9 Minutes of Best Mel Reflect Moments

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  • @magnov983
    @magnov983 8 днів тому +581

    "Skillshots take skill to land, so we made a champ that easily aimlocks unlimited skillshots back at you when people skillfully hit their skillshots. She is invulnerable and has movespeed in case this does not happen. Balanced"

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +47

      "Lets throw autolocks back too"

    • @JeffGranja27
      @JeffGranja27 8 днів тому +76

      I have my tinfoil hat on but I feel like developers in charge of new champs just make shit that they would personally like to play and that covers their low plat ass elo, like "I can't win lane so I make an adc that just outscales other adc if given time = Smolder", "I like being tanky and unkillable but I don't like not dealing tons of consistent or burst damage like bruisers or assassins = K'Sante", "I like artillery mages, but they take too long to scale, I suck at last hitting plus I'm dogshit and can't sidestep skillshots = Mel". I don't have proof, can't get proof, but I have no doubts, now I'mma finish my blunt

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +9

      @JeffGranja27 they are making her broken for Arcane fans. Now those same Arcane fans are complaining about bans existing when she is straight up broken and otherwise worse than Zed or pre-nerf Kassadin for regular League players.

    • @rz2953
      @rz2953 8 днів тому +16

      this skill need 30 second cooldown at max level at the very least, i am amazed they even allowed it to reflect multiple skillshot

    • @onddu2254
      @onddu2254 8 днів тому +15

      Honestly the only change I'd really want, is that she gets slowed or is in stasis during that time. This way if you fuck it up, you get punished. Now it's just a free stasis but also movement speed and you can do everything normally. It's ridicolous that you can bait her w but she still wins or gets away because of free ms.

  • @Taylor-bw4zg
    @Taylor-bw4zg 8 днів тому +122

    76% ban rate on release. This champ is either going to be at every worlds for the forseeable future or shes getting the zeri treatment, and considering shes from the show i HIGHLY doubt shes gonna get the zeri hammer

    • @Adam0193Official
      @Adam0193Official 7 днів тому +5

      She’s already been nerfed once since her release and statistically speaking, she’s balanced rn.

    • @CedricatorftPitchit
      @CedricatorftPitchit 7 днів тому +2

      is this 76 before or after hotfix? Do you have data to compare with other realease because i saw her in a lot of ranked , but i remeber some champs on release we would never see

    • @Raymoclaus
      @Raymoclaus 7 днів тому +2

      A lot of champs have high ban rate on release. Makes sense because early on, you don't want team mates who barely know how to play the new champ, and you don't want the new champ on the enemy team because you barely know how to counter them yet. Hardly matters if they're op or not for a little while.

    • @Whitedudeabove
      @Whitedudeabove 7 днів тому

      Ban rate means literally nothing because people will just ban anything new. Also, she currently has below 50% winrate.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 6 днів тому +2

      @@Whitedudeabove 74% banrate gold+ on leagueofgraphs. Why blatantly lie about something on the internet? And nothing got this high of a banrate for years.

  • @stefel7765
    @stefel7765 8 днів тому +209

    I'd be so much more fun for both parties if mel instead "stored" a projectile and had to fire and aim it in a small time period

    • @newchanel-d5t
      @newchanel-d5t 8 днів тому +36

      actual amazing idea

    • @Josh-tg5ys
      @Josh-tg5ys 7 днів тому +5

      I really like this actually

    • @suhyeokloverr
      @suhyeokloverr 7 днів тому +2

      that'll be useless given the cd

    • @georgewayne5197
      @georgewayne5197 7 днів тому +15

      @@suhyeokloverroh my gosh you’re so right! this change wouldn’t work because riot would have no way to tweak the balance afterwards

    • @__Oku__
      @__Oku__ 7 днів тому +9

      Mel's game dev (Riot Emisery) said in an interview that they actually tried that. But it didn't work well in game and didn't make sense for Mel.

  • @worldboxvn8214
    @worldboxvn8214 8 днів тому +43

    Honestly,i don't even surprise anymore. Ambessa have 30 dash in 1 min is already bad enough,but her daughter just make her look balance immediately right out of the gate

  • @alexiskyritsis5462
    @alexiskyritsis5462 7 днів тому +15

    The fact that Mel can outrange Xerath is "AMAZING"

  • @simsom4343
    @simsom4343 8 днів тому +159

    Can I just say, Mel's Q is honestly one of the coolest spells visually in League atm
    There's just something about all the tiny missiles flying that's really satisfying to watch

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +6

      Yes, even if it is busted, its nice to see the projectile source follow Mel

    • @dannys9074
      @dannys9074 8 днів тому +22

      its awful gameplay wise. she has no animations or anything. youre running around and all of a sudden these twirly lines start coming at you.

    • @JeffGranja27
      @JeffGranja27 8 днів тому +3

      Lower the goddamn range already

    • @HarpieLady683
      @HarpieLady683 8 днів тому +1

      yeah but they need to shorten the range, it's unfair since it starts doing dmg almost instantly

    • @nfzeta128
      @nfzeta128 8 днів тому +2

      It's like a 4x cooler Sera auto (max passive stacks)

  • @KevinPoulsenFrndz
    @KevinPoulsenFrndz 8 днів тому +10

    For me the main issue with her W is that for the vast majority of cases it requires the Mell player to fuck up. On the hands on someone that has the patience and chill required to never panic W, the ability is unbeatable.
    (Yes I only peaked Diamond 2 LAN, so about Gold 1 EUW, I am not high elo)

  • @oskarmukerji2819
    @oskarmukerji2819 7 днів тому +11

    That ability should honestly reflect towards the casting position, not where the enemy is at the moment of the reflection. Fun as it looks, i don't think it's fair

    • @wing459
      @wing459 5 днів тому +2

      Most people don't stand still and cast so I understand why it re-targets otherwise it would just always miss.
      It doesn't look fun to play against though for sure.
      What gets me is at 1:02 against Ahri it appears to also massively increase her hit box as well which feels way to generous all things considered.
      It shouldn't reflect things that weren't initially going to hit in my opinion.
      Maybe I'm wrong and Charm's hit box is just that large, but I slowed it down to half speed and it definitely reflects from the very tip of Mel's shield which appears significantly larger than her character's hit box.

    • @vlads.3192
      @vlads.3192 4 дні тому

      doesnt matter, since the projectile speed is like 3 times faster and you cant dodge it from certain distance.

  • @DejvidR6
    @DejvidR6 8 днів тому +23

    my favorite is still when samira is just not alowed to ult i just flash w into her ult she dies in like 0.7 sec

    • @xZigeRx
      @xZigeRx 3 дні тому

      MF is really funny to watch too

  • @raymondreaper2554
    @raymondreaper2554 8 днів тому +74

    3:22 the Jhin was heartbroken lol

    • @hepsima
      @hepsima 8 днів тому +7

      ok idk mel seems kinda busted 🤣🤣

    • @Porkey798
      @Porkey798 8 днів тому +13

      I would be too If I got killed with the press of a button for clearing a wave. Disgusting ability

    • @raymondreaper2554
      @raymondreaper2554 8 днів тому +3

      @@Porkey798 Exactly!! It was ridiculous

  • @cylindercycle4577
    @cylindercycle4577 8 днів тому +11

    This is horrifying

  • @Mr_Zobm
    @Mr_Zobm 8 днів тому +22

    these clips are brutal

    • @Azzapp
      @Azzapp  8 днів тому +12

      Thanks brother, most of these were just from the first few days. Way more to come!

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      @Azzapp thank you for playing her well, because there are still people refusing to believe that she is broken and this helps demonstrate otherwise

    • @madethisatschool
      @madethisatschool 3 дні тому

      @@magnov983 any champ would look broken if played well like yasuo

  • @Skoll-Hati
    @Skoll-Hati 8 днів тому +32

    Reflecting a blitz hook under my own tower is possibly the sweetest moment I have had in League.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +4

      Its like you're playing Blitzcrank without any of the downsides of playing Blitzcrank

    • @Skoll-Hati
      @Skoll-Hati 8 днів тому +1

      @magnov983 exactly

    • @GiantBluebird
      @GiantBluebird 8 днів тому +2

      @@magnov983 Blitz has no downside. He is a perfect being.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      @@GiantBluebird mana issues, and he is nerfed by his lore being ruined from arcane

    • @GiantBluebird
      @GiantBluebird 8 днів тому

      @@magnov983 Skill issue, and Arcane isn't classic league like Blitz anyway.

  • @ThiefX99
    @ThiefX99 8 днів тому +12

    Mel reflect acts like a script on skill shots

    • @vlads.3192
      @vlads.3192 4 дні тому +1

      yeah, if you taking consideration, that"most" powerfull skills shots has quite a cast time, only mentally challenged person cant reflect something like Ezreals ult, ahris E and other... this champ is way to go if you are mechanically numb and want legal scripts

  • @Lance17967
    @Lance17967 8 днів тому +3

    At this point, the alt accounts that azzapp uses mel should be renamed to "Beware the W"

  • @dubvascl5840
    @dubvascl5840 8 днів тому +10

    5:43 Wait what. Reflecting ezreal ult proced malignance

    • @Maouww
      @Maouww 4 дні тому

      *scribbles furiously in notepad*

  • @baval5
    @baval5 8 днів тому +116

    A good nerf to Mels reflect would be if she had to aim the reflected projectiles, that way she could still use it mindlessly as a defensive option but if she wants to reflect them back its a skillshot. At the same time it would open up new play avenues for Mel reflecting attacks back at people other than the person who shot them. And if you reflect an entire teams attacks like the first clip you just obliterate one person instead of the whole enemy team.
    Alternatively they could give it a cast time so you have to use it predicatively and cant use it reactively. That would make it feel more fair since you could properly bait it, but it would probably get a lower CD then.

    • @danielpritchard510
      @danielpritchard510 8 днів тому

      She does have to aim if it's not a targeted ability

    • @zer5034
      @zer5034 8 днів тому +41

      @@danielpritchard510 she doesn't, it reflects it back in the direction of the source at the moment of impact, you can see that in the video with the Ashe arrow, and you hear Azzapp talking about it

    • @baval5
      @baval5 8 днів тому +14

      @@danielpritchard510 No, it always reflects back at the person who originally fired it. You can see it happening clearly in the Ahri clip.

    • @pinknwhitie
      @pinknwhitie 8 днів тому +2

      But that wouldn't be a reflect anymore. This would be an ability similar to Zoe's W

    • @baval5
      @baval5 8 днів тому +7

      @@pinknwhitie Arguably, but the same could be said about Fioras Riposte which can fire its line at enemies other than the one she Riposted. At the end of the day it would still be reflecting the projectile, and reflections dont always go back directly to their source.

  • @robertbowers7119
    @robertbowers7119 8 днів тому +5

    I feel like my only issue with Mel W is the fact that it changes certain ability mechanics so that the interaction is favorable for her even if it breaks the original ability. Most notable here is Jhin Q returning to him rather than the closest target (I guess it's a targeted ability so it auto reflects to the caster?) but worse is Zoe Bubble getting infinite range as if it is going thru a wall when it clearly doesn't 8:42

    • @Josh-tg5ys
      @Josh-tg5ys 7 днів тому +2

      Since the bubble had extended range from being thrown through a wall before hitting Mel, it keeps that same range when it's reflected. I do agree that it's very stupid though that the original mechanics of the spell are not preserved when the spell gets reflected. Lazy coding imo, since they literally just take the current stats of the spell and copy it to the reflected one.

    • @captaineflowchapka5535
      @captaineflowchapka5535 7 днів тому +1

      target spell are target back at their original caster
      that that simple line ,told in text and presentation .
      jhin threw the grenade ,the grenade is threw back at him like a veigar R

  • @anon_private_user
    @anon_private_user 8 днів тому +13

    I still don't get why this champ wasn't given a support kit after they showed her protecting a jayce from jinx R & her supporting cait to 2v1 a fed ambessa on top of having a mini arc to show she is a special mage who has some sort of empathy magic.

    • @manaswin123
      @manaswin123 6 днів тому +4

      imagine Jinx's R at the end of SS1 got reflected to her in Zaun, that would be hillarious

    • @tapewoerm
      @tapewoerm 3 дні тому

      She’s a control mage, they’ve always been supportive in play style.

  • @joseroa5243
    @joseroa5243 8 днів тому +7

    Mel is busted, her W has a 35 second cooldown, yeah, but for a long as that W is operational i'm unable to use any of my skills, i can't properly play while she's around, even Vex, a champ legitimately made to stop dashers doesn't have a skill that says "while you dash you recive 50% burning damage"

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +2

      Imagine if Poppy W was on an artillery mage, as if Vex could use her passive whenever she wanted to instead of on her first ability

    • @Shiropan260
      @Shiropan260 5 днів тому +1

      She doesnt use w. You dont use your cc abilty. Fair trade.
      Her dmg is dog. You will do more dmg.
      I understand its hard to not press an abilty for some ppl, but I promise its not that hard.
      You can also skilltest her on things like max range xerath stun. If it hits u all on. If she reflects then just walk away, it wont reach you. And guess what? U got 30 seconds to blast her a third hole.

  • @breeze4766
    @breeze4766 2 дні тому +1

    beyond the broken reflect, I didn't realize she only had a 4 second cooldown on her q and 7 seconds on her e with only a single cooldown item built. while I might be wrong, I think that is lower than 90% of other mages' cooldowns

  • @Seriousasaninfarc
    @Seriousasaninfarc 8 днів тому +2

    They need to make the counter window shorter, with a recovery penalty for usage, but faster recovery frame on successful counter. Like in fighting games.

  • @Anor4c
    @Anor4c 8 днів тому +5

    Love the use of the tft set 10 music

  • @mosdeadly98
    @mosdeadly98 7 днів тому +6

    Everyone when seeing mel thought she'd be well designed. Everyone. It was such an easy champ to balance just one reflected spell or even just reflect spells but no you gave her a half kayle ult that reflects and gives movespeed.

  • @chucklesdesu3768
    @chucklesdesu3768 4 дні тому

    Still though watching mel deflect amumu Q and be pulled into our team has to be one of the funniest interactions with this ability

  • @rizoto6874
    @rizoto6874 8 днів тому +4

    I will name that abuility(Mell W) "Return to Sender"

  • @voidroad
    @voidroad 8 днів тому +33

    1:01 nah man , thats just not fair , reflecting in a line ok but the charm legit curved like a targeted missile wtf

    • @pokimantwo8
      @pokimantwo8 8 днів тому +5

      "legit cruved"

    • @uneterostardust8233
      @uneterostardust8233 8 днів тому +16

      That's not a curve, the direction changed *in a straight line* to face Ahri's new position.

    • @GiantBluebird
      @GiantBluebird 8 днів тому +4

      Absolutely putrid game design. The devs of current multiplayer games would probably laugh Riot out of the room if the found out what Riot was up to.

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira 6 днів тому +1

      Get glasses.

    • @venteex
      @venteex 6 днів тому

      ​@@uneterostardust8233what this guy said

  • @asherheiwada5056
    @asherheiwada5056 8 днів тому +35

    People will go through hell and back to defend mel W, it's insane.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +1

      simply because its "different" which means its good I guess???

    • @nyanbrox5418
      @nyanbrox5418 8 днів тому +4

      It's fun af man, now yasuo windwall? That's too far

    • @trevormckay677
      @trevormckay677 8 днів тому +2

      Just dont throw your skillshots at her? Shes an anti poke champ, dont poke it really aint that hard

    • @Raymoclaus
      @Raymoclaus 7 днів тому +5

      Why would anyone defend it? It kind of defends itself. /s

    • @rckbrch
      @rckbrch 7 днів тому +5

      ​@@nyanbrox5418 True, people really be crying over a new concept. There are far more overpowered spells, like Wind Wall-it’s a wide-range AoE that also blocks everything. Plus, Yasuo has so many dashes that he can one-shot you. Samira blocks everything in a full 360° circle around her and can dash to you, basically killing you with a moving Katarina ult.
      Meanwhile, Mel gets jumped on, and most of the time, her W is useless, to be honest. She’s an immobile champ. Even if you pick a team without many skill shots, Yasuo still benefits from Wind Wall because it also blocks basic attacks in a wide area for several seconds. Mel, on the other hand, only blocks something for one second-then you can just jump her.
      Most of the clips you see of her show enemies with a lot of skill shot-based champs. Of course, that’s more fun to watch, which is why people upload it. Her high win rate? Well, of course-she's an easy champion. Players keep comparing her win rate to Hwei’s, but he’s way harder to master, so obviously, his win rate is going to be bad in the first few weeks. Mel is simple.
      You know what’s actually OP? Her passive execute. That’s way more broken than people crying about her W reflect.

  • @Misurji
    @Misurji 7 днів тому +3

    It's so fcking broken that it returns projectiles homing at the target and not in a straight line just like they were thrown. Only reflected point and click projectiles should behave like that.

  • @sionara2285
    @sionara2285 7 днів тому +5

    Mel W, is a single person taric R, with a better samira W, these two abilties i find very strong alone. i dont understand how this can ever be balanced

  • @animan8192
    @animan8192 6 днів тому +1

    Mel's shield at max rank costs 0 mana and has 23 seconds cooldown. It stays for 1 second and deflects most of enemies' crucial attacks back at them and requires skill only in timing, moreover, it gives her movement speed. She's ranged, so even w/o the shield it wouldn't be so easy to catch her w/o taking any damage
    Gwen's mist at max rank costs 60 mana and has 18 seconds cooldown. It stays for 4 seconds and makes Gwen ignore attacks from outside the mist and requires skill in timing AND positioning to be effective, moreover, it gives her some resistances that'll help her live an attack or two more. Gwen is melee, so it's not too hard to get in her mist, if it's positioned correctly, and it's not that hard to kill her w/o the mist.
    Gwen's mist isn't an instant "FUCC U 😡" to anybody attacking her, it's more of a "Fucc off 🥱"
    In conlusion, BUFF GWEN! (jkjk, nerf Mel, it's not okay)

  • @diaperamess
    @diaperamess 8 днів тому +3

    the reflect skill shot should be slower speed. seems to hard to dodge and would make sense since reflect something makes it lose speed

  • @Zlody-piano
    @Zlody-piano 7 днів тому +2

    they should make w to reflect a single instance of damage

  • @cylindercycle4577
    @cylindercycle4577 8 днів тому +6

    She shouldn't be able to move while reflecting, or she shouldn't be invulnerable during it. Or both. It will FEEL way worse to play because as it is she can cast everything fluidly while moving, but man, idk. Against a competent player you basically have to hold your projectile skill indefinitely, and that's usually the skill your maxing. It's nuts

    • @Raymoclaus
      @Raymoclaus 7 днів тому

      1. Use your projectile, knowing that you will have to dodge it when reflected.
      2. Her W is now on a 23-35 second cooldown while your ability is likely back a lot sooner.
      3. ???
      4. Profit.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 7 днів тому +3

      @Raymoclaus If youre running a poke champ you lose 50% of your health for "baiting out her spell" so good job

    • @Raymoclaus
      @Raymoclaus 7 днів тому

      @ Skill issue

    • @e_masters9777
      @e_masters9777 7 днів тому +1

      @@Raymoclaus it locks if she reflects it for some like you saw ahris charm not so sure about ultis like jinx ashe briar but for alot of mid laners ive seen it follow as if it were a pac ability

    • @Raymoclaus
      @Raymoclaus 7 днів тому

      @@e_masters9777 It reflects back at the attacker's position at the time of reflection, but only locks on if it was already a targeted projectile. That means, unless it's something like Annie Q, you can in fact dodge it.

  • @eminkilicaslan8945
    @eminkilicaslan8945 3 дні тому +1

    Well Riot had put a halt to 200 years champs since Akshan, there it goes on again.

  • @Phailox
    @Phailox 7 днів тому +3

    easy fix. make her W an active spell that lasts for a specific amount of time, where the spell can be activated again for reflection effect. That also makes it possible for enemies to wait it out, rather than being locked out of their skill shots while in a fight with her.

  • @gently5713
    @gently5713 7 днів тому +1

    Make it an absorb or something with a 2 second window to aim and unleash the abilities absorbed

  • @TheWarClouddV2
    @TheWarClouddV2 8 днів тому +9

    Auto attacks shouldn't be able to be reflected and you should have to aim your reflect

    • @danielpritchard510
      @danielpritchard510 8 днів тому +3

      Stop autoing her she's only as good as her opponent is bad

    • @adamfremal5914
      @adamfremal5914 8 днів тому +5

      ​@@danielpritchard510yeah just let her get away from you because she clicked W.. really interactive and fun

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +1

      @danielpritchard510 yeah! Lets be unable to carry a game because my feeding midlaner keeps shooting skillshot CC at her and losing us the game!

    • @PeterJurgen-Bengo
      @PeterJurgen-Bengo 8 днів тому +3

      Yeah it's just broken, caitlyn just one taps herself with no counterplay.

    • @danielpritchard510
      @danielpritchard510 8 днів тому

      @@TheWarClouddV2 negative when rate in every elo above silver

  • @dibel3669
    @dibel3669 6 днів тому

    mel really said "Five" on that Jhin

  • @fisktulol1181
    @fisktulol1181 7 днів тому +1

    Mel might be the funniest champion i ever played

  • @ntdb0ss
    @ntdb0ss 8 днів тому +1

    Maybe a scaling damage cap that breaks the shield up\pon taking too much damage (still reflecting that instance of damage). Makes it high value against utility and a Morgana black shield on heavy abilities. upon shattering due to too much damage, sudden burst of movespeed, around blitscrank lvl

  • @outofconnection7726
    @outofconnection7726 8 днів тому +3

    honestly they have to nerf the duration of the w make it more similar to samira that it is not all powerful

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      That's one way to do it yes, although I dont think thats the one that removes the most frustration

  • @g.a.1794
    @g.a.1794 8 днів тому +7

    Ty zapzap for introducing Vel'Koz to me. 60%+ winrate ain't that bad. People underestimate me and tell me I'm trolling. Proving them wrong feels nice.

  • @Nic_La
    @Nic_La 5 днів тому

    The thing for me is that shit reflects everything. Make it only reflect the first ability (no auto atacks) like sivirs shield and things will be different.
    Is crazy to compare old vs new.

  • @xirafen
    @xirafen 8 днів тому

    Fade music is actually nice with this

  • @jhonnatanserna5711
    @jhonnatanserna5711 2 дні тому +1

    Great, I have an idea for the next champ now that we believe giving so much agency to champs with no downside whatsoever is so fun, o wait, sure lets give it a high cooldown so its balance.
    People that defends Mels W for sure wont have a problem with this. Just play around it, bait it or something.
    Seeing mel w is like a samira windwall(Is a self cast barrier thats eats all projectiles while it last) while also giving her kayles Ult with onmidirectional invulnerability while also letting her move and auto/cast spells on top of reflecting them to the caster that throw them. We can tell we just have to put multiple abilities in a blender while also giving it a more innovative concept so its just a little different.
    I know, this assasin will have a kind of poppy W aura but instead of stopping or preventing the caster to be able to dash it will prevent or stop any kind of defensive type defensive ability.
    If you for example cast yasuo windwall or braums shield and this assasin aura touches it, it will break, the same with any enchanter shield. The same with Mels W,Kayles ultimate and any invulnerability ability as it will force it to end.
    Its been way to long since assasins have been push out of mid lane and champs keep getting bullshit defensive abilities.
    Of course it will have a 30s cooldown and it even needs you to be on top of people with range so they are inside the aura, just play around its cooldown, have good positioning, bait it with a teammate or dont use all your defensive abilities at the same time, you can still hit the standart cc abilities any mage is supposed to have so the assasin cant engage on you. It also dosent stop dashes so you can flash it or move away from the aura.

    • @andrealasorte7747
      @andrealasorte7747 2 години тому

      you are trying to make an exaggeration but that is unironically a lot more fair than her W
      at least it would be a melee champ that gets up close,you could kite them or CC
      the fuck you do when mel outranges you and even if she gets caught she goes for the uno reverse,that is on the same level of Ksante's ult making all the intended weakness of his class irrelevant

  • @leonshirogane5541
    @leonshirogane5541 7 днів тому +1

    there is no wait it out you can only bait it out with like some fake out or animation cancel.
    like if you hold your W they can't do much.

  • @CIaudiator
    @CIaudiator 8 днів тому +6

    0:20 he missed every single spell that fight but the 2 reflected by his W and he killed shaco and ahri

  • @InnerPeace-ky5
    @InnerPeace-ky5 7 днів тому +2

    Yeah… they will need to nerf this skill to the ground with how piss low its skill cap is. I mean reflect + movement speed + invulnerability on a mage is overloaded af. 1 Zhonya is already BS enough, now we have a champ that has the prestige version on command? Nah.

  • @KentoIsogai
    @KentoIsogai 8 днів тому +1

    I would be fine with this ability reflecting and all that but I’m not okay with this ability being a full invincibility for 1 sec even from non-projectiles

  • @shieldgenerator7
    @shieldgenerator7 5 днів тому

    5:00 that reaction time tho!

  • @UnpluggedCord
    @UnpluggedCord 5 днів тому

    Amumu Nautilus and Leona players love when you play Mel xD

  • @ThomasWilliams-bw3cu
    @ThomasWilliams-bw3cu 7 днів тому

    The only thing I would nerf about the reflex is the movement speed she gains and the speed the projectile comes back. It should be slower when you return back to the sender. Also, not reflecting AA, just abilities

  • @LostSquire
    @LostSquire 5 днів тому

    The 8:45 Zoe E reflect honestly confuses me.
    I've played a couple of games as Zoe vs Mel, and one thing that was extremely consistent was that when the E was reflected, it'd just drop at Mel's feet. As hers, but going nowhere.
    I imagine it's because Zoe's E projectile drops off and starts bouncing into a puddle at the end of it's cast range, and by the time it reflects off Mel, it's already going down.
    So, the fact that your reflect there on the E actually did something? It's weird. I don't know why it's different.

  • @Gabbababschwab
    @Gabbababschwab 7 днів тому +1

    they made a dota item into a league hero nice

    • @vlads.3192
      @vlads.3192 4 дні тому

      Yeah, funny enough that dota spells are mostly AOE, so the items is quite situational... on the other side, her W can be used on literally 90% of all spells in league ^^

  • @DeanBradshaw-y4w
    @DeanBradshaw-y4w 22 години тому +1

    I feel like the w ability needs to either mimics the abilities effect but deal no damage but obviously you take no damage or just negate a single ability and deal damage back without mimicing the effect. This ability is just toxic. Not many champions can bait out the ability without consequence and its much easier to reaction press w than it is to try and bait the ability and set conditions to land skillshots

  • @mateusznowacki2781
    @mateusznowacki2781 6 днів тому

    Beware the q? More like beware the W in that case xD

  • @aidenhill2697
    @aidenhill2697 7 днів тому +2

    this is so broken

  • @novy1198
    @novy1198 8 днів тому +5

    the more i watch mel the more disgusting champion she seems, this Q without any warning, pretty much instant, E that travels pretty fast and far, ult with stacks and execute, all of this seems so weirdly overpowered, maybe not broken but wayyyy too good. i dont mentioned W because it seems not that good but might be a life saver for sure

    • @mrZocker11
      @mrZocker11 8 днів тому +1

      "i dont mentioned W because it seems not that good" wtf are u talking its her strongest ability

    • @charmelos1431
      @charmelos1431 8 днів тому

      q does poo poo damage (16% ap) if your mouse isn't disconnected. E deals little damage if the center doesn't hit. A stacking ult is inherently worse than a not stacking ult (lux can kill you from a screen away without hitting you beforehand). Execute doesn't matter since any other mage kills you just as fast (or faster).

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      @charmelos1431 51% AP ratio on Q at minimum, which Q is guaranteed to hit completely (look at the ability), E is for CC, and she does not die to mages because of her W (only if you are Syndra or Xerath will you die)

    • @charmelos1431
      @charmelos1431 8 днів тому

      @@magnov983 if you're mouse is connected, you will simply move in one direction instead of standing still. Moving reduces the amount of bolt that hit and therefore reduce the damage.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      @charmelos1431 no one will walk in a straight line. Mel can place her W in front of you, and by the time you react to it you are at the center of the ability. Consider playing the game

  • @Maouww
    @Maouww 5 днів тому

    The power creep is insane.
    Her root is a better lux Q and W in one skill, her W is a better Sivir spell shield that lingers, her E is basically corki's entire kit, and her R is a karthus ult with execute.
    Question is: are they gonna nerf her base scaling for pros only, or are they gonna nerf her lategame scaling and she'll still be viable in proplay JUST COZ OF THE W?

  • @MegiddoRain
    @MegiddoRain 5 днів тому

    If these people ever played KH2 they would've known Reflega is OP

  • @jamescarr6380
    @jamescarr6380 5 днів тому +1

    It makes no sense that the projectle is reflected back to where the champ is currently at, instead of where they were when they originally launched the skill shot. It should not have this 'homing missile' interaction. Her W also needs to not be a 100% damage reduction, essentially allowing her to fully tank burst combos which has nothing to do with reflecting a spell back at its user. Until Riot makes those changes she is going to be consistently pick or ban unless her Q/E/R gets GUTTED.

  • @RolandisPog
    @RolandisPog День тому

    I didnt expect him to play karilingadin from valorant

  • @andrealasorte7747
    @andrealasorte7747 3 години тому

    2:17 azzap : "this champ is going to reshape how league is played"
    also azzap : Nooo the champion i'm abusing is completely balanced!!!
    i used to respect him A LOT but he's on an high cope this time

  • @samcoronado6351
    @samcoronado6351 8 днів тому +1

    beast

  • @aitordominguezcomin9147
    @aitordominguezcomin9147 8 днів тому +2

    I think I know why mel is overtuned and not the best posible design. Her W doesnt have a downside. Mel as a champ feels completed without the W. The W feels like an upgrade for a champ, not part of the champ.
    For example blitz’s Q is very powerful, but the champ is nothing if you miss it. Mel doesnt have that problem with her W. She should feel like have a champ if she doesnt get to block habilities.

    • @GiantBluebird
      @GiantBluebird 8 днів тому +1

      Well Blitz wasn't taken out of a roguelike game to be put in League. That's how every new champion feels like, a fully decked out Roguelike main character.

    • @aitordominguezcomin9147
      @aitordominguezcomin9147 7 днів тому +1

      @ take velkoz for another example. The ult is very easy to aim and can deal true dmg. That alone is not balanced. But to deal the true dmg, you need to proc 3 stacks of the passive landing hard to land skillshots. That synergy, which Mel lacks,is what makes vel a good character.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 7 днів тому

      @aitordominguezcomin9147 Vel'Koz has to stand still to use it and turns slowly

    • @aitordominguezcomin9147
      @aitordominguezcomin9147 7 днів тому +2

      @@magnov983 yes. You are just making my point.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 6 днів тому

      @@aitordominguezcomin9147 i c i c

  • @Atlys101
    @Atlys101 8 днів тому +11

    Honestly, nothing about Mel W is fair. I genuinely don’t think it should be in the game. It is extremely uninteractive.

    • @HarpieLady683
      @HarpieLady683 8 днів тому +4

      I cringe at people pretending to be skilled pressing that ability

    • @GiantBluebird
      @GiantBluebird 8 днів тому +1

      @@HarpieLady683It's so cringy. I play Anivia, and I constantly throw my Q out to her, she always walks up to it and reflects it before I even have a chance to shatter it. It makes her look like she knows what she's doing but really she just gets lucky.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 7 днів тому +1

      @GiantBluebird plus her hit box gets massive just to be able to reflect it

  • @Roaivan
    @Roaivan 8 днів тому +3

    i wish the take off the execute of this champ. shit doesnt make sense

  • @danielrafa6122
    @danielrafa6122 8 днів тому +1

    Make her W her ult with 1 min cd and give her a shield or something for w

  • @lgod5899
    @lgod5899 8 днів тому +1

    aRCANE ASS champ, most broken champ I have ever seen

  • @chimeraelite
    @chimeraelite 6 днів тому +1

    Personally I think one of the worst examples of her W is at like 1:43 against Azir ULT. It's not a projectile so no reflect, neat, but it just NEGATES it completely? Nah that's fucked up. Should purely be a reflect, considering how powerful that is already, it would allow some actual countering just like you'd expect playing against Yasuo. It reflects projectiles and she doesn't take damage from what she reflects.

  • @exgensishd18
    @exgensishd18 8 днів тому +1

    I would say nice clickbait but everything in that sentence is true

  • @mpbiggame1010
    @mpbiggame1010 8 днів тому +3

    2:24 is that a good thing...?

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +1

      no, because she punishes you for landing an ability on her. Shaco at least requires a clone and the enemy to not pay attention, but he is short range otherwise and does not execute entire teams

    • @LazoGT
      @LazoGT 6 днів тому

      yeah it is, different champs should be played against in different ways and every new champion should bring something new never seen before mechanic into the game. thats how it has been for a long time. people also complained about akshan revive, hwei's 10 skills, smolder's execute, etc. they'll balance it.

    • @andrealasorte7747
      @andrealasorte7747 2 години тому

      it is for him because he plays her

  • @grand3820
    @grand3820 8 днів тому +1

    Jhin players definitely won't permaban her cause holy 😂

  • @shieldgenerator7
    @shieldgenerator7 5 днів тому

    this is a really good champ in the right hands, but i dont think shes broken

  • @imoutochan5954
    @imoutochan5954 8 днів тому

    W music choice i love set 10

  • @j00loves00rock
    @j00loves00rock 7 днів тому

    What is the 1st song it sounds so nice

  • @faselfasel2864
    @faselfasel2864 8 днів тому +6

    Mel should NOT be able able to move during her Q. Thats what pushes her over the edge. Syndra is paying for that feature by having 0 defensive abilities. It makes her neutral too strong and almost unpunishable.

    • @GiantBluebird
      @GiantBluebird 8 днів тому

      Mel is trash game design, Riot just wants to sell her. She's bullshit and everyone knows it.

  • @feranks3211
    @feranks3211 7 днів тому

    great, now I miss tft music set😂

  • @jeremymikhaelcogan7639
    @jeremymikhaelcogan7639 8 днів тому +1

    To counter mel, they need to add spell animation cancel so you can bait the W

    • @danielrafa6122
      @danielrafa6122 8 днів тому +3

      Needs to be her ult at a 1 min cd

    • @gonzalopelaez5649
      @gonzalopelaez5649 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@danielrafa6122 And make her ult the new W?
      Hell naw

    • @danielrafa6122
      @danielrafa6122 8 днів тому +2

      @gonzalopelaez5649 no, give her a basic shield... if kayle gets ult for 2 seconds to be invulnerable why not make mels's 1 second invuln + reflect her ult

    • @charmelos1431
      @charmelos1431 8 днів тому

      @@danielrafa6122 her ult cd is longer than a minute at max rank.

    • @charmelos1431
      @charmelos1431 8 днів тому

      @@danielrafa6122 it's 2.5 and kayle can target allies and it deals deals damage in a large aoe.

  • @tosse006
    @tosse006 7 днів тому

    what is that instrumental playing in the video i swear i have heard it somewhere before.

    • @khaos_rwq
      @khaos_rwq 3 дні тому

      its Fades trailer song from Valorant if you are of thinking the first song

  • @Moxie2017
    @Moxie2017 День тому

    I don't think she should be immune to damage. From skillshots, yes but I think melee damage should still go through.

  • @sighkek1670
    @sighkek1670 8 днів тому +1

    That champ is so cancer for the game

  • @mmdmsbah2374
    @mmdmsbah2374 8 днів тому

    0:06 ezreal R , neeko E , neeko Q
    0:26 ahri E
    0:52 shaco E
    1:02 ahri E
    1:19 ashe R
    1:43 azir R ( huh )
    2:06 diana Q
    2:32 ezreal R
    2:45 fizz R
    3:14 jhin Q3 ( geometary banger )
    3:53 jhin 4th shot
    4:11 jhin 3rd shot + Q
    4:44 pyke Q
    5:01 pyke Q
    5:19 senna W
    5:41 ezreal R
    5:57 thresh Q
    6:39 thresh Q
    7:02 xerath E
    7:36 HASAGIIIIIIII
    8:19 ziggz passive ( how the F did he see that ) i had to play it frame by frame to see it
    8:44 zoe E
    9:15 zyra E
    ABSOLUTE CINEMA

  • @dannys9074
    @dannys9074 8 днів тому +2

    the champ is awful because her moives are horribly choreographed. you cant tell what she is doing. shes running around wand all if a sydden twirly lines come at you

  • @victor-ur5zu
    @victor-ur5zu 7 днів тому +1

    5:07 what a buggy hit box wtf ? ! You didn't take the true dmg bruh cringe spell

  • @DirtBlock223
    @DirtBlock223 8 днів тому +3

    ezreal feels like he would actually be a good counter to mel because he can constantly be making you use ur w and then attack during it's downtimes.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      You can only ult once

    • @ShellShokerPT
      @ShellShokerPT 8 днів тому +1

      a counter to mel is someone who doesnt have skillshots for her to reflect not literally the champion that 3 of his 4 skills are skillshots lol

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      @ShellShokerPT she also reflects his E projectile in case it wasnt fair that she only reflects skillshots

    • @DirtBlock223
      @DirtBlock223 6 днів тому

      @@ShellShokerPT I bet you throw veigar r into yasuo windwall silver noob

    • @ShellShokerPT
      @ShellShokerPT 5 днів тому

      @DirtBlock223 lmao "tell me youre a gold plat peaker without telling me a gold plat peaker" ah person

  • @Corsaan
    @Corsaan 8 днів тому +6

    Got my first penta with her and the last kill I reflected a veigar ult and one shot himself with it

  • @nastynas9178
    @nastynas9178 5 днів тому

    Wow lmao giga busted + giga comedy

  • @xmst5
    @xmst5 3 дні тому

    im not sure but i think she's strong

  • @MrLuuuuv
    @MrLuuuuv 6 днів тому

    the more i look at it thr more annoyed i get. What counter play when they can react to ability??

  • @IrellevanD
    @IrellevanD 4 дні тому

    Honestly i just dont get how can it be so hard to do a simple mindgame of "just do your combo but delay the one ability she wants to reflect". Like huh? As Ahri, dash into Mel, but dont use Charm right away, most will react with W and bam, easy fix.
    For Veigar or Cait ult.... RIP.

    • @andrealasorte7747
      @andrealasorte7747 2 години тому

      so hope she's braindead?
      what if she's not an iron 6 and waits for her E animation to use her W?
      or she fights back while you're holding your spells hoping she will panic Ws

  • @mitomen2000
    @mitomen2000 8 днів тому +5

    This champion is fucking disgusting, broken, and unfun. Banning it every time till some bigger changes roll around...

    • @Adam0193Official
      @Adam0193Official 7 днів тому +1

      You do know she’s already been nerfed once, right? Her stats show she’s actually balanced rn.

    • @fristajlo
      @fristajlo 7 днів тому

      XD ​@@Adam0193Official

    • @crusaderofthenile4829
      @crusaderofthenile4829 7 днів тому +1

      Wait tell the next champ come out xd then you must choose which one to ban (evil laughter)

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 7 днів тому

      @Adam0193Official reflecting enemy abilities is never balanceable unless the base champ does close to zero dmg

  • @uneterostardust8233
    @uneterostardust8233 8 днів тому +5

    Calling it now, the community will Hyperfocus on the Reflect mechanic instead of the Instant Q with wide circle range, or the W that makes you Invincible for one second- they will B1tch about it untill riot De-works mel and makes her another boring burst mage by removing her unique mechanics.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому +1

      They need to minimize her range and/or AOE if they want to keep W. Her W is allowed to be gamebreaking if her Passive, Q, E, and R were not also standalone insane abilities

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      Unfortunately the unlimited reflects is what makes me want to ban her regardless of her strength because it punishes skill

    • @Johnnyyaguchi-w7y
      @Johnnyyaguchi-w7y 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@magnov983 holding your abilities is a skill as well. The same way you just don't grab a darius closer to your adc as blitz, you don't mindlessy throw stuff at mel.
      90% of these plays is a guy throwing a skillshot just because and dying for it. Don't throw is just because

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      @Johnnyyaguchi-w7y 3:08 Jhin throws his Q because he wants to clear a wave and gets punished for his ability auto-targeting an unintended target when he just wanted cs. If you believe he intended to hit Mel you are delusional.

    • @Johnnyyaguchi-w7y
      @Johnnyyaguchi-w7y 8 днів тому

      @@magnov983 notice the "90% of those plays" in my previous comment. It might help you understand it better

  • @eliebordron5857
    @eliebordron5857 7 днів тому

    Man I would watch an hour of that

  • @AgZeH
    @AgZeH 8 днів тому

    im bouta buuuust

  • @magnov983
    @magnov983 8 днів тому +2

    Artillery mages need to be able to get caught out for bad positioning. Her W lets her reflect things that werent even intended for her (3:08) while she still maintains massive range. Invuln abilities are never on high-range champions outside of Kayle, who has to deal with being Kayle for the first half of the game. If her range was removed drastically then she could be balanced with her current W, but if she does not want to become another Ryze they will have to change that ability. Otherwise, I like my teamfight ultimates and I will be permabanning her

  • @dantagorgaming4297
    @dantagorgaming4297 8 днів тому +2

    I played several times against Mel (only in low diamond euw level), but she can't do anything against Garen mid. She reflects nothing (Garen ult is only just 0 dmg, but she doesnt reflect it).
    It's still annoying anyone can reach 11 cs/min in this champ tho...

    • @Nyaxxy
      @Nyaxxy 8 днів тому +2

      yea her counter is sticky/fast/dash melee characters. Still taking 0 damage from a Garen execute is nice if you can pull it off and kite under tower.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 8 днів тому

      If your team has an AOE wave teamfight ulti, she can do something against you later on
      And Garen is balanced around his ulti existing, removing it completely from his kit should not be taken so lightly

  • @yorik1006
    @yorik1006 8 днів тому +1

    Banning her until they remove the reflect (never)

    • @Adam0193Official
      @Adam0193Official 7 днів тому

      Maybe consider using your ban on champions that are actually problematic like Viktor or Akali instead of on Mel. She isn’t that OP.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 7 днів тому

      @@Adam0193Official wow very convincing

    • @e_masters9777
      @e_masters9777 4 дні тому

      Akali??? ​@@Adam0193Official

  • @chessex260
    @chessex260 15 годин тому

    That just looked like absolute bullshit wtf is this ability. Riot 400 years design experience