Xaryu Realises Why TBC PvP Is So Unique (And More Arena With Pikaboo)
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Xar: it’s so different from live, mana is a thing
Me: it’s exactly as I remember it and it’s beautiful AF
But mana is a thing in retails , i mean maybe not in 1.4 bracket but higher it is
@@lolilol535 I think Xar means for dps as well. Its only a thing for healers in Live. In TBC dps classes like shadow priest, ele sham, enha shaman, hunter, etc, shokadin, etc could also go oom.
@@lolilol535 No its NOT. Its only burst
@@lolilol535 no it’s not lol
@@Kamelryttare it actually is
"If you hit 70, I'll help you get gladiator just like on live" LOLLL
Lmao 😂
LMFAO wish someone would help me get glad LOL
Jokes
Savage.
I only played classic then came back during Cata. Was in the Navy. Now TBC is out and I can’t play again cause I’m a boomer with to many responsibilities. I also feel like I can’t ever play this well. I’ll just have to live vicariously through Xaryu. Keep up the great content! Thanks.
thank you for your service
Man TBC looks so cool. Can't wait to be there.
I just love the fact that Xar says Shept and Blound LOL
pvp in classic/tbc is way more enjoyable to watch then retail pvp
"yooo, should I trinket?" Lmao
Classic / TBC is so much easier to follow. Game feels slower than retail. Or idk. Can’t put it into words properly but TBC feels organized and simple. Retail is so much colors/bloat/stuns/silences/leaps/jumps i just don’t know what’s happening. It’s 100% uptime always.
Exactly. Clean is the right word for tbc. Something live lack of entirely.
I feel the complete opposite but maybe it’s Bc I started in mop
It’s the visual effects and sounds mainly. Everything is shiny in retail, every ability proc just looks like ambulances lights on your screen, every sword swing has a colorful trail behind it etc. Vanilla up to Cata was much more minimalistic. It started changing with Cata and but really became visually overwhelming in MoP.
@@plackiplicki3531 nop. Its not that.
and then you have dks and other classes with like 1000 pets with special abbilities doing their own shit, while you are managing your own cds
tbc arena is the bread and butter of arenas and each global / movement can change / make / break the game.
Bro come on now please. The only thing can ever change / make / break the game is resist-miss RNG. Dont exaggerate things just get your facts straight and say: I love/enjoy TBC PvP more because its simpler.
@@biganeil simpler is harder in that scenario. i cant really break it down more so your small brain can absorb it sorry.
@@YDreams93 bro 1 global chunks almost as hard as live does. TBC arena looks and plays like shit compared to MoP
I'm starting to have second thoughts about tbc. Mage looks so fun in tbc pvp
It does indeed
So glad to see that Xary is enjoying TBC arena, because retail is just painful for me personally. I'd love to see him give it a real shot in live.
these games are super cool. I don't play wow anymore so i cant really follow what's happening on retail as it's all so quick. I know exactly what you and your enemy are doing here in BC. Awesome content. Looks like a lot of fun!
please more tbc videos if you have fun with those
I think its funny that you find this so bizarre lol. That's how I feel about playing Retail Arenas.
Gonna be amazing seeing the tbc glads In full remaster
Oh lord this brings back the memories of playing hunter... bout the only viable strat a hunter had in Arena was to kite non-stop with mana drain shot until they were OOM and THEN do damage lol
Watching you guys having fun, having a good time, and enjoying the TBC plus the chemistry between you and Pikaa is unreal...ARENAS FTW!! getting Gladiator and having fun new meta
Tbc arenas are a war of attrition for most matchups. You need to use your mana and cds effectively and force the opponents to use theirs ineffectively... what you never never want to allow is them to reset or to drink back up. This was one of the reasons why hunter/Druid was such a pain to deal with, the hunter will drain you endlessly while controlling you just enough for their Druid to get away and stealth to drink.
Making me miss MoP so much with those shatter Frostbolt Ice lances. I wish at the very least I could glyph into the old animations, hate the newer ones.
Mop pvp was alright. But the rest of the game sucked arse compared to tbc.
@@octaviangeorge5455 I wouldn't know, I only got to level 28 before I had to quit because the 1GB prepatch update for WoTLK was too big for my monthly limit.
the pacing of Arena in TBC seems much healthier to build a game around.
Casters get rewarded with big damage but are forced to cast.
Melee has limited mobility but crushes you when they connect.
I think healers shouldn't oom as fast though.
Oh, and no damage off global...
Those two just burned their mana from dispeling also the current gear doesnt have alot of spirit so they dont really get much mana back atm once they get more gear and if theyre lucky to get their hands on some pve gear to combine with their pvp one they can get pretty good passive mana regen.
On my private server i remember mages and druids getting the swp healing staff and enchanting it with the mp5 enchant just to regen on swap if they oom.
@@wtbskilllololo i havent played TBC in about 12-13 years or whatever its been.. excited to see ppl min max like this
Now I realize why they reduced the size of the tomb in the middle. It kept owning Xar.
What i liked about TBC the most, is that it is probably an expansion where gear didn't matter at all if you are much more skilled than your oponent. I was at over 2k rating back then, and i was very proficient in duels, i had like 50 duels a day, atleast. I played mage, ofc. And there was this one mage on my server, he removed half of hes gear, in season 3, and he still beat me in a duel. He was that good. And with any other mage on the server, except one more guy, it was very close to beat them... But those 2 were so awesome. And when i was in World PvP, i could easy beat 3-4 guys solo, if they werent rly good... Don't know if there was an expansion where you could do that...
Also bear in mind that people were fucking noobs at this time (I was one of them), the average player of retail is today way more skilled than the average player 15 years ago
I think only Classic and TBC you were able to do that.
Considering that engineering has not been nerfed at all in those I believe.
@@CrystronHalq For the most part, it was nerfed in arena for TBC. Only belt enchant was available in TBC, but not sure if it remained active in arena troughout whole TBC... And engenering helm was OP.
Ok thats just delusional. Obviously gear mattered and mattered a lot. And it doesnt stop at stunherald.
@@rickroll9705 Ofc it did mattered. But, a player who is much more skilled could beat a player with much worse gear in TBC. You couldn't say that for, say WotLK, where gear mattered more. When you encountered a player of simmilar or equal skill, every point of spell power mattered. But, I am just saying that, if you were better than other ppl, you didn't need their gear to kill them...
Goddamn i miss TBC arena so much! This will be fun as hell OMG
I already cry every night because i can't decide what to play.
Another big reason why TBC Arena was much more special is the fact that arena frames don't show what spec your enemies are, so you're going into the game guessing and then it changes the game up, unlike in retail where you see their spec straight away while in the lobby and can plan a strat. The surprise element makes it way more special.
Retail it's just straight-up Rock, Paper, Scissors.
wrong now with new addons you can see enemy spec. Also in TBC there is only 1 spec viable for DPS classes. Rogue are ShS, mage are frost, warrior are arms, etc.
TBC is the real rock paper scissors for exemple mage/priest has 1% to win druid/warlock. Mage/rogue destroying war/heal, war destroying locks.. etc.
Tbc is fun but arena are jokes
I'm really liking your TBC content Xaryu! Thanks
why playing cone of cold rank1? Because of mana? i mean i get rank1 fb and blizzard rank1 for slow only, but isn't cone of cold dmg always worth it?
Watching you struggle versus that random warrior (dwarf btw) really brings retail into prospective
it's honestly funny that it's so different for retail players when they realise how mana is actually impactful
"When im invis i can see him"
"Where is he?"
Eeeh over there? XD
Xaryu how can you summon the mage pet and use its freeze at the same time? Something like
/cast summoninpet
/cast freeze?
I believe it’s
/cast summon pet
/cast !freeze
Tbc was the best. I was playing Paladin Back then. Reached 2.2k with Pala Rogue Lock back in S2. Good times. 10 years later here I am 3 kids, family, just watching these kids playing this and calling this weird, when retail version you get insta shot... Wow died In Pandaria, officially.
You do know there are insane bursts in tbc too right?
@@rickroll9705 nothing compared to the nonsense today. Having gladiator ranked players complaining about mana lol its a different world. The speed and intensity was much lower, but strategy played a long role. Who remembers warrior druid 2v2 mirror for 20+ min
@@bronzepodcast I definitely like the slower pace where strategy plays a bigger role and in this video there's no resilience gear, the live experience will have less ridiculous burst. As a rogue I loved the rogue/druid vs warrior/druid match up, games could drag out for long but it felt so rewarding when you won.
yo xaryu is fire mage viable spec in tbc areanas and im not talking pom pyro like DB fire mage?
mana burn is also a thing. I believe locks and priests can do it so a lot of the comps were about pressure and having your priest or lock mana burn the shit out the healer and they literally can't do anything thing because they are burning through their mana trying heal and burning mana through mana burn. its stupid.
regardless the first game: At start u should go on priest so u frost nova war and priest, and u blanked cs priest right away so he cant dispel his nova and wars nova and u sheep him into shatter on war cuz he has no rage to reflect (lose 10 while stance changing + 20 for the reflect) if he does - u just icelance and zerg him since priest is sheeped - into resheep/fear while ur priest helps u dmg war... next is situational, also u did not use clearcasting for like arcane missile which goes behind pillar and costs alot of mana when u dueled the priest. Also once ure 70% mana u should use mana gem to top mana so u can get another one rolling earlier when ure about to be oom.
Love the vid. Good vibes and I’m really interested in tbc actually! Gonna be fun.
i wanna see UAlock/rshaman or UAlock/rdruid old times
Ain't more bizzare than than seeing a monk for the 1st time!
I dunno, I'm looking as foward to TBC as the next wow afficionado, but judging by the comments people might be wearing a rose-tinted goggle or 2 right now.. TBC arena was infamous for being remarkably imbalanced. I mean, great if you're a rogue/rdruid, probably not so much if you're one of the more unfortunate classes. It's FUN, but there's definitely classes and then there's classes.
i mean is that even an issue, its like that in melee and people are still pushing that game
love the content, looking forward to playing tbc arena!
So much more appealing this pvp compared to retail. I miss it haha
My goodness. Warriors need to learn Spell Reflect is a thing...that second fight should have been over on that long ranged Freeze into a Shatter.
He didn’t have rage for it u can even see him defensive stance spamming his macro but missing rage, u can blame him for not using blood rage, but he might not be used to it yet or have it on cd
Why was the priest able to dispel nova after you blanket cs? He didn't even get the debuff?
priest have silence resistance talents
The games will change a lot once resilience comes into play, many of those burst plays won't be doable
I don;t know yet how it feels playing arena from 200x version of game but i can say it;s interesting to watch.
basically dampening wasnt necessary in TBC
also i think 99% of comps where druid + rogue/warrior because of mana issues
Why would mana not be a thing?
I'll be SL/SL with a resto druid again 😂
Thats a good comp
If they don’t add a time limit...you better be prepared 🤣
Bm hunt + Rdru is endgame comp Slsl is just too slow and fights take 25mins xd
Exactly, its about mana not health. So weird, but kind of interesting at the same time. So much better in this version of arena than live. So much less rng bs.
imagine whether your playing tbc or retail you going into an arena and see your fighting xar and pika it’s like two raid bosses bearing down on you
1:24 wait wtf was that? :D 31% then 100% then 26% in 0.1 sec:D visual bug?
As a new player I enjoy watching TBC than retail coz it’s easier to understand also retail is hard to follow
Mage 1v1 against good priest on pillar is almost always a mana game. Wait for water ele cd and send the pet while you drink. Go ham after mage has huge mana advantage. Works 99% of the time back in the days.
Removal of stun procs was one of the best changes brought by Wotlk
In tbc u have 5 to 6 icons shows on buff and debuffs. Retail have 9999999 icons and half of it people dont know what fukng icon is that.
There are less icons and buffs in retail than tbc the f you talking about. Mages in TBC alone have 3 more buffs then retail.
Imagine mana being a thing for mages in live.
There are things called arcane and spellsteal
LOVE TO SEE YOU IN TBC!
Wait he isn't running Winter's Chill? That's borderline trolling on TBC. Winter's Chill is like one of the best talents Frost has. 5 stacks of Winter's from a single Rank 1 Blizzard can run people out of mana so quick while they waste 4 to 8 globals (based on class) scrambling to dispel a poly or a nova masked behind a billion other debuffs. Same logic as Triune. Protects ur important bits.
Also was funny seeing that Rogue tryna style on Pikaboo, it's a pretty common thing to try to open vanish sap the enemy Rogue out of stealth. When it happens it's insane, but u never risk that against a RM rofl.
nice to see a video where you and pika are not flaming each other like crazy xDD
He 1v2'd that war/rogue not only without ice armor, but no armor at all.
I was about post a wall of text then I said cba and go with this only: "Check these content creators videos about Classic and SL and then ask what they think now". You will literally hear: OMG - SO FUN - HAVENT ENJOYED THIS MUCH BEFORE cheers all over and yet they got bored after 2 months. Guess what will happen after a few months of TBC release ?
I'm interested to see these players contend with people who have been practicing on private servers for years
the shatters hit so hard
I can't wait to mana burn as a priest, it was so much fun!
Chann playing Lock/priest in 2s and is just mana burning casters 😂
That’s exactly what high rated locks should be doing, draining mana over draining life
@@MILLERA12345 ye, I just find it funny that some people think arena will be better in tbc
@@Shaman5EUSK i think i just manaburned everything back then
"we're making it work" lmao >.
Just wait till Pikaboo gets his hands on combat mace stun spec rogue. Rofl its gonna be overrrr.
Use your wand.
Seriously.
It saves your mana, cds, and keeps them in combat.
The person who ooms last wins -- the wand is your friend.
Man is definitely a thing here my friend :p .. welcome to the real wow!
Jesus those 3k frost bolt
You did the 1v2 with no ice armor either
I wanna see smth vs lock druid :D
Always giving a like before even watching. Support my boi
4:46 lmfao I thought that rogue’s name was Dicksaw
Arena was so much better because it lasted 30-40 seconds. Short matches are way more fun to watch and to play
Looks waaaay too slow,but im intrested how the top of the ladder will look with heroes from pservers that been phew phewing this for last 12 years
*MAIN TBC Xaryu !!!*
Mana, the OG dampening.
I remember all I gotta do in TBC was to press mana burn as a priest
Xar looks kinda like Jokerd nowadays :>
1:13 ''bruh''
Looking forward to tbc, but even more to wotlk.. :D
omfg poggers ez rank 1 for little xarye inc
ah the good old times when everybody goes oom
Yes, mana is a thing, as it should be, otherwise why to have it?
Wait till you run into a lock- drain mana all day
you dont "realise" bru , you discover TBC , not the same ;)
Surprisingly you didn't face a single lock !
This is the mage expansion. Any adjective that isn't OVERPOWERED, xar will use to describe his class this expansion, watch 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Btw not a dig, but kinda a dig
when mana matters pvp is better simple as that. Ever since they went away from that pvp has never been the same
Tbc its a mana game and who has the best pve gear thats all
I think TBC is gonna make a lot of people quit WoW altogether. For the same reasons Mitch quit streaming.
how is your keyboard possibly making so many sounds when you have maybe 12 buttons that you actually use lmao
he has his ui set where u cant see a lot of his keybinds he uses 20+ keybinds
Xaryu looks like luigi.
It's like a chess match.
TBC > ALL it’s always been that way.
God mage looks so easy to tbc! I hope everyone rerolls mage.
Inb4 you're a lock who just wants to have more mages to mana burn
Burst won't be this ridiculous because of resilience
i hear weird game but that was my normal lol
Priest need lots and lots of spirit.
why do u talk in the third person in ur title bro ? ^_-
"This whole game is bixar."