Warzone has a Pay to Win Problem… and here’s proof

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  • @michaelscholer1
    @michaelscholer1 Рік тому +388

    I believe the "buying a pack and playing with lower ranks" thing has been in since bo3/4 and the software program that does this has been found in Activision's paton list a couple years later.
    The full story: a few years ago people found a program in CoD (that has a paton) that basically when you buy a cosmetic it puts you in lobbies that are full of people without the pack to use you as a walking billboard for that pack.
    This in turn put you in lower skilled lobbies because the basic/casual players don't buy every single pack where as all the streamers and youtubers would buy almost all packs to use in videos (and possibly as a tax write off), so they become walking billboards and stomp on the weaker players just because Activision wants to sell more packs.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +51

      I’ve seen info on the patent floating around, I probably should’ve covered it but there’s technically nothing connecting it with COD directly

    • @detroitshinobi4995
      @detroitshinobi4995 Рік тому +11

      ​@@theonlyochoyes it is other channels like Blame Truth. And merc talked about it in detail.

    • @кяуртіс
      @кяуртіс Рік тому +5

      TF is a paton?

    • @Vichion
      @Vichion Рік тому +23

      ​@aStranger_ he means patent. The dude probably just spells it phonetically cause he has never seen the actual spelling.

    • @michaelscholer1
      @michaelscholer1 Рік тому +6

      @@Vichion ya that's what happened its been years since I've seen it spelled out and just as long since someone's even used the word. Also I didn't feel like opening youtube and google at the same time on my phone at the moment.

  • @minibashtcp434
    @minibashtcp434 Рік тому +88

    For the bot lobbies thing, as far as I know that's referencing something majorly introduced in Cold War called "Monetized Matchmaking", the idea behind it is to put people who pay for stuff in bad lobbies so that the bad players will be more influenced to buying the stuff the "good" players are using.
    For reticles you missed the one Holotherm optic that changes the colors of the thermal to have infinitely better target identification, changing from orange and yellow to white and red.

    • @CrackConsumer69
      @CrackConsumer69 Рік тому +4

      I don’t think it was out when he made the video

    • @minibashtcp434
      @minibashtcp434 Рік тому +3

      @@CrackConsumer69 You're probably right

    • @vKross
      @vKross Рік тому

      it had been out when this was made, even before MW2 launched actually, it just gained traction again as everyone was milking it, as a lot of fans got mad and wanted to watch things that are against Call of Duty.@@minibashtcp434

    • @CODA96
      @CODA96 Рік тому

      @@minibashtcp434 Its only a patent Activision has bought. We dont really have proof, but i had the same bot lobbies after buying the rambo skin for WZ1 back then for 2-3 rounds. Thing is, WZ really had pay2win even in 1. You could buy a Mac-10 Blueprint early that was alot stronger than the normal Mac-10.

    • @BethesdaModder
      @BethesdaModder Рік тому

      I don't really play alot but I did 2 of the Blackcell season passes and some of the weapon blueprints from them (i.e. Cronen Squall) seemed to be giving a significant advantage compared to their regular versions after I changed a few things

  • @TheWardog6650
    @TheWardog6650 Рік тому +109

    For operators, the Black Noir skin is easily the most overpowered operator in the game.
    Water, Semi-Dark corners, you name it, you cant see this MF damn near at all.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +8

      Crazy difficult to see, but hey they made hella money

    • @sprayer97
      @sprayer97 Рік тому +9

      luckily they added the tree skin by now which makes the black noir skin seem like a totally balanced choice ... yikes

    • @unimagin2ble
      @unimagin2ble Рік тому

      the gaia skin is a pain in the ass to see when they're proning in corners aswell @@sprayer97

    • @Mad-Man57
      @Mad-Man57 Рік тому

      Than why is it every black noir operator I fight I kill and spot him first me I only want the black noir skin just for his finisher.

    • @sprayer97
      @sprayer97 Рік тому +2

      @@Mad-Man57 thats called selective perception and shows you are not in touch with your own mind

  • @aleksandergjengst782
    @aleksandergjengst782 Рік тому +11

    I always get a coupple of easy lobbies after buying a new skin..EVERY TIME.

  • @DrExotic86
    @DrExotic86 Рік тому +63

    I think this is all true. I think the regular player is punished in sweaty lobbies for not spend money in the game.
    Hope all this change in some way, but probably they are making millions selling dark skins in every season. :(
    BTW thanks for the video. Is very good.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +5

      Thanks for the feedback man, they definitely make millions off these bundles. It’s wild

    • @Marlboro-lights1
      @Marlboro-lights1 Рік тому

      But how? The people willing to spend money are the ones who are play it the most and therefore should be better. Doesn’t make sense.

    • @T420-s3y
      @T420-s3y Рік тому

      ​@FartMcguire- if you look at the stats thats actually not true. Most of the money they make are from people who log on only once or twice a week or a few times a month.

  • @gamrknight8060
    @gamrknight8060 Рік тому +11

    For the first portion of the video, Activision has a patent (a few years old but relevant none the less) that would match players who bought DLC and used DLC weapons with players who didn't buy the DLC, in a way to try and get the target to purchase the DLC to get the weapon. It's very likely this system is still in place.

  • @DoenerHans
    @DoenerHans Рік тому +2

    "For example, microtransaction engine 128 may match a more expert/marquee or otherwise influential player (e.g., clan leader) with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases. A junior player may wish to emulate a marquee player by obtaining weapons or other items used by the marquee player. Other types of pairings and/or other groupings of players may be used as well."
    "The microtransaction engine may analyze various items used by marquee players and, if the items are being promoted for sale, match the marquee player with another player (e.g., a junior player) that does not use or own the items. Similarly, the microtransaction engine may identify items to be promoted, identify marquee players that use those items, and match the marquee players with other players who do not use those items. In this manner, the microtransaction engine may leverage the matchmaking abilities described herein to influence purchase decisions for game-related purchases." - Activision patent on SBMM.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      Interesting. Definitely worth including, I should’ve at least mentioned the patent.
      But unfortunately Activision owns so many franchises it’s impossible to tie it directly to COD. Do I personally believe it affects Warzone? For sure. It’s just near impossible to prove definitively

    • @DoenerHans
      @DoenerHans Рік тому +1

      @@theonlyocho oh for sure. But I just don't want to give Activision any space. :)

  • @bartandqoah
    @bartandqoah Рік тому +6

    Don’t forget that if you buy the dark ritual three pack, it changes your hollow therm sight to red instead of orange, which gives your enemies a better advantage of seeing players in smoke and other players

  • @chriswardell251
    @chriswardell251 Рік тому +416

    Here’s some OG advice……… Just.Get.Good. Simple as that.👌

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +195

      I’m fairly decent to above average. But the majority of players are super casual and P2W stuff affects them a lot

    • @DontTagMeEITHER
      @DontTagMeEITHER Рік тому +171

      hmmm man I love getting killed by a guy in a dark corner with a completely black skin

    • @lIlIZ3ROlIlI
      @lIlIZ3ROlIlI Рік тому

      @chriswardell251 😂😂😂 1v1 me kid

    • @martyboiiiii
      @martyboiiiii Рік тому +5

      I agree. Been running 2.0+ on resurgence

    • @robsfades2149
      @robsfades2149 Рік тому +12

      I agree I just play it til I don’t get mad 🤣 idk anything of all that I know is this : you see the fucker you shoot the fucker and win simple

  • @BAMFWrangler
    @BAMFWrangler Рік тому +18

    Don’t forget the operator that has a dog that growls where enemies see you. Giving you a free high alert

    • @jidma
      @jidma Рік тому +1

      only when you already have high alert equipped

    • @jeremyrennerapp
      @jeremyrennerapp Рік тому +2

      lmao first of all it’s not the operator, it’s if your finishing move is the dog. and it’s only if you have high alert 😂😂 do you people do any thinking before you say things ?

  • @gfckid32
    @gfckid32 Рік тому +9

    Well said I’ve been playing warzone for about a year and a half. If someone has a bundled weapon and sucks that alone is enough to give them an advantage. Playing with str8 base weapons on warzone will leave you somewhat limited.

    • @dantepaz5028
      @dantepaz5028 Рік тому

      The only thing i think is a bundled weapon advantage is the dark rituals 3 cronen squall that it's sights are better to see ppl, but it's the only thing I'd say, as having faster your load out weapons won't make you better at playing, maybe If you're really good with it it'll make you more consistent with it, but nothing more, as AFAIK all the bundled weapons attachments can be obtained by just playing

  • @correct_lee
    @correct_lee Рік тому +7

    Removing the reticle option they had in 2019 was just so evil. That was one of my favorite features 😢

  • @gam3rx382
    @gam3rx382 Рік тому +78

    Your ping rate matters too if your ping is higher than the ping of the the enemy his chances of seeing you first and shooting will be quicker than you reacting

    • @madm1n1
      @madm1n1 Рік тому

      Seen this a few times already too

    • @hongkongboyfriend1051
      @hongkongboyfriend1051 Рік тому +17

      this is true across all online games though, meaning all online games are pay to win when youre talking about latency.

    • @KastoeKrab
      @KastoeKrab Рік тому +2

      How is internet connection pay to win?

    • @ronaldbenz_
      @ronaldbenz_ Рік тому +3

      That's not a cod only problem.

    • @pingaspearce9403
      @pingaspearce9403 Рік тому +1

      ​@@KastoeKrabbecause better internet requires more money
      Meaning pay to win

  • @danfu6280
    @danfu6280 Рік тому +1

    0:05 "One might have some sort of unfair advantage"...
    You are talking about gamepads right? RIGHT?

  • @damommyy
    @damommyy Рік тому +32

    You just keep leveling up bro. I seriously can’t get over these videos they are better each time 🤯 also this is really interesting & never realized this

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +3

      Always appreciate the gas, comments like this fr keep me going. Taking my circle to the top 🤝

    • @pioter-ji1bo
      @pioter-ji1bo Рік тому

      Paton? 😂You meant patent?

  • @mrtookursoul602
    @mrtookursoul602 Рік тому +8

    the 1st slot you can get it down to 30 mins with doing the missions

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Wasn’t aware of that, good to know!

    • @Kenny-hy5pj
      @Kenny-hy5pj Рік тому

      So?
      Is it less than 15min cool down ?
      Can we get 15min cool down without paying ?
      There is only 1 weapon just by doing mission
      Only one
      but the gun is truely trash

    • @mrtookursoul602
      @mrtookursoul602 Рік тому

      @@Kenny-hy5pj with your 1st insured slot by doing the upgrades missions you can get the cooldown to 30min the 2nd insured slot you can get to an hour and the 3rd to 1 and a half hours if you complete the upgrade missions or tasks. And yes they give 1 operator with the DMZ effect that has a medium backpack and 1 gun with the 15 min cooldown which is the Sakin LMG. If you want more DMZ effectv weapons and operators you gotta spend some money or wait till they add more DMZ ops and items for doing missions. Spend 60$ get a few operators and the gun pack they have for DMZ or do your upgrade missions! Just sayin!

  • @stevendesmond2685
    @stevendesmond2685 Рік тому +1

    The new Halloween groot skin is unfair. It's see through and a smaller body.

  • @truebacon133
    @truebacon133 Рік тому +8

    There was also the ghillie skins that could be used to hide in any grass area. Dunno what it's like in any of the other warzone 2 maps besides 1st 1 but on that 1 you could hide with them on most of the map

  • @faei1897
    @faei1897 Рік тому +1

    Masked Soap anyone?
    Yes I preordered like a slut.

  • @gel87Kjetil
    @gel87Kjetil Рік тому +5

    Good video, but you forgot one important aspect. Eomm. Aka buff and nerfs of operators. Such as, but not limited to:
    Damage
    Hp
    Hitmarker
    Aim assist
    Recoil
    Flinch
    Aiming sway
    Stun and flash lenght time and general effectivness.
    Enemy audio
    Changing path of throwing knives
    Worst case scenario of damage reduce/hp buff is when:
    - 800 damage dealth to enemies and you dont even break his 2 plates.
    - 2 x knife hits on enemy that just revived and should be at 5% hp.
    Worst case of hitregs missing:
    - exsplosive sniper bullet explode in enemy head instead of travelling past him, there is blood coming from his face and you get 0 hitmarkers.
    - you beam a guy between shoulder blades from 2m from behind with low recoil gun, but ur first 10 bullets does not get hitmarker.
    Worst case of stun not working:
    - Enemy get hit by stun, no perk symbol. But he can move and turn in full speed instant.
    - stun landing perfect in enemies feets on flat ground, you are behind a riot shield 20m away and you get stunned and not him.
    Examples of throwing knives changing path:
    - throwing knife goes into enemy head, while inside enemy head it suddenly exit hid skull on the top and goes straight into the air.
    - throwing knife bounce of enemy head and into his toe and gives you hitmarker.
    - throwing knives litterally climbs up enemy shoulder and fall down behind it.
    - throwing knife goes straight towards enemy but changes path upwards to avoid hitting him.
    Etc etc, this shit is happening every single game unless you buy battle pass and other store items. First time I bought blackcell battle pass i had 3 days where everything worked perfectly. I got new personal kill record 3 times even though I was rusty. After that it was followed by 1 week of intense skillbased nerfs. I would loose every engagement unless I used a sniper. I would often start by putting 20 bullets in enemy from behind close up, and he would turn around and wiff 3 shots into my knee and i would die. Every single engagement.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      I didn’t have any personal experiences/haven’t heard of anyone having these issues with specific operators before but that’s really interesting.
      I have no doubt there’s a lot of wonky instances of hit reg, equipment not working, etc in the game but I’ve always heard it attributed to skill based hit reg (higher skill = bullets do less). But it would be very interesting to see if paying for items affects this whatsoever

    • @gel87Kjetil
      @gel87Kjetil Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho yes its kinda triggered by both skillgaps, and moneytisation. The reason is anyway to make People buy in the store. By focusing on letting those who have little time to play and level up guns and cammo theirselves to have a good game. Cause those are more likely to buy a wepon instead of leveling it manually. Because they are usually well settled and means to do so.
      Im a 36 year old dad myself, playing on a 75inch tv from the sofa on a controller my kid chewed off the grip part of the joystick. Anyway, I played cod since Black ops 1, I quickly feel when things are off. Ps5 easely give me the albility to save such moments, put them in slow motion and see excactly what happens. And so I do. And I see a huge difference between buying the Black cell, and not spending a dime on battle pass. But I know that the joy of not getting nerfed is just for a few days anyway, and there is nothing of interest in this battle pass :å

    • @amade_8919
      @amade_8919 Рік тому +1

      That's the one of the reason why I play sniper most of the times.

    • @gel87Kjetil
      @gel87Kjetil Рік тому +1

      @@amade_8919 i only play sniper myself. But did so since Black ops 1... xD actually since unreal and quake times xD

    • @amade_8919
      @amade_8919 Рік тому

      @@gel87Kjetil I used to play sniper in Counter strike 1.3, 1.6 :p Of course railgun in Quake III Arena, but somehow I didn't play sniper in Call of duty until MW2 2022. I really regret that 'cause it gives much more satisfaction - especially when you learn how to quickscope and drag shot.

  • @cringeproductions7081
    @cringeproductions7081 Рік тому +2

    For reticle look at the Cronen squall deaths door blueprint, they made the original thermal from different shades of orange into white with red outlines so it is so fricking easy to see people with it

  • @solemnace
    @solemnace Рік тому +1

    Vondel is such a gross little rat map. I won't even touch that garbage

  • @Dark.Syndicate
    @Dark.Syndicate Рік тому +3

    Thank you for talking about this problem. it's plaguing dmz too due to the pay-2-win bundles.

  • @petejones6827
    @petejones6827 Рік тому +6

    some blueprints ARE payto win as they come with ammo types you cannot put on the regular version like 300 blackout armor piercing that has almost full damage bar filled FOR A AR

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      That’s true, I didn’t even think about the ammo types. There’s so many things to consider

    • @nomicnevermic
      @nomicnevermic Рік тому +1

      You can actually unlock .300BLK AP rounds by levelling up weapons. I forgot what it is but I know you can because I have them and I haven't bought a bundle for it. Still, don't trust the stat bars on the game, they don't show anything.

    • @petejones6827
      @petejones6827 Рік тому

      @@nomicnevermic i bought the iso hemlock fire gun it has 300 blackout arp ammo i have that gun and all its attachments unlocked and thre is NO 300 blackout armor piercing and the stat bars are how you tune you dont use the graph in the center you look on the right to the stat bars and tune that way.

    • @mrtookursoul602
      @mrtookursoul602 Рік тому +3

      @@petejones6827 Here's how to unlock the .300 BLK Armor Piercing attachments in COD Modern Warfare 2 and COD Warzone 2: Get the Chimera to Level 4. Boom bam!

    • @vKross
      @vKross Рік тому

      You are completely wrong and misunderstanding this.
      1. You can get them by playing as stated below.
      2. He never said that's how you tune, he said that you can't trust the stat bars, because you simply can't.
      3. maybe your issue is that, your comprehension is ass, and you can't listen/think before forming a opinion, try to do that before hating on things when the answer lies right in front of you.@@petejones6827

  • @brysonpradia2463
    @brysonpradia2463 Рік тому +1

    From the future here. They made a skin that is see through and it’s invisible on vondel

  • @erka_zak-fr8797
    @erka_zak-fr8797 Рік тому +4

    for the PAY TO WIN operators that you don’t see in dark just turn off ambiant occlusion and ur game brightness a bit and it’s gonna be so much easy

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      That’s true, helps a lot but Vondel still has some crazy shadows

  • @Anonymys43
    @Anonymys43 Рік тому +27

    I'm surprised you didnt mentioned the HoloTherm you get from one of the bundles
    It has a red color for the thermal sight instead of the usual orange
    And for some wild reason the red HoloTherm actually helps you see enemies way better thru smoke compared to the normal one which I main
    When I saw that for the first time I started punching the air
    I literally said "nah thats DEF pay2win no matter what anyone says!"
    I was mad

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +7

      Yeah it’s 100% pay to win, came out RIGHT after I made this video (just posted a Short about it). Crazy how these things work

    • @Anonymys43
      @Anonymys43 Рік тому +6

      @@theonlyocho it's frustrating cause I actually want it but I'm not the type to spend more money than I have to on a game
      This is why I stopped caring about Destiny 2 since that game is even worse with microtransactions

    • @QuarterPunk
      @QuarterPunk Рік тому

      what's the bundle called

    • @Jester4460
      @Jester4460 Рік тому +1

      theres better sights and it doesnt give you a huge advantage compared to others
      nor did they even itend for it to be that why
      they would advertise it otherwise

    • @APinTheAK
      @APinTheAK Рік тому

      @@Jester4460how do you know. Quit strokin

  • @ExorFS
    @ExorFS Рік тому +4

    It definitely does. I said this game was turning pay to win, when they released a pack on the store with the sniper scope that automatically does the bullet adjustment, its really op and it wasn't til later they made it where you can unlock it, i believe.

  • @delimiter2886
    @delimiter2886 Рік тому +2

    I'd say the pattents that they have for "Buy stuff = get ez games where people didnt buy stuff" is enough evedence to say this is the defintion of pay to win, right after a free W

  • @Trauma-X
    @Trauma-X Рік тому +8

    I saw it a while ago with the AR iso fury blueprint.. blueprint iso had more damage than the highest damage selfbuilt iso... I said the same thing from the beginning

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Dang I didn’t know it had more damage

    • @Holytrinitybelievers
      @Holytrinitybelievers Рік тому +1

      And you got the npcs in the other comments it’s saying it’s not pay to win 😂😂

    • @Dark.Syndicate
      @Dark.Syndicate Рік тому

      they r idiots. just look at the cash grab dmz has become.@@Holytrinitybelievers

    • @vKross
      @vKross Рік тому

      I don't think it did more damage, but there were a couple cases where the "Pro Tuned" Weapons, like TimTheTatman's, had stats not achieveable by tuning them yourself.@@theonlyocho

  • @martinszymanski2607
    @martinszymanski2607 8 місяців тому

    i was a DMZ grinder when it came out. early DMZ is still my favourite extraction shooter; the core gameplay loop was perfect.
    the mode launched in """beta""" with a bunch of FOMO cosmetics to unlock, a million bugs and lacking things like a reconnect button when one of the aforementioned bugs inevitably booted you from your lobby. it was so unfinished that i couldn't get any of my friends to play it with me, so i ran it solo. i racked up hundreds of hours over the first season or two, pulling all-nighters and playing for 12 hours straight whenever i could.
    the devs decided to wipe everyone's progress; i thought that i'll keep playing if they're only doing it because DMZ was in beta but i'll quit if they ever do it again. then they proceeded to fix all the helpful bugs in DMZ (some high-tier quests needed 100 of a rare item which you could dupe, for example) while letting the people who had already taken advantage of them get away with it and, more importantly, LEAVING EVERY DETRIMENTAL BUG IN THE GAMEMODE.
    i kept playing through all this, in the meantime i'd gotten good enough to wipe entire squads by myself semi-frequently. DMZ was a free gamemode so i assumed i was just running into fresh installs but it still felt good to win a 3v1. the nail in the coffin for me was a matchmaking update they did during season 1 reloaded/season 2 - i went from being able to wipe squads on my own to being lasered down by any other player in the lobby. this, the constant 20/30 gigabyte updates and an update to the bot enemies to make them deal more damage finally made DMZ completely unplayable for me as a solo, so i quit.
    i don't think i'll ever get over just how badly activision butchered my favourite extraction shooter. i genuinely believe it could've become a more casual and frankly more fun alternative to escape from tarkov, but they drove it into the ground so hard that it's now in maintenance mode.

  • @Face_RC
    @Face_RC Рік тому

    How is the blue dot holo better than the cronen mini pro? The mini pro blocks less of your screen and also has a blue dot, so what am I missing?

  • @theonlyocho
    @theonlyocho  Рік тому +15

    Warzone - pay to win? Let me know your thoughts 🗣️
    Edit: Thank you all for the support, this is my first video to get this kind of traction. 🖤

    • @JKLOL267
      @JKLOL267 Рік тому +6

      I feel like they sell meta guns sometimes, too, and then once people buy them and everyone starts complaining. They nerf it, and a new meta is created... and new bundle is sold in the store. I could be wrong, that's just my crazy theory.

    • @PFitty
      @PFitty Рік тому +1

      i dont play as much warzone i play multiplayer and little bit of dmz at times i dont see any benefits in mp in buying dlc but if your looking for pay to win here are my tips buy the rose bundle you get a free uav every deployment and 15 min cooldown sniper and smg but you have to equip your insurance slots with the 15 min cool down weapons other wise you have to wait 1 to 3 hours depending on which slot you lost to a non 15 min cool down weapon every extra insurance slot adds a hour on top you cant beat a uav in dmz😂

    • @MonoIiith
      @MonoIiith Рік тому

      Cod mobile legendary ang mythical guns are p2w they have custom iron sight and aim shake almost gone ang gun sound reduced.

    • @adonais81
      @adonais81 Рік тому

      Against cheaters gtfo

    • @gel87Kjetil
      @gel87Kjetil Рік тому

      Yes, bigtime :)

  • @Unk_On_Da_Stix
    @Unk_On_Da_Stix Рік тому +1

    Who didn’t know it’s pay to win? U can build the exact same gun as one of these bundles & u will see the bundle gun is more powerful. Even with the exact same specs.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +4

      I should’ve tested the damage values tbh

    • @dragontamer8074
      @dragontamer8074 Рік тому

      Incorrect they do the same damage you just nedd to tune it right

    • @Unk_On_Da_Stix
      @Unk_On_Da_Stix Рік тому

      @@dragontamer8074 🧢

  • @coldsed
    @coldsed Рік тому +2

    Tell us how you don't die with so many shots?

  • @AJ-qs4vw
    @AJ-qs4vw Рік тому +1

    Warzone (or CoD) has WAY too many problems, the lack of competition lets them easily get away with it, so either I can continue to give them engagement from my side i.e. time, or I can simply walk away from this cesspool of disappointment, bugs, audio issues, server issues and never look back.

  • @elektra8535
    @elektra8535 Рік тому

    I find funny how initially the devs said they would not make any blueprint that changes the iron sight of the guns like in mw2019 (like the many m4 models, aug, ram-7,mp7, etc) to avoid p2w situations just to sell op sights with better visibility than the ones you unlock for free, complete black skins than merge on the shadows, the groot skin and the whole dmz thing its awful

  • @captainrex6137
    @captainrex6137 Рік тому +2

    The most pay to win bundle would be the one for Alex because of DMZ and the black operator skin

  • @Russão000
    @Russão000 Рік тому +1

    11:00 remember the first Ghost bundle in this game? yeah the ghost skin in DMZ was Immune to VANTs and every VANT it use it turns into a Advanced VANT

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      was it really? Jesus lol

    • @vKross
      @vKross Рік тому

      The Coms Vest gives you a Advanced UAV.

  • @kinguchiha6212
    @kinguchiha6212 Рік тому

    The Taq 56 from the Snoop Dogg skin is wayyy too clean for me to pass up but when I saw that blue dot I damn near cried lol

  • @ph-1012
    @ph-1012 Рік тому +1

    as someone who plays a lot of DMZ the DMZ bonuses are all pretty shit with the exception of the UAV on spawn, thats pretty busted especially since if you know what your doing a UAV can easily make pretty much any fight a win and they're normally fairly hard to get. medium packs, self revives, and all the rest are normally very easy to find, extra operator slots don't really change match to match progress and any decent player can effectively extract regularly enough to the point 15 min cooldowns are pretty pointless.

  • @JohnDee633
    @JohnDee633 Рік тому +1

    I’ve put 600hrs or so into the game, bought multiple skins, also unlocked all 4 camos for every gun. And still never even knew about these specific items that were available with specific bundles. Because, like most normal people, we dont stream the game, and our life isn’t based on our K/D. Streamers and “pro gamers” focus on these things, not the majority.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      I kinda see your point but you don’t think that casual gamers noticed the Roze skin? Or the black noir skin? I think certain things are a little more noticeable than you’re giving credit to

  • @damonlacey4374
    @damonlacey4374 Рік тому

    At 10:31 what's the blueprint for the 556

    • @damonlacey4374
      @damonlacey4374 Рік тому

      Sorry 10:27

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      It’s called “Grace” I think the bundle is called Banisher

    • @damonlacey4374
      @damonlacey4374 Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho thank you very much I couldn't find it In the 556 store part but I'll for the bundle tyy

  • @CLSMAG
    @CLSMAG Рік тому

    *After i paid. Gun very powerful, Speed slightly increaesd (Un noticable until i play with unpaid account)*

  • @AstralPandaBoi
    @AstralPandaBoi Рік тому +1

    I am worried how quickly that skin purchase to lower match making skill or adding bots, was glossed over. Because that is on point with a legit patented game mechanic Ubisoft made. Where game would put realistic bots in place of players but with progressionally more expencive skins. They get you to buy one by showing one in game and killing player with it. Then as that player uses money, they increase value of the skins shown. Why would Activision not do it similarly as giving easier games to show other players that this really good giy is using a cool skin, you can be as good as him if you buy it. And the Buyer gets a temporary ego boost for being good with the gun they used money on, it just seems too easy of a thing to implement and I am 100% sure this is how it works.

  • @drww24
    @drww24 Рік тому

    As someone with 100+ hours is DMZ, the only one that even effects other operators is the uav.

  • @NyukiMH
    @NyukiMH Рік тому +1

    You forgot that blackcell skin sometimes turn into white and you can't see, the skin mix with your gun smoke, and now we have the dog who barks everytime someone see you, those blackcell cost for me half price of a full game :(

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Yeah man Blackcell is expensive. The gun smoke also SUCKS

  • @vChuuck
    @vChuuck Рік тому +29

    The DMZ is stuff is literally the only thing in this video that could be close to P2W. But even on that note, the things that come with those bundles hardly gives any sort of advantage that would consider it P2W.

    • @Dark.Syndicate
      @Dark.Syndicate Рік тому +20

      how much is activision paying u?

    • @grabthebaitian1854
      @grabthebaitian1854 Рік тому +5

      Haha yeah bud
      I mean i have this roze skin with the free uav and i must say my win/survival rate went up from like 10% to 85% 😂😂😂😂

    • @ItzWolfComp
      @ItzWolfComp Рік тому +2

      I 100% agree, this guy is just REACHING!

    • @mufukajones518
      @mufukajones518 Рік тому +3

      My guy... black noir is basically built in dead silence. The new tree skins barely register on ps4, so they are majority invisible to most players. That fucking Blackcell skin that changes color literally makes you invisible every few seconds

    • @vChuuck
      @vChuuck Рік тому +1

      @@Dark.Syndicate just logic. Not jumping on the p2w train. It’s an idiotic mind set and opens a door to let people bitch about something. People have lost touch with what p2w actually is

  • @troylopezparker8635
    @troylopezparker8635 Рік тому +1

    The Doom bundle

  • @shabcity123
    @shabcity123 Рік тому +1

    my 2 cents i think the only 2 that are really an issue are the color of skins in the game when it comes to shadows (but there are some you can just unlock that are pretty good at hiding), and the operate perks in dmz ( this is straight up pay2win). But the rest of it ehh, the first one has no backing (which is alight he did preface it with that) and the having powerful weapons or op stuff come out in something you pay for such as a new gun i dont think its fair to call that p2w. Because by that logic any game like WoW, Destiny, ESO, etc. is p2w. But that is just content, its a new thing to go get. On day 1 you pay for what you get in the box, if you find that worth or not is completely up to you. Everything after that is free game, and its not like other guns become completely obsolete i myself avg about 1.7kd with just guns you get through the base game. But if you are losing firefights super consistently its also a skill issue. But i think that also starts leaking into the sbmm system, back in the day you didnt really have that so you would feel more like a god stomping people now you get matched peopel closer to your skill so its easier to point fingers at these things.
    With that said i still appreciate videos like this because its a slippery slope, and someone has to keep them accountable at least by voicing it. The one that gets me the most is the DMZ stuff out of everything.

  • @laacos
    @laacos 4 місяці тому

    I don't understand why Activision isn't usually called out for just the idea of blueprints.
    They are undoubtedly pay to win, even though they don't usually affect the game as much.
    Player one uses a level 1 gun, player two has a blueprint for the same gun with attachments that make it better than stock. Player two is in an advantage.

  • @-Steeltoelion-
    @-Steeltoelion- Рік тому

    I quit playing at the end of season 1 when they didn’t give us a DMZ mode that left out other players.
    As soon as I started hearing about them adding operators that gave them items like that, it just solidified my choice to quit.
    I have never paid for anything and I tried coming back to the game for a coworker who wanted me to play and absolutely everyone has a pay to win skin and blueprint.
    We just finished 8 games and none of the 8 did we win not even by a marginal amount, an absolute blowout all 8 games.
    It’s absolutely atrocious what COD has become. It should be a felony.

  • @morracle6308
    @morracle6308 Рік тому

    you got me on prologue, keep up the good content bro😂

  • @criptixz
    @criptixz Рік тому +1

    They cant recolor black noir cuz it has to looks exactly like in the movie😢 Good vid btw.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Yeah I doubt they’d be able to change him, it’s not their IP. And thank you 🙌

  • @shadowgs_5077
    @shadowgs_5077 Рік тому +1

    Hey GOOD EDIT seriously I love tose subtitles and memes ❤❤❤

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Thank you so much that means a lot 🙏

  • @dices.
    @dices. Рік тому

    when i first started watching this video i thought you would have had ATLEAST 100k subs, but when i scrolled down and saw your sub count i got really surprised!
    the quality of these videos are amazing! keep up the great work and i'm positive that you will blow up really fast!

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      Comments like this really mean a lot to me, thank you. 🙏 if you like this one I think you’ll enjoy the next one I’m working on!

    • @dices.
      @dices. Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho i look forward to it! i don't even play warzone myself and i was hooked on this video all the way through. that says a lot!

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      @@dices. that's my goal right there, just be widely accessible. Again I really appreciate the feedback

  • @Mood_Gaming
    @Mood_Gaming Рік тому

    MWIII is gonna have a serious pay to win issue that sniper/bolt action rifle in the beta was just the start.

  • @Oehp24
    @Oehp24 Рік тому +1

    There is a really good book you can read to improve your game sense and K/D, its called Git Gud

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      There’s a really good video you can watch where I dropped 31 kills in solos, lmk if I still need the book after that. 👍

  • @DDog1125
    @DDog1125 Рік тому +1

    Tbf we had worse P2W bullshit back in the old days with DLC weapons locked behind paywalls/supply drops. However, this is still really bad though.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      You’re absolutely right, lowkey forgot all DLC used to be paid. But the quality of the games back them were way better imo

    • @DDog1125
      @DDog1125 Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho As good as the games were back then, I’m so glad that DLC is free nowadays. Imagine how incredible these older COD’s would have been if all of the DLC’s were free.

  • @perxville
    @perxville Рік тому

    I feel like it’s lags me on purpose, when I’m going decently positive I’m in the 1000s of ping but when I’m getting my ass handed to me I have the lowest ping I’ve ever had, and it’s so consistent as if there’s a switch someone’s pulling

  • @RickyM-g7g
    @RickyM-g7g Рік тому

    Would it make sense if I said every skin has its own kd

  • @DetectiveJones
    @DetectiveJones Рік тому +1

    Bruh, I swear to god I'm going insane with what games are PTW...Team Fight Tactics in League is one of them and I will die on that hill. Didn't win matches while playing a bunch of games with friend, say how it's weird the high value skin players seem to get super lucky meanwhile I couldn't get a good champion to save my life. Friend buys a skin, wins the very next game...Interesting. I buy a skin right after, win the very next game. First for both of us. It'll come out one day revealing the PTW and I will be vindicated but until then I will remain with my tinfoil hat.

  • @_Hal9000
    @_Hal9000 Рік тому

    Do they still have controller aim bot support?

  • @awatf8244
    @awatf8244 Рік тому

    I can confirm this. I used some weapons from the battlepass max leveled: Garbage weapons. Then i unlocked their blueprints from the paid battlepass and for no reason became meta weapons

  • @hasanfarhan1001
    @hasanfarhan1001 Рік тому

    I felt it from the beginning, even they send me other servers, and ping is always high.

  • @GamingSpider115
    @GamingSpider115 Рік тому +3

    2:50 i often buy skins or blueprints to customize my gear, in my 4 years since MW19 i never noticed getting a easier lobby (MP/Warzone). Theres a chance to have low skilled players but not crazy high

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Yeah it’s not really provable but it’s always been a rumor

  • @eledwin7115
    @eledwin7115 Рік тому

    For DMZ, the 15 min cooldown, helpss me a ton, Am a casual gamer, can only play like 1-2 a day, no way I can grin to get what I want, at least with the Bundle get the same oportunities, like other people that do have the time..chill

  • @LiveTUNA
    @LiveTUNA Рік тому +1

    I've bought ever battle pass, spent probably close to a thousand dollars on every bundle and wasted over 46 days of playtime on this game however, it's been unplayable since season 4 on PC. I get a scan and repair crash every 5 minutes. I've done everything from downloading the newest game ready drivers, giving the devs my crash report link and uninstalling and reinstalling the game 6 different times, but it still won't work. I've now gotten used to playing battlefield now and even leveled up 6 of my operators to and several weapons, gear and vehicles to T1. I got an email yesterday saying that the game is fixed save they found the error that was causing thousands of players on PC to crash. So i reinstalled the game and....... It still crashes every 5 minutes. It's not fixed at All!!!

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      The game is super poorly optimized but it sounds like your RAM might be overheating. That happens with WZ2 a lot

  • @ramyyoussef2760
    @ramyyoussef2760 Рік тому +1

    I play DMZ only and I'm on the free version, to be fair the p2w elements give a very small advantage because medium backpack for example is only 5k I can just load up with 20k from my wallet and go buy myself a 2plate vest and a medium bag and a self rez in the first minute of the match.

    • @BAMFWrangler
      @BAMFWrangler Рік тому

      Lol say that now when a UAV costs $100,000

  • @cameronmorrell2899
    @cameronmorrell2899 Рік тому

    First time seeing one of your vids and I'm shocked that you only have 2.5k subs, keep up the good work man. Awesome content.

  • @RedForeman
    @RedForeman Рік тому

    That new Gaia skin is practically invisible…… idk why they thought that was a good idea . Black noir doesn’t bother me it’s that god damn Gaia!!!

  • @beyankin8064
    @beyankin8064 Рік тому

    Season 4 Blackcell skin IO changes between white and black. There was a time I chased a then black IO up a staircase, and when I got to the top, he was prone on the floor and had turned white, blending in with the floor. That was the only moment it felt P2W for me.

  • @Peluceus
    @Peluceus Рік тому

    It's just going to get worse over time. Today's 'this is pushing the line' is tomorrow's 'but yesterday's version was okay' when yesterday we called the same same system of tomorrow 'unacceptable and not okay'.

  • @GhostyOfKyiv
    @GhostyOfKyiv Рік тому

    I only buy for the tactical operators, not because I blend in, it’s because they are tactical and semi realistic.

  • @HoundlanderGaming
    @HoundlanderGaming Рік тому

    Warzone makes me nauseous. As if old school multiplayer on cod wasnt toxic enough, they came up with a better way 🤣🤣🤣 good video dude, congrats on the partner program and keep up the good work ✌️

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      They always seem to make it worse somehow, huh? Lol and thanks man I appreciate it! 🙌

    • @HoundlanderGaming
      @HoundlanderGaming Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho warzone used to be cool, i just cant dig it anymore, last time i played i unloaded on a guy who was facing the wrong way (that sounds so wrong) hit marker after hit marker and then he turns around and shoots me once and i'm done for.... its just a trolls/hackers playground these days.

  • @LoneSailorKwonTV
    @LoneSailorKwonTV Рік тому

    Having a good pc with cross play turned on is 100% the biggest pay to win in gaming history, Cross play has destroyed gaming in a sense Honorable mention: The effect latency has on on gaming and close gunfights also reaction time. poeple who cloes to their internet service provider designated server has a lower latency and pc players can enable low latency mode as well

  • @leanswagger5822
    @leanswagger5822 Рік тому

    the groot looking skin for the halloween event is the worst, not just black, but also see through...

  • @LilOGedits
    @LilOGedits Рік тому +2

    This channel is Soooo underrated

  • @potkor
    @potkor Рік тому

    dude is like - 'you get ur money back from this 20$ battlepass' and its a 70$ game. And GOD forbid you ever need help from support! You will have better luck getting an answer by writing your problem on a note and sending it to the armenian pope by a flying pigeon

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      I was talking primarily about Warzone 2/DMZ which are both free, the support 100% sucks, and that’s a hilarious analogy lol

  • @DrGVoD
    @DrGVoD Рік тому

    People seem to forget how they nerfed all mw2019 guns to the floor when Cold war came out ,so basically if you bought the new game and/or the new store bundles you basically was one shotting everyone in warzone lobbies.

    • @elektra8535
      @elektra8535 Рік тому +1

      They didn't nerf mw guns, simply the news ones were better. And it took them a long time because CW guns only some smgs and the ultra op guns were being used when they first make the integration (m16, dmr, type, aug, ffar), i think it took them until half season 3 or initial season 4 to make a lot of guns of CW viable and better than the mw ones, because the Main problem of early cw guns was how awful they were at range specially the ARs

  • @eze4life100
    @eze4life100 Рік тому

    no worries, the stance against these advances by developers that'll shell assets together to gather some form of profit will only lead to development regression in the long term. This aspect is touching on the basis of phrasing, "There is a sucker born everyday."

  • @glockior1747
    @glockior1747 Рік тому +1

    U doing good and good editing, this channel is next up

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Thank you man. That really made my day.

  • @Phlegnut19
    @Phlegnut19 Рік тому +4

    Weapons arent play to win but operators definitely are

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +4

      Operators for sure, it’s constant too

    • @Phlegnut19
      @Phlegnut19 Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho we're on roze skin 15 already

    • @Kenny-hy5pj
      @Kenny-hy5pj Рік тому +1

      The colour of the skins definitely need some lightning effect when in the dark

    • @Phlegnut19
      @Phlegnut19 Рік тому

      @@Kenny-hy5pj they definitely knee what they were doing with roze black noir

    • @Kenny-hy5pj
      @Kenny-hy5pj Рік тому

      @@Phlegnut19
      Yes
      They all like doing these shitty things to squeeze our wallet
      But idc
      I spend my money to other game that better than cod like Allen Wake 2 spiderman 2
      In cod I only paid for the campaign because I like the story

  • @Luvvvvvvvvvvv
    @Luvvvvvvvvvvv Рік тому

    What skin onlyocho wearing 2:54

  • @sirab3ee198
    @sirab3ee198 Рік тому

    In battlefield 1 they were charging for skins that made you visible for people playing the campaign :))))) ...

  • @johnnytesla6406
    @johnnytesla6406 Рік тому

    How do you check lobbies

  • @brianmiddleton3359
    @brianmiddleton3359 Рік тому +1

    I only play dmz. The wallet nullifys the 15 min gun. Use 3 you want and die? Take 130k in head straight to exfil and all ur guns are good to go next round.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      Interesting, so having hella DMZ money actually helps the weapon cooldown?

    • @nomicnevermic
      @nomicnevermic Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho Yes. The more money you exfil with, the more your cooldown timer is reduced.

    • @brianmiddleton3359
      @brianmiddleton3359 Рік тому

      @theonlyocho it's is a nice feature. Evens the playing field foe those who think the 15 min cooldown guns are p2w

  • @SteveEricJordan
    @SteveEricJordan Рік тому +1

    bro hit us with a prologue and told us to get blankets in a 13 minute video

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      I won’t lie I thought it would be way longer when I wrote it lol

  • @iPitty
    @iPitty Рік тому +2

    Accused? xD its a fucking fact they are in botlobbies and using cronus xD

  • @WildWing__84
    @WildWing__84 Рік тому +1

    Blue dot is a preference thing. Dark suits are whatever. Nobody is talking about them because they don’t matter. The boys without “the boys” was stupid. Tuning is another preference. Blueprints are another preference. DMZ bundles matter the least because it doesn’t matter against coward ass 6 man squads. The only thing you have any leg to stand on with is the 15minute cool down. But with contraband. Most of those I have are just as good as your insured slot. In conclusion. To all the streamers….Stop crying. You get money for playing video games while most of us pay money to play video games and with all the help in the world when we get off work at our real jobs and come home to have a little fun and unwind. We get killed by crybabies streamers and sweats.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому +1

      Yeah but big company greedy

    • @WildWing__84
      @WildWing__84 Рік тому

      @@theonlyocho can’t disagree with you there

  • @Marlboro-lights1
    @Marlboro-lights1 Рік тому

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding the skins issue but to me it would make more sense that the people buying the skins would be the ones dedicated to the game and therefore play more. Wouldn’t that be making you match with other people dedicated to the game? Also reticles are subjective. I prefer green.

  • @noble9759
    @noble9759 Рік тому

    The big issue I have with cod is when you buy the game and you don't get a starter pack for buying the game. Or at the very least a really easy XP system so when I join lobbies and the devs nerf basic naked guns you could use the weapon you know is good to rank it up.... Instead of some random weapon. Don't make cod a 9-5 and give players basic attachments so lobbies aren't as painful for the new player joining into lobbies with 100s and 500s lol

  • @DarkSoul45456
    @DarkSoul45456 Рік тому

    what do you think how they wanna sell the game mw 1 2019 and warzone 1 have the same problems overall like mw2 and warzone 2 why they shouldn't try it on mw3 warzone 3

  • @funman1869
    @funman1869 Рік тому +1

    I can understand some of your points but I have never gotten one of these bot lobbys after buying a bundle its always sweat lords but it doesn't bother me that much also the attachment argument pay to win is mor pay to skip grinding for a attachment also i like the leveling system right now because it gets people to try other weapons besides just one and always useing the same thing

  • @huskycruxes7232
    @huskycruxes7232 Рік тому

    It is blatantly pay to win. It’s even hidden. A few years ago there was a patent going around of a system Activision made that incentivizes players for buying something from the store by putting them in easier lobbies.
    Making the player feel that their purchase was justified so they’re more inclined to buy something else.

  • @hongkongboyfriend1051
    @hongkongboyfriend1051 Рік тому

    nice video man great editing keep it up

  • @20vs20
    @20vs20 Рік тому +1

    I’ll be honest i used to hate pay to win. But I bought the FAR last night and mp5 load out because I just don’t have the time to grind anymore but I love to play with the meta weapons because who wouldn’t.

    • @theonlyocho
      @theonlyocho  Рік тому

      Yup, this is part of the point I was trying to communicate. It’s not necessarily pay to win but man it’s so much easier to just pay than grind

  • @dustinbodenbender3645
    @dustinbodenbender3645 Рік тому +2

    Keep buy cheats bro. Ignorance is bliss.

  • @lawrencemcmillan6693
    @lawrencemcmillan6693 Рік тому

    Mainly it’s making us think less while playing the game. I hadn’t read enough, in game, to know about the DMZ bonuseffect lol

  • @rdavisct1986
    @rdavisct1986 Рік тому

    I've yet to buy a bundle not because I wouldn't but because it's never in my budget so I'm not against it but what gets me is how the same people that went out and bought an expensive gaming mouse , a higher hz monitor , 800 dollar gpu ,etc . Can complain about people paying for a operator bundle that helps give them a gaming advantage over the casual player .. does anyone not see the hypocrisy in this? .