As a Seventh Day Adventist and with everything that is happening in the world and unfortunately in the church I am now very particular about which SDA pastors I listen to. Pastor Vine and Pastor Kelly along with Dr Walter Veith are some of the very few pastors I will listen to now. Thankfully we still have a few pastors who will speak truth and truth only.
Yes, those 3 certainly speak the 'straight testimony'. Fortunately, there actually are many others who do or we would be in trouble. So many have watered the message down so much and are taking on the ways of evangelicals and siding with the pope. We have some real issues happening in the leaderships of our church and deep dive studying is not so desireable by many anymore. We need all the straight shootin' preachers we can get. All this feel good preachin' is gonna come back to bite.
An articulate speaker, who zeros in on the real issues, and points to the only real solutions. I am always amazed when I hear one of Conrad Vine's presentations! I cannot recommend him highly enough!
Dr. Conrad Vine is one of the TRUE WATCHMEN, that i count on one hand that i listen to. Why? Because, the Holy Spirit speaks through him. I heard this particular sermon earlier this week and i was not the same; the reason being that HISTORY is my favourite subject; especially in relation to Biblical Prophecy. His humility is SO refreshing and his message WILL WAKE you UP! Happy Sabbath to God's People and pray for the protection of this WATCHMAN.
The summary of Ellen G. Whites *"Great Controversy"* argument is thus concerning the Apostasy of the Apostolic Church from her book, in chapter 3. 1. The Apostle Paul and John warned that the Apostasy of the Church Christ instituted. And, that the apostasy of the Church was going to happen and was already happening in 53AD and by 90AD, the Apostle John was already commanding people to *"Come out the Church Christ instituted upon the Apostles, the prophets and Christ being the chief cornerstone.* Thus, the "HER" and Harlot of Revelation 18 to EGW and Adventism is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the *book of Revelation is begging all the Christians to leave the Church Christ died for and John, Paul and all the Apostles labored to bring into the "ONE Faith", ONE Body, the ONE Church to an end regardless of Christ's promise to never leave it or the gates of hell prevail over it. *
Thank you Village church for recording these messages for us to hear and for edification and preparation! Recording these messages is not an easy task but as a non member of your church but an SDA member from a different state, I look forward to these messages. I listen to them every Sabbath and sometimes throughout the week. May the Lord continue blessing all of you! 🙏 🙏 🙏
Thank You Pastor Vine. Asking GOD in Jesus to keep you safe and well in your comings and goings, being sound in your Faith and Belief, with teaching in Truth and in the life of Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏❤
My granddad left Ukraine with my mom and his wife in June 1929. Stalin started his starvation of 15 million Ukrainians in Dec 1929. Wow! It was tough in Canada only he lived till his 70's, and now has at least 100 descendants. Only learned this history a few years ago. Thank you and sending love and blessings.
I’m blessed with every word this dear man shares. It’s time friends to share what’s coming and stand for truth. I love people enough to offend them here, to save them there.
We are so blessed to have Ps. Vine and others in our Movement. I appreciate his method of Past, present and future. God used the same method in Joshua 24 as He spoke through the prophet to Israel. I am so blessed,. and have learned so much,
Praise the Lord. Yes, this message is encouraging for all Christians to stand up for truth no matter what the consequences are. The beauty of Christ ,His character must be seen in us. Blessings Village.
I was truly blessed. the word of God spoken straight from the throne of God. When you stand up for truth and right though the heavens fall, God will bless you with His Holy Spirit.
I am happy that pastor Condrad and Ron Kelly stood against vaccine mandates even though GC also went blindly with science and wanted to make world happy. I am so disapointed on SDA view regarding what happened during last years. Shame on those. But these two guys gain my respect👍
The GC went along with it because they received covid money from the government. They had no choice but to promote the vaccine. Better to do without the money or even accept and pay a fine than to do what they have done to our people.
@@estherroberts8466 Amen for seeing thru this smokescreen. We ought to hear the gospel on Sabbath gathering not askewed critique by the righteousness of conservative America. Dr Vine so loves American Evangelicals whom he wants Adventism to emulate. This is dry self serving preaching. Sorry!
GC went blindly , but not with 'Science'. There was nothing truly scientific about anything the Government did regarding vaccine mandates. This whole thing was one of the least scientific events in history
Hebrews 10: 22 is speaking to us in the same matter pastor Conrad: “let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water” Thank you for sincere call!
Praise Almighty God for the TRUTH spoken and the Light shared here by this Servant of God. Let the LIGHT of JESUS CHRIST Shines and Overwhelm and save as many from this evil dark ideology from our world. Holy Spirit guide your people thru these dark times Amen.
If I help someone, whether they are Black, White, Brown, Tan, or Yellow, I help that person with my conscience of thought, mindful that they're needing assistance on a difficult task or are not able to do at the moment. We as Christians are to do good things for other's from the heart, having compassion, with good intent, knowing that this person in front of you was made in the image of GOD, but to always offer those in need of help and assistance!
I was trying to listen to this sermon but I was having trouble because I think I’m lost. My divorce was my fault and I live with constant mental torture. I can find no relief. I lost my home and all my pets. I should have show more love to my husband. If I showed the love of God to him we would still be together and my kids would be happier.
Hey Nelly. I'm not sure what I ought to say in terms of advice or consolation however the least I can do is remind you that God loves you and that He's always there for you. He is willing to forgive any sin that we may have comitted. So just take it to Him in prayer. I pray that things get better for you 🙏🏽
Oh Lord, I cannot hear this. I had no idea what happened to these people who suffered so much. If I cannot bare to hear it how much more could I have stood it. Surely I would have been one of the first to starve to death or shot to death. Oh, the evil the evil. God help us all.
Such a disgrace for the adventist church to have a PRO CHOICE official stance on abortion and to have also an official statement that says the SDA Church DOES NOT OPPOSE HEALTH MANDATES... What a shame!
Do you read your Bible? Even in Jesus time, the church wasn't perfect. Do you expect the Adventist church to be perfect? We, ourselves as individuals are the church (the temple), are we perfect? It's sad that allllllllllllll churches (all denominations) might stand for some things that God hates. Remember we live in an evil world. Now let your light shine and preach God word brother not your criticism. 🙏
@@lljl5310 What a disgrace to ACCEPT the failures under the pretenses of FAULT of all around us.... I want BIBLICAL ARGUMENTS, not human disgraceful pseudo-assertions! A true church is BIBLICAL. The pro choice official statement is NOT biblical. Sola Scriptura is NOT a real principle in SDA! What a shame... These are dark, filthy days. That is why Ellen White said we are laodiceeans ..... God is about to VOMIT adventist church, just like th message to Laodiceea says!!!
@@lljl5310 All you say is true. But it isn't wrong to express shame for that in the church representing those things we do NOT support. And comparing the two, I hear more criticism from your own response than in the "brother" you took to task. Is your light shining?
@@lljl5310 Your attempt to deflect responsibility is wrong. The Bible clearly says "Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear." 1 Tim 5:20. When Church does wrong publicially it is right for it to be publicially rebuked. You are conflating criticism with rebuke, but they are different.
The person that did the call to offering ( I think it was him, someone in between the 2 services anyway) right b4 Dr Vine indicated that Jesus did not get his humanity from Mary.. His statement seemed wrong to me.
Where exactly do I find the article that was mentioned-An appeal to the Christians of America? I looked on the Village SDA Church website, but don’t see it.
Go to villagesda.org/liberty, scroll down toothed bottom. There are two download buttons. One is the article you want, the other is the PowerPoint presentation.
Rev 12v18 ? at 38:48 . Daniel 12 v1 mentioned earlier in the talk is the third woe on humanity .This does not happen until the " bride " ; the 144,000 with the character of Jesus is made up . This character is developed by petitioning grace to achieve agape love for all as per John 21. Once that number is made up probation for the SDA closes and anyone not striving for that character is excluded from salvation .Jesus holds back the winds of strife until the 144,000 are established . The winds of strife cause the Al - Aqsa mosque to be destroyed which is the catalyst for all versions of Islam to unite in a holy war against the " west" . Just as Clovis removed the Ostrogoths from Rome and then became the power supporting papal decrees ,,so America will counter the third woe with violence and use the pope as the corrector of heretics to justify the deaths . America will have a form of killing that can target anyone anywhere and the woe will fade as they realise " who can make war with him" . The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit of Rev 11v7 is the restablishing of the papacy as the corrector of heretics due to the circumstances of the third woe . All woes are perpetrated by the influence on humanity that came from the bottomless pit as the smoke of a great furnace ; in essence ,the papal wound is healed by the bottomless pit providing the circumstances . This is why E White prophesised that Daniel 11v31to35 would be repeated . This time round though the 144,000 with signs and wonders from Rev 18 will be doing the preaching of righteousness . Uriah Smiths understanding of 11 v 36 to 39 as France was correct .But that interpretation has a typological element to it ,in that it is inclusive of all governments that are of the people for the people seperate from bible influence ( 501c ) . By ignoring Smith and claiming v 36 to 39 referrs to the pope this understanding can not be concluded and we are unequiped to warn the world of the impending disaster .It is by that warning that we get a head start on papal influence that is promoted by counteracting the woe .
You keep referring to the state of affairs in America……or is that just me. The country has turned against God and there is a violent price. Who would have thought it possible
God The same. Yesterday 677 BC until a pepole again 457.BC sum 220 years. Today. 318 AD Religious liberty 538 AD Sunday law Sum 220 years Future. 1798 Liberty 2018 Anuel Council SDA. Sum 220 years than persecution.
The summary of Ellen G. Whites *"Great Controversy"* argument is thus concerning the Apostasy of the Apostolic Church from her book, in chapter 3. 1. The Apostle Paul and John warned that the Apostasy of the Church Christ instituted. And, that the apostasy of the Church was going to happen and was already happening in 53AD and by 90AD, the Apostle John was already commanding people to *"Come out the Church Christ instituted upon the Apostles, the prophets and Christ being the chief cornerstone.* Thus, the "HER" and Harlot of Revelation 18 to EGW and Adventism is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the *book of Revelation is begging all the Christians to leave the Church Christ died for and John, Paul and all the Apostles labored to bring into the "ONE Faith", ONE Body, the ONE Church to an end regardless of Christ's promise to never leave it or the gates of hell prevail over it. * 2. The falling away, was NOT those who left the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. *but THOSE WHO REMAINED WITH the Apostolic Church* Christ instituted was "falling away" . And, ONLY those who would LEAVE the Church (the use of Rev. 18:4 by the SDA) would be saved, while those who followed in obedience to the Church would be lost. 3. The falling away in her mind described in 2Thess. 2:4 *was caused by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church abandoning the enforcement of the Sabbath commandment upon the Gentiles.* and that every Christian must become Jewish first, before claiming to be Christian and the claim of Cephas to be Pope. 4. EGW and the SDA claim was that faith through Grace in Christ and the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Holy Spirit was and is not sufficient to keep a person from murdering or stealing..etc., thus the spirit of lawlessness. And, that ONLY by the LAW of 10 commandments could keep people from sinning, NOT by the Holy Spirit. 5. She also claimed that suddenly somewhere long before 325AD, the Catholic Church decided to have a Pope, who was the Vicar of Christ and no one in the entire known world protested. This was *"already occurring"* in 53AD when the Apostle Paul wrote 2Thessalonians 2 while at the same time the Apostle Paul as calling the Peter, "Cephas" meaning Rock. And, prior to that Christ named Him "Rock" from the moment Christ called him and so did every other Apostle who spoke the Aramaic language, as Christ and most of Judea at the time. Only those who DISOBEYED the Church could be saved in EGW's teaching. 6. She then claimed by the time of Constantine, the entire known world of Christianity had fallen away "to join forces with the Pope" and that was "The Great Falling Away" prophecied in 2Thess. 2:4 in 325AD. Yet, not one voice protested anywhere in the entire known world of Christianity. 7. For Ellen G. White, persecution and martyrdom of the Church was a good thing and the church living in peaceful times was deplorable. She would have much preferred that the torture of the Christians continued than have peace. 8. In the end, Ellen G. White and the Adventist church teaches the Papacy didn't begin until 538AD according to their 1260 day prophecy, but that conflicts directly with their own writings which say the Papacy was already ruling in 325AD, which is 217 years or more difference. Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: *"THE GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself “above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. …. "No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. *The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that “mystery of lawlessness”* (2 Thessalonians 2:7, R.V.) which, *EVEN in Paul’s day, had begun its work.* Chapter 3 of Great Controversy. Yet, there is no record of any "Controversy" about a change from the Sabbath to Sunday in the records of Church history. 9. EGW's and the Adventist's point is that Christ ( *God himself in the flesh* ) could *NOT* and did not *"Point mankind to the true and Living God"* And, that only by Sabbath keeping could they come to know God, period. 10. Lastly, Ellen G. White had this to say in her Book, "Spiritual Gifts" . What a beautiful line is this from Ellen G. White: " "No matter how powerful the evidence given of Jesus' being the Son of God, the Redeemer of the world; *they had murdered him* , and could not receive any evidence in his favor. Their only hope and consolation, like SATAN 's after his fall, was in trying to prevail against the Son of God. They (THE SABBATH KEEPERS) continued their rebellion by persecuting the disciples of Christ, and putting them to death. " *(Spiritual Gifts, 101)*
Smooth words but a disturbing mix of half history and applied Adventist pressure points. The glib dismissal of guns in this speech hides Vine's right wing prepper mentality that I saw firsthand in my iteration as editor of Liberty magazine-- when he and an accomplice sat in my office and pressured me to run an article on a Christian's right of self defence and use of violence. I ran it as an "Opinion" piece--an opinion at loggerheads with a founding Adventist principle of noncombatancy; established in the midst of a civil war. His ignorant invocation of incipient Marxism in the US belongs in the Macarthy era of paranoia, and further reveals its origin by his advancement of anti-vaccer extremism. SDAs long avoided this type of thing as the privy of Jehovah's Witnesses. Yes, every vaccine has side effects, but only a flat earther could fail to recognize that modern longevity is almost totally the result of the utilization of germ theory/handwashing, antibiotics and mass immunization. The real test of late, which we Adventists failed, was shutting down organization and churches during Covid as " non-essential" services. And foolish Adventist political partisans take note: the mandate was under both parties' administrations. A precedent has been set and the time of trouble is still ahead. But no matter, push ahead with double doses of sanctimony and ego; let's just ignore that the present lack is spiritual life.
My dear brothers and sisters, don't be deceived! The Pharisees in Jesus' time had the right Sabbath day but didn't know the God of the Sabbath! And so would you if you hold on to the non-biblical Trinity doctrine instead of worshipping the "only true God" as Jesus Himself puts it in John 17:3!
As a Seventh Day Adventist and with everything that is happening in the world and unfortunately in the church I am now very particular about which SDA pastors I listen to. Pastor Vine and Pastor Kelly along with Dr Walter Veith are some of the very few pastors I will listen to now. Thankfully we still have a few pastors who will speak truth and truth only.
Yes, those 3 certainly speak the 'straight testimony'. Fortunately, there actually are many others who do or we would be in trouble. So many have watered the message down so much and are taking on the ways of evangelicals and siding with the pope. We have some real issues happening in the leaderships of our church and deep dive studying is not so desireable by many anymore. We need all the straight shootin' preachers we can get. All this feel good preachin' is gonna come back to bite.
Agree!
Really blessed
Amen. We must discern who the wolves in sheeps clothing are. Pull on the wool to see if it's real. If it comes off then it's a wolf. Run.
An articulate speaker, who zeros in on the real issues, and points to the only real solutions. I am always amazed when I hear one of Conrad Vine's presentations! I cannot recommend him highly enough!
Amen! I love listening to all his sermons.
God First. Why should persons think otherwise. He's so very exceptional and to the point. ❤
Brilliant Dr!!!!!!!! What a relief, there are SDA's that's awake after all!!!!!! 💪😁
Dr. Conrad Vine is one of the TRUE WATCHMEN, that i count on one hand that i listen to. Why?
Because, the Holy Spirit speaks through him.
I heard this particular sermon earlier this week and i was not the same; the reason being that HISTORY is my favourite subject; especially in relation to Biblical Prophecy.
His humility is SO refreshing and his message WILL WAKE you UP!
Happy Sabbath to God's People and pray for the protection of this WATCHMAN.
The summary of Ellen G. Whites *"Great Controversy"* argument is thus concerning the Apostasy of the Apostolic Church from her book, in chapter 3.
1. The Apostle Paul and John warned that the Apostasy of the Church Christ instituted. And, that the apostasy of the Church was going to happen and was already happening in 53AD and by 90AD, the Apostle John was already commanding people to *"Come out the Church Christ instituted upon the Apostles, the prophets and Christ being the chief cornerstone.* Thus, the "HER" and Harlot of Revelation 18 to EGW and Adventism is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the *book of Revelation is begging all the Christians to leave the Church Christ died for and John, Paul and all the Apostles labored to bring into the "ONE Faith", ONE Body, the ONE Church to an end regardless of Christ's promise to never leave it or the gates of hell prevail over it. *
It cannot be a man that putting his thoughts beliefs above any medical knowledge The church is shaking Babylon is in the Church.
@@sheririchmond1646 Those of the Sabbath of the old covenant are the Harlot. And, that IS why the scripture says “COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE!”
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Powerful! Phenomenal!
Preach on it! Yes… He’s GODS Academic for The Lords TRUTH
Thank you Village church for recording these messages for us to hear and for edification and preparation! Recording these messages is not an easy task but as a non member of your church but an SDA member from a different state, I look forward to these messages. I listen to them every Sabbath and sometimes throughout the week. May the Lord continue blessing all of you! 🙏 🙏 🙏
This was an amazing presentation. Thank you.
I want to stand for God today and always 🙏🌹❤️
Thank You Pastor Vine.
Asking GOD in Jesus to keep you safe and well in your comings and goings, being sound in your Faith and Belief, with teaching in Truth and in the life of Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏❤
My granddad left Ukraine with my mom and his wife in June 1929. Stalin started his starvation of 15 million Ukrainians in Dec 1929. Wow! It was tough in Canada only he lived till his 70's, and now has at least 100 descendants. Only learned this history a few years ago. Thank you and sending love and blessings.
Nothing can be more truthful than GOD speaking to us within in our own examination of conscience?
I’m blessed with every word this dear man shares. It’s time friends to share what’s coming and stand for truth. I love people enough to offend them here, to save them there.
Except he he goes against scripture what therefore God has joined together let not men put asunder
Powwerful word. Deep and empowering; encouraging faith in God.
We are so blessed to have Ps. Vine and others in our Movement. I appreciate his method of Past, present and future. God used the same method in Joshua 24 as He spoke through the prophet to Israel. I am so blessed,. and have learned so much,
Worth listening again.
Praise the Lord. Yes, this message is encouraging for all Christians to stand up for truth no matter what the consequences are. The beauty of Christ ,His character must be seen in us. Blessings Village.
What a blessing that there still are a man with faith, and the Truth.
I Thank God for that.
Thank God for your courage to proclaim truth.
Amen! Thank you for this sermon.
Thank you sincerely for this needed message.
Praying for Dr Vine and Walther Veith
I was truly blessed. the word of God spoken straight from the throne of God. When you stand up for truth and right though the heavens fall, God will bless you with His Holy Spirit.
AmeeeeeeNN! WE ARE ON THE LORD'S SIDE SAVIOR WE ARE THINE.
I am happy that pastor Condrad and Ron Kelly stood against vaccine mandates even though GC also went blindly with science and wanted to make world happy. I am so disapointed on SDA view regarding what happened during last years. Shame on those. But these two guys gain my respect👍
The GC went along with it because they received covid money from the government. They had no choice but to promote the vaccine. Better to do without the money or even accept and pay a fine than to do what they have done to our people.
Yes, the GC threw us all under the bus. I don't trust our leadership at all anymore. Praise God for pastors like Kelly and Vine!
God is not pleased when His children attack each other. He alone is Judge!
@@estherroberts8466 Amen for seeing thru this smokescreen. We ought to hear the gospel on Sabbath gathering not askewed critique by the righteousness of conservative America. Dr Vine so loves American Evangelicals whom he wants Adventism to emulate. This is dry self serving preaching. Sorry!
GC went blindly , but not with 'Science'. There was nothing truly scientific about anything the Government did regarding vaccine mandates.
This whole thing was one of the least scientific events in history
Thank you Dr. Vine.
Thank you Dr Vine, be richly blessed
Hebrews 10: 22 is speaking to us in the same matter pastor Conrad: “let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water”
Thank you for sincere call!
I had never read history. I now know we have a lot to learn from the past. Prophecy is history made known before it happens.
Wonderful message! Thank you so much!
Thank you Lord ,thank you pastor God bless us all 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Praise Almighty God for the TRUTH spoken and the Light shared here by this Servant of God. Let the LIGHT of JESUS CHRIST Shines and Overwhelm and save as many from this evil dark ideology from our world. Holy Spirit guide your people thru these dark times Amen.
Such an amazing speaker.
Happy Sabbath, Dr. Conrad Vine
"Your life has cosmic significance." Every decision matters beyond the obvious moment, location, and situation.
I love the Rich study I get watching them!
Muchas gracias!
Thanks!
Amen!
Hallelujah 🙏
If I help someone, whether they are Black, White, Brown, Tan, or Yellow, I help that person with my conscience of thought, mindful that they're needing assistance on a difficult task or are not able to do at the moment.
We as Christians are to do good things for other's from the heart, having compassion, with good intent, knowing that this person in front of you was made in the image of GOD, but to always offer those in need of help and assistance!
Without fear and favour preaching and teaching.
Thank you for coming to our church NNSDAC
AMEN!🙏🙏🙏
Amen .
I believe in the blood of Jesus Christ to cleanse me of my sins, but not all believers do have faith in Jesus Christ
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. May we spend more time in the word, and be inspired by the testimony of others. Blessings.
Deep stuff.
I was trying to listen to this sermon but I was having trouble because I think I’m lost. My divorce was my fault and I live with constant mental torture. I can find no relief. I lost my home and all my pets. I should have show more love to my husband. If I showed the love of God to him we would still be together and my kids would be happier.
Hey Nelly. I'm not sure what I ought to say in terms of advice or consolation however the least I can do is remind you that God loves you and that He's always there for you. He is willing to forgive any sin that we may have comitted. So just take it to Him in prayer. I pray that things get better for you 🙏🏽
Oh Lord, I cannot hear this. I had no idea what happened to these people who suffered so much. If I cannot bare to hear it how much more could I have stood it. Surely I would have been one of the first to starve to death or shot to death. Oh, the evil the evil. God help us all.
Amen.
🙏🌎⌛🌍🙏
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Amen...
Why is the video blocked on UA-cam I have audio but no video
Such a disgrace for the adventist church to have a PRO CHOICE official stance on abortion and to have also an official statement that says the SDA Church DOES NOT OPPOSE HEALTH MANDATES...
What a shame!
Do you read your Bible? Even in Jesus time, the church wasn't perfect. Do you expect the Adventist church to be perfect? We, ourselves as individuals are the church (the temple), are we perfect? It's sad that allllllllllllll churches (all denominations) might stand for some things that God hates. Remember we live in an evil world. Now let your light shine and preach God word brother not your criticism. 🙏
@@lljl5310 What a disgrace to ACCEPT the failures under the pretenses of FAULT of all around us....
I want BIBLICAL ARGUMENTS, not human disgraceful pseudo-assertions!
A true church is BIBLICAL.
The pro choice official statement is NOT biblical.
Sola Scriptura is NOT a real principle in SDA!
What a shame...
These are dark, filthy days.
That is why Ellen White said we are laodiceeans .....
God is about to VOMIT adventist church, just like th message to Laodiceea says!!!
@@lljl5310 All you say is true. But it isn't wrong to express shame for that in the church representing those things we do NOT support. And comparing the two, I hear more criticism from your own response than in the "brother" you took to task. Is your light shining?
@@lljl5310 Your attempt to deflect responsibility is wrong. The Bible clearly says "Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear." 1 Tim 5:20. When Church does wrong publicially it is right for it to be publicially rebuked. You are conflating criticism with rebuke, but they are different.
Indeed. Because neither you nor I were given the opportunity to oppose such a vote!
Twisting so much wow u into Babylon The church is Shaking and is Shaking Lord let it shake let it shake
so are kulaks the "unvaxt" today?!
Good question
The person that did the call to offering ( I think it was him, someone in between the 2 services anyway) right b4 Dr Vine indicated that Jesus did not get his humanity from Mary.. His statement seemed wrong to me.
Where exactly do I find the article that was mentioned-An appeal to the Christians of America?
I looked on the Village SDA Church website, but don’t see it.
Go to villagesda.org/liberty, scroll down toothed bottom. There are two download buttons. One is the article you want, the other is the PowerPoint presentation.
@@conradvine1074 Thank you! God bless you.
I too have been looking for the article and can’t find it. It’s been over a year. Ideas?
@@ddaldousI spent a long time and couldn’t find it
Satens test run, for what is happens today.
Thanks for the video! The opening music has drums, this dishonors our Lord.
Rev 12v18 ? at 38:48 . Daniel 12 v1 mentioned earlier in the talk is the third woe on humanity .This does not happen until the " bride " ; the 144,000 with the character of Jesus is made up . This character is developed by petitioning grace to achieve agape love for all as per John 21. Once that number is made up probation for the SDA closes and anyone not striving for that character is excluded from salvation .Jesus holds back the winds of strife until the 144,000 are established . The winds of strife cause the Al - Aqsa mosque to be destroyed which is the catalyst for all versions of Islam to unite in a holy war against the " west" . Just as Clovis removed the Ostrogoths from Rome and then became the power supporting papal decrees ,,so America will counter the third woe with violence and use the pope as the corrector of heretics to justify the deaths . America will have a form of killing that can target anyone anywhere and the woe will fade as they realise " who can make war with him" . The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit of Rev 11v7 is the restablishing of the papacy as the corrector of heretics due to the circumstances of the third woe . All woes are perpetrated by the influence on humanity that came from the bottomless pit as the smoke of a great furnace ; in essence ,the papal wound is healed by the bottomless pit providing the circumstances . This is why E White prophesised that Daniel 11v31to35 would be repeated . This time round though the 144,000 with signs and wonders from Rev 18 will be doing the preaching of righteousness . Uriah Smiths understanding of 11 v 36 to 39 as France was correct .But that interpretation has a typological element to it ,in that it is inclusive of all governments that are of the people for the people seperate from bible influence ( 501c ) . By ignoring Smith and claiming v 36 to 39 referrs to the pope this understanding can not be concluded and we are unequiped to warn the world of the impending disaster .It is by that warning that we get a head start on papal influence that is promoted by counteracting the woe .
Dr. Vine’s jab at attorneys cheapened an otherwise insightful message. It was totally unnecessary in making his point.
I cannot agree with you on that one.sometimes points need to be made in order to wake folk up. So I will agree to disagree here.
You keep referring to the state of affairs in America……or is that just me. The country has turned against God and there is a violent price. Who would have thought it possible
God The same.
Yesterday
677 BC until a pepole again 457.BC sum 220 years.
Today. 318 AD Religious liberty
538 AD Sunday law
Sum 220 years
Future.
1798 Liberty
2018 Anuel Council SDA.
Sum 220 years than persecution.
The summary of Ellen G. Whites *"Great Controversy"* argument is thus concerning the Apostasy of the Apostolic Church from her book, in chapter 3.
1. The Apostle Paul and John warned that the Apostasy of the Church Christ instituted. And, that the apostasy of the Church was going to happen and was already happening in 53AD and by 90AD, the Apostle John was already commanding people to *"Come out the Church Christ instituted upon the Apostles, the prophets and Christ being the chief cornerstone.* Thus, the "HER" and Harlot of Revelation 18 to EGW and Adventism is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the *book of Revelation is begging all the Christians to leave the Church Christ died for and John, Paul and all the Apostles labored to bring into the "ONE Faith", ONE Body, the ONE Church to an end regardless of Christ's promise to never leave it or the gates of hell prevail over it. *
2. The falling away, was NOT those who left the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. *but THOSE WHO REMAINED WITH the Apostolic Church* Christ instituted was "falling away" . And, ONLY those who would LEAVE the Church (the use of Rev. 18:4 by the SDA) would be saved, while those who followed in obedience to the Church would be lost.
3. The falling away in her mind described in 2Thess. 2:4 *was caused by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church abandoning the enforcement of the Sabbath commandment upon the Gentiles.* and that every Christian must become Jewish first, before claiming to be Christian and the claim of Cephas to be Pope.
4. EGW and the SDA claim was that faith through Grace in Christ and the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Holy Spirit was and is not sufficient to keep a person from murdering or stealing..etc., thus the spirit of lawlessness. And, that ONLY by the LAW of 10 commandments could keep people from sinning, NOT by the Holy Spirit.
5. She also claimed that suddenly somewhere long before 325AD, the Catholic Church decided to have a Pope, who was the Vicar of Christ and no one in the entire known world protested. This was *"already occurring"* in 53AD when the Apostle Paul wrote 2Thessalonians 2 while at the same time the Apostle Paul as calling the Peter, "Cephas" meaning Rock. And, prior to that Christ named Him "Rock" from the moment Christ called him and so did every other Apostle who spoke the Aramaic language, as Christ and most of Judea at the time. Only those who DISOBEYED the Church could be saved in EGW's teaching.
6. She then claimed by the time of Constantine, the entire known world of Christianity had fallen away "to join forces with the Pope" and that was "The Great Falling Away" prophecied in 2Thess. 2:4 in 325AD. Yet, not one voice protested anywhere in the entire known world of Christianity.
7. For Ellen G. White, persecution and martyrdom of the Church was a good thing and the church living in peaceful times was deplorable. She would have much preferred that the torture of the Christians continued than have peace.
8. In the end, Ellen G. White and the Adventist church teaches the Papacy didn't begin until 538AD according to their 1260 day prophecy, but that conflicts directly with their own writings which say the Papacy was already ruling in 325AD, which is 217 years or more difference. Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: *"THE GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself “above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. ….
"No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. *The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that “mystery of lawlessness”* (2 Thessalonians 2:7, R.V.) which, *EVEN in Paul’s day, had begun its work.* Chapter 3 of Great Controversy. Yet, there is no record of any "Controversy" about a change from the Sabbath to Sunday in the records of Church history.
9. EGW's and the Adventist's point is that Christ ( *God himself in the flesh* ) could *NOT* and did not *"Point mankind to the true and Living God"* And, that only by Sabbath keeping could they come to know God, period.
10. Lastly, Ellen G. White had this to say in her Book, "Spiritual Gifts" .
What a beautiful line is this from Ellen G. White: " "No matter how powerful the evidence given of Jesus' being the Son of God, the Redeemer of the world; *they had murdered him* , and could not receive any evidence in his favor. Their only hope and consolation, like SATAN 's after his fall, was in trying to prevail against the Son of God. They (THE SABBATH KEEPERS) continued their rebellion by persecuting the disciples of Christ, and putting them to death. " *(Spiritual Gifts, 101)*
Marx was a JESUIT!
Smooth words but a disturbing mix of half history and applied Adventist pressure points. The glib dismissal of guns in this speech hides Vine's right wing prepper mentality that I saw firsthand in my iteration as editor of Liberty magazine-- when he and an accomplice sat in my office and pressured me to run an article on a Christian's right of self defence and use of violence. I ran it as an "Opinion" piece--an opinion at loggerheads with a founding Adventist principle of noncombatancy; established in the midst of a civil war. His ignorant invocation of incipient Marxism in the US belongs in the Macarthy era of paranoia, and further reveals its origin by his advancement of anti-vaccer extremism. SDAs long avoided this type of thing as the privy of Jehovah's Witnesses. Yes, every vaccine has side effects, but only a flat earther could fail to recognize that modern longevity is almost totally the result of the utilization of germ theory/handwashing, antibiotics and mass immunization. The real test of late, which we Adventists failed, was shutting down organization and churches during Covid as " non-essential" services. And foolish Adventist political partisans take note: the mandate was under both parties' administrations. A precedent has been set and the time of trouble is still ahead. But no matter, push ahead with double doses of sanctimony and ego; let's just ignore that the present lack is spiritual life.
An apparently brilliant man who destroys his message with his COVID nonsense.
it's too bad that adventist's cant preach a sermon without criticizing other churches..pitiful
My dear brothers and sisters, don't be deceived! The Pharisees in Jesus' time had the right Sabbath day but didn't know the God of the Sabbath! And so would you if you hold on to the non-biblical Trinity doctrine instead of worshipping the "only true God" as Jesus Himself puts it in John 17:3!
Amen.