It's pretty clear to me what happened to the flight: Warrior tore down the cockpit door and pushed those controls into a nosedive so that he could get closer to parts unknown.
Damn you!! Now I can't stop picturing it, and it's the funniest thing I've seen in a while. TAKE THE PLANE DOWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNN!!!! BECAUSE IIIIIIIIII AAAAAAAMMMMMMM THE WARRRRRRRRRRRIORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! and then Mean Gene throws it back to Gorilla and The Body
What's even crazier is listening to people like Meltzer talk about how they organized it. Today, if you're touring the US West Coast, you might go Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Diego. Pretty much north to south. Back then, it would be like, Sacramento, San Diego, Seattle, Anaheim, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland. Just basically one long zig zag.
@@mfdixon1985 I once heard in an interview from one of the wrestlers, can't remember who, from this time in WWF and they said they'd get their booking sheet for the next month, a wad of plane tickets and left to it whether they liked their schedule or not. They even said those writing out the booking sheet would often even miss out towns, for whatever reason, but then write it in on the under sheet, which duplicated the sheet above when written on to cover themselves, to get that wrestler in trouble with management. So they'd do say New York one night, have nothing the next night, and then have say a twelve hour drive for the show the next night, which was a one man road trip, where they got eaten alive for missing the night before as well as fined and have whatever plans for them used for another wrestler
Not everyone tho look at people like the undertaker HHH Rock they didn’t turn to cocaine and pills it was tuff back then but a lot of wrestlers made them choices regardless of wrestling when it comes to drugs
this is so great to see. I was actually at that MSG show in 1989 for my 10th birthday. I remember my parents got floor seats and i could barely see anything but was excited to see warrior. when his music hit everyone stood up and blocked my view and warrior pinned Andre super quick and was gone. I think I was able to catch a glimpse of his arm tassels and that was it. I was so mad and it almost ruined what was a fun night for me lol, but I was so grateful that my parents took me to that event . Being a kid was great back then
I recall reading about those Warrior Squash matches in PWI at the time. Looking back it just seems to disrespectful of a legend like Andrew, but at the time (I was 18) it all seemed very exciting. I imagine it was awesome to be there.
The first WWE event I went to was a TV Taping with non-televised matches mixed in during the summer of 1995 and I ended up seeing Yokozuna wrestle 3 times. He teamed with Owen in a match against Lex Luger and British Bulldog. Then he and Owen wrestled a squash match. Then he subbed for an injured Sid to face Diesel in a steel cage match. That show also featured a Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart teaming with each other and one of Waylon Mercy's first matches.
I guess but how long were the matches? Like 15 minutes? I'd be happy to work 45 minutes a day for several hundred, possibly even a few thousand, doesn't seem that bad.
@@maxxdahl6062 agreed..... Pretty much every pro at that level (wwf/e, wcw, ecw, tna/impact, roh and aew.... And foreign promotions ) are all very gifted but it seems the hardest part of their job isn't what they actually do in the ring.... It's the travel, maintaining their physique and tan etc..... I'm not taking anything away from those guys though, they are athletes.... Im just making a point that their actual job is only usually a few minutes a day at most a 30-60 minute broadway and that I would be happy if my work day was only around 15 minutes and in that 15 minutes I earned around the same amount as I do in a week or possibly month.
@@samuelwoods164 And house shows are also a bit different in that they're non televised. Every one of his matches could have been 30 minutes to an hour. No TV time limits there.
The WWF also ran a house show in Nashville, TN (May 6, 1989) that was extremely stretched out on purpose to make it hard for WCW to set up for Wrestle War '89 - which was taking place in the same arena the next day.
Interesting, I was at the WWF House Show the night before, May 5, 1989 in Washington, D.C. on a rainy night. I was 13 years old and it was my first ever wrestling show. I saw Ultimate Warrior vs. Rick Rude, Tito Santana vs. Rick Martel, Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect, and the main event was Demolition vs. Twin Towers.
@@jp6046 You saw an amazing card, my friend. I was blessed to see a similar card for my first-ever live wrestling event in January 1990 at Rupp Arena in Lexington, KY. Amazing memories of the Golden Era of professional wrestling. Never another!
89 was around the time as a kid I quit watching so I looked up the card. I saw the main event and I was thinking, my god, that's a PPV main event? Sullivan Spivey vs Gilbert Steiner. It made me almost laugh. Then I saw the undercard. How did that main event over Flair Steamboat? Or even Sting Iron Shiek? Heck, even the other varsity club match, Williams Rotunda v Road Warriors would be far better. Oh well. can't judge by the main event I guess. The rest of the card didn't to bad. There was even a young Rikishi on there and a tag team I never knew existed with Johnny Ace and Shane Douglas.
he had no choice. Because despite Vince telling him he'll take care of Bret while hes healing the checks he was getting were practically nothing. What a shock, Vince says one thing and does another
You can see footage of Bret's injury in the Bravo match in 'Wrestling with Shadows' doc. Also, Hogan was the only one who had no use for a unionized workplace (he worked less house shows) but Ventura was the smartest wrestler of the decade trying to unionize. Mind blowing that to this day, they still have not, when every pro sports league has long since.
Vince is to blame for so many wrestlers dying young. The schedule he expects them to keep leads to the substance abuse and their bodies failing, while he travels in a private jet with his family.
No wonder they ate pain pills like candy and shot up steroids, the schedule was so strenuous there was barely any time for rest or work out to keep the body builder physique.
This is the same Building where @ a 1992 Matinee House Show, where Bret Hart lost the IC TITLE to the Mountie, who lost it two days later to Roddy Piper! Lol...I’ll NEVER FORGET THAT! That was REALLY FRIGGEN WEIRD!
That schedule must of been brutal but probably a lot of fun. When I was in my 20’s I would of loved to have travelled around the USA & other countries with my friends.
I find the 23 min match intriguing. Based on Savage's reputation for meticulously planning out his matches before hand. I have no doubt Duggan was very familiar with their standard match. But having to go off script after using it so many times. Could of had some interesting results.
@@E_l_l_i_e Not according to most of the stories people told about Savage on podcasts. He didn’t plan every single match to the level of detail that he did for WMIII vs Steamboat, but all the other guys talk about him wanting to plan out the matches in advance with whoever he’d be working that night. Source: JR podcast, Austin podcast, and various shoot interviews with guys like Greg Valentine, Honky Tonk Man, Hogan, and others.
you legit had a real B roll of Glens Falls, I am impressed but surprised Hacksaw didn't go to this house show in Glens Falls since that is where he was from
Wow ! Great job mate ! I been a fan since 86 of every promotion under the sun , and watched millions of shoots , and THIS i had not heard !!! Very rare ! Thanx again brother ! I was entertained as i watched some house matches in that loop as a young fan ! I remember vividly as it was my first front row match . Perfect was drop kicked out of the ring doing his wild bumps , as he WAY over rotated and his arm spun passed me over the rail knocking my drink out of my hand ! I was thrilled lol ! I patted him on the shoulder as he he spat on he ground and jerked away mumbling " dont touch me shit head " in heel fashion !
At 46 years of age, I had two periods in my life when I was a massive wrestling fan. When I was about 10-11 years old in 1985/86 when I just loved Hulk Hogan and Rowdy Roddy Piper (and the Junk Yard Dog too, actually) . Then I got into it again in 1999/2000/2001 and that was exclusively due to the presence of The Rock. He was amazing back then!! These days, as I look back nostalgically to my days of loving the industry, and watching all of these WWF/WWE videos, I'm sort of taken by how many British dudes are MASSIVE wrestling fans!!! They all seem to be the biggest fans! Brits?!?! How did that happen? Anyone?
WWF and WCW TV both aired in the UK and from what I understand a lot of WWF's 90's pay per views aired for free on television there, albeit at really late hours for their time zone. Between that and when they'd go over on tours it makes a lot of sense how wrestling was just a big there.
@@wangson Wrestling was massive here in the '70s and '80s until the TV station killed it off(keep in mind, they regularly hit 5 million TV viewers per show in a place with a population of 50m) by simply cancelling their coverage because the new channel director considered it too low brow. The local scene never recovered from the blow.
Yeah we used to get all the pay per views free of charge from 1999-2002ish, which helped to follow everything They were split between a national network (Channel 4) who showed Sunday night heat and had 4 of the 12 pay per view shows a year. Then if you had a subscription to SKY (which is satellite TV) 'Sky Sports' showed Raw and Smackdown and had the other 8 'pay per views' for "free"
I remember being at a house show WWE in Cincinnati circa 88'. Main event was Macho Man vs. Honkey Tonk Man in a cage match. Other matches included The Rockers, Rick Rude, and Bret Hart was also there and had a match. I think I was in like 4th grade at the time. Edit: So basically B Show. The A show at the time would have had Andre, Hogan, DiBiasi, Warrior, etc...
Interesting hearing all of this about Springfield MA - I’m basically from there, right down the road. But I think I was 1 or 2 years old when this happened, I sure as heck wasn’t there lol. Western Mass represent!!
A former roommate of mine worked security at WWF events in Springfield in the 80's. He told me that Iron Mike Sharpe once lost his car in a two-story parking garage. 😜
At 6-10 my brother would take me to all house shows in Baltimore and DC. He would always say there won’t be a title change there are no cameras. It was like learning the easter bunny was fake over and over
Except for the times that Diesel won the world title, Steve Austin won the world title, Steve Austin won the intercontinental title, and The Rock won the world title. I think Bret Hart may have won the world title as well.
As someone who lives in the Springfield area, it took them probably 30-40 mins to drive to the closest large airport in Windsor locks CT. They most likely drove, would have been faster
gargett 7305 A formerly beloved presenter for Cultaholic, who has recently shown his true colors, bullying coworkers, disrespecting fans, and wearing Adam’s clothes while assaulting homeless people in Britain. A scoundrel, and it’s only a matter of time before someone does something about him.
Hey, neat! I see one of my photos at 1:11. Dangerous Danny Davis slamming Koko B Ware with referee Terry Yorkston nearby in Newmarket, Ontario in 1987.
They should be doing this now. Not them wrestle 3 cities per person but having Multiple cards with separate people. The rosters there. The star power is there. They just don’t know how to do it anymore. The networks even there if they wanted to cut up shows for it
I was a massive WWF fan from age 8 to 12 and once my father took me to a house show where Warrior took on Sgt. Slaughter in a steel cage for the WWF championship. Of course, the whole place went nuts for Warrior and some time back I looked up the WWF touring schedule from that time period and I couldn't believe what I was reading in regards to that schedule then. It would go like this: Fresno Sacramento Bakersfield San Jose Las Vegas Los Angeles San Diego
You are able to pull some amazing facts through your research! I doubt anyone else has notices these particularities about DiBiase's title reigns. Fantastic stuff.
I went to my first show... A house show...and i was only 6 but i swear i remember seeing the greatest intercontinental champion of all time the Honky Tonk Man must of wrestled a grand total of SIX times!! I remember bc my mom and I counted it tripping out on the amount of matches he had...looking back it was a full show everyone was there (musta been a months of prerecord for Superstars) and man the crowd was INTENSE!! I miss those crowds nowadays u can hear a pin drop... And of course we went wild for Hulk Hogan kicked Earthquakes ass and posed while we all went wild!! Good times much respect to HTM!!
I can't believe you did a video on here about that house show , I was there in Springfield with my family. My mom & dad were big wrestling fans and the said never been to a wrestling house show that long but it was fun we walked around , but was a long one miss those shows at the Springfield Civic Center
Gee wonder why a lot of wrestlers' bodies from that era were so jacked up. This schedule is borderline inhumane. Bret even mentioned those long travel schedules and double shots definitely played a role in wrestlers early deaths and even said Scott Hall was likely a victim of it.
when i hear House show, i always think of Diesel winning the belt against Bob Backlund in 9 seconds. it pissed me off that they didn't show the match on TV, i was pissed for years !
@@CNYKnifeNerd you know... it would not have shocked me at all anyone I meet from out of state I'm from MA they assume I'm from Boston even though I'm 90 mins away haha
The picture you show for "Auburn Hills, Michigan" is actually a photo of downtown Grand Rapids which is about 3 hours away from Auburn Hills. Just sayin...
@@bryondavey3763 for sure I mean if I could go back in time and save him I would either stop him before he goes into the building or if I have to sneak into it and stop him or even if it changes the future history warn him completely about what's going to happen and show him proof
@@somberstricken4424 I mean of course who wouldn't but a lot of people have already said that and I was just thinking of some other names besides the obvious I mean if I could I would go back in time and save every single one of them from Owen Hart to Eddie to Chris to pillman
You say St. Cloud, but show Minneapolis. Those cities are nearly 100 miles apart. Also, the 90s were a different time. 23 minutes sounds awful today, but many fans had, 10 years earlier, gone to territory shows where 30 minute matches were common and loved. Also, search for Cornette talking about Horner if you really want to laugh.
I went to a Monday night raw taping in the 90s at a local high school. They taped 3 episodes of raw that night. Shawn Michaels wrestled each hour that night, feuding with Bray Wyatts father.
Warriors opponent was almost certainly Andre. They worked TONS of house shows where Warrior would run out and beat Andre in around 1 minute. Only reason I remember this is because Andre assaulted a local news camera man in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and was arrested and my dad was at that show.
I remember a wwf house show in 89….. Richfield coliseum… headlined by Andre the giant, but almost half of the roster didn’t show up due to a snow storm… it was a strange card..
I went to a house show that was suppose to feature Batista vs Brock in the main event, but instead we got Scott Steiner vs Batista w/ Ric Flair and then Team Angle vs Brock in the main event
I was actually at this show. Can't remember a ton since its been 33 years but I do recall some things. The reason for the delay given to the crowd was that the flight for the majority of the talent was delayed due to weather. The Duggan-Savage match was solid but a bit drawn out same with the Bushwackers-Powers of Pain match. The Nikolai Volkoff - Jose Luis Rivera match on the other hand was without a doubt the worst wresting match I have ever witnessed. I remember a headlock that went on for what seemed like 5 minutes. I remember deafening boring chants echoing throughout the entire arena for almost the entire match until it mercifully ended. The Horner-Hart match was the other standout which was a nice little match until the leapfrog where Hart headbutted Horner square in the junk. Once the rest of the crew arrived it was just a run of the mill house show.
Wrestling shows had become so popular that they were going to run as many as humanly possible and why not? Those pulling the strings did not have to take the bumps to get their share of the money. To the wrestlers themselves it was just a job. I mean you can string out a 20 minute plus match with the right stalling and shenanigans, keep going to the floor. Apply holds on the mat to slow the pace down. Now everyone expects 80-90 percent high spots high impact moves. Making the loot without consideration of the wear and tear. You get hurt someone else steps in and you might still have your job or spot when you return. Or you might not. Top guys do and maybe some butt kissers.
1:18 I read somewhere that Vince never wanted Andre to take photos standing around with regular people who were tall as it would kill his 7'4" height but damn is Vince standing on something? Vince is not a short man but he's looking 6'6 next to Andre in that photo.
Well you have to remember that WWE exaggerates everything for "entertainment purposes". Wrestlemania attendance, wrestler details. Andre was probably a legit 7 feet at most, Kevin Nash did a shoot interview in which he expressed his surprise that Hogan, billed at 6'8", couldn't have been more than 6'5" or so. Vince is probably a bit over 6 feet, and Andre hunched a lot in his later WWF years.
I was fortunate enough to see two house shows back when after Warrior and beaten Hogan at WM VI. Both were similar (my 10 year old brain was at odds as to why Rick Rude fought Warrior in steal cages both nights), with a steal cage main event both nights. I forget which show, Madison Square Garden or Meadowlands, but in one of them, Rude jumped up on top of the cage to deliver one of many flying axe handles...and fell OFF the cage to the outside. I guess he landed and the stairs... and went back into the cage without hitting the floor. Lol, Would have been funny if he had "won"
Omg you can NOT say "tim horners" name without me thinking about Jim cornettes "EPIC burial" of tim horner. I'm trying so hard not to jump to that video instead!
My 1st wwf show was in small town arizona '89 bushwackers vs powers of pain as well as roddy piper vs rick rude main event, piper came to the ring in a white limo.
im told there were a few guys that would do that because you'd get like 100 bucks for the job and then your normal money and they had to to make ends meet
You talk about this “Horner” as if he were someone. I was a kid at the time and watched everything. The guy was a jobber. We referred to guys like him as “wimp wrestlers” the guys who got beat by stars on Saturday morning wrestling challenge.
@@briansickboy my gen of “flunkys were Barry Horowitz, the Brooklyn Brawler, iron Mike sharp,…..Ahhhhh, I drew a blank. That’s all I have for now. Run some off. I was like 10 at the time. My friends and I didn’t know the inside lingo. They got their asses kicked and they had hair on their chest LOL. We called them “wimp wrestlers”
I was at a house show at Anaheim Convention Center. Hogan vs Bob Orton. The turnbuckle broke and the top rope hung loose. But they still went thru the motions, stopping where the top rope shoulda been and running back at the opponent. I kinda thought wrestling was fake after that...
I remember this I remember watching old WWE programming likes WWF Superstars or wrestling challenge on Saturday at that time I was here Gorilla Monsoon do a voiceover for schedule matches in different cities and it appeared that half the wrestlers would appear to one city like you said and then during the other I remember the graphics oh well then be an airplane models and Gorilla Monsoon it's like join us in your city or in your town when WWE comes to your town
I went to a house show that had Ruesev vs Big Show before they had that match in ppv yes they Tested Big Show vs Ruesev and it passed but Ric Flair vs Hulk Hogan was booed out of the buliding I guess also Seth Rollins fought Roman Reigns in a table match
House Shows have been relegated to the Harlem Globetrotters. You get zero actual story developments, title changes or anything. In the old days, I'd have gone to a house show (if there had been any in Denmark) in the hopes that something that 'mattered' would happen. Now the only appeal is the few times performers may stray slightly from their TV character. But on the whole, they don't matter at all any more.
It's pretty clear to me what happened to the flight: Warrior tore down the cockpit door and pushed those controls into a nosedive so that he could get closer to parts unknown.
This deserves more likes
Explains where he got that part of his Wrestlemania 6 promo from
If he stayed on board, alone that would make my day...
With Warrior, Kane, Demolition, Papa Shango and Doink there, I bet their parties were a hoot
Damn you!! Now I can't stop picturing it, and it's the funniest thing I've seen in a while. TAKE THE PLANE DOWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNN!!!! BECAUSE IIIIIIIIII AAAAAAAMMMMMMM THE WARRRRRRRRRRRIORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! and then Mean Gene throws it back to Gorilla and The Body
And people wonder why wrestlers pass away in their 40-50s cranked to the gills with drugs. That road schedule was bonkers.
What's even crazier is listening to people like Meltzer talk about how they organized it. Today, if you're touring the US West Coast, you might go Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Diego. Pretty much north to south.
Back then, it would be like, Sacramento, San Diego, Seattle, Anaheim, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland. Just basically one long zig zag.
@@mfdixon1985 I once heard in an interview from one of the wrestlers, can't remember who, from this time in WWF and they said they'd get their booking sheet for the next month, a wad of plane tickets and left to it whether they liked their schedule or not.
They even said those writing out the booking sheet would often even miss out towns, for whatever reason, but then write it in on the under sheet, which duplicated the sheet above when written on to cover themselves, to get that wrestler in trouble with management. So they'd do say New York one night, have nothing the next night, and then have say a twelve hour drive for the show the next night, which was a one man road trip, where they got eaten alive for missing the night before as well as fined and have whatever plans for them used for another wrestler
If I were able to do schedules for house shows, I'd try to have at least one day off for every day on for each talent.
Not everyone tho look at people like the undertaker HHH Rock they didn’t turn to cocaine and pills it was tuff back then but a lot of wrestlers made them choices regardless of wrestling when it comes to drugs
@@litodat233 those guys prime was more in the 90s and later than the 80s that ground these men to dust.
this is so great to see. I was actually at that MSG show in 1989 for my 10th birthday. I remember my parents got floor seats and i could barely see anything but was excited to see warrior. when his music hit everyone stood up and blocked my view and warrior pinned Andre super quick and was gone. I think I was able to catch a glimpse of his arm tassels and that was it. I was so mad and it almost ruined what was a fun night for me lol, but I was so grateful that my parents took me to that event . Being a kid was great back then
I recall reading about those Warrior Squash matches in PWI at the time. Looking back it just seems to disrespectful of a legend like Andrew, but at the time (I was 18) it all seemed very exciting. I imagine it was awesome to be there.
Damn, traveling as a wrestler is insane.
I went to a house show at MSG in the 1980's where Jose Luis Rivera wrestled 3 times that night, what a workhorse he was.
The first WWE event I went to was a TV Taping with non-televised matches mixed in during the summer of 1995 and I ended up seeing Yokozuna wrestle 3 times. He teamed with Owen in a match against Lex Luger and British Bulldog. Then he and Owen wrestled a squash match. Then he subbed for an injured Sid to face Diesel in a steel cage match. That show also featured a Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart teaming with each other and one of Waylon Mercy's first matches.
I guess but how long were the matches? Like 15 minutes? I'd be happy to work 45 minutes a day for several hundred, possibly even a few thousand, doesn't seem that bad.
@@samuelwoods164 Wrestling is slightly different than flipping burgers or any other job however.
@@maxxdahl6062 agreed..... Pretty much every pro at that level (wwf/e, wcw, ecw, tna/impact, roh and aew.... And foreign promotions ) are all very gifted but it seems the hardest part of their job isn't what they actually do in the ring.... It's the travel, maintaining their physique and tan etc..... I'm not taking anything away from those guys though, they are athletes.... Im just making a point that their actual job is only usually a few minutes a day at most a 30-60 minute broadway and that I would be happy if my work day was only around 15 minutes and in that 15 minutes I earned around the same amount as I do in a week or possibly month.
@@samuelwoods164 And house shows are also a bit different in that they're non televised. Every one of his matches could have been 30 minutes to an hour. No TV time limits there.
The WWF also ran a house show in Nashville, TN (May 6, 1989) that was extremely stretched out on purpose to make it hard for WCW to set up for Wrestle War '89 - which was taking place in the same arena the next day.
Interesting, I was at the WWF House Show the night before, May 5, 1989 in Washington, D.C. on a rainy night. I was 13 years old and it was my first ever wrestling show. I saw Ultimate Warrior vs. Rick Rude, Tito Santana vs. Rick Martel, Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect, and the main event was Demolition vs. Twin Towers.
This is some awesome 👌 information 👏
Why does this info not surprise me? Vince McMahon was a malicious, petty, serpentine saboteur. (That's right: Serpentine Saboteur.)
@@jp6046 You saw an amazing card, my friend. I was blessed to see a similar card for my first-ever live wrestling event in January 1990 at Rupp Arena in Lexington, KY. Amazing memories of the Golden Era of professional wrestling. Never another!
89 was around the time as a kid I quit watching so I looked up the card. I saw the main event and I was thinking, my god, that's a PPV main event? Sullivan Spivey vs Gilbert Steiner. It made me almost laugh. Then I saw the undercard. How did that main event over Flair Steamboat? Or even Sting Iron Shiek? Heck, even the other varsity club match, Williams Rotunda v Road Warriors would be far better.
Oh well. can't judge by the main event I guess. The rest of the card didn't to bad. There was even a young Rikishi on there and a tag team I never knew existed with Johnny Ace and Shane Douglas.
Bret was so tough, to get those injuries and come back after only 3 1/2 weeks? Pretty crazy
he had no choice. Because despite Vince telling him he'll take care of Bret while hes healing the checks he was getting were practically nothing. What a shock, Vince says one thing and does another
@@razieltalos seriously, that guy is greed personified. He sues others for the same thing he did when he stole other wrestler characters in the past.
Who's Bret?
@@razieltalos Have you ever heard of "Heavenly" Kevin Lee Benfer?
No. He is a crybaby
You can see footage of Bret's injury in the Bravo match in 'Wrestling with Shadows' doc. Also, Hogan was the only one who had no use for a unionized workplace (he worked less house shows) but Ventura was the smartest wrestler of the decade trying to unionize. Mind blowing that to this day, they still have not, when every pro sports league has long since.
Hogan also went to Japan a lot and traveled a lot more than most
BUT how do you unionize when you got ppl jumping from promotion to promotion all the time?
Wow you guys know everything about everything... actually you guys don't know shit except repeating what you hear which is mostly rumor.
@@benpezzot8805 wow Hogan went to Japan alot and traveled more than most what info thank God for your comment it all makes sense now
@@robzilla730 wow great ? surprised you don't run a wrestling company.
I grew up in Morristown, TN. That's Tim Horner's hometown. I know that guy.
Any Jim Cornette fan knows Tim Horner too 😂
@@PapaCoco1128 I wonder if he ever gave him back his ring truck lmao
@@chivo5670 or fax machine
Vince is to blame for so many wrestlers dying young. The schedule he expects them to keep leads to the substance abuse and their bodies failing, while he travels in a private jet with his family.
The guys in Crockett and other territories were working the exact same schedule you oaf
Yes, that was after Vince nationalised it. And no reason to call someone an oaf just to sound tough in front of a computer.
Inshallah you get less dumber in the future brother
@@L-Dawg96 John's in his feelings. Aww
So...... They knew what they signed up for.
No wonder they ate pain pills like candy and shot up steroids, the schedule was so strenuous there was barely any time for rest or work out to keep the body builder physique.
Tim Horner so wanted to get fired even his picture gets replaced by Ronnie Garvin at 11:48
This is the same Building where @ a 1992 Matinee House Show, where Bret Hart lost the IC TITLE to the Mountie, who lost it two days later to Roddy Piper! Lol...I’ll NEVER FORGET THAT! That was REALLY FRIGGEN WEIRD!
That schedule must of been brutal but probably a lot of fun. When I was in my 20’s I would of loved to have travelled around the USA & other countries with my friends.
Woulda been some fantastic times
I have a good idea how those fans felt, I feel like I've been watching this for an hour
I find the 23 min match intriguing. Based on Savage's reputation for meticulously planning out his matches before hand. I have no doubt Duggan was very familiar with their standard match. But having to go off script after using it so many times. Could of had some interesting results.
It's an urban myth. He scripted a few important ppv matches, that's it.
@@E_l_l_i_e Not according to most of the stories people told about Savage on podcasts. He didn’t plan every single match to the level of detail that he did for WMIII vs Steamboat, but all the other guys talk about him wanting to plan out the matches in advance with whoever he’d be working that night. Source: JR podcast, Austin podcast, and various shoot interviews with guys like Greg Valentine, Honky Tonk Man, Hogan, and others.
@@MS-it9vv Honky Tonk Man and Hogan were made for each other. Lied so many times.
you legit had a real B roll of Glens Falls, I am impressed but surprised Hacksaw didn't go to this house show in Glens Falls since that is where he was from
And that suprises me savage wrestled on the b show
Wow ! Great job mate ! I been a fan since 86 of every promotion under the sun , and watched millions of shoots , and THIS i had not heard !!! Very rare ! Thanx again brother ! I was entertained as i watched some house matches in that loop as a young fan ! I remember vividly as it was my first front row match . Perfect was drop kicked out of the ring doing his wild bumps , as he WAY over rotated and his arm spun passed me over the rail knocking my drink out of my hand ! I was thrilled lol ! I patted him on the shoulder as he he spat on he ground and jerked away mumbling " dont touch me shit head " in heel fashion !
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Not only did this happen on my birthday, but it also happened on the day I was born. Weird.
It must be sign or something 🤔
At 46 years of age, I had two periods in my life when I was a massive wrestling fan. When I was about 10-11 years old in 1985/86 when I just loved Hulk Hogan and Rowdy Roddy Piper (and the Junk Yard Dog too, actually) . Then I got into it again in 1999/2000/2001 and that was exclusively due to the presence of The Rock. He was amazing back then!!
These days, as I look back nostalgically to my days of loving the industry, and watching all of these WWF/WWE videos, I'm sort of taken by how many British dudes are MASSIVE wrestling fans!!! They all seem to be the biggest fans! Brits?!?! How did that happen? Anyone?
WWF and WCW TV both aired in the UK and from what I understand a lot of WWF's 90's pay per views aired for free on television there, albeit at really late hours for their time zone. Between that and when they'd go over on tours it makes a lot of sense how wrestling was just a big there.
@@Drakkel Yeah...that'd make sense.
@@wangson Wrestling was massive here in the '70s and '80s until the TV station killed it off(keep in mind, they regularly hit 5 million TV viewers per show in a place with a population of 50m) by simply cancelling their coverage because the new channel director considered it too low brow. The local scene never recovered from the blow.
Yeah we used to get all the pay per views free of charge from 1999-2002ish, which helped to follow everything
They were split between a national network (Channel 4) who showed Sunday night heat and had 4 of the 12 pay per view shows a year.
Then if you had a subscription to SKY (which is satellite TV) 'Sky Sports' showed Raw and Smackdown and had the other 8 'pay per views' for "free"
@@fattomandeibu Whoa!
I expected this to be way more outrageous than it was. Turned out pretty lame...some delayed matches big deal.
I remember being at a house show WWE in Cincinnati circa 88'. Main event was Macho Man vs. Honkey Tonk Man in a cage match. Other matches included The Rockers, Rick Rude, and Bret Hart was also there and had a match. I think I was in like 4th grade at the time. Edit: So basically B Show. The A show at the time would have had Andre, Hogan, DiBiasi, Warrior, etc...
@2:35 You got a picture of Grand Rapids, MI when you say Auburn Hills. They’re on opposite sides of the state. Just saying.
Saw a house show in 99. Kane did his signal for fire but no fire came out. Really silly.
Interesting hearing all of this about Springfield MA - I’m basically from there, right down the road. But I think I was 1 or 2 years old when this happened, I sure as heck wasn’t there lol. Western Mass represent!!
A former roommate of mine worked security at WWF events in Springfield in the 80's. He told me that Iron Mike Sharpe once lost his car in a two-story parking garage. 😜
At 6-10 my brother would take me to all house shows in Baltimore and DC. He would always say there won’t be a title change there are no cameras.
It was like learning the easter bunny was fake over and over
Except for the times that Diesel won the world title, Steve Austin won the world title, Steve Austin won the intercontinental title, and The Rock won the world title. I think Bret Hart may have won the world title as well.
@@The80ProofShow at the time
In the 80’s I think it was pretty unlikely. Great Video
As someone who lives in the Springfield area, it took them probably 30-40 mins to drive to the closest large airport in Windsor locks CT. They most likely drove, would have been faster
Andrew broke my heart will never forgive him 💔😭
Sorry for asking but who’s Andrew ?
gargett 7305 A formerly beloved presenter for Cultaholic, who has recently shown his true colors, bullying coworkers, disrespecting fans, and wearing Adam’s clothes while assaulting homeless people in Britain. A scoundrel, and it’s only a matter of time before someone does something about him.
How did this news come?
Hey, neat! I see one of my photos at 1:11. Dangerous Danny Davis slamming Koko B Ware with referee Terry Yorkston nearby in Newmarket, Ontario in 1987.
They should be doing this now. Not them wrestle 3 cities per person but having Multiple cards with separate people. The rosters there. The star power is there. They just don’t know how to do it anymore. The networks even there if they wanted to cut up shows for it
Did somebody forget most states have covid restrictions at the moment?
@@The80ProofShow the entire world has COVID restrictions at the moment.
I was a massive WWF fan from age 8 to 12 and once my father took me to a house show where Warrior took on Sgt. Slaughter in a steel cage for the WWF championship. Of course, the whole place went nuts for Warrior and some time back I looked up the WWF touring schedule from that time period and I couldn't believe what I was reading in regards to that schedule then. It would go like this:
Fresno
Sacramento
Bakersfield
San Jose
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
San Diego
It seems that they were all over the place in California at the time; surprisingly they went to Vegas and then back to California.
"If you wake up at a different time in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?"
If you start seeing Brad Pitt everywhere I recommend you go see a doctor ASAP otherwise you might start blowing up buildings. 😂😂
@@adamcroft80 You can't die from seeing Brad Pitt everywhere, chew some valerian root and get more exercise.
"[...] an already confusing, soul eradicating live event"... you mean a normal 2021 RAW show?
Its sad as well amazing , that company still works its wrestlers in such back breaking routines.
That type of schedule would kill anybody. Not very glamorous after all.
You are able to pull some amazing facts through your research! I doubt anyone else has notices these particularities about DiBiase's title reigns. Fantastic stuff.
I went to my first show... A house show...and i was only 6 but i swear i remember seeing the greatest intercontinental champion of all time the Honky Tonk Man must of wrestled a grand total of SIX times!! I remember bc my mom and I counted it tripping out on the amount of matches he had...looking back it was a full show everyone was there (musta been a months of prerecord for Superstars) and man the crowd was INTENSE!! I miss those crowds nowadays u can hear a pin drop... And of course we went wild for Hulk Hogan kicked Earthquakes ass and posed while we all went wild!! Good times much respect to HTM!!
Another amazing video. What an awesome friggin channel, thank you guys for your hard work 🤟.
I can't believe you did a video on here about that house show , I was there in Springfield with my family. My mom & dad were big wrestling fans and the said never been to a wrestling house show that long but it was fun we walked around , but was a long one miss those shows at the Springfield Civic Center
Good video, but please, PLEASE, make more War Stories!! By far my favorite series you've done, and easily in my Top 5 overall (regarding wrestling)!
Gee wonder why a lot of wrestlers' bodies from that era were so jacked up. This schedule is borderline inhumane. Bret even mentioned those long travel schedules and double shots definitely played a role in wrestlers early deaths and even said Scott Hall was likely a victim of it.
when i hear House show, i always think of Diesel winning the belt against Bob Backlund in 9 seconds. it pissed me off that they didn't show the match on TV, i was pissed for years !
Should have had it on raw the next night after survivor series.
I always think of the curtain call of 96 when I hear house show
I'm still pissed
I paused at 5:36 cause it was too confusing, I can't imagine how they kept this straight 325 days a year. PROPS!!
3:17 I'm literally watching this video from the building on the left shown in the picture of Springfield, MA hahaha
At least they didn't show Boston for Springfield
@@CNYKnifeNerd you know... it would not have shocked me at all anyone I meet from out of state I'm from MA they assume I'm from Boston even though I'm 90 mins away haha
I don't know what is stranger the house show-card or Andrew turning heel.
The picture you show for "Auburn Hills, Michigan" is actually a photo of downtown Grand Rapids which is about 3 hours away from Auburn Hills. Just sayin...
That’s Grand Rapids not auburn hills
Back in the days of WWWF, it was pretty normal to have a 23 minute match. Those were the bouts where an arm bar was held for 10 minutes.
If you could go back in time and save any wrestler who is tragically passed away who would it be mine would be probably Owen Hart
For sure Owen 2nd would be Brian Pillman
@@bryondavey3763 for sure I mean if I could go back in time and save him I would either stop him before he goes into the building or if I have to sneak into it and stop him or even if it changes the future history warn him completely about what's going to happen and show him proof
Bruiser Brody
This is a weird question, but wouldn't u try to save Chris Benoit's family? Yea...
@@somberstricken4424 I mean of course who wouldn't but a lot of people have already said that and I was just thinking of some other names besides the obvious I mean if I could I would go back in time and save every single one of them from Owen Hart to Eddie to Chris to pillman
The footage shown during the mention of Sioux City is Des Moines. Not Sioux City.
@Willy Massey and lots of title changes in house shoes were non canonical results
You say St. Cloud, but show Minneapolis. Those cities are nearly 100 miles apart.
Also, the 90s were a different time. 23 minutes sounds awful today, but many fans had, 10 years earlier, gone to territory shows where 30 minute matches were common and loved.
Also, search for Cornette talking about Horner if you really want to laugh.
I went to a Monday night raw taping in the 90s at a local high school.
They taped 3 episodes of raw that night.
Shawn Michaels wrestled each hour that night, feuding with Bray Wyatts father.
I was a big Hacksaw fan as a kid in the mid 80s
Warriors opponent was almost certainly Andre. They worked TONS of house shows where Warrior would run out and beat Andre in around 1 minute. Only reason I remember this is because Andre assaulted a local news camera man in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and was arrested and my dad was at that show.
I remember a wwf house show in 89….. Richfield coliseum… headlined by Andre the giant, but almost half of the roster didn’t show up due to a snow storm… it was a strange card..
I went to a house show that was suppose to feature Batista vs Brock in the main event, but instead we got Scott Steiner vs Batista w/ Ric Flair and then Team Angle vs Brock in the main event
Still raging about the whole post-nostalgia millennial movement thing. 😐
What do you mean?
13:55, Bret mentioned this particular injury in his wrestling with shadows documentary from 1998.
I know..
One of the best things in wrestling is the ref being knocked out for several minutes after getting run into by a wrestler.
So.....people were late and some people had to stall? Wow! Incredible! Never heard of this before!
Weird because of the circumstances but hardly a bad card by any stretch.
I was actually at this show. Can't remember a ton since its been 33 years but I do recall some things. The reason for the delay given to the crowd was that the flight for the majority of the talent was delayed due to weather. The Duggan-Savage match was solid but a bit drawn out same with the Bushwackers-Powers of Pain match. The Nikolai Volkoff - Jose Luis Rivera match on the other hand was without a doubt the worst wresting match I have ever witnessed. I remember a headlock that went on for what seemed like 5 minutes. I remember deafening boring chants echoing throughout the entire arena for almost the entire match until it mercifully ended. The Horner-Hart match was the other standout which was a nice little match until the leapfrog where Hart headbutted Horner square in the junk. Once the rest of the crew arrived it was just a run of the mill house show.
Oh bullshit
You forgot to mention the part how Bret Hart almost died because he didn't want to do the job to Dino Bravo
I’m friends with Jose Luis and I asked him about this card and he said he was almost made to wrestle three times that night.
I used to go to Springfield civic center from 1974 to 1982. Every show with Bruno and backlund as champs always sold out.
Wrestling shows had become so popular that they were going to run as many as humanly possible and why not? Those pulling the strings did not have to take the bumps to get their share of the money. To the wrestlers themselves it was just a job. I mean you can string out a 20 minute plus match with the right stalling and shenanigans, keep going to the floor. Apply holds on the mat to slow the pace down. Now everyone expects 80-90 percent high spots high impact moves. Making the loot without consideration of the wear and tear. You get hurt someone else steps in and you might still have your job or spot when you return. Or you might not. Top guys do and maybe some butt kissers.
I visibly recoiled when you said 20+ minutes of the Bushwhackers.
Lmao for some reason the Tim Horner part cracked me up.
1:18 I read somewhere that Vince never wanted Andre to take photos standing around with regular people who were tall as it would kill his 7'4" height but damn is Vince standing on something? Vince is not a short man but he's looking 6'6 next to Andre in that photo.
Well you have to remember that WWE exaggerates everything for "entertainment purposes". Wrestlemania attendance, wrestler details. Andre was probably a legit 7 feet at most, Kevin Nash did a shoot interview in which he expressed his surprise that Hogan, billed at 6'8", couldn't have been more than 6'5" or so. Vince is probably a bit over 6 feet, and Andre hunched a lot in his later WWF years.
Show starts one hour later - or: Every wXw-Show back in the day. :D
I was fortunate enough to see two house shows back when after Warrior and beaten Hogan at WM VI. Both were similar (my 10 year old brain was at odds as to why Rick Rude fought Warrior in steal cages both nights), with a steal cage main event both nights. I forget which show, Madison Square Garden or Meadowlands, but in one of them, Rude jumped up on top of the cage to deliver one of many flying axe handles...and fell OFF the cage to the outside. I guess he landed and the stairs... and went back into the cage without hitting the floor. Lol, Would have been funny if he had "won"
Omg you can NOT say "tim horners" name without me thinking about Jim cornettes "EPIC burial" of tim horner. I'm trying so hard not to jump to that video instead!
Sounds like a normal WWE RAW today... it doesn't make any sense why it is on but it is on and people were watching it.
Can we please bring back the old school tag belts?.. Lol
Amen. They were the best.
My 1st wwf show was in small town arizona '89 bushwackers vs powers of pain as well as roddy piper vs rick rude main event, piper came to the ring in a white limo.
I think Brett Hart would wrestle as masked Mr. X as a jobber from time to time if needed, then main event the show at the end as himself.
im told there were a few guys that would do that because you'd get like 100 bucks for the job and then your normal money and they had to to make ends meet
Great video. Narration and visuals are awesome.
2:37 "Syracuse, New York" (shows video footage of Midtown Manhattan, NYC, 250 miles away from Syracuse)
The show must go on, and there's no business like show business!
You talk about this “Horner” as if he were someone. I was a kid at the time and watched everything. The guy was a jobber. We referred to guys like him as “wimp wrestlers” the guys who got beat by stars on Saturday morning wrestling challenge.
Me and my dad always called them “flunkys”
@@briansickboy my gen of “flunkys were Barry Horowitz, the Brooklyn Brawler, iron Mike sharp,…..Ahhhhh, I drew a blank. That’s all I have for now. Run some off. I was like 10 at the time. My friends and I didn’t know the inside lingo. They got their asses kicked and they had hair on their chest LOL. We called them “wimp wrestlers”
I was at a house show at Anaheim Convention Center. Hogan vs Bob Orton. The turnbuckle broke and the top rope hung loose. But they still went thru the motions, stopping where the top rope shoulda been and running back at the opponent. I kinda thought wrestling was fake after that...
I really love that intro music
If not for the finishes, they did good putting a show with limited talent together.
I love this series, keep up the good work everyone
I remember this I remember watching old WWE programming likes WWF Superstars or wrestling challenge on Saturday at that time I was here Gorilla Monsoon do a voiceover for schedule matches in different cities and it appeared that half the wrestlers would appear to one city like you said and then during the other I remember the graphics oh well then be an airplane models and Gorilla Monsoon it's like join us in your city or in your town when WWE comes to your town
I went to a show at the Boston garden in 1989 and saw Barry Horowitz wrestle 3 times, it was horrible
Great video. I went ahead and subscribed. Can't wait to dig into more content. We'll done.
It's crazy to watch you talk about the glens falls civic center shows from back then. That's where I live!!!!!
I’ve never heard anything about Tim Horner that makes me want to like him lol
Was really expecting Tim Horner to try to shoot on Brett or some shit...
I went to a house show that had Ruesev vs Big Show before they had that match in ppv yes they Tested Big Show vs Ruesev and it passed but Ric Flair vs Hulk Hogan was booed out of the buliding I guess also Seth Rollins fought Roman Reigns in a table match
I live in glens falls,ny about a 3 min walk from the roundabout pic you used. The Civic Center is right behind the roundabout.
The golden age of wrestling
"I concur with Tugboat"-Mean Gene
Hacksaw was also from glens falls New York. Little side note
Says Syracuse, NY and shows Midtown Manhattan. Interesting.
House Shows have been relegated to the Harlem Globetrotters. You get zero actual story developments, title changes or anything.
In the old days, I'd have gone to a house show (if there had been any in Denmark) in the hopes that something that 'mattered' would happen.
Now the only appeal is the few times performers may stray slightly from their TV character.
But on the whole, they don't matter at all any more.
This could make a fun episode of the Bruce Prichard podcast.
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