Thanks, Tom! 6:03 One of the issues with the Bolt EV (and why I kept pushing GM to offer an upgraded 200 A CCS harness) is that it draws power for battery conditioning and climate control directly from the charger, but because the cable/harness is current-limited (150 A), the additional power reduces the charging rate rather than increasing the power drawn from the charger. To me, that was a big missed opportunity by GM to increase the Bolt EV's average charging rate below 50% battery by about 10% to 15% and shave about 5 to 10 minutes off the 10% to 80% charging time.
@@tashi282 I doubt this will be the case. Busy stations will be busy, regardless, and the Bolt EVs are going to have zero impact on the length of the queues.
Hertz is selling off much their Bolt inventory. 2023 bolt with 20k miles for $19k. Giving them the ability to charge at Tesla SCs completely eliminates range anxiety and makes the Bolt somewhat road-trip worthy. There is finally an inexpensive long range EV now!
The Bolt is not road trip worthy with a 50 kW charge rate. All this will do is increase charger congestion. Big battery + slow charging is not a recipe for success. Believe me, I know...I have an I-Pace with a similar limitation.
It doesn't matter where you charge. The Bolt is one of the slowest charging vehicles in the market. A great cheap EV runabout if you charge at home. A very good measure of your patience if you are road tripping. A great city/suburb EV if you are on a budget and can charge mostly at home.
@@Wised1000 Yup, the Bolt EUV compliments my current situation. My wife and I have a 2024 RAV4 hybrid (hers) and a 2008 Chrysler T&C with 70000 miles on it that acts as pickup or travel vehical when needed. The Bolt is typically to work and around the town.
I've had my Bolt for 6 months now and done 5 road trips, defined by me as needing at least one charge mid-trip. It is not ideal, but it's not that bad either. My longest trip was 600 miles. My longest charge was 33 minutes. I never charge on the road above 60% because up to 60% it charges at the full rate of 55 kW. That said, it does take a little patience and a mindset adjustment. Is it really that bad to stop every 3.5 hours for 20 to 30 minutes; use the bathroom, get a bite to eat, catch up on texts and emails? If so, it is not the right car for road tripping.
@john.powers I live in the upper Midwest, and there are lots of Bolts. The only time their range gets dicey its when its below zero and range drops to 120 miles or so. Yet again, if that's well within your daily drive its a a great solution.
That's what the BOLT was originally designed for. 10 years ago!!!!. Even for intercity travel, it does a fine job. We have family members 170 miles away. I charge it at 100% and it's plenty to get there.
I think the BZ4X has this beat. Sure they are rated for higher charging, but from what I've seen they typically charge at 30kw or so. I mostly know this from watching pissed off BZ4X and Solterra owners at a Charge Point I go to frequently.
Here we come🐢!! I never go past 70% with my Bolt on fast chargers and I stay away from the high speed chargers. But I’ve seen plenty of Teslas sitting at full on our “non Tesla chargers” right beside empty Tesla chargers because I assume ours are cheaper, despite being unreliable and annoying to use. I will make sure to park in the far spot so as not to take up 2 locations and avoid when busy but this will be nice to have in a pinch. There is a town in BC Canada where there are often waits on long weekends while the Tesla spots sit empty. Make a Model 2 and I might join the cult😁
Those are nice cars but the price wasn’t even close up here and as I couldn’t buy a Zeeker or a Geeley it was the best cost option. And I have more storage for inflatable paddle boards and gear than the 3. And the regen paddle is fun in the mountains AND I only fast charge on holidays. Don’t worry I’ll only use them as a last resort😁
We own a 2020 and 2019 BOLT EV and both are charging at Tesla Superchargers with no problem. We are using the Lectron Vortex Adapters. All is working well.
I charged my 2020 Bolt on a supercharger tonight with an A2Z Typhoon adapter. I had called my dealer ahead of time and gave them my VIN. They couldn't tell me if I needed an update. They recommended I try it. I did and it worked fine and ran cool to the touch.
I thought the same as @guru2899. What kind idiot came up with this idea. Let’s allow a car to use the SC, only it has to be one of the slowest charging vehicles, it can only use the faster chargers (that it can’t take advantage of) AND it has to take up 2 slots. What a genius idea. No offense to Bolt owners or their cars. Just disappointed in the decision-making leadership here. It’s like someone is intentionally trying to engineer a condition ripe for road rage.
What does Mary have to do with this. Ignorance is sometimes amazing!!!. This car was designed in 2015 with commuting and city driving. The same goes for USB stick capacities, hard drives, etc. What do you expect?
I've heard that it's much faster to initiate charging with the Tesla app. Love to see a comparison between the two. Saving 20 seconds actually is important to me. I do road trip occasionally with my BoltEV and love plug and charge with the Flo Network in Canada. My family abandons me as I'm fiddling with apps when I'm not on Flo, LOL. Thanks, Tom for another great video.
Having Access to Tesla superchargers makes me so much more comfortable about the idea of driving my Cadillac Lyriq on road trips. I have 2 years free of EV go. Now I have access to Tesla 😍
I just received my adapter from GM (it is the Tesla Adapter) and charged my 23 Bolt EUV with out any problems. I tested this using both the GM app and the Tesla app, both worked just fine.
@@roberthoward6032 I must tell you I was shocked when the Dealer called me and left a message that my part was ready. I had preordered it online, but, gm cancelled the order a couple of weeks later. So, I thought I was out of luck. So, it was pure luck that the adapter actually arrived. Just Luck.
@@nathanscandella6075 Probably, I did not pay attention to the price, I was simply too excited to be charging at a Tesla Supercharger. I did notice that I was able to charge my Bolt EUV at just over 50kw. Which for a Bolt with a 55kw max is pretty good. Note: I only charged for several minutes using each app because I really did not need to get a full charge.
Tried out Equinox EV last night at a charger after we got our adapter. Had to park like a jerk, taking up two spaces. Went from 31% to 75% (spots were filling up and we felt bad, so we didn't go to 80%) in about 25 minutes. Was awesome and only cost about $20.
That’s pretty expensive. If you have 315 miles of capacity then you added 138 miles of range. So that is 0.14$ per mile. A gas car that gets 35 mpg paying 3.05$ per gallon (that’s the price where I’m living) would be paying $0.087 per mile. So the supercharger is 60% more expensive than gasoline. The economics are even better for a Prius hybrid. If you can’t charge from home, the EV is more expensive.
@@mongo64071 Your example isn't quite apples to apples. We don't know where they were charging. $20 for 44% of range is about $0.57 per kWh, quite expensive so that could be in California, where gas is about $5 per gallon. Also Equinox EV produces 290hp and 346 lb⋅ft torque, a comparable gas car won't get 35 mpg, more like 25.
@@alexgirniak8606 even at 25 mpg, my cost would be 0.12$ per mile. Still cheaper than the EV. I don’t know how much the performance aspect factors into the EV decision calculus. I think that a lot of people are buying these to save money rather than do burnouts. The most comparable thing therefore is a hybrid like, the RAV4 hybrid that gets 39 mpg. In that case, the RAV4 would be a better deal. Also, the UK Telegraph just did an article last week that showed the running cost of an EV in UK is twice that of an equivalent diesel vehicle. So the comparison holds true over there as well.
Thank you for the Link/Discount for the A2Z Pro Typhoon Adapter. I followed the link and got the discount. It arrived within two days. My 2020 Bolt did need a Dealer Installed Software Update. CARR Chevrolet of Beaverton, Oregon did the Software Update and did not charge me. I then went to a Tesla Supercharger Station. It worked with the Tesla App. The MyChevrolet App was a trainwreck. I highly recommend using the Tesla App.
I'm so glad, we in Europe, can use SuC already a long time. Also just tested a new V4 stall near my hind on my ELW Livewire. It's a blast to utilize these chargers.
I have a 2017 Bolt EV and did my test charge today 9/21/24 probably while this video was uploading and the biggest problem I had was getting positioned in the parking stall. I was able to get into a spot to the right of the last charger so not taking two spots, I just wasn't quite close enough on my first try, now I know.
Thank you, do you have to have onstar subscription to charge? My 17 hasn’t had onstar turned on, so I can’t access “public charging” section of the app
@@ryanthomas9685 nope, I do not have the paid OnStar. I do however have my car connected to OnStar. I will admit that I am going to try out the Tesla app because I don't really like the Chevrolet app all that much.
Great video Tom! My Lectron adapter arrived yesterday, looking forward to trying it out at a Supercharger with our Bolt EUV this weekend. It's just nice to know there will be extra reliable charging options available to us now, even though I rarely need to DCFC.
Great video. Just a note of added clarification heat in the adapter is more related to amps than just KW. So an Equinox EV pulling 500A (300V) at 150KW will generate more heat in the adapter than another EV pulling 375A at 400V (150KW). Heat generated in the connector is proportional to the current squared times the contact resistance across the adapter. You can use the Tesla app and it will tell you what stations you can use when you input your vehicle. Also in google maps you can change what plugs your car can use. Though my Blazer EV still shows it as incompatible in the infotainment screen (and didn't auto pre-condition)
Happy for you! Hope it happens for me before too long, but… not holding my breath. And frankly, I've had such encouraging experiences at other DCFC sites, that I will only use a Supercharger when I have no other choice.
Thinking of doing a road trip next month with my bolt and got an adapter, and didnt know i need to also comsider if the tesla is V2. Thanks for that info. I'll do some testing before next month to see how things work.
V2 and earlier is Chademo communications. Tesla then adopted CCS communications but kept their plug/port design with V3 and later. CCS vehicle manufacturers for the US market are doing the opposite: keeping the CCS communications but adopting the Tesla plug/port design.
Excellent! Please let us know when other manufacturers can charge on Superchargers - in my family we have a VW ID.4 as well as a 2017 Bolt EV. And thank you for the coupon codes to buy these adapters!
The Tesla app allows you to add your vehicle by going to the hamburger menu on the top right when you open the app. Then choose “charging” > “vehicle details”. From there hit the “+” sign to add a vehicle to your account profile. When done just back out to the home screen and it’ll search for chargers compatible with your vehicle and if it requires an adapter or not. Don’t forget to add or update your payment info to make your first charge a little more smoother.
@@karensandberg6226 @pennyharris446 The thickness of the cable is a dead giveaway. Once you see a V2 and V3 SuC you will recognize the skinnier cables of the V3 stalls immediately.
If you set up the Tesla app for (e.g.) your Bolt, it won't even show incompatible SCs on the map. On PlugShare, compatible SCs will say "Open to non-Teslas" (V3+) or "Tesla only" (V2-). But yeah, without an app, I dunno.
I have called five dealerships in my city just to see if they can tell me if I need the update on my 2019. 1st dealer - didn't seem to know what I was talking about and sounded annoyed by it. Was told that the car needed to be there to check for software updates. 2nd dealer - Operator said all lines are busy 3rd dealer - Phone just rang and rang and rang, no answer. 4th dealer - Phone just rang and rang , then went to voicemail. (tried twice, same result) 5th dealer - Told me "the guy who would know had already left for the weekend"
Same here my local dealership had no idea about the software update. In fact they seemed to think I was talking about some 3rd party unauthorized update and told me it would cost $200 for them to install and would void my vehicle warranty. At this point I may just get the adapter and try it out anyway.
@@philipcurtis9983 I would try it but, (I have an A2Z adapter ready to use) but I read that without the software (if needed) could cause “error codes”. If i get one of these error codes would it prevent me from charging all together and require a dealership visit to reset? Don’t want to risk it.
@@mewtwo255200 I don't know but perhaps the worst that would happen would be it simply won't change. At least you would know for sure if you even need a software update.
I’ve enjoyed my bolt, and this does alleviate concerns of mine when going a bit far in my travels, but more than likely I’m gonna steer clear of Tesla SCs because I can’t just see the looks I’d get, and charging at a public setting is already stressful enough, either way, good luck to those who are braver than I!!
I doubt you'll get any looks unless the station is completely full, and your Bolt is essentially taking up two spots because of the parking issue mentioned in the video. At least with the Tesla app (which I think you can sign up for without owning a Tesla vehicle, should be able to use it just for charging), you can see how full the station is before you go there. Mostly unused stalls, I bet no-one cares. [FTR, I own a Bolt and a Tesla, no partisanship here]
I had no problem fitting it into a single space and charging from there, but, that's not the issue. The problem is that the space you have to park in to do it is (in most Supercharger layouts) one space over to the right from the space that's "supposed" to belong to the charger. So, unless you're on the rightmost end of a string of chargers, you end up blocking one of the chargers, from the perspective of a Tesla driver. (On the other hand, for another Bolt, it's no problem.)
@@wmcbrine I think the person is saying that a Bolt is so narrow that if you park in the stall Teslas normally park in, but park head-in pointing diagonally toward the back-right corner, the cable will reach, and your back-left corner won't even be in the next stall. You just need to angle the charge port so it's roughly in the middle of the stall, rather than on the left, as it would be if you parked straight (head-) in.
I foolishly ordered the GM adapter for $250 after taxes and delivery fee (I know, there’s a code, but where to enter it wasn’t obvious, if there at all), but it’s back ordered ! The local Bolt dealer said it’ll only work on the 2023 model (mine), not the 2024! What? What brand is the GM adapter, and should I cancel my order and buy one of Tom’s 3rd party adapters? Is there really any harm in buying a third-party adapter?
Yesterday, I was successful in charging a Hertz rental bolt with my A2Z adaptor with the manual lock. It charges about the same speed as my 2015 Tesla Model S...
When you say there's currently no way to tell if charger is compatible that's not entirely true, if you use the Tesla app and tell it you have an adapter then it will show you all compatible Superchargers, you can then send it to your routing app of choice.
OK, Tom. So for my 2017 Bolt EV, I gather that my destination adapter (Lectron Tesla to J1772 Adapter, Max 40A & 250V - Compatible with Tesla High Powered Connector, Destination Charger, and Mobile Connector) is not usable, & I need to buy one of the three approved adapters in order to use the Tesla superchargers. And the new, approved DC fast charger adapters will also work with destination chargers, correct? Thanks for your help.😮
So the adapter you have is for AC charging and the adapter you need for Superchargers is exclusively a DC adapter. Neither will work on the other systems, so you'll need to keep your current AC adapter in the car also.
Tom, I thought you might find this interesting. We have only one Supercharger site in the Bakersfield California area. It’s about a year new. It does not show up on my Chevy app, but it does on my Tesla app. I have test charged there twice using an A2Z adapter and it worked fine. Tesla processed my credit card both times. This Tesla location has some stalls set up for vehicle’s with charge ports in different locations than Tesla’s, but they were full of Teslas using them because they don’t have to back in. So, I had to tie up 2 stalls! A very nice Tesla owner came over to let me know I was using the wrong charger for my stall. He had no idea what I was dealing with before I explained. In fun I suggested he counsel the Tesla owners who could have charged in my type stall and left the more accessible ones for others. While I was charging it got quite busy. When it dawned on me that I was grossly outnumbered I decided it was prudent to leave. 😅
I have a 2023 Bolt euv and wondering as far as an adapter for the tesla charge out of all of them which one do you think would be the best all around as far as how it fits, efficency and price. Much appreciate it!
Thanks Tom! I took our 19 Bolt in for the software upgrade the morning this video dropped. I took two hours. Not sure if it was really two hours or it took time for the tech to get to it. I ordered the A2Z adapter with your code today as well. I don't think we'll use SuC that often as our Bolt is a local commuter car as my wife's daily driver. But having access to V3's makes life easier and less stressful. It opens the Bolt to longer distances if needed. I told my wife (half jokingly) if she were ever to get flak from a Tesla owner, tell them we also also own a Tesla, the stock and Elon invited us. We've supercharged hundreds of times and only had one instance where the SuC was full and had to wait 3 minutes. But that would have been awkward as a Bolt owner taking two stalls.
@@mewtwo255200 No, I did not see an email. When I saw the news I called my Chevy dealer (the same one who did the battery swap) and made an appointment. Ours is a 8/18 build but a 2019 Model year.
@@epcalderhead Thanks, my 2019 was built on 12/18. I was just trying to see if date of manufacture determined if a 2019 needed the update or not. I also didn’t receive an email.
@@mewtwo255200 We probably could have taken our Bolts to a Tesla SuC sans the update and it would have worked. 😉 I found this on GMAuthority: "In addition, some Chevy Bolt EVs will require a software update to use a Tesla Supercharger. “Select Bolt EVs (mostly MY19 and MY20) may require a software update to ensure seamless charging at a Tesla Supercharger,” GM states. “Those customers can order a GM approved NACS DC adapter through their GM vehicle brand apps and contact their Chevrolet dealership to schedule this complimentary software update.” Owners who require the update will receive an email notification informing them of such, however, any customer who is unsure is encouraged to contact their local dealer to assess if a software update is indeed required." I find it strange that it does not mention MY 17 and 18 Bolts.
Hello! Which attachment would you recommend for a 2023 Bolt EV LT? Thinking about the $197 offer with 10% off with your code. Thanks for reply in advance.
This is going to be interesting come January for me. Driving from Chicago to Tampa. Will use Tesla is I have to but I will watch for EVgo, Electrify America and Charge Point. But I won't have to bypass the Tesla stops anymore.
I have an '18, and the app (android) doesn't have a map option. Is there something else I need? I plan to use the Tesla app, but it would be nice to have this too.
Supposedly, the initial charging speed of my 2019 Leaf ChaDeMo is 100 kW. Although it is used as a daily driver (perfect use for it) I wish there was an adapter for the rare case where a round trip to rural setting is 20 miles too far, but has a Tesla L2 destination charger at a good restaurant at the destination. Being able to add 25 miles while enjoying excellent fried chicken and hot rolls would save me from needing to use the ICE.
There are a significant number of 2019~2020 Bolt owners mentioning dealerships wanting to charge for the software update, despite GM's email to these owners that it should be 'complimentary'. Hopefully this gets corrected soon as it seems this was not properly communicated to the dealers.
FWIW: The '20 Bolt and '23 Bolt EUV stop charging at 78% whenever I set the charge limit to "80%". Not sure if you set the limit on the car, but that is what I've always noticed :)
@StateOfCharge When you talked to GM about charging did you mention the equinox? I really want to buy one but with its issue with DC fast charging I will not be able to road trip with it. I would need to take the model 3 which isn't ideal for my family.
Tom, i have a '23 EUV with the in-dash GPS. Do you know if GM is working on an update to add Tesla fast chargers to GPS? That would be a huge help when travelling. Thank you for all of the information you provided in this episode. Ill be back in touch for the correct Level 3 garage charger for my Bolt. -Todd
I charged my 2019 Bolt LT on a Supercharger with the A2Z Typhoon adapter. Had a little trouble getting the NACS plug locked into the adapter but once I did started charging quickly with no problems. I used the Tesla app as I already had it installed when I charged at a Supercharger Magic Dock a couple months ago. Did not get a software update.
Hey to , iam having a issue with mt GM app, even after activation of Tesla on mt app and ended up ordering the NACS adapter , the app do not list the Tesla charger close to me which is a 250kw. I tried doing all the troubleshooting ,but I could not use the GM app to charge my car, I was able to use the Tesla app to charge my car.
2017 Bolt here. I didn’t keep Onstar active once it timed out, and I don’t use a data package, since my phone has mobile hotspot and lots of data. Perhaps this is the reason the Mychevy app doesn’t update? Should be able to use the Tesla app to charge with. I know that I’ve used it without issue to charge rented Teslas numerous times.
Do you need to have an onstar subscription to see the map icon on the Chevy app and start a charge? I don’t see the map icon on my app but also don’t have an onstar subscription.
I pick up a used 2023 Bolt EUV tomorrow so i'm cramming to learn as much as possible. This is also my first EV. First question, what is that ChEVrolet app you are showing? Is it the My Chevrolet app in the ios app store? I also need a charge cable so your site is very welcome to find.
I’m about to buy an adapter for my 2017 Bolt. So are the non-GM adapters, Lectron and Typhoon pro, any significant differences or pretty much a toss up and choose the cheaper option? Thanks!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks, Tom! Though I tried both sites and Lectron discount was a little better. Though A2Z didn’t add. tax? Perhaps that’s why? Take care, great channel!
Hmm, tricky... you could get a CCS-to-CHAdeMO adapter, and charge it at a Magic Dock Supercharger, since they're open to all. You could theoretically stack the C-to-C with a different NACS-to-CCS adapter for use at a V3 SC, but it won't work, because Tesla hasn't authorized the Leaf. My guess is that will happen... never. :( In principle, you could even build a Tesla-to-CHAdeMO adapter -- the reverse of Tesla's own CHAdeMO-to-Tesla -- that spoke the older protocol and worked even with V2 SCs. Such devices are rumored to exist... but will never be authorized, I'm afraid. :(
@@KenJohnson-d4p thanks, my in-laws got into a used 2020 Bolt EV last year. They don't use public charging but I will take them to a station to try this.
The Tesla app and Plugshare both let you set the Bolt up with a NACS adapter. Then they will only show you the Superchargers that can be used (not the V1 and V2s). The Tesla app will also put a note on the charger page indicating when an adapter is required versus Magic Dock.
PlugShare app DOES NOT allow you to distinguish between the Tesla chargers that CAN and CANNOT charge non-Tesla vehicle. It only shows whether the station allows non-Tesla vehicles AFTER the stations get mapped. There is no way to set a filter to only display the newer V3 stations that allow non-Tesla vehicles!!
Have any of you noticed that not all of the V3 Superchargers show up when you go to the Tesla app, click on "Charge Your Other EV", and then you see the map and the list of V3 chargers and there are just some missing. I noticed that one of the missing had a mixture of V2 and V3 chargers while the one that showed up was all V3. I need to verify with other chargers to see it thats consistent.
My guess is that Tesla will keep a few V3's exclusive to Teslas only. Part of it is to make it more accessible to Tesla owners, and mostly it's to avoid confusion by non-Tesla EV owners who are trying to use a V2 but can't get it to charge. One example I can think of is Limon, CO. It originally had 6 V2 stalls, but then Tesla later added 8 V3 stalls there. It doesn't show up on Tesla's Supercharger website when you select "Superchargers open to NACS" Winnemucca, NV is another site like this. They have 4 older V2 stalls there, and 4 V3 stalls, but it's not listed under the ones open for NACS. An interesting site is in Quartzite, AZ. It started out as an 8 stall V2 site. Tesla later added 28 V3's there. Currently those aren't open to NACS according to Tesla's website. However, very close by there's an 84 stall site, which is open for NACS vehicles. So there shouldn't be an issue going there and finding a spot. It's massive because it's approximately the halfway point for someone going from Los Angeles, CA to Phoenix, AZ, two major cities in the Southwest US. Meanwhile, Electrify America has 4 stalls in that same city.
Tom, we can never trust you again after this gaff! Just joking, you can only report what you observe/test and what information manufacturers provide you with. Disappointing that GM botched the comms on the Bolt Supercharger compatibility like this.
@mowcowbell those cars have such limited range and slow charging, and very few will be used on long road trips. Level 2 chargers will be sufficient for most owners that don't charge at home.
Since no one else has been giving an actualy reply, the answer is unfortunately no. The spark EV was one of the first cars ever built with a CCS port but its design doesn't work with a lot of the more recent DC fast charging stations. This includes Tesla as well. Not sure if the issue is the port design or the communication with the charger. But Chevy has stated that it is incompatible.
Question, if we buy the subscription from Tesla at $12.99 will the GM app recognize the discount when we charge via GM?? Can we start a charge on the Tesla app??? Please make a video about this.
My 2017 Chevrolet Bolt does not have CCS1 port and only set up with a Level 2 port. Will a NACS adapter rated at 80amp work with the Tesla Supercharger?
We need to learn to slow down and also plan our time if we want to comtinuing using eletrical cars. Why the rush? Have y'all noticed that people are on a hurry for what? To go home and seat on their sofa or bed and be on their phones.😂😂😂 relex and enjoy the ride stress never help and will not help. Drive with respect and resposability. Remember, we are all on this together.
Tesla (maybe with some funding by GM, other automakers, and maybe with some of the government funding available for charging infrastructure) will need to fairly quickly upgrade all supercharger stations with longer cords so that EVs with charge ports on the front left side (there are a lot on the road) can charge while only using one stall. Without the longer cords on the on these chargers, there is going to be a lot of unhappy drivers at the busier supercharger locations.
@@EpicDrew15 no, because he states you can’t tell which chargers to go to that will work on a GM car. If he is aware the myChevrolet app’s route planner does, he wouldn’t have said that.
Easy as gas? Hmmm let me see....I'm going to bed as my '24 M3P is charging in the garage. When I wake up it'll have full charge. Hmmmm easy as gas? Wow I don't know about that. I do miss having my credit card hacked when I hand it to the attendent though(I'm in NJ so you'll need to understand}. So I guess....nope, not as easy as gas.
@@guru2899the situation he is talking about is for going over 500 mile when on vacation….some folks don’t like multiple stops to charge….I don’t like to sightsee at rest stops….stretch for 20 minutes whereas walk to the bathroom is enough time….no need for 20 minutes or 30 minutes time wasted….we will move to EV once it can charge in 5 mins or less from 20% to 80%…tech is still too slow
@consolemaster it's more about when I stop at a stop, not having to use an app to start charging. I just want to tap my card and go. I work on Healthcare and I don't mind the 30 min stops every 3 hours or so. Prevents clots that could turn into life threatening pulmonary embolism especially as I get older. I very much get not a lot of people care about that, but I don't mind.
Charged my 2023 Bolt EUV with my A2Z today with no problems. Very easy to use the Tesla App.
Thanks, Tom! 6:03 One of the issues with the Bolt EV (and why I kept pushing GM to offer an upgraded 200 A CCS harness) is that it draws power for battery conditioning and climate control directly from the charger, but because the cable/harness is current-limited (150 A), the additional power reduces the charging rate rather than increasing the power drawn from the charger. To me, that was a big missed opportunity by GM to increase the Bolt EV's average charging rate below 50% battery by about 10% to 15% and shave about 5 to 10 minutes off the 10% to 80% charging time.
I just emailed you to tell you about this video 😂 I tried to comment on your video yesterday but YT blocked it for some reason.
@@thayne559 I think UA-cam automatically blocks/flags any comments with links now.
@@newscoulomb3705 Ah, I see. Thanks.
right now, Bolt owners are jubilant but once they see no of Bolts charging & no of Bolts waiting-it's gonna be brutal:)
@@tashi282 I doubt this will be the case. Busy stations will be busy, regardless, and the Bolt EVs are going to have zero impact on the length of the queues.
Hertz is selling off much their Bolt inventory. 2023 bolt with 20k miles for $19k. Giving them the ability to charge at Tesla SCs completely eliminates range anxiety and makes the Bolt somewhat road-trip worthy. There is finally an inexpensive long range EV now!
I bought my 2022 bolt 3 months ago for $13,800 from hurtz . Prices have gone up !
The Bolt is not road trip worthy with a 50 kW charge rate. All this will do is increase charger congestion. Big battery + slow charging is not a recipe for success. Believe me, I know...I have an I-Pace with a similar limitation.
It's 50kw charging dont be charging on v3 superchargers. V2 or less is fine
@@bwmanarific can only use V3 according to the video.
@@mystreteacher oh god oh noooo
It doesn't matter where you charge. The Bolt is one of the slowest charging vehicles in the market. A great cheap EV runabout if you charge at home. A very good measure of your patience if you are road tripping. A great city/suburb EV if you are on a budget and can charge mostly at home.
@@Wised1000 Yup, the Bolt EUV compliments my current situation. My wife and I have a 2024 RAV4 hybrid (hers) and a 2008 Chrysler T&C with 70000 miles on it that acts as pickup or travel vehical when needed. The Bolt is typically to work and around the town.
I've had my Bolt for 6 months now and done 5 road trips, defined by me as needing at least one charge mid-trip. It is not ideal, but it's not that bad either. My longest trip was 600 miles. My longest charge was 33 minutes. I never charge on the road above 60% because up to 60% it charges at the full rate of 55 kW. That said, it does take a little patience and a mindset adjustment. Is it really that bad to stop every 3.5 hours for 20 to 30 minutes; use the bathroom, get a bite to eat, catch up on texts and emails? If so, it is not the right car for road tripping.
@john.powers
I live in the upper Midwest, and there are lots of Bolts. The only time their range gets dicey its when its below zero and range drops to 120 miles or so. Yet again, if that's well within your daily drive its a a great solution.
That's what the BOLT was originally designed for. 10 years ago!!!!. Even for intercity travel, it does a fine job. We have family members 170 miles away. I charge it at 100% and it's plenty to get there.
I think the BZ4X has this beat. Sure they are rated for higher charging, but from what I've seen they typically charge at 30kw or so. I mostly know this from watching pissed off BZ4X and Solterra owners at a Charge Point I go to frequently.
Here we come🐢!! I never go past 70% with my Bolt on fast chargers and I stay away from the high speed chargers. But I’ve seen plenty of Teslas sitting at full on our “non Tesla chargers” right beside empty Tesla chargers because I assume ours are cheaper, despite being unreliable and annoying to use. I will make sure to park in the far spot so as not to take up 2 locations and avoid when busy but this will be nice to have in a pinch. There is a town in BC Canada where there are often waits on long weekends while the Tesla spots sit empty. Make a Model 2 and I might join the cult😁
Nah, we don't need you to join the cult if all it takes is a Model 2. Model 3 or Y ain't good enough for you but a Bolt is???????
Those are nice cars but the price wasn’t even close up here and as I couldn’t buy a Zeeker or a Geeley it was the best cost option. And I have more storage for inflatable paddle boards and gear than the 3. And the regen paddle is fun in the mountains AND I only fast charge on holidays.
Don’t worry I’ll only use them as a last resort😁
Nope. Tesla never go to none Tesla chargers. Please don’t go to Tesla chargers if you don’t drive a Tesla. Thanks
We own a 2020 and 2019 BOLT EV and both are charging at Tesla Superchargers with no problem. We are using the Lectron Vortex Adapters. All is working well.
Love that powder blue color.
Ice Blue FTW!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyI saw one on carfax and I had an out of body experience
I charged my 2020 Bolt on a supercharger tonight with an A2Z Typhoon adapter. I had called my dealer ahead of time and gave them my VIN. They couldn't tell me if I needed an update. They recommended I try it. I did and it worked fine and ran cool to the touch.
Great...now I have to wait over an hour for a Bolt to charge at the SC. Wait to go Mary! You did it!
always a whiner out there.
I thought the same as @guru2899. What kind idiot came up with this idea. Let’s allow a car to use the SC, only it has to be one of the slowest charging vehicles, it can only use the faster chargers (that it can’t take advantage of) AND it has to take up 2 slots. What a genius idea. No offense to Bolt owners or their cars. Just disappointed in the decision-making leadership here. It’s like someone is intentionally trying to engineer a condition ripe for road rage.
What does Mary have to do with this. Ignorance is sometimes amazing!!!. This car was designed in 2015 with commuting and city driving. The same goes for USB stick capacities, hard drives, etc. What do you expect?
Normally only charge for 35minutes. I have never charge for an hour even to 100%.
What about ford and rivian? Smh
I've heard that it's much faster to initiate charging with the Tesla app. Love to see a comparison between the two. Saving 20 seconds actually is important to me. I do road trip occasionally with my BoltEV and love plug and charge with the Flo Network in Canada. My family abandons me as I'm fiddling with apps when I'm not on Flo, LOL. Thanks, Tom for another great video.
Road trip with a Bolt???? Are you insane?????
@@guru2899, I've done quite a few 500-mile trips alone. But doing it with the family in tow is out of the question.
Having Access to Tesla superchargers makes me so much more comfortable about the idea of driving my Cadillac Lyriq on road trips.
I have 2 years free of EV go.
Now I have access to Tesla 😍
I just received my adapter from GM (it is the Tesla Adapter) and charged my 23 Bolt EUV with out any problems. I tested this using both the GM app and the Tesla app, both worked just fine.
How did you get it so fast?
@@roberthoward6032 I must tell you I was shocked when the Dealer called me and left a message that my part was ready. I had preordered it online, but, gm cancelled the order a couple of weeks later. So, I thought I was out of luck. So, it was pure luck that the adapter actually arrived. Just Luck.
Do you get the same price per kWh when you activate the charge session from the myChevrolet vs the Tesla app (I assume that's what you've tried)?
@@nathanscandella6075 yes
@@nathanscandella6075 Probably, I did not pay attention to the price, I was simply too excited to be charging at a Tesla Supercharger. I did notice that I was able to charge my Bolt EUV at just over 50kw. Which for a Bolt with a 55kw max is pretty good. Note: I only charged for several minutes using each app because I really did not need to get a full charge.
Tried out Equinox EV last night at a charger after we got our adapter. Had to park like a jerk, taking up two spaces. Went from 31% to 75% (spots were filling up and we felt bad, so we didn't go to 80%) in about 25 minutes. Was awesome and only cost about $20.
That’s pretty expensive. If you have 315 miles of capacity then you added 138 miles of range. So that is 0.14$ per mile. A gas car that gets 35 mpg paying 3.05$ per gallon (that’s the price where I’m living) would be paying $0.087 per mile. So the supercharger is 60% more expensive than gasoline. The economics are even better for a Prius hybrid. If you can’t charge from home, the EV is more expensive.
@@mongo64071 Your example isn't quite apples to apples. We don't know where they were charging. $20 for 44% of range is about $0.57 per kWh, quite expensive so that could be in California, where gas is about $5 per gallon. Also Equinox EV produces 290hp and 346 lb⋅ft torque, a comparable gas car won't get 35 mpg, more like 25.
@@alexgirniak8606 even at 25 mpg, gasoline per mile would cost me 0.12$ per mile. Still cheaper than the EV equivalent vehicle.
@@alexgirniak8606 even at 25 mpg, my cost would be 0.12$ per mile. Still cheaper than the EV. I don’t know how much the performance aspect factors into the EV decision calculus. I think that a lot of people are buying these to save money rather than do burnouts. The most comparable thing therefore is a hybrid like, the RAV4 hybrid that gets 39 mpg. In that case, the RAV4 would be a better deal.
Also, the UK Telegraph just did an article last week that showed the running cost of an EV in UK is twice that of an equivalent diesel vehicle. So the comparison holds true over there as well.
Thanks for the video, Bolt is the most popular EV from GM. I wish the charging curve is 10 to 90 percent
just charged my 2020 bolt on a v3 supercharger last night.
How long did it take?
@@bwmanarific the charging? I didn't stay. Just tested real quick. Took a few seconds to start the charge. But I did it from the Tesla app.
What adapter did you use?
@@Evan_Land a to z
Thank you for the Link/Discount for the A2Z Pro Typhoon Adapter. I followed the link and got the discount. It arrived within two days. My 2020 Bolt did need a Dealer Installed Software Update. CARR Chevrolet of Beaverton, Oregon did the Software Update and did not charge me. I then went to a Tesla Supercharger Station. It worked with the Tesla App. The MyChevrolet App was a trainwreck. I highly recommend using the Tesla App.
Excellent information.
I appreciate you walking us through specific steps to charge on the Tesla supercharger 👍😊
I'm so glad, we in Europe, can use SuC already a long time.
Also just tested a new V4 stall near my hind on my ELW Livewire. It's a blast to utilize these chargers.
I have a 2017 Bolt EV and did my test charge today 9/21/24 probably while this video was uploading and the biggest problem I had was getting positioned in the parking stall. I was able to get into a spot to the right of the last charger so not taking two spots, I just wasn't quite close enough on my first try, now I know.
Thank you, do you have to have onstar subscription to charge? My 17 hasn’t had onstar turned on, so I can’t access “public charging” section of the app
@@ryanthomas9685 nope, I do not have the paid OnStar. I do however have my car connected to OnStar. I will admit that I am going to try out the Tesla app because I don't really like the Chevrolet app all that much.
@@ryanthomas9685 no OnStar required. Just Cellphone app.
An adapter with extension cable all-in-one would the thing to have.
@@ericracine6305 Maybe if there was a reasonably safe one available today.
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Great video Tom! My Lectron adapter arrived yesterday, looking forward to trying it out at a Supercharger with our Bolt EUV this weekend. It's just nice to know there will be extra reliable charging options available to us now, even though I rarely need to DCFC.
Great video. Just a note of added clarification heat in the adapter is more related to amps than just KW. So an Equinox EV pulling 500A (300V) at 150KW will generate more heat in the adapter than another EV pulling 375A at 400V (150KW). Heat generated in the connector is proportional to the current squared times the contact resistance across the adapter.
You can use the Tesla app and it will tell you what stations you can use when you input your vehicle.
Also in google maps you can change what plugs your car can use. Though my Blazer EV still shows it as incompatible in the infotainment screen (and didn't auto pre-condition)
Correct. Luckily the Equinox is only capable of pulling its max current for 8-10 minutes before it massively derates
Happy for you! Hope it happens for me before too long, but… not holding my breath. And frankly, I've had such encouraging experiences at other DCFC sites, that I will only use a Supercharger when I have no other choice.
Thanks, Tom! Just ordered a Typhoon Pro for my '23 EUV with the discount code!
Thinking of doing a road trip next month with my bolt and got an adapter, and didnt know i need to also comsider if the tesla is V2. Thanks for that info. I'll do some testing before next month to see how things work.
V2 and earlier is Chademo communications. Tesla then adopted CCS communications but kept their plug/port design with V3 and later. CCS vehicle manufacturers for the US market are doing the opposite: keeping the CCS communications but adopting the Tesla plug/port design.
Using the Tesla app (and I assume the my Chevy app) will show you only v3, v3+ compatible chargers.
Excellent! Please let us know when other manufacturers can charge on Superchargers - in my family we have a VW ID.4 as well as a 2017 Bolt EV.
And thank you for the coupon codes to buy these adapters!
Thanks Tom, great video
General Motors, my 2nd favorite general, right after Schwarzkopf
For new EV drivers, supercharger dispensers should have a sticker or signage indicating if they’re V2 or V3 etc.
Yes I agree. I have no idea by looking at the charger.
@@karensandberg6226 V2 superchargers have a silvery ring around the cable at the handle.
The Tesla app allows you to add your vehicle by going to the hamburger menu on the top right when you open the app. Then choose “charging” > “vehicle details”. From there hit the “+” sign to add a vehicle to your account profile.
When done just back out to the home screen and it’ll search for chargers compatible with your vehicle and if it requires an adapter or not. Don’t forget to add or update your payment info to make your first charge a little more smoother.
@@karensandberg6226 @pennyharris446 The thickness of the cable is a dead giveaway. Once you see a V2 and V3 SuC you will recognize the skinnier cables of the V3 stalls immediately.
If you set up the Tesla app for (e.g.) your Bolt, it won't even show incompatible SCs on the map. On PlugShare, compatible SCs will say "Open to non-Teslas" (V3+) or "Tesla only" (V2-). But yeah, without an app, I dunno.
I have called five dealerships in my city just to see if they can tell me if I need the update on my 2019.
1st dealer - didn't seem to know what I was talking about and sounded annoyed by it. Was told that the car needed to be there to check for software updates.
2nd dealer - Operator said all lines are busy
3rd dealer - Phone just rang and rang and rang, no answer.
4th dealer - Phone just rang and rang , then went to voicemail. (tried twice, same result)
5th dealer - Told me "the guy who would know had already left for the weekend"
Same here my local dealership had no idea about the software update. In fact they seemed to think I was talking about some 3rd party unauthorized update and told me it would cost $200 for them to install and would void my vehicle warranty. At this point I may just get the adapter and try it out anyway.
@@philipcurtis9983
I would try it but, (I have an A2Z adapter ready to use) but I read that without the software (if needed) could cause “error codes”. If i get one of these error codes would it prevent me from charging all together and require a dealership visit to reset? Don’t want to risk it.
@@mewtwo255200 I don't know but perhaps the worst that would happen would be it simply won't change. At least you would know for sure if you even need a software update.
Just get your adapter and see for yourself. If there's some kind of an issue, then bring it in for an update.
@@mewtwo255200- if no charge, the failure to charge should not “brick” the car.
My brother has a 2020 bolt we will keep you updated
I’ve enjoyed my bolt, and this does alleviate concerns of mine when going a bit far in my travels, but more than likely I’m gonna steer clear of Tesla SCs because I can’t just see the looks I’d get, and charging at a public setting is already stressful enough, either way, good luck to those who are braver than I!!
I doubt you'll get any looks unless the station is completely full, and your Bolt is essentially taking up two spots because of the parking issue mentioned in the video. At least with the Tesla app (which I think you can sign up for without owning a Tesla vehicle, should be able to use it just for charging), you can see how full the station is before you go there. Mostly unused stalls, I bet no-one cares. [FTR, I own a Bolt and a Tesla, no partisanship here]
Charging my 23 bolt EUV with lectron adapter works fine thanks Tom
Do you have OnStar?
Unfortunately, only a couple of V3 superchargers north of Detroit, Ann Arbor, and Grand Rapids in the Lower Peninsula. There's few in the UP.
The bolt is so small and narrow that you can angle it in at the v3 and not take up another stall…try that jenga move!
I had no problem fitting it into a single space and charging from there, but, that's not the issue. The problem is that the space you have to park in to do it is (in most Supercharger layouts) one space over to the right from the space that's "supposed" to belong to the charger. So, unless you're on the rightmost end of a string of chargers, you end up blocking one of the chargers, from the perspective of a Tesla driver. (On the other hand, for another Bolt, it's no problem.)
@@wmcbrine I think the person is saying that a Bolt is so narrow that if you park in the stall Teslas normally park in, but park head-in pointing diagonally toward the back-right corner, the cable will reach, and your back-left corner won't even be in the next stall. You just need to angle the charge port so it's roughly in the middle of the stall, rather than on the left, as it would be if you parked straight (head-) in.
I foolishly ordered the GM adapter for $250 after taxes and delivery fee (I know, there’s a code, but where to enter it wasn’t obvious, if there at all), but it’s back ordered ! The local Bolt dealer said it’ll only work on the 2023 model (mine), not the 2024! What? What brand is the GM adapter, and should I cancel my order and buy one of Tom’s 3rd party adapters? Is there really any harm in buying a third-party adapter?
2022 bolts works fine.
Yesterday, I was successful in charging a Hertz rental bolt with my A2Z adaptor with the manual lock.
It charges about the same speed as my 2015 Tesla Model S...
On my 2022 charge at a Tesla v3 yesterday 80% to full was 49 Minutes.
When you say there's currently no way to tell if charger is compatible that's not entirely true, if you use the Tesla app and tell it you have an adapter then it will show you all compatible Superchargers, you can then send it to your routing app of choice.
I stand corrected. I wasn't thinking of the Tesla app. Thanks.
OK, Tom. So for my 2017 Bolt EV, I gather that my destination adapter (Lectron Tesla to J1772 Adapter, Max 40A & 250V - Compatible with Tesla High Powered Connector, Destination Charger, and Mobile Connector) is not usable, & I need to buy one of the three approved adapters in order to use the Tesla superchargers. And the new, approved DC fast charger adapters will also work with destination chargers, correct? Thanks for your help.😮
So the adapter you have is for AC charging and the adapter you need for Superchargers is exclusively a DC adapter. Neither will work on the other systems, so you'll need to keep your current AC adapter in the car also.
Thank you for mentioning the stall vs. charge port position issue! 🤓
Thank you, Tom!
Tom, I thought you might find this interesting. We have only one Supercharger site in the Bakersfield California area. It’s about a year new. It does not show up on my Chevy app, but it does on my Tesla app. I have test charged there twice using an A2Z adapter and it worked fine. Tesla processed my credit card both times. This Tesla location has some stalls set up for vehicle’s with charge ports in different locations than Tesla’s, but they were full of Teslas using them because they don’t have to back in. So, I had to tie up 2 stalls! A very nice Tesla owner came over to let me know I was using the wrong charger for my stall. He had no idea what I was dealing with before I explained. In fun I suggested he counsel the Tesla owners who could have charged in my type stall and left the more accessible ones for others. While I was charging it got quite busy. When it dawned on me that I was grossly outnumbered I decided it was prudent to leave. 😅
I have a 2023 Bolt euv and wondering as far as an adapter for the tesla charge out of all of them which one do you think would be the best all around as far as how it fits, efficency and price. Much appreciate it!
Thx for the coupon code!
Thanks Tom! I took our 19 Bolt in for the software upgrade the morning this video dropped. I took two hours. Not sure if it was really two hours or it took time for the tech to get to it. I ordered the A2Z adapter with your code today as well. I don't think we'll use SuC that often as our Bolt is a local commuter car as my wife's daily driver. But having access to V3's makes life easier and less stressful. It opens the Bolt to longer distances if needed. I told my wife (half jokingly) if she were ever to get flak from a Tesla owner, tell them we also also own a Tesla, the stock and Elon invited us. We've supercharged hundreds of times and only had one instance where the SuC was full and had to wait 3 minutes. But that would have been awkward as a Bolt owner taking two stalls.
Curious, did you get an email from GM about needing the update? Also when was your 2019 manufactured? Thanks.
@@mewtwo255200 No, I did not see an email. When I saw the news I called my Chevy dealer (the same one who did the battery swap) and made an appointment. Ours is a 8/18 build but a 2019 Model year.
@@epcalderhead
Thanks, my 2019 was built on 12/18. I was just trying to see if date of manufacture determined if a 2019 needed the update or not. I also didn’t receive an email.
@@mewtwo255200 We probably could have taken our Bolts to a Tesla SuC sans the update and it would have worked. 😉 I found this on GMAuthority:
"In addition, some Chevy Bolt EVs will require a software update to use a Tesla Supercharger.
“Select Bolt EVs (mostly MY19 and MY20) may require a software update to ensure seamless charging at a Tesla Supercharger,” GM states. “Those customers can order a GM approved NACS DC adapter through their GM vehicle brand apps and contact their Chevrolet dealership to schedule this complimentary software update.”
Owners who require the update will receive an email notification informing them of such, however, any customer who is unsure is encouraged to contact their local dealer to assess if a software update is indeed required."
I find it strange that it does not mention MY 17 and 18 Bolts.
Great video. Side question. What is cost to charge at this supercharger?
Price is different by location
It varies by location AND the time of day you charge
Which one is better? Typhoon or Vortex? Which one should I get?
The new A2Z has a dual top button and no longer requires a slide lock on the bottom. Just got my adapter from them.
Correct. That's the one I used in the video
Hello! Which attachment would you recommend for a 2023 Bolt EV LT? Thinking about the $197 offer with 10% off with your code. Thanks for reply in advance.
The A2Z Typhoon Pro is what I usually use: a2zevshop.com/?ref=lsh8xAcYPb..
This is going to be interesting come January for me. Driving from Chicago to Tampa. Will use Tesla is I have to but I will watch for EVgo, Electrify America and Charge Point. But I won't have to bypass the Tesla stops anymore.
Took my 2019 to the dealer today for the update. They said no update was necessary, "unless I had trouble charging". 🤷♂
Thanks Tom!
I have an '18, and the app (android) doesn't have a map option. Is there something else I need? I plan to use the Tesla app, but it would be nice to have this too.
Supposedly, the initial charging speed of my 2019 Leaf ChaDeMo is 100 kW. Although it is used as a daily driver (perfect use for it) I wish there was an adapter for the rare case where a round trip to rural setting is 20 miles too far, but has a Tesla L2 destination charger at a good restaurant at the destination. Being able to add 25 miles while enjoying excellent fried chicken and hot rolls would save me from needing to use the ICE.
I don't think we're going to see many bolts at SC's. It's a nice to have option for bolts in a pinch.
There are a significant number of 2019~2020 Bolt owners mentioning dealerships wanting to charge for the software update, despite GM's email to these owners that it should be 'complimentary'. Hopefully this gets corrected soon as it seems this was not properly communicated to the dealers.
FWIW: The '20 Bolt and '23 Bolt EUV stop charging at 78% whenever I set the charge limit to "80%". Not sure if you set the limit on the car, but that is what I've always noticed :)
@StateOfCharge When you talked to GM about charging did you mention the equinox? I really want to buy one but with its issue with DC fast charging I will not be able to road trip with it. I would need to take the model 3 which isn't ideal for my family.
Tom, i have a '23 EUV with the in-dash GPS. Do you know if GM is working on an update to add Tesla fast chargers to GPS? That would be a huge help when travelling. Thank you for all of the information you provided in this episode. Ill be back in touch for the correct Level 3 garage charger for my Bolt. -Todd
Thanks Tom.
I charged my 2019 Bolt LT on a Supercharger with the A2Z Typhoon adapter. Had a little trouble getting the NACS plug locked into the adapter but once I did started charging quickly with no problems. I used the Tesla app as I already had it installed when I charged at a Supercharger Magic Dock a couple months ago. Did not get a software update.
Can’t wait to frustrate Tesla owners at the V3s….btw I have two teslas but now I can road trip the Bolt more due to the increased charging network!
So... You're gonna frustrate yourself? 😂
Yup! 😂
Hey to , iam having a issue with mt GM app, even after activation of Tesla on mt app and ended up ordering the NACS adapter , the app do not list the Tesla charger close to me which is a 250kw. I tried doing all the troubleshooting ,but I could not use the GM app to charge my car, I was able to use the Tesla app to charge my car.
2017 Bolt here. I didn’t keep Onstar active once it timed out, and I don’t use a data package, since my phone has mobile hotspot and lots of data. Perhaps this is the reason the Mychevy app doesn’t update? Should be able to use the Tesla app to charge with. I know that I’ve used it without issue to charge rented Teslas numerous times.
Do you need to have an onstar subscription to see the map icon on the Chevy app and start a charge? I don’t see the map icon on my app but also don’t have an onstar subscription.
Same here. No map, no onstar. Also wondering. I did make sure the app was up to date (android phone).
@@evanhil02 no onstar required with my chevyApp.
I pick up a used 2023 Bolt EUV tomorrow so i'm cramming to learn as much as possible. This is also my first EV. First question, what is that ChEVrolet app you are showing? Is it the My Chevrolet app in the ios app store? I also need a charge cable so your site is very welcome to find.
Rivian will be.sending me an adapter at some point. Will it work with my Bolt?
I’m about to buy an adapter for my 2017 Bolt. So are the non-GM adapters, Lectron and Typhoon pro, any significant differences or pretty much a toss up and choose the cheaper option? Thanks!
Pretty much a toss up. With my coupon code the A2Z now costs slightly less though.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks, Tom! Though I tried both sites and Lectron discount was a little better. Though A2Z didn’t add. tax? Perhaps that’s why? Take care, great channel!
Is there any way to prevent the adapter from being stolen while you are getting coffee/in the bathroom?
Cmon nissan ❤ bring the leaf to the table
Hmm, tricky... you could get a CCS-to-CHAdeMO adapter, and charge it at a Magic Dock Supercharger, since they're open to all. You could theoretically stack the C-to-C with a different NACS-to-CCS adapter for use at a V3 SC, but it won't work, because Tesla hasn't authorized the Leaf. My guess is that will happen... never. :( In principle, you could even build a Tesla-to-CHAdeMO adapter -- the reverse of Tesla's own CHAdeMO-to-Tesla -- that spoke the older protocol and worked even with V2 SCs. Such devices are rumored to exist... but will never be authorized, I'm afraid. :(
In a previous video you said use the Tesla App to setup the Charge not The Chevy App! What is right? I have a 2023 Bolt EUV
What adapter do you recommend?
The A2Z Typhoon Pro is what I usually use: a2zevshop.com/?ref=lsh8xAcYPb..
I would add a video (or update this one), to show charging from the Tesla app.
Can you initiate the charge thru the Tesla app or do you have to use the Chevy app?
Either one will work.
@@KenJohnson-d4p thanks, my in-laws got into a used 2020 Bolt EV last year. They don't use public charging but I will take them to a station to try this.
Yes
My 2023 Bolt EUV always stops 2% before the set limit. Has done this always from day 1 even with AC home charging.
10/10 would plug that
The Tesla app and Plugshare both let you set the Bolt up with a NACS adapter. Then they will only show you the Superchargers that can be used (not the V1 and V2s). The Tesla app will also put a note on the charger page indicating when an adapter is required versus Magic Dock.
PlugShare app DOES NOT allow you to distinguish between the Tesla chargers that CAN and CANNOT charge non-Tesla vehicle. It only shows whether the station allows non-Tesla vehicles AFTER the stations get mapped.
There is no way to set a filter to only display the newer V3 stations that allow non-Tesla vehicles!!
Have any of you noticed that not all of the V3 Superchargers show up when you go to the Tesla app, click on "Charge Your Other EV", and then you see the map and the list of V3 chargers and there are just some missing. I noticed that one of the missing had a mixture of V2 and V3 chargers while the one that showed up was all V3. I need to verify with other chargers to see it thats consistent.
My guess is that Tesla will keep a few V3's exclusive to Teslas only. Part of it is to make it more accessible to Tesla owners, and mostly it's to avoid confusion by non-Tesla EV owners who are trying to use a V2 but can't get it to charge.
One example I can think of is Limon, CO. It originally had 6 V2 stalls, but then Tesla later added 8 V3 stalls there. It doesn't show up on Tesla's Supercharger website when you select "Superchargers open to NACS"
Winnemucca, NV is another site like this. They have 4 older V2 stalls there, and 4 V3 stalls, but it's not listed under the ones open for NACS.
An interesting site is in Quartzite, AZ. It started out as an 8 stall V2 site. Tesla later added 28 V3's there. Currently those aren't open to NACS according to Tesla's website. However, very close by there's an 84 stall site, which is open for NACS vehicles. So there shouldn't be an issue going there and finding a spot. It's massive because it's approximately the halfway point for someone going from Los Angeles, CA to Phoenix, AZ, two major cities in the Southwest US.
Meanwhile, Electrify America has 4 stalls in that same city.
Bth my EV’s require 2 stalls and that not cool. A Tesla extension cable will be great! Please keep us posted on that!
Tom, we can never trust you again after this gaff! Just joking, you can only report what you observe/test and what information manufacturers provide you with. Disappointing that GM botched the comms on the Bolt Supercharger compatibility like this.
How does using the MyChevrolet App for charging compare to using the Tesla app?
It's faster and easier through the Tesla app
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney appreciate the frank honesty
Will a Spark EV charge at one?
Are any of those vehicles still on the roads? I would guess no they wouldn't charge on a Tesla supercharger.
No
If you can push it to the charger, it should charge
@mowcowbell those cars have such limited range and slow charging, and very few will be used on long road trips. Level 2 chargers will be sufficient for most owners that don't charge at home.
Since no one else has been giving an actualy reply, the answer is unfortunately no.
The spark EV was one of the first cars ever built with a CCS port but its design doesn't work with a lot of the more recent DC fast charging stations. This includes Tesla as well. Not sure if the issue is the port design or the communication with the charger. But Chevy has stated that it is incompatible.
The other thought I have is that it could be nice to have a NACS adapter as charging companies like EVgo transition away from installing CCS1.
Where do I purchase the adapter ?
So when will the industry make one national navigation database so you can find station in car and dont have to use pluginshare?
CarPlay PlugShare :)
Question, if we buy the subscription from Tesla at $12.99 will the GM app recognize the discount when we charge via GM?? Can we start a charge on the Tesla app??? Please make a video about this.
It won't recognize it, but, you CAN start the charge from the Tesla app. They bill independently (separate setups).
No, you'll need to use the Tesla app to get the lower rate
Do I need OnStar for this?
No OnStar needed.
Our family just bought a used 2020 Bolt. When we installed the myChevrolet app, it will not work at all without an OnStar subscription.
Great! I see this at EA and EVgo where slow charging cars use the 350kw cabinets. Now I’ll see it at 250kw Tesla chargers 😂 🙈
Good to know that GM has such intimate knowledge of their own vehicles 🙄
Can this be done without the Chevy app? Any alternative apps?
Tesla app
It looks like only a 2 foot extension cord would allow you to pull up in the correct position in a Tesla stall.
Will 2025 non-tesla vehicals with NACS have access tesla V2 superchargers?
No, they use a different protocol that is not compatible with the j3400 standard, and not with CCS vehicles.
I hope people will utilize proper charging etiquette
My 2017 Chevrolet Bolt does not have CCS1 port and only set up with a Level 2 port. Will a NACS adapter rated at 80amp work with the Tesla Supercharger?
No, your Bolt is missing the high-speed pins and internal architecture needed to accept DC power.
@@michaelbettencourt6989thanks!
We need to learn to slow down and also plan our time if we want to comtinuing using eletrical cars. Why the rush? Have y'all noticed that people are on a hurry for what? To go home and seat on their sofa or bed and be on their phones.😂😂😂 relex and enjoy the ride stress never help and will not help. Drive with respect and resposability. Remember, we are all on this together.
Tesla (maybe with some funding by GM, other automakers, and maybe with some of the government funding available for charging infrastructure) will need to fairly quickly upgrade all supercharger stations with longer cords so that EVs with charge ports on the front left side (there are a lot on the road) can charge while only using one stall. Without the longer cords on the on these chargers, there is going to be a lot of unhappy drivers at the busier supercharger locations.
MyChevrolet app does show the Tesla chargers on its route planner that your GM EV can charge at.
@@EpicDrew15 no, because he states you can’t tell which chargers to go to that will work on a GM car. If he is aware the myChevrolet app’s route planner does, he wouldn’t have said that.
The whole v2/v3/v4 compatibility thing is hokey.
Do you think they will ever make charging as easy as gas?
Yes. Probably in 10 years or more. NOt sure how fast it will ramp up, but, looking at the state of things, I don't think it will happen anytime soon.
Easy as gas? Hmmm let me see....I'm going to bed as my '24 M3P is charging in the garage. When I wake up it'll have full charge. Hmmmm easy as gas? Wow I don't know about that. I do miss having my credit card hacked when I hand it to the attendent though(I'm in NJ so you'll need to understand}. So I guess....nope, not as easy as gas.
@@guru2899the situation he is talking about is for going over 500 mile when on vacation….some folks don’t like multiple stops to charge….I don’t like to sightsee at rest stops….stretch for 20 minutes whereas walk to the bathroom is enough time….no need for 20 minutes or 30 minutes time wasted….we will move to EV once it can charge in 5 mins or less from 20% to 80%…tech is still too slow
@consolemaster it's more about when I stop at a stop, not having to use an app to start charging. I just want to tap my card and go. I work on Healthcare and I don't mind the 30 min stops every 3 hours or so. Prevents clots that could turn into life threatening pulmonary embolism especially as I get older. I very much get not a lot of people care about that, but I don't mind.
@guru2899 it's for longer trips. Having to dl an app doesn't really make your info any safer. I really just want to stop, tap then go.