Ah, no, Professor Sprout. We see multiple different instances of plant-specific safety gear being used in various books, for what is otherwise a pretty plot-irrelevant and ignored class. Hagrid is probably up there though, assuming we don't add in post-hoc explanations about how potions cauldrons have fume safety spells cast on their rims, or something.
@@lukec2004 Hm, true. Totally out of date, but true; now I'd like to think that muggle studies is more along the lines of Arthur Weasley crossed with Dr. Frankenstein. Doing science and magical bullshit beyond the realm of mere muggles, because they have perfect and infinitely advanced protective gear and scientific equipment in the form of spells. "Now pay attention class, the muggles are right on the cusp of building something to replicate this spell, called a particle accelerator; if you can tell me about what this might mean for muggle science in the future and be good through the rest of the lecture, we can go outside and experiment with it tomorrow. One page of muggle lined paper, a quick exploration of the topic; for those of you who forget, that's 10-11 inches. Oh, and don't forget that we're taking a field trip to a nuclear missile silo on saturday; if you don't show up by 10am and can demonstrate you know the assigned list of spells to hide yourself but let us talk to each other, I _will_ leave you behind."
A magic school could absolutely have powerful and dangerous artifacts, if it's like a RL university or something where research is done. Of course, those artifacts would be stored safely and securely in heavily restricted areas, and research would only be done by older students under proper supervision. Obviously.
Or they are normal magic items done as finals donated from previous students. However, if you combine a magic item with another, add some magic glue from potions class and an additional enchantment you get something really powerful. That way you can have a mystery after the theft of the first item up to them needing a room to finish the creation. Also, the students involved may be manipulated by someone in the background. The possibilities are endless.
I'm pretty sure James is talking about the school as a secret hiding place for bad stuff with no real precautions, as in the only thing really hiding the stuff is a most likely unknowing student body.
Hogwarts is actually somewhat unique in that it is a completely civilian institution. The students really are just kids being taught to enter the mainstream workforce.
Yep. After you graduate, people assume you’ll work in some department in the Ministry of Magic and any other occupation that doesn’t involve the Ministry is somewhat frowned upon.
@@yakirchernin6015 But girls can go into the boys' dorms, and even though they did comment on how a weird double standard this is, the option is definitely there.
@@yakirchernin6015 So it's a gay haven. Lucky for them. And other than that, Hogwarts has enough rooms and corners for kinking. Like this magic room which appears when needed.
JK Rowling had her hands tied early on with the Harry Potter books. Her initial desire was for the books to grow with the children, so by the time you arrived at the last books, there would have been more general swearing and sexual innuendo, such as the level you see in the films, especially with Ron. But the publishers pushed back hard on this, insisting that they stay strictly kid friendly.
Well, they do get darker anyway. And random swearing and innuendos would probably make them seem more childish, ironically. Not to mention nowadays kids can read Harry Potter with no breaks between books so it's better that they're more consistent.
i think this is a good call on the publishers part. my 9 year old nephew has read them more than once already. it would be bad if they started at his age level and then got to gruesome.
@@gordianplot9347 Oh, don't misunderstand. It wasn't going to get gruesome. Better to think of the swearing more like how it was in the movies, light and standard for teenagers. She wasn't planning on making them into full blown adult novels at the end.
I personally liked how a school like that was set up early on in The legend of the legendary heroes. Basically children and teenagers with no one to rely on forced to learn magic and become soldiers or starve.
Tabbye Lynne To be fair the ones trained for the X-Men were a select group from the pool of students there; they didn’t just take everyone’s kids and make them into weapons, only some.
Regarding Hogwarts student safety, I belive the students had to wear ear mufflers during botany class to proctect against the screams of alraunes. Neville didn't wear his and fell unconscious because of it. Also, nice vid :)
I like the idea of a magic “school” being closer to how Ancient Greece did philosophy. It’s essentially just a group who sit around someone who has a knack for it guiding them into a state of mind in which they can channel the magic more easily and then they can chime in with questions if they felt so inclined. More of a communal experience of individuals that a school in the modern sense
If it's post-secondary education then some powerful artifact is a bit more justifiable. I remember something in Digimon Tamers where a character said you wouldn't expect a bunch of college kids to be running the kinds of experiments they were involved in, but that's exactly who I would expect to be involved in that kind of research, because colleges are exactly where high-concept cutting-edge research tends to happen. That's kind of why colleges originally became a thing in the first place.
The Goblet of Fire movie strongly implies that various students from the three schools slept with each other. The deleted scenes include a teacher breaking up a...session in progress in a rocking wagon (Titanic style), and best of all, a VERY disheveled Neville Longbottom coming back to the dorm quite late the morning after the dance, shoes hanging from his neck, saying, "I just got home, Harry. Me!". His date to the dance was Ginny :) While Rawling could not publish anything like this, the fanfic community has..."filled in the holes in the narrative" ;)
Have any of you ever gave a thought to how KINKY magic can be? Seriously, I feel like lots of authors have really vanilla sex takes on settings that feature magic. The possibilities are really, really wild.
@@yakirchernin6015 I have a better idea that will scar you less directly, but give you an idea. Find one of the really weird furry porn sites (mainly because yeah, that is a place where things get really weird; no, I'm not a furry or anything, just a guy who's spent a lot of time on the internet) that allows almost anything content wise, and (intently ignoring any specific images) go and look at their tags list. Each weird one, think how easy it'd be to do it with magic, and combine it with other ones that you see. It's also highly likely that you'll discover at least a couple things about yourself, but that's the risk you take.
I'm writing a Magic school story set in another story that I'm writing (the magic school story is just to show off the magic system better since it's a small part of my main story) with the setting being modern America. One form of magic is based off Aleister Crowley's concept of Magick which is what he called the magic his sex cult did basically. I was also partially inspired by The Magicians series. Anyways, there's a lot that could be done with magic in general. Multiple Harry Potter spells could be used. Levitating with wingardium leviosa, using polyjuice to enact sexual fantasies (with a partner or oneself), even two of the unforgivable curses would be used Crucio (pain) and Portraits Ideas not from Harry Potter are: charming objects to move on their own, creating a pair of floating hands, summoning tentacles, animating inanimate objects (statues, dolls), turning someone into a catgirl/catboy or other animal people.
Why didn't they have sex? Who says they didn't? There were plenty of time skips that we don't see what is happening. I'd be more concerned if there was a sex scene in Harry Potter considering it would add nothing to the story and would be a waste of word count.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the upper classmen in Hogwarts had copious amounts of sex in the hidden nooks and crannies of the castle. But Harry is also about as perceptive as a brick wall and probably just didn't notice, especially since outside of stuff like the extracurricular activities, of which he only ever attended the Quidditch team, one session of Lockhart's dueling seminar and one session of Slughorn's weird favorites club, the separation between grades appears to be rather strict. Add to that the separation into houses and the curfews with Filch patrolling the grounds. You'd have to secretive about it. And of course he and his best friends were on the run from the government and the school was taken over by wizard Nazis in his last year.
It's no magic school, but Fire Emblem: Three Houses has a fantasy military school that has magic as part of the curriculum. It's also a monastery and kinda the Vatican of it's universe _and_ has a bunch of shady and dangerous things going on in addition to the whole "learning how to kill" stuff. And, you know, it's run by the church so there's a lot of religiosity going on. And a bit of racism too; the school was established to repel invasions from the east, so they don't like people from thereabouts. Aaaand the students are sometimes asked to hunt down heretics and other enemies of the church. But aside from all of that stuff it's kinda like Hogwarts. They even have houses, three of them in fact, with their own colors and animal mascots. And quirky professors, some of which may or may not be evil. And terrible security that just seems to let villains in the front door. And competitions, though they are all about fighting, or dancing, or fishing... there's a lot, really. So it's like Hogwarts if it was a church teaching kids how to fight wars. There's also more fucking around... with both the teachers _and_ the students... The Church of Seiros does not belive in celibacy it would seem.
@Aesthetic Decision The fishing is mostly to supplement teachers' salaries. It's a tough business, even when you aren't leading kids into battle. The dancing though, _is_ a fundamental part of combat. It's no exaggeration to say that wars have been won or lost over the art of dancing.
One thing I have always wondered about Hogwarts. These are kids. None of them complained or were unhappy about leaving their tech behind? Especially the muggle born and half muggle born who had TVs, computers, video games and later on (in the time of Harry and Co's kids, smartphones, tablets and handheld video games and the Internet)
0:26 You’re not entirely wrong, and I’m a Percy Jackson fan. The good thing is that the series itself isn’t a ripoff of Harry Potter. Most plot points actually happen outside of the camp and the camp itself is often just the starting point as a genuine safe Haven, which actually takes the title, Safe Haven, seriously and isn’t attacked 24/7. If something breaks into camp, it took either raw power and/or careful planning. On the series itself, it’s a great way to learn about the pantheon and the different gods and monsters
Additional point. I enjoyed the HP books growing up much like many others, but I have noticed the unspoken issue. All the problems of the HP world can be traced back to houses and house alliances. Children are shuffled into groups that are defined by vague characteristics and left to their own devices, it is even clear that adults within the series have not let go of their loyalty to these groups. JKR has addressed this issue once with Snape and Dumbledore, where the headmaster questioned if they sort too soon. This is an obvious hint to how people can change, Dumbledore acts more Slytherin while Snape develops bravery akin to Gryffindor. But the system doesn't allow these people to express themselves and thus causes more harm than good. There is a clear reason why the house system fell out of practice in the UK, it breeds herd mentality and prevents individualism. TLDR; Dont have houses in your magical school.
Or, if you do have houses, don't make them based on character traits and don't make competitions between them. I kind of like the way the Magicians does it, by having them effectively based on what the students' affinities are (though in the books affinities were said to be more akin to astrology than anything; in the show they were a bit more visible). There are also problems with this system, though.
or better yet, if you do have houses, don't sweep these problems under the rug and actually address the kinds of issues that they can cause and maybe have the characters in-universe comment more directly on it and try to address it.
Just finally getting into an academy in the story I am writing. On the surface it exists to develop talents, however, its real purpose is to help certain individuals who are perpetually reincarnating (for complicated story reasons) so that they have the resources necessary to quickly regain their power. The headmaster who runs the place is an ancient immortal bound to that goal, however, in order to maintain his body after literal thousands of millennia he is physically incapable of leaving the inner most chambers of the academy where he is kept alive by a masive mana well, at most he can project his will through magic around the academy, though there is a limit of his far he can reach. Of course he is also powerful enough that no-one could feasibly steal the mana, very much including gods. I am still figuring out the day to day life of students. My current idea is that the mornings are filled with lessons, however, after noon the place descends to survival of the fittest where under supervision students can fight for social status or extra resources, including credit. Meanwhile the academy also assigns students missions which involve leaving for prolonged period of time. The leaving part of probably going to be rather important to keep a long going story kind of fresh, so I figured that each year instead of summer holiday the students would be send out to accomplish their missions. Each class having different time periods for this as to have coverage all year long since the academy plays a major role in peacekeeping all around the world.
This has given me some ideas for my book, thank you! I have a magic using character introduced in the later parts of the story and hadn't considered their back story in much depth yet, so this is helpful.
8:16 I mean it is heavily implied that they do it after hours in hiding since It is likely not allowed.(in Half Blood Prince Ron and Lavander straight up go to an empty classroom to "smooch".
Magical Schools needed to be established as either a entirely different dimension that our own, or the World Governments know of the existence of magic and allows the studying of it. Magic School are cool on the surface until diving into the world-building, which is either extremely vague, or runs counter to the set rules of the world. As beloved as the Harry Potter series was it left several aspects of its world-building left behind for grand battles, but the amount of death and destruction that Voldemort left behind will have drawn the eyes of the British Government. The fact that several owls are seen flying across the England dropping their letters to Howgarts. Some of these Owls which aren’t native, should at least catch some red flags to natural conversations. In Deathly Hollow Death Eaters attack London which should have drawn attention, because of this is a similar world at the time, both police and S.A.S force would have arrived at the scene considering the amount of terrorists attacks were happening at the time. Magic in general in a modern world will create more problems for writers, which either they have to explain everything of how it works or doesn’t, or in most cases leave out and just focus on the Characters and Plots, which almost all authors tend to focus on.
The most unbelivable Part of Hogwarts is that, in seven years of attending, not ONCE did someone take Harry's glasses, put them on and told Harry how blind he is.
I don’t think Hogwarts has co-Ed dorms. They had a co-Ed common room, but there was a stair case that led to the boys’ rooms, and another that led to the girls’ rooms
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I think its pretty important to also consider if the school has any extra functions (or if its something else with school functions) - the White Tower is also the seat of power for all of the Aes Sedai, for instance - and that can shape the dynamic in serious ways.
I'm surprised there isn't that much of Wizard schools with bad students really. Or that is not taken humorisitically or more lightly. The only one I can name is the Unseen University.
I mean, kinda makes sense that the students would do relatively well, the motivation would be high since they have the opportunity to do something really awesome and also the schools usually only take talented or otherwise privileged kids that would generally do well anyway.
@@johannageisel5390 Well not anymore because in the Eight Spell, he finally get it out by spelling it's name backwards. Well, afterwards he went to the Dungeon Dimension, got freed by a young demon summoner and pretty much became a genie. Yes, I've read the entirety of Eric. Boy that was looooooooong
One Idea I had in the past, after watching pretty much all these magic school anime, studying in a pretty large military school, and missing that game Bully, was to have a game set in a magical college of some sorts, where the protagonist is a delinquent, and is always ditching classes to explore the school itself, which would be like a huge fortress-like dungeon full of contraptions and hidden rooms. Then I played Artificial Academy and had this idea of making it a sim as well, and the lroe was that it was after a "magical world war", kinda like an isekai version of the Napoleonic Wars or WW1, so it used to be a fortress, and the fact it has less students it was because...well...lots of deaths in the past. Given the more ecchi inspirations, my idea was to make it an Eroge as well. The idea was that every student had a secret related to one room. I can't code so... the idea never came to fruition.
This is my magic system, it’s called L’ndith /ləndiθ/, meaning “stone craft”: -L’ndith can have many potential uses, both necessary (transportation, medicine) and trivial (cosmetics, entertainment), but it is seldom used (usually only by elites and scholars) because it can be dangerous. L’ndith manifests itself through precious crystals, called khridhvel’nt /χriðvɛlənt/, roughly meaning “stones of wizardry” in the tolad /tɔlad/ language. Users summon l’ndith by properly reciting tolad incantations while making physical contact with khridhvel’nt. If used properly, l’ndith can help its users solve problems and give the user powers such as teleportation, healing, disguise, etc. -L’ndith is mostly used by elites and scholars, as they have the resources to obtain khridhvel’nt and learn incantations in tolad. Although extremely rare, a handful of individuals (regardless of class) are predisposed by birth to contain quantities of khridhvel’nt in their blood streams, which enables such individuals, called l’ndrogh /ləndrɔʁ/ (stone-blooded), to use (or be used for) tolad incantations without crystals. -Natural khridhvel’nt is a limited resource which is strictly guarded by henchmen who work for the elites. However, some scholars can secretly synthesize artificial khridhvel’nt by using fragments of natural crystals to convert other matter into it. Elites consider this conversion theft, and make attempts to persecute scholars and l’ndrogh for their usage. L’ndith can become addictive if used multiple times during a short period. For incantations, unrounded vowels require two khridhvel’nt (for height and backness) while rounded vowels require a third for roundedness; length and stress also warrant more. Voiceless consonants require two (for place and manner of articulation) with voice and ejectivity also warranting more. Users can be defeated by simply running out of it or using it incorrectly. -After being used for an incantation, khridhvel’nt quickly sublimate into an odorless, toxic gas which can cause temporary paralysis/vision impairment if inhaled (although this usually isn’t fatal and lasts on average temporarily for ten-15 minutes). Large scale sublimation can cause pollution and collateral damage to ecosystems. L’ndrogh are sought after and are particularly vulnerable to abduction/slavery for their natural abundance of khridhvel’nt. Criminals are often punished with harmful incantations (in addition to the temporary paralysis/vision impairment). Khridhvel’nt can be used to cure debilitating illnesses, but there is a price to pay; that illness must be transferred to another lifeform (usually to the aforementioned criminals). Anti-elitist possession of khridhvel’nt is often severely punished by the elites, who fear class mobility from its usage by lower classes. -Khridhvel’nt were created naturally by k’al’nv’t /kʼalənvət/, roughly meaning “paramount comets”, which impacted and their supernatural minerals became embedded within the ground. Eons later, the Tol tribes settled throughout the rugged landscape which was shaped by craters from k’al’nv’t. As the Tol civilization developed, farmers, paid laborers, slaves, and other workers participated in architecture projects and engineering endeavors, including construction, agriculture and landscaping. One day, according to legend, four Tol slaves were ordered by their master to explore a cave in search of fresh drinking water. One of them brought a torch so they could see through the darkness and deep within the cave, they discovered beautiful rock formations covered in crystals. After one of the slaves yelled in amazement, the unstable ceiling caved in and they were buried in an avalanche of crystals. They were wounded and crystal particles became imbued in their blood streams as a result. Only one of the slaves was still conscious afterwards and made cries for help. To his amazement, the stones surrounding his body sublimated and then he passed out from blood loss and the toxic fumes. Hours later, the four slaves regained consciousness in the cave and miraculously escaped from the pile of crystals. Their language, the Tolad language, was the first language ever uttered within the crystal’s vicinity, which triggered a mutation that only allowed the crystals understand Tolad. There may be undiscovered crystals that haven’t been exposed to Tolad and thus available for another language. They were physiologically altered by the crystals, it fused with their dna and several of their descendants became l’ndrogh from the khridhvel’nt dominant gene. After emerging from the cave, the four men used their new abilities to free themselves from slavery and become a quadrumvirate which would unite the Tol tribes beneath a federation. Their cooperation and even distribution of land to rule within the federation enabled an era of peace and prosperity for the Tol federation, which balkanized after their deaths. During the power vacuum, Tol elites usurped control of separate territories and became fiercely protective of the khridhvel’nt, often warring with each other over the crystals. Scholars were employed by the elites to study the khridhvel’nt so that elites could utilize their power. -Even today, l’ndith is strictly guarded by the elites and their henchmen, although its existence is no secret. Most people among the lower classes could benefit from khridhvel’nt but most wouldn’t dare try to obtain it from fear of severe punishments by the elites. Additionally, Tolad language resources are scarce beyond the elites’ mansions. Elites and scholars have established a khridhvel’nt society to regulate what Tolad words and phrases can be used for incantations. These approved incantations are recorded in a text called t’avdru /tʼavdru/ (meaning “the canon”), which is updated every year. Some rogue scholars illegally practice their own unapproved incantations. Although there is no particular set of clothing that distinguishes users, elites are (needless to say) the most well dressed of the classes and thus, fine linens and robes could possibly indicate usage. However, not all elites can be bothered to learn about khridhvel’nt or how to use it. Additionally, scholars, who are the most familiar with khridhvel’nt, are different from elites in that they generally prefer to stay away from attention. They often disguise themselves among the lower class, which also include some l’ndrogh. The lack of incentive to procure khridhvel’nt or resources to learn the Tolad language has made many lower class citizens indifferent to l’ndith. tl;dr: rich guys use magic crystals to do stuff sometimes.
5:08 Agreed, that was how we got Voldermort. On the topic of anime and high schools, there are quite a lot of series with specific high schools that would make sense in their world (such as Duel Academy from GX) unless the series is set in a completely realistic world with some fictional elements (such as Assassination Classroom). The only series with a sort of magical school that I know has no real importance outside of being a location for fights is Kill La Kill.
The purpose part is very important. In my work in progress, the main school was built to compete against public magic schools who only trained future soldiers and officials. It's a bit like SpaceX, pretty much the only non-government space stuff company.
In Chronicles of a Royal Pet (Royal Ooze Chronicles) the head of the magic school is a former Adventurer who completely restructured the way the magic academy educates the students because of the fact he learned from experience that all the flashy magic, which was the bulk of the education during his time of being a student there, was certainly impressive looking but also very lacking in most real-world application. The magic of this world also has clear negative effects for overuse, as a shown example in-story, if you overuse elemental spells then the backlash of their overuse will cause negative effects on the caster, for example, if you overuse earth-based spells it can cause slow petrification of the caster themself with each new use of earth-based spells without giving the proper amount of time to wind down from their use. It is also shown that magical aptitude, base power, and spell affinity vary between casters, some magic users show a lack of ability to make use of certain magics because of these factors. I recommend checking out the series when you can. I've also read some adult fantasy setting stories, the most notable being the Dark Dungeon series, where extended use of magic can actually have an effect the caster in a bit more of a more mature, less family-friendly, way.
Hey James, I noticed you keep looking down at your notes while talking. You can try to glue/tape them under your camara so you can still look up and read them out :)
I have a magic school in my world but none of the main characters actually go to it. Its essentially an elite priesthood of magic users who worship the spirits that control the magic dimension. The main character is able to discover magic on him own through his love of nature
How is it different from like a monastery. I guess they're kind of similar but magic highschool expects you to leave and be a better person while monasterys only teach in religion and you usually stay to serve as an example to the community, like a really long internship.
A lot of the problems with Hogwarts, I answered in my own story. For example, the school as a magical barrier that literally prevents anyone on campus from getting sexually excited. This same protection ward prevents students from casting spells that could harm them or others. The problem I have found is that making the setting too safe makes the stakes feel really low and it can be hard to create drama and build a plot. I don't want the school to be a hiding spot for some powerful item but JK Rowling going that route probably made it easier for her to structure the story around the school. I'm having trouble with my story because I want it structured around the kids learning magic at the school and being able to use what they learn to solve problems in unique ways. But with the school taking many precautions, I'm having trouble coming up with the problems that need to be solved. I have some loose ideas, but I haven't thought of anything that I really love and feel like it could be the main plot of the story. I don't want a dark lord or chosen one because that is too Harry Potter and I want to stand out. Right now, I'm thinking the best way to come up with a plot is to develop more history for the school. I have a founder, a reason it was founded, the location it was founded, and the time period it was founded (btwn WWI and II). Since I want a good portion of the story to be a mystery (not a genre I'm experienced with, but I think it fits the story) having history to pull from may help. I also want to add fantasy adventure elements but I need a reason for the characters to leave the school.
How magic works in your setting will also influence how the magic school is structured. If magic is something some people are born with, is going to be prioritary to start their magic education as soon as possible (and also it will make more probable that the schools are goverment founded institutions that are either free or charge relatively small fees, because children hurting themselves and others by the missuse magic would be a public hazard, and also it will allow the goverment to monitor magic-users from an early age)... If, on the other hand, magic is something everybody can lean and just requires lots of time and dedication to master, magic schools would more ressemble colleges and universities (the students would be older on average and they will charge more because an education in magic wouldn't be such big of a basic necessity)... Note to self: invedtigate if there's a novel about a magic community collage, because that could be fun
I always thought that logically a boarding school jam packed with magic-wielding teens would be a cesspool of horrific, high-octane aggression. Just imagine. Using superpowers for bullying, alchemic concoctions for pranks and just to get high, literally just playing with magical items - the place would have to be run like a prison colony just to keep the death toll low. I don't even want to get into what the students' sex life would look like.
Here I am, who made a 50-page document with all the laws, distributions of powers, and rules for succession for a dnd magic school campaign (the entire campaign take place in the school, with the exception of like 4 games where there was a field trip).
Idea for a magic school system. First rule of magic: magicians do not "own" magic, they simply have a genitically inherited trait of being able to "borrow" foreign energies and use their bodies to canalize it with the help of trances and rituals. Such an ability is inate and makes the person vulnerable to attacks by evil spirits if no protective magic is taught. Magical knowledge is long and difficult to acquire, so most mages take on apprentices, usually their own children. However, not every mage has time to fully train their child, so they might send them to be an apprentice in case they die pre-maturely. Over time and with wizards increasingly cutting themselves from normal society, it eventually matured into a full-on school system. It only has three grades, but each grade lasts 3 years. The minimum age to be an apprentice is ten years old, otherwise the child is too young and silly to apply themselves enough to learn something as dangerous as magic. So, they end their schooling as young adults. Most masters and schools will focus on only one branche of magic (witchcraft, divination, necromancy, geotia and alchemy), again, because it is a too vast and complexe art to be a generalist in it. Wizards had long endured long and violent persecution, and those who were able to enter societies were often times forced into the dirtiest jobs and lived under constant threat of lynching. Some, however, did manage to acquire some level of wealth by becoming executioners, or necromancers using dead bodies to steal money and other goods. All of this had created a culture among wizards were no one under a certain age would be allowed to have a social life. So the literal version of "friendship is magic" would be non-existant, since no one makes friends before age 14, and that's if they're extremely lucky. Most of the time, they won't know of friendship, only a life of fleeing persecutions. That doesn't mean some don't have ethics or possibility for material gain. This creates a lot of opportunity for abuse, sadly, however, it does protect families and communities. Overtime, most wizarding schools, that are more modern, would also have a disturbing amount of control over the social lives of their pupils. The schooling system is quite interesting, as it isn't government run nor completely private. They are more like charity institutions that double as boarding schools that does open their doors to paying parents if the opportunity presents itself. They don't really have strict dress codes, however, students rarely have the opportunity to talk amongst themselves, with some even ready to pay extra just so their kid don't make friends. Heartless to our standarts, yes, but again, they value family-type relationships and they view a large social circle as a threat, again, a scar from their long years of persecution. Students are also never allowed to do magic unsupervised. And yes, love potions are considered black magic and are forbidden. Also, no opening of dimensional passages at all coats. Big no. But it's not like wizards have a huge respect for rules. This is why most magic schools use brutal corporal punishments, both to protect the school's secrets (in a "tell anyone and this will happen to you") and give a semblance of what they'll risk in the real world, or simply because it is the only strong deterrent that work in a culture were people are thought from a young age to spit on public opinion and on personal image. Pear-pressure discipline is not used, not out of ethical concerns, but because it doesn't work in their culture. They are generations that appear seemingly sporadically that try to integrate normal society. They do so with limited success, and are resented by their grand-children who suffer the economic repercussions of this clumsy integration (normally, when a marginalized group integrates society, the most immediate effect is a loss of wealth due to competition and a loss of a still needed "special status". The only exceptions do seem to be queers, since they almost by definition, cannot create families, at least not naturally). However, magic is mostly home taught, with knowledge passed from one generation to the next.
Everyone seems to forget that Xavier's school for gifted youngsters in x-men is already exist and bring the magic academy tropes to the mainstream media with comic long before Harry Potter and Hogwarts with the novel.
I'd say that JKR actually took a lot of her ideas about Hogwarts from the Worst Witch, I mean Snape is just a masculine version of Miss Hardbroom aimed at adults, not kids. Miss Cackle is basically a Hufflepuff in every way and Professor Sprout is very similar. They even have different coloured sashes for the different years which got adapted into the Houses
Just checked The Worst Witch on Wikipedia and oh wow. The series lasted 44 years and only got 8 books. If someone read the first book in 1974 and were 10 back then, they would be 54 when the last book came out! A lot of them might have grandchildren at this point!
@@ThePreciseClimber Yeah, my Grandparents read them to my dad and his siblings and we still have the original copies and that was 10 years after they came out!
Binging your videos on world building to make sure that my stories work well, but realizing my story has roughly seven different layers of magic systems instead
If you pick a school of magic, can you pick spell from other school? If you pick a school, do you get a bonus to spells from that school of magic? If so, what type of bonus and/or advatageous?
I challenge you to do a video on kingdom hearts world building and lore. Also fate/stay nights, and finally, explain how kingdom hearts interacts with the final fantasy world(s). Also fuck there are way to many anime magic schools I just didn't need to be reminded of that and how anime just kinda loves to forget everything about the schools they can...Also just to be that guy, it's explicitly against the rules of the sith to train young children in the ways of the dark side. They don't have any magic schools they have the rule of 2, a rule very much restricted only to people above a certain age. To cut down on a lot of exposition the Sith believe that indoctrination of young ones into believing in the dark side goes against it's very core principle and only accept apprentices that either come to them (and are of age) or more rarely organize some manner of finding a force sensitive adult that meet's their personal prerequisites. Basically they rely near solely on life itself being so shitty that people eventually say "fuck it" and join the darkside. Considering they never die we have our answer on whether or not that's an effective recruitment method.
I have no magic school really like In Harry Potter. Most people learn some very easy and basic magic from their parents. There are groups that can learn you more, kinda how you train a sport after school. Then there are like big univerities and shit
Harry Potter gets away or attempts to get away with their dangerous activities with yheir super soft magic system that allows for Rowling to say "magic fixed it". Note her explanation of magic users making poop disappear or how bones can be regrown. Magic is super dangerous but also super good at fixing dangerous outcomes. It's the ultimate fantasy of no or extremely limited consequences.
I don't think Harry Potter popularized the hidden magical world, it may have revitalized it but many stories like The Wizard of OZ, Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, etc popularized it first.
I love the idea that Hagrid of all people has the safest class at Hogwarts
Ah, no, Professor Sprout. We see multiple different instances of plant-specific safety gear being used in various books, for what is otherwise a pretty plot-irrelevant and ignored class. Hagrid is probably up there though, assuming we don't add in post-hoc explanations about how potions cauldrons have fume safety spells cast on their rims, or something.
I'd say Divination is the safest, it's all staring at glass and tea leaves isn't it
There is also Muggle studies
Unless they're making a nuke or something it's definitely the safest class
@@aubreyjanuary9809 Ah, except that class literally caused all the deaths and events of the books plots.
@@lukec2004 Hm, true. Totally out of date, but true; now I'd like to think that muggle studies is more along the lines of Arthur Weasley crossed with Dr. Frankenstein. Doing science and magical bullshit beyond the realm of mere muggles, because they have perfect and infinitely advanced protective gear and scientific equipment in the form of spells.
"Now pay attention class, the muggles are right on the cusp of building something to replicate this spell, called a particle accelerator; if you can tell me about what this might mean for muggle science in the future and be good through the rest of the lecture, we can go outside and experiment with it tomorrow. One page of muggle lined paper, a quick exploration of the topic; for those of you who forget, that's 10-11 inches.
Oh, and don't forget that we're taking a field trip to a nuclear missile silo on saturday; if you don't show up by 10am and can demonstrate you know the assigned list of spells to hide yourself but let us talk to each other, I _will_ leave you behind."
Most magic schools teach you the holy secrets of mary sue
Blessed be the Mary, the Gary and the Plot Armor.
And her sister
Mary Jane
Ridiculous notion, bucko.
A magic school could absolutely have powerful and dangerous artifacts, if it's like a RL university or something where research is done. Of course, those artifacts would be stored safely and securely in heavily restricted areas, and research would only be done by older students under proper supervision. Obviously.
Or they are normal magic items done as finals donated from previous students. However, if you combine a magic item with another, add some magic glue from potions class and an additional enchantment you get something really powerful. That way you can have a mystery after the theft of the first item up to them needing a room to finish the creation. Also, the students involved may be manipulated by someone in the background.
The possibilities are endless.
@@yakirchernin6015 Makes sense as it can probably trace back its history back beyond Merlin.
I'm pretty sure James is talking about the school as a secret hiding place for bad stuff with no real precautions, as in the only thing really hiding the stuff is a most likely unknowing student body.
Hogwarts is actually somewhat unique in that it is a completely civilian institution. The students really are just kids being taught to enter the mainstream workforce.
Yep. After you graduate, people assume you’ll work in some department in the Ministry of Magic and any other occupation that doesn’t involve the Ministry is somewhat frowned upon.
What are the jobs available for wizards after graduation?
@@Andrewtr6 prostation
@@Andrewtr6 There are actually quite a lot like being a Auror (wizard law enforcement) or professor.
James Tullos: "Harry Potter was pretty good... but it needed more sex!"
That's what "the magicians" is for :-)
@@yakirchernin6015 But girls can go into the boys' dorms, and even though they did comment on how a weird double standard this is, the option is definitely there.
@@yakirchernin6015 So it's a gay haven. Lucky for them. And other than that, Hogwarts has enough rooms and corners for kinking. Like this magic room which appears when needed.
@@unofonseca2862 God that was good. The show was fucking baller too.
Nothing wrong with that...
JK Rowling had her hands tied early on with the Harry Potter books. Her initial desire was for the books to grow with the children, so by the time you arrived at the last books, there would have been more general swearing and sexual innuendo, such as the level you see in the films, especially with Ron. But the publishers pushed back hard on this, insisting that they stay strictly kid friendly.
Well, they do get darker anyway. And random swearing and innuendos would probably make them seem more childish, ironically.
Not to mention nowadays kids can read Harry Potter with no breaks between books so it's better that they're more consistent.
i think this is a good call on the publishers part. my 9 year old nephew has read them more than once already. it would be bad if they started at his age level and then got to gruesome.
@@gordianplot9347 Oh, don't misunderstand. It wasn't going to get gruesome. Better to think of the swearing more like how it was in the movies, light and standard for teenagers. She wasn't planning on making them into full blown adult novels at the end.
@Robert Gronewold in that case i doubt my nephew would have noticed the swearing as anything unusual.
@@robertgronewold3326 have you ever looked into what it was supposed to take to make a horcrux? originally it was more than just murder.
I now want to make a setting with a highly militaristic magical school.
so something like Mahouka koukou no rettousei minus the incest?
So like Charles Xavier's School for Gifted children then?
I personally liked how a school like that was set up early on in The legend of the legendary heroes. Basically children and teenagers with no one to rely on forced to learn magic and become soldiers or starve.
Tabbye Lynne To be fair the ones trained for the X-Men were a select group from the pool of students there; they didn’t just take everyone’s kids and make them into weapons, only some.
Revolutionary Communist It's "Saga of Tanya the Evil" and it's not a magical school.
My favorite fantasy school protagonist is Ebony Dark'ness Raven Dementia Way.
She teaches kids the most important lesson of all: Goffs rule, prepz suk!
I hear ya. She's no protagonist, but if any magical character, I choose both Luna Lovegood and Mildred Hubble ;)
Regarding Hogwarts student safety, I belive the students had to wear ear mufflers during botany class to proctect against the screams of alraunes. Neville didn't wear his and fell unconscious because of it.
Also, nice vid :)
Still a very mundane protection when you consider they many more dangerous things in the series that had no protections.
I like the idea of a magic “school” being closer to how Ancient Greece did philosophy. It’s essentially just a group who sit around someone who has a knack for it guiding them into a state of mind in which they can channel the magic more easily and then they can chime in with questions if they felt so inclined. More of a communal experience of individuals that a school in the modern sense
James: Don't have your magic school be some kind of hiding place for an artifact of great power.
RWBY: SWEATING INTENSIFIES
Miles and Kerry: FUCK
“I suppose this isn’t a typical school, Is it”
-The grim reaper. Headmaster of weapon meister academy. A magical school
is that a Soul Eater reference?
Lyam Yeah. Historical Anachronism aside the show is pretty good.
Love it
Love it!
People still remember Soul Eater?!
If it's post-secondary education then some powerful artifact is a bit more justifiable. I remember something in Digimon Tamers where a character said you wouldn't expect a bunch of college kids to be running the kinds of experiments they were involved in, but that's exactly who I would expect to be involved in that kind of research, because colleges are exactly where high-concept cutting-edge research tends to happen. That's kind of why colleges originally became a thing in the first place.
The Goblet of Fire movie strongly implies that various students from the three schools slept with each other. The deleted scenes include a teacher breaking up a...session in progress in a rocking wagon (Titanic style), and best of all, a VERY disheveled Neville Longbottom coming back to the dorm quite late the morning after the dance, shoes hanging from his neck, saying, "I just got home, Harry. Me!".
His date to the dance was Ginny :)
While Rawling could not publish anything like this, the fanfic community has..."filled in the holes in the narrative" ;)
Have any of you ever gave a thought to how KINKY magic can be? Seriously, I feel like lots of authors have really vanilla sex takes on settings that feature magic. The possibilities are really, really wild.
Well, go on. We're all waiting for some elaboration ;)
@@yakirchernin6015 why deviant art?
There are dedicated erotica sites.
@@yakirchernin6015 I have a better idea that will scar you less directly, but give you an idea. Find one of the really weird furry porn sites (mainly because yeah, that is a place where things get really weird; no, I'm not a furry or anything, just a guy who's spent a lot of time on the internet) that allows almost anything content wise, and (intently ignoring any specific images) go and look at their tags list. Each weird one, think how easy it'd be to do it with magic, and combine it with other ones that you see. It's also highly likely that you'll discover at least a couple things about yourself, but that's the risk you take.
I'm writing a Magic school story set in another story that I'm writing (the magic school story is just to show off the magic system better since it's a small part of my main story) with the setting being modern America. One form of magic is based off Aleister Crowley's concept of Magick which is what he called the magic his sex cult did basically. I was also partially inspired by The Magicians series.
Anyways, there's a lot that could be done with magic in general. Multiple Harry Potter spells could be used. Levitating with wingardium leviosa, using polyjuice to enact sexual fantasies (with a partner or oneself), even two of the unforgivable curses would be used Crucio (pain) and Portraits
Ideas not from Harry Potter are: charming objects to move on their own, creating a pair of floating hands, summoning tentacles, animating inanimate objects (statues, dolls), turning someone into a catgirl/catboy or other animal people.
Aww yes rull 34 in the making
Why didn't they have sex? Who says they didn't?
There were plenty of time skips that we don't see what is happening. I'd be more concerned if there was a sex scene in Harry Potter considering it would add nothing to the story and would be a waste of word count.
True
I'm pretty sure a lot of the upper classmen in Hogwarts had copious amounts of sex in the hidden nooks and crannies of the castle.
But Harry is also about as perceptive as a brick wall and probably just didn't notice, especially since outside of stuff like the extracurricular activities, of which he only ever attended the Quidditch team, one session of Lockhart's dueling seminar and one session of Slughorn's weird favorites club, the separation between grades appears to be rather strict. Add to that the separation into houses and the curfews with Filch patrolling the grounds. You'd have to secretive about it.
And of course he and his best friends were on the run from the government and the school was taken over by wizard Nazis in his last year.
Harry with the marauder's map: "How curious! Those two people seem be occupying the exact same same spot..."
"percy jackson is harry potter in a different setting" HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!????????
but yeah, kinda, pretty much.
I would say that Herbology did have the equivalent of safety goggles when they wore ear muffs...
What I would love to see in such stories are classes that are not plot relevant and a class plan that aims towards an occupation after the finals.
It's no magic school, but Fire Emblem: Three Houses has a fantasy military school that has magic as part of the curriculum. It's also a monastery and kinda the Vatican of it's universe _and_ has a bunch of shady and dangerous things going on in addition to the whole "learning how to kill" stuff. And, you know, it's run by the church so there's a lot of religiosity going on. And a bit of racism too; the school was established to repel invasions from the east, so they don't like people from thereabouts. Aaaand the students are sometimes asked to hunt down heretics and other enemies of the church.
But aside from all of that stuff it's kinda like Hogwarts. They even have houses, three of them in fact, with their own colors and animal mascots. And quirky professors, some of which may or may not be evil. And terrible security that just seems to let villains in the front door. And competitions, though they are all about fighting, or dancing, or fishing... there's a lot, really.
So it's like Hogwarts if it was a church teaching kids how to fight wars. There's also more fucking around... with both the teachers _and_ the students... The Church of Seiros does not belive in celibacy it would seem.
@Aesthetic Decision The fishing is mostly to supplement teachers' salaries. It's a tough business, even when you aren't leading kids into battle.
The dancing though, _is_ a fundamental part of combat. It's no exaggeration to say that wars have been won or lost over the art of dancing.
@@Erika-gn1tv Is that..is that cannon? If so I have to play this game..
@@goldenbrigain7031 There's alot more to it but, yes, that's pretty much canon.
golden brigain the dancer class is literally one of the best supporting classes in the game
I'd say that the Officer's Academy of Garreg Mach is more like a military academy than a magical school.
One thing I have always wondered about Hogwarts. These are kids. None of them complained or were unhappy about leaving their tech behind? Especially the muggle born and half muggle born who had TVs, computers, video games and later on (in the time of Harry and Co's kids, smartphones, tablets and handheld video games and the Internet)
Why doesn't hogwarts modernize
@@bepisthescienceman4202 magic disrupts tech
Well Harry Potter took place in the 90s so make of that what you will.
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You’re not entirely wrong, and I’m a Percy Jackson fan. The good thing is that the series itself isn’t a ripoff of Harry Potter. Most plot points actually happen outside of the camp and the camp itself is often just the starting point as a genuine safe Haven, which actually takes the title, Safe Haven, seriously and isn’t attacked 24/7. If something breaks into camp, it took either raw power and/or careful planning.
On the series itself, it’s a great way to learn about the pantheon and the different gods and monsters
Additional point. I enjoyed the HP books growing up much like many others, but I have noticed the unspoken issue. All the problems of the HP world can be traced back to houses and house alliances. Children are shuffled into groups that are defined by vague characteristics and left to their own devices, it is even clear that adults within the series have not let go of their loyalty to these groups. JKR has addressed this issue once with Snape and Dumbledore, where the headmaster questioned if they sort too soon. This is an obvious hint to how people can change, Dumbledore acts more Slytherin while Snape develops bravery akin to Gryffindor. But the system doesn't allow these people to express themselves and thus causes more harm than good. There is a clear reason why the house system fell out of practice in the UK, it breeds herd mentality and prevents individualism.
TLDR; Dont have houses in your magical school.
Or, if you do have houses, don't make them based on character traits and don't make competitions between them. I kind of like the way the Magicians does it, by having them effectively based on what the students' affinities are (though in the books affinities were said to be more akin to astrology than anything; in the show they were a bit more visible). There are also problems with this system, though.
or better yet, if you do have houses, don't sweep these problems under the rug and actually address the kinds of issues that they can cause and maybe have the characters in-universe comment more directly on it and try to address it.
Just finally getting into an academy in the story I am writing. On the surface it exists to develop talents, however, its real purpose is to help certain individuals who are perpetually reincarnating (for complicated story reasons) so that they have the resources necessary to quickly regain their power.
The headmaster who runs the place is an ancient immortal bound to that goal, however, in order to maintain his body after literal thousands of millennia he is physically incapable of leaving the inner most chambers of the academy where he is kept alive by a masive mana well, at most he can project his will through magic around the academy, though there is a limit of his far he can reach. Of course he is also powerful enough that no-one could feasibly steal the mana, very much including gods.
I am still figuring out the day to day life of students. My current idea is that the mornings are filled with lessons, however, after noon the place descends to survival of the fittest where under supervision students can fight for social status or extra resources, including credit. Meanwhile the academy also assigns students missions which involve leaving for prolonged period of time. The leaving part of probably going to be rather important to keep a long going story kind of fresh, so I figured that each year instead of summer holiday the students would be send out to accomplish their missions. Each class having different time periods for this as to have coverage all year long since the academy plays a major role in peacekeeping all around the world.
sounds plenty interesting a plot, please do post a link if/when you get to publishing it
i thought i saw magic school bus and got excited
smh my head
Uh oh I have been summoned to see just how many things I haven't done right or haven't done at all
I hope you will be mentioning LeGuin's Earthsea series
Why does everyone say, "they shouldn't sell love potions to teenagers" you shouldn't sell it to anyone.
This has given me some ideas for my book, thank you! I have a magic using character introduced in the later parts of the story and hadn't considered their back story in much depth yet, so this is helpful.
Have you heard about the world building of warrior cats???? I think it haves a similar way of writing (in environment development) of Percy Jackson
What is this?
I know Percy Jackson. What is Warrior cats
@@shosty575 its a book series they are actually more know than percy Jackson you should look it up they are fun to read
@@eliflashlight4607 oh thanks
Its fighting cat books. For anyone not knowing.
The anime magic schools XD, dude we love it. They really are everywhere.
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I mean it is heavily implied that they do it after hours in hiding since It is likely not allowed.(in Half Blood Prince Ron and Lavander straight up go to an empty classroom to "smooch".
Magical Schools needed to be established as either a entirely different dimension that our own, or the World Governments know of the existence of magic and allows the studying of it. Magic School are cool on the surface until diving into the world-building, which is either extremely vague, or runs counter to the set rules of the world. As beloved as the Harry Potter series was it left several aspects of its world-building left behind for grand battles, but the amount of death and destruction that Voldemort left behind will have drawn the eyes of the British Government. The fact that several owls are seen flying across the England dropping their letters to Howgarts. Some of these Owls which aren’t native, should at least catch some red flags to natural conversations. In Deathly Hollow Death Eaters attack London which should have drawn attention, because of this is a similar world at the time, both police and S.A.S force would have arrived at the scene considering the amount of terrorists attacks were happening at the time. Magic in general in a modern world will create more problems for writers, which either they have to explain everything of how it works or doesn’t, or in most cases leave out and just focus on the Characters and Plots, which almost all authors tend to focus on.
The most unbelivable Part of Hogwarts is that, in seven years of attending, not ONCE did someone take Harry's glasses, put them on and told Harry how blind he is.
I don’t think Hogwarts has co-Ed dorms. They had a co-Ed common room, but there was a stair case that led to the boys’ rooms, and another that led to the girls’ rooms
Not a comment related to the video, but just wanted to say that as a young aspiring writer attempting to learn more about worldbuilding specifically, your content is awesome! Definitely subscribed.
I think its pretty important to also consider if the school has any extra functions (or if its something else with school functions) - the White Tower is also the seat of power for all of the Aes Sedai, for instance - and that can shape the dynamic in serious ways.
I'm surprised there isn't that much of Wizard schools with bad students really. Or that is not taken humorisitically or more lightly.
The only one I can name is the Unseen University.
I mean, kinda makes sense that the students would do relatively well, the motivation would be high since they have the opportunity to do something really awesome and also the schools usually only take talented or otherwise privileged kids that would generally do well anyway.
Hey, in the UU, it's the teachers who are morons not the students
Rincewind is the exception, but he is excused for having his head completely filled with one of the great spells.
@@johannageisel5390 Well not anymore because in the Eight Spell, he finally get it out by spelling it's name backwards.
Well, afterwards he went to the Dungeon Dimension, got freed by a young demon summoner and pretty much became a genie.
Yes, I've read the entirety of Eric.
Boy that was looooooooong
@@alexrexaros9837 I need to re-read the earlier books.
One Idea I had in the past, after watching pretty much all these magic school anime, studying in a pretty large military school, and missing that game Bully, was to have a game set in a magical college of some sorts, where the protagonist is a delinquent, and is always ditching classes to explore the school itself, which would be like a huge fortress-like dungeon full of contraptions and hidden rooms. Then I played Artificial Academy and had this idea of making it a sim as well, and the lroe was that it was after a "magical world war", kinda like an isekai version of the Napoleonic Wars or WW1, so it used to be a fortress, and the fact it has less students it was because...well...lots of deaths in the past. Given the more ecchi inspirations, my idea was to make it an Eroge as well. The idea was that every student had a secret related to one room.
I can't code so... the idea never came to fruition.
glad you are a fan of Miura's Berserk
This is my magic system, it’s called L’ndith /ləndiθ/, meaning “stone craft”:
-L’ndith can have many potential uses, both necessary (transportation, medicine) and trivial (cosmetics, entertainment), but it is seldom used (usually only by elites and scholars) because it can be dangerous. L’ndith manifests itself through precious crystals, called khridhvel’nt /χriðvɛlənt/, roughly meaning “stones of wizardry” in the tolad /tɔlad/ language. Users summon l’ndith by properly reciting tolad incantations while making physical contact with khridhvel’nt. If used properly, l’ndith can help its users solve problems and give the user powers such as teleportation, healing, disguise, etc.
-L’ndith is mostly used by elites and scholars, as they have the resources to obtain khridhvel’nt and learn incantations in tolad. Although extremely rare, a handful of individuals (regardless of class) are predisposed by birth to contain quantities of khridhvel’nt in their blood streams, which enables such individuals, called l’ndrogh /ləndrɔʁ/ (stone-blooded), to use (or be used for) tolad incantations without crystals.
-Natural khridhvel’nt is a limited resource which is strictly guarded by henchmen who work for the elites. However, some scholars can secretly synthesize artificial khridhvel’nt by using fragments of natural crystals to convert other matter into it. Elites consider this conversion theft, and make attempts to persecute scholars and l’ndrogh for their usage. L’ndith can become addictive if used multiple times during a short period. For incantations, unrounded vowels require two khridhvel’nt (for height and backness) while rounded vowels require a third for roundedness; length and stress also warrant more. Voiceless consonants require two (for place and manner of articulation) with voice and ejectivity also warranting more. Users can be defeated by simply running out of it or using it incorrectly.
-After being used for an incantation, khridhvel’nt quickly sublimate into an odorless, toxic gas which can cause temporary paralysis/vision impairment if inhaled (although this usually isn’t fatal and lasts on average temporarily for ten-15 minutes). Large scale sublimation can cause pollution and collateral damage to ecosystems. L’ndrogh are sought after and are particularly vulnerable to abduction/slavery for their natural abundance of khridhvel’nt. Criminals are often punished with harmful incantations (in addition to the temporary paralysis/vision impairment). Khridhvel’nt can be used to cure debilitating illnesses, but there is a price to pay; that illness must be transferred to another lifeform (usually to the aforementioned criminals). Anti-elitist possession of khridhvel’nt is often severely punished by the elites, who fear class mobility from its usage by lower classes.
-Khridhvel’nt were created naturally by k’al’nv’t /kʼalənvət/, roughly meaning “paramount comets”, which impacted and their supernatural minerals became embedded within the ground. Eons later, the Tol tribes settled throughout the rugged landscape which was shaped by craters from k’al’nv’t. As the Tol civilization developed, farmers, paid laborers, slaves, and other workers participated in architecture projects and engineering endeavors, including construction, agriculture and landscaping. One day, according to legend, four Tol slaves were ordered by their master to explore a cave in search of fresh drinking water. One of them brought a torch so they could see through the darkness and deep within the cave, they discovered beautiful rock formations covered in crystals. After one of the slaves yelled in amazement, the unstable ceiling caved in and they were buried in an avalanche of crystals. They were wounded and crystal particles became imbued in their blood streams as a result. Only one of the slaves was still conscious afterwards and made cries for help. To his amazement, the stones surrounding his body sublimated and then he passed out from blood loss and the toxic fumes. Hours later, the four slaves regained consciousness in the cave and miraculously escaped from the pile of crystals. Their language, the Tolad language, was the first language ever uttered within the crystal’s vicinity, which triggered a mutation that only allowed the crystals understand Tolad. There may be undiscovered crystals that haven’t been exposed to Tolad and thus available for another language. They were physiologically altered by the crystals, it fused with their dna and several of their descendants became l’ndrogh from the khridhvel’nt dominant gene. After emerging from the cave, the four men used their new abilities to free themselves from slavery and become a quadrumvirate which would unite the Tol tribes beneath a federation. Their cooperation and even distribution of land to rule within the federation enabled an era of peace and prosperity for the Tol federation, which balkanized after their deaths. During the power vacuum, Tol elites usurped control of separate territories and became fiercely protective of the khridhvel’nt, often warring with each other over the crystals. Scholars were employed by the elites to study the khridhvel’nt so that elites could utilize their power.
-Even today, l’ndith is strictly guarded by the elites and their henchmen, although its existence is no secret. Most people among the lower classes could benefit from khridhvel’nt but most wouldn’t dare try to obtain it from fear of severe punishments by the elites. Additionally, Tolad language resources are scarce beyond the elites’ mansions. Elites and scholars have established a khridhvel’nt society to regulate what Tolad words and phrases can be used for incantations. These approved incantations are recorded in a text called t’avdru /tʼavdru/ (meaning “the canon”), which is updated every year. Some rogue scholars illegally practice their own unapproved incantations. Although there is no particular set of clothing that distinguishes users, elites are (needless to say) the most well dressed of the classes and thus, fine linens and robes could possibly indicate usage. However, not all elites can be bothered to learn about khridhvel’nt or how to use it. Additionally, scholars, who are the most familiar with khridhvel’nt, are different from elites in that they generally prefer to stay away from attention. They often disguise themselves among the lower class, which also include some l’ndrogh. The lack of incentive to procure khridhvel’nt or resources to learn the Tolad language has made many lower class citizens indifferent to l’ndith.
tl;dr: rich guys use magic crystals to do stuff sometimes.
5:08 Agreed, that was how we got Voldermort.
On the topic of anime and high schools, there are quite a lot of series with specific high schools that would make sense in their world (such as Duel Academy from GX) unless the series is set in a completely realistic world with some fictional elements (such as Assassination Classroom). The only series with a sort of magical school that I know has no real importance outside of being a location for fights is Kill La Kill.
The purpose part is very important. In my work in progress, the main school was built to compete against public magic schools who only trained future soldiers and officials. It's a bit like SpaceX, pretty much the only non-government space stuff company.
In Chronicles of a Royal Pet (Royal Ooze Chronicles) the head of the magic school is a former Adventurer who completely restructured the way the magic academy educates the students because of the fact he learned from experience that all the flashy magic, which was the bulk of the education during his time of being a student there, was certainly impressive looking but also very lacking in most real-world application. The magic of this world also has clear negative effects for overuse, as a shown example in-story, if you overuse elemental spells then the backlash of their overuse will cause negative effects on the caster, for example, if you overuse earth-based spells it can cause slow petrification of the caster themself with each new use of earth-based spells without giving the proper amount of time to wind down from their use. It is also shown that magical aptitude, base power, and spell affinity vary between casters, some magic users show a lack of ability to make use of certain magics because of these factors.
I recommend checking out the series when you can. I've also read some adult fantasy setting stories, the most notable being the Dark Dungeon series, where extended use of magic can actually have an effect the caster in a bit more of a more mature, less family-friendly, way.
Hey James, I noticed you keep looking down at your notes while talking. You can try to glue/tape them under your camara so you can still look up and read them out :)
Agree
This is a very useful video considering I’m writing a sci-fi Hunger Games inspired battle royale book at the moment.
Where can I read it?
I have a magic school in my world but none of the main characters actually go to it. Its essentially an elite priesthood of magic users who worship the spirits that control the magic dimension. The main character is able to discover magic on him own through his love of nature
How is it different from like a monastery. I guess they're kind of similar but magic highschool expects you to leave and be a better person while monasterys only teach in religion and you usually stay to serve as an example to the community, like a really long internship.
Austin Rood that sound similar to a Jedi temple.
@@ttydt I drew inspiration from eastern philosophy, as does star wars, so that's a fair comparison
A lot of the problems with Hogwarts, I answered in my own story. For example, the school as a magical barrier that literally prevents anyone on campus from getting sexually excited. This same protection ward prevents students from casting spells that could harm them or others. The problem I have found is that making the setting too safe makes the stakes feel really low and it can be hard to create drama and build a plot. I don't want the school to be a hiding spot for some powerful item but JK Rowling going that route probably made it easier for her to structure the story around the school.
I'm having trouble with my story because I want it structured around the kids learning magic at the school and being able to use what they learn to solve problems in unique ways. But with the school taking many precautions, I'm having trouble coming up with the problems that need to be solved. I have some loose ideas, but I haven't thought of anything that I really love and feel like it could be the main plot of the story. I don't want a dark lord or chosen one because that is too Harry Potter and I want to stand out.
Right now, I'm thinking the best way to come up with a plot is to develop more history for the school. I have a founder, a reason it was founded, the location it was founded, and the time period it was founded (btwn WWI and II). Since I want a good portion of the story to be a mystery (not a genre I'm experienced with, but I think it fits the story) having history to pull from may help. I also want to add fantasy adventure elements but I need a reason for the characters to leave the school.
IMO script setup needs some adjusting. Your looking down a bit too much to read and its a little distracting. Still great vid keep it James.
How magic works in your setting will also influence how the magic school is structured. If magic is something some people are born with, is going to be prioritary to start their magic education as soon as possible (and also it will make more probable that the schools are goverment founded institutions that are either free or charge relatively small fees, because children hurting themselves and others by the missuse magic would be a public hazard, and also it will allow the goverment to monitor magic-users from an early age)... If, on the other hand, magic is something everybody can lean and just requires lots of time and dedication to master, magic schools would more ressemble colleges and universities (the students would be older on average and they will charge more because an education in magic wouldn't be such big of a basic necessity)... Note to self: invedtigate if there's a novel about a magic community collage, because that could be fun
I always thought that logically a boarding school jam packed with magic-wielding teens would be a cesspool of horrific, high-octane aggression. Just imagine. Using superpowers for bullying, alchemic concoctions for pranks and just to get high, literally just playing with magical items - the place would have to be run like a prison colony just to keep the death toll low. I don't even want to get into what the students' sex life would look like.
Iirc the stairs to the girls dorms in Gryffindor house became slides when dudes used them.
So the girl would have to go to the male dorms
I think of brakebills as a what NOT to do when writing a magic school, unless you intend it to be a party school.
Here I am, who made a 50-page document with all the laws, distributions of powers, and rules for succession for a dnd magic school campaign (the entire campaign take place in the school, with the exception of like 4 games where there was a field trip).
"Care of Magic Creatures is the only Hogwarts class with safety precautions." I thought you'd say Herbology with the earmuffs and all...
8:46 Lol, I told Ozpin the same fucking thing.
We need a grimdark magic school
I wanted to be first but Noah Singleton beat me. Sorry.
Poor you
I mean, nobody is stopping you from making your own take on this...
It's Stoneworks!
Finally another worldbuilding video!
I had the exact same reaction to love potions in HP. What kind of use could those possibly have in a society other than rape?
Imagine a school selling roofies.
Idea for a magic school system. First rule of magic: magicians do not "own" magic, they simply have a genitically inherited trait of being able to "borrow" foreign energies and use their bodies to canalize it with the help of trances and rituals. Such an ability is inate and makes the person vulnerable to attacks by evil spirits if no protective magic is taught. Magical knowledge is long and difficult to acquire, so most mages take on apprentices, usually their own children. However, not every mage has time to fully train their child, so they might send them to be an apprentice in case they die pre-maturely. Over time and with wizards increasingly cutting themselves from normal society, it eventually matured into a full-on school system. It only has three grades, but each grade lasts 3 years. The minimum age to be an apprentice is ten years old, otherwise the child is too young and silly to apply themselves enough to learn something as dangerous as magic. So, they end their schooling as young adults.
Most masters and schools will focus on only one branche of magic (witchcraft, divination, necromancy, geotia and alchemy), again, because it is a too vast and complexe art to be a generalist in it.
Wizards had long endured long and violent persecution, and those who were able to enter societies were often times forced into the dirtiest jobs and lived under constant threat of lynching. Some, however, did manage to acquire some level of wealth by becoming executioners, or necromancers using dead bodies to steal money and other goods. All of this had created a culture among wizards were no one under a certain age would be allowed to have a social life. So the literal version of "friendship is magic" would be non-existant, since no one makes friends before age 14, and that's if they're extremely lucky. Most of the time, they won't know of friendship, only a life of fleeing persecutions. That doesn't mean some don't have ethics or possibility for material gain. This creates a lot of opportunity for abuse, sadly, however, it does protect families and communities.
Overtime, most wizarding schools, that are more modern, would also have a disturbing amount of control over the social lives of their pupils. The schooling system is quite interesting, as it isn't government run nor completely private. They are more like charity institutions that double as boarding schools that does open their doors to paying parents if the opportunity presents itself. They don't really have strict dress codes, however, students rarely have the opportunity to talk amongst themselves, with some even ready to pay extra just so their kid don't make friends. Heartless to our standarts, yes, but again, they value family-type relationships and they view a large social circle as a threat, again, a scar from their long years of persecution. Students are also never allowed to do magic unsupervised. And yes, love potions are considered black magic and are forbidden. Also, no opening of dimensional passages at all coats. Big no. But it's not like wizards have a huge respect for rules. This is why most magic schools use brutal corporal punishments, both to protect the school's secrets (in a "tell anyone and this will happen to you") and give a semblance of what they'll risk in the real world, or simply because it is the only strong deterrent that work in a culture were people are thought from a young age to spit on public opinion and on personal image. Pear-pressure discipline is not used, not out of ethical concerns, but because it doesn't work in their culture. They are generations that appear seemingly sporadically that try to integrate normal society. They do so with limited success, and are resented by their grand-children who suffer the economic repercussions of this clumsy integration (normally, when a marginalized group integrates society, the most immediate effect is a loss of wealth due to competition and a loss of a still needed "special status". The only exceptions do seem to be queers, since they almost by definition, cannot create families, at least not naturally).
However, magic is mostly home taught, with knowledge passed from one generation to the next.
I think Santodes is pronounced San-toe-dees, since it's a guy from 40k
*insert custodes theme here*
Everyone seems to forget that Xavier's school for gifted youngsters in x-men is already exist and bring the magic academy tropes to the mainstream media with comic long before Harry Potter and Hogwarts with the novel.
3:43 theirs a joke in their about how both these nations literately start with US
Please do an anime magic school version of this video!
tbh the fact that hogwarts barely has any safety measures to me makes it more realistic in a way... i guess cuz i went to a shitty school lol
Marvel has a magical school now, run by Doctor Strange.
6:18 Didn't Terry Pratchet do something like that in The Color of Magic?
What about a magic school series from the POV of the teachers?
That would be the Unseen University books in Pratchett's Discworld series. :D
I'm surprised you didn't meantion soul eater. That was a good one.
How about having the students revise for exams so much that it damages their mental health? No? That wouldn't be fun?
The most realistic magical school is called Brakebills University of Magic, from the Magicians tv show
Hey a new Tullos video
I'd say that JKR actually took a lot of her ideas about Hogwarts from the Worst Witch, I mean Snape is just a masculine version of Miss Hardbroom aimed at adults, not kids. Miss Cackle is basically a Hufflepuff in every way and Professor Sprout is very similar. They even have different coloured sashes for the different years which got adapted into the Houses
Both get a lot of inspiration from the old fashioned boarding schools from Britain as well.
Just checked The Worst Witch on Wikipedia and oh wow. The series lasted 44 years and only got 8 books. If someone read the first book in 1974 and were 10 back then, they would be 54 when the last book came out! A lot of them might have grandchildren at this point!
@@ThePreciseClimber Yeah, my Grandparents read them to my dad and his siblings and we still have the original copies and that was 10 years after they came out!
They shouldn’t sell Potions at all. That is just asking for Rape. Literally, it even happened with Voldemort.
Binging your videos on world building to make sure that my stories work well, but realizing my story has roughly seven different layers of magic systems instead
Eighteen countries and the school goes from sixteen to twenty eight and a ton of species and magic levels
Check out Vita Nostra. It's one of the greatest magic school setting out there.
If you pick a school of magic, can you pick spell from other school? If you pick a school, do you get a bonus to spells from that school of magic? If so, what type of bonus and/or advatageous?
I challenge you to do a video on kingdom hearts world building and lore. Also fate/stay nights, and finally, explain how kingdom hearts interacts with the final fantasy world(s). Also fuck there are way to many anime magic schools I just didn't need to be reminded of that and how anime just kinda loves to forget everything about the schools they can...Also just to be that guy, it's explicitly against the rules of the sith to train young children in the ways of the dark side. They don't have any magic schools they have the rule of 2, a rule very much restricted only to people above a certain age. To cut down on a lot of exposition the Sith believe that indoctrination of young ones into believing in the dark side goes against it's very core principle and only accept apprentices that either come to them (and are of age) or more rarely organize some manner of finding a force sensitive adult that meet's their personal prerequisites. Basically they rely near solely on life itself being so shitty that people eventually say "fuck it" and join the darkside. Considering they never die we have our answer on whether or not that's an effective recruitment method.
Does anyone have a link to the map shown in 2:02 ?
glad for this shorter video, i just cant watch the long 30-50 minute ones
James, have you ever heard/ read or listened to Mother of learning? If you have, what's your opinion of the magical school in it?
>making them objectively cooler than Hogwarts
I fucking lol'd
Hey! They wore earmuffs in Herbolgy!
I have no magic school really like In Harry Potter. Most people learn some very easy and basic magic from their parents. There are groups that can learn you more, kinda how you train a sport after school. Then there are like big univerities and shit
Looks at the "cultivation" novels from China. 🐸🐸🐸 I love some, hate most.
Wicked cool! :D
Nice vid
Harry Potter gets away or attempts to get away with their dangerous activities with yheir super soft magic system that allows for Rowling to say "magic fixed it". Note her explanation of magic users making poop disappear or how bones can be regrown. Magic is super dangerous but also super good at fixing dangerous outcomes. It's the ultimate fantasy of no or extremely limited consequences.
WoT Black Tower is magic boot camp.
The best magic school is the Unseen University, no doubt about it!!
u should make a podcast
Nice video
Do you consider magic guilds in similar vain to magic schools?
What do you think about the world building of the Expanse?
*hides his wand*
I believe I am first
I believe so too
Congratulations comrade
Noah Singleton So it would seem
I believe you
I don't think Harry Potter popularized the hidden magical world, it may have revitalized it but many stories like The Wizard of OZ, Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, etc popularized it first.
Where is the intro song that's not very good but not very long?