R Sosaummmmmm the diddy episode and dame episode was two different confrontations. Dame dash smacked him up...thats what the guy is referring too...not the diddy episode.
Very interesting discussion. One thing though, Alicia Key's didn't get dropped, Colombia just refused to let her do her music her way, but also didn't want to let her leave, which ended up in Clive Davis buying out her contract. They would have been content to have her music sitting on a shelf for years, which is just another example of how spiteful things can get in the industry, and how you really have to know what you want in order not to get run over and made into a gimmick.
No Truer words have ever been spoken.. " The Lack Of Talent That's Getting Away With A Lack Of Talent." I always say from 2000 to present 2013, one would be hard pressed to name a hundred songs That will be classic or remembered 20 years from now. Meanwhile in the 80s & 90s You could name a thousand.
Columbia signed Nas in 1992...Nas has always been a real conscious rapper that speaks knowledge through music...the only true rebel since the beginning
The record companies are targeting the early teens with the .99 per song..its a throw away society now. The young kids don't have a quality measure..they change their minds 3 times per hour who their fav artist is.
hiphop is nothing like religion. Its an entertainment culture. music, dialect, art, fashion etc thats it. Hip hop...a way of life It doesn't tell you how to raise a child or treat a wife - Q-Tip
No disrespect but there a thing called an A&R. Back in the day they used to mold the artist. So that sonic picture has typically been painted. Its just that with media and technology now, you actually hear artist voice their opinions on their image.
When a light bulb lights the room you shouldn't ask why is it so bright... You should think that's what it's supposed to do. Unfortunately, the world we live in is so dark that we judge those who try to illuminate. Steve Stoute regardless of color, career or creed is one of those beacons of light.
Misrepresentation video. He didn't talk about why Damon Dash was broke, he talked about how he was always being mad and burning bridges because of his temperment. Thumbs down for misrepresentation.
@BonusCivis Yeah Cash Money got that formula. Actually that formula was Lil Wayne.. I could see the talent in that dude even when he was just the lil nigga in the group on just a couple verses wit the Hot Boyz. My cuz was tellin me the other day, man I still can't believe Cash Money still around and making all this money. Them niggas still around and runnin the game, that's crazy. They got that plan, but Slim is the brains behind all that shit in my opinion.
im not a nicki fan at all.. but for anyone to say she has no talent is really on some hater type shit... her gimmick with the outfits and personality comes from her theatrical background.. she was into acting first. thats obvious talent cause she is totally different from her persona.. and she is a good lyricist.. Im not a fan but i cant hate on her at all. i like when she actually raps.. but i will never buy the albums. too much pop nonetheless she is talented.
Stoute is not a genius and LL used the lyric as it fit. FUBU is a relative line with multiple meaning. GAP and FUBU were on two different fashion levels that is why FUBU didnt resonate to the GAP stakeholders. That hat was a sign and they as in GAP probably let it pass cause it was LL's demand with signing on to do the commercial.
I love when they have guys like stout and liles on these shows it really gives you the knowledge on the actual movers and shakers of the entertainment business.
@kilahchris not a Nicki fan, not a Wayne fan, not a Drake fan, not a Young Money fan. But those 3 can spit some nice lyrics and over the head metaphors. I may not care for their shit music but to deny they can legitimately spit usually is straight up hating.
Alicia Keyes is extremely talented but one wouldn't know because she SAMPLES and BITES HOOKS! Sampling and rewriting hooks is a HipHop thing not R&B. if its done in any other genre it's biting and unoriginal, and that's Mrs.Keyes.
Nicki is the one who hates other women herself, listen to her lyrics- also watch her attitude towards Angela Yee in a recent interview- she treats Yee like dirt. And I don't hate her, I just think she represets what mainstream music has become- a bunch of gimmicks and garbage music with no substance
This man is interesting but he is getting carried away. Hip-Hop is not a religion it’s just another aspect of the diversity of African Americans culture.
What Steve said about Nicki needing more depth in her music, is a joke. Now if you listen to the message as well as the lyrical wordplay, on her smash hit single ,(moment for life),, you might find it to be a very big inspirational (hiphop)/pop anthem, in the years to come,, what person do you know, on earth who doesn't wish they had that (moment when everything is going great), last for for the rest of there lives? .People are infected by the music, just as the music is infected by the people
Graphic designers are the same way. People will pass up on the talent because nobody knows you. The moment you start doing hundreds of projects, that's when the directors call. But here's the thing, they'll want you to deal on their salary. You already have your own salary.
Great interview I must say. He just told his story, plugged his book and dropped a gangload of inside information. Son just spoke like an older cat looking back talking to the folks listening. He did some thangs that changed the game. His name is on a lot of the cd's I have from back in the day. Don't and can't hate, for a change just listen and learn for a second. Much respect Steve.
Steve is a career maker, no doubt. Hip hop needs him back. We need a modern MF Doom, a GZA...we need that painting with beats and melody, as WELL as that depth in lyrics.
@@JustDoWhatITellYou i look at it different. when u look at music movements that occupy a space in time in hip hop and basically change a wave , its because they have a main producer who has a vision that's never been seen before and changes the game. marley marl , dr dre ( 3 different times), q tip, puffy, rya, I'm sure i missing somebody about right here, and mannie fresh all did that. as soon as you take them away , the music goes wrong. so there is talent there, but its the producer who has the vision and he directs the rappers and curates the projects on a whole. cash money was the first south movement that NY accepted. there had to be something there to even think about that happening. just my view . and i so agree tho , 3 years later from your comment, you're right , this DIY approach has made it ...umm.. different..on all levels
You are so right, rap will never be the same. And no one but people who lived that life knew what those words meant. 😂😂 Now days everybody plays as if they have lived or live that life. You are also right that the music industry aka Record labels will sign anybody, I miss my 90s rap and r&b. 😢😢 Very few good artist and music now days. Music doesn't speak you you or make you feel the way it used to.
honestly out of all the girls ive seen over the years shes the only and i mean the only one who has caught my eye. for one reason or another. steve is right in saying she should make some more hood records, more from the heart records, insted of the dumb ass "stupid hoe" songs you feel me
watching this in 2022, 11. Years. Later. - dude hit the nail on the head with Nicki Minaj and Drake. And no cap I *just* bought Tanning of America, a generation later still relevant
Damion Dash will always be a Legend and has a legacy thats a force 2 b reckoned with his fans will always respect and admire his ambtions and ackalads i jst wish he and jay could have reckonciled and they still can Jay and Nas did and its Classic
i grew up in the times where is started Track Masters... he was the manager of Nas, and Foxy Brown... Helped in the career of R Kelly.. Very rich and powerful guy... and very Rich
I know right...Now I will admit that the freestyle DVD nikki minaj was dope...She actually had bars and a flow; now, she comes up with stuff I can't help but to hang my head in disappointment, sigh and shake my head...
DaboooogA At the time of the releasing of those videos. According to the FCC drug references were supposed to be censored. It's Steve's naitivity to believe that broadcasters didn't know what rappers were saying. They knew, they were just allowing the pushing of a narrative.
he said not only "lack of talent" in the industry but also "lack of talent" getting away with lack of talent. WOW!!!!!! WORD SON
Big props to LL for wearing the FUBU hat in the GAP ad!
I thought it was a collaborative effort, made me respect GAP.
Only took 2 videos to hear 40 seconds of Damon Dash nice click bait...so sick of these types of people trying to get views
This. It wasn't even about why he's "broke"...just that he's angry.
Always read the comments first, i won't click play til I've done my due diligence.
Facts!
JT Smith man... I’m sitting thinking the same thing... like “When will he talk about dame”??????
It's a tight interview though
"People are not buying the artists, they are buying the songs"...real talk....
You can’t diss Fubu. The only Black label brand who’s creator started literally in the basement made 100s of millions and still rich off fubu.
That shit was wack and cheap looking.....But Sean John and RocaWear was a little better.I prefer POLO 👚 Ralph Lauren the best.
@@assaniase8638 fubu did it on his own 100% self made black owned
@@assaniase8638 rocawear was def not better than fubu prime for prime days lol. u just saying that cuz of relevance
Stoute is ridiculously intelligent. Great interview... thanks for putting this up.
The lack of talent getting away with the lack of talent👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I like how when asked about Dame Dash not liking him he simply responded in the most dignified manner with "that's unfortunate".
Yes thats what mature secure men do
R Sosa he didnt want to get smacked again lol POP !! lol
Kevin Washington He sued the hell out of Diddy over that episode I remember reading that he took home a tidy sum from that incident.
R Sosa i wouldnt doubt it lol knowing the type of snake stoute is today lol i still respect the smart little gremlim tho lol
R Sosaummmmmm the diddy episode and dame episode was two different confrontations. Dame dash smacked him up...thats what the guy is referring too...not the diddy episode.
Steve stoute predicted nicki Minaj perfectly
He said "you ever seen an old man yelling at a garbage can" talking about Dame LMAO!!!
He is giving up a lot of game in this interview.
Ok, the title is misleading.......
But sun, this dude is speaking Knowledge! I cant look away, I learn something new every minute
Very interesting discussion. One thing though, Alicia Key's didn't get dropped, Colombia just refused to let her do her music her way, but also didn't want to let her leave, which ended up in Clive Davis buying out her contract. They would have been content to have her music sitting on a shelf for years, which is just another example of how spiteful things can get in the industry, and how you really have to know what you want in order not to get run over and made into a gimmick.
I love this...he should be manager seriously !!!
He was spot on on Nicki Minaj, becoming a big brand and a big personality. But she is not making music that comes from the essence of hip-hop. .
''Their not buying the artist their buying the songs'', SO TRUE. There are hardly any artist in music 2day.
What the hell was he talking about in the beginning?
No Truer words have ever been spoken.. " The Lack Of Talent That's Getting Away With A Lack Of Talent." I always say from 2000 to present 2013, one would be hard pressed to name a hundred songs That will be classic or remembered 20 years from now. Meanwhile in the 80s & 90s You could name a thousand.
Columbia signed Nas in 1992...Nas has always been a real conscious rapper that speaks knowledge through music...the only true rebel since the beginning
If you're not listening...then that sucks for you. Steve Stoute is speaking real knowledge on what they are selling to us for a buck.
i agree with everything he said, especially about Nicki Minaj,
That is a very smart guy im going to buy the book. I agreed with everything he said
Funny we won't wear FUBU or Karl Kani but we still down with Polo, Tommy.....
one of our best minds as a people. great representation of what an brilliant mind sounds like.
The record companies are targeting the early teens with the .99 per song..its a throw away society now. The young kids don't have a quality measure..they change their minds 3 times per hour who their fav artist is.
hiphop is nothing like religion. Its an entertainment culture. music, dialect, art, fashion etc thats it.
Hip hop...a way of life
It doesn't tell you how to raise a child or treat a wife - Q-Tip
This aged like fine wine
gotta luv how everybody just quiet. even charlamane(not sure if spelled correctly) behaving.
He was right . Because nicki new cd is not doing very well
8:37 that didn't age well ...now drake out here wearing nail polish 😂😂😂😂
Steve stoute is the reason Rocafella broke up 😤… just watched Un interview with Vlad… had to see his body landing and words about it myself
Go to 06:25 to hear dame dash... everything else is BS!
Everything this man said and predicted from 10 years ago is true lol look at dame dash and nikki manage
that's right there is a lot of "lack of talent" in the industry, i knew these gimmicks are'nt going to last for that long.
No disrespect but there a thing called an A&R. Back in the day they used to mold the artist. So that sonic picture has typically been painted. Its just that with media and technology now, you actually hear artist voice their opinions on their image.
When a light bulb lights the room you shouldn't ask why is it so bright... You should think that's what it's supposed to do. Unfortunately, the world we live in is so dark that we judge those who try to illuminate. Steve Stoute regardless of color, career or creed is one of those beacons of light.
Nicki is talented. Just check her hot rhymes when she's a guest on a dope track. I like what she did with Em on Roman's Revenge.
he's been around for a long time and hasn't faded yet so i highly doubt that.
Misrepresentation video. He didn't talk about why Damon Dash was broke, he talked about how he was always being mad and burning bridges because of his temperment. Thumbs down for misrepresentation.
@BonusCivis Yeah Cash Money got that formula. Actually that formula was Lil Wayne.. I could see the talent in that dude even when he was just the lil nigga in the group on just a couple verses wit the Hot Boyz. My cuz was tellin me the other day, man I still can't believe Cash Money still around and making all this money. Them niggas still around and runnin the game, that's crazy. They got that plan, but Slim is the brains behind all that shit in my opinion.
im not a nicki fan at all.. but for anyone to say she has no talent is really on some hater type shit... her gimmick with the outfits and personality comes from her theatrical background.. she was into acting first. thats obvious talent cause she is totally different from her persona.. and she is a good lyricist.. Im not a fan but i cant hate on her at all. i like when she actually raps.. but i will never buy the albums. too much pop nonetheless she is talented.
Stoute is not a genius and LL used the lyric as it fit. FUBU is a relative line with multiple meaning. GAP and FUBU were on two different fashion levels that is why FUBU didnt resonate to the GAP stakeholders. That hat was a sign and they as in GAP probably let it pass cause it was LL's demand with signing on to do the commercial.
6:00-6:07.... *BLAM*
he dropped a 100 IQ points when Puff Daddy bashed him in the head with that champagne bottle back in '99
I love when they have guys like stout and liles on these shows it really gives you the knowledge on the actual movers and shakers of the entertainment business.
@kilahchris not a Nicki fan, not a Wayne fan, not a Drake fan, not a Young Money fan. But those 3 can spit some nice lyrics and over the head metaphors. I may not care for their shit music but to deny they can legitimately spit usually is straight up hating.
Alicia Keyes is extremely talented but one wouldn't know because she SAMPLES and BITES HOOKS! Sampling and rewriting hooks is a HipHop thing not R&B. if its done in any other genre it's biting and unoriginal, and that's Mrs.Keyes.
dude is listed in billboard mag for a reason!
Steve Stoute is a smart dude.
but you listened...that's good
@schail So true. Why couldn't Michael have black children? With discipline, those kids can sill use the money wisely.
Nicki is the one who hates other women herself, listen to her lyrics- also watch her attitude towards Angela Yee in a recent interview- she treats Yee like dirt. And I don't hate her, I just think she represets what mainstream music has become- a bunch of gimmicks and garbage music with no substance
Not directly, but there is a certain link between the two.
anybody haten on dame is clearly not a true jay z fan
I just brought your book on kindle ...
they're really isn't a music business anymore, it's just another wing of celebreality.
Hip Hop is a culture
People buying the song not the artist real talk
"karl kani woulda been a better joke" lmao
This man is interesting but he is getting carried away. Hip-Hop is not a religion it’s just another aspect of the diversity of African Americans culture.
What Steve said about Nicki needing more depth in her music, is a joke. Now if you listen to the message as well as the lyrical wordplay, on her smash hit single ,(moment for life),, you might find it to be a very big inspirational (hiphop)/pop anthem, in the years to come,, what person do you know, on earth who doesn't wish they had that (moment when everything is going great), last for for the rest of there lives? .People are infected by the music, just as the music is infected by the people
6:40 Dame discussion
thanks
should honestly listen to what this man has to say in general.
(Not that I don't appreciate the timestamp ;P just saying.. hes got some points worth hearing)
Thank you!
southern cali THANK YOU!
Man, I never really sat and listened to Stoute before and I am truly impressed. Dude has a lot of industry knowledge and wisdom that needs to be heard
Graphic designers are the same way. People will pass up on the talent because nobody knows you. The moment you start doing hundreds of projects, that's when the directors call. But here's the thing, they'll want you to deal on their salary. You already have your own salary.
ENVY can be such a Lady sometime
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Great Interview I could listen and learn from him all day!!!
Great interview I must say. He just told his story, plugged his book and dropped a gangload of inside information. Son just spoke like an older cat looking back talking to the folks listening. He did some thangs that changed the game. His name is on a lot of the cd's I have from back in the day. Don't and can't hate, for a change just listen and learn for a second. Much respect Steve.
Steve so right about burning bridges. Its cliche but niggaz listen!!! Dont burn Bridges!!!
So sellout ha fuck that
funny, he was so right about Nicki Minaj it ain't even funny!!
Steve is a career maker, no doubt. Hip hop needs him back. We need a modern MF Doom, a GZA...we need that painting with beats and melody, as WELL as that depth in lyrics.
Relationship management is a must
This is 7 years old posted and he said correctly about nicki Minaj
LL Cool J is so dope for that Gap shit though... respect
Sankofa NYC stg
Yeah. I stopped the interview went to go view it then came back
Facts
These are the guys who sold the game to the white man (i.e cooperate America). They gave them all the keys to the game.
what do you expect from Charlemagne....doesn't he wear eyeliner??????= chatty patty
Steve is right. There is a lack of talent in the music industry, and the money will never be there.
The guy who is taking credit for bringing Cash Money into the limelight is complaining about a lack of talent in the music industry?
@@JustDoWhatITellYou i look at it different. when u look at music movements that occupy a space in time in hip hop and basically change a wave , its because they have a main producer who has a vision that's never been seen before and changes the game. marley marl , dr dre ( 3 different times), q tip, puffy, rya, I'm sure i missing somebody about right here, and mannie fresh all did that. as soon as you take them away , the music goes wrong. so there is talent there, but its the producer who has the vision and he directs the rappers and curates the projects on a whole. cash money was the first south movement that NY accepted. there had to be something there to even think about that happening. just my view . and i so agree tho , 3 years later from your comment, you're right , this DIY approach has made it ...umm.. different..on all levels
"Nobody remembers Karl Kani." Daaaamn!!! lol
leviathanmg mike Tyson interviewed him on his pod cast
wtf...karl kani > fubu IMO
Merco Sage Z
True
Fubu was just a logo on gear, Karl Kanai actually pushed fashion forward, I'll never forget my black KK jeans with chrome belt loops
That’s true hip-hop has bonded cultures. The trip part they controlling it now. They got real hip-hop artists scared to make music for the culture✌🏾💯
JayZ stood on City Hall at the Yankee parade and bragged about selling drugs . The message went right over Bloomberg's head
cross color would of been a better joke
You are so right, rap will never be the same. And no one but people who lived that life knew what those words meant. 😂😂 Now days everybody plays as if they have lived or live that life. You are also right that the music industry aka Record labels will sign anybody, I miss my 90s rap and r&b. 😢😢 Very few good artist and music now days. Music doesn't speak you you or make you feel the way it used to.
honestly out of all the girls ive seen over the years shes the only and i mean the only one who has caught my eye. for one reason or another. steve is right in saying she should make some more hood records, more from the heart records, insted of the dumb ass "stupid hoe" songs you feel me
The fact that Drake wears nail polish now 😂
Steve Stoute not trying to hear any of Charlamagne's bullshit jokes lol
watching this in 2022, 11. Years. Later. - dude hit the nail on the head with Nicki Minaj and Drake. And no cap I *just* bought Tanning of America, a generation later still relevant
Kari Kani was the hottest brand to me. Well, next to Heaven or Hell.
How long ago was this...if he Ani't telling the truth about nikki...its crazy.....well at least she knows shes becoming a personality now😂😂😂
Damion Dash will always be a Legend and has a legacy thats a force 2 b reckoned with his fans will always respect and admire his ambtions and ackalads i jst wish he and jay could have reckonciled and they still can Jay and Nas did and its Classic
i grew up in the times where is started Track Masters... he was the manager of Nas, and Foxy Brown... Helped in the career of R Kelly.. Very rich and powerful guy... and very Rich
when is the audiobook coming out?
this man speaking truth....sign me steve stout MISTER ME THE MYSTERY
There wouldnt be no jay without dame. Its just facts no biggie without diddy
He hit Nicki on the head but she had her turn
I know right...Now I will admit that the freestyle DVD nikki minaj was dope...She actually had bars and a flow; now, she comes up with stuff I can't help but to hang my head in disappointment, sigh and shake my head...
click bait said nothing about Dash going broke
@bluestarmoney true i read somewhere he helped Nas in the mid 90's is that true?
he seems like a clever guy
brilliant interview !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This dude Stoute is so white he expects all drug references to be censored
DaboooogA At the time of the releasing of those videos. According to the FCC drug references were supposed to be censored. It's Steve's naitivity to believe that broadcasters didn't know what rappers were saying. They knew, they were just allowing the pushing of a narrative.
I got fond memories of Karl Kani.