Which Prop Works Best? Solas Prop VS Stock Prop + 2021 SeaDoo RXTX Stage 1 | Project Barney jetski
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Today we make our Stage 1 2021 Sea-Doo RXT-X code name "Barney" A little bit faster! Let's experiment with different props and see which one will give us the best performance on our Calas Stage 1 RXT-X .
Lets see wha happen!
00:00 Calas Performance Intro
03:03 13/16 solas 3 Blade Prop
06:01 2021 RXP-X OEM Factory Prop
10:39 13/18 Solas 3 Blade Prop
14:47 The Regrowth Project
15:55 Pump Wedge Removed With Stock RXP-X Prop
18:40 With Pump Wedge Back on with 2021 RXP-X Prop
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Really feels like you're fighting the urge to say "We"ll see what happens!" Love this content! Thank you!
I hit 79 mph on my stock 2023 GTX-300 limited. Calm water, cold air, and low fuel definitely helped
OEM prop bent is perfect. Impros did a hell of a lot of work on my 2016. Back a while ago. I was stage 2.5. 81mph 8350
Awesome testing. Thanks
Great video Ernesto! It's been a while. Glad to see the enthusiasm. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for all that testing 👍
very intresting episode, thank you sir !!!
Good energy on the videos👍🏻
Great job!
The 21+ stocker definitely seemed the best. Although the solas 13/18 got the same top end it seemed like it took longer to rev out and the lower rpms kinda showed that. If you get the traction with the 13/16 it would probably shoot out the water but might have to think about valve train for the top end. What type of intake grate? Presume stock since your basing a lot from stock. Do the stock grates have a scoop in them like the AMs ones? Idk what SD has done with the stockers. I know Yamaha started to install a scoop style grate on the gp18rs I think in 19. Then I guess the question is if a scoop grate is installed and your getting that speed is the mounting area beefed up enough so the bolts don’t rip out like the 17/18 gp18rs? Can get yourself down a big rabbit hole very easily, lol. Great stuff, hardest working man at the boat ramp that day. Hope you get to ride with the gang.
I’ve been saying for a year and a half now that the 21+ RXPX impeller is a very good impeller for stage 1 tunes. With just an air intake, RXPX impeller, flame arrestor delete. and Riva 8500 RPM tune (targeting 8300-8400 rpm) I was able to hit 82mph GPS verified and saw 83 on the dash in April 2022.
Any experience with a race finished rxtx impeller by impros? I'm hearing it's close if not better than the 21+ rxpx impeller. Would be cheaper for me too (22 rxtx)
@@Mike-Rxtxteresting. I'm running my 19 rxtx OEM worked by impros and ribs about 80 with Riva stage 2 and love it in all conditions especially in the rough water, it stays hooked but was thinking to try the 21+rxp impeller even have it in hand to see if I can get some more speed out of my ski but not at the risk of losing the hook up. Where did you hear that from?
@gus13letter someone posted their personal experience, but they never mentioned if they had tweaked the 21+ impeller pitch for best results vs impros perfecting the pitch. If you end up doing the switch to do a comparison please let me know the results!
Hey what did you repeat your factory impeller too? I got a 2018 GTX limited. I'm probably going to do some modifications during the winter probably trying to get it to 80 mi per hr
Ernesto next time test this same two props the aftermarket solas 13/18 three blades vs the oem stock 4 blades RXP-X 2021 prop with the draggi to see with which one the RXT 300 accelerated quicker. What about testing the same ski with a aftermarket waterbox vs the oem stock one? This also should be a very interesting test 👍😉. The stock configuration exhaust vs the aftermarket single rear exhaust vs the new rear dual exhaust should be also a very interesting test. Thanks for the excellent videos.
The 1318 Solas definitely gets to TopSpeed faster than the stock 21 4blade as far as doing more test My biggest problem is time I have to work and pay bills that’s why we need to grow the channel so I can dedicate more time.
@@calasworld I was the first person to bring to our island of PR a 4 stroke personal watercraft. It was a Kawasaki STX-15 this was back in 2004 and also put a deposit and buy the first Sea Doo supercharged RXT 215 hp that arrived to our island with with a external intercooler this was back in 2005. In that time I owned both skis. The top speed of the stock RXT was only 64 mph in our local heat soak and high humidity tropical weather in salt water, then durring the breaking period after only a few hours of use it was completely modified with a Riva racing aftermarket Intercooler, a Riva flashed computer, a Riva high flow air intake, Riva racing valve retainer’s and installed a high psi aftermarket rude supercharged and a solas prop made by Impros. With this mods I break the 70 mph back in the day and my ski was the fastest all around our island. I never moded the Kawasaki because at that time there were none aftermarket high performance parts available for him. I also used to wrench in them before but I am retired from the hobby now.
Nice video! Very informative. To be clear is this just a stock 21 rxp-x with scom??
Excellent video! I currently run between the 13/16 and a 13/18 solas for closed course racing. The 13/16 does have cavitation out of the hole a lot more but does better in the mid range pull buoy to buoy on tight courses but in rough water you don’t get the hard pull and are always to close to the limiter, the 13/18 is an all around good choice as it doesn’t have as much cavitation has a better top speed and you can leave it wide open in rough water and it stays pulling hard. I have not tried the 4 blade or the pump wedge on mine but you now have me interested. For any one wondering for comparison, I have a 2017 full limited class built motor with Riva intake grate 17lb charger wheel and with a 13/16 see speeds of 81mph at 8,950 rpm and with the 13/18 I see 83-84 mph at 8,700 rpm. The13/16 is a lot more snappy in the right conditions however i feel it is only for a unique condition and it is not as good all around like the 13/18. As far as quality from solas I have used and repitched 5 impellers and have had no issues so far. Hope this helps, thanks again for the awesome content!
2017 RXP
I watched the Watercraft Journal having pwc JetSki SVHO Yamaha's and Sea Doo with their hull tools when it's might being changed with the news one's .
Nice video and lots of good information. To be clear is this just a stock 21 with scom?
Good info here! I have been in the market for a prop for my RXP. Also look forward to the video on HP tuners! I have been using HPT for over a year now. So far I’m at 81mph with a tune and intake only (with seat on and me on it at 210lbs). HPT works!
So with HPT you can reflash the oem ECU and copy that map to an other ski as well within extra charge ? Don you need license as well like on maptuner ?
@@Watercraftspecialist yes you can reflash the oem ecm. You have to buy credits from HPT for every new vin. But when you get the credits for that vin you can make changes and reflash as many times as you want. Which from what I hear it’s way easier than the maptuner process. And data logging with HPT is awesome!
561 🙏🔥
Need to test 13/18 & 21 with a draggy and see acceleration
My problem is time that’s why we need to grow the channel so I can spend more time doing this test
Hey bro, with these kinds of tests, you should use Dragy to know exactly which props accelerate faster than the other in a short time. Also, the level of the fuel should be the same.
I agreed my biggest problem is time I have to work and pay bills just like you guys that’s why we have to grow the channel
Another Great video . I forgot what prop I'm running on my 07 RXT . I know not the biggest or the fastest , but I give it hell 😃👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Have a great 4th of July weekend . 👍🏼 J. Austin Texas 🇨🇱 enjoying the Sea Doo Life
“Look darlin, it’s Johnny Rigo fastest jetskier ever they say” 🤠just remember when you start the race it’s “Say When” and when you finish and win it’s
“ Why Your No Daisy At All” love the name brother! Enjoying the weekend from up here in East Texas.
@@captainawesome5560 😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 have a great weekend 😄✌🏼
Nice video bro! I have the solas 13/16 four blade and that thing rips. I also have the Pump Wedge installed. When I finish tuning I will give you a call to see if I can go over there and hang out, you could also try mine on your ski to see if it gets any gains
What rpm are you turning up top?.. I’m leaning towards the same 13/16 for 8800-9000 and tuning out the cavitation with a l13 pump cone.. I’ve got a 135 and cam, and I’m mainly after the launch and midrange…
I’m so overthinking this impeller selection, so I’m reaching out to the incredible Calas community for some direction.. I really enjoy my ‘19Rxtx platform since new and tuning on it is my therapy.. I think I’m ready for impeller/pump tuning and looking for a impeller to start with. Riva 135 wheel and injectors, retainers, fizzle, thruhull exhaust, Riva intake, mapX tuned(8800 agr).. I have data logging ready and at 8400 it’s showing 82mph.. This is with the stock pump and impeller. I have solas 14vane pump and lucky13 tuning cone ready to go in, but I’m struggling with what impeller to start with.. Dean pitched a 13/20 for my Fx and it made a huge difference.. I also have springs/retainers and cam waiting to go in and I know that the whole combo will be dependent on the impeller setup.. target rpm is 8800-8900.. would pitching a 21 up RXP or solas be a better start?.
Solas
3 degree pump wedge ? 1 mph more !! I want to test with 13/18 just order wedge see if it really does a difference
Hey bud did you ever try the 13/18, and the result was??. Thanks.
@@marcioreis2648 yeah so I have the wedge but my ski decided to take a break I’m chasing problems so far I’m waiting on a new main harness see if it solves my starting issues I will definitely do a video on it since no one has done a pump wedge and 13/18 prop review
You don't think the wind is throwing off your testing ? I think it is. Hard to compare 2 runs unless there is NO wind at all.
2 or 3 degree pump wedge?
3
aren't those gauges from the 2018 model and from 19 and up its digital?
Yes you have to watch my other videos on that 21 Built
@@calasworld will do! Love your videos keep it up!
Good tests! Does the pump wedge effect hook up with the trim down on a buoy course?
It’s not good a buoy course because it lifts the nose up
Sharrow Propeller? I would be interested in those results
How can you tell if a customers jet ski has a tune in it?i get alot of machines that are older and changed hands and dont know the history.
A good clue is what injectors it has older than that it’s hard because there’s too many different flashes and software
3:06
13/16 is three brade？
four blade isn’t it？
4 blade
Feel your pain whether here change like this too 😂😂😂 defiantly interesting to see all those differences as it's hard but no one really explain how the pitch and the prop with same engine can make the difference on speed they all talk about rpmobut you can have more rpms and go slower or less and go faster but you never go faster at same rpms 🤔🤔 weird hey😂
I agree with you I pitch no more than 2 mm the efficiency of the prop goes away you will see a gain on RPM but not mph
3:10 that’s a 4 blade SX4 CD 13/16 not a 3 blade.
You sure about that?
@@DessiLu14 yes. Go watch the video and pause it when he has the first two impellers installed in the pump.
tengo una gtx 170 que impeller recomiendan para mejorar la velocidad
215 s3 hull with stage 2 here, looking for better holeshot was considering 14/19? will that lower or increase my rpm? it's cavitating + rpm limit under 4k rpm. would this be a good upgrade?
Thanks Ernesto great results on some 300 props here
Hey Calas I have a 2008 RXT-X 255 with 4 inch intake, free flow exhaust, catch can. What prop would give me best top speed and not lose too much acceleration. Also do you sell them
15/22 Solas
Can we get a chart with the results?
I was thinking the same thing for the next videos
yeah never put a pump wedge on a 3rd gen 21 gpr if you have a riva ride plate the nose is already sky high w the riva plate. i hitn 85 w trim nuetral, if i move it up all it does is porpoise / bounce .
Yeah
Saludos tengo un fish pro 2019 q propelas me recomiendan
Any issues with the SX-13/18? Heard it’s exploding with SS wear rings. Seems if left stock with oem plastic wear ring, it’s safe.
Is there any cons of adding a pump wedge to your ski? I have an rxtx 300 2022 and the most speed i’ve gone is 80mph but according to my tune i should be doing 82mph so maybe i need a pump wedge to get that extra mile or two. Im just wondering if theres any cons of having a wedge, as in turning, etc.
I think you will gain a few mph with a pump Wedge. It's not that expensive and easy to install
At 80 you not gonna have any issues
I dont really see everyones excitement for just 1or 2 mph....i wouldnt give 2 shits. Scom, catch can, sponsons, BOV is good enough.
I have a 2020 seadoo gtr 230 I changed the wear ring into stainless steel and now I want to change the impeller what the best size I have done jp performance rear intake and intercooler hoses with bov riva rear exhaust catch can and riva delete was thinking about getting riva tuner but it telling me to change my wear ring and impeller to smaller size I rather ask a Professional
Hola, alguien sabe las medidas del drive shaft de seadoo gti 130 (2014)
How fast was that 09 RXT gray that you had
75mph
Hey I was hoping you could help me out with at question about my 2015 rxt x260.
On the back right side of the bottom half there is a outlet that connects to a small rubber tube. I can't figure out what it's supposed to be hook on too ?. It came lose and I can figure out where it goes .
It sounds like is the intercooler air breather outlet?
Okie thank you ill take a look and see if I can find it
I looked but that's not it this hose is right beside the battery and it's at least 2.5 f long
What degree pump wedge are you using?
Witch one is better for my 05 RXT
Where can i get that wedge? 😮
Send me a message at calasperformance@gmail.com
Had anyone tried the twin prop impellers?
At this power level, it makes no difference
What upgrades can I do to make my 587rotax faster
Absolutley love these kind of videos! I am just a bit confused. I feel like every channel is pushing the solas 13/18 prop even though the results are showing rxpx 21+ is best one. Am I missing something? I have a 22 rxtx and am on fence about switching to SS wear ring + new impeller which is why I am so curious
Does a "Scom" void your warranty?
Ok so let’s be honest the factory 4 blade RXPX impeller is way better just because everyone in the pwc world knows that solas has a issue with there impeller blades breaking and wrecking a pump and more when it does this. I wonder what this impeller would do on the 16-20 rxpx300 because it seems that it’s hard to get that ski in the high 70’s as a stage 1
See my post in this section, when I had my stage 2, I was only seeing 75-77 this was also with the Riva Intake Grate, the RXT hulls as well as the new RXP hulls are a little faster but ours still out turn them every day of the week on a buoy course.
This was with a 13/18 solas
The Solas 1318 accelerates a little bit faster, then the factory Rxpx 21 and up 4 blade but they both got the same TopSpeed on my test that day
The stock 21 up rxpx is smooth though. The Solas 13/18 3 blade imo vibrate a bit. I prefer the stock rxpx one for that reason.
@@calasworld I wonder if tweaking the pitch of the RXPX impeller could improve on the midrange. Anyway great video I’m going to try and find a 21+ RXPX impeller for my 16 rxpx300 stage 1 to see the changes currently I’m at 75 at 8040 rpm
Hi what prop set up would you put on a stage 1 2023 GTI170 ?
Stock
Stock
Hey @CALAS WORLD can I put the newest stock rxp prop on a 2016 rxp?
Probably
el impeller origina de una rxp300 apex es mejor que un solas sx4 13-15? o cual recomendarían traer stage 3+
Ami me gusta la 13/18 solas
What is best for 2018 Seadoo Gti 155 all stock
Stock Prop. For that power level
Where could a fellow get one of these pump wedge sand how much would they be?
Email me at calasperformance@gmail.com
Sent you an email still waiting for a response
You use the water and you said you see the trash yet never mentioned you pick it up.lets do a better job of keeping the waters clean.
Agree I always stop and collect what I can especially bottle an balloons