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I feel Bas Rutten and Master Wong can actually have an entire conversation by saying mostly boom bang bish bash and whatever sound effects dishing out a beat up can sound like
Gracies did!! full contact no holds barred and even gave some of these folks chance after chance to pick up the pace or change their attack plan ect...
@@kimw4323 very true Kim but I think those fighters felt intimidated because no one knew anything about jui jitsu or grappling at that time. It was new and before martial artist looked at grappling as insignificant or useless. Bruce Lee was right with his fighting philosophies as u know. Gotta be a well rounded fighter.
@@robmadrigal714 yupe... and mr lee also says that if you are not training, you are useless to compete!! hes the first real MMA fighter!! and MMA is elite due to using all the practical apps from many disciplines
all that BJJ is tried and tested, we know it works, over and over again.. gouging someones eye hasnt really been trained in a controlled environment.. it might just piss someone off.
That's because that was supposed to be a throat hit. He's not going to to hit the guy for real. His hand also supposed to gouge the eye but he didn't go for it.
@@min009 Its harder to grab that eye than you think and definatly harder than he makes it look. Personally as a WC and a BJJ guy In Master Wongs position I would recommend instead of grabbing for an eye hook, reach a little lower and grab the opponents left collar as far as you can reach around, then pull just like Master Wong pulled the eye hook. At that point you are literally choking the opponent with a blood choke, they try to pull against it they sleep faster, if they turn away to release pressure they just gave you their back. Meanwhile Master Wongs left hand can be striking, controlling an arm or assisting with the choke. Bas Ruten put it best IMO, "never go for an eye technique when your opponent has a better position".
@@tOOballs Bas Rutton tells a story about "Ninjas" coming into his class one time and while he was demonstrating the rear naked choke one of them said "oh I'd just reach back and gouge your eye out if you had me like that". Bas said ok then let's try it, applies the rear naked lightly and said "ok in three seconds I'm going to squeeze the choke but if you touch my face I'm gonna snap your fucking neck". His eye might hurt a little but you're dead in the literal blink of an eye. Moral of the story never use a pain technique (eye gouge, bite etc) when someone has you in a dominate position.
That's why Master Wong is so awesome...he's open minded and willing to learn from other styles and techniques to make him one guy you don't want to mess with. Great video.
@@peterpaulpoloan5414 kicking dangerous in street fights and being on the ground is dangerous in street fights as well. i do muay thai and im not kicking above the waist in a street fight.
@@josephsheff as you pretty much said in your last sentence. it's high kicks that are dangerous in street fights. but low kicks can still be very efficient. and this cuts both ways - you also need to be prepared to get some low kicks yourself. boxers aren't, because obviously there's no such thing under the rules of boxing. as a result their stance, while correct for boxing, is very bad from this point of view. muay thai is, i think, quite well suited for street situations because, if i'm not mistaken, a) it has elements of clinch, and even throws, b) its ruleset is quite liberal about punching too, eg. allowing strikes with elbows
Why do you want to see something like that so bad? What exactly is the point. People beat people. Not systems. What good does it do you to watch them fight a real fight? Why should it even matter? Because you think he is fake? If that's what you think, you should fly out and test him yourself, instead of saying you want to watch someone else do it.
lifetimeskater24 the point is Wong gives godawful advice and anyone who has a clue realises how reckless and irresponsible it is to do that. It will literally end up getting some poor fool killed.
@@ozramblue117 No he doesn't give "god awful advice". He shows you how you can deal with certain situations. YOU decide whether you want to use the techniques or not. Also, if you think his advice is so awful, why are you here watching his videos?
lifetimeskater24 for laughs. It started when he had a fit over Ramsey calling out his nonsense technique vs a RNC. Anywho it’s not opinion, it’s fact. His “advice” is nonsense and more likely to get someone killed than not. This isn’t some murky shadow world. Hand to hand in various circumstances is fairly well studied with proper info readily available. He’s a fraud who’s selling books, conning people for money.
We have all seen UFC 1 but it’s still a competition. Guaranteed one on one, weapon less fight on flat stable mats and the ref who will stop the fight and oversee fighters safety. Still no close to reflecting the realities of the streets.
Man shut up! U can't even head butt ur opponent inside the cage! Ppl who have practiced head attacks will break their opponent's face instantly! UFC guys can fight for real, but they were taught to fight with MMA rules!
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Master Wong dammit master Wong did it again! Now I’m on the road to self mastery as well! Thanks master Wong and for your amazing (totally would work in a real fight) fishhooking abilities! 🙏
Aaron Banzon I totally agree I have trained in both arts and the problem with wing chung is the stupid stance. I was very lucky that My master was proficient in both arts.Fighting on the streets is very different.
@@DAIXINYI exactly cheap shots not main weapons. Show me a clip were a fighter try to gouge his opponents eye or looking only to kick him in the nuts. A wing chun or any self defense systeme practitioner you remove them these things and they won't be able to do anything. Its like saying to a pure striker in mma he can't punch or kick.
@@ismas2633 not talking about that buddy, im talking about his holds counter attacks and other stuff, btw sparring has rules as well as gears, if you're not aware of that so fucking the nuts is a no no
Joe Rogan thinks most of wing chun is bullshit and there is little to no evidence in real world evidence to support it. In sparring or otherwise. There are, however a small amount of techniques (handtraps) that he thinks are useful. Aside from that, no he thinks most of it is useless in the real world.
@@BootyBot funny you say that 'cause he did mention and applaud Tony Ferguson in his efforts in using Wing Chun against Anthony Pettis at UFC 229. All in all you could be right though.
@@thatt-shirtguy9669 yeah that's why I said most, and mentioned handtraps. He said specifically that there are a few techniques that are effective (handtraps, tony Ferguson). But he prefaced it with "most of it doesn't work". I'm not saying anything new here that I didn't in my first comment...
@@BootyBot "I'm not saying anything new here that I didn't in my first comment..." Hence why I wrote "All in all you could be right though." If you can't afford to pay attention, I'll give you a loan so you can.
Yes. Its really helpful to see these guys together. Its something like trying to get an overall understanding of how different styles can cooperate to create an effective self defence. Sort of?
I’m so glad that y’all are putting out that martial arts is fluid and needs to adapt no matter the art. I did 15 years of traditional jujitsu and trained 2 years of wing chun under master Wong. It has saved me multiple times to be in a fight to be fluid and combine both arts! Thank you master Wong for your insight and wisdom!!
Did you completely miss what they were saying? MMA fighter n MMA competition wins every time. Restrict an MMA fighter n other rule sets and tables turn.
JJ3 138 People are too full of ignorance to comprehend a simple fact such as what you just said. Regardless of any style, it all depends on the rules and how well you execute and it immediately become deadly especially Wing Chun. But if you implement the rules, it’s one or the other that loses.
"If it's Wing Chun rules, Wing Chun wins" By definition, because, no matter which of the competitor wins, he would have done so with Wing Chun. It's obvious. Same for BJJ. In a no-rule competition, Wing Chun is no match for BJJ. Prove me wrong by resorting to real sparring instead of these theatrical reenactments and wishful-thinking-based strategies.
@@azizr1508 Well, I wouldn't say anyone. Everybody will win a fight against someone at some point. But let's not delude ourselves. Master Wong's system is laughable when talking about self-defense reliability. I dare anyone to prove me wrong. Use Master Wong's system in a real-life combat scenario (even in a controlled environment, like a bjj or judo gym or an MMA setting) and see how it goes. It's bullshit.
Last time I checked in self-defence scenario when you lie on your back on the pavement or roll with opponent you'll get your head smashed by untrained bystanders. There's footage of that happening on UA-cam too, search it up. Wing Chun can be adapted to work vs multiple attackers, BJJ is perfect for 1 vs1. Wing Chun is self-defence, BJJ is sport. It's really very simple concept.
@Planet Nube 2 they still use something similar to trapping legs...it's called chi gerk...it's similar to chi sao, but instead of using the arms they use the legs to train sensibility and techniques of defense, attack, deflect, trapp, etc.
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio why do we also have to have excuses whenever someone exposes in a weakness in the BJJ armour? It was staged, that wasn't bjj, he's not very good at it, he was old, he was young, he was poorly, he went to a bad school, he was tired after defeating an entire army of traditional martial artists.
@Jhon Mc Zaf thats quite a baseless claim youre making and with bias as well. You cant say this wont work because of what you think. Both are staged choreograph All i said was its good for master wong to go to other arts and learn more. Whats the harm in that exactly?
Belts don't mean anything. Plus there are other dangerous arts out there that will destroy any jutsu practitioners. For these type are very dangerous. Never assume anything my friend.
@@masterwong101 My Warrior mindset, confidence and displine comes from being a Retired Special Operations Ranger, WC and GJJ and just tools on my tool belt.
Street fights often involve guns and knives, so the best fighter is the most intelligent fighter. The mind is the most powerful weapon. Avoidance and keen perception of your opponents attributes can mean life or death. Grappling a knife is low percentage victory so kicking or running is better. Grappling a gun is dangerous, getting the barrel deflected from your body is the prime move. Situational awareness rules the day.
What I gathered from this video is that you cannot limit your self defense to just one style. This was obviously was a very choreographed fight. In BJJ you don't really walk in eating punches, there are several options on how to take an opponent down. The BJJ guy could've easily taken him down before he got his eyes gouged out, but I understand there was a greater point. I just wanted clear that up for those who haven't trained in BJJ. Also, there are some escapes from an armbar (if it's not tight). You face your opponent and gaple grip your hand. Sometimes I'd give my sparring partner my arm just to reverse it and end on a more domination position but it's risky. However, I do agree that a style competing in a other styles rules will always lose. What alot of people don't know is that alot of BJJ competition don't allow foot locks, judo doesn't allow grabbing below the belt and wrestling doesnt allow submissions. All these rules renders ones or another style useless. Muay thai fighter cannot outbox a boxer, a boxer cannot handle leg kicks. I doubt any style can out chi sao a wing chunner (if that even counts?). The difference between BJJ and Wing chun that I cannot ignore is that BJJ has proven itself to be effective. Wing chun has not. The best way to prove your wing chun is through competition (anyone recall the Ving tsun dude in the early ufc days get mauled back when UFC only had three rules?). I don't think Wing Chun is bad art. I don't like to think negative about any art. I practiced wing chun for two years and have taken some elements of wing chun with me. When I parry the jab, I pak sao. When I knee, I Gung sao, and when I am being mounted, I bil sao those Incomming blows (common in Mma). The hooks punches are basically with a wing chun fist (jabs and crosses aren't). Most schools now are progressive now these days. BJJ schools now take moves from wrestling and muay thai fighters are better with their hands and slips these days because of western boxing. Would i recommend wing chun as a self defense system? As someone that has experience in it, I would say absolutely not. If master wongs school is near you. I'd say it's worth trying. He seems progressive. Alot of his moves are simply just not traditional wing chun which is what my experience is. But Wing chun as a system just isn't practical ENOUGH. You get alot more out if your money from an MMA school.
ikr haha why wouldn't the guy holding you just stand still and let you get space haha. He's gonna be going for a trip or some kind of reliable bodyweight throw. Even a simple lift and tuck would let him slam the dude into the concrete really easily.
Hello master wong im not the youtuber i just copied the name of him and i have a question is taekwondo effective for a streetfight? How about 2 or 3 people will attack you? Can i you my taekwondo skills to deafeat them all?
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Me: *sees title of the video* "Oh I have GOT to see this." Conclusion: Good point to say streets have no rules. However, live training is the closest thing you can get to simulate the street safely. There are so many ways to learn a new skill without being thrown off the deep end by using simulations. Furthermore, BJJ, Boxing, MuyThai, have live training with 100% resisting opponents, and have been tested and Proven effective in the street after controlled training. I haven't seen Wing Chun, Kenpo, Kali Silat, Kung Fu, Tai Chi, or etc... Prove their methods in either live simulation training. Or the street. tl;dr: if you can learn to fly a plane in a training simulator, you can learn to defend yourself in live simulation practice.
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Can someone tell me which of both is more effective or stronger? I would like to learn a martial art but I've no idea which one. Thank you in advance! :)
. for people who are hating on Tai Chi - Master Wongs system follows the Tai chi alignments. So you people know that tai chi is actually very cool martial art if you understand the movements properly
I would argue Master Wong uses more Tai Chi concepts than Wing Chun. And, yes, Tai Chi is VERY effective if done with the martial mindset and people actually understand "why" the movements are performed.
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio I have been in multiple fights against multiple opponents [remained unhurt]. Multiple fights against single opponents armed with knives etc. [disarmed; small scar on left pinkie from one occasion]. I also fought at 7 years old against a 12 year old gang member [carrying a club] to protect my little brother... and I sent him to the hospital. So. No. You're incorrect. And fighting in a ring is VERY different from fighting in the real world. Rules change engagement. I move. People fall.
@@davidwilliams4837 you sent him to the hospital at 7 years old? Really lol please. You must be one bad dude now lol that is the impression you were trying to make. Your story of fighting a gang member with a club at 7 years old and you sending him to the hospital is clearly a attempt by a low vibrational low self-esteem key board warrior. So many know it alls who think too much and know little. Common sense is not so common with some. Such a far out story screams this out loud.
I meant to finish is clearly a attempt to sound knowledge in the field of self defense martial arts fighting etc. Such a far out story and added BS speaks volumes. You are a true master.
@@chasedreamsgetgains1825 yeah there's this hand technique where you use both hands and grab his wrist then push it down but I also had to apply weight as I did it otherwise I would've got suplexed
@@AssaultSniperB312 yeah man 100%. My instructor has us drop our weight to the floor, push the wrist down with both hands and pick a side to turn out of, works sometimes and it’s useful to know because it’s about all you can do at that point
Even the bjj guy knows he would win and if Wong did 5 bjj classes he would admit too. not saying bjj is the best but it is real and PRACTICAL. the difference from real vs "fake martial arts" is so simple. real martial arts like boxing, thai boxing, and most grappling sports work on angles, pressure, distance control, and timing. "fake martial arts" like aikido, and wing chun karate TKD have very little to do with any strategical parts of fighting and are all about generating power against an opponent standing still and not reacting and then claiming that in a street fight they would kick to the nuts and bite the eyes. yes their are many many many pro mma fighters that use the more traditional arts but they are used as supplement to the actual fighting skills that they already have.
joaquin flores You need to think again, he gets close to those guys, and they’re putting him in a click and ripping him to the body and head, this will be before he can do anything
You nay sayers must not do jui jitsu. I as a brown belt can keep you one the ground period. But let's say for instance your super strong and post to try to stand, as soon as you post you just gave me a leg and probably and arm, then it's tap or snap time
@@damiensouth1160 I also trained bjj for over ten years, competing and teaching. However as effective as it is, most is not useful on the street and can get you killed You need both it's better to be jack if all trades and master of none. Best to remove the ego it is not useful.
Plus I most of the time I won't have to take you down I "slip" and wait for them to jump into my guard thinking they have an advantage cuz I'm on my back
Thank you for this. A lot of videos are accrediting the effectiveness of complete martial arts systems based on the ability of individuals. Every tool is useful if you are proficient in its use.
And championship belts too. That's why despite knowing WWE is staged they still continue pumping $ into Vince Mcmahon's pockets. Trump being President is one big example what big buffaloes they are. LOL.
I've been in some type of fighting system all my life....boxing, maui, mma, hopkito, bjj, Japanese jujitsu, de tac, hand to hand, and currently in judo. All have strengths and weaknesses. All of them think their the best. Nothings full proof and if your out of shape forget about it.
No matter what happened in the past or the attention you attracted. Master Wong, expanding and entering other styles. Growing and learning. Nothing comes close to that. To that Master it's an inspiration. A small request, can you also bring in Kyokushin? Much resoect to you Master Wong OSU!!
people keep saying that the gracies proved that standing arts alone don't work but let's think more of why it didn't work and not about them proving whatever it s that people think they proved, which isn't completely accurate btw. key difference, the gracies weren't afraid to take a punch. probably conditioned themselves. as in, in any fight street or tournament, the punch is the most likely thing to happen.they get past the punch and they get in close and grapple. people don't seem to understand that back in the day, standing fighters didn't have the experience of handling grapplers. unless it's specifically in their system. an example, actually trying to understand the kata(bunkai) vs going on tournaments with rules. a kata bunkai gives you the skills to grapple in the streets along with striking. did most of them before entering that tournamnt(against gracies) practice bunkai like their life was on the line? chances are no, they just memorized the kata and didn't think much about it. a long time ago, they would have focused on it. well, to be exact, they wouldn't bother with the kata(therefore no bunkai). they would just learn first and spar, spar, spar until they were well rounded. i have a taekwondo background and i think even in that, if we just focus more on the hyung(their kata) and actually break it down to see how it actually works, tkd would also be well known for being well rounded. my kwanjangnim(sensei) told me that every martial arts that seems to not work in certain scenarios, all have a past version(non tournament, no rules. for the streets and/or war) that would work on all scenarios. we just made up some rules and tried to fit it into that mold. so of course it won't work. btw, he has a black belt in several arts tkd, karate, juijitsu and practices stuff like kali, wushu, kumdo(korean kendo), muay thai and other stuff that i can't think of right now(been more than 10 years ago). so when someone with so many styles says why something doesn't work and why it used to work, it kinda makes you think that it's all the same. i find it hilarious that most ufc fighters end up training in multiple styles that are almost predictable. bjj or wrestling plus muay thai, kick boxing or karate/tkd(i consider them the same thing from different countries). occasionally, we would get a boxing+wrestling combo that seems to work perfectly fine too. but really think about what all of them came from. bjj or more specifically the jj part, came from japan during their never ending civil war. that was originally part of a bigger system with what is now aikido, judo, kendo and other arts(but not karate that's from okinawa). why is that any important? people say oh bjj/jj wouldn't work on it's own, judo could be better if ony ____, aikido is a joke, kendo? we don't carry swords... well, back in the days of samurais, they were part of a system, for war as in martial purposes(that's where the word martial comes from). if you were to understand how the human body moves(like your life depends on it) i'm sure aikido would work. just like how bjj has to get in close to do it's magic. all the japanese arts i listed(not karate) were used by samurai to fight in a war scenario and we just took parts of it and made a separate art when the world was peaceful enough. the same applies to tkd, well to be more specific, what came before it. tkd is part karate, part judo and part ancient kungfu(super old, used during war) with some korean stuff sprinkled in. so realistically, we should be well rounded. but we've got tournaments to go to, kids to teach asap and milk that cash. so we know how to strike and clinch and throw. that's what we see in the ring. now, we don't even see that, it's mostly kicks in the olympics. muay thai's older version was like kung fu where it mimicked animals(used for war). now, it's a ring sport, they aren't getting paid to grapple on the ground or attack the pressure points. so they don't learn it the old fashioned way. kung fu/wushu also came from war. just because the xiaolin make it seem like it was for monks to defend themselves, doesn't mean that was the only place it came from. no, it came from when china was also going through a long period of civil war. they say that it came from india. fine, it came from india for the monks but how do you think the military trained their soldiers who were mostly farmers? martial arts, that's how(that was the style that went to korea as mentioned before). and back in the day before the cold war, they were allowed to teach kung fu freely as in with pressure testing. kung fu technically speaking should be the most well rounded martial arts but they keep getting checked by mma fighters and others because they lack real pressure testing and real sparring. wrestling and boxing, are true combat sports and if combined we get something similar to pankration. but where would these have originated from? probably dropping or breaking their weapons a little too often as it would often happen in war(ancient greece btw). they would need to use their bare hands to survive to grab their weapons or steal it from a corpse perhaps. it's a long and ranty way of saying this, all martial arts no matter where it's from, are well rounded. unless it becomes a combat sport as many of them end up becoming. then suddenly, it doesn't work anymore outside of it's own system. the gracies exploited that, they didn't prove that bjj was the best(wrestling would prove the same thing if that was the case), they didn't prove that traditional martial arts sucks and should be left in the dust. instead, they showed that within the tournament system(at the time), they knew where it hurts most and exploited it. standing martial arts should probably go back to their roots and practice the old ways and really pressure test them. i bet they will find a lot of their answers there. even my kwanjangnim(sensei) would occasionally have us hold a wooden sword and strike with it as we do tkd. it's really helpful to prevent us from just kicking around. we needed to get in close to avoid the sword, grapple to the ground and end it. kinda sounds like what the gracies did and what happens in a street situation, right? with that, i'm done with this ranty comment. i'm just tired of people claiming they know better just because they see something or their sensei said something or they are just arrogant and ignorant at the same time. i by no means am claiming i could take down a professional(i'd be tapping fast), but at lease i know the history and why it would be nice to have all martial arts looked through the same lens and not with bias. none of them are perfect, but all of them are well rounded if done correctly. most of them were meant to be well rounded for war after all, right? so why butcher them? that's my philosophy.
There is a best system. Jiu Jitsu is the superior martial art. The headlock/eye gouge position is ridiculous. You would be airborne if you tried that on me.
Avenging Demon I train with All American Folk style wrestlers. I am also the head BJJ coach of a Greco Roman Olympian. You’re talking out of your ass. I smash them all. UFC 1. Do you even train??? Get off your couch...
@@alfredomartinez2615 In your dreams. Go out and have a real street fight without rules. You would likely pee yourself. Lol Against two attackers Bjj fails and you are dead. I have had life or death fights on the street. Multiple attackers too. I couldn't use my jujitsu when I caught 5 or more at a time on multiple occasions. One time they all had blunt weapons 5 of them. I had to use my Kung Fu training against them.
Civilian Commandos M.U.L.S.A 1 v 1 I’m putting my money on the bjj guy “all fights start standing up” okay and from what I’ve seen someone always ends up on the ground.
@@michaelhendricks5449 bjj on the street won't be about sitting on your ass and starting to play spider guard and berimbolos on the attacker. they can take you to the ground WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT - it happens pretty often. thanks to bjj at least you've got a decent chance of getting out from the bottom position and breaking free before the other guy comes and hits you with something.
in the end, he is basically teaching people a very sloppy single leg with one arm...and then, supposing that the takedown actually works, he is telling them to literally NOT go to side control, and instead go DIRECTLY into their opponent's closed guard. If they try this against a mediocre jujitsu or MMA practitioner, they will most likely end up with a broken chicken wing or they will take a nice little nap.
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Show some videos of you actually sparring or a sanctioned fight. Only then should you be teaching. You hide behind phrases like "street rules" and "no holds barred". Well, mma is the closest you could get to a real fight, so do it! If your excuse to not do it is that there are rules such as no eye gouging then you're pathetic. Surely you got more skill than just eye gouging and crotch kicks. Guys do yourselves a fovour and stop following such no-names and join a proper striking/grappling gym to learn some self-defense.
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A big thing I have learned from Master wongs training is when in a fight for your life its not about matching a punch for a punch and it is most importantly being creative with your body to strike a person and successfully control them.
Thankyou Master Wong, I do basic movements every morning with pushups and have along way to go. It would be a pleasure to meet you one day. I am in Ontario Canada. Enjoy this Christmas time with your family and friends.
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So you gotta learn a little of everything ...so if you do that and mix your martial arts up...then you become an MMA man... So basically...just train MMA
Yeah, and a lot of great MMA fighters tend to come from a very strong background in one thing. And a LOT of modern "MMA" training now days is a cross between shitty wrestling, shitty muay thia, and maybe some decent BJJ because it is so prevalent now days that it actually isn't hard to find that. Really good MMA training usually consists of wrestling with high level wrestling coaches. Doing pure BJJ with a great BJJ coach/gym. Learning kickboxing, Muay Thia, Boxing, etc. from said respected coaches/gyms that specialize in just that. I'm not disagreeing with what you said. But in my 15+ years of martial arts training, I've seen a lot of what does and doesn't work. Finding a legit MMA gym that is actually very good is way more rare than people realize. And I've sparred with a lot of "MMA" guys that suck because they learn "MMA". So I agree somewhat with "learn MMA". But in my opinion/experience, if you want to do "MMA" right, get really good at two things. Pure striking (whether just boxing or MT or even taekwondo doesn't matter) and pure grappling (whether wrestling, BJJ, judo, sambo, etc doesn't matter). If you get really good at 1 pure striking art and 1 pure grappling art you'll be better than the vast majority of people who train "MMA". That's been my experience anyways.
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Try to hit him in the balls whit your feet I done this 2 time when the grab me from behind
@@zokajz1021 it doesn't always work
@@benitodifrancesco7254 feet rips balls
@@benitodifrancesco7254 praktice u horse stance very importend in any mma System for more strenght
@@zokajz1021 if you're facing Khabib you probably won't be able to do shit,but against the average guy you probably would
I feel Bas Rutten and Master Wong can actually have an entire conversation by saying mostly boom bang bish bash and whatever sound effects dishing out a beat up can sound like
Dont forget dang ga da dang ga da dang
Pop pop pop boom boom bap.. 😂
They will create a new language together
New music song
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I thought the Gracies already proved that in the 90's.
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Gracies did!! full contact no holds barred and even gave some of these folks chance after chance to pick up the pace or change their attack plan ect...
@@kimw4323 very true Kim but I think those fighters felt intimidated because no one knew anything about jui jitsu or grappling at that time. It was new and before martial artist looked at grappling as insignificant or useless. Bruce Lee was right with his fighting philosophies as u know. Gotta be a well rounded fighter.
@@robmadrigal714 yupe... and mr lee also says that if you are not training, you are useless to compete!! hes the first real MMA fighter!! and MMA is elite due to using all the practical apps from many disciplines
@@kimw4323 very well said. I respect wing chun and all martial arts because each have their own advantages and discipline as well as philosophy.
The BJJ guy taking down and finishing Master Wong looks realistic, Master Wrong defending the takedown looks fake.BJJ wins
all that BJJ is tried and tested, we know it works, over and over again.. gouging someones eye hasnt really been trained in a controlled environment.. it might just piss someone off.
That's because that was supposed to be a throat hit. He's not going to to hit the guy for real. His hand also supposed to gouge the eye but he didn't go for it.
@@min009 Its harder to grab that eye than you think and definatly harder than he makes it look. Personally as a WC and a BJJ guy In Master Wongs position I would recommend instead of grabbing for an eye hook, reach a little lower and grab the opponents left collar as far as you can reach around, then pull just like Master Wong pulled the eye hook. At that point you are literally choking the opponent with a blood choke, they try to pull against it they sleep faster, if they turn away to release pressure they just gave you their back. Meanwhile Master Wongs left hand can be striking, controlling an arm or assisting with the choke. Bas Ruten put it best IMO, "never go for an eye technique when your opponent has a better position".
@@tOOballs Bas Rutton tells a story about "Ninjas" coming into his class one time and while he was demonstrating the rear naked choke one of them said "oh I'd just reach back and gouge your eye out if you had me like that". Bas said ok then let's try it, applies the rear naked lightly and said "ok in three seconds I'm going to squeeze the choke but if you touch my face I'm gonna snap your fucking neck". His eye might hurt a little but you're dead in the literal blink of an eye. Moral of the story never use a pain technique (eye gouge, bite etc) when someone has you in a dominate position.
@Damien South - Ha Ha. Bas never fails to crack me up.
That's why Master Wong is so awesome...he's open minded and willing to learn from other styles and techniques to make him one guy you don't want to mess with. Great video.
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Wrestling and boxing would be a good combination for street fighting
Muay thai + bjj = a killer combination
@@peterpaulpoloan5414 kicking dangerous in street fights and being on the ground is dangerous in street fights as well. i do muay thai and im not kicking above the waist in a street fight.
You mean like the Greeks and Spartans
@@josephsheff as you pretty much said in your last sentence. it's high kicks that are dangerous in street fights. but low kicks can still be very efficient. and this cuts both ways - you also need to be prepared to get some low kicks yourself. boxers aren't, because obviously there's no such thing under the rules of boxing. as a result their stance, while correct for boxing, is very bad from this point of view. muay thai is, i think, quite well suited for street situations because, if i'm not mistaken, a) it has elements of clinch, and even throws, b) its ruleset is quite liberal about punching too, eg. allowing strikes with elbows
@Gabriel Gamez or you can even slip up by yoursef in the scramble
MASTER WONG VS RAMSEY DEWEY. MASTER WONG. PLEASE DO A REAL SPARRING VIDEO AGAINST AN MMA FIGHTER, AND NOT CHOREOGRAPH
He can't, he would be exposed
Why do you want to see something like that so bad? What exactly is the point. People beat people. Not systems. What good does it do you to watch them fight a real fight? Why should it even matter? Because you think he is fake? If that's what you think, you should fly out and test him yourself, instead of saying you want to watch someone else do it.
lifetimeskater24 the point is Wong gives godawful advice and anyone who has a clue realises how reckless and irresponsible it is to do that. It will literally end up getting some poor fool killed.
@@ozramblue117 No he doesn't give "god awful advice". He shows you how you can deal with certain situations. YOU decide whether you want to use the techniques or not. Also, if you think his advice is so awful, why are you here watching his videos?
lifetimeskater24 for laughs. It started when he had a fit over Ramsey calling out his nonsense technique vs a RNC. Anywho it’s not opinion, it’s fact. His “advice” is nonsense and more likely to get someone killed than not. This isn’t some murky shadow world. Hand to hand in various circumstances is fairly well studied with proper info readily available. He’s a fraud who’s selling books, conning people for money.
It’s like we’ve gone pre 1993 and nobody has seen UFC 1.
We have all seen UFC 1 but it’s still a competition. Guaranteed one on one, weapon less fight on flat stable mats and the ref who will stop the fight and oversee fighters safety. Still no close to reflecting the realities of the streets.
JJ3 138 either way, BJJ is more effective than wing Chun or whatever.
@@RealLilVodka I don't know Donnie Yen beat up 8 gangsters in real life. But, he also knows more than just wing chun.
Man shut up! U can't even head butt ur opponent inside the cage! Ppl who have practiced head attacks will break their opponent's face instantly! UFC guys can fight for real, but they were taught to fight with MMA rules!
Wing chun fighters never fought in ufc. Jon Jones and silva use wing chun
0:13 oh no he’s grabbed my wrist and face, truly a fight ending technique.
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Master Wong dammit master Wong did it again! Now I’m on the road to self mastery as well! Thanks master Wong and for your amazing (totally would work in a real fight) fishhooking abilities! 🙏
@@TheDanielmeeks 🤣🤣🤣oh damn!
Just a suggestion, show us some footage of you sparring and I'll totally consider training your stuff.
Aaron Banzon I totally agree I have trained in both arts and the problem with wing chung is the stupid stance. I was very lucky that My master was proficient in both arts.Fighting on the streets is very different.
You really think someone wants their nuts to be kicked and have their eyes pulled out or pokes plenty of times? Wing chun is not a sport
@@ismas2633 back in the day of Vale Tudo, there was no rules and no one proved those cheap shots worked.
@@DAIXINYI exactly cheap shots not main weapons. Show me a clip were a fighter try to gouge his opponents eye or looking only to kick him in the nuts. A wing chun or any self defense systeme practitioner you remove them these things and they won't be able to do anything. Its like saying to a pure striker in mma he can't punch or kick.
@@ismas2633 not talking about that buddy, im talking about his holds counter attacks and other stuff, btw sparring has rules as well as gears, if you're not aware of that so fucking the nuts is a no no
I legitimately want to know what Joe Rogan would think about this.
Joe Rogan thinks most of wing chun is bullshit and there is little to no evidence in real world evidence to support it. In sparring or otherwise.
There are, however a small amount of techniques (handtraps) that he thinks are useful. Aside from that, no he thinks most of it is useless in the real world.
@@BootyBot funny you say that 'cause he did mention and applaud Tony Ferguson in his efforts in using Wing Chun against Anthony Pettis at UFC 229. All in all you could be right though.
@@thatt-shirtguy9669 yeah that's why I said most, and mentioned handtraps.
He said specifically that there are a few techniques that are effective (handtraps, tony Ferguson). But he prefaced it with "most of it doesn't work".
I'm not saying anything new here that I didn't in my first comment...
@@BootyBot "I'm not saying anything new here that I didn't in my first comment..."
Hence why I wrote "All in all you could be right though."
If you can't afford to pay attention, I'll give you a loan so you can.
@@thatt-shirtguy9669 thanks, I guess.
Oh, boy! having these guys together is like watching a real life Avengers movie.
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Yes. Its really helpful to see these guys together. Its something like trying to get an overall understanding of how different styles can cooperate to create an effective self defence. Sort of?
I’m so glad that y’all are putting out that martial arts is fluid and needs to adapt no matter the art. I did 15 years of traditional jujitsu and trained 2 years of wing chun under master Wong. It has saved me multiple times to be in a fight to be fluid and combine both arts! Thank you master Wong for your insight and wisdom!!
Why don't you just have some MMA fights to prove that Wing Chun is an effective martial art??
Which is not.
hes gonna get fucked up worse than cm punk
Fucking idiot didn't you listen in the beginning of the video??
I'd rather see a WC fighter against an untrained street fighter to judge it's effectiveness.
Did you completely miss what they were saying? MMA fighter n MMA competition wins every time. Restrict an MMA fighter n other rule sets and tables turn.
JJ3 138 People are too full of ignorance to comprehend a simple fact such as what you just said. Regardless of any style, it all depends on the rules and how well you execute and it immediately become deadly especially Wing Chun. But if you implement the rules, it’s one or the other that loses.
"If it's Wing Chun rules, Wing Chun wins"
By definition, because, no matter which of the competitor wins, he would have done so with Wing Chun. It's obvious. Same for BJJ.
In a no-rule competition, Wing Chun is no match for BJJ. Prove me wrong by resorting to real sparring instead of these theatrical reenactments and wishful-thinking-based strategies.
I agree and in a lot of bjj schools they're teaching self defense. BJJ I think is much better for cardio as well for those times you just gotta run.
For master wong, whoever get his opponent nuts or eyes, he win,
I don’t think master Wong would win a fight against anyone.
@@azizr1508 Well, I wouldn't say anyone. Everybody will win a fight against someone at some point. But let's not delude ourselves. Master Wong's system is laughable when talking about self-defense reliability.
I dare anyone to prove me wrong. Use Master Wong's system in a real-life combat scenario (even in a controlled environment, like a bjj or judo gym or an MMA setting) and see how it goes.
It's bullshit.
Last time I checked in self-defence scenario when you lie on your back on the pavement or roll with opponent you'll get your head smashed by untrained bystanders. There's footage of that happening on UA-cam too, search it up.
Wing Chun can be adapted to work vs multiple attackers, BJJ is perfect for 1 vs1. Wing Chun is self-defence, BJJ is sport.
It's really very simple concept.
"all systems have to realize, that they have to come together. there's no best system" i like this sentences so much.
Everyone is a little biased in some way to their art. The moment you realize you need more than one art is when you start to grow
Yup, I do BJJ, boxing with a little bit of judo. Hoping soon to change boxing to kickboxing
0 1 facts that’s why I went from karate to Muay Thai now I’m in bjj judo and wrestling
@@hemi5.7awdpursuit5 nice dude
Be like water my friends
I'm an instructor grade in wing tsun (chun) and a bjj blue belt. Chun will lose every time.
@Planet Nube 2 they still use something similar to trapping legs...it's called chi gerk...it's similar to chi sao, but instead of using the arms they use the legs to train sensibility and techniques of defense, attack, deflect, trapp, etc.
impossing you will means nothing without skill and knowledge to back it up.
There is actually a lot of striking tradition Brazilian jiu jitsu so many people think there is no striking in jiu jitsu but there is
You know what is good to combine all of the different type of martial arts because you are more skilled
Its good that master wong reaches out to other artist instead of just staying within his comfort zone
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio both were staged
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio why do we also have to have excuses whenever someone exposes in a weakness in the BJJ armour? It was staged, that wasn't bjj, he's not very good at it, he was old, he was young, he was poorly, he went to a bad school, he was tired after defeating an entire army of traditional martial artists.
@Jhon Mc Zaf how am i blindly supporting him
@Jhon Mc Zaf thats quite a baseless claim youre making and with bias as well. You cant say this wont work because of what you think.
Both are staged choreograph
All i said was its good for master wong to go to other arts and learn more. Whats the harm in that exactly?
@@anftrew3775 why do people have excuses when people expose wing chun?
I love you Master Wong and I did WC for 10+ years and love it to. But as a BJJ Brown belt if I can get my hands you, you will lose period.
Belts don't mean anything. Plus there are other dangerous arts out there that will destroy any jutsu practitioners. For these type are very dangerous. Never assume anything my friend.
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@@masterwong101 I love how you're very thorough in your explanations and teaching. I'm also a subscriber to your channel.
@@masterwong101 My Warrior mindset, confidence and displine comes from being a Retired Special Operations Ranger, WC and GJJ and just tools on my tool belt.
Excellent video. Lots of very valid points made regading the different fighting styles. Thank you for your work. 👍
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Street fights often involve guns and knives, so the best fighter is the most intelligent fighter. The mind is the most powerful weapon. Avoidance and keen perception of your opponents attributes can mean life or death. Grappling a knife is low percentage victory so kicking or running is better. Grappling a gun is dangerous, getting the barrel deflected from your body is the prime move. Situational awareness rules the day.
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Bruce Lee said many thing then after his first real fight with Wong Jack Man he discovered that Wing Chun had too many limitations.
What I gathered from this video is that you cannot limit your self defense to just one style. This was obviously was a very choreographed fight. In BJJ you don't really walk in eating punches, there are several options on how to take an opponent down. The BJJ guy could've easily taken him down before he got his eyes gouged out, but I understand there was a greater point. I just wanted clear that up for those who haven't trained in BJJ. Also, there are some escapes from an armbar (if it's not tight). You face your opponent and gaple grip your hand. Sometimes I'd give my sparring partner my arm just to reverse it and end on a more domination position but it's risky. However, I do agree that a style competing in a other styles rules will always lose. What alot of people don't know is that alot of BJJ competition don't allow foot locks, judo doesn't allow grabbing below the belt and wrestling doesnt allow submissions. All these rules renders ones or another style useless. Muay thai fighter cannot outbox a boxer, a boxer cannot handle leg kicks. I doubt any style can out chi sao a wing chunner (if that even counts?). The difference between BJJ and Wing chun that I cannot ignore is that BJJ has proven itself to be effective. Wing chun has not. The best way to prove your wing chun is through competition (anyone recall the Ving tsun dude in the early ufc days get mauled back when UFC only had three rules?). I don't think Wing Chun is bad art. I don't like to think negative about any art. I practiced wing chun for two years and have taken some elements of wing chun with me. When I parry the jab, I pak sao. When I knee, I Gung sao, and when I am being mounted, I bil sao those Incomming blows (common in Mma). The hooks punches are basically with a wing chun fist (jabs and crosses aren't). Most schools now are progressive now these days. BJJ schools now take moves from wrestling and muay thai fighters are better with their hands and slips these days because of western boxing. Would i recommend wing chun as a self defense system? As someone that has experience in it, I would say absolutely not. If master wongs school is near you. I'd say it's worth trying. He seems progressive. Alot of his moves are simply just not traditional wing chun which is what my experience is. But Wing chun as a system just isn't practical ENOUGH. You get alot more out if your money from an MMA school.
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The only weakness in Wing Chun is ground fighting that’s why the late Great Bruce Lee Founder of JKD said to incorporate styles in Martial Art
Bruce knew about jj.
Bruce actually also learned allot of karate, kickboxing, taekwondo and boxing. Wing Chun was only his very first beginning.
Head movement is another super big weakness also
Great video and information as always!
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3:25 that mat return defense was waaaaack you’d get sucked back so fast 😂
Mason Kinney yeah you can easily just get pulled back and it’s about a 80% fall rate for you
ikr haha why wouldn't the guy holding you just stand still and let you get space haha. He's gonna be going for a trip or some kind of reliable bodyweight throw. Even a simple lift and tuck would let him slam the dude into the concrete really easily.
The martial arts were separated into "before and after" Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
“Have no more kid”
Love your one liners 😂👍🏻
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3:19 i laughed too hard
Hello master wong im not the youtuber i just copied the name of him and i have a question is taekwondo effective for a streetfight? How about 2 or 3 people will attack you? Can i you my taekwondo skills to deafeat them all?
The possibilities are on the Jujitsu's side. We provided this in the early stages of the UFC with The Gracie Family.
Who Win?
When you do it the Wong way, you lose...😂
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The way of the Wong is long and hard
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Short, too easy and Wong....
Master Wong
Seminar promotes bad techniques, bad hand to hand combat..... no coping skills.....just all WONG
Me: *sees title of the video* "Oh I have GOT to see this."
Conclusion: Good point to say streets have no rules. However, live training is the closest thing you can get to simulate the street safely. There are so many ways to learn a new skill without being thrown off the deep end by using simulations. Furthermore, BJJ, Boxing, MuyThai, have live training with 100% resisting opponents, and have been tested and Proven effective in the street after controlled training. I haven't seen Wing Chun, Kenpo, Kali Silat, Kung Fu, Tai Chi, or etc... Prove their methods in either live simulation training. Or the street.
tl;dr: if you can learn to fly a plane in a training simulator, you can learn to defend yourself in live simulation practice.
Kali has definitely been proven to work
@@sharpie6888 I will gladly recant my position on kali if I am presented with evidence to prove otherwise.
"In the street there's no rules....."
Wait, WHHHAAAT?!!! 🤯😮. All this time I have been waisting my time in daily brawls around town fighting according to the guidelines of Lord Grenwald's Laws of Gentleman Combat😜. Thank you Tai Chi fairies!!
Can someone tell me which of both is more effective or stronger? I would like to learn a martial art but I've no idea which one.
Thank you in advance! :)
BJJ/MMA/Muay Thai/boxing/wrestling/Judo. Those are the best styles in the world because of daily live sparring and conditioning.
Really good video💪
The training means nothing!
Its the will to act
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@762x35mm Lol i know! You must have never seen Batman Begins lol
Muscle memory is faster than brain and speed is important.
@762x35mm Give it a watch again, great movie
Martial arts it not about winning and losing its about becoming a better version of yourself
Run-fu is always winning on the streets
Jhonny Baloba that’s some gay-fu
What if your too slow? 🤔
@@hmt-0764 then you take a taxi
@@johnraina4828 what if I'm broke
Throw sand technique and nut attack are effective too
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for people who are hating on Tai Chi - Master Wongs system follows the Tai chi alignments.
So you people know that tai chi is actually very cool martial art if you understand the movements properly
I would argue Master Wong uses more Tai Chi concepts than Wing Chun. And, yes, Tai Chi is VERY effective if done with the martial mindset and people actually understand "why" the movements are performed.
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio
I have been in multiple fights against multiple opponents [remained unhurt]. Multiple fights against single opponents armed with knives etc. [disarmed; small scar on left pinkie from one occasion]. I also fought at 7 years old against a 12 year old gang member [carrying a club] to protect my little brother... and I sent him to the hospital.
So. No. You're incorrect.
And fighting in a ring is VERY different from fighting in the real world. Rules change engagement. I move. People fall.
@@davidwilliams4837 you sent him to the hospital at 7 years old? Really lol please. You must be one bad dude now lol that is the impression you were trying to make. Your story of fighting a gang member with a club at 7 years old and you sending him to the hospital is clearly a attempt by a low vibrational low self-esteem key board warrior. So many know it alls who think too much and know little. Common sense is not so common with some. Such a far out story screams this out loud.
@@davidwilliams4837 You truely are Great aren't you?
I meant to finish is clearly a attempt to sound knowledge in the field of self defense martial arts fighting etc. Such a far out story and added BS speaks volumes. You are a true master.
If in real fight you can hit the throat and gouge the eye
0:35
Master won’t: street rule😂😂
Other guy: THERES NO RULE😂
Master Wong’s reaction
Brio Brio Street rule really mean it no rule👊👊 only rule is going home safe
Master Wong love ur vids
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Make an video on ur favourite combination of strikes
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Really nice that you making these types of video! Very helpful, hope to see more videos like this one in future! Master Wong wins at life!
3:19 you cant break free like that you'll be pulled in harder and probably be slammed
nigga that is wrestling 101. the guy is actually an insanely good martial artist who's trained lots of fighters, unlike this clown and his wing chun
If someone takes your back then your already f!cked. Dropping your weight or applying that defense is about the only option you have at that point
@@chasedreamsgetgains1825 yeah there's this hand technique where you use both hands and grab his wrist then push it down but I also had to apply weight as I did it otherwise I would've got suplexed
@@AssaultSniperB312 yeah man 100%. My instructor has us drop our weight to the floor, push the wrist down with both hands and pick a side to turn out of, works sometimes and it’s useful to know because it’s about all you can do at that point
@@chasedreamsgetgains1825 yeah training helps the more the better and when it comes to street fight its pretty damn nasty
The blending of arts...👍
Even the bjj guy knows he would win and if Wong did 5 bjj classes he would admit too. not saying bjj is the best but it is real and PRACTICAL. the difference from real vs "fake martial arts" is so simple. real martial arts like boxing, thai boxing, and most grappling sports work on angles, pressure, distance control, and timing. "fake martial arts" like aikido, and wing chun karate TKD have very little to do with any strategical parts of fighting and are all about generating power against an opponent standing still and not reacting and then claiming that in a street fight they would kick to the nuts and bite the eyes. yes their are many many many pro mma fighters that use the more traditional arts but they are used as supplement to the actual fighting skills that they already have.
Kudos to you for not being so overconfident. Thanks for being respectful.
I’m sorry but if a relatively experienced muay tai guy would beat the shit out of master Wong
Lewis301202 Im not sure about that
joaquin flores
You need to think again, he gets close to those guys, and they’re putting him in a click and ripping him to the body and head, this will be before he can do anything
The is truly a great great video. Once again thank you Master Wong.
the BJJ brown belt died because Cheek pinch finish move, that's legit!🥋☠️
edit: reach around Cheek pinch
Hey master wong, why is it wing chun only has one punch but so many blocks?
Snoop menuce took Brazilian jujutsu classes
Brown belt’s facial expressions had me dying 😂
Kyle Johnson I seen that too
Great team ... I want to see more with these guys!!
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Wing chung sucks a lot. 0 mobility and 0 movement of the head while striking. This guy is an absolutely lier
Is biting a good technique?
That's it, BJJ instructor correctly said: "no better marital art , only you should give the best of you" bravo!
If he get to the ground your screwed
Not necessarily
No that is the defeatest attitude. If you are good on the ground and know the best and safest way to get back to your feet then it's by no means over.
You nay sayers must not do jui jitsu. I as a brown belt can keep you one the ground period. But let's say for instance your super strong and post to try to stand, as soon as you post you just gave me a leg and probably and arm, then it's tap or snap time
@@damiensouth1160 I also trained bjj for over ten years, competing and teaching. However as effective as it is, most is not useful on the street and can get you killed You need both it's better to be jack if all trades and master of none. Best to remove the ego it is not useful.
Plus I most of the time I won't have to take you down I "slip" and wait for them to jump into my guard thinking they have an advantage cuz I'm on my back
Thank you for this. A lot of videos are accrediting the effectiveness of complete martial arts systems based on the ability of individuals. Every tool is useful if you are proficient in its use.
thomasgroov3r there is no such thing as a complete martial art
I can just see the fact that this jiu jitsu guy knows he could break every bone in “Master Wong’s ” body and there is nothing he could do about it.
Lol ok if you say so Kung Fu is deadly your wrong Wong will destroy bjj
ric ardo
Nope, wing chun is used nowhere outside of movies and wing chun dojos. No success in MMA and is not even used by any police or military.
ric ardo you’ve never been in a fight have you?
@@thadolivetti8362 hey don't worry about that dick face whether or not I've been in a fight or not
Okay dumb f*** I can see the fact that wing Chun will destroy that jiu jitsu
You can say this a million times, but westerners particularly Americans believe in style.
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And championship belts too. That's why despite knowing WWE is staged they still continue pumping $ into Vince Mcmahon's pockets. Trump being President is one big example what big buffaloes they are. LOL.
awesome video Mr. Wong! Top level martial artists working together right here. Much respect to the Pitmaster John Hackleman's school too.
I've been in some type of fighting system all my life....boxing, maui, mma, hopkito, bjj, Japanese jujitsu, de tac, hand to hand, and currently in judo. All have strengths and weaknesses. All of them think their the best. Nothings full proof and if your out of shape forget about it.
You've had so much life experience yet you think "full proof" is a term...
@Mr. Mark I know you posted this a year ago but I wish every Martial Artist could read your post!
No matter what happened in the past or the attention you attracted.
Master Wong, expanding and entering other styles. Growing and learning. Nothing comes close to that. To that Master it's an inspiration.
A small request, can you also bring in Kyokushin?
Much resoect to you Master Wong
OSU!!
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LightKingdomKnight 1 oh yeah
people keep saying that the gracies proved that standing arts alone don't work but let's think more of why it didn't work and not about them proving whatever it s that people think they proved, which isn't completely accurate btw.
key difference, the gracies weren't afraid to take a punch. probably conditioned themselves. as in, in any fight street or tournament, the punch is the most likely thing to happen.they get past the punch and they get in close and grapple. people don't seem to understand that back in the day, standing fighters didn't have the experience of handling grapplers. unless it's specifically in their system. an example, actually trying to understand the kata(bunkai) vs going on tournaments with rules. a kata bunkai gives you the skills to grapple in the streets along with striking. did most of them before entering that tournamnt(against gracies) practice bunkai like their life was on the line? chances are no, they just memorized the kata and didn't think much about it. a long time ago, they would have focused on it. well, to be exact, they wouldn't bother with the kata(therefore no bunkai). they would just learn first and spar, spar, spar until they were well rounded. i have a taekwondo background and i think even in that, if we just focus more on the hyung(their kata) and actually break it down to see how it actually works, tkd would also be well known for being well rounded. my kwanjangnim(sensei) told me that every martial arts that seems to not work in certain scenarios, all have a past version(non tournament, no rules. for the streets and/or war) that would work on all scenarios. we just made up some rules and tried to fit it into that mold. so of course it won't work. btw, he has a black belt in several arts tkd, karate, juijitsu and practices stuff like kali, wushu, kumdo(korean kendo), muay thai and other stuff that i can't think of right now(been more than 10 years ago). so when someone with so many styles says why something doesn't work and why it used to work, it kinda makes you think that it's all the same.
i find it hilarious that most ufc fighters end up training in multiple styles that are almost predictable. bjj or wrestling plus muay thai, kick boxing or karate/tkd(i consider them the same thing from different countries). occasionally, we would get a boxing+wrestling combo that seems to work perfectly fine too. but really think about what all of them came from. bjj or more specifically the jj part, came from japan during their never ending civil war. that was originally part of a bigger system with what is now aikido, judo, kendo and other arts(but not karate that's from okinawa). why is that any important? people say oh bjj/jj wouldn't work on it's own, judo could be better if ony ____, aikido is a joke, kendo? we don't carry swords... well, back in the days of samurais, they were part of a system, for war as in martial purposes(that's where the word martial comes from). if you were to understand how the human body moves(like your life depends on it) i'm sure aikido would work. just like how bjj has to get in close to do it's magic. all the japanese arts i listed(not karate) were used by samurai to fight in a war scenario and we just took parts of it and made a separate art when the world was peaceful enough. the same applies to tkd, well to be more specific, what came before it. tkd is part karate, part judo and part ancient kungfu(super old, used during war) with some korean stuff sprinkled in. so realistically, we should be well rounded. but we've got tournaments to go to, kids to teach asap and milk that cash. so we know how to strike and clinch and throw. that's what we see in the ring. now, we don't even see that, it's mostly kicks in the olympics. muay thai's older version was like kung fu where it mimicked animals(used for war). now, it's a ring sport, they aren't getting paid to grapple on the ground or attack the pressure points. so they don't learn it the old fashioned way.
kung fu/wushu also came from war. just because the xiaolin make it seem like it was for monks to defend themselves, doesn't mean that was the only place it came from. no, it came from when china was also going through a long period of civil war. they say that it came from india. fine, it came from india for the monks but how do you think the military trained their soldiers who were mostly farmers? martial arts, that's how(that was the style that went to korea as mentioned before). and back in the day before the cold war, they were allowed to teach kung fu freely as in with pressure testing. kung fu technically speaking should be the most well rounded martial arts but they keep getting checked by mma fighters and others because they lack real pressure testing and real sparring. wrestling and boxing, are true combat sports and if combined we get something similar to pankration. but where would these have originated from? probably dropping or breaking their weapons a little too often as it would often happen in war(ancient greece btw). they would need to use their bare hands to survive to grab their weapons or steal it from a corpse perhaps.
it's a long and ranty way of saying this, all martial arts no matter where it's from, are well rounded. unless it becomes a combat sport as many of them end up becoming. then suddenly, it doesn't work anymore outside of it's own system. the gracies exploited that, they didn't prove that bjj was the best(wrestling would prove the same thing if that was the case), they didn't prove that traditional martial arts sucks and should be left in the dust. instead, they showed that within the tournament system(at the time), they knew where it hurts most and exploited it. standing martial arts should probably go back to their roots and practice the old ways and really pressure test them. i bet they will find a lot of their answers there. even my kwanjangnim(sensei) would occasionally have us hold a wooden sword and strike with it as we do tkd. it's really helpful to prevent us from just kicking around. we needed to get in close to avoid the sword, grapple to the ground and end it. kinda sounds like what the gracies did and what happens in a street situation, right?
with that, i'm done with this ranty comment. i'm just tired of people claiming they know better just because they see something or their sensei said something or they are just arrogant and ignorant at the same time. i by no means am claiming i could take down a professional(i'd be tapping fast), but at lease i know the history and why it would be nice to have all martial arts looked through the same lens and not with bias. none of them are perfect, but all of them are well rounded if done correctly. most of them were meant to be well rounded for war after all, right? so why butcher them? that's my philosophy.
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Yeah but people forgot that we are talking about Master Wong here, he can kick anyones ass!
Jiu-jitsu is the best way for all problems 😁
Wrong. Lol
Can I please see one real fight from master wrong? I don't care if he loses 30 seconds of the 1st round I'd respect him long has it's a real fight
Royal Flush real martial artists don’t get into fights to prove anything. If a fight happens hopefully you have the tools to deal with it.
@@axelstone3131 that don't even makes sense
There is a best system. Jiu Jitsu is the superior martial art. The headlock/eye gouge position is ridiculous. You would be airborne if you tried that on me.
Avenging Demon I train with All American Folk style wrestlers. I am also the head BJJ coach of a Greco Roman Olympian. You’re talking out of your ass. I smash them all. UFC 1. Do you even train??? Get off your couch...
@@alfredomartinez2615 In your dreams. Go out and have a real street fight without rules. You would likely pee yourself. Lol Against two attackers Bjj fails and you are dead. I have had life or death fights on the street. Multiple attackers too. I couldn't use my jujitsu when I caught 5 or more at a time on multiple occasions. One time they all had blunt weapons 5 of them. I had to use my Kung Fu training against them.
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@@alfredomartinez2615 you should try kung fu an a legit school with full contact sparring, you will change your mind
Try jujitsu against two or more attackers and you fail.
In a real fight you can bite the jiu jitsu guy.
7:40 is like a boxing clinch. Sometimes you'll boxer sweep or trip an opponent...sometimes get a warning or point taken away from.
Another thing is all martial art good but you need to mix and get a good blend of martial art.
Exactly 👍
Hence MMA.........
@@mrj.3147 MMA is NOT a Martial Art into itself. Merely a buffet style selection.
Choreography is not fightng!
Street fight : Jiu Jitsu everytime.
MMA vs Wing Chung everytime all day. Ground game and grappling game are too important not to have.
Civilian Commandos M.U.L.S.A bjj works until his buddy comes up and hits you with a brick
@@michaelhendricks5449 Wong would be destroyed by any legit fighter out there. Lol What you say is true though. Fighting multiple people is tough.
Civilian Commandos M.U.L.S.A 1 v 1 I’m putting my money on the bjj guy “all fights start standing up” okay and from what I’ve seen someone always ends up on the ground.
@@michaelhendricks5449 bjj on the street won't be about sitting on your ass and starting to play spider guard and berimbolos on the attacker.
they can take you to the ground WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT - it happens pretty often. thanks to bjj at least you've got a decent chance of getting out from the bottom position and breaking free before the other guy comes and hits you with something.
We always see Master Wong teach but I wanted to see him in a real match!!!
It was very good master, as always... Good luck
Master Wong all the people involved in the video respect due.
Im the first one
someone has to be
in the end, he is basically teaching people a very sloppy single leg with one arm...and then, supposing that the takedown actually works, he is telling them to literally NOT go to side control, and instead go DIRECTLY into their opponent's closed guard. If they try this against a mediocre jujitsu or MMA practitioner, they will most likely end up with a broken chicken wing or they will take a nice little nap.
How many stages or belts from basic to master or Black belt in wingchun?
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Show some videos of you actually sparring or a sanctioned fight. Only then should you be teaching. You hide behind phrases like "street rules" and "no holds barred". Well, mma is the closest you could get to a real fight, so do it! If your excuse to not do it is that there are rules such as no eye gouging then you're pathetic. Surely you got more skill than just eye gouging and crotch kicks.
Guys do yourselves a fovour and stop following such no-names and join a proper striking/grappling gym to learn some self-defense.
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Just a thought I'd love to see a Capoeira video it's such a unique fighting style
Ah shit i missed the stream
Wow- great video. Keep it rolling...
Ok cool keep trainings
A big thing I have learned from Master wongs training is when in a fight for your life its not about matching a punch for a punch and it is most importantly being creative with your body to strike a person and successfully control them.
Ok cool keep trainings 👊👊🙏
Thankyou Master Wong, I do basic movements every morning with pushups and have along way to go. It would be a pleasure to meet you one day. I am in Ontario Canada. Enjoy this Christmas time with your family and friends.
I am from India and love you sir
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Wing Chun is a joke. Styles do win fights
Fuck you
You obviously don't know shit from clay
@@danbosch417 I'd fight master and kick his ass
This is such an awesome video!
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The older guy looks like a stoner he reminds me of the guy from the mister show
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I want to see you against a real Brazilian practicing jiujitsu
So you gotta learn a little of everything ...so if you do that and mix your martial arts up...then you become an MMA man... So basically...just train MMA
Yeah, and a lot of great MMA fighters tend to come from a very strong background in one thing. And a LOT of modern "MMA" training now days is a cross between shitty wrestling, shitty muay thia, and maybe some decent BJJ because it is so prevalent now days that it actually isn't hard to find that. Really good MMA training usually consists of wrestling with high level wrestling coaches. Doing pure BJJ with a great BJJ coach/gym. Learning kickboxing, Muay Thia, Boxing, etc. from said respected coaches/gyms that specialize in just that. I'm not disagreeing with what you said. But in my 15+ years of martial arts training, I've seen a lot of what does and doesn't work. Finding a legit MMA gym that is actually very good is way more rare than people realize. And I've sparred with a lot of "MMA" guys that suck because they learn "MMA". So I agree somewhat with "learn MMA". But in my opinion/experience, if you want to do "MMA" right, get really good at two things. Pure striking (whether just boxing or MT or even taekwondo doesn't matter) and pure grappling (whether wrestling, BJJ, judo, sambo, etc doesn't matter). If you get really good at 1 pure striking art and 1 pure grappling art you'll be better than the vast majority of people who train "MMA". That's been my experience anyways.
Soo is MMA most effective?
yes, Ufc has proven that
I remember asking Master Wong this about 3 years ago. Respect for doing a video!
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