I think it looks like an awesome headset, I just worry that the fov will be abysmal. The quest 2 is already to narrow for my taste & I think this will have a smaller fov than that.
@@melomaniakjm on the other hand, I've been wanting a better displayport/ tethered pcvr headset. PCVR has needed something besides index/ hp reverb g2. quest 2/ pico 4 wireless just don't offer the same visual quality as displayport. I only use my quest 2 for standalone and my g2 for pcvr, looks like I'll retire the g2 for this.
There are sooo many options for inside-out tracked headsets. The whole market seems to have gone that way so they can con you into buying an AR Devkit. But outside-in and Lighthouse (which functions like outside-in while technically being inside-out) are the superior technology and there are many people who refuse to downgrade from their Rift CV1, Vives and Index who have had no options available.
@@zig131 Lighthouse is generally better for tracking controllers, sure. But there are good reasons that tech is going away. It's still very expensive, restricts you to playing VR in one place, and is a pain in the ass to set up. I personally bought the quest pro controllers to use on my quest 2, and I must say, they are the best VR controllers I've used. If meta ever allows users to connect those controllers to the PC and use them with any inside-out tracked PCVR headset (like the reverb G2), that would be the best case scenario IMO.
@@bullfrogeth That'd likely require Meta teach the controllers to recognise every possible headset. To be useful, it's no good the controllers just knowing where they are in space. They need to know where they are relative to the headset so thier position will appear correct in-headset. I'm not sure exactly how Meta are doing it - could be HMD "seeing" controllers, controllers "seeing" HMD or both. But regardless it requires tight integration of controllers and headsets. It could never be a universal, inter-operable system like Lighthouse. The Touch Pro self tracking system is a super smart, but ultimately restrictive, impractical, and overly complicated "solution" to a problem that is already solved by outside-in tracking and Lighthouse.
@@zig131 Technically the controllers don't need to know anything, they are merely input/output devices. The bread and butter would be in the software running on the PC. That would be responsible for interpreting the data provided by both the headset and the controllers to work out their relative locations. Meta would most likely never let that software get made, which is why I'd love some other company to try their hand at it. You're right, though. The touch pro controllers solve one problem that externally tracked controllers had already solved. However, for most prospective VR consumers, the requirement to set up external sensors is already a deal breaker, and that is the problem that inside-out tracking attempted to solve. And while headset tracked controllers aren't perfect, the touch pro controllers addressed their limitations.
how can a such a small company build what looks and sounds like the best Vr headset?! Just the price is the only problem I see. HTC/Oculus/Valve take note.
Actually, it seems like the industry dont really understand the problem. Its not the headset but definitely the content. We get new headset everyday but still to play old game from 2 years or even more. The market is going to potable light experience with meta getting exclusivity everywhere and stuck in mobile vr, that's the real problem, when most user could still enjoy ass hell any new AAA game on a valve index or a quest 2, we don't have them, but we are fill with new headset every time. Just notice something, we talk about new headset while we have leaks and stuff, we are excited and hyped, then the headset release and nothing change and just weeks later we forget it and already talk about that other new headset upcoming. Guys you have to understand, we dont need more headset now, we actually need games and content to appeal more people to get excited to buy those new headset coming because even in the advertisement of all those "future brand new high-end headset" we still see half life alyx and beat saber (Excellent games i know), definitely old games at this point...
Good to see more smaller oled headsets. The custom fit thing seems cool but I don't have iPeasant products to give IP rights to my face shape. Hopefully Shiftall/Panasonic gets their project working at a good price point.
The minimum spec iPhone came out in 2018 and was the cheapest model in the range. It's likely you'll be able to find an acquaintance or friend-of-a-friend who has a compatible model. The headset to keep an eye on is the Somnium One. Native SteamVR + Lighthouse tracked like the Beyond but with a cheaper combination of Aspheric Lenses with LED panels. Price hasn't been announced so /could/ be cheaper than the beyond. Although it does have eye tracking and for some reason Wifi streaming capability. There will reportedly be a cheaper version without the passthrough cameras.
Looks cool but IMO whats the point of such a small headset if you are still tethered and locked in position by a cable? I don't expect a stand alone device of this size of course, just not sure what is the real appeal.
Well, comfort is the appeal. Many VR enthusiasts play tethered PCVR because it is just overall better. Now, we have this small headset that could be an easy upgrade for someone with an HTC VIVE or Valve Index.
It being lightweight for desktop vr seems counterintuitive. If they put a battery on it or the strap and integrated inside out tracking it would have been great. 1k pricing is way too much
absolutely love all of this!!! been waiting for a small pcvr headset. genius idea to be able to have it custom ordered for your face! Now my biggest concern is: will it work for all of oculus's pcvr games/apps?
I get the excitement about the RGB stripe uOLED displays, pancake lenses, native DisplayPort connection, and form factor. I do NOT understand the complete lack of AUDIO!!! (and no, the on-ear add-on isn't good enough - should have included Valve off-ear audio), adjustable IPD, adjustable eye relief, or eye-tracked dynamic foveated rendering. I also do not understand why anyone thinks requiring the use of an iPhone to flippin' scan your face to send to people we don't know is acceptable. Some of us don't like or own iPhones.
I lost interest once I heard valve lighthouses and attached cable only. The biggest benefit of the quest is its freedom and portability to go anywhere. I truly think wireless is the future of VR, not wired
Its impressive how many effort still goes into vr. so many have not yet realised that it will never go mainstream. Yes that comes from my mouth, and that means a lot.
it also doesn't come with its own headphones, or controllers. I'd say this is a really steep price for how much everything else on the market comes with at this price range. They'd have to drop down to as low as $400-$500 to get me to buy
One step forward. One step back. ANYTHING new should always be WIRELESS. They didn't accomplish anything. Oculus could make its headset smaller if it just left everything to the PC to run as well. Nothing impressive. All they did was take a quest striped it down to just lenses and screens, then added ONE vive tracking sensor. That's why they need a wire. Couldn't even add the ability to not need glasses, no face tracking, eye tracking, depth sensor. NOTHING. Imagine, strapping a backpack with a high end Gaming laptop in it. That's WAY BIGGER than anything else out there.
I really wish that someone would focus more on increasing FOV, even if there was some kind of cheat like those LEDs you can put behind your TV and sync them up to what you're watching attached inside the face gasket area. FOV is the biggest obstacle to immersion for me right now and I have trouble getting excited about more resolution and smaller sizes because I'm already pretty happy with both as they are.
LED's behind your TV's doesn't increase FoV.... It adds an effect, thats all. If you want more Fov then you should get proper increased fov and not some cheap trick that does nothing.
I agree. FOV and comfort is what people should be focusing more on right now. Size is perfectly fine, screen resolution is more than fine, and audio is fine. We just need better FOV and comfort to have the ultimate immersion!!
okay this really cool! this would work very well as a working headset too since it's so light. I wonder how well this will work for long-form work and using it as a way as to create a co-working space and multiple monitors. I already use the Quest 2 for work monitors but this would be a game changer, and a neck saver!
well, comfort and resolution are everything in that case, so it should be more than optimal! I think the Bigscreen app itself can create multiple monitors if I'm not wrong!
Cool BUT 1) custom made = no second hand market 2) only headset = I need to get the rest - more $ 3) $999 just for headset = expencive now when we have Pico 4 and soon Quest3 4) custom made head straps = more $ Over all yeah cool but no not an option for me
Really nice, as this would be perfect for my motion simulator, as the front weight of the G2 and 8KX that I own causes them to be bounced out of perfect focus quite often, but at $1800 AUD would like to see more actual user feedback before pulling the pin.
yea while the reverb G2 is a little "light".. i find it uncomfortable and can slide if it's not tightened. i want something very very light.. the g2 gives me a bit of a headache heh
Hyping this is idiotic, it has 0 resale value because of the custom fit. This makes it incredible expensive, and incredibly stupid. Its essentially single use consumer waste. How can people be this clueless about the importance of making things last? The importance of second hand markets?
Anything that doesn't have inside out tracking is immediately dead to me. Could be the most amazing headset in the universe with tech that won't be matched for decades and I still won't touch it if it requires me to go setting up lighthouses or the like.
THIS IS AMAZING! I have a massive IPD of 75mm, to have a custom headset would be a dream and I wear glasses. I have the base stations and controller, and I currently use a Pimax 8KX. I would definately buy this.
I don't care about size. I would wear a frickin helmet made of bricks for a bigger FOV! Also, miniaturization drives the costs/prices up, so that's another downside to making these smaller and smaller!
Yeah, I’m with you on fov. I can live with a big HMD so long as I’m getting human eye clarity and an fov that isn’t like I’m wearing a scuba diving mask
It also drives innovation of form factors instead of settling for the current trend. We need people doing stuff like this or we never get to the end...we just end up with overpriced, over hyped pimax headsets that are a pain to get to work properly.
For a grand… nah fam.. really cool but.. low refresh rate, not the best Fov. Oled panels is dope and resolution is impressive. But nahh, I’d rather have more Fov and a higher refresh rate.
At last a DP pancake!!! :) Tho couldn't the foam padding for each person be removable? I hope prescription lenses will be removable too as will become a door stop when ur prescription changes!
Better is not always ..... better. I own a Q2, PSVR 2 and a Reverb G2 along with a Rift S. I use my Rift S the most because its the simplest to use and by far the most comfortable. Not to mention while actually playing the visuals on all these headsets look about the same. I expected a huge improvement over my Rift S when I bought my G2 and the difference is small. Of course I'll keep buying more headsets because I love VR. I want to own them all but my Rift S is still my go to and its 6 years old!
Impressive specs, for me completely destroyed by the need to use basestations. 1st because of individual reasons (no way it would make sense to install base stations at my pc), 2nd because i think there might me a reason for valve outsourcing the production. Adding > 600€ for Knuckles and 2 basestations under this circumstances just isn't aviable option. That makes the hmd only attractive, if you already own this stuff.
@@mcmadness110 You seem to know alot about me and the future of lighthouse tracking. LH2 has been outsourced to HTC. According to BL it is uncertain, if Valve will produce Lighthouse 3.0 or some sort of camera tracking. Accuracy is an important feature, but there are others too. Inside/Out like in the QProControllers might be a valid alternative for many people ;-) But anyways: Since the bigscreen hmd needs LH, you might be right.
I don’t know, inside out tracking seems to be the new standard. Also wireless streaming from your PC is a nice perk. I still have an Oculus CV1. I’m waiting for the perfect headset. Sony implemented HDR. Why is that not catching on?
@@gumzster I get that, I just hate how three of my USB 3.0 ports are being used and I have to string cables around the living room for the sensors. Maybe they’ll improve upon inside out tracking in the future.
@@gumzster Yeah for sims you'd see very little benefit to them. But each controller has 3 cameras and its own micro processors, so the controllers are self tracking with little assistance from headset. So you dont get those micro shakes
@@gumzster But SteamVR tracking is also inside out... There are only 2 VR kits with outside in tracking: OG Rift and PSVR1. But SteamVR is so called "marker based inside out", the difference is that for the controllers and headset to properly asses their position they need light emitted from the base stations, but the base stations don't do any tracking at all. After all they're called lighthouses, because they're precisely that, they emit light, but they don't do any tracking. I personally don't experience any shaking on neither of my current headset, be it SteamVR lighthouse tracked Varjo Aero or camera based Quest Pro. Both are pretty good. If it's shaking there must be something wrong. Could be not enough light, objects getting in the way, other light sources etc.
I can't imagine the price being half way through this video.. custom made? lol. Probably super novelty.. Not really into this customizing thing.. sounds unnecessary for most people and will probably jack up the price plus it's only fitted for you and no one else. Then you need the outdated base stations. The wire setup also looks silly.. they have it dangling from the face? They couldn't think of something better than that? lol I mean it's cool im not hating, small form factor and a great OLED screen is what we all want.. Just hope this becomes more standardized soon.
I think lighthouse tracking is already dead, especially with the new quest pro controllers which track themselves so even when you put your controllers out of sight(behind you etc.) it doesn't lose tracking and even with the normal controllers it just has gotten to a point where it's so good that pinning yourself to just one location with expensive lighthouses is just not worth it. Inside out tracking is the way and every headset without it is destined to fail.
Touch Pro controllers get close to Lighthouse levels of tracking but only be putting a smartphone-grade SoC in each controller resulting in abysmal battery life and high cost. There's no need to re-invent the wheel. Meta already have a brilliant tracking system in CV1 Constellation but they unfortunately abandoned it leaving Lighthouse the only inter-operable, and outside-in-ish tracking system on the market. Lighthouse is over-engineered and kinda expensive but still better than any other option.
As a longtime VR veteran it is intriguing. Excellent form factor, nothing said about audio speakers and I absolutely hate the quests fov, love how my index forms around my entire eye area as well, tethered isn't a deal killer but $1000. for panels and resolution alone well that's wayyy too steep but for a hand full of enthusiast or collectors. These are still early days and it's exciting to see new, inventive ways to do VR, my take is we still don't have anything that has it all. An hmd with those pants and resolution, index audio speakers and mic, FOV is still a pillar of immersivenes in VR but for the price and limited features, well that cuts out the vast VR public as well as most of us veteran users. Excellent way to keep the tech interesting for those who have that kind of disposable cash.
As a pcvr owner everything looks perfect except for one thing, I am used to a wireless connection via airlink and now that is gone, which is a big negative!
Is this the start of a new era in VR!? Just like the Index was ground breaking, then Quest 1, I hope BSB will start a new flood of high end hardware and games, that will push low end stuff like the Quest to step it up!
OMG, There are way too many of those already. Why no one concentrates on FOV (Apart from the shitty Pimax headsets) It seems as if everyone thinks its better to get smaller then more immersive. In my opinion I'd pick Index (even though it was released in 2019 and has a whole bunch of old technology in it) over any VR headset right now when it come to AAA Vr gaming. It is still an amazing headset.. And yes the resolution is shit and yes its bigger and much heavier and connects with a cable, but when it comes to hard core gaming there is nothing better and more stable(meaning it doesn't require for you to fiddle around before you jump in to playing a game) right now... It's been almost 5 years since its release and no one could get anything even remotely close to Index (In terms of an over all GAME IMMERSION and STABILITY with great tracking system, refresh rate of 120Hz, and FOV of 144... Not to mention comfortably) I just don't get why they keep spitting out those over-priced ($1,800 AUD in Australia for Bigscreen Beyond) tiny headsets that aren't going to immerse you as well as Index did when it comes to hardcore gameplay. I mean if I need a tiny VR headsets for flat 2D games or movies, I might as well just use FLOW for $700 or better yet or Nreal air for $500.... way cheaper. I really miss the 144 FOV... the only Headset that would come close is PS5 VR2, but unfortunately you can only play PS5 games on it and it would cost you a lot more then $2000 if you don't have PS 5 to start with. I guess VR has hit its high for now... Maybe in 5 - 10 years time they'll get a 144 FOV or wider with a stable tracking, 120hz or higher FPS game play and a decent resolution headset for the public. As a VR/XR enthusiast I would pay $2000 - $3000 for something like that (providing it works with Steam VR), but unfortunately there is nothing like that out there right now....
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It was hard to say nothing. I'm beyond Excited!! Stay tuned for the videos on it!!
This has big problem if your friends wants to try it !
Ya sucks when you can't tell now one
Will it be possible to buy separate face cover so more than one people can use it ?
Looks frickin amazing but... I want eye tracking and bigger FOV for my next upgrade - I mean, if someone gave me one I wouldn't spit in their face.
Looks amazing, doubt I'll have the scratch to get one but damn do I want one :P
I think it looks like an awesome headset, I just worry that the fov will be abysmal. The quest 2 is already to narrow for my taste & I think this will have a smaller fov than that.
It's interesting there was no mention of it?
FOV is the same as the Quest 2.
I agrée. I like the quest 2 sharpness but the FOV is not great.
What a joke…tethered? In 2023? How can this be for enthusiasts? I am NEVER PLAYING VR tethered ever again it’s an immersion killer.
@@melomaniakjm on the other hand, I've been wanting a better displayport/ tethered pcvr headset. PCVR has needed something besides index/ hp reverb g2. quest 2/ pico 4 wireless just don't offer the same visual quality as displayport. I only use my quest 2 for standalone and my g2 for pcvr, looks like I'll retire the g2 for this.
love the form factor and weight, but I fear that the FoV is going to suffer. Especially in height.
looking forward to your 'through the lens' comparison video in a few months!
The audio looks very much like koss porta pro from cv1. The best vr audio ever
This is brilliant!
We need to see the final production Big Screen Beyond and compare it to the final production Shiftall MeganeX.
Imagine this had a little higher fov !
FINALLY 🙏👍 2560x2560
and OLED!!
@@Tyrielwood And beast PC+
Now they just need to partner with someone I can go to for the facial scan so I don't need to buy an iPhone to order.
Wait, so the headset itself doesn't have inside-out tracking? That's unfortunately a deal breaker for me :(
There are sooo many options for inside-out tracked headsets.
The whole market seems to have gone that way so they can con you into buying an AR Devkit.
But outside-in and Lighthouse (which functions like outside-in while technically being inside-out) are the superior technology and there are many people who refuse to downgrade from their Rift CV1, Vives and Index who have had no options available.
@@zig131 Lighthouse is generally better for tracking controllers, sure. But there are good reasons that tech is going away. It's still very expensive, restricts you to playing VR in one place, and is a pain in the ass to set up. I personally bought the quest pro controllers to use on my quest 2, and I must say, they are the best VR controllers I've used. If meta ever allows users to connect those controllers to the PC and use them with any inside-out tracked PCVR headset (like the reverb G2), that would be the best case scenario IMO.
Or, better yet, some other company should release controllers that track themselves, made specifically for PCVR
@@bullfrogeth That'd likely require Meta teach the controllers to recognise every possible headset.
To be useful, it's no good the controllers just knowing where they are in space.
They need to know where they are relative to the headset so thier position will appear correct in-headset.
I'm not sure exactly how Meta are doing it - could be HMD "seeing" controllers, controllers "seeing" HMD or both.
But regardless it requires tight integration of controllers and headsets.
It could never be a universal, inter-operable system like Lighthouse.
The Touch Pro self tracking system is a super smart, but ultimately restrictive, impractical, and overly complicated "solution" to a problem that is already solved by outside-in tracking and Lighthouse.
@@zig131 Technically the controllers don't need to know anything, they are merely input/output devices. The bread and butter would be in the software running on the PC. That would be responsible for interpreting the data provided by both the headset and the controllers to work out their relative locations. Meta would most likely never let that software get made, which is why I'd love some other company to try their hand at it.
You're right, though. The touch pro controllers solve one problem that externally tracked controllers had already solved. However, for most prospective VR consumers, the requirement to set up external sensors is already a deal breaker, and that is the problem that inside-out tracking attempted to solve. And while headset tracked controllers aren't perfect, the touch pro controllers addressed their limitations.
how can a such a small company build what looks and sounds like the best Vr headset?! Just the price is the only problem I see. HTC/Oculus/Valve take note.
They had a different vision
Looks like a vive focus or flow but more refine
Actually, it seems like the industry dont really understand the problem. Its not the headset but definitely the content. We get new headset everyday but still to play old game from 2 years or even more. The market is going to potable light experience with meta getting exclusivity everywhere and stuck in mobile vr, that's the real problem, when most user could still enjoy ass hell any new AAA game on a valve index or a quest 2, we don't have them, but we are fill with new headset every time. Just notice something, we talk about new headset while we have leaks and stuff, we are excited and hyped, then the headset release and nothing change and just weeks later we forget it and already talk about that other new headset upcoming.
Guys you have to understand, we dont need more headset now, we actually need games and content to appeal more people to get excited to buy those new headset coming because even in the advertisement of all those "future brand new high-end headset" we still see half life alyx and beat saber (Excellent games i know), definitely old games at this point...
Q3 2023 $999 pre orders started already
Good to see more smaller oled headsets. The custom fit thing seems cool but I don't have iPeasant products to give IP rights to my face shape. Hopefully Shiftall/Panasonic gets their project working at a good price point.
The minimum spec iPhone came out in 2018 and was the cheapest model in the range.
It's likely you'll be able to find an acquaintance or friend-of-a-friend who has a compatible model.
The headset to keep an eye on is the Somnium One. Native SteamVR + Lighthouse tracked like the Beyond but with a cheaper combination of Aspheric Lenses with LED panels.
Price hasn't been announced so /could/ be cheaper than the beyond.
Although it does have eye tracking and for some reason Wifi streaming capability.
There will reportedly be a cheaper version without the passthrough cameras.
The scan doesn't give them any IP rights.
Man I want one
it looks like arpara, which has been selling for $ 400 in China for two years
Looks cool but IMO whats the point of such a small headset if you are still tethered and locked in position by a cable? I don't expect a stand alone device of this size of course, just not sure what is the real appeal.
Well, comfort is the appeal. Many VR enthusiasts play tethered PCVR because it is just overall better. Now, we have this small headset that could be an easy upgrade for someone with an HTC VIVE or Valve Index.
@@DiamondDepthYT yeah I can see that, but tbh for 1k doesn't sound like an easy upgrade to me.
I don’t like that you need an iPhone to scan your face, but they continue not to support Mac with their streaming client
NOOO WAAAAAYYY! I’m about to up the speed of this video to 2x 😂
It being lightweight for desktop vr seems counterintuitive. If they put a battery on it or the strap and integrated inside out tracking it would have been great. 1k pricing is way too much
absolutely love all of this!!! been waiting for a small pcvr headset. genius idea to be able to have it custom ordered for your face! Now my biggest concern is: will it work for all of oculus's pcvr games/apps?
Revive is your friend in that case
@@Tyrielwood ohh, got it, thanks for the tip!
This Is actually a good device BUT! the lack of EYE Tracking smaller FOV and high Price are Some big drawbacks.
I'm sold
Will u review the psvr2?
Woooo
Anything with cable is a step backwards in vr technology.
I get the excitement about the RGB stripe uOLED displays, pancake lenses, native DisplayPort connection, and form factor.
I do NOT understand the complete lack of AUDIO!!! (and no, the on-ear add-on isn't good enough - should have included Valve off-ear audio), adjustable IPD, adjustable eye relief, or eye-tracked dynamic foveated rendering.
I also do not understand why anyone thinks requiring the use of an iPhone to flippin' scan your face to send to people we don't know is acceptable. Some of us don't like or own iPhones.
make it wireless and i'm in!
It needs android support to work, don't care, use a ton of photos for photogrammetry ro something.
It looks cool but the price seems very unappealing, especially considering it doesn't come with neither controllers or baystations.
This is very cool, the dream is to have my own VR room one day, dedicated to gaming and comfortable vr!!!!
is this the elusive NDA headset i keep hearing about
it's nuts it never leaked
Why is there no info for Refresh Rate / hz ?
it says on the website it supports 75 and 90 hz
@@goodtyme hm ok
Hmm. Interesting. Maybe will be the "replacer" of the best (overal) vr headset (HP Reverb2)
Alright, I'm buying this.
Edit,
Nevermind I am too poor for this one... Also it is not stand alone, well no longer care for it.
Do I see magnets to attach prescription lenses in them?????
Yep!
@@Tyrielwood /screams like a grown man can do/
@@nixie2462 😂
Is it your daily driver now!??
I'll let you know soon!
This has big problem if your friends wants to try it ! And also small fov !
Yay! More hardware...🤣😂🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️...when do we start getting games drop back to back...🤔😏🤦🏿♂️
Great product but too expensive! You need to buy all base stations and trackers extra!
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Another overpriced PCVR stilborn with tracking boxes to setup and no resale value due to the custom face cushion. I pass.
But its priced at a good pricepoint for VR youtubers, just do an ad and its yours!
Foveated rendering?
Not eye tracked but maybe idk
No eye tracking for foveated rendering? PSVR 2 shows what's possible. Every new headset without eye tracking is a doa product imho.
Did you say the price on average at the moment, it's the first thing I need to know before considering buying anything.
I lost interest once I heard valve lighthouses and attached cable only.
The biggest benefit of the quest is its freedom and portability to go anywhere. I truly think wireless is the future of VR, not wired
oh boi, finally something that looks not like a brick on the face, lol
im not going back to a wired headset, unless it connects to my mind or someshit.
The FOV isn't great.
You Had ME until you said PC vr. So that's a huge NO from me on The BigScrern vr headset
If only they made it cheaper. They could really disrupt the market and start to revolutionize vr. Too bad for greed...
The fact that you need an iPhone to scan your face is the biggest negative.
Its impressive how many effort still goes into vr. so many have not yet realised that it will never go mainstream. Yes that comes from my mouth, and that means a lot.
Vr is the future for better or for worse
@@ran4082 no, I chose to believe AR is the future. VR will always be a niche product
Agreed. When the biggest VR channel on youtube says so, it's gotta be the facts!
@@DiamondDepthYT Nothing of them will be mainstream. People dont wanna wear stuff in their face. Ask Tom Hardy (Bayne, Mad Max)
SteamVR tracking is pretty meh, but great to see where things are going size-wise!
No one is going to want to use light houses in 2023. They took a big gamble with that and it was a terrible mistake.
And you lost my attention at exactly 5:23
So you would be the only one who can use it and can never sell it. Ahhh... No Thanks.
Not Stand-alone & Price . Nah . Period .
Idk. Everything sounds nice, but it isn't wireless, and it doesn't have face, and eye tracking. For $1,000 in 2023 that's pretty necessary.
it also doesn't come with its own headphones, or controllers. I'd say this is a really steep price for how much everything else on the market comes with at this price range. They'd have to drop down to as low as $400-$500 to get me to buy
One step forward.
One step back.
ANYTHING new should always be WIRELESS.
They didn't accomplish anything.
Oculus could make its headset smaller if it just left everything to the PC to run as well. Nothing impressive.
All they did was take a quest striped it down to just lenses and screens, then added ONE vive tracking sensor. That's why they need a wire. Couldn't even add the ability to not need glasses, no face tracking, eye tracking, depth sensor. NOTHING.
Imagine, strapping a backpack with a high end Gaming laptop in it. That's WAY BIGGER than anything else out there.
At a very expensive price.
so amazing size and screen ect ect ect ....it cost $50000
I really wish that someone would focus more on increasing FOV, even if there was some kind of cheat like those LEDs you can put behind your TV and sync them up to what you're watching attached inside the face gasket area. FOV is the biggest obstacle to immersion for me right now and I have trouble getting excited about more resolution and smaller sizes because I'm already pretty happy with both as they are.
No need to act like Pimax hasn't been doing that for years.
LED's behind your TV's doesn't increase FoV.... It adds an effect, thats all. If you want more Fov then you should get proper increased fov and not some cheap trick that does nothing.
Wut about games tho...😒
I agree. FOV and comfort is what people should be focusing more on right now. Size is perfectly fine, screen resolution is more than fine, and audio is fine. We just need better FOV and comfort to have the ultimate immersion!!
agreed! fov is very small still. i don't need higher resolution. i just need bigger fov so it doesn't feel like i'm looking through binoculars lol.
okay this really cool! this would work very well as a working headset too since it's so light. I wonder how well this will work for long-form work and using it as a way as to create a co-working space and multiple monitors.
I already use the Quest 2 for work monitors but this would be a game changer, and a neck saver!
well, comfort and resolution are everything in that case, so it should be more than optimal!
I think the Bigscreen app itself can create multiple monitors if I'm not wrong!
For what type of work you are using quest 2? I tried to use for code but could not make workout for me
I don't think 28ppd is enough for work.
Cool BUT
1) custom made = no second hand market
2) only headset = I need to get the rest - more $
3) $999 just for headset = expencive now when we have Pico 4 and soon Quest3
4) custom made head straps = more $
Over all yeah cool but no not an option for me
Really nice, as this would be perfect for my motion simulator, as the front weight of the G2 and 8KX that I own causes them to be bounced out of perfect focus quite often, but at $1800 AUD would like to see more actual user feedback before pulling the pin.
yea while the reverb G2 is a little "light".. i find it uncomfortable and can slide if it's not tightened.
i want something very very light.. the g2 gives me a bit of a headache heh
Hyping this is idiotic, it has 0 resale value because of the custom fit. This makes it incredible expensive, and incredibly stupid. Its essentially single use consumer waste.
How can people be this clueless about the importance of making things last? The importance of second hand markets?
very small lenses, view angle will be
Anything that doesn't have inside out tracking is immediately dead to me. Could be the most amazing headset in the universe with tech that won't be matched for decades and I still won't touch it if it requires me to go setting up lighthouses or the like.
Then you are not the target audience.
@@mcmadness110 Nope, apparently not :3
THIS IS AMAZING! I have a massive IPD of 75mm, to have a custom headset would be a dream and I wear glasses. I have the base stations and controller, and I currently use a Pimax 8KX. I would definately buy this.
Hi Tyriel! Their website says 90Hz; are you sure it will feature 120Hz? Thanks!
I don't care about size. I would wear a frickin helmet made of bricks for a bigger FOV!
Also, miniaturization drives the costs/prices up, so that's another downside to making these smaller and smaller!
Yeah, I’m with you on fov. I can live with a big HMD so long as I’m getting human eye clarity and an fov that isn’t like I’m wearing a scuba diving mask
there is the pimax if you don't care about the size!
It also drives innovation of form factors instead of settling for the current trend.
We need people doing stuff like this or we never get to the end...we just end up with overpriced, over hyped pimax headsets that are a pain to get to work properly.
@@orionishi6737 it's absolutely incredible what they were able to achieve here!
@@Tyrielwood Has me very excited for the next 5 years in VR
Not the product for me. Standalone, inside out, PCVR compatibility, please.
For a grand… nah fam.. really cool but.. low refresh rate, not the best Fov. Oled panels is dope and resolution is impressive. But nahh, I’d rather have more Fov and a higher refresh rate.
1390 euro without controllers and 90* fow ? Nad wired ?
Why throughout the video I hear some static noise?
As soon as you said Cable and tracking stations I lost interest. Never mind
$1799 AUD + the rest 2k+
How is it only 999 dollars?!?!?!
Looks really nice but whats the Fov?????
90-92, i think thats what i saw on mrtv
At last a DP pancake!!! :) Tho couldn't the foam padding for each person be removable? I hope prescription lenses will be removable too as will become a door stop when ur prescription changes!
the padding is removable yep!
Both the face cushion and prescription lenses attach magnetically. Easy to swap!
Better is not always ..... better. I own a Q2, PSVR 2 and a Reverb G2 along with a Rift S. I use my Rift S the most because its the simplest to use and by far the most comfortable. Not to mention while actually playing the visuals on all these headsets look about the same. I expected a huge improvement over my Rift S when I bought my G2 and the difference is small. Of course I'll keep buying more headsets because I love VR. I want to own them all but my Rift S is still my go to and its 6 years old!
Impressive specs, for me completely destroyed by the need to use basestations. 1st because of individual reasons (no way it would make sense to install base stations at my pc), 2nd because i think there might me a reason for valve outsourcing the production. Adding > 600€ for Knuckles and 2 basestations under this circumstances just isn't aviable option. That makes the hmd only attractive, if you already own this stuff.
Lighthouse is the best tracking accuracy. Not to mention, if you were the target audience, you should already have everything else needed.
@@mcmadness110 You seem to know alot about me and the future of lighthouse tracking. LH2 has been outsourced to HTC. According to BL it is uncertain, if Valve will produce Lighthouse 3.0 or some sort of camera tracking. Accuracy is an important feature, but there are others too. Inside/Out like in the QProControllers might be a valid alternative for many people ;-) But anyways: Since the bigscreen hmd needs LH, you might be right.
I don’t know, inside out tracking seems to be the new standard. Also wireless streaming from your PC is a nice perk. I still have an Oculus CV1. I’m waiting for the perfect headset. Sony implemented HDR. Why is that not catching on?
@@gumzster I get that, I just hate how three of my USB 3.0 ports are being used and I have to string cables around the living room for the sensors. Maybe they’ll improve upon inside out tracking in the future.
@@gumzster The Quest Pro controllers are absolutely amazing for tracking, I find them to be more accurate than my valve index controllers I've used.
@@gumzster Yeah for sims you'd see very little benefit to them. But each controller has 3 cameras and its own micro processors, so the controllers are self tracking with little assistance from headset. So you dont get those micro shakes
@@gumzster But SteamVR tracking is also inside out... There are only 2 VR kits with outside in tracking: OG Rift and PSVR1. But SteamVR is so called "marker based inside out", the difference is that for the controllers and headset to properly asses their position they need light emitted from the base stations, but the base stations don't do any tracking at all. After all they're called lighthouses, because they're precisely that, they emit light, but they don't do any tracking.
I personally don't experience any shaking on neither of my current headset, be it SteamVR lighthouse tracked Varjo Aero or camera based Quest Pro. Both are pretty good. If it's shaking there must be something wrong. Could be not enough light, objects getting in the way, other light sources etc.
there is no perfect headset unfortunately. don't expect before 2030. if ever.
Micro sweet spot like g2? No Eye tracking or "all around sweet spot" like varjo?
I wonder if it can accept an eye tracker.. Thought my next headset would have that. Or maybe it's still not time yet..
this looks so good! but im worried about the fov
I think it was 90-92, i saw on mrtv
Basically almost the same as the queat 2
@@vangoghoff5521 wow that's good for the size
I can't imagine the price being half way through this video.. custom made? lol. Probably super novelty.. Not really into this customizing thing.. sounds unnecessary for most people and will probably jack up the price plus it's only fitted for you and no one else. Then you need the outdated base stations. The wire setup also looks silly.. they have it dangling from the face? They couldn't think of something better than that? lol I mean it's cool im not hating, small form factor and a great OLED screen is what we all want.. Just hope this becomes more standardized soon.
I think lighthouse tracking is already dead, especially with the new quest pro controllers which track themselves so even when you put your controllers out of sight(behind you etc.) it doesn't lose tracking and even with the normal controllers it just has gotten to a point where it's so good that pinning yourself to just one location with expensive lighthouses is just not worth it. Inside out tracking is the way and every headset without it is destined to fail.
Touch Pro controllers get close to Lighthouse levels of tracking but only be putting a smartphone-grade SoC in each controller resulting in abysmal battery life and high cost.
There's no need to re-invent the wheel. Meta already have a brilliant tracking system in CV1 Constellation but they unfortunately abandoned it leaving Lighthouse the only inter-operable, and outside-in-ish tracking system on the market. Lighthouse is over-engineered and kinda expensive but still better than any other option.
Why are we still stuck at low fov. Lowest should be 120 fov. And on headset tracking should be default.
As a longtime VR veteran it is intriguing. Excellent form factor, nothing said about audio speakers and I absolutely hate the quests fov, love how my index forms around my entire eye area as well, tethered isn't a deal killer but $1000. for panels and resolution alone well that's wayyy too steep but for a hand full of enthusiast or collectors. These are still early days and it's exciting to see new, inventive ways to do VR, my take is we still don't have anything that has it all. An hmd with those pants and resolution, index audio speakers and mic, FOV is still a pillar of immersivenes in VR but for the price and limited features, well that cuts out the vast VR public as well as most of us veteran users. Excellent way to keep the tech interesting for those who have that kind of disposable cash.
As a pcvr owner everything looks perfect except for one thing, I am used to a wireless connection via airlink and now that is gone, which is a big negative!
2024 usb c snapdragon hub in the pocket , this will become the normal -pocket hubs -
Thank god you did the video . NDA signing is kind of huge . Now it's out now I don't have to worry
Is this the start of a new era in VR!? Just like the Index was ground breaking, then Quest 1, I hope BSB will start a new flood of high end hardware and games, that will push low end stuff like the Quest to step it up!
90 degree FOV. 🤣😂
PASS! WE WANT FOV DAMNIT!
OMG, There are way too many of those already. Why no one concentrates on FOV (Apart from the shitty Pimax headsets) It seems as if everyone thinks its better to get smaller then more immersive. In my opinion I'd pick Index (even though it was released in 2019 and has a whole bunch of old technology in it) over any VR headset right now when it come to AAA Vr gaming. It is still an amazing headset.. And yes the resolution is shit and yes its bigger and much heavier and connects with a cable, but when it comes to hard core gaming there is nothing better and more stable(meaning it doesn't require for you to fiddle around before you jump in to playing a game) right now... It's been almost 5 years since its release and no one could get anything even remotely close to Index (In terms of an over all GAME IMMERSION and STABILITY with great tracking system, refresh rate of 120Hz, and FOV of 144... Not to mention comfortably) I just don't get why they keep spitting out those over-priced ($1,800 AUD in Australia for Bigscreen Beyond) tiny headsets that aren't going to immerse you as well as Index did when it comes to hardcore gameplay. I mean if I need a tiny VR headsets for flat 2D games or movies, I might as well just use FLOW for $700 or better yet or Nreal air for $500.... way cheaper. I really miss the 144 FOV... the only Headset that would come close is PS5 VR2, but unfortunately you can only play PS5 games on it and it would cost you a lot more then $2000 if you don't have PS 5 to start with. I guess VR has hit its high for now... Maybe in 5 - 10 years time they'll get a 144 FOV or wider with a stable tracking, 120hz or higher FPS game play and a decent resolution headset for the public. As a VR/XR enthusiast I would pay $2000 - $3000 for something like that (providing it works with Steam VR), but unfortunately there is nothing like that out there right now....