The T72 is a bit POO.... 7th Panzer Deck Build WARNO
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- As it was requested I present a 7th Panzer team deck build, I wouldn't play 7th in Ranked 1v1 unless you really want to suffer.
T72 lovers... come at me bro!
Deck Code: FhEk0QmBGgAAIqAAkOAABew+6KKGii5BoguZNwLmTcPJkQgr4/Aa6PwBnAAJIAACR8AAk8gAJIIACSCAAEdgABH4AAT0ABEIj8AvIcwQ6AAJhD7ghQACGmAAlBAAJQQACY6AAmOgAJS4ACUsAAidgAJC4AAQ
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I think it's a great deck. You need to use smoked literally everywhere to give your tanks the opportunity to get close and pain. You need to use your four rocket launchers that have a very low resupply and aim time as often as you can. Hit enemy infantry areas. Hit enemy tanks with them. It's not going to kill them but it's going to wreck cohesion and it's going to do chip damage. Might not work well in one be one but has been used to great effect in 10 to 10 whatever that's worth
Yes smoke is a very good suggestion with this one :)
I totally agree with you, Bandanner. The T-72 is not very useful anymore and I personally think Eugen made an error nerfing the range of basically the same gun seen on the T-64s and T-80s. As a tank nerd I do know about the poor FCS of the "monkey model" T-72 tanks compared to their brethren, but I do Eugen should try differentiating the T-72 from the other mentioned tanks by doing something around accuracy, not range on the main gun itself.
I have been playing alot of 10v10s the last couple of months and I have never seen anyone bringing 7th Panzer to the battlefield, I would not do so myself and I was a huge fan of this division until the nerfing of the T-72 - this tank deserves better...
Btw, I find the MiG-21 bomber to be quite useful, so I would bring along if I ever play this division again. I usually send three at a time, usually against infantry or spotted, soft targets.
I tried them on Wed this week but yeah... I felt it was a struggle in any situation where I was over open terrain against heavy tanks.
@@BandannersRTS And that defeats the purpose of a tank division, I transitioned into using the Berliner Gruppierung instead after the rough nerf of the T-72 tanks. Pity, the East German faction is a really interesting one.
regarding your HE bombers, I think I will go with the SU-22 instead.
Yeah, the payload is lower (and that can make a huge difference), but it has 10% more ECM, so its more likely to get back in one piece.
Also its more agile, so it has a faster - tighter- turn and wont end up going as deep behind enemy lines as other bombers.
and those 2 R60 can tickle helos along the way as well, which is not something to ignore either.
That's very reasonable, I am just fearful at the moment that dive bombers make a one way trip to to the range scaling on the ground AA missiles so want to guarantee a kill.
But you are right extra 10% ECM etc does help.
Shame that this division is dead😢 used to be my favorite since Wargame days
I just used this deck and WOW the T-72s of all variants were woefully inadequate to fight Abrams and Challengers.
Yeah, this is the issue, I watched Tmanplays try it yesterday in ranked and it was pretty brutal.
I found the SU-22 AT is better for 1 v 1 but for team game the MIG-23 AT is better because of the longer range on the missile. I would fly those in pairs, shoot their missiles from 4.2 km away then have them turn around immediately, it's micro intensive but you can avoid most manpad and IR AA by doing it.
I can see how brining them out in pairs would be beneficial to try and guarantee a hit, I think Bulba said this is how he uses them in ranked.
And I think the east german infantry gets a bonus. I thinknthey are (or maybe were) on a higher rank for the same availability
They used to get more availability at a high rank this was removed with the veterancy rework.
They only get their resolute bonus now.
@@BandannersRTS Oh... That is for sure a big nerf :-(
@@williamvz6292 Well they never intended them to have both as it made them too strong but failed to change it after adding the trait... until now.
ngl, i really like this deck which you build and will try it out in ranked :) But maybe i would take out the second card of mig23AA and would take instead 1 more KUB
You would try it in ranked? That's brave! this one was more of a team build... I have seen a lot of people have a rough time with this division in ranked lately.
You will have to let me know how it turns out.
@@BandannersRTS okay, tried now a couple of rounds and must its pain in the arse to play this div xD
@@wero892 Haha! Even Tman suffered and lost a game earlier, and he got angry, I have never seen him angry in a game before.
But he could do nothing against the T80/BMP3 wall.
The strongest part of the East German tabs are their infantry so I think Its better to play into that so I prefer the 4thMSR
I think that's very reasonable some people had a lot of success with 4th MSD before the vet rework still waiting to see it more in this patch.
Its funny since EG T72s have ahistorical ammo. They should have 3BM15 which would.. Make their pen worse than a T55. Yeah. Would atleast make them cheap and have a gimmick atleast.
That's interesting to hear, I'm certainly not a history buff on this stuff. So its always interesting to hear these things.
I notice that in a lot of videos when you go over helicopter tab you absolutely never mention the gun. Having a 3/4 penetration gun can be a very big game changer in nieche number of situations (yes I am aware of how it sounds) compared to the HE cannon. Most IFVs/trucks/supplys have 3 armor top, being able to penetrate it at max range with a gun sometimes can halt a whole enemy IFV advance, even if you are out of rockets. As I said, nieche situations, but they happen, and if I have same chopper with a gun difference (missiles
ockets very simmilar) I always take the better gun, even if more epxensive.
I guess I don't mention it because currently it really does not help them in the grand scheme any more, as you say very niche situations maybe... the gun on a single helo would not stop an entire IFV advance in the current balance though, that helo would be dead.
Right now its very difficult to get your helos in range to use the guns without them being destroyed. Unless the enemy is totally out of position.
Helos also don't hit top armour, they hit whatever angle they are facing from in the game. So front/side/back, to hit top armour in Eugen games the unit/projectile ahs to be directly above (I will double check that with Nalyd but afaik its never changed). Top down hitting weapons have often been requested even since Wargame (such as the hellfire missiles correct attack) but its never happened. Bit like the AT jets only hit front/side/back armour.
Many of their guns are autocannons but they have a limiter on their max Armour Penetration now. You see earlier last year or late 2022 it was possible to do a mad dash with them into enemy forces and rip stuff up with the guns including heavy tanks (even with gazelle cannons). That's no longer possible since they adjusted the autocannon AP damage (which was needed).
The other issue with this suggestion right now is IFV Autocannons do a lot of damage to helos and machine guns do a lot more than they used too.
So I would not in the current patch suggest a mad dash into enemy forces with helos.
@@BandannersRTS by 3 armor top I ment highest value of armor on vehicle in general, we are talking light vehicles here and some IFVs, but yes, autocanns indeed delete choppers ATM.
@@hivecasts Oh I see, well yep front armour of some is indeed 3. :)
Sorry was quite confused when you called it top haha.
Though for the benefit of anyone else reading, the Marder, some Bradleys and BMP 2 & 3 have 4-5 front armour. So watch out for those.
Pls help me here. You said you wpuld trade a mig 23 to a helo...why would you be ok with that huge trade loss but not ok with an even swap on a cheaper plane? Apahce is 230 240? Cobra 130 anyrjong else i believe..might be off... is under 70. Granted i dont pvp and im learning but to me thats bad.
On a side note if your lookong for spammable ive had luck with a mig 21 spam. Normally able to down 1 helo if not dmg 2nd one first pass amd still engage in air to air. They are throw away anyways. Leave my good aa a/c after ive delt my blow. Allows me to save a few extra points early game.
The mig 23 is only 165 points.... the slightly cheaper planes are not as effective in the ASF role. Thus the Mig23 can fulfil any role I need it to.
I would only suicide a mig 23 into an expensive helo because those are the only ones I am concerned about.
I'm not going to waste any jet on a gazelle or an Mi8 if I know there is AA there (unless I am feeling particularly bonkers or have to do it to save an expensive tank).
I would suggest its bad form to use ANY jets against cheap helos unless you 100% have to. Common sense applies here.
You say you don't do PvP though, its a very different world to playing vs the AI.
T72's lets go \o/
Nope :P needs more T64s all decks need T64s!
@@BandannersRTS 72 is a bigger number, therefore that makes the 72 better, science bitch 😎