Updating all old maps would be the best update to ever exist and could potentially revive the state of FE2 entirely. I do have another suggestion to follow up the updated maps suggestion where there will be another mode called "Old school." It's probably not a good name but it takes place in 2022/2021 where you can play the maps in older versions. Quite similar to Retro mode.
Forgot to mention Retro Mode as it would contain most of the maps that have been revamped in FE2: Rehydrated. "Old school" could work for those that are not in Retro Mode.
@@just_ducky Yeah because retro mode takes place in 2018. There are loads of maps added after 2018 that also have a rehydrated revamp. So I think it could be really useful.
The ones I agree with the most are definitely the lobby and map revamps. I think that all of the old maps should have their fe2022 maps replace them (especially lost desert, lava tower, and gloomy manor) Also some map remakes that they haven’t done yet but I really want them to do are poisonous valley, wild Savannah, sedimentary temple, and beneath the ruins
I know Sedimentary Temple is getting remaked, but honestly all of these maps should be remade. The only map from pre-2019 I think doesn't need one is actually Sedimentary Temple.
Glad to see my suggestions highlighted in the vid, thx! btw, I submitted another idea in the form. Edit: also forgot to mention, the slide blockade is such a cool twist to it, can't believe I didn't think of that!
:) I'll look at all the submissions another time, probably won't use many of them for a while though. Also yeah, it was a no brainer when writing up these suggestion ideas to include a slide blockade, especially given I already planned to rework it.
i do see the rehydrated thing working, i want it so badly. just a quick note that the map creators of the OG should give permission OR already are a part of a rehydrated map, because it would kind of be bad for the original person to not get credit, and have THEIR map completely taken out without any say.
Oh yeah, of course permission should be granted if possible (although a few creators may be inactive). I'm pretty sure the project itself credits the OG creators anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue.
The momentum on the slides would be absurdly broken, other people have prob said this already, but that could save so much time, and with practice, the slowdown wouldn't even be a problem, you could just cheese maps that are supposed to be hard. Everything else is good though
Feels weird to see you playing one of the Rehydrated maps but anyway, I agree with these suggestions. FE2 is becoming very dull, even with its highlight program still ongoing. The maps being highlighted every month feels very tired and samey now. There are a lot of ways Crazyblox can spice up things in the community and the game.
Yeah, in some respects the Highlight program is a net negative, because not only is it stale (even if I like the majority of the maps that get featured), it also leads to community drama after drama...
@@just_duckyThe dramas are really tiring as well. I can't help but think that unique community events can benefit the game more. For example, Crazyblox can host an event where a group of developers gathers together to create a map in a certain amount of time while competing with other groups of map makers making maps under the same theme. The group that makes the best map is the winner and receives rewards like Robux. It's a little similar to Castle Of Calamity, made by 70 map makers in 24 hours. Or he can make in-game events like the Forgotten Tombs Labyrinth event years ago. (disney12 also recreated it in his Forgotten Tombs remake in the Rehydrate Project.) Heck, for example, in Sedimentary Temple, you pull a lever and a different path opens for you to go through the map and you complete whatever quest that has been set for you. Variants come to mind. Each map should have at least 5 variants in order to keep the gameplay fresh. (Surprised you didn't mention Familiar Ruins 2023 in the video during the gameplay of Runic Maze. /j)
@@kiwiabrainlessfruit5792 You're talking about walljumps (the FE2 mechanic) right? Walljumps don't preserve your speed so I don't really know how a momentum walljump would work.
[IDEA] You know how every weekend there is the special double XP event that lasts for the duration of the weekend? Well this falls in line with what I am about to say. What if XP boosts are not just for the weekend? Maybe XP boosts are rewarded alongside with the gems you gain from completing challenges? I think XP boosts or coin boosts could be a really cool feature! It would definitely gives rebirth x15 grinders more the reason.
@@turtleavenger So, its two (or more) buttons that trigger the exact same thing. For a better idea of how it works, go to 12:17 and look at TRIA's "Path Buttons". Notice how pressing one activates all three? That's how they work.
I searched TRIA's wiki for zipline leaning but couldn't find anything - also not sure if I would want it in the main game but I guess it could be cool. Didn't know about standing on ziplines though.
If you put too many variants it can ruin the sight reading too much and make players hate the map. If you are like I am, I play FE2 maps by muscle memory and advanced memory.
This is fair, and I don't want many maps to be majorly affected by variants (maybe a couple) but I still think a short portion of the map is a fair middle ground that adds more variety to maps.
I see what you mean, although it is slightly different from TRIA's wallrunning as you can control your movement. With wallruns, you're automatically moving in the given direction.
@@just_ducky but again, this could completely eliminate the problem you mentioned with bm's and some other map's walljumps because the physics change would only be subject to a specific type of walljump
I'm against sliding speeding you up and adding fe2022 maps to the game. If you speed up while sliding, you can practically cheat in some crazy and crazy+ maps and become early very easily. Next, adding fe2022 maps to the would completely smite the classic creator's work from the game. "Yay! its my dream to make it into fe2 I can't believe I did.", "bro what is this map? it has better visuals than mines but my work is completely removed from the game.". Other than that, I do not agree with these recommendations as much as part 1, but they are still great recommendations and would not mind to see them in the game.
About the FE2: Rehydrated thing, the project itself credits the OG creator when you load the maps, and ideally permission from the OG creator to add the revamp into the game. I know the sliding changes would require a LOT of balance changes to work out. This was admittedly a bit unclear in the video, but when you slide faster initially it also takes a while to stop, meaning that you have to be careful when you use it.
@@just_ducky I feel like sliding should stay the same, while speedslide will exist in form of predetermined area like walljumps. This should solve the problem of unintended routes/optimization appearing, and will not cause a moments like when you wanted to air dive on slope and stay but you got flinged instead.
I take your point, but there wouldn't be a big difference between them so it may as well just be a customizeable feature that map makers can turn on and off.
Ur slide idea is good but it has flaws, tria has a simular thing and nobody uses it because you can save so much more time the game would become a slide simulator
Don't get me wrong, the slide would be powerful but I don't think it would be broken. This wasn't clear in the video (this is my fault) but when I say "you slow down then stop", this is a slow process meaning that if you don't use it right it will slow you down substantially.
@@just_ducky still the tria thing is actually so broken it would also make maps like RJ free because every jump would be easier, slope idea i really like tho
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(13:10 tria allows for custom liquids which also applies to gas & has walk/jumpboosts as base mechanics)
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Updating all old maps would be the best update to ever exist and could potentially revive the state of FE2 entirely. I do have another suggestion to follow up the updated maps suggestion where there will be another mode called "Old school." It's probably not a good name but it takes place in 2022/2021 where you can play the maps in older versions. Quite similar to Retro mode.
Forgot to mention Retro Mode as it would contain most of the maps that have been revamped in FE2: Rehydrated. "Old school" could work for those that are not in Retro Mode.
@@just_ducky Yeah because retro mode takes place in 2018. There are loads of maps added after 2018 that also have a rehydrated revamp. So I think it could be really useful.
Sucks that crazyblox probably won’t do any of this ☹️
@@Chaos_Dev :(
the amount of ideas/suggestions youve got is insane, havent finished the video yet but still amazing work!
I still have more.
I resonate with this points quite strongly. These are good suggestions.
Love the video! Really left us thinking about the possibilities of FE2 with much more than it is now.
Yes, you could do a lot with these ideas lol.
The ones I agree with the most are definitely the lobby and map revamps. I think that all of the old maps should have their fe2022 maps replace them (especially lost desert, lava tower, and gloomy manor)
Also some map remakes that they haven’t done yet but I really want them to do are poisonous valley, wild Savannah, sedimentary temple, and beneath the ruins
I know Sedimentary Temple is getting remaked, but honestly all of these maps should be remade. The only map from pre-2019 I think doesn't need one is actually Sedimentary Temple.
@@just_ducky yea tbh out of all of those maps sedimentary temple probably needs it the least but it would still be cool lol
the sliding down tilted parts is already a feature but just to prevent skips like climbing up meshes to skip
I see what you mean, but the slide is still set to last a certain amount of time, this would need to be changed of course.
Glad to see my suggestions highlighted in the vid, thx! btw, I submitted another idea in the form.
Edit: also forgot to mention, the slide blockade is such a cool twist to it, can't believe I didn't think of that!
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I'll look at all the submissions another time, probably won't use many of them for a while though.
Also yeah, it was a no brainer when writing up these suggestion ideas to include a slide blockade, especially given I already planned to rework it.
i do see the rehydrated thing working, i want it so badly. just a quick note that the map creators of the OG should give permission OR already are a part of a rehydrated map, because it would kind of be bad for the original person to not get credit, and have THEIR map completely taken out without any say.
Oh yeah, of course permission should be granted if possible (although a few creators may be inactive). I'm pretty sure the project itself credits the OG creators anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue.
@@just_ducky gustforce quit like 6 years ago (the guy who made your favorite jumpless map)
The momentum on the slides would be absurdly broken, other people have prob said this already, but that could save so much time, and with practice, the slowdown wouldn't even be a problem, you could just cheese maps that are supposed to be hard. Everything else is good though
True. While I didn't have balancing in mind, I'm sure there would be a way to balance it somehow. That is on me though.
Feels weird to see you playing one of the Rehydrated maps but anyway, I agree with these suggestions. FE2 is becoming very dull, even with its highlight program still ongoing. The maps being highlighted every month feels very tired and samey now. There are a lot of ways Crazyblox can spice up things in the community and the game.
Yeah, in some respects the Highlight program is a net negative, because not only is it stale (even if I like the majority of the maps that get featured), it also leads to community drama after drama...
@@just_duckyThe dramas are really tiring as well. I can't help but think that unique community events can benefit the game more. For example, Crazyblox can host an event where a group of developers gathers together to create a map in a certain amount of time while competing with other groups of map makers making maps under the same theme. The group that makes the best map is the winner and receives rewards like Robux. It's a little similar to Castle Of Calamity, made by 70 map makers in 24 hours. Or he can make in-game events like the Forgotten Tombs Labyrinth event years ago. (disney12 also recreated it in his Forgotten Tombs remake in the Rehydrate Project.) Heck, for example, in Sedimentary Temple, you pull a lever and a different path opens for you to go through the map and you complete whatever quest that has been set for you. Variants come to mind. Each map should have at least 5 variants in order to keep the gameplay fresh. (Surprised you didn't mention Familiar Ruins 2023 in the video during the gameplay of Runic Maze. /j)
I have an idea for the slide physics; walljumps maintain your momentum, same with ziplines and the like.
Not really sure how that would work as walljumps put you at a standstill until you jump off them.
@@just_ducky momentum wallruns?
@@kiwiabrainlessfruit5792 You're talking about walljumps (the FE2 mechanic) right?
Walljumps don't preserve your speed so I don't really know how a momentum walljump would work.
@@just_ducky idk I'm spitballing
[IDEA] You know how every weekend there is the special double XP event that lasts for the duration of the weekend? Well this falls in line with what I am about to say. What if XP boosts are not just for the weekend? Maybe XP boosts are rewarded alongside with the gems you gain from completing challenges? I think XP boosts or coin boosts could be a really cool feature! It would definitely gives rebirth x15 grinders more the reason.
Pretty cool idea. If you can, add it to the Google Form (it reduces the chances of me forgetting!)
9:23 i do not get the purpose of that button... I agree with everything else though
Its to encourage and reward exploration around the map, OR to add a trade off in the map (eg: wasting time for easier platforming)
@@just_ducky ah I see. Could you explain multi buttons more clearly?
@@turtleavenger So, its two (or more) buttons that trigger the exact same thing. For a better idea of how it works, go to 12:17 and look at TRIA's "Path Buttons".
Notice how pressing one activates all three? That's how they work.
@@just_duckyAh thank you
Is there any server or website where I can see the "Rehydrated" maps that are being worked on? Kinda wanna try the updated versions of classic maps.
They are on the Crazyblox Games Discord forum.
tria also has zipline leaning and standing on ziplines
I searched TRIA's wiki for zipline leaning but couldn't find anything - also not sure if I would want it in the main game but I guess it could be cool.
Didn't know about standing on ziplines though.
If you put too many variants it can ruin the sight reading too much and make players hate the map. If you are like I am, I play FE2 maps by muscle memory and advanced memory.
This is fair, and I don't want many maps to be majorly affected by variants (maybe a couple) but I still think a short portion of the map is a fair middle ground that adds more variety to maps.
2:20 why not just make it an entirely new object like tria does?
I see what you mean, although it is slightly different from TRIA's wallrunning as you can control your movement. With wallruns, you're automatically moving in the given direction.
@@just_ducky but again, this could completely eliminate the problem you mentioned with bm's and some other map's walljumps because the physics change would only be subject to a specific type of walljump
@@shiftthegamr Yeah, I see. Either my suggestion or a suggestion similar to this works, they would still have the same functionality.
"No map can be updated once it's added"
Agility update: *Ahem*
The "Locked in" policy was introduced in early 2023. Agility mechanics were added in early 2021.
@@just_ducky it was a joke lol
@@Charles-xe4ow My fault, didn't see it lol.
I'm against sliding speeding you up and adding fe2022 maps to the game. If you speed up while sliding, you can practically cheat in some crazy and crazy+ maps and become early very easily. Next, adding fe2022 maps to the would completely smite the classic creator's work from the game. "Yay! its my dream to make it into fe2 I can't believe I did.", "bro what is this map? it has better visuals than mines but my work is completely removed from the game.". Other than that, I do not agree with these recommendations as much as part 1, but they are still great recommendations and would not mind to see them in the game.
About the FE2: Rehydrated thing, the project itself credits the OG creator when you load the maps, and ideally permission from the OG creator to add the revamp into the game.
I know the sliding changes would require a LOT of balance changes to work out. This was admittedly a bit unclear in the video, but when you slide faster initially it also takes a while to stop, meaning that you have to be careful when you use it.
@@just_ducky I feel like sliding should stay the same, while speedslide will exist in form of predetermined area like walljumps. This should solve the problem of unintended routes/optimization appearing, and will not cause a moments like when you wanted to air dive on slope and stay but you got flinged instead.
@@4rtstellar Thats not a bad idea, the only problem is properly indicating that to players.
These could be possible if crazyblox hire a dev.
That probably won't happen though :(
@@just_ducky very true my king
Instead of updating walljumps with these ideas, why not create a new thing that does that?
I take your point, but there wouldn't be a big difference between them so it may as well just be a customizeable feature that map makers can turn on and off.
WE NEED WALLRUN BADLY
Ur slide idea is good but it has flaws, tria has a simular thing and nobody uses it because you can save so much more time the game would become a slide simulator
Don't get me wrong, the slide would be powerful but I don't think it would be broken. This wasn't clear in the video (this is my fault) but when I say "you slow down then stop", this is a slow process meaning that if you don't use it right it will slow you down substantially.
@@just_ducky still the tria thing is actually so broken it would also make maps like RJ free because every jump would be easier, slope idea i really like tho
@@RubenrobinE I mean TRIA physics isn't a bad thing if it makes the game more polished, even if it makes the game easier.
@@just_ducky it could be added but it should be like in tria where you can turn of it.
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In your walls.
@@just_ducky
Thanks for making me uncomfortable
this is a comment that exists
My opinion is invalid? Time to unsubscribe 😈
nooo dont go!!!
@@just_ducky alright fine but I want to see better next time.
We all know castle tides is the best map of all time
@@Chaos_Dev yes