Evans Gambit on The Highest Level || AlphaZero vs Stockfish
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AlphaZero vs Stockfish
AlphaZero - Stockfish Match (2018), London ENG, Jan-18
Italian Game: Evans Gambit. Tartakower Attack (C52)
1. e4 book 1... e5 book 2. Nf3 book 2... Nc6 book 3. Bc4 book 3... Bc5 book 4. b4 book 4... Bb4 book 5. c3 book 5... Ba5 book 6. d4 book 6... d6 book 7. Qb3 book 7... Qd7 book 8. Nbd2 book 8... Bb6 9. O-O Na5 10. Qc2 ed4 11. cd4 Ne7 12. Re1 O-O 13. Bf1 Qd8 14. Ba3 Ng6 15. d5 Re8 16. Bb4 Rb8 17. Rad1 c6 18. Qb2 c5 19. Bc3 f6 20. a4 Bc7 21. Qa2 Re7 22. h3 Bd7 23. Ra1 Kh8 24. Nh2 Bb6 25. Rab1 Kg8 26. Nhf3 Be8 27. Kh2 Bc7 28. Rb2 Ra8 29. Ra1 Bd7 30. Qb1 Bc8 31. Ng1 Qf8 32. Ne2 f5 33. Ng3 f4 34. Nf5 Bf5 35. ef5 Ne5 36. Nf3 Qf6 37. Qc2 b6 38. Re1 Rf8 39. Qd1 Rd7 40. Bb5 Rdd8 41. Rc2 Qf5 42. Rce2 Nb7 43. Ba6 Na5 44. Re4 Qf6 45. Bb5 Nb7 46. Bc4 Na5 47. Ba2 Kh8 48. Bb1 Rde8 49. Kg1 Kg8 50. h4 c4 51. Ng5 g6 52. Ne6 Re6 53. de6 Qe6 54. Ba2 Kg7 55. Qe2 Rf6 56. Bc4 Nac4 57. Qc4 Qc4 58. Rc4 Nc4 59. Re7 Kf8 60. Bf6 Bd8 61. Re4 Nd2 62. Rf4 Bf6 63. Rf6 Ke7 64. Rf4 Nb3 65. Kf1 Nc5 66. h5 a5 67. Ke2 Ne6 68. Rc4 Nc5 69. Ke3 Ke6 70. Rg4 Kf7 71. Rd4 Ke6 72. h6 Ke7 73. f4 Ne6 74. Rd2 Nc5 75. Ra2 Nd7 76. Rb2 Kf6 77. Rb5
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AlphaZero: e4
Stockfish: e5
AlphaZero: mate in 39
😂😂😂 that's a good one.
😭😭😭
Lmao this one
They cracked checkers, it's gonna happen...
@@Abulletinmyhead Chess is a closed system, it had to happen.
"try playing stockfish yourself, you are just going to get destroyed in 15 maybe 20 moves"
You overestimate my strength
I lost in 1 move by stockfish 😂😂😂
I losing by 60 moves most of the time
@@I_am_Itay What he means by "destroyed is the evaluation". If in 15 moves you're down by 3 points against stockfish is already game over. Of course it's possible to prolongue the suffering but still it's a lost game
@@victoroliveira6828 he probably thinks he's grandmaster level lol.
14 moves, white. lichess level 8
At 6:38
Alpha: Kh2
Human: ???
Alpha: Don't worry it'll be obvious in 39 moves
But really, why was that played?
@@ericoschmitt I believe it was prophylactic to avoid a pin or fork. It was just 7 moves ahead instead of 1 or 2. (Usually you castle queenside and move Kb1 to protect a2 pawn and avoid c file pin, for example).
In that position, I was literally thinking king h2. This move allows the knight to g1 and then e2, where it can come to G3 or support f4
@@ukelweno5146 to support e4
Also it gets the king off of the same diagonal as black’s bishop
Guys, I think both players were using engines.
They are both engines.
@@Guztav1337 r/woooosh
shrdlu Bruh
@@Guztav1337 jeeeeez
It's true. They are engines.
"Bishops from hell"
Sounds like a metal band
Fritz Kreisler Laughed at this
Or the catholic church
@@tomnorton7817 😂🤐
Stealing it
I love alpha zero games, because seeing stockfish being destroyed in perfect sequence of moves is just completely mesmerizing.
But i hate to see sf losing 😭😭😭
@Gerbert D Aurillac Well, its still amazing to see Alpha Zero beat Stockfish. It doesn't really matter which version of Stockfish they beat, they are all way beyond what any human can understand anyways.
@Gerbert D Aurillac so how did Lila win convincingly against the latest stockfish recently?
If you put any game of Alpha zero vs Stockfish on Stockfish 10 you will find that to the middle of the game Stockfish consider it equal or better for it, then suddenly after few moves the advantage changes without Stockfish considering its moves blunders or inaccuracies
Gerbert D Aurillac Did it learn playing against stockfish 8? Or does alphazero learn by playing against itself?
@@nemdenemam9753 it was first taught the basic principles of chess. Then, he started playing against himself over and over again.
19:50, personally instead of grabbing knight I would grab a king... with a rook :P
He's only human after all 😅
for alpha that wouldnt be meta enough
I would prefer the knight. 😂😂
lol obviously in a couple of years we will have to move to the alphamator channel
That would lead to Alpha's loss due to illegal move :(
"This is the best move recommended by the engine" -- literally applies to every single move in this game
I bet capturing the white bishop of A0 was better than anything stockfish thought of.
Out of principle no person would allow a bishop pair eyeing their king to happen unless you are on the attack.
Nope. Alpha doesn’t recommend other moves. It just knows the universally best one.
It is finally the Evans Gambit, no more trolling
the trolling is subtle ua-cam.com/video/mJEptlJMT60/v-deo.html
I thought it's April already.
@@dariohenriquez7773 Pffth WTF
"Bishops from hell"
Sounds like a metal band
"once you push a pawn, you can never unpush it"
- agadmator, 2019
Agadmator, creating new verbs and synonyms for the world to see.
When you can make your own words up and still get your point across, you're pretty smart.
Quick facts
your nick is hilarious lol
@User 2389 Well, the original is by Julius Caesar.
"Now, Alpha retreats. Well, basically not retreats, but attacks." - 8:00. Awesome
AlphaZero summed up in one sentence.
"Call an ambulance! But not for me!" - AlphaZero Probably
yeah that was a laugh out loud moment for me:)
I love how 90% of the moves maintained uncommented, because they make absolutely no sense from a human perspective.
That's true. All those moves in the middle game make absolutely no sense to me. It looks like they are randomly moving pieces which are already completely developed without even following a few main ideas.
Agadmator does very well though, especially at explaining general principles like showing how Alpha Zero grabs space, locks opponent's pieces, activates bishops, etc.
Crazy thought: maybe those AI vs AI games are staged to make Google's AI more impressive than it really is, to promote funding AI research
@@MrLaptopus I am incredibly skeptical about alphazero too. It wouldn't surprise me at all. It seems almost unfathomable for alphazero to be real, it seems too advanced compared to other AI
@@Joseph-nh6in It's different because stockfish is engine and not AI. Also take in note that most of those games are draws and not 100% win rate for AI.
@john edwards that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying they might make Stockfish play bad on purpose to make Alpha look good.
"You are an excellent beater of Stockfish. You know - not for real, but in an imaginary line."
I would say it hurt my feelings, but it didnt. It was just a rethorical masterpiece!
Fish beater lmao
@not me I did not mean that in a sense I found the move. I meant it in the way that phrasing of the sentence by Antonio just cracked me up.
@not me So you were right not to believe it - I did not find it. Even though thats not the implication there.
but all he meant was that it was an imaginary line we were looking at. He was not saying that none of us stand a chance against stockfish, albeit that this would be a true statement of course :D
After an exhausting day of having to communicate with people I don't like, you are the best thing to sit and watch while having dinner. Thank you
same bro there are many many people who i despise
I feel u
Bro...
Are you doing fine now?
@@omprakashbaruah9425 hahahah omg, it's goin really very well, thank you, I hope the same goes for you
Stockfish: You
Alpha: The guy she tells you not to worry about
stock fish is still a banger tho able to draw alpha zero 97% of the time winning 1%
Man, id love to be the second best in the world
@@justawarlord 97% no
Stockfish is playing lines and variations but deep mind is playing a type of positional chess where every piece fits on a square in some grand plan
Yup, stockfish is playing like a program, what it is. Alpha Zero is playing like a GM with the accuracy of a program. Thode neuronals systemd are the crossover between us and the machines.
We would probably someday be that good at chess and to other tasks with the Musk project of enhancing our brain yet do we really want to be hardwired?
Honestly I don't mind an AI coded to play chess and to dominate at it but I have hard time understanding how some fools want to expand this to create basically a new race of things brainier than us that would probably be loaded inside a steel envellop, that makes no sense to me. It shows really no understanding of the basical rules of life, the stronger and brainier dominate the weaker.
I like robots, I like them with virtual intelligence, I like them coded tight. AI? No thanks.
@@lecobra418 Actually depends on how human-like neural networks are. From what I have read, it looks like human learning is based on having to reduce the amount of information from one level of the network to the next while still retaining everything of importance, forcing abstraction, just like neural networks. However, choice of width and height are by different means, also humans have possibility of layer-skipping connections. Also possibility of recognizing subproblems that can be solved in parallel with results merged.
Oh! so that's how it goes!
@@rogerfriedman5984 Oh! so that's how it goes!
@@lecobra418 Oh! so that's how it goes!
It looks like stockfish fights heavily for advantage while alpha fights for positioning and destroying the opponent's positioning. It's so mesmerizing seeing how stockfish is helpless against Alpha.
I think I remember a Kasparov game where he sacrificed a lot for positioning and won because of that.
I heard that stockfish just evaluates "the position" but alphazero constantly evaluates "the probability of the victory". It finds the best positions for its pieces, it loves activity and free space.
Alpha aint scared of losing material. Even when it blunders, it makes it so that any choice you subsequently have will be a blunder.
@@iXNomad Stockfish is build on minimax algorithm with alphabeta pruning.. basically it calculates every single possible move to a certain depth (no of future moves) while discarding bad looking moves from calculations. If stockfish is allowed to run for a longer duration and on good hardware it can NEVER lose as it evaluates every single move possible from any given position..
Alphazero is based on reinforcement learning and neural networks. Basically it is made to play against itself till it defines what is good and what is bad and what is strong by itself through experience unlike stochfish which does by calculating piece strength.. It has developed its own style of game and own method of evaluating position which is faster, more positionally intuitive and taking less space (more human than computer)
If stockfish is not allowed to calculate to a great depth, Alphazero can draw or win ...But if stockfish is allowed time to evaluate it will always either beat or draw against alphazero
@@manavkaulAlphazero is based on Monte Carlo tree search. Neural networks are used to produce heuristic estimates of the tree leafs (positions) and random continuations (after achieving a new position in its search, Alphazero algorithm plays a random game against itself from that position. This game is played based on neural network probabilistic recommendations). When the continuation is performed - it's result is backpropagated to the initial position along the search tree. After that, tree search algorithm selects a new position to research based on acquired knowledge in the previous iterations. When the time limit on move is wasted - it makes move to the most viewed during search phase position.
The famous self learning is used to calibrate the neural nets that perform tree estimates and random continuations during the actual game.
19:50 "if you capture with the king you lose the knight."
Actually, you lose the king but details, right?
LOL
stockfish saccing the king for positional advantage. it's just simple endgame theory
So a Late side line of the Kings gambit accepted?
I had never clicked a video so fast in my entire life.
@@LuisParedes-sd3qz dont be rude luchito walls
Same here, brother
Fr😂😂
Same bro
Thank you, Antonio! The Alpha vs Stockfish series is something I always look forward to.
It would be pretty cool to know what Alpha thinks Stockfish should be doing after each move to compare these moves with the moves stockfish actually makes.
stockfish was up two pawns and he had chances to simplify the position with more trades but he didnt
im wondering why
May be both programs thought the same moves@
@@younesstriker2374 why trade when you're up? I would think SF would be able to outmaneuver AZ with the two extra pawns (but apparently not). If it were two humans I would think black definitely preferable.
@@SuedeStonn when you're up material you want to trade down to an easier/simplified endgame. Excellent subscriber should know that😂
del_ ky No, that only works of the pieces are balanced. If one player has a queen and a pawn and the other has a rook, knight, and a pawn, the player with the Queen is ahead in material, but simplifying the pawn trade pretty much forces a draw.
#suggestion show us the game where Stockfish plays the Evans gambit against Alpha with the white pieces
1:01
“Now for the first time in a very long time, we have b4- the evan’s gambit is on the board.....”
Goosebumps, literally......
When you explain the reasoning of AZ's moves with the gift of hindsight, they seem totally logical. But its game-plan is so far beyond what any human would calculate in-game. Really fascinating to watch its "thought" process play out.
You can feel the way AlphaZero is working. Its main goal is to be unexploitable, not to exploit. It leaves no weaknesses, and it suffocates its opponent over time, giving them less and less moves until they inevitably end up in zugzwan (and that's if they don't mess up tactically). Beautiful chess from AlphaZero.
Positional masterpiece. Simply zero counterplay.
It plays like a God.
Absolutely none
Unblocked bishop pairs attacking kingside with double center rook attack and threatening queen combined with perfectly placed knight...Stockfish was probably overheating from all the pressure.
11:57 missed the free bishop, meh.
@@user-jh6kx1fw9h its not free at all trust me
Watching two 3,400+ rated engines battling it out with such precise moves is like watching two Gods of chess that plays the game to perfection.
It’s more like a half-god vs the engine that orchestrated the creation of all gods.
19:49
Rook "Am I joke to you"
Rook vs knight positioning principles used by Alpha One:
17:22 Rf4 ... with a square in-between on the diagonal, knight would have to make 4 moves to capture the rook
18:09 Again
19:05 Again
18:54 Ra2 requiring 3 moves by black to capture the rook, better than Rd4 which would be only 2 moves
Anyway, good to keep in mind strategy between these two at any time but maybe especially in the end game like that.
Despite my laser focus on this point, enjoyed that video
Your videos motivated and pushed me to start playing chess around 18 month ago. I have played over 3k blitz games online and love the game and I enjoy playing with my friends. Thank you for making great videos. You are promoting really chess for everyone! Best channel ever. Love to see you finally analysing an Evin's gambit again.
I hope that more and more GMs will follow this game and play Evan's Gambit. It will be so joyous for you
Nah. Alpha only played it because the opening was predefined, he wouldn't play it otherwise.
Dhanylo Alpha is a true d4
player at heart
Dhanylo she. it.
@@erikadasilva507 Yes, but it proves that with assumed perfect play the Evans gambit is winning for white.
This was not generally thought to be the case and as such its stopped being a part of GM play. Obviously it remains the case that this will never be popular again as its been demonstrated that you need an incredible ability to play it well. But since its so rarely played at the high level some GMS might adopt it as method for destroying lower level or more prepared opponents.
TheUntamedNetwork how does this prove that the Evans gambit is winning for white? Since alpha is stronger than stockfish, we can’t really call this game “perfect play,” can we?
Beautiful. This game. The endgame, especially. Just beautiful. Thank you so much for the additional lines explored.
It is Nice to see that Antonio loves the evans gambit.
Keep up the great work.
Great comments, thank you!
It is interesting to see the differences between human chess and computer chess. The computer programs often develop their positions slowly, compared to a more romantic and daring human style :-)
The way alpha maneuvers its pieces around a somewhat fixed pawn structure is really something else.
We certainly know you’ve been waiting for this!
i thought the alekhine was dead
@Gerbert D Aurillac he i s not actual
@Gerbert D Aurillac 🤣
Alpha learnt by itself to value each piece for its potential in each position, stockfish (and most humans) needs a fixed value for each piece as a guide to discard certain moves and focus (look ahead) on "relevant" moves. Alpha wins against stockfish by lowering the positional value of the pieces subtly and by the time stockfish sees the disadvantage, it is too late. This game is an excellent example of that.
It doesn’t only lower their value “subtly” as we have seen in other alpha games, sometimes it values a well placed knight higher than a misplaced queen.
I always loved the knight, as my favourite piece. But after watching AZ, it's really the bishop that we always overlooked...
I thought alpha actually chose the evans gambit for a second wich would be beautiful.
According to my google search Evan's Gambit and the English opening is what Alpha prefers.
I have been playing chess since I was around 14. In the last six yrs. or so I have been playing a level 1200 AI. It has taken me those entire six yrs. to get good enough to draw or sometimes beat it. Chess is an amazing game. I enjoyed this video a lot. These two chess engines are awesome.
Alpha Zero isn't an engine.
@@decomposedcorpse5186 At the time I did this comment I was not aware of that. I have come to know that since. Thanks for that great comment. I appreciate you sharing a fact with me and others.
@@liliencalvel6151 Glad to have informed you/and or others : )
@@decomposedcorpse5186 I actually did a comment last night in which I remembered not to refer to it as an engine.
Black's dark-square bishop was a tall pawn nearly the whole game
And the Knight was decoration.
Just try to imagine how chess grown since Gioachino Greco till AlphaZero. Hard to believe that game with so simple rules can evolve during more than 500 years!
This game is beautiful at least because of combining ancient openings and the last attainments of civilization!
I don't know much about chess. I wish I were better. But I love watching you explain things at such a high level. You truly have a passion for the beautiful game, and it is very entertaining and enlightening. Chess really is amazing.
3:08 "D5 is basically a signature alpha move"
I guess as a fellow alpha I'll have to push the pawn more often.
I love how alpha always angles the queen behind bishops and rooks
this is christmas come early.
agad you wonderful bastard.
At 8:11 Everyone: Alpha, offering a knight trade doubles your pawns and exposes your king
Alpha: That's how chess works right? *immediately does it
It's amazing how these engines shuffle their pieces around, always ready to ditch their plan and react to their opponent's moves.
Legend says that agadmator convinced alphazero to play the evans gambit!!!!!
:)(:
Keep up the great work. I love the AlphaZero series. I do have one suggestion that I think would be worthwhile if you happen to see this. You mentioned shortly after the forced opening that stockfish evaluated the position as favoring black. I think it would be interesting to know at what point it began to realize that the position was favoring white. In other words, when did stockfish realize it was losing by its own evaluation? Thanks again for all that you do.
Fascinating. Thank you. Please do more with this match up. Amazing how many small, seemingly insignificant, moves are made. Then it all comes together. Great stuff.
Although you didnt mention in the video, i believe that from a human point of view, the key of the game was the "trapped knight" on A5. Alpha plays around it all the game, keeping things going up to the point wheres it is impossible to keep the position together without it. In a recent game (maybe against MVL) Magnus played with the same idea and got a great win. Thanks for the analyses and all the fun.
9:15 Alpha's bishop is so dominant that most of Stock's pieces are in dark squares. It now has free pass through the board, while black's dark squared bishop is working as a pawn. All of this begin when Alpha created a monster knight just for exchanging.
3:17 Bb4 seems natural, it handcuffs the piece guarding the knight and unblocks a lot of your pieces.
I wonder if the same game exists with stockfish being the white
Congratulations, you are an excellent beater of stockfish.
What a savage bishop pair. So powerful in this beautiful game !
That was pretty cool. On an unrelated note something strange happened to me last night. First off I cannot play chess blindfolded, nor can see beyond a handful of moves at a time. I had a dream last night in which I played an entire chess game, with no problems keeping track of the pieces. So I suspect that everyone really does have the capacity for such an ability. Thought I would share that insight.
Do you still remember all those moves?
There is an old joke about Go and I think it applies here as well: Two chess gods are sitting at the board. White makes their first move. Black stares at the board for a moment and resigns.
Congratulations Agad! You are an exelent bringer on Evan's gambit game
We have been asking for Evan's gambit... And noone better (well...maybe Leela) can't make it better than Alph
If you see Alpha with an unblocked bishop pair attacking kingside you know it's approaching endgame.
What you wanted to say is: you know the game was decided about 10 moves earlier.
The most anticipated video of the channel!
12:55 Rxe4 here forces a response from white as an in-between, if Bxf6 then Rxe1+ and Rxf6 provide more than enough compensation for the queen. So white has to capture back and then black can move the queen, which releases some tension from the position, and relative to the line you showed with Re6 white loses a tempo, or has to do something silly like trade queens. White would still be better, but lost some edge from their attack.
The AlphaZero series is my favorite! Please keep going!
Stockfish: accepts the Gambit.
Alpha zero: *SO YOU CHOOSE... CHECKMATE IN FEW MORE MOVES!*
I noticed strong engines that play each other seem to have a lot of back and forth in positions, especially in the mid game. Almost like they are literally analyzing each position on its own rather than going full steam ahead with a plan like humans do.
Nah, they are going: “no YOU worsen your position first.”
Nah, they are going: “no YOU worsen your position first.”
The differences in varations are so small - I mean, you can see the value, but it just highlights the idea that every tiny difference in position can and will be exploited or accounted for at this high level. Amazing.
15:45 "Stockfish now has a pawn for the exchange..." I am a math professor, and there are three types of math professors: The kind that can count and the kind that can't count. Having observed this fact ... I worry that Agadmator might also be a math professor ...
wait how is that three- ahh
I see what kind of math professor you are
How is he wrong
Rook captures knight
Pawn captures rook
Queen captures pawn
You improve analysing skills day by day and of course it is getting much beautiful with Alpha zero game👍🏻
Bobby Fischer Says: e4 is best.
Stockfish:d4 is best.
Alpha Zero: NOPE.
19:50 Funny to see as the rook guards the pawn. King can't capture it. But I just smiled 😊
A rich, subtle, tactical game with great analysis.
You know it's an engine game when you see the kings dancing during the middlegame
It’s them going: “no YOU worsen your position first.”
Watching these games always provides some temporary hope as I generally have at least one move like bishop one in beginning of this game-a move which seems to make no sense. Only difference is in the case of alpha-zero it does make sense.
I think I might have watched this video for more than 10 times now and this is still beautiful and magnificent
17:17 No, you can't avoid a trade of bishops because if you play Bc7 or Be7(?) then black gets a discovered check with Bc3+ and black loses the knight.
"This is just a monster knight" ... T-shirt please !
You can alwsys tell when Stockfish runs out of ideas when it starts to make repetitive moves. It's given over the initiative to Alpha.
Lovely game is an understatement, just fantastic. Thx for a great analysis Sir.
This video is what everyone was waiting for 🤩
It's a different level of chess, never ceasing pressure and winning by strangulation!
Well, I was gonna go clean, then I saw that alpha zero thumbnail in my notifications
This is the best chess channel on UA-cam.
The wait is over finally!!, razor sharp evans gambit is on the board. Awesome stuff..
Nice to see the Evan's Gambit being used again in high level chess.
They were forced to use it
Jobava doing pretty great comeback in Abu Dhabi Tournament after down to 2500,
His game vs Parham is pretty good
#suggestion
Alpha always amazes me. Love these videos
Going to have to try that Gambit, I like the c4 opening and the bishop pairs, see some similar stuff here. Thanks for this game, I enjoy these super high level engine games.
Scary to think that the engine that makes me conpletely losing within atleast 12 moves is beaten in such a manner that it has to sacrifice a rook for a knight even when it was up two pawns .
"Queen will come to nasty light squares" 😂😂
Thank you for providing us with the daily commentary even in the doctors office!
Thanks A lot. I’ve been waiting for this game for months
Alpha in complete control the whole game, amazing, it's like Ben Finegold playing rufus and doofus
"it's at the move 10 that we have a completely new game"
Alphazero: "hahahahahaha"
Great Evans gambit there. Love it. Thanks.
Man these videos are so good...love watching engines play
Its crazy how ridiculously strong AlphaZero is. I dont think even Magnus can win against Stokfish.
Obviously he can't
magnus would not win a single game in 100 vs stockfish.
engines are ridiculous
Brooo.... Stockfish would win with Magnus with knight odds, it's like if I remember correctly 3100 rated
What a joker
@@kajetangorski1960 Stockfish 8 (the version who played Alpha Zero) was approximately 3400 rated. Stockfish 10 is now rated approximately 3600.
This video makes me want to always have a bishop pair. Such a beautiful game.
Thank you ! Always enjoying this gambit =)
This channel ... just GREAT STUFF everyday !!!!