This is so sad and unfortunate.
Absolutely 🎯
Absolutely. That's the first thing that came to mind as I was watching it. Sad...toxic behavior.
took the words right out of my mouth!!
That’s exactly what I think it is. I also think that rings true in relation to the father. I don’t think she wishes her daughters loved her more, I think she didn’t want to share the father’s love with her daughters.
I hate when some Parents think speaking your mind and expressing how you feel is disrespectful. In a lot of black households we’re made to feel like we don’t get to have feelings just because we’re the child.
You can tell the mama evil asf and jealous. Instead of trying to fix the relationship with your children you’re being spiteful. It’s sad. As a person who lost my dad at a young age it’s a lot of pain when you can’t have a relationship with your only living parent.
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I said the same thing.. like they lost their daddy and you blame them for it.. that’s the most evil shit ever
Yep… I was told many times as a child “because you are the child and I’m the adult I don’t have to explain anything to you.” You should WANT an understanding with your family. You shouldn’t laugh at them and mock them when they cry. My mom threatened me, hit me with spoons, called me fat and the b word… did all this same stuff. It’s sad. Ever since my sister had a baby I’ve been triggered as hell about my mom watching him bc of how hateful and careless she can be.
You are so right
Exactly. It makes you feel so bad and alone .
Mother or not, for their own mental health they should not stress having a relationship with their mother until she gets some serious help. She is bitter, mean, and evil. They should focus on making themselves better and relationships with each other so that they don’t pass down this same behavior in their own families. As a mother I could NEVER display this level of non care for my kids.
She Probably Treated That Poor Man Like Crap! I Wouldn't Claim Her As Mother!😠😠😠
You are so right
Pot always call the kettle black - it's the mother who is evil. They need to let her gooooo. The mother need good consequence s. That's a woman with a lot of pathology. She used to cuss the Dad too.
Her Ass Would Be Alone For Good F Her!
@@celestecruthird7842 one of the young ladies said she did
The way she acted I was trying hard not to cry. How can she be so cruel to them. They all said they loved her despite all the mean stuff she said to them.
I grew up with this type of mother. Deep, deep, deep, rooted pain here. Generations of pain. The only thing to do is to walk away, I'd at all possible. WALK AWAY😢😢😢
The mom js pissed me off. My angers would never.
Unfortunately this is deeper than her husband’s passing… this is childhood trauma being protected on her children. God help them all.
Definitely
I was thinking this exact same thing. That’s usually the cause of this type of mentality. The root needs to be exposed and treated.
I agree! That's what I said as well. She has hurt that she hasn't dealt with in years and has been projecting it on her girls and probably her husband as well. 😥
U right. He's gonna be blue in the face & that lady still gon be hateful..
Hurt people, hurt people. The cycle continues with her daughters. They are now traumatized themselves. Hopefully they will get help so they don’t do this to their own kids.
As a therapist, I’d have to say this situation is too complex for this show. Mom needs therapy and she is abusive. That can’t be loved out by her daughters. Unfortunately the answer to abuse is not give more love. She needs a mirror of awareness that treatment can provide and a safe environment for accountability and healing from the hurt and pain she is projecting on others. Praying for the healing and wholeness of this family, especially her daughters 😢🙏🏾
Y'all been acting like this. Yall were really raised to believe everything momma and big momma and madea say is perfect and everything they do and say is justified. There are no men in these households because no one wants to walk on eggshells for some fat, black, angry woman who you can't say nothing to. They go they whole lives w/o nobody poppin them in that smart ass mouth so they think their bad. Those days are over.
Yes!!!!! I was thinking the whole time, why not have a professional on the show that can actually help this family!
I would love to hear how her relationship with her mom was
@@TheRayofsunshine01 I think he was/is a licensed mental health professional.
Im a mental health therapist too and my observation is that the mother is a narcissist/psychopath. She's been mistreating her daughters ever since they were little and, probably her husband. No kind of therapy will help her because in her mind she's right and everyone is not. She's evil and can't love. Bad seed. Her daughters should be educated about that disorder.
The Father sounds like he was the peacemaker in the family. When he passed, all they can do is go at each other.
Na this woman is evil
That's Normal being Black
@@knightclassic1 not really
@knightclassic1 Your statement is very biased. This is not normal behavior in black families or any other families. This has nothing to do with race.
@@standupbcounted2420 Yes it does, I'm from Chicago so I've seen it all.
That mother's behavior is more than grief. She's been abusive for years.
Her attitude towards her daughters is not from grief! The youngest daughter said she's been treating her like that her whole life! I believe the mother has some jealousy issues because of the love the daughters received from their father and that's why she said the love was gone after he passed! She can't possibly have true love for them in her heart looking at the way she's presenting herself here! So sad!
Literally telling them she doesn’t love them but saying she wants to “fix” her family? Threatening them ? I say cut her off for your mental health at this point abuse is never okay no matter who it is
She is mentally ill. She needed therapy probably long before she had children !
i said i dont see how he helps at all honestly
@@yolandayolanda7486 He didn't help them.. The hatred that the mother had for her children was too real.. Like what do you say to that? What on earth can you do with that as an outsider?
I was waiting for someone to say that mom was jealous of the dad's love for his daughters. That was probably always the case. Resented them, never wanted them, they divided up the Dad's attention and love, she's bitter he's gone and she blames them. The lack of love she feels is her own. Maybe she can't fathom how her daughters could love her when she knows she never gave them love. The husband's attention and love was probably all mom ever wanted and now she's "stuck" with the kids she was jealous of, resented, and never seemed to love in the first place. Like a hurt little child.
If I was in the audience I would’ve yelled out to that young woman “speak your truth.” It’s terrible how her mother scared her 😢
Yeah, but she has to go back to her house. I hope she can get her own place soon.
Yes exactly!
She is abusive and I am talking about physical and mental abuse ,that’s pretty obvious
This goes way deeper than the loss of the husband. This hurt and feeling of inadequacy comes from mom's childhood.
iam parying for the 👪
Think mom has mental health issues
Exactly 💯
Always the root or the seed..
She feels remorse for treating the husband bad as well, and is taking out on all of them
“and the worlds worst mother award goes to…” the fact that those girls sat there in the said, she’s always been this way… It just got worse after their dad passed is heartbreaking… you can tell how she treats those girls behind closed doors
The mother say she wants to fix the relationship with her daughters but looking at her and hearing the things she saying is telling a different story. She don't want to fix it and calling her children evil when she the one speaking evil... I feel for these young women having to deal with their dad dying and their mother blaming them.
Mom needs to turn things around before she pushes them all away.
@@michelleterrell5133 it’s way too late, seems like she’s stuck being a bitter old woman
When she says “fix” she means for her daughters to comply to her treat like before. Now they’re speaking up more and defending themselves and she doesn’t like it.
I hate how our society tries to force children and guilt trip them to work it out with abusive parents. The children are in a vulnerable place wanting love and acceptance from the person who is supposed to be their protector. It's okay for them to walk away from that hateful woman until she can respect them as people and not her emotional punching bags.
Right. They need to run
amen. he was wrong in my eyes for how he approached that. all the way wrong
Exactly....we need to stop this for real....and let these relationships go....stop trying to make folks stay in connection with what is killing their inner spirit....
Tell my Momma that, please.
@@tolithalarkins2643 yes well mama doesn’t care anyways..life goes on
My 14 year old daughter sent me this. She loves talk shows...she was like Mommy you need to see this. After watching this I was so pissed off because this is exactly how my mother acts. This woman behavior will never change and I can already tell you she will never have a relationship with her daughters. My mother is toxic and I refuse to have her in my life. I applaud the young ladies in this video on trying to make it work but she is someone you have to love from a distance.
The first few sentences made my stomach turn... I thought your daughter sent you that because you somewhat act the same way towards her... I don't know you but thank you for being such a wonderful mother to her... You turned the narrative for real... I'm 18 and my mom has always acted like this towards me and it makes me fear ever becoming a mother... I really don't want to become her... And will most probably cut her off sooner than I would've loved to
@@okuhlentuli9093 don't ever fear of becoming a Mother. The Beautiful thing I've learned is I don't ever have to walk in my mother's footsteps. I wish I had a Mother to talk to and be here for me. I don't and I'm okay. I know my daughter will have me until I stop breathing. I don't care what obstacles get in the way my daughter will always know I will never treat her like she is nothing.
Thank you ❤️🥺
@@okuhlentuli9093 Your welcome 😊
Real heavy on the "love from a distance"!!! Because this has opened my eyes that I am grateful for my mother, I'm 16 years old and this just horrified me because my momma has never ever done anything related to this ever.
Who needs enemies when u have a mother like that.
I recognize this mother's spirit, because I've been in the daughters shoes. Nothing they will ever do will make their mother happy. The siblings need to distance themselves and lean on eachother for support as well as seek therapy to heal. It's great that they all see through their mothers bs because most times theirs a golden child put above the others and are blind to the fact that they are a pawn.
The mom is selfish and no help for her.
There is help for the mother if she is willing to acknowledge it and receive the help. However, there are many layers of pain that need to be peeled back.
@@standupbcounted2420 Black People don't believe no help
This is beyond grief. Those children don’t deserve that. Listen at the youngest states about the verbal abuse growing up. The dad was the glue that gave those girls a peace of mind and love. My heart and prayers go out to them for strength and healing.
I really feel for them, when my bro passed away,this year my own mother blame for his dead and call me all kinds of names, I was grieving in the side also depressed, it not easy,I understand what her daughters go thru each passing day.i just said my mum need help,but it not easy for me, I don't know what to do,I keep asking myself if am the cause of my bro dead, I just don't know what to do. Deep down am in pains,I just keep to myself at home
I agree the dad was the glue that held it together so sad
Its 2022. Can we as a Black community normalize listening to your children when theyre respectfully telling you about yourself whether it be auntie, uncle grandma etc. Sometime its better to hear it from your kids than someone else. Its so sad to see that they dont have support from someone who birthed them. My mom is my best friend shes my everything, I cant imagine ever having a mother like theirs. This is very disgusting. Like fr fr i feel bad for them🤢
Tbh it should be all communities whether it's black or white. Even white people like myself have issues with their own parents when trying to explain my feelings to them especially my mom and they don't listen at all After awhile I stopped even when I moved out.
It’s 2022. Let’s normalize recognizing that black communities have the exact same issues as other communities. Much love 🫶🏾
This lady ain’t normal? A mother is not supposed to show hate against her offspring, she is literally calling her daughters evil! She is in a sick manic state and she needs help. Her husband/their fathers death most of really brought out her craziness
@@ShyLittle88 Unfortunately the black community specifically is really bad for neglecting the feelings and thoughts of their child and treating them as less. Not to mention how normalized physical abuse as “discipline” is.
@@LA-fr4gp speak for urself and stop speaking for the. Black community. We dn not share the same thoughts
Telling them to show her love instead of telling them they need to cut her off immediately was shocking to me, she’s absolutely abusive and none of them are responsible for taking that vitriol, no matter how much she’s “hurting.”
their genes are so strong , for them to look exactly like her & it’s like she’s looking at her self with hatred 🤦🏽♀️
This is so DEEP, that last line. I never thought about it like that. You're probably right too. Wow.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@hawtnsweet right omg
That’s exactly it. She hates herself.
For your own sanity, love your Mother from afar.
Absolutely RIGHT
ain’t no love atp.
Amen 🙏🏼
No love there.. u haven't been through it so u probably wouldn't understand the deep trauma.
Nope abuse is abuse. You don’t love your abuser from afar, even if it’s your own family or your own blood.
My heart hurts for her daughters. Not only they lost their dad, but they've lost their mum as well.
It looks like they never had her
People need to normalize cutting anyone off to protect you peace and mentality! Including parents!!!! It hurts it really does but you have to put yourself first. It doesn’t mean that you necessarily have to disrespect them but respect is earned.When the hurt is there it’s there. 🤷🏾♀️
💯‼️
THIS!!! is i’m getting mistreated idc who it is if you don’t want to fix it or it’s not fixable, we’re done. family or not
HUGE Facts protect your PEACE at all cost
thats why i hate the saying “blood is thicker than water”
I cut my relationship with my mom and sister a few years ago and felt instant relief. This is a permanent separation and I have no desire to see or talk to either one again.
Never seen a mother acting like this towards her own children, soo disgusting. Would love an update on them or like an extended episode x
They're alive....thats all the credit I could give this so-called mother.
This is how my mom treated me🤷🏽♀️ when I left and got away I stayed away! I refuse to be a punching bag because she’s hurting!
@@loveandmarriage8041 I’m glad you got away and you are better
@@loveandmarriage8041 I’m so proud of u, genuinely ❤️
@@loveandmarriage8041same with my mom that’s why I live with my dad now
This is beyond grief. She has palpable disdain for her daughters and that didn’t just develop over 2 months. This is a sad case but it’s one where these sisters may have to support each other and become their own version of family and love their mom from a distance because no one under any circumstances should be subject to this type of emotional and verbal abuse.
Wholeheartedly, I agree.
Straight up!!! I’m tired of people living off of the strength of “family” when family can show such a disgust towards you ESPECIALLY children you brought here to earth ESPECIALLY when you have no reason or it’s every one of the kids, you hate them all but you are holier than thou…… it’s abusive and sad and you can find family in strangers more than that mom so connect as sisters and be your own village because dad was a saving grace but he’s gone now 😞
That entire statement 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@mimicoquillionmondesir507Makes me sad 😢 So disgusting
Exactly people get so wrapped up in titles, before anything you human . I will cut you out my life quick
I’m so happy that the sisters stick together. Such a sad situation
To the girls, pick new people, and let mom go - it's her personality. Stop hoping for a different result. She'll die mean, but y'all deserve love. ❤️
Agree - they need to grieve and heal their mother wound
And die knowing no one gives a shit about her feeling because she’s a mom, that’s why she doesn’t care about theirs😀
Yesssss💯
On my soul. Havent talked to my mom in over a month
@@britgaddis Sorry sis, therapy helps
I shed a tear when they started telling the mom they love her and she still had the face of a person who doesn’t care
The moms behavior is grossly disgusting 😢 When my father died, I was 13 and my siblings were 9 and 17. I watched my mother be so strong for us. Loved and supported us. She forgot her own grief and held on to us because we were half of him. 30 years later my mother is still going STRONG and LOVING us STILL!! Now I have 2 daughters and there is NO WAY I could EVER talk to them with such unbothered hatred and disrespect!!! I am utterly APPALLED! 😮 My heart goes out to the daughters. I hope they heal. And praying for the mother because she acting out over GUILT!!
I’m so proud of your mom and y’all tooo she a real queen for staying strong so long just for yalll😕❤ Rest In Peace to your father
she is loved but she don't love noone, neither here husband
Extremely disgusting
The mother is horrible. Before during and after her husbands death. The lady is so damaged there’s no fixing that. Those girls need to separate COMPLETELY.
It's obvious the mother has been that way before her husband died. I feel like I got PTSD after watching her behavior on this show. I feel badly for the daughters and I hope that they find some type of solice in their lives. They probably need to step away from their mother so she can feel their absence. Some people just don't want to change. May God Bless them with strength.
💯
Yessssd
She need to have Iyana Vanzant call her a gutter snipe
Those poor kids!
You don’t have no ptsd 😂 watch the vid n calm down
The mom has serious deep issues, just seeing her not wanna pass the tissues to her daughter or screaming at her other daughter to sit down.
The kids might as well stay away from her
Then walks off stage still threatening the youngest daughter. While mom is talking about her house and keys I'd be giving them back to her with a quickness. They should protect their peace and focus on their kids and their mental wellness. They can't mom and she's toxic so she can decide to work on healing or have no one at all.
@@michelleterrell5133 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾
This is the reality of so many black little girls and their mother.
Sadly most blk mothers are narcs
And other female family members
Why? I'm in Australia and don't understand why this awful Mum and her vile behaviour would be the "reality of so many little black girls"? Surely, there's a mix of amazing, great, good, average and horrible Mums. This woman seems competitive with her daughters and her words are so cruel. My father was a cruel and violent man yet I was lucky enough to have an incredible Mum. Girls need their Mums to love, support and build them up. I wish these girls well. Take care. 🐨
You said it!! My mom hated me because of my light skin tone and hazel eyes but the reason she got with my dad was to avoid having darker skin children which is what her mother did also. It literally made me hate myself and everything about me because I couldn't understand why she would call me horrible names, make fun of me and say horrible things about lighter skinned people. She was jealous but I don't understand that. My 18 year d daughter looks just like a younger me, but I'm so proud of her and I love her to death and would never try to destroy her.
@Cali Classic well they didn’t say all the black girls , they said MANY..so how about you don’t just speak at all
All the daughters are beautiful and I applaud them for doing their best for their mother
If you listen to the daughter she said her mom said her father was breathing like that all day… really the mom blames herself for his death even though she says it’s her daughter’s fault… I hope she gets the help she needs
I heard her say that, and I'm like she's shifting the blame off of her conscience
I also heard the mom say she didn't want her daughters around.
I also heard the daughter say she treated the father bad, too.
You can tell this is real. I’m so blessed that my family isn’t like this. This type of stuff needs to be shown more often so more families can heal themselves. So sad
It is real but honestly I see this dimension in my own family but not currently. This used to be us in the past but not as harsh. I can tell it’s both the mother and the kids that are too prideful and clash too often. The daughters talk back which makes the mother mad ESPECIALLY since she’s in front of people which can hurt her pride and make her feel embarrassed which is why she reacts like that. I also see myself in the younger daughter (my past self) as she’s crying and trying to put the blame on the mother but not talking to her nicely/respectfullly either. I can truly say they all need to heal and grow from this because they have so much love for eachother.
@@blckbun the daughters have a right to express themselves and be heard. They are only trying to say “STOP MISTREATING US, calling us evil and liars because it’s not true.” That’s not being prideful. their souls have been crushed by the monster mother. They are hurt while their mom is being demonically dismissive and cruel.
The hurt in the little girls voice when she told her to sit down broke my heart 😔
She'll regret every word that came out of her mouth when she needs someone to help her in her older age or if her health fails. The animosity that she's carrying will surely send her to an early grave.
That part
When her health fails… Cholesterol is a muthafuxka…
She won't. This is like my grandmother. She will die with her bitterness and delusions
Nope. there are people out there who has no kids at all and are doing just fine in their old age
Shell definitely regret it one day,she has forgotten that she's not getting any younger.
She might be grieving but her attitude towards them has nothing to do with that. Her husband passing is just a good excuse to express how she’s always felt about them.
Exactly!!!!!
I feel like she's always expressed it, but the daddy was the shield. Now that he's gone, there is no one to stop or buffer what she says and the abuse
Exactly 💯💯💯
Exactly. The youngest one said she's been called "B****" since she was a young child. This lady has been abusing her daughters for years. She's just got a "good reason" for her behavior right now. I pray for healing here, esp for each of these 4 beautiful daughters. Karamo is off track on this one. This is not caused by grief.
No doubt! She’s resented them since she had them.
I feel so bad for those daughters. Praying for this family.
The mother's past relationship with her own mother needs to be talked about and investigated as well. It's much deeper than just the attitude towards her own daughters. There's a generational chain that needs to be broken.
This💯💯
Exactly
Normally I think Karamo gives great advice, but the suggestion of telling their mother “dad loved you and so do I” wasn’t it. He was definitely right that this is something far, far deeper than what we’re seeing. But I think his first piece of advice should have been “if you’re mother acts out calmly let her know that you won’t tolerate that kind of behavior and remove yourself from the situation”. I see her daughters’ pain and “Mom I love you” is not going to help because it won’t make her stop. Those girls need to look out for and protect themselves. Like someone else said, “love your mother from afar”
It’s okay to say I love you but she don’t have to be in their life.
Agreed. I think he took it too easy on her. Instead of holding her accountable, he coddled her and made it the daughter’s responsibility to coddle her too.
See my whole thing is I agree with you, the only thing I didn’t get is one of the daughter that the mom blames for the father death said the mother seen him breathing like that all day and didn’t decide to get him the oxygen. So why blame the girl ? That’s what I want know. This whole situation is so sad.
He needed to see just how far gone (narcissistic) she was. At first she responded positively, creating a false narrative to appear engaged with him and the process. Then later she totally renegged showing her deception. His mistake was giving her responses anything more than face level
@@kclittylife7519 I understand totally where you are coming from. I see Karamo's therapy tactic as well. Love conquers hate! Repetition changes behavior. Constantly reassuring mom that they love her may not be therapy for her, she may never change. However, because they are genuine it will be helpful mentally for them. 💝🙏
These girls are so strong. I hope they stick together.
We is ❤❤❤thanks
@@jamiearnold9159 love you girls and you're amazing beautiful woman each and every one of you. don't ever let her make you feel less babes. stick together and if a no contact relationship has to be the way you live until she stops hurting y'all then it is what it is. yall can't keep accepting abuse being hurled your way. you are too too precious for all this pain 💛 Love from the UK
Yes we is……
I am so happy/proud of all of you! There is nothing more beautiful than sisters who have one another! There is that saying “hurt people, hurt people,” your mom just needs her healing.
Definitely gotta be strong 💪🏾
This is sad. They are all grieving the loss of their father/husband. But the utter disdain and hate she has for those girls has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his death. It’s obvious she has probably felt this way for quite some time but is now free to express those feelings since the husband passed. She seems narcissistic and also possibly jealous of her girls relationship with their dad. They don’t deserve to be treated that way and should probably distance themselves from her until she seeks the help she needs. The daughters need to support and lean on each other during their grieving process.
I couldn't have said it any better!! They will have to grieve her while she is still alive and ghost her for their sanity. Continue to build their sisterly bond and help each other out (financially, babysitting, advise etc) and leave their toxic mother alone.
Your absolutely correct!! That’s why GOD kept giving her girls to🤣🤣She hates self. The love that Man had for his daughters is because he seen her in them. He loved that woman because she loved him so. She didn’t like sharing his love she wanted it all for herself. If she had a boy she would have been fine.
“Girl, I’ll take your braid out your head” 🤣😂. I wouldn’t be able to do nothing but laugh at her if she was my mother, I’ll stay far away from her as possible but I’ll be laughing like hell! She is deflecting her pain and it goes deeper than the death of her husband, I hope she get the help she needs cause she seem like such a sweet person.
We do laugh at her 😂
@@britney3750 girl, y’all need to adopt me as y’all sister! I love her 🤣😂
@@lovey_charm she said she love you too boo
Ain't nothing sweet about that lady
All her daughters are BEAUTIFUL!!!
I hope they can come to a common ground and love can be shared
Very pretty!
The youngest daughter admitted when the father was alive and when they were kids, she would curse them out calling them bitches and other things. Clearly she’s been verbally abusive before the dad’s death. She doesn’t need to coddled and her daughters don’t need to show love towards her toxicity. She needs to be held accountable.
She's the parent you have to put hands on and walk away for good until she apologize
Lmao.. right.
No fr
Absolutely the truth
They never apologize
This is so sad, I’m sorry for anyone going through something similar - I pray for your healing ❤
This family is deeply wounded, and the mother needs not only therapy, but she needs strong deliverance. My heart goes out to their family. My condolences for the loss of the father and husband. May God be with them.
Thanks❤❤
Yes someone said it. She needs deliverance
Yes that almost demonic when she was yelling sit down! That is a stronghold
She needs absolute diliverance spirit of jezebel and the father ahab 😢
Yes! Deliverance
The mother is so angry and evil .. I felt so bad for the daughter in the audience she’s so MEAN to her .. she’s mean and JEALOUS of all them!! She doesn’t appreciate her BLESSINGS !!! May those girls love and nurture each other forever because sadly they won’t get it from her .. god bless the siblings ..
She honestly reminds me of the mom in the movie Precious. She seems like an abusive person, and she needs therapy because there appears to be something else going on. The anger needs to be addressed.
I work with a woman just like her. She is so mean and angry with the world..she's a nightmare to work with!
@@michelleterrell5133 yes probably other issues that she's never gotten help for :(
There is a huge difference between grief and someone always being rude and evil. You could see it in her eyes. She felt some type of way about them girls way before the show. Things like what she was doing is far from grief. She don't wanna be the bigger person because all she knows is being evil. The fact that these girls were poring love into her after the fact of her being mean is so mature of them. Not one time did she reciprocate.
Correct 💯
What got me is the way the mother was walking off the stage she really wanted to put her hands on them but she knew she was on tv and you can tell she put her hands on baby girl (the younger one) before but really all of them because all of them turned around when she was walking behind them n she wanted to pull her braids for real that mother is something else I wouldn’t be surprised if this story hits different platforms it most definitely need some serious help
@@tiffanywoodson8059 I just. I made me so fricking angry. Deep down inside that lady got some demons. Shes projecting her insecurities on them beautiful young ladies.
Yes I feel bad for all of the daughter's trying to speak the truth and their mother don't want to hear it :(
This hurts so much especially when having a mother who’s just like that. It hurts because why? You know how can a mother treat their own daughter this way and constantly blame everything on us, me. It really is a hard pill to swallow and especially trying to love myself when the person who gave birth to me was supposed to show and give me that love
I really feel like the mother really loved her husband and from her having all girls, she built a jealousy towards them because her husband gave attention and love to the girls and she feels left out.
Yesssss that’s exactly it. And now that he’s gone she feels like that love and attention she thought she wasn’t getting she’ll never get.
He's not there to protect the girls from her now.
I agree! It seems like she feels she will never be loved again.
Child please! Now days everyone is accepting BAD BEHAVIOR. GIRLS CUT ALL TIES WITH THAT EVIL WITCH, RUN RUN..... Or your lives gonna be a living hell!
@@heykanhey She just may be correct.
This woman literally has an evil spirit within her and she doesn't even realize it...The evil one is very clever and it is definitely all over their mother. She has issues and needs some spiritual healing.....She clearly was more than likely also mistreated by her mother and has past on the pain to her own children. Her mother needs counseling and so do her children. Sending love, peace, and blessings from afar for this family. 🙏🏾
TBH, I'm really glad that the mother showed how she truly feel. It makes the show feel more authentic and not like a Disney story.
Honestly..I think the mom has some mental disability issues. How she talked and acted. She is not all there
@@shicashake-gz2pmI agree!!!!
@@shicashake-gz2pmor she’s just mean.
@@jahnoyawalker4227to b mean & have a spirit like that you have to have an illness it’s giving evil not too mention she’s been like this it’s just worse the dad gone they said she even treated the dad wrong when he was here she’s sick & she need to seek help immediately
Man this lady has so many personalities. She went from sad, remorseful, to angry and Evil🤦🏾♀️
This mother doesn’t care about anyones feelings but her own. If these girls keep telling her they love her, she will never change. She needs tough love, hit rock bottom with no one there to pick up the pieces. Only then she might wake up from her slumber and come to her senses!!🎯
Agreed! And I don’t like how this host is approaching the situation. She’s clearly abusive and you don’t make a victim say I love you to their abuser. He needs to be educated
The mother definitely needs to seek some therapy asap. If not she’s going to die a lonely, miserable, bitter and angry person. In the mist of things she’s causing trauma bonds with her daughters, he has to understand this did not happen over a two month span. This is a life long issue that started with mothers environment.
If the mother wants to miserable, bitter and angry person that falls on her. Not everyone can be help sometimes they got to be the one to change themselves and be a better person before it's too late
If she dies like this, her spirit will linger on this plane & it will carry to her kids kids especially her youngest. Its anger, loathing etc. She has a curse on her & they need spiritual therapy as well as family therapy or the daughter are gonna have 2 walk away
I agree.. This did not happen within two months...
@@ryandiggs750 I agree to disagree to some extent. Not everyone knows how to ask nor receive/respond to help after a lifetime of abuse. Wether it’s mentally, emotionally or physically. That is where prayer, meditation and therapy comes in handy. Her daughters definitely need it asap, if not they’ll pass it down unknowingly.
@@piggywiggy8608 I’d have to agree with you on that, those are what you call soul ties. I certainly believe in breaking generational curses. And hers are trickling down, you can tell she’s abusive in all aspects of her life.
i felt the mom was gonna jump out the screen and hurt me.
Fr tho
As a mother who’s daughter blames herself for her father’s death, this is stabbing me in my heart! My daughter did all she could for her father, he was sick and his body wore out. He loved her to death. That mother has some issues going on. She probably feels she doesn’t deserve her daughter’s love so she want them to treat her the way she’s treating them. Maybe the father showed them a lot of love that she was competing for. This is very sad.
I remember when I asked my dad to do some work on my car and later on that day he passed out in the floor and was rushed to the hospital. I moaned aloud thinking it was my fault it happened to him and if I hadn't made him work so hard he would be ok. Days later we found out he had cancer and he died a yr after. I'm sorry that she had to go through thinking she was the cause of her father's death. It is a horrible feeling. Even though I only had to go through it a few days it still hurts to think about. I hope she has healing.
@@MzCAGOMEA Thank you for that! Always remember the good memories.
she's not just grieving... she's exactly like my mother. excuses to try and mask what it truly is only makes the situation worse. this is what they mean by some people don't deserve to be parents.
Then try to guilt trip u
They know they already put fear in u
So ur easier to manipulate
Talk bad about u on the phone so everyone u could meet that might have the connection to make ur life better already think they know you
If u move out then ur an automatic hoe or betrayer
Have ppl come over and tell u "No matter what that's still ur family, Stop being ungrateful and yada yada yada she gave birth to u or he gave u life"
The first 3 minutes of the video made me cry . The first picture with the dad of them on the porch to the mom saying they don’t love her like they loved him. Then seeing the family picture of them all together speaks volumes (he was a good dad he’s been there for his girls). 2 different worlds and he still tried to balance it. He’s been there a good dad is such a blessing. Rest his sweet soul❤.
This man telling those girls to tell their mother they love her? Nah. The amount of hurt she’s caused them, she doesn’t deserve it.
One word = GOODBYE
Right 👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾
You’re better than me J. D. because I wouldn’t even say “GOODBYE”. I would just move and let her figure it out when she couldn’t reach me anymore. This is so triggering for me, it makes me want to show her girls that their Momma ain’t so tough after all, she’s a bully and she can be dealt with. There’s a lot of people who would defend these girls physically and show them they are worthy of a life filled with love, peace and joy without her.
She’s broken and needs healing. The level of hate an aggression is disturbing, the fact that she have unsupervised access to her grandkids is troubling. I can only imagine the amount of abuse they have to witness.
It took me 4 tries before I could get past the mother yelling at her daughter to sit down. This was my relationship with my mom. Sad part was I was adopted, she chose me to treat me like I was nothing. This brought so many triggers for me. Ladies sadly you will have to seperate yourselves. I'm 46 and I go through so many fears and anxieties that I rarely leave my house. This kind of treatment can have lasting effects on them. My hearts go out to these ladies
I saw this clip on TikTok and I immediately went to find it on UA-cam because she sounds and acts just as nastily as mine. I don't love her anymore and I hope everyone that cares about her, that she has and will inevitably break down, leaves her and she dies alone with no one left that cares. If I didn't have siblings, she'd be headed straight to a senior living facility and that's being GENEROUS.
I'm done.
You deserve love.
What she did to you was awful. Get in therapy to help you drop every hurtful words she slung towards you.
This is a crazy world.
I empathize with you. This also triggered me cuz I was adopted too & was treated the same way! I'm better now, but still healing from the trauma. 😭
@@barbrobertson3965 very good for you man
Same.
Your willingness to appear on the program is greatly appreciated, family. What transpired that the mother failed to confront or process intrigues me. It appears that the spouse was assisting the mother in loving him and the children.
I was a little disappointing in Karamo’s response in this episode. Instead of holding the mother accountable he coddled her and made it her daughters responsibility to coddle her as well. And blaming this woman’s disgusting behavior on “grief” when her daughters say she’s been mistreating them their entire lives is laughable. That woman needs help and her daughters need to have nothing to do with her until she gets it.
im so glad somebody said it, the whole time im hearing how she mustve been so hurt and she coming from a place of hurt and its as if hes using it to justify it and make a reasoning as to why shes acting like this when the truth is SHES BEEN THAT WAY before the father died
i agree
From tye youngest daughters behavior you can tell it not about the grief. That girl has seen things even before the grief. Now she's using grief to just blow it up. She needs to heal from so much more before she can even heal from grief.
@@watchnervanna right, and constantly talking about how hurt she was by losing her husband as if they weren’t hurt by losing their father. This was such a mess and so dismissive towards them smh
Agree 100%
For those who feel like they can’t speak up, I PROMISE YOU CAN! Don’t let ANYONE, especially family or the “hand that feeds you” make you feel like you can’t feel anything or have an opinion. QUIT LETTING THEM BRING YOU OUT YOUR CHARACTER
We have to understand our elders did NOT have the resources we have now. This hurt mother did not know how to process her pain nor did she have the resources to. Those beautiful women...🥺😭😭😭😭. WOW. It takes STRENGH and a long time of pain and dedication to understand this. Love and positive vibes to this family 🙏🏾🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎
@@jacquesebrown1545 I understand where you are coming from but It’s the 20th century. There’s no more excuses, she has the resources now & daughters that love & are willing to help. She chooses to be ill
@@jacquesebrown1545 At some point it's too late for excuses. People like this, especially parents, don't deserve understanding. The pain they put their loved ones through is unforgivable and as you can see with this woman, she doesn't want to change, hence the "I am who I am". She's come to terms with her heart being full of hatred and that is how she will die. It's sad, but it's the harsh reality - children stop loving their parents when they have suffered enough, and it's not their obligation to try and repair the relationship. The best thing these girls can do is leave and not talk to their mother again, but instead seek for a support system that actually loves and protects them, the thing that their very own mother failed to do..
@@hoodedraven1181 agreed!!
She would NEVER keep my kids.
She is jealous of her daughters relationship with their father. Always have been and now she can release that energy and express it freely now that he’s gone
It hurts me so much that these lovely girls have to go trough such an situation ,its a tragedy ,the mom is beeing so mean to them shes so cold in the heart ,its so good that they have each other as sisters ,I pray for them ,God protect you 🙏🏻😢❤
What’s shocking is I went to middle school and high school with Jamie and Sabrina Arnold and this story explains a lot about the way they behaved even in school the mother is truly mentally unstable I feel so bad for them my heart and prayers goes out to you all ❤
That's terrible
@@cocoaeverett4796 mind the business that pays you
@@camilamartinez3791 hugs 🤗
what kinda behavior
@@camilamartinez3791 it’s on UA-cam sooo 🤔
I’m sad to feel this way, but it’s never the troublesome parent to go first. Their father was their shield. This woman resents the love he showed to them.
He should have kicked mom off the stage after she yelled at the daughter in the audience. Then she could have watched back stage while the daughters expressed their true feelings. There also should have been a therapy session before hand.
That’s what Steve Wilkos would’ve done
Exactly she said some abusive things!!!
@@jimt.626 And threw a chair
@@roslynhawkins1475 I forgot he did that and says "get the hell off my stage!!"
Thank you. This resonates and I only wish I had access to the whole episode. I'm sure those young ladies went on to talk about real life. I hope they have a healthy and happy support network and have moved forward. All of them 😢
She’s always treated them like that, this just didn’t start. She was probably jealous and mad because of the love he showed for his daughters and they were the apples of his eye and she wanted to be the woman that got all his love and attention and nobody else, even if it’s their children.
Yep narcissist make idols of their partners and don’t like to share that “love”
Karamo, you gave those young women terrible advise as it pertains to how to respond to their mom when she says something mean to them. They do not deserve to be emotionally and mentally abused by their mom. It’s clear that this goes beyond just grief. This woman is emotionally immature and needs some intense therapy to deal with whatever issues she has.
I feel the exact same way. The bad treatment did not start with the passing of thier father and they were ALL saying that. Karamo was definately wrong on his approach with this one.
Yea we came on the show to talk about how we loved her but they pictured a different picture
I honestly don’t even think he knew what to say. This was a mess
Exactly I hope they were able to get them real counseling
True that one, she needs help n for the sake of being safe for them and their kids they should not amend or try fixing anything they need to leave her until she get back to her senses now b4 too late while no one's physical hurts...
This resonates with me so much. After my dad died our mother changed especially towards me because I was particularly close to daddy. My mother took ZERO accountability for her inexcusable behaviour.. She wasn't this bad but many things she did deeply hurt me. My mother has since passed and as a duty to her and God I looked after her the best I could .. I had to write a letter to release my inner most feelings and burn it to help me on my journey of healing and I am still working on that ... This lady needs therapy ASAP... Her attitude is childish and unwarranted
I'm sorry your Mum was so tough on you. It sounds like you are breaking the cycle and I'm betting that if you are a Mum or decide to be in the future - you will parent very differently and that's brilliant! My siblings and I have done the same as our father was a cruel and extremely violent man. We all chose to never have our own kids scared of being home. Thankfully our Mum was the best we could wish for. I sincerely hope that you have been able to enjoy life now. Personally, I refuse to let my father affect my future, my happiness etc... He had that power when we were kids but no longer. He's apparently a miserable and lonely old man now, missing out on his amazing grandchildren and children because of his vile behaviour. I sometimes wonder if he thought we'd forget what he did?
Anyway, it sounds like you had an incredible relationship with your Dad... And that's lovely. Take care.
She won't change and she definitely won't go to therapy. She sees that nothing is wrong with her and everyone else is the problem.
Omg. She’s really mean to her daughters. It made me cry.
From what I am seeing, the mother is NOT going to change from her ways or views towards her own daughters. It saddens me truly because this is why a lot of black family struggle to break generational curses or have such hard times with communicating with each other when it comes too speaking out emotions.💔 My heart breaks for those poor girls. It's genuinely okay to cut off those who surrounds themselves by negativity/toxicity especially being apart of family because some people will TRULY not change from their ways.
My mom used to be like this. I finally left when I realized she would only change for herself.