Popcorner: i have to drop batch size with the winter season. What it 'feels' like can be confusing. Drop at about 4:30. A gram makes a big difference. You have to consistently try a few roasts and get a pace going. Glad to know i can use ~6 oz. in the Behmor if i need a little more bulk.
With such a small roasting capacity of a popcorn popper, every gram will make a big difference. The Behmor can happily roast 8 ounces all day long for almost all profiles.
Interesting. So you are toggling the fan and can turn it on or off anytime you like? Wow, that is really nice. I can already see how that could be used regardless of the profile. How long have you been using that? How are you using the toggle (examples) if you care to share. Thanks for watching and for being a subscriber.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab on the one pound setting, I bounce back and forth with the p buttons to maintain temperature. After the 10:30 mark, I leave at full power and toggle the switch to maintain temp around 315-320 degrees. Between the 8:30 - 8:00 minute mark I flip the switch to constant on and roll into first crack. Also purchased a rheostat to see if I can vary the fan speed instead of just on/off. Have not tried it out yet. The toggle is working well.
very nice. Thanks for sharing. I would be interested in seeing some pics of your setup if you are willing. You can connect with me on my Virtual Coffee Lab facebook page. Thanks again.
Big fan of the channel, i have been learning alot from your videos and your very entertaining to watch. Im starting my roasting journey and im hoping to get really good at roasting light and fruity
Thank you for watching my video and for being a subscriber. I have posted the recipe for this Behmor roast on my Buy Me A Coffee Extras page here: buymeacoffee.com/virtualcoffeelab/e/283524. It is free to download.
Good video Mike. I like this style where you narrate the process while the video footage plays. I’m still keeping on with my M1, and I always look forward to my coffee roasting sessions. I hope you are doing well. Edward.
Hello Edward. Thanks for watching and checking in. I'm glad you like the format. By the way, do I owe you an email? I've been crazy busy lately. Roasting anything interesting lately?
@@VirtualCoffeeLab I don’t think you do. Well it’s good to be busy. I’ve taken up another hobby as well, woodworking. Just another money pit. My wife complains that all my hobbies require significant investment and take up too much room, and are heavy. I’ve got a couple of Ethiopians mostly roasted to an Agtron in the low-mid 60’s (medium) and a HueHue to a solid medium to dark (Agtron in the 50’s) for espresso. I’d really like to find a nice bean where I can tease out the distinct fruitiness flavours and I’ll probably try to aim for a lighter roast like you did in this video. I’ve also revisited my DiFluid and the app and tweaked my recipe a bit thanks to your comments.
Hobbies are a nice way to learn and express our creativity. I've scratch built radio controlled airplanes. So, some woodworking as well as getting to fly them. Let me know how your light roast goes!
It's worth noting the cycle time on the heating elements for the Behmor is something like 15 seconds, so changing from P5 to P4 actually might take as long as 15 seconds before the heater turns off. With good timing you can simulate 82.5%, 62.5% etc. by changing the setting back and forth. Opening the door as you did is a good way to make a more rapid change to the temperature. I started with the Behmor 1600 in late 2007 or early 2008, upgraded to the Plus as soon as that was available and kept active with it until just this year when I purchased a Skywalker from ITOP on Aliexpress. My initial experiences with the SW lead me to believe the Behmor is no longer going to be active for me. I've added an Arduino to the SW and can now control with Artisan to supplement the standard timings.
Hi Bill. Thanks for sharing your experience with the Behmor. That's pretty cool. Congrats on the new roaster. The Skywalker uses IR light for heat right? is the drum metal or glass?
@@VirtualCoffeeLab yes, it's a steel drum with a central heat source, so you are heating the beans instead of heating the drum and letting the drum heat the beans. Very similar to the Behmor in that respect, which is the primary reason it can do it's thing on a standard household power circuit. It's about the same weight as the Behmor and a little more compact. I put mine on a rolling cart to better place a laptop next to it so I can monitor with Artisan, though that takes a minor mod between the roaster and the control panel.
Hi Mike. With reference to the Skywalker, are you planning a review on it. As far as budget roasters go is appears to be a potential game changer. Tony.
@@tonyhargreaves5009 Hi Tony - sorry I missed this message. If someone sent me the skywalker to use I would review it. Otherwise I would have to pay for it myself and I don't have the funds to do that. There seems to be several variations of this roaster. Almost seems like there all made in the same factory??? Is there an official distributor in the USA or an official website to contact?
Hi Chris, thanks for watching and for subscribing to my channel. Welcome to the home roasting hobby! I did a video which highlights the artisan connection. I believe you will find links to the various products used to connect including the phidget and probes. The probe i used in this vide is different. It was given to me from a roasting friend and I don't know which one it is. Also, this drum was modified by him and is not the same drum/cage you will see in the behmor artisan video found here: ua-cam.com/video/jm5MsA8poJs/v-deo.html
I think you mentioned drum speed here but you didn't change it from the slow speed throughout the roast. What effect does drum speed have on the roast process?
Hi Gary. Actually, I changed it twice. The first time I actually slowed it down by mistake. Then a little later I turned it back up. For traditional drum roasting, drum speed can be used to promote convective heat transfer. By increasing the drum speed, the beans are “lofted” and spend less time with conductive heat transfer (touching hot metal or beans ). The other factor is the Behmor light. Dragging the beans higher up the drum wall with a faster drum speed allows more exposure to the quartz light. At least in theory. This would help speed up the roast.
Wanted to check out your roast profiles up for the Aillio bullet. I think I've only seen you do one on your channel? Have you done a few more since then? Wanting to roast a Kenya soon and trying to decide on a good profile for Max fruit and flower.
Thanks for your message. I just tested the link on the buymeacoffee.com/virtualcoffeelab/e/280615 page which worked fine. When you click the link to see the profile, it takes you to Aillio's public site roastworld. If you are not logged into the site you will be asked to sign in. That is how their site works where the profile is shared. I'm sorry you had difficulty accessing the profile. The profile is of the Guatemala Huehuetenango I roasted in the video I posted here on youtube. I would like to roast more on the Bullet and hope to do so in the near future.
Can that probe trick also be done with a behmoore 2000 drum? Do both models use the same drum? Any idea if it’s a easy/straight forward hack for the less handy among us?
I have not seen a 2000 drum up close so I don't know. It seems like behmor only offers one type of replacement drum found here behmor.com/product/roasting-drum-cylinderone-only-per-person/ but you might want to email them to be sure. I don't know how easy it is because I didn't do the hack and drill the hole .
Too bad that light roasts on the Behmor require less initial coffee mass. I was looking into the 2000AB Plus as an affordable upgrade to my SR800 with a little less hands-on experience and larger capacity. But I only roast light. It seems there is a real blind spot for something to rival the SR800 (no pre-heating, quite direct control, great visibility, easy cleanup, good enough cooling,etc.) with a higher capacity (in the ~400/500g range) that is below 1k.
ou could consider the MagoMaga air roaster. It has a 300-gram capacity and can roast light. You may need to lower the charge weight a little. I have a couple of videos using the "pre-production" model here: www.youtube.com/@VirtualCoffeeLab/search?query=mago But since then, they have updated the roasters auto settings. I would do your research for the latest version of this roaster and make decisions based on that and what others have said. I have no experience with the latest version tweaks but i did have a good experience with the pre-production model.
Popcorner: i have to drop batch size with the winter season. What it 'feels' like can be confusing. Drop at about 4:30. A gram makes a big difference. You have to consistently try a few roasts and get a pace going. Glad to know i can use ~6 oz. in the Behmor if i need a little more bulk.
With such a small roasting capacity of a popcorn popper, every gram will make a big difference. The Behmor can happily roast 8 ounces all day long for almost all profiles.
Once again Mike a very good and instructional video
I still use my Behmor on smaller roast.
Nice. Thanks for the encouragement Shane. Enjoying your cooler weather?
I installed a toggle switch inline with my exhaust fan, helped me immensely. 👍
Interesting. So you are toggling the fan and can turn it on or off anytime you like? Wow, that is really nice. I can already see how that could be used regardless of the profile. How long have you been using that? How are you using the toggle (examples) if you care to share.
Thanks for watching and for being a subscriber.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab on the one pound setting, I bounce back and forth with the p buttons to maintain temperature. After the 10:30 mark, I leave at full power and toggle the switch to maintain temp around 315-320 degrees. Between the 8:30 - 8:00 minute mark I flip the switch to constant on and roll into first crack.
Also purchased a rheostat to see if I can vary the fan speed instead of just on/off. Have not tried it out yet. The toggle is working well.
very nice. Thanks for sharing. I would be interested in seeing some pics of your setup if you are willing. You can connect with me on my Virtual Coffee Lab facebook page. Thanks again.
Big fan of the channel, i have been learning alot from your videos and your very entertaining to watch.
Im starting my roasting journey and im hoping to get really good at roasting light and fruity
Thank you for watching my video and for being a subscriber. I have posted the recipe for this Behmor roast on my Buy Me A Coffee Extras page here: buymeacoffee.com/virtualcoffeelab/e/283524. It is free to download.
Good video Mike. I like this style where you narrate the process while the video footage plays. I’m still keeping on with my M1, and I always look forward to my coffee roasting sessions. I hope you are doing well. Edward.
Hello Edward. Thanks for watching and checking in. I'm glad you like the format. By the way, do I owe you an email? I've been crazy busy lately. Roasting anything interesting lately?
@@VirtualCoffeeLab I don’t think you do. Well it’s good to be busy. I’ve taken up another hobby as well, woodworking. Just another money pit. My wife complains that all my hobbies require significant investment and take up too much room, and are heavy. I’ve got a couple of Ethiopians mostly roasted to an Agtron in the low-mid 60’s (medium) and a HueHue to a solid medium to dark (Agtron in the 50’s) for espresso. I’d really like to find a nice bean where I can tease out the distinct fruitiness flavours and I’ll probably try to aim for a lighter roast like you did in this video. I’ve also revisited my DiFluid and the app and tweaked my recipe a bit thanks to your comments.
Hobbies are a nice way to learn and express our creativity. I've scratch built radio controlled airplanes. So, some woodworking as well as getting to fly them. Let me know how your light roast goes!
Thanks Mike, learning
Wonderful! Glad it is helpful!
It's worth noting the cycle time on the heating elements for the Behmor is something like 15 seconds, so changing from P5 to P4 actually might take as long as 15 seconds before the heater turns off. With good timing you can simulate 82.5%, 62.5% etc. by changing the setting back and forth. Opening the door as you did is a good way to make a more rapid change to the temperature. I started with the Behmor 1600 in late 2007 or early 2008, upgraded to the Plus as soon as that was available and kept active with it until just this year when I purchased a Skywalker from ITOP on Aliexpress. My initial experiences with the SW lead me to believe the Behmor is no longer going to be active for me. I've added an Arduino to the SW and can now control with Artisan to supplement the standard timings.
Hi Bill. Thanks for sharing your experience with the Behmor. That's pretty cool. Congrats on the new roaster. The Skywalker uses IR light for heat right? is the drum metal or glass?
@@VirtualCoffeeLab yes, it's a steel drum with a central heat source, so you are heating the beans instead of heating the drum and letting the drum heat the beans. Very similar to the Behmor in that respect, which is the primary reason it can do it's thing on a standard household power circuit. It's about the same weight as the Behmor and a little more compact. I put mine on a rolling cart to better place a laptop next to it so I can monitor with Artisan, though that takes a minor mod between the roaster and the control panel.
Hi Mike. With reference to the Skywalker, are you planning a review on it. As far as budget roasters go is appears to be a potential game changer. Tony.
@@tonyhargreaves5009 Hi Tony - sorry I missed this message. If someone sent me the skywalker to use I would review it. Otherwise I would have to pay for it myself and I don't have the funds to do that. There seems to be several variations of this roaster. Almost seems like there all made in the same factory??? Is there an official distributor in the USA or an official website to contact?
So tell me more about this thermo coupler and the fidget device. BTW I'm new to Behmor roasting I have 9 roasts in
Hi Chris, thanks for watching and for subscribing to my channel. Welcome to the home roasting hobby! I did a video which highlights the artisan connection. I believe you will find links to the various products used to connect including the phidget and probes. The probe i used in this vide is different. It was given to me from a roasting friend and I don't know which one it is. Also, this drum was modified by him and is not the same drum/cage you will see in the behmor artisan video found here:
ua-cam.com/video/jm5MsA8poJs/v-deo.html
I think you mentioned drum speed here but you didn't change it from the slow speed throughout the roast. What effect does drum speed have on the roast process?
Hi Gary. Actually, I changed it twice. The first time I actually slowed it down by mistake. Then a little later I turned it back up.
For traditional drum roasting, drum speed can be used to promote convective heat transfer. By increasing the drum speed, the beans are “lofted” and spend less time with conductive heat transfer (touching hot metal or beans ).
The other factor is the Behmor light. Dragging the beans higher up the drum wall with a faster drum speed allows more exposure to the quartz light. At least in theory. This would help speed up the roast.
Wanted to check out your roast profiles up for the Aillio bullet. I think I've only seen you do one on your channel? Have you done a few more since then? Wanting to roast a Kenya soon and trying to decide on a good profile for Max fruit and flower.
Thanks for your message. I just tested the link on the buymeacoffee.com/virtualcoffeelab/e/280615 page which worked fine. When you click the link to see the profile, it takes you to Aillio's public site roastworld. If you are not logged into the site you will be asked to sign in. That is how their site works where the profile is shared. I'm sorry you had difficulty accessing the profile.
The profile is of the Guatemala Huehuetenango I roasted in the video I posted here on youtube. I would like to roast more on the Bullet and hope to do so in the near future.
@@VirtualCoffeeLablink worked from your website, not from above for my android. No worries! Thanks for all your doing and learning with us
Can that probe trick also be done with a behmoore 2000 drum? Do both models use the same drum? Any idea if it’s a easy/straight forward hack for the less handy among us?
I have not seen a 2000 drum up close so I don't know. It seems like behmor only offers one type of replacement drum found here behmor.com/product/roasting-drum-cylinderone-only-per-person/ but you might want to email them to be sure. I don't know how easy it is because I didn't do the hack and drill the hole .
Too bad that light roasts on the Behmor require less initial coffee mass. I was looking into the 2000AB Plus as an affordable upgrade to my SR800 with a little less hands-on experience and larger capacity. But I only roast light.
It seems there is a real blind spot for something to rival the SR800 (no pre-heating, quite direct control, great visibility, easy cleanup, good enough cooling,etc.) with a higher capacity (in the ~400/500g range) that is below 1k.
ou could consider the MagoMaga air roaster. It has a 300-gram capacity and can roast light. You may need to lower the charge weight a little. I have a couple of videos using the "pre-production" model here:
www.youtube.com/@VirtualCoffeeLab/search?query=mago
But since then, they have updated the roasters auto settings. I would do your research for the latest version of this roaster and make decisions based on that and what others have said. I have no experience with the latest version tweaks but i did have a good experience with the pre-production model.