What Is A Patch Over? PagansMC I Heathens MC
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2021
- Today we talk about Patch overs! What is a patch over? a1%er patch over We use a situation with the heathens MC patching over to the Pagans MC. This is biker news you wont want to miss!
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I remember in 2016, my club was helping out the dominant club of my country on an international event that they organised. So, there was this club that came all the way to Crete from the neighbouring country of Albania, I was actually one of the team that picked them up from the airport, to join in at the event. The very next night at the party, they came without their patches on their cuts, but with prospect patches of the dominant club. It was nice, in the end they became a prospect chapter, so by now they must be flying full colors. Very good fellas all of them.
So, this was the patchover story that I have seen. I have heard of another patchover where the club got full colors, but I wasn't there to witness it. From what I understand so far is that every situation is different, even in patchovers.
As always, thank you for this video! Also, I saw that it was your birthday yesterday. Happy birthday and best wishes for health and happiness from Crete! Much love my friend!
Great points ive never seen a prospect patchover that makes alot of sense
Support Clubs really help the 1% clubs... Support your local 16’s you don’t realize how much they really do......... Even 1% have normal lives!! I’m the daughter of one of the toughest legends 1% 1613.... Always A’s daughter... HEY SOSE much love keep it going and like always thank for the knowledge, love and support ♥️
Much love always steph. Much respect to pop!
Maine needs a local 16 chapter!
I ain’t supporting no oneeeeeee that don’t help the black community
Support 16 and love 20
As i have told you before i've been in a few clubs, because of my job i moved alot, but one Club was founded by the Staff at one of the dealers i worked at. We all rode together on Monday the odd day off most dealers have, and one day sitting in a bar or restaurant we decided to ride together under a patch. We Called ourselves the Roadgliders MC. We Were Lucky we had as our 1st President someone who was affiliated somehow with the local Dominant, and he made sure we did it right. We started with a Slickback and a single patch on the front, Over time we were permitted a single backpatch, then with more time a 3 piece with a City Rocker, and Finally a State Rocker. My Job brought me back to New England, but as the Roadgliders 1st SA i stayed in touch, and i had heard they were patched over to the Dominant.
Thats a cool story thanks for sharing some history
“You hear that Harley Davidson?!” Haha honestly, that’s how it should be… I’m not a 1% so I’m not going to pretend like I know what they are about. I ride with Bikers Against Trafficking… but regardless, companies SHOULD allow employees to keep their jobs 1% or not… unless the company is getting some kind of blow back from activities that employee is doing outside of that job… they should just mind their own business, specially if that individual is a good worker
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I do agree with this statement but on the same note with social media being what it is now people blast there business for everyone to see, so it makes it harder for someone to keep there two lives separated cuz now it's that much easier to find out where you work and enemies to find you and cause havoc.
@@markcandelaria5343 I feel like if you live that life you definitely got the street smart to keep both life’s separate so it doesn’t bring problems into your personal life right? And if you get caught slipping and aren’t smart enough to keep both life separate theeen that’s on you right?
Punk ass Feds like to harass the employers of 1%ers
@@tech1er829 yeah I feel that… I do feel like employers should stand up for their employees 1% or not
Patching over in australia is a massive no no!! At best it can get you a huge bashing, at worst, killed……….
Didn’t most of the Finks MC patch over to the Mongols MC and some of them remained Finks but they’re not as huge as they used to be?
Much 💘 & Respect. Ghost the Sose
Much respect
I finally got my colors for the under club I’ve been rolling with ..my club is one of the top 1%er under/support clubs we share. CH with our upper it’s amazing all that hard work finally paid off ..
When the mob went out in Philly around 96-98 the Hells Angels and the Outlaws came to Philly trying to take over the Pagans. Watched it happen but the pagans held strong. Angels left but the outlaws have a big clubhouse down in Kensington. Basically it was a war over the drug trade, Dominicans ended up winning anyway lol
Outlaws own the south and east anyways
The mob is still in Philly.And your forgetting the wheels of soul is also in Philly & and get along with the Pagens.
@@charlespurcell1865 yeah I know the wheels of soul , beast used to be security at all the venues and I used to live up by their clubhouse. The mob is still in Philly haha where?
And to act like the wheels of soul are on the same level as the pagans, angels and outlaws is ridiculous.
Yep look at THE NY thing in the early 2000’s and free the 73... THE 16’s will always be the toughest!!
This is dope fr I love the video
Thank you
Sometime ago I lived nextdoor to a patched member of a MC and they were in process of being patched over to 81. He voted no and the patchover took place. They sent a couple of hang arounds to collect club property. Oh he was pissed.
Yea it happens
Happy birthday my brother hope it's a great one mine is on Saturday the 9th turning the big 61 love you brother
Happy Birthday, Glenn 🎉
Happy bday to you much love
# ghostin.. thanks man for another great video and great knowledge
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Thank u
Love your show Sosa Ghostin ⚡️🤘
Much love fugi #ghostin
Happy Birthday 🎊🎂🥳
My love 🙌🙌
Support clubs mainly help to set up events and other things if required (dependant of the 1%ers requirements) our support network is a big help for helping us to fund raise and to help us find others who need our help, without our support network even we will not have a normal life
Awesome info as always
Thanks chris
Thanks for that information . That was very well explained .
I always wondered what a patch over was .
I watched in SOA but didn't know if it was the real way it was done
Thanks SOSE , ..WILDMAN
Much love
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SOSE!!! 🎂🎈🎉🎁 Hope it's a great one!
May you have many more! Too bad your B-day video was pulled. I wanted to see it!
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Yea my phone died smh
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OOPSIE! That sucks! Hope it was awesome!
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I don't like speaking on the club my father used to run with but a much larger club tried to force them to patch over that lead to some nasty business but after a few years they managed to fight hard enough to resist the patch over, hence why I have some distrust towards the bigger clubs in my country. Hard to navigate this world when not a brother but you manage if you just move correct.
Yea it goes down either way
We have a decent sized Heathens MC Club here in Packers country, and the Milwaukee Outlaws have a big club just 100 miles south. I always wondered if they had respect for each other or if it was an issue being basically neighbor clubs.
Not a subject I personally, take lightly. Through experience. Been through it and will forever hold a lot of fucking animosity towards certain individuals for fucking up so much.
“Rails was only 24”. In the 60s and 70s club members seemed to be a lot younger than today. Many prospects weren’t old enough to buy beer. 20s and 30s was normal, 40s was rare. It makes sense when you remember many clubs were chartered in the 1960s. Young men made for violent times.
Good one, and great content. Have you done a video on members leaving or out bad joining other clubs whether rival, religious or otherwise?
Yes
Good piece of history
Yes
there was a small 1% club that been around since the 50's they refused to wear an affiliation patch and refused to patch over they were respected but still fought a lot they were finally gonna patch over after 2 decades of fighting but the prez died in a motorcycle accident and they disbanded into different clubs they were some oldschool hardcore bikers that really lived it
Hell's egos prospect your shit helps me move around with my future bro's as I have never been in a club
Enjoy the ride and take your time
I've hung around with a few clubs.... and all the 1% clubs said it was a requirement for membership to have full-time employment
Every club is different
Well aware of that. Can also vary by chapter on little things.
What’s up bro. I followed your channel for a while now.
This is Niko. From DESMADROSOS MC out of Houston Texas.
Had a question. What happens when a member give up his cut. And just leaves.
The cut is our possession. What happens to that cut. Or patches. Do they get reused or the cut get locked up.
Maybe you can give a little talk about that. I know every club would be different. But just to an idea.
Keep up the good work brother in giving us information and knowledge.
Thats a great idea they take the patches off
I rode with a club that wasn't support for anybody. They patched over to the dominant patch for patch, no prospect. Only one chapter patched over, we had seven chapters. Later on the dominant shut down what was left.
It goes like that built on the respect for that club
Thanks family love y’all family why be normal and be like everyone else we are all human beings and we are all equals and we are all created different earth is our family tree
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Got Another Story for you Ghost: locally the Dominant was growing but not fast enough is my guess the local "P" of the main Dominant chapter wanted ALL the Presidents of All the Coalition clubs to Step up, and just like you said many did, but one that i knew fairly well turned in his patches and left the life, he was hardcore loyal to his own, but just didn't want what the responsibilities that came with joining the dominant.
Great story ive seen that happen
Happy BIG BOY DAY FROM ALL OF UZ SOSE
🙌🙌thank u
@@DemonsRow YVW
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What is the L.P.D.P patch from Pagan's?
Im here 2 represent my 81 family 4 those r doin what they do! Ghosteete
Much respect to 81 and you brother
Respect to 81. Ride hard Stay Up on 2
You guys need a PA nomad charter.
@@anthonyloconte7835 check with your local chapter hun
@@SHQuest thanx brother ditto
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I'm sill on 2 doing what I do. ALWAYS#!!!!
Much respect
Unfortunately this happened just last year in my neighborhood when a local support club for ⚫️⚪️ sadly patched over to the pagans and now I have to ride through pagan territory instead of ⚫️⚪️ 😢
Pagans are solid when you get to know them
@@DemonsRow I’ve met one, real humble dude.
respect demons row!
@@DemonsRow truth!🤘
Solid meth heads & junkies.. atleast the ones from Virginia that’s as close as we allow them in Tennessee SYLO
You are awesome brother ghosting ghosting you have a nice machine ghosting much love brother
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Hey man I just heard what happened down in Florida I hope your good man and all is well
Yea im good in cali.living my best life
@@DemonsRow haha yeah! keep it on two’s
Heathens...now thats a name i haven't heard in a long time....my Uncle was a member back in the 70s or 80s i don't remember exactly
Much respect
It must of been the 60s or 70s and My uncle lived in Pottsville PA outside Reading
@@albertwoolridge8769 that whole area from Shamokin/Hazelton to Phillie has been Pagan territory for ever...
There is two different heathens m.c.
Yeah there is a west coast Heathens too Correct?
No patch over because if you ask me patch over that means you fear us so i don't need your patch.
Hey I had a question so if I wanted to make a patch right and I made the patch myself and it doesn’t have the MC on it and doesn’t have California or 1% on it and it has something else like Palito bay or Blaine County for my GTA five online would that be cool or if that still cause an issue?
County is a territory thats slways an issue
Thanks for letting me know ur doing a great thing for the mc world letting people know what’s right keep it up can’t want till u hit 1mil subs
What happens to any tattoos that a member may have of their former club? Are they able to keep them or do they generally need to get them covered up?
Cover
@@DemonsRow thanks for the reply. Much appreciated
Do you have to hand over your cut or do you get to keep it?
With all due respect, this is ONE video I want to see...
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Question? If there is a patch over do you have to prospect first or do you become a full patch member
Sometimes theres prospect patchovers
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We have a standing offer to patch over to a 1% at any time it really is a honor to have earned that respect but we're going on 10years independent...its just to much to give up.🖤😘
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much respect
Gho⚡tin ! Pa
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I'm not big on patchovers, when someone prospects for a club you know that person well before they get their patch, patchovers give you members that may not be good for the club,,,
Very true
Thank you for putting me on to the redrum mc. Just sent them a message to come hang around possibly
Nice
Sose, so sorry to hear about your brother in Florida that was shot in the back on the Hwy. last night 10-7-21? He was defending himself so he isn't going to be charged for the rival rider's lady getting shot off of the rival's bike, the Thug Rider didn't start this. This was on WFLA TV. Stay safe, could be trouble, I hope not!
Im not a thug rider no more bro
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81 patched over the brothers fast Mc here in Colorado
Yea it happens alot
Haven’t heard the heathens name in decades..... Pagans were strong where I lived at one time.
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still strong!!!!
@@ziptie1469 been out of the area for a decade.... good to hear
There is one question I have which wasn't quite answered in this video. (Or maybe it was, and I missed it) Anyway, I don't ride, and I don't belong to any club, but I'm interested in the MC culture. When a club gets patched over, is everybody already considered a brother in good standing, or do they all become prospects all over again? Or is this decided on a club by club, case by case basis? You've always been honest with me in the past, so I know I'll get the truth from you.
It can go both ways a full patchover and a prospect patchover
TNGN!
I always thought that no matter what when a patch over happened they made everyone one of that previous club prospects first ?
No it depends
If the dominant club knows that everyone patching over went through a proper prospecting phase and earn their patches they can choose to not make them prospect again.
@@philliesnative oh
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If a club gets patched over after a war, how do they handle animosity between individuals of the opposing club?
Its a process some like it feels like graduation others end up leaving
@DemonsRow you should do a video of the iron order mc patchover to the hells angels
I didnt hear that
I though iron order had cops. I could be wrong.
@@jonathanlsanchez3135 most chapters do some don't
@@DemonsRowI could be wrong but i think i heard it from your channel it was just a quick mention
When a president of a smaller club that gets patched over when that club gets patched over does he automatically become a full patch member of the bigger club
They all do sometimes theres a prospect patchover
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Ghostin laughing Dead MC, Dayton Ohio
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Lost my club to the Pagans MC.. RIP Green Machine MC
Good story if you ever have time to hear it
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@@DemonsRow Green Machine MC patched over to the 16s..
There was a shootout between the sin City disciples and the thug riders that left a woman dead I'm wondering if you're going to do a video about it
i dont think so. he isnt a Thug rider anymore
My brother ghosting brother ghosting got lung disease if people could pray it would be nice ghosting be blessed richly ghosting
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I am sure you heard about the shootout on Florida involving your club. Any word on what happened there?
Are you a cop
@@DemonsRow hell no homie. What made ya ask that? I am a class 2 gun dealer who builds full autos. Just a goofy guy who wishes I had a bike and was in your club because I am prior military and miss that kinda loyalty and brotherhood.
@@DemonsRow I asked because I was just curious what ya thought. That's all. Fucked up situation.
Like Dirty Dozen MC and the Red and white Hells Angels
Is it always an issue to have a three piece patch? For example three pieces without the MC or a territory on the bottom rocker?
Also what are you reading from in this episode?
If you throw on 3 you gotta sitdown with somebody
so for me support clubs are the best solution for 1% clubs due to the fact if you have many support clubs under you it becomes a community under the 1% which gives people opportunity to choose where they fit in in the mc community but for a patch over i still see it as a way to throw away hardwork and dedication to your brothers so i dont agree with patch overs but i do agree with support club mentality people keep their colors and can still represent and have a bigger input in the community that is whole
Def shane
Are there all female MC and how are they Proceeded by Other old school MC?
? Proceeded
@@DemonsRow sorry provided
What is the background on the blk n white n black n red? Kinda like ppl n folks?
Citybackground
@@DemonsRow so there is no diffrence besides the city like what if a club starts up a chap in a spot thats red n white but they were white n black do they become red and white cuz they are over there now 🤔
2 W’s lol
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👍 Heard that too.
When patching over, do you have to prospect all over again?
No
@@DemonsRow some 1%er clubs will make you become a prospective chapter for a period of time so you patch over but don't get the full back piece or whatever depending on the club.
Newbie . 🇬🇧
support your Local 16s!
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Harley Davidson need to show more respect to bikers in clubs
Yes
HD here in socal doesn't have any issues with club members in their employment.
Patchover...worse thing to do.
You don't know how many rats are coming over...since you don't really know the backgrounds.
Also the patchovers wanna act like their time in, means anything to the existing patched members.
I agree
You erase my comment? I thought u responded to all of em.
What comment
@@DemonsRow I asked you to DM me cuz I been wanting to say what’s up but didn’t wanna do it on a public format. I’m from CT and been watching your videos for a minute now.wanted to ask a few questions.
@@DemonsRow And thanks for the response. I honestly didn’t think I was going to get one
Yall should patch over to Pirates and turn your motto into "In God We Trust"
Support your local 81
Who shot Hothead in Oklahoma?
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