@@bwebb90 According to this, it comes with logic pro x, so you can probably find it in there. www.reddit.com/r/Logic_Studio/comments/gic2r2/logic_pro_x_105_features_the_multitrack_project/
Wasn't Finneas like 17 or 18 when he produced this track? And I think they did it quite fast for Billie's dance project or something. Anyway, cool that it doesn't have to be all polished to become a hit.
he was 19 and this was actually a song that Finneas wrote for his band and himself but then he thought Billie would sound better in it. So they recorded for her voice and obviously used it for her dance class, but just for fun uploaded it onto SoundCloud. They didn't think though that all this would've happened.
@@rhymejpeg the one that they upload to soundcloud was the final version they just re-released it later as Billie's first single under a label but they didn't alter the track
@@LostinaMemory thank you, cant stop listening and watching... can you tell us what is the name of the software that finneas used to produce the songs? ty
This was such an amazing eye opener, I have been crying myself to sleep for years because I thought my 20-30 track DAW projects would never, ever, EVER be worthy of releasing. I used to hear tales of artists fitting in hundreds of tracks and that was what was necessary to make hit music, that plus all kinds of expensive hardware. This breakdown shattered all my beliefs and gave me hope that maybe one day, I too can strike gold, as long as I just keep at it! MUCH THANKS, keep doing what you do because it's great!!
I used to think the exact same thing. The first few songs I put out had a TON of tracks but the more music I make I realized more does not equal better! Sometimes less is more!;)
I can relate to this. In the beginning I was making 10-15 tracks - wich sounded bad. As I progressed through couple of years, i found myself having 60-120 tracks. Was starting to sound decent. Then I started to choose sounds wisely, and stacking things. solid recordings (do it right at the source, don't fix it in the mix sorta thing..) went back to the 10-15 track songs i made and "enhanced" my sounds. NIGHT and DAY! Thing is, my melodies were actually somewhat catchy, just needed the right sounds ;)
It really depends on how arranged and composed is the song you're working on. Sometimes, it's like a call the song make : it needs more details, more things that people will hear but not listen, and you add more tracks, sometimes 200 of it. And sometimes, like this song, you just need a few and the feeling is complete. The important thing it's to be sincere, and to trust yourself 👌😊
My hip hop/trap beats usually cap off around 11 to 17 tracks. And my more house stuff is about 25 to 40 tracks. I started out a few months ago but I still think those songs hold up. As lomg as you capture a vibe in your music, it has the potential to be really good, even if it only has like 5 tracks :)
The fact that he learnt how to use all of this on his own is mind-blowing. Do we even realise how crazy that is? They will have an amazing career, no doubts.
It’s really not that hard to use Logic Pro X it just takes some time and dedication. The song-writing however, that’s where this guy’s a creative genius!
Their parents are also involved in the entertainment world, I think their mom is a singer and has made some records before so I'm sure they had some guidance from her at a young age. I'm sure they're proud to see them take it and run this far.
11:40 haha I am a producer myself. I use this technique a lot. He added the low voice there to distract from the harsh cut they made on the vocals (when billie sang mind slightly out of tune) so the deep voice hides it. Basically, you add stuff to cover the imperfections that's how it is when you don't have a professional studio. So it is not random, just smart :)
@@shadowclonejutsu8500 she was actually 13 and dropped the mv when she was 14 turning 15 in 2016 she has said multiple times that she was 13 when recording the song
no ones probably ever gonna see this but, for any song, if you're curious to hear some backing vocals the easiest thing to do is listen to the song with an auxiliary cord. Get the cord where the audio jack is and very slightly pull the wire out but not where its out of the hole completely. If you get it right you'll be able to hear the background music and some vocals. I'm pretty sure people have done this already but I recently found out about it. but yeah i thought it was cool. anyways thanks for taking the time to read this if you ever do🥰
All you’re doing is playing the L and R at the same time, anything that is toward the centre of the mix is being removed by phase cancellation. You can do the same thing in logic, import two instances of the same piece of audio on separate tracks and invert the polarity of one and you will hear a cancellation.
Please please do more like this. People like me who are trying to learn this stuff from scratch don't know what we dont know and hence dont even know what to search for when you break down songs like this it really helps understand what's really going on. Thanks so much
I definitely will! It’s nearly impossible to get famous songs’ project files like this one, but I can definitely do videos like these using my own music!
Korean UA-camrs really need to learn from this video. This video is simply a one-take recording and cutting out some errors, no sound effects, no BGM, no flashy video transition effects, no subtitles, no intro jingle and computer graphics. This video is just pure and goes straight to the point which is a bunch of secret information. Viewers willingly pay their time to receive that precious information and we are happy.
Some things that jump out. 1. Billie is an excellent song writer and arranger. A huge part of the succes of the music is her, the production is def secondary, designed to stay out of the way 2. Her soft, stripped down style allows them to get away with really usable recordings in an untreated room. The louder the artist tends to sing or perform, the more room sound you get. 3. The production sounds pretty different from the final mix on the radio. I def feel like the mixing engineer layered the drums in particular, and did some work on the pads and stuff to make em more exciting which we don't hear in this session 4. There's no autotune on the session and she likely doesn't need much, HOWEVER the mixing engineer would be using melodyne to really tighten up any performance issues. 5. I also wouldn't put too much stock in any of the processing here for the same reason. The mix engineer would change a lot of this. 6. Using multiple compressors is a pretty common technique. It's prob made most famous by Michael Brower. I prob use 4-5 compressors on my vocals. 7. That said there's a lot of great stuff to learn here and very interesting to see it all stripped down. It's pretty expected ultimately but for a beginner it's great stuff
So just so everyone knows, in logic pro you go to "file>new from template>demo projects" and you can "get your hands on" the actual studio session of ocean eyes. So you can experiment with the track yourselves. Good video though
@@millie7304 That's weird, I most certainly never paid for anything else than the app itself (years ago), and I can access it. I can't exclude that they recently changed it though. Can you access the demo projects folder?
Thank you for this, I had no idea in was right in LPX. I just want to take a look and it also answered a question the present couldn't answer in the video where he was saying he didn't know why so many Reverb Busses were added. After checking out the project, the busses were clearly labelled in the Mixer. Each Reverb is modeling different spaces i,e. Small Room, Small Hall, Large Hall etc....
That is a phenomenal idea! I’m going to make another video addressing the comments including yours, I’m also curious on what take 1 would sound! Subscribe so you don’t miss it!
Im pretty sure he would have done it. But he was only able to see this file because he had Logic Pro X and Apple had her track future on that program so others with the paid application could see that song project. So that is actually the only one that we could currently see. And BTW Apple has to ask her for that project before posting it of-course. (:
you explain everything SO well, i appreciate how you break everything down so simply and define all the terminology you use, it's extremely useful for us regardless of what level we're at. so good!!
This is a perfect example of the back and forth struggle with control in music. Once upon a time it took millions ie; great gear, great rooms, best musicians and trained engineers to make a record. We can also slide “ who you know “ in that equation. When the four track came along people heavily invested in gear played it down. However outside those million dollar studios it was used to create great records. With computers and modern day technology people have been doing this for years with just one piece of out board gear even a primitive sound blaster card, emu stuff etc. Take note the people who invest heavily in tech for music will downplay the bedroom artist and try to tell you about standing waves etc and why you need a good vocal booth. However, lately there has been quite a few gear and tech to combat that issue. However on the flip side this technology has promoted smartphones as a good medium to listen music on. Also most young people are realizing they don’t have to be Barbara Streisand just gimmick it in software. If ever doing a live performance lip sync certain portions. If this is what young people want let them have it they are the future. The only sad part is that songs that create perfect singing and unnatural tones tend to not have long staying power or wind up with the sound of the ‘80s stigma. In the end who cares as long as it sells right. So what is my point? It is not gear but talent and ideas. Billie sounds very good in her natural voice better than many famous singers. There is no need to worry about perfect pitch and tone. She is not a piano tuned perfectly. Why are so many engineers obsessed with this being the litmus test? Sing the flipping song with good production techniques. I am still waiting to hear the person who can sing live for 3 minutes and maintain perfect pitch. I have seen so many artists who performed live, rocked the crowd, loved in their neck of the woods by people outside of friends and family. Only to leave the bedroom producer and get told they are too pitchy blah , blah , blah. We need to bring in this vocal coach, this other one and that other one. One year later still on the chorus of a song previously recorded that was gaining traction. We should let the young people buying these records be the experts
“she doesn’t use auto tune. She re records until she gets it” I hope Billy gets to read that , it’s awesome when an artist IDs the work that went into another artist’s work
Listening to this as a person who wants to make their own music start to finish makes my mind blown yet my dreams slightly shattered hahaha. And this is scratching the surface
I can't get enough of these kinds of videos. I just love the production process of artists - I find it truly fascinating and inspiring. It makes them seem more human to me - like, we're all kinda using the same gear, trying to make art. We all have out own process but with very different outcomes. Music is life!
I think both Billie and Fineas had a really good choir teacher. Apparently they spent a lot of time doing choir and I think it’s what makes Billies recordings to great. I also think they just go with what works and don’t limit themselves thinking what’s the right way to do things
You use individual reverbs on tracks to get different vibes and to thicken the stereo field. Then you put all tracks through a single bus reverb to weld all the tracks together as they all then get a touch of the same processing.
What an amazing pair of artists. I’m so thankful they shared so much of their process, in the form of tracks and in the recent documentary. And of course thank you for the guided tour! Can’t wait to see what they create in the coming years.
I gotta give it to phinneus as her producer, also the way she layers her chorus. literally goes to show that anyone can produce their own music that sounds pretty damn good on even GarageBand, and have it sound good even before it is mastered
As a begginer self-produced artist I LOVE the work Finneas has done on Billie's music. It's so unique aswel, even on the production side of things. It doesn't sound like a studio copy-pasted formula they do for most artists, even the production has personality, depth.
Dude this was the coolest thing I’ve seen in a long time. One of my fav songs and you explained everything so well as well as the theory. You’re awesome!
In one of those master producer videos with Finneas he mentioned that Billie had the backing playing really loud through her headphones which is why it bled. He told her it was bad for her hearing but she wanted to replicate singing live
I've certainly been able to take away a ton from this video. Can't wait to implement some of these models in my music. It's super dope you were able to get this haha. Much love for sharing this with us.
Cool did Billie and Finneas give permission to hand this out to everybody? That's surprising since it's their earliest work and not professional really.
comp means composite. its pieced together. typically they might record different variations of one part (e.g. verse). then they piece together what they like best of each part.
Hello. Reason to bus most channels to more reverb busses is to set the space for the whole track. When you reverb individual tracks its more about the instrument flavour and/or position in the mix. Good breakdown. Really like Finneas, so please do more of these if possible. Thank you :)
The best thing to learn here is that there are no standard approaches when you are creating. The part where you talk about how why there is a reverb bus of the vocal when it already has a reverb on actual track proves that there are no "best way to a use things " or needs to be done in a certain way as long as the final result is a great one.
I think the number of takes is also very remarkable. Some of the earlier takes aren't even that badly out of tune, but Billie knows she can do better so she does it 30 more times until it's *just right.* Also, bussing your effects to another track is a fairly common production technique. There are a lot of reasons for doing it but it COULD be that he did it here so that you hear the effect in the space between the vocal lines rather than the delay or the reverb stepping on the line. That's just a guess though.
Thank you so much for your kind comment and for subscribing! I have a bunch of videos coming in the next few weeks so hopefully I can keep bringing value and entertainment to you!
Incredible breakdown man! My favorite is how you pointed out the bleeding through the headphones. I would love to learn more about the double compression. I thought this was some perfect production it was just a lot of takes and good processing by someone who knew how to use their tools. Subscribed!
Thank you very much! I use plenty of double compression on my own projects, I made a playlist with other breakdowns I’ve done recently if you wanna check those out in my channel!
And this one is a pretty small session too compared to what I usually make! Songs projects can be simple or super intricate, you should check out my other breakdowns to get an idea of what producing is like!
I’m so happy to read that you learned a thing or two! I have a part 2 to this video if you wanna check it out and I’m going to start making Logic Pro X tutorials starting next week so be sure to subscribe!
I found the song in Logic Pro, but never thought to look at it. Your analysis and breakdown is so perfect. I learned a lot. Thanks for doing the video.
Loved the reverse technique Phinneas did on her vocals. This whole piece is haunting! Thanks for the amazing breakdown. I definitely took some golden nuggets from you!
Great video! Really enjoyed this. Just getting started in music production and dissecting tracks like this really helps to give different ideas, methods, and just better understand the process. Thank you!
What I learned from this video: Professional producers don't necessarily follow the most "recommended" practices. But then it's not important as long as you're actually producing the song.
never leave you master limiter at 0 you still clip got to be safe and make the output -0.2 db i do -0.3 db sometimes. to to remember its a plugin its not going to catch everything
Their work is incredible and I dig this video! Although the nitpicky part of me can’t help but point out the stereo bounce of the hook around 16:35 has different left and right channels not because of the delay, but because it’s a bounce of multiple vocal tracks panned left and right, hahaha 😅
ay man, keep your head up. We all start from somewhere man. Keep pushing and improving, I promise you, you will get nothing but satisfaction and improvement over time. Good luck man.
ay we do it for the love of the craft and improvement comes with time. Keep doin your thing man - we always need new creatives trying to make something beautiful
Check out more breakdowns like this one here! ua-cam.com/play/PLMq5s9nZQhYB_DIWDxd8bIPQ5Kk6phKqU.html
how do you meen mess in background of room it is lierary clean how i see
😂 I guess the camera wasn’t aimed at the mess 😂
Would you be able to share the logic project?
@@bwebb90 According to this, it comes with logic pro x, so you can probably find it in there. www.reddit.com/r/Logic_Studio/comments/gic2r2/logic_pro_x_105_features_the_multitrack_project/
how did you get the file?
This feels like reading someone else’s diary. It’s like a secret I wasn’t supposed to see. 😅 Their work is so inspiring!
Lol ye I feel the same!
Omg litrually feels like that!
no its free to see
lol exactly what I was thinking, but this video is awesome!
The nice about music is. It’s unique to it’s maker. You can look at my process etc but you can never sound like me.
This is beyond useful for music writers starting up, thank you so much for this!!
You’re welcome! I’m gonna be doing a Part 2 to this video this week and more tutorials if you’d like to stick around!:)
Lost in a Memory that would be so helpful thanks!
@@giveitamonth5720 producers more than writers
Definitely useful for writers and producers alike!
@@madsunmusic7810 do you know what app they used?
And she was 13..13!
Right!!? I remember when I was 13 I was wasting my life while Billie Eilish was making timeless hits!
Her bro is humble. People always forget he was part of the genius process
@@LostinaMemory I’m 16 and still wasting my life
@@itsproof2 I'm 26 and still wasting life
when i was 13 i had my first love, she make me hbhsgdghsghbhghgh
ohh she had me going crazy, but i was starstruck
billies voice is just wow.
She sounds beautiful
🎧Yes she is amazing. I love her voice. She inspired me to make this beat!!ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
Wasn't Finneas like 17 or 18 when he produced this track? And I think they did it quite fast for Billie's dance project or something. Anyway, cool that it doesn't have to be all polished to become a hit.
No, I think the Soundcloud version was the demo but when they released it officially, they finally polished it.
Finneas said they spent a week just on recording vocal tracks that would normally take a day, so I am assuming the official release was not rushed.
he was 19 and this was actually a song that Finneas wrote for his band and himself but then he thought Billie would sound better in it. So they recorded for her voice and obviously used it for her dance class, but just for fun uploaded it onto SoundCloud. They didn't think though that all this would've happened.
@@rhymejpeg the one that they upload to soundcloud was the final version they just re-released it later as Billie's first single under a label but they didn't alter the track
He was 18 and billie was 13. It took them about a week to get all the vocals because billie was very specific in how she wanted to sound
I feel like every artist need to release videos like this so we can get a higher appreciation of the production process
🎧 I feel the same way. We need more of this!! This inspired me to make this beat. I used her sample.!! ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
this video is actually so fun to watch! you are also super super professional!!
🎧This is so dope. I love her voice. It inspired me to make this beat!!!ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
Glad you liked it!!
Whatcha doing here kinryyy😂
@@LostinaMemory thank you, cant stop listening and watching... can you tell us what is the name of the software that finneas used to produce the songs? ty
wait- kinry idjdkdn
This was such an amazing eye opener, I have been crying myself to sleep for years because I thought my 20-30 track DAW projects would never, ever, EVER be worthy of releasing. I used to hear tales of artists fitting in hundreds of tracks and that was what was necessary to make hit music, that plus all kinds of expensive hardware. This breakdown shattered all my beliefs and gave me hope that maybe one day, I too can strike gold, as long as I just keep at it! MUCH THANKS, keep doing what you do because it's great!!
I used to think the exact same thing. The first few songs I put out had a TON of tracks but the more music I make I realized more does not equal better! Sometimes less is more!;)
I can relate to this. In the beginning I was making 10-15 tracks - wich sounded bad. As I progressed through couple of years, i found myself having 60-120 tracks. Was starting to sound decent. Then I started to choose sounds wisely, and stacking things. solid recordings (do it right at the source, don't fix it in the mix sorta thing..) went back to the 10-15 track songs i made and "enhanced" my sounds. NIGHT and DAY! Thing is, my melodies were actually somewhat catchy, just needed the right sounds ;)
It really depends on how arranged and composed is the song you're working on. Sometimes, it's like a call the song make : it needs more details, more things that people will hear but not listen, and you add more tracks, sometimes 200 of it. And sometimes, like this song, you just need a few and the feeling is complete. The important thing it's to be sincere, and to trust yourself 👌😊
My hip hop/trap beats usually cap off around 11 to 17 tracks. And my more house stuff is about 25 to 40 tracks. I started out a few months ago but I still think those songs hold up. As lomg as you capture a vibe in your music, it has the potential to be really good, even if it only has like 5 tracks :)
you will! i’m happy you were lead to this video, YOURE GONNA BE HUGE!!
The fact that he learnt how to use all of this on his own is mind-blowing. Do we even realise how crazy that is? They will have an amazing career, no doubts.
It’s really not that hard to use Logic Pro X it just takes some time and dedication. The song-writing however, that’s where this guy’s a creative genius!
🎧It’s crazy how talented they are. I love her voice. She inspired me to make this beat!!ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
@@LostinaMemory 100%
Most people learn to use software like this on youtube, as the guy above the said the prowess is in songwriting and creativity!
Their parents are also involved in the entertainment world, I think their mom is a singer and has made some records before so I'm sure they had some guidance from her at a young age. I'm sure they're proud to see them take it and run this far.
11:40 haha I am a producer myself. I use this technique a lot. He added the low voice there to distract from the harsh cut they made on the vocals (when billie sang mind slightly out of tune) so the deep voice hides it. Basically, you add stuff to cover the imperfections that's how it is when you don't have a professional studio. So it is not random, just smart :)
i wish you produce some of my staff)
This is why I read the comments, thankyou
@@madsunmusic7810 np :)
I was looking for this :)
I do that as well. I usually double my vocals and it helps make it sound better, fuller and yes it does hide imperfections as well!
19:51 dont mind me im just in love with how cute she sounded 💀💀
She was 13 at the time
@@yngvehannevig3471 i know lmao dw im 14, just in case yall think im a grown person or sumn cause thats creepy 💀💀
C8 no she was 14 bout to turn 15
@@shadowclonejutsu8500 she was actually 13 and dropped the mv when she was 14 turning 15 in 2016 she has said multiple times that she was 13 when recording the song
Simp.
This opened my mind so much to production wow
I’m happy it did! I got more videos like these on the way!
Thank you for doing this
hi shannon! :)
You’re very welcome random citizen!
18:37 aaaaa how cute 🥺⭐
There are a bunch of more outtakes in the vocal takes. In one of them she yells „stop hating on me“ at Finneas. Quite funny :D
That’s hilarious 😂
@@nomadine85 bout as hilarious as wet shit
it's all about the layers! combine them, till it's perfect!
@@TristanHands 😂😂😂
Which part?pls tell me!
no ones probably ever gonna see this but, for any song, if you're curious to hear some backing vocals the easiest thing to do is listen to the song with an auxiliary cord. Get the cord where the audio jack is and very slightly pull the wire out but not where its out of the hole completely. If you get it right you'll be able to hear the background music and some vocals. I'm pretty sure people have done this already but I recently found out about it. but yeah i thought it was cool. anyways thanks for taking the time to read this if you ever do🥰
I see you! I used to do that all the time on old phones that had aux connections, I thought I was the only one!!!
I thought I was the only one ahaha
All you’re doing is playing the L and R at the same time, anything that is toward the centre of the mix is being removed by phase cancellation. You can do the same thing in logic, import two instances of the same piece of audio on separate tracks and invert the polarity of one and you will hear a cancellation.
I used to do karaoke on that as a kid sometimes
I used to do that listening to Pure Heroine by Lorde back in 2013
When you realize how much work is in ONE song
Ikrrr... It's still blowing my mind
🎧 Crazy how talented she it!! I love her voice. She inspired me to make this beat!!ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
It's a lot of work but surprisingly it's not a huge session as compared to the way other producers work myself included!
Right
Surprisingly, this is much less stuff than goes on in other songs
Please please do more like this. People like me who are trying to learn this stuff from scratch don't know what we dont know and hence dont even know what to search for when you break down songs like this it really helps understand what's really going on. Thanks so much
I definitely will! It’s nearly impossible to get famous songs’ project files like this one, but I can definitely do videos like these using my own music!
Finneas: 36 tracks
Jacob Collier: You gotta pump those numbers. Those are rookie numbers.
😂
I looked for this comment as soon as I clicked on the video. 😂
🎧This is so dope. I love her voice. She inspired me to make this beat!! ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
Crazy you Said That I just Came Here From one Of his Bedroom Videos lol Like Literally This video was Under That video while I was Watching him lol
damn my macbooks gonna be dead
Korean UA-camrs really need to learn from this video. This video is simply a one-take recording and cutting out some errors, no sound effects, no BGM, no flashy video transition effects, no subtitles, no intro jingle and computer graphics. This video is just pure and goes straight to the point which is a bunch of secret information. Viewers willingly pay their time to receive that precious information and we are happy.
Sometimes flashy stuff isn’t needed:)
Some things that jump out.
1. Billie is an excellent song writer and arranger. A huge part of the succes of the music is her, the production is def secondary, designed to stay out of the way
2. Her soft, stripped down style allows them to get away with really usable recordings in an untreated room. The louder the artist tends to sing or perform, the more room sound you get.
3. The production sounds pretty different from the final mix on the radio. I def feel like the mixing engineer layered the drums in particular, and did some work on the pads and stuff to make em more exciting which we don't hear in this session
4. There's no autotune on the session and she likely doesn't need much, HOWEVER the mixing engineer would be using melodyne to really tighten up any performance issues.
5. I also wouldn't put too much stock in any of the processing here for the same reason. The mix engineer would change a lot of this.
6. Using multiple compressors is a pretty common technique. It's prob made most famous by Michael Brower. I prob use 4-5 compressors on my vocals.
7. That said there's a lot of great stuff to learn here and very interesting to see it all stripped down. It's pretty expected ultimately but for a beginner it's great stuff
idk it sounds the same as what's on her spotify, the radio fucks with artist's music all the time. I know she refuses to use any tuning.
This is soo inspiring. Really makes me feel like I could record something myself.
You CAN record something! I’m making more of these videos on how to produce if you wanna stick around and learn a thing or two!
Let's not forget that Finneas was only 17 when he produced this.
These breakdowns are honestly more helpful than most youtuber tutorials
I’d like to think so too! There’s plenty more on my channel, check those out!
I had no idea of the many meticulous details of producing songs I have a whole new appreciation for finneas
this break down made me like the song even more
Me too honestly
2:57 is the most beautiful sound ever
Right!? #VoiceGoals! 😉
So just so everyone knows, in logic pro you go to "file>new from template>demo projects" and you can "get your hands on" the actual studio session of ocean eyes. So you can experiment with the track yourselves. Good video though
You have to pay 😔
@@millie7304 That's weird, I most certainly never paid for anything else than the app itself (years ago), and I can access it. I can't exclude that they recently changed it though. Can you access the demo projects folder?
Can you access this through GarageBand MacBook Pro 2019? Or just Logic Pro?
@@sophiedarnell467 Unfortunately not I'm afraid, since 90% of the features used aren't available in GB
Thank you for this, I had no idea in was right in LPX. I just want to take a look and it also answered a question the present couldn't answer in the video where he was saying he didn't know why so many Reverb Busses were added. After checking out the project, the busses were clearly labelled in the Mixer. Each Reverb is modeling different spaces i,e. Small Room, Small Hall, Large Hall etc....
It’ll be cool if you could play all the take 1’s at the same time so we could hear how it would’ve sounded
That is a phenomenal idea! I’m going to make another video addressing the comments including yours, I’m also curious on what take 1 would sound! Subscribe so you don’t miss it!
🎧This is so dope. I love her voice. She inspired me to make this beat!!ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
you have no idea how much help you did to all the beginner musician out there. i cant actually find any word to thank you bro. absolute great job!!
I'm so happy I have access to this project file!!!! There's so much amazing production information hidden inside of it!!
Her vocals give me chills! The genius of those two combined will go down in music history no doubt
Bruh. I’m a visually learner trying to get into music production, and watching you just break down this awesome song is awesome. Thanks!
Glad you liked it! There’s more breakdowns in my channels and I’m going to film a new one tonight so you can learn a thing or two!
🎧 Yes this is dope. I love her voice. I used her sample to make this beat!!ua-cam.com/video/RwkvCh_rzhk/v-deo.html
Can you breakdown Bad Guy because there are a lot of interesting things in there and bury a friend to
Im pretty sure he would have done it. But he was only able to see this file because he had Logic Pro X and Apple had her track future on that program so others with the paid application could see that song project. So that is actually the only one that we could currently see. And BTW Apple has to ask her for that project before posting it of-course. (:
@@JosephRandomGameing oh really i didn't know thanks!
@@JosephRandomGameing What's "track future"?
@@SeanHyland she made a recent song called my future if u haven't heard it yet
@@staryelsha ua-cam.com/video/VSPuRXkUWoU/v-deo.html
Seriously, Bad Guy is a primitive track, it don't need to be breakdowned.
Her song ocean eyes is what got me back into music creation in college
You really analysed this track... Great job... Billie was 13 here damn and Finneas is a literal god... They're amazing and this song is just wow
They’re great songwriters, their approach is “less is more” and it’s very effective!
you explain everything SO well, i appreciate how you break everything down so simply and define all the terminology you use, it's extremely useful for us regardless of what level we're at. so good!!
Not bad for my first breakdown huh?
Thank you! I plan on making more of these so stay tuned!
This is a perfect example of the back and forth struggle with control in music. Once upon a time it took millions ie; great gear, great rooms, best musicians and trained engineers to make a record. We can also slide “ who you know “ in that equation. When the four track came along people heavily invested in gear played it down. However outside those million dollar studios it was used to create great records.
With computers and modern day technology people have been doing this for years with just one piece of out board gear even a primitive sound blaster card, emu stuff etc. Take note the people who invest heavily in tech for music will downplay the bedroom artist and try to tell you about standing waves etc and why you need a good vocal booth. However, lately there has been quite a few gear and tech to combat that issue.
However on the flip side this technology has promoted smartphones as a good medium to listen music on. Also most young people are realizing they don’t have to be Barbara Streisand just gimmick it in software. If ever doing a live performance lip sync certain portions.
If this is what young people want let them have it they are the future. The only sad part is that songs that create perfect singing and unnatural tones tend to not have long staying power or wind up with the sound of the ‘80s stigma. In the end who cares as long as it sells right.
So what is my point? It is not gear but talent and ideas. Billie sounds very good in her natural voice better than many famous singers. There is no need to worry about perfect pitch and tone. She is not a piano tuned perfectly. Why are so many engineers obsessed with this being the litmus test? Sing the flipping song with good production techniques.
I am still waiting to hear the person who can sing live for 3 minutes and maintain perfect pitch. I have seen so many artists who performed live, rocked the crowd, loved in their neck of the woods by people outside of friends and family. Only to leave the bedroom producer and get told they are too pitchy blah , blah , blah. We need to bring in this vocal coach, this other one and that other one. One year later still on the chorus of a song previously recorded that was gaining traction.
We should let the young people buying these records be the experts
“she doesn’t use auto tune. She re records until she gets it”
I hope Billy gets to read that , it’s awesome when an artist IDs the work that went into another artist’s work
Listening to this as a person who wants to make their own music start to finish makes my mind blown yet my dreams slightly shattered hahaha. And this is scratching the surface
Artists should release their files like this really shows how much work goes into making a track.
I wish they would! I'm going to start releasing my own studio templates and projects too!
I can't get enough of these kinds of videos. I just love the production process of artists - I find it truly fascinating and inspiring. It makes them seem more human to me - like, we're all kinda using the same gear, trying to make art. We all have out own process but with very different outcomes. Music is life!
I'm just over here admiring how the vocals were recorded, damn billie is creative
I love the percussion in this song. It's so textured and atmospheric.
omg this video is pure gold! Thank you so much for existing 🥺❤️
Thank you for your super nice comment! I just uploaded a part 2 to this video in case you’re interested!
I loved how you explained EQ and compression, rlly clear straightforward easy to understand!
Finneas is a genius producer. Awesome job ! Of course Billie Eilish has an AMAZING voice
I think both Billie and Fineas had a really good choir teacher. Apparently they spent a lot of time doing choir and I think it’s what makes Billies recordings to great. I also think they just go with what works and don’t limit themselves thinking what’s the right way to do things
Their work ethic is admirable!
You use individual reverbs on tracks to get different vibes and to thicken the stereo field. Then you put all tracks through a single bus reverb to weld all the tracks together as they all then get a touch of the same processing.
Thank you 🙏🏽
Cool! Do you use a different type of reverb/different settings on each track?
What an amazing pair of artists. I’m so thankful they shared so much of their process, in the form of tracks and in the recent documentary. And of course thank you for the guided tour! Can’t wait to see what they create in the coming years.
can you imagine getting the ACTUAL FILES from a popular song? That is insane and awesome.
What a video, man! Bring more Billie Eilish songs heree, i'd loveee to see that!
Great content!
I gotta give it to phinneus as her producer, also the way she layers her chorus. literally goes to show that anyone can produce their own music that sounds pretty damn good on even GarageBand, and have it sound good even before it is mastered
I could literally cry watching and listening to this! thank you
Of course I’m glad you enjoyed it.
The coolest thing about this is that everything is done with Logic vanilla plugins. Wow. Im literally blown away that this is possible.
The thing about the stock plugins is that they’re all extremely powerful, people just don’t think that because they come with logic.
Finneas and Billie are so dope, man. If I had parents who’d give names like Finneas and Billie I’d probably have that kinda soul too 😂
more session breakdowns please!!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
You got it! Today I’ma film a part 2 on this one and already working on finding more session files for more videos for this month!
this is fucking amazing just goes to show how talented Billie and Finneas are she was 13 omll
As a begginer self-produced artist I LOVE the work Finneas has done on Billie's music. It's so unique aswel, even on the production side of things. It doesn't sound like a studio copy-pasted formula they do for most artists, even the production has personality, depth.
15:28 ghostly vocals
17:28 adlib
18:38 ❤
Dude this was the coolest thing I’ve seen in a long time. One of my fav songs and you explained everything so well as well as the theory. You’re awesome!
Glad you like it! There’s plenty more breakdowns on my channel if you wanna check those out!
Really cool breakdown brother!
In one of those master producer videos with Finneas he mentioned that Billie had the backing playing really loud through her headphones which is why it bled. He told her it was bad for her hearing but she wanted to replicate singing live
I've certainly been able to take away a ton from this video. Can't wait to implement some of these models in my music. It's super dope you were able to get this haha. Much love for sharing this with us.
It feels amazing when you break down someone's music project.
You got your hands on it because it comes with every logic 10.5 update. Go to file>new from template>demo projects, and it's there.
That is correct!
Oh really ??
Cool did Billie and Finneas give permission to hand this out to everybody? That's surprising since it's their earliest work and not professional really.
comp means composite. its pieced together. typically they might record different variations of one part (e.g. verse). then they piece together what they like best of each part.
Hello.
Reason to bus most channels to more reverb busses is to set the space for the whole track. When you reverb individual tracks its more about the instrument flavour and/or position in the mix.
Good breakdown. Really like Finneas, so please do more of these if possible. Thank you :)
True that
This is one of the most helpful Logic videos I've ever watched! So much gold. Thankyou!
You’re welcome! I’ll be making more of these in the next few weeks!
Omg, this made me cry. God I bet there was so much patients put into this song
Patience*
@@DangerINK thanks
@@DangerINK And a really good doctor!
The best thing to learn here is that there are no standard approaches when you are creating. The part where you talk about how why there is a reverb bus of the vocal when it already has a reverb on actual track proves that there are no "best way to a use things " or needs to be done in a certain way as long as the final result is a great one.
I think the number of takes is also very remarkable. Some of the earlier takes aren't even that badly out of tune, but Billie knows she can do better so she does it 30 more times until it's *just right.* Also, bussing your effects to another track is a fairly common production technique. There are a lot of reasons for doing it but it COULD be that he did it here so that you hear the effect in the space between the vocal lines rather than the delay or the reverb stepping on the line. That's just a guess though.
First how does this not have more views?!!! Second I subbed because I saw u were at 899 haha
Thank you so much for your kind comment and for subscribing! I have a bunch of videos coming in the next few weeks so hopefully I can keep bringing value and entertainment to you!
Best 28mins! So much have learned! Thanks!
Just so you know they didn’t use any auto tune. They just did a bunch of takes and took the best one.
Much much respect to Billie and Finneas
god I love this. I wish every artist had something like this.
Incredible breakdown man! My favorite is how you pointed out the bleeding through the headphones. I would love to learn more about the double compression. I thought this was some perfect production it was just a lot of takes and good processing by someone who knew how to use their tools. Subscribed!
Thank you very much! I use plenty of double compression on my own projects, I made a playlist with other breakdowns I’ve done recently if you wanna check those out in my channel!
“ok so there’s that, BUT ALSO-“ so much go into songs holy moly
And this one is a pretty small session too compared to what I usually make!
Songs projects can be simple or super intricate, you should check out my other breakdowns to get an idea of what producing is like!
Thank you so much for this I learned so much I am new to Logic!
I’m so happy to read that you learned a thing or two! I have a part 2 to this video if you wanna check it out and I’m going to start making Logic Pro X tutorials starting next week so be sure to subscribe!
This is so brilliant. Stock plugins only and her voice. Just tons of talent.
And drinking lots of orange juice!
I found the song in Logic Pro, but never thought to look at it. Your analysis and breakdown is so perfect. I learned a lot. Thanks for doing the video.
Of course! There’s plenty more breakdowns in my channel, check them out!
This is really top notch content! I am very grateful for the internet because it allow us to watch precisely this kind of thing.
Thank you very much! I got more breakdowns on my channel just like this one, check em out!
It’s crazy her vocal preset is structured just like mine, I’m just beginning but I’m learning a lot 🤟🏽
This is the best breakdown video I’ve ever seen
Thank you!
This is proof that an ES1 pad and alchemy sub bass can make it onto commercial radio
If it sounds good, then it is good
Alchemy is incredible, extremely underrated!
Loved the reverse technique Phinneas did on her vocals. This whole piece is haunting! Thanks for the amazing breakdown. I definitely took some golden nuggets from you!
Great video! Really enjoyed this. Just getting started in music production and dissecting tracks like this really helps to give different ideas, methods, and just better understand the process. Thank you!
You’re very welcome, glad it was helpful!
Bruh u did a great job breaking these tracks down, I appreciate it man!
Thank you! I’m doing more of these vids look out for those!
What I learned from this video: Professional producers don't necessarily follow the most "recommended" practices. But then it's not important as long as you're actually producing the song.
Yup I’d say there’s no right or wrong way to produce as long as it sounds great!
Amazing breakdown please keep doing more. I love this kind of stuff giving us insight to the successful industry tricks.
Thank you! I have a whole playlist of a few breakdowns I’ve done in my channel and I just finished filming a new one!
ah man can't stop this video. It's so interesting. I subbed
I don’t know why UA-cam recommended this but I love it. Great video.
It recommended it cause it’s awesome! Thank you for checking it out, there’s a ton more awesome vids in my channel 😉
15:37 holy shit, this sounds so heavenly
EDIT: ITS REVERSED wow
You have a good understanding on production. You helped me out hugely- putting words and understanding to processes. Thank you!! 🙏 🙌
never leave you master limiter at 0 you still clip got to be safe and make the output -0.2 db i do -0.3 db sometimes. to to remember its a plugin its not going to catch everything
This is VERY important advice!!
An amazing voice! You can hear it even better here when broken down!
Right? I found so many other great takes in the files after filming this video!
Their work is incredible and I dig this video! Although the nitpicky part of me can’t help but point out the stereo bounce of the hook around 16:35 has different left and right channels not because of the delay, but because it’s a bounce of multiple vocal tracks panned left and right, hahaha 😅
Bro, Thankyou very much!
I was curious when the first time i saw this project on apple store.
it made me cry, i'm way too far of being that pro.
Omg same
ay man, keep your head up. We all start from somewhere man. Keep pushing and improving, I promise you, you will get nothing but satisfaction and improvement over time. Good luck man.
ay we do it for the love of the craft and improvement comes with time. Keep doin your thing man - we always need new creatives trying to make something beautiful
lmao me too
this video basically answered all the questions i had about recording and mixing vocals. huge massive thanks for the upload man