I implemented this yesterday and it works perfectly. I did not have previous soldering experience but I did do a lot of research beforehand and had some practice on a throwaway circuit board I had. I used a small cheap radioshack soldering iron but got some good quality thin solder which worked very well, and I used a razor blade to cut/score the existing FM links. I was most anxious about the soldering part, but this turned out to not be the most challenging aspect. My advice to anyone attempting this mod is to be very methodical about the order in which components are removed and where each screw should go - take many photos and stay organized. Excellent tutorial, thank you very much for taking the time.
Following up.... Just completed the mod tonight. Works great!! No difference in audio volume from aux to radio, no static, no feedback, just pure audio bliss! Why in the hell Subaru didn't do this from the getgo is beyond me! The whole process took about three hours start to finish. I used a Weller 40 amp solder station with adjustable temp, 60/40 leaded solder (yes lead is better), 24 gauge strand wire that I tinned prior to soldering to contacts and the recommended switch. I also addressed the dim & sometimes blinking climate control lights by deoxing and bending the contacts to regain continuity. I now have a stereo that has a clean aux in and bright display lights again!
Thanks for this, it took two tries but I got it working (loose ground), instead of ruining the radio by having the port drilled into it I ran the aux cord under the side of the center console right where the drivers knee would be. Super clean and the cord runs along the seat and comes up by the cup holders. No holes
Thanks for the video! I completed the install on my 2005 Subaru outback with the automatic climate controls. After soldering on an antenna connector (a mechanic broke the original one while replacing the airbags), everything works perfectly. Sadly, the combo lightning/headphone jack dongle doesn't let me charge while listening without large ammounts of feedback, but the stock apple dongle works. I will be installing a wireless MagSafe charger for the phone.
That's awesome, glad the video was helpful for you! Yeah, that is kind of annoying now that headphone jacks aren't often standard in phones, they can't be charged and plugged into something like this at the same time. A MagSafe charger sounds like the way to go 👍
I just did this today and it worked! Only thing that threw me off was when I plugged in the aux cord (just the cord, not connected to the phone) to the splitter (I was expecting that all audio would stop) the left audio was still playing the FM, I was disappointed, but after a couple minutes I felt the need to plug in my phone, once I did that, the audio from the left FM stopped, so I played a song from my phone and both left and right audio comes through! And once I unplug the cord from the splitter both left and right audio work for the FM! This aux mod is just as complicated, maybe a little more, than other aux mods, but none are as clean or cheap as this setup, only thing I’ve done different is mounting the splitter in the center “glove” console.
Just tried doing this today and desoldered one of the capacitors on accident, pretty sure I just screwed the whole thing up. Time to buy another head unit, I blame it on the Shiite harbor freight soldering iron....
Thanks for this, just completed the mod! I got a little sloppy with my ancient soldering iron and had to clean up the slop before it would work, though. If I was to do another one, I would get a compact soldering iron to make it easier!
You had me right up to, "Now we just need to disassemble this radio" and 50,000 tiny parts strewn all over your table. I'm just going to get an FM transmitter. The old ones had all kinds of problems, but the new ones are a night and day difference.
just completed this mod. It was not hard. Nice thing is, it looks stock and clean. Just go ahead and do it. Take your time with soldering and make sure you cut the printed circuit board connections.
Hi, Great video. Really helpful and as far as I can see unique. I followed all the steps but unfortunately my circuitboard was completely different to yours so I had to abandon the mod and put the car back together. I am disappointed not to have been able to get it done but was really delighted that you showed me how to remove the radio, dismantle it into its component parts then put it back together again and all looked exactly as it had done before I started and what is more, it worked. If you have any advice as to where to get circuit diagrams for my UK spec 2005 Outback stereo I would be very keen to hear.
Fantastic tutorial. Thank you for dedicating the time to teaching people like me. One question though; after install, the AUX works perfectly but I cannot hear AM/FM. What would you guess I messed up?
You used the same part that I specified? And cut the traces on the circuit board and connected a wire to each side of both cuts? That part specified works by either acting like a wire that passes through the left and right audio of the radio, but when you plug a 1/8" jack into it it disconnects the radio connections and connects the left and right channels from the device you have plugged in. If you're not getting radio sound when an aux cable is unplugged, I would double check the solder connections on the radio side of the cut circuit board traces.
@@42Pursuit Thank you for the reply. Yes, I followed your video to the letter, but I didn’t verify that I had broken the two traces with a multimeter or anything. So it’s possible that one of the runs still has continuity. I’ll dig back into it and verify. Thanks!
Once everything is pulled apart, is it possible for the HVAC controls to still work if at this point you got a new fascia and installed a new stereo head unit? Or is the power for stereo and HVAC all wired together? It looks like you've pulled the stereo and HVAC apart once all the casing is off
Hmm, I'm not sure. It was a while when I did this so I don't remember all of the connections exactly but I do think they shared some connectors and power if I'm not mistaken.
Really great ! I was trying to find the schematics on my radio to do the same thing. Thanks!! One question though, is the pre-amp circuit before or after the splice and if it is before, is there a big difference between volumes of radio and phone? I was thinking if there is, using a couple non-polar capacitors in line might do the trick.
So I just did this and I have no sound on my FM radio. When I connect the aux I only get sound on the left side of the car and barley any sound on the right. Has anybody fixed this issue if has also happened to yours?
Might be a little bit late but I just completed this install last night and it almost works perfectly except for when I plug in the aux chord the radio still plays in the background along with my phone, although the radio is a little bit quieter when the aux is plugged in. Any idea why this could be? Maybe didn't sever the connections enough for the two connections? Want to get an idea before I tear it all out again.
Yeah, if you didn't fully sever the traces on the printed circuit board there will be a bit of bleed-over. Double check that and if you're still having issues, check the continuity between the pins of the different modes on the connector to see if there might be an issue in the connector. Best of luck!
I saw that the model number of the head unit is the P-203UH. I have an 05 outback that has the P-201UH head unit. I was wondering if you can install an aux on the P-201UH the same way or is it different?
I'm sorry, I don't have that vehicle anymore so can't check. If it's a stock radio and the center column looks the same I would guess it's the same but you can double check before you get all the way into it. Confirm the radio unit looks similar once you get the plastic pieces and molding popped off.
@@42Pursuit willling to try out the surgery! The radio looks the same but I’ve paused the video many times and I can almost, almost make out the model number.
Does anyone know if you can use any 5 pin 3.5mm jack connector or does it have to be the specific one in this video? I’m in Australia so this part is $25 shipping for something that is $2
Hey could i ask if it worked out? I am also in australia and to be honest am not sure what to order exactly. Would it be possible to ask you what to order?
The connection is severed so that the 1/8" jack added can either pass through the original radio signal, or bypass the radio and play from the connected aux cable.
I can't speak to different makes and models of cars, but if it has a console and radio that looks the same as what you see in the video, it might have the same internals.
Unfortunately they won't be labeled. I won't be able to help further. It takes a lot of time, research, and testing to figure out the different signals as you basically need to reverse engineer the circuits as there's not a standard.
It would be great if someone knew where to put aux signal to the CD. I never use CDs and I want to connect an old set of Bluetooth earplugs so no switching Aux connector to use. If I just can get where the signal level from the CD is the corresponding one, I can cut off the CD and solder the earphone cables from my BT and voila! BT audio. Of course, one need to have access to the BT to be able to pair with devices but that shouldn't be any problem. I can just have longer shielded cables to the compartment above the stereo/AC unit.
Oh, depending on type of BT earphones, one may have to fix a power supply also. That is if the BT turns off when plugging in the ordinary USB charging.
Just an fyi for anyone thinking about this.. I tried this 11/23/17. I'm left with NO FM, and AUX sound on left side only...FM is toast. No radio, no matter AUX in or not. I decided to redo it..and screwed it up worse. Now looking at replacing with a newer OEM unit.. 07-08 P204-UH unit looks to be the best option..with some help from ae64.com Think about it before you try it..good luck!
Seriously if you're not electronically experienced (like me lol) it might be an idea just to go with a cigarette-lighter plugin fm transmitter for aux, as I'm intending to do on my mum's car - she isn't worried about using an mp3 player, and I didn't want her spending more $ on a secondhand younger car as she is an age pensioner.
@@dalegribble9314 just tried the patch myself. No FM or AM radio now. AUX works, but lots of static in treble that I can't get rid of. I must've screwed the solder job.
@@dalegribble9314 disregard. I was using a 4 pin cord that didn't map correctly to the jack. Once I used a proper 3 pin cord, the AUX worked fine without the static. The jack does seem pretty sensitive to the male plug of the AUX cord moving around and different speakers will cut out as the cord is jiggled. I still jacked the radio up though, so no FM/AM. Oh well.
So I tried this and got a weird result. If I just touch the 3.5 mm jack to the first switch without triggering it I get aux sound out of the right side of the car and radio sound out of both, as expected. If I stick it in further to trigger the first switch and just touch the second, I get clear aux sound out of the left speaker and nothing out of the right. If I stick the 3.5 mm jack all the way in I get sound out of both speakers but even with the volumes turned all the way up it's not audible unless your ear is to the speaker. I've double checked everything and am pretty stumped. Any help or advice on how to trouble shoot this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
It's difficult to troubleshoot with only partial plugging in the jack. First off, make sure you're using a 3-ring cable (TRS), not a 4-ring (TRRS) which will often have an in-line volume and/or microphone. Also, is it passing through radio correctly when nothing is plugged in?
I have a 2005 Subaru Forester which is different from your model. How do I identify which pins on the RF module are for audio out? Do cars have datasheets available for the different modules in the radio? Thanks for your time.
Unfortunately there's no simple answer as datasheets are often near-impossible to find. You could take it apart and see if the radio module has a part number and search for a datasheet that way. It might take some time but if you have an oscilloscope you could gain access to the board, power on the unit and probe around on the pins of the module until you found two that looked like an FM signal.
Sigh.. Subaru Outback is a wonderful car, and everything on it is great. Now.. WHY did Japanese manufacturers back in 2005 decided that AUX is unnecessary? in 2005 - ipods and MP3 players were already very widespread for goodness sake!!!
www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdfs is your radio www.tehnari.ru/attachments/f39/85077d1340687156-gx-201khf_gx-201lhf_gx-201rhf_gx-201shf2.pdf this is my
I implemented this yesterday and it works perfectly. I did not have previous soldering experience but I did do a lot of research beforehand and had some practice on a throwaway circuit board I had. I used a small cheap radioshack soldering iron but got some good quality thin solder which worked very well, and I used a razor blade to cut/score the existing FM links. I was most anxious about the soldering part, but this turned out to not be the most challenging aspect. My advice to anyone attempting this mod is to be very methodical about the order in which components are removed and where each screw should go - take many photos and stay organized. Excellent tutorial, thank you very much for taking the time.
Following up.... Just completed the mod tonight. Works great!! No difference in audio volume from aux to radio, no static, no feedback, just pure audio bliss! Why in the hell Subaru didn't do this from the getgo is beyond me! The whole process took about three hours start to finish. I used a Weller 40 amp solder station with adjustable temp, 60/40 leaded solder (yes lead is better), 24 gauge strand wire that I tinned prior to soldering to contacts and the recommended switch. I also addressed the dim & sometimes blinking climate control lights by deoxing and bending the contacts to regain continuity. I now have a stereo that has a clean aux in and bright display lights again!
Followed your instructions and everything worked perfect, thank-you for posting this, I appreciate you sharing this info!
Thanks for this, it took two tries but I got it working (loose ground), instead of ruining the radio by having the port drilled into it I ran the aux cord under the side of the center console right where the drivers knee would be. Super clean and the cord runs along the seat and comes up by the cup holders. No holes
I like the seeing the port at the front but routing it there is a great option too!
Thanks, I'm ordering the jacks to do this on my 2000 outback. Hoping the pins won't be too hard to trace.
Thanks for the video! I completed the install on my 2005 Subaru outback with the automatic climate controls. After soldering on an antenna connector (a mechanic broke the original one while replacing the airbags), everything works perfectly. Sadly, the combo lightning/headphone jack dongle doesn't let me charge while listening without large ammounts of feedback, but the stock apple dongle works. I will be installing a wireless MagSafe charger for the phone.
That's awesome, glad the video was helpful for you! Yeah, that is kind of annoying now that headphone jacks aren't often standard in phones, they can't be charged and plugged into something like this at the same time. A MagSafe charger sounds like the way to go 👍
Thank you very much for sharing this! Very low cost solution that works amazingly well and keeps everything looking stock and neat. Props to you sir!!
best mod to my legacy yet. i will change the stereo to a aftermarket one at a later date but this will keep me going for a while:)
I just did this today and it worked! Only thing that threw me off was when I plugged in the aux cord (just the cord, not connected to the phone) to the splitter (I was expecting that all audio would stop) the left audio was still playing the FM, I was disappointed, but after a couple minutes I felt the need to plug in my phone, once I did that, the audio from the left FM stopped, so I played a song from my phone and both left and right audio comes through! And once I unplug the cord from the splitter both left and right audio work for the FM!
This aux mod is just as complicated, maybe a little more, than other aux mods, but none are as clean or cheap as this setup, only thing I’ve done different is mounting the splitter in the center “glove” console.
Did you use the exact 5 pin connector he used? It costs $20 to ship to Australia so trying to find out if you can use any 5 pin connector
Just tried doing this today and desoldered one of the capacitors on accident, pretty sure I just screwed the whole thing up. Time to buy another head unit, I blame it on the Shiite harbor freight soldering iron....
Your amazing dude. Works perfectly!
Thanks for this, just completed the mod! I got a little sloppy with my ancient soldering iron and had to clean up the slop before it would work, though. If I was to do another one, I would get a compact soldering iron to make it easier!
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Yeah, a fine-tip soldering iron can be super helpful for small stuff like this.
Worked for me. Thanks!!!
Very clean install🤘
tests it with an evanescence song. what an absolute mad lad
You had me right up to, "Now we just need to disassemble this radio" and 50,000 tiny parts strewn all over your table. I'm just going to get an FM transmitter. The old ones had all kinds of problems, but the new ones are a night and day difference.
just completed this mod. It was not hard. Nice thing is, it looks stock and clean. Just go ahead and do it. Take your time with soldering and make sure you cut the printed circuit board connections.
Hi, Great video. Really helpful and as far as I can see unique. I followed all the steps but unfortunately my circuitboard was completely different to yours so I had to abandon the mod and put the car back together. I am disappointed not to have been able to get it done but was really delighted that you showed me how to remove the radio, dismantle it into its component parts then put it back together again and all looked exactly as it had done before I started and what is more, it worked. If you have any advice as to where to get circuit diagrams for my UK spec 2005 Outback stereo I would be very keen to hear.
Thanks!
Hmm, finding circuit info or diagrams is pretty difficult and unfortunately I don't have any for a UK 2005 outback 😕
Worked perfect on my 2005 legacy gt
Awesome! Glad it worked out for ya!
Could we do this with a Bluetooth decoder to the same pins? I don’t mind deleting the radio entirely if I have to
It might be possible but you'd have to make sure the signal voltage amplitude was about the same or risk burning out the bluetooth device.
Hey man do you have an idea how can i hack in a aux port or just a 3.5mm jack into my kenwood gx-201lh?
Hey there, unfortunately every radio is different and I only researched and figured out how to do it on this one. Best of luck!
Hi. I have Legacy 05 whit sound system gx-201lh. I was wondering whether same applies. Thank you
Fantastic tutorial. Thank you for dedicating the time to teaching people like me. One question though; after install, the AUX works perfectly but I cannot hear AM/FM. What would you guess I messed up?
You used the same part that I specified? And cut the traces on the circuit board and connected a wire to each side of both cuts? That part specified works by either acting like a wire that passes through the left and right audio of the radio, but when you plug a 1/8" jack into it it disconnects the radio connections and connects the left and right channels from the device you have plugged in. If you're not getting radio sound when an aux cable is unplugged, I would double check the solder connections on the radio side of the cut circuit board traces.
@@42Pursuit Thank you for the reply. Yes, I followed your video to the letter, but I didn’t verify that I had broken the two traces with a multimeter or anything. So it’s possible that one of the runs still has continuity. I’ll dig back into it and verify. Thanks!
Once everything is pulled apart, is it possible for the HVAC controls to still work if at this point you got a new fascia and installed a new stereo head unit? Or is the power for stereo and HVAC all wired together? It looks like you've pulled the stereo and HVAC apart once all the casing is off
Hmm, I'm not sure. It was a while when I did this so I don't remember all of the connections exactly but I do think they shared some connectors and power if I'm not mistaken.
have a p-133 6 cd changer in an 05 wrx will it work for me?
Really great ! I was trying to find the schematics on my radio to do the same thing. Thanks!! One question though, is the pre-amp circuit before or after the splice and if it is before, is there a big difference between volumes of radio and phone? I was thinking if there is, using a couple non-polar capacitors in line might do the trick.
Did you end up doing that?
@@sooori89 just did the splice, no caps. Works well.
@@PackardDog okay great, one less thing to worry about 👍 Hopefully my head unit has the same PCB layout as the video
So I just did this and I have no sound on my FM radio. When I connect the aux I only get sound on the left side of the car and barley any sound on the right. Has anybody fixed this issue if has also happened to yours?
Thank you!
After two years, have you noticed any issues with this? Looking to do this to mine but want to make sure it is a safe option
Might be a little bit late but I just completed this install last night and it almost works perfectly except for when I plug in the aux chord the radio still plays in the background along with my phone, although the radio is a little bit quieter when the aux is plugged in. Any idea why this could be? Maybe didn't sever the connections enough for the two connections? Want to get an idea before I tear it all out again.
Yeah, if you didn't fully sever the traces on the printed circuit board there will be a bit of bleed-over. Double check that and if you're still having issues, check the continuity between the pins of the different modes on the connector to see if there might be an issue in the connector.
Best of luck!
I saw that the model number of the head unit is the P-203UH. I have an 05 outback that has the P-201UH head unit. I was wondering if you can install an aux on the P-201UH the same way or is it different?
I'm planning on getting maybe a 2009 outback. Do you know if this process will work on it or not?
However the 2008legacy GT doesn’t 😅
Would this work on the McINTOSH unit and use the Mini disk output instead of the fm?
Not sure, all I know is this mod works for this exact radio installed in Subarus.
Do this work on all Subaru I have a 06 Tribeca
I also have a 06 Tribeca; it looks a little different than this, but I'd imagine this should work. I'll probably do it this summer.
How much would you charge me to do this to my radio? 06 Subaru Forester 6 disc cd changer
Evan Halstead same
I’m with you, I’d rather pay someone to do it for me
Well done!
Brilliant.
Sir, you made my day. thanks.
do you think this will work on a GX-203KE unit?
2006 outback.
Does this work for subaru a-201jn
Hi! Can you tell me which model number stereo this is? I want to verify that I have the same one in my 2006 OBXT (I have a P-203UH).
I'm sorry, I don't have that vehicle anymore so can't check.
If it's a stock radio and the center column looks the same I would guess it's the same but you can double check before you get all the way into it. Confirm the radio unit looks similar once you get the plastic pieces and molding popped off.
@@42Pursuit willling to try out the surgery! The radio looks the same but I’ve paused the video many times and I can almost, almost make out the model number.
Will this work on a 2003 xs forester?
does the swithcraft piece come with the 5 wires?
It doesn't, you'll have to solder those on.
Tip for anyone else reading this: get the wires from a spare Ethernet cable (most are pretty good, solid wires perfect for signals)
Does your cd player still work?
sorry will it work on subaru outback 2003 s cd player?
What is the audio quality like with this method?
Does anyone know if you can use any 5 pin 3.5mm jack connector or does it have to be the specific one in this video? I’m in Australia so this part is $25 shipping for something that is $2
Hey could i ask if it worked out? I am also in australia and to be honest am not sure what to order exactly. Would it be possible to ask you what to order?
Why did you have to severe the connection to the resistors?
The connection is severed so that the 1/8" jack added can either pass through the original radio signal, or bypass the radio and play from the connected aux cable.
Would this work on a 2004 forester
I can't speak to different makes and models of cars, but if it has a console and radio that looks the same as what you see in the video, it might have the same internals.
@@42Pursuit okay so when it comes down to the circuit board what am I looking for?
@@supazsa See if it matches the circuit board at 3:20. If it doesn't, unfortunately this method won't work.
Just in case it doesn't what circuits am I looking for?
Unfortunately they won't be labeled. I won't be able to help further. It takes a lot of time, research, and testing to figure out the different signals as you basically need to reverse engineer the circuits as there's not a standard.
genial amigo eslo lo busque durante mcuho mucho tiempo, ahora lo voy a probar en mi auto (Y)
Are you able to use any AUX input or is this some kind of Subaru specific piece?
If you use the part linked to in the description, it should play off anything connected with the 3.5mm jack.
It would be great if someone knew where to put aux signal to the CD. I never use CDs and I want to connect an old set of Bluetooth earplugs so no switching Aux connector to use. If I just can get where the signal level from the CD is the corresponding one, I can cut off the CD and solder the earphone cables from my BT and voila! BT audio. Of course, one need to have access to the BT to be able to pair with devices but that shouldn't be any problem. I can just have longer shielded cables to the compartment above the stereo/AC unit.
Oh, depending on type of BT earphones, one may have to fix a power supply also. That is if the BT turns off when plugging in the ordinary USB charging.
Just an fyi for anyone thinking about this.. I tried this 11/23/17.
I'm left with NO FM, and AUX sound on left side only...FM is toast. No radio, no matter AUX in or not. I decided to redo it..and screwed it up worse.
Now looking at replacing with a newer OEM unit.. 07-08 P204-UH unit looks to be the best option..with some help from ae64.com
Think about it before you try it..good luck!
Seriously if you're not electronically experienced (like me lol) it might be an idea just to go with a cigarette-lighter plugin fm transmitter for aux, as I'm intending to do on my mum's car - she isn't worried about using an mp3 player, and I didn't want her spending more $ on a secondhand younger car as she is an age pensioner.
Your soldering skills should be very good before attempting
Has anyone figured out this issue? It's doing the same on mine
@@dalegribble9314 just tried the patch myself. No FM or AM radio now. AUX works, but lots of static in treble that I can't get rid of. I must've screwed the solder job.
@@dalegribble9314 disregard. I was using a 4 pin cord that didn't map correctly to the jack. Once I used a proper 3 pin cord, the AUX worked fine without the static. The jack does seem pretty sensitive to the male plug of the AUX cord moving around and different speakers will cut out as the cord is jiggled.
I still jacked the radio up though, so no FM/AM. Oh well.
So I tried this and got a weird result. If I just touch the 3.5 mm jack to the first switch without triggering it I get aux sound out of the right side of the car and radio sound out of both, as expected. If I stick it in further to trigger the first switch and just touch the second, I get clear aux sound out of the left speaker and nothing out of the right. If I stick the 3.5 mm jack all the way in I get sound out of both speakers but even with the volumes turned all the way up it's not audible unless your ear is to the speaker. I've double checked everything and am pretty stumped. Any help or advice on how to trouble shoot this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
It's difficult to troubleshoot with only partial plugging in the jack. First off, make sure you're using a 3-ring cable (TRS), not a 4-ring (TRRS) which will often have an in-line volume and/or microphone. Also, is it passing through radio correctly when nothing is plugged in?
@@42Pursuit I need help, can you message me please
I have a 2005 Subaru Forester which is different from your model. How do I identify which pins on the RF module are for audio out? Do cars have datasheets available for the different modules in the radio? Thanks for your time.
Unfortunately there's no simple answer as datasheets are often near-impossible to find. You could take it apart and see if the radio module has a part number and search for a datasheet that way.
It might take some time but if you have an oscilloscope you could gain access to the board, power on the unit and probe around on the pins of the module until you found two that looked like an FM signal.
@@42Pursuit got the same thing on my 04 haven't figured it out yet. how about you +josh Katz
Do you know where I can find the 24 gauge wire for this build?
search colored 24 awg on google/amazon/ebay you might be able to find lengths rather than spools on ebay
Sigh.. Subaru Outback is a wonderful car, and everything on it is great. Now.. WHY did Japanese manufacturers back in 2005 decided that AUX is unnecessary? in 2005 - ipods and MP3 players were already very widespread for goodness sake!!!
Hi friend, would you help me?
I want to do the same on my radio, but it is not the same, as you could do in gx201sh model. thank you very much.
www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdfs is your radio
www.tehnari.ru/attachments/f39/85077d1340687156-gx-201khf_gx-201lhf_gx-201rhf_gx-201shf2.pdf this is my
leonardo santis did you solve yours? I got the same model as you
yes!
i'm conect in fm out
You didn't by any chance snap a foto after you soldered? 🙈
This is insane we have to disassemble the hole radio to do this. there is not other easy way "JESUS"