electronicsNmore you gave a theory of how you think in fan actually worksput the device you suspected is inside the original inside yours and see if it worksotherwise your theory remains a theory
electronicsNmore you aren't willing to insert the device you mentioned in the fan? you haven't proven this is a scam then you only presented a theory about how it works
electronicsNmore I have experimented with neo magnets and felt there is potential to create very useful mechanisms. For instance contact free transfer. I have a video posted way back where I constructed a basic contact free energy transfer demonstration. Based off the design of A/C generators and motors I would like to further research ideas for the potential to create a system that could create free energy from strong magnets. I feel there is likely a way to do this. Currently we use magnets to create electricity from an external power source. If further research is done I believe we can utilize magnet fields to do this with no drive source.
This is really a very simple situation. NOTHING like this can EVER work no matter how you arrange things. This is just a fact. Lots of people try this sort of thing but it never works, it can't. Any video showing something like this working is a fake. UA-cam needs more people like yourself who tell the truth. You're doing a good job. Well done and thank you.
I'm nearing the completion of my Electrical Engineering degree, and it's frustrating to me when I come across people who think I'm part of the anti-free energy conspiracy. Thanks for putting out these videos, it's nice to see someone who has the patience to respectfully approach the situation and put together these devices to show how they (don't) work.
Thanks For Watching. I'm very open minded to ideas/new things, but some things just don't work. Lets be realistic, if this really worked, the person would be patenting the idea, and making millions. People are way too trusting of many UA-cam videos. If this does work, then I expect someone to come forward with all the design specifics so it can easily be duplicated by others. Good luck with that.
Emmanuel Delahaye energy can not be destroyed or created only converted this is the law of the conservation of energy so the "free" would mean creation of erergy without an input source
***** The cogging effect is very hard to overcome. Is it possible? Anything is possible, but highly unlikely as the uploader showed. Remember, the individual stated that all he did was glue magnets to each fan blade then use another magnet to push it into smooth operation. Based on that, it is not going to happen.
Unfortunately, I do not believe this type of free energy device will ever work; not even with monopoles. The problem is that for every south pole this is an opposite and equal north pole, or the south pole has to be brought closer to the stationary magnet before it can repel away. Cogging should not be a big deal with enough rotational inertia. If you draw out the field lines for all the magnets, you will see a few that will counteract the desired force. Every design I have found thus far has that problem.
Thank you for showing that this is bogus. My son saw one of the fake videos and has tried and tried to make it work for his science fair project. It wouldn't work, he got the same results as you. I was able to show him your video and let him know it was not his fault. Unfortunately he spent a week and a half of his time trying to get it to work before I stepped in, and now he is disappointed with what he has to turn in at school. It is truly sad what people will do to get a few views online.
These videos are great. I thought of a similar design, which wouldn't work of course, but I wasn't sure exactly why. Thanks for explaining and debunking these.
I'm surprised that a smart man such as yourself would even have to try this to know it cannot work, lets say this is to show other people that it will not work to save them the frustration of failure. It looks like it should work but really can't, ever work. Keep up the good work on your other videos.
Lets just say that I more or less figured it would not work. but I wanted to put the video out there to inform others and save them the time/trouble of trying it out themselves.
what if u used the same idea but put a horizontal axis on a vertical wheel with multiple magnets facing the same way, place the wheel over the fan, and set it spinning, just an educated guess as to what would overcome the "cogging" effect... both the fan and the wheel could potentially spin indefinately... OR use monopole magnets on the fan blades so the opposite magnetic fields are not affected, i dont have the cash right now for the experiment but i will definately try it out... also is it possible even for this fan to produce electricity instead of acting as a load... you might try setting it spinning with a dremel tool with a load attatched to the wires from the fan, i really appreciate what you are doing here :)
Since all magnets would be moving, the odds of getting the fan to spin would be much higher, but you will likely experience problems maintaining a smooth spinning fan.
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Set it up so the fan also turns a little crank attached to a rod with lobes on it like a cam shaft. This will avoid cogging and will simulate turning a magnet on and off
i dont know much about magnetic fields but could you try having the magnets on the fan facing south. then, have another fan facing magnetic north and place them next to each other, that way the magnets keep landing within the same levels? just play around with the fields lol
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You need to add a soda straw to your setup. Blow through the straw, aimed at the fan, as you bring the magnet close. It will spin! :) (BTW: It spins best if the outer magnet isn't a magnet at all...)
*****wenn ich jetzt ein paar radial magnetisierte magnete nehme funktioniert das dann genauso wie wenn ich einen langen runden radial magneten nehme? (hurricane balls meine ich bzw searl)
It's because your disc magnets are axially magnetized. Try disc magnets that are magnetized diametrically through thickness. Thanks for sharing this, and your diagrams on how your poles are placed. That was a huge help!
Yes you are right, I got the terms switched huh? Good catch, but the diagram I believe is the incorrect magnet type? Not saying it'll work when switched but I'm gonna try it. Got them in the mail already.
john sims cogging can be a problem in a device like this but there are ways to solve cogging problems it's not an automatic death knell so if this is fake is John Christies magnetic motor also fake? google it
this is in no way close to a magnetic motor. This fan has a battery in it with a switch that is connected when magnetized. Use your brain not your eyes.
Finally a video who shows this device in a objective way, I really needed this video for my students because they insist endlessly that this device can work, that the physics laws are wrong, that we are brainwashed etc. I have tried several Free energy scams before for my students, none works ofc. I was so tired to find so many fakes all over the internet, Thank you for posting this video, you saved me time and money.
you need MONO pole magnets on the fan, or you need a cct to swap feilds at the right time, or something that "spins a interference feild at the right time... thats the tricky part. try this and see what i mean, .. spin your interference magnet with your hand but on an axis near or in the "sweet spot" you have to find it, but not hard.. you will get a few actual spins to prove concept..... but not a working motor .. yet.
Thank you . I watched the fake video first with my son and daughter, and then happened to see yours. I am grateful you took the time to post this, as we were pretty impressed with the fakers work. As disappointed as we were, and as much as we didn't want yours to be convincing, we really are thankful for learning more about magnetic forces, but also how to apply a little common sense and critical thinking when listening and viewing research. Kindest regards and with respect, jm
Thanks For Watching JM. Common sense can go a long way. If motors did not require electricity to power them, then you would see these magnet motors being made and sold by people just like me. Even if others tried to suppress the idea, the device would still be leaked and sold online to you and I. Be sure to rate Thumbs Up, and share.
Seriously, every single one of you who thinks this guy is wrong, have you EVER been to school and how the fuck did you pass physics? Dude, I really think you're dealing with some kids here who lack basic knowledge on how the world works.
In a few days I will be uploading a very good video showing how the hoax was and could have been pulled off. All the thumbs down people will look stupid. Many videos on UA-cam showing "Free Energy" devices are nothing more than illusions and trickery. Thanks For Watching!
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the outer magnets would need to spin to continuously attract the magnets attached to the fan blades, but they would only spin until friction slows them to stopping, it's a very tricky near impossible task to make the motor work without applying power to the system, which would make it pointless. but it is still worth exploring different options.
@Rahat Ibn Nabi Based on the testing I have done, which is more extensive than what is shown in this video, I can say you WILL NOT get a single magnet to push a case fan into smooth spinning operation. Not going to happen. If you doubt it, then try it! Very simple to prove to yourself.
Pablo Garcia Don't waste my time. Either PROVE this works by making a video and testing it out for yourself, or stop carrying on. I'm seriously considering creating a new channel just for making free energy scam videos since so many people believe in them.
Pablo Garcia More like how gullible. Find me one computer case fan that you can buy online that spins freely using one magnet as shown in this video, or multiple magnets(NO WIND), and produces endless power. LOL. Please do so and post the link here for all the viewers to see. Clearly people would be duplicating this device like crazy and making lots of money selling them online. Show us. I would like to buy one. The Chinese would have already duplicated and mass produced this device for sale.
Pablo Garcia Also, you can see many different people who can saw a woman in half and put her back together. You can clearly see that she is in two pieces, so it must be real. I tried it and killed the woman next door. Maybe I should try it with a sharper saw.
Pablo Garcia Bloggers have credibility?? That's a new one. Pablo, yes, magnets repel when their like poles face one another. But they repel in BOTH directions. The next magnet on the circle can't get into proper position because it gets pushed backwards. The fan is being forced to turn in two directions at the same time. The net result is it doesn't move at all. Perhaps you should do what thousands before you have done. Try it yourself.
I can Conclude that it is fake. I cannot help but notice, how the fan is kind of jiggling when it spins. Its not spinning very fluently/balance. What I can say though is that the fan is indeed genuinely spinning using the magnets stuck to the fan blade reacting to the magnet he is holding. But why does the fan jiggle? I believe that he dismantled the fan and took out what was inside of the middle of it (the PCB, wiring, etc. This then will allow the fan to spin easily using the magnets because of less friction.) And then : With the amount of space he created after cleaning out what was inside the middle of the fan (that large circular in the middle of the fan that usually houses the electronics that causes the fan to spin if connected to power). The amount of space is then FILLED with "circular Batteries", enough batteries to power the LED Bulb he is using. The Circular Batteries are basically housed inside the middle of the fan and those batteries are connected to the red and black wires. So that when he connects the bulb to the wires it lights up. Basically even if he doesnt do that magnet spinning fan Gimmick, by Simply connecting the black and red wires to the bulb it will still light up even without having to spin the fans. Because the red and black wire is actually hook up to the circular battery housed inside the middle of the fan. In the video 1> He saids if he stops spinning the fan using magnets, the bulb don't light up... Why? Thats because he also pulls out the Black Wire as soon as he stops spinning the Fan using the Magnet. ^But actually even if he doesn't make the fan spin using the magnet, the bulb will stay light up because it is actually powered by circular batteries found in the middle of the fan. Those batteries are then connected to the red and black wire he is using which are originally connected to the original fan electronics. 2> He tested the Bulb and it lit up using a Double AA battery. Okay thats legit. But He didn't test the fan if it works if he plugs it on a PC Power supply. ^Thats because he gutted out the middle electronics of the fan and replaced the electronics with circular batteries. so even if he connected the fan into a Power Supply Molex power connector, it Won't spin.
electronicsNmore ah ye my bad, wanted to make sure we were on the same page and that you are referring to that particular video. But I am pretty sure thats how he did it. Its just the fact that he tested the bulb works with a power source i.e. the battery but he didn't test if the fans work if connected to a Power supply. then when he showed how the bulb starts when he spins the fans and it stops when he doesn't let the fan spins. it wasn't about the fan spinning that makes the bulb light up at all. But it was because of him pulling out the black wire supplying the power. I am pretty sure even if he keeps the fan not spinning, the bulb will still light up just by connecting the black and red wire to the bulb. I have seen quite alot of 120mm PC case fan "free energy" videos, and I can see most of them utilizes the same gimmick using low power LED bulb and circular batteries placed in the middle of the fan/hub.
dose a fan like that even make any power when you spin it i know its a motor but these fans have control circuitry that could stop any power form going back out of the fan
Many of those case fans do not produce any power when you spin them, but I have come across a few that did produce power when you spin them. Thanks For Watching!
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I am trying the exact same thing. I to am having problems with it spinning. The video that shows it spinning looked like he used refrigerator magnets not sure what kind he had in his hand. You make a good point.
I wish more viewers were smart enough to try this themselves before posting comments on my video how I did certain things incorrectly, or rating it a thumbs down. Thanks For Watching!
electronicsNmore I find this concept very interesting. Noticing with these fans that there is magnetic resistance within the motor itself while static, attributing more resistance to the cogging effect. I was able to get a disc that was levitating on a 52gauss neodymium field held with a brass tube in the center to spin with this fan concept since there was no interference from the fan motor... Though, of course there is no way to then generate or harness the energy and utilize it. but still interesting to watch static objects create motion.
The problem doesn't have a damned thing to do with what size magnets go on the blades or the pushing magnet, blah blah blah, as long as you can get a big external magnet to push the blade magnets then that part is fine. THE PROBLEM is the fan that is being used! Almost all modern cheap fan motors like that aren't capable of making electricity. You have to find an older model fan THAT HAS MAGNETS INSIDE of the case that is part of the original design. There is NOTHING fancy or magical here, the principal is the same as a wind generator. Go look at how a wind generator is made and you will see both wire coils and magnets, the wind turns the blades passing the magnets and coils over each other to make electricity. The ONLY thing different here, as long as you have a fan with magnets and there isn't any blocking diodes or crap like that inside that needs removed, is that you are using the glued on magnets and a big external magnet to REPLACE THE WIND to spin the fan. If you can't hold the little fan up to a big fan and have the little one making electricity (checked with a volt meter) then putting magnets on the blades isn't going to do a damned thing!! Soooo... You need a fan with internal magnets and it can't have circuitry that is blocking current flow from your test meter. Pretty damned simple.
What does your comment have to do with the video being a scam? Which it is? Your correct that some case fans can produce a voltage when placed in the the wind to allow the blades to spin, but many others do not as a result of the internal circuitry. The purpose of this video was to show that you will not have a free spinning case fan using only magnets. If you doubt this, then I suggest you purchase a case fan and magnets. I assure you that you will be HIGHLY disappointed with the results. Thanks For Watching.
HAHA ! I love these videos ! Not the set-up itself, any reasonably competent school kid could make it, but reading all the comments, divided between “This can’t work - it’s scientifically impossible!” and “It DOES work! I have tried it!”. They are lying of course. If anyone is wondering WHY it doesn’t work, you don’t need to go into conservation of energy or that the magnets are ‘storing’ energy (they don’t). It’s just that you can’t make a motor out of just fixed permanent magnets - no matter how you arrange them, the thing will simply not turn. True, the magnet in your hand is pushing one magnet on the fan ‘forwards’, but it is also pushing the magnet behind it ‘backwards’ and the fan will just move into a position where those forces are equal and the thing never goes any further…
You put the poles wrong. It should be n-n-s-n-s-n-s. start rotating at the double n magnet. Use low energy magnets on the blades. Then it works. Please make a new video to inform the people.
Hi, I'm just trying to put this thing to work myself, the only BIG problem in all this magnetic stuff is actually the magnetic field itself... in other words: Unless the field lines of every magnet in the cogging zone are parallel (sure they aren't at all) this will NOT work. The diverging lines at both sides of magnets will always cause to the fan blades to "oscillate" around an ideal point where soon they will stabilize, that means also that when you try to get past of that point, the small magnets glued on the blades will be attracted back to that point, no matter how you put the big magnet on them, it will be always the same, the closer it is, the stronger the effect, you can actually feel it while trying to keep it steady over the fan when you give it a spin, it seems like a "vibration". In my opinion, it's just impossible. Have a nice day
Hey Deimos. Glad you tried this out, I wish others would do the same before posting stupid comments on my video, or rating it a thumbs down. If this did work, it would be great because I could really put a device like this to work! Unfortunately this will never work as shown in the original uploaded video. Thanks For Watching!
Jeremy Cook Try it out, if you get it to work upload a video with all the details to duplicate it. Remember, the purpose of this video was to show that this will not work as the uploader showed. Adding more magnets (which I tried) is not what the other individual did in his video. He used 8 magnets in total.
thank you for saving me $thousands of dollars. I have always thought about this and wanted to build a prototype on a larger scale. I have a drawing I would like to send you to see what you think. .....thanks again .
Even if this does work (not saying it doesn't) it is not perpetual motion for 2 reasons 1. magnets do lose their magnetic ability 2. It is technically not perpetual motion because perpetual motion is motion not affected by force of any kind Perpetual motion is impossible no matter how you look at it if you find soothing that is perpetual than pls let me know because it is not possible. they say I you throw a ball in space it goes for ever so if you spin something in space it would go forever. FALSE because it would eventually stop because of dark matter even dark matter has friction it may take a million or so years but it will eventually stop true perpetual motion means an action that is repetitive over and over again for ever as long as no outside force acts upon it the closest thing to perpetual motion we have is an electrical circuit so think about it even the universe will lose its energy may be way past any persons lifetime that will ever read this comment but it will end it is not something I hate to think about but it will happen.
The guy who made the free energy video you mention is using a light bulb from a magic store. It is the same type light bulb used by Uncle Fester in the Adams family TV show/movies. It has batteries in the base, and the base is plastic and fake looking. (It's made to stick in your mouth after all.) The on switch is on the base, where he touches the wire. His fan is most likely moving due to a blast of air directed at the fan.
I agree with you 100%.. its pretty obvious that it is not possible to get a blade spinning in both directions at once.. If you have a S magnet followed by another S magnet attached and you put another S magnet between them you are going to get the magnets repelling in different directions.. In order for a blade to spin you would need a S to be pushed on the blade followed by a N on another blade to pull it towards the stationary magnet.. Problem is that the S magnet following that N magnet will once again want to repel in the opposite direction while the N magnet tries to become stationary.. Either way you are only going to achieve some minor rocking, eventually finding the blade achieving a lock point.. Common sense says that this video is correct. How anyone could argue the opposite is beyond me..
The chance of this working isn't slim, or next to nil. It's nil. It's vaguely interesting that you tried this over and over, but it's like trying to prove that socks don't fly. You don't need to throw socks up in the air over and over to show that no matter what you do, they just won't fly. Permanent magnets are seductive because they seem to make a free force. But it's the same as gravity - there's a force there, but as soon as you exhaust the potential energy, you have to restore the potential, to make it work again. The magnets that are driven away from the stationary magnet going one way, are attracted to it after they circle around. Consider: if you decided to call it an attraction motor instead of a repulsion motor, you wouldn't need to reconfigure it because it's attracting and repelling at the same time. The motor works conceptually by neglecting one side of the system. And of course, people will try this same thing with gravity. If only you could get the potential out of the wheel on one side, without having to restore it, on the other side. For some reason, it's a little more obviously impossible with gravity, but the nature of the devices and the reasons why they won't work are identical. You're not 'making energy' you're using potential, or stored energy. A hydroelectric dam makes 'free energy' this way, but something has to truck all that water back up to the reservoir. The magnets can 'fall' together and make energy. But then that same amount of energy is required to pull them apart and restore them to their original distances, or potentials. There's never "just enough left over to make free energy out of a conceptual error".
Clearly you have not read all my other comments here. The video is a FAKE. If you would like, waste your time, and your money, then post a video. Thanks For Watching
Don't waste my time with your multiple posts nonsense. I try very hard not to block trolls, so you are getting VERY close. If you believe in this SCAM, post your video with ALL information so others can duplicate it. Enough of the posts.
THANK YOU! The cogging explains so much. But one hypothetical question... what if you reduced the amount of cogging as much as possible with multiple fans all connected to a single shaft? Say 5 fans all offset from each other by 20° to reduce the size of the cogging space to as little as possible. Then using 5 reversed magnets for each fan so there is not enough space for the cogging to have a major effect. So to sum up my question... Would reducing the cogging as much as possible make the fans spin?
I don't say that things will work, but what he doing on this video it will never work, because he didn't put north to north. And what he try to do by this video? To kill some interest of people? Ball sh...
Try alternating the poles of the magnets that are on the blade. For example, make a pattern: north, south, north, south. The magnet will attract to one of the magnets of the same poles but will also be repelled at the same time.
Hey , just a thought of mine. To help shed some light on the magnetic fields that seemed to show implausible free power fan motors. Maybe if you take a magnet from a computer hard drive and apply it to the fan blades you can get it to work. They have only one magnetic field on one side . The other side has some sort of magnetic block . I guess to keep the field from magnetism from destroying the computer.
it's true, i've tried it several times, but instead of using magnet, try to put it infront of a fan,. and.. don't forget to remove any electronic parts on the back of the coil,. this may affect the current, you can put wires directly on the coil end.
I have unsuccesfull tested this experiment... this is just waste of time and money, thanks for share with others, the honesty in this days is rare, rare then rare earth magnets (neodymium) All best regards from Romania :)
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I noticed that in the faker's video the claimant always keeps the stationary magnet part way out of the view of the camera. The magnet also appears to have a small hole drilled in it. There is probably an air pump located outside the camera's view and a hose going to the unseen side of the stationary magnet (which may not be a magnet at all). This blows a jet of air toward the fan causing it to spin. The motor inside the fan then acts like a generator to light the bulb. The outside power source is whatever is running the air pump.
Absolutely right! Impossible to make the fan spin with a magnet in a fixed position at the side. You can only make it spin, by circular movement of your hand holdin a magnet.
A fixed magnet will not get a case fan to instantly spin into smooth operation as shown in the scam videos. Never going to happen. What will work, are movable magnets to push the fan into motion. Thanks For Watching! Please be sure to share my channel, and rate Thumbs Up.
Hi, If you want the object to work, the magnets needs to be recessed into a none Ferris metal like Aluminum or any plastic or Teflon so that the sides of the magnets are not showing and just the south pole of the magnet is only. By doing this you are insulating the hole magnets and you are having just the south pole of the magnet showing only. Then your magnet motor will then work.
Disrupting the magnetic field would... disrupt the magnetic field. Shrouding the magnet would prevent it from working IF you could effectively shroud it. That said, NON-FERROUS metal doesn't dampen magnets so much as not interact with the field on an appreciable level.
How about if you were to use a brass or copper tube and have the neodymium magnet glued inside of the Brass or copper, would that act as the proper shielding to prevent the Togging effect?
Nothing conductive should be able to prevent a magnetic field unless it also has a magnetic field, if I remember correctly. I don't remember how Faraday cages work, or if copper alone emulates its effect.
what if 1) you put the magnets on alternate blades , would that help in minimizing the cogging... 2) use the magnet of same strength as the one you have used on the alternate fan blades Looking forward to your response Appreciate your experiments , Thanks
Hi there. I tried using alternating poles on the fan blades. That will not work. I have also tried other configurations as well. This will never spin as shown in the video using one stationary magnet. Even using a few magnets will not produce a smooth spinning case fan. Try for yourself. You will see. :-) Thanks For Wacthing!
Thats true ...While your N force to push ACW after its range S will stop rotation within completing your task and it will be S to N and equal force as your pull through opposite side i.e. S and N. Completely incomplete tech to have prototype i.e. peripheral motor or machine.
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I appreciate this video. I have myself tried to make this exact same device, with the same type of magnets, and found it also did not work. I was not accounting for, and will reemphasize something you mention in this video, addressing the fact that YES people make money via videos. Several thousands of dollars in some cases. So, it is a variable you have to calculate in judging fakes. The motivation can be simply money. regards.
Looking at the video in question, He went small dot magnets. The ones you used were high power. Try minimum magnets on the fan blades. I will be watching for that.
+Bob Anderson Hello. You watched the wrong video. The magnets were not dots. The device is a scam, you need to accept that fact. Even better, watch Part 2. All questions will come to an end. Thanks For Watching
Four years later and it still does not work. But one thing I did notice in one of the videos was that the electronic guts of the fan had been removed. The internal cogging of one of these fans is also great so overcoming it is next to impossible. Now putting two of the fans together such that the internal cogging was canceled out by each other you might get one to spin with external magnets.
I do respect your research. I meant to disprove your comments but life is testing my life. I would love for you to be patient and let me get back on my feet. I would be the first to admit I'm wrong if I am wrong.
You are wrong. You might s well admit it now. Perhaps the reason WHY your life is so bad right now is because you are a fool who has no science background.
Also check out the Searl Effect John E Searl I believe. And you need to Angle the magnets and have stationairy magnets and equal amount of magnets on the fan blades
Hi, and thanks for your very interesting and insightfull videos. I have a question regarding this set up. As you say the original video petraning to this one is fake but what would happen if you had a magnet on every other fan blade? Would this counter act the cogging or would it make it worse?
put two external magnets on a long pendulum, timed so one is always getting close and pulling magnet forward, then pulled away before it can lock, by which time a magnet on the opposite side is pulling it again. Heres the trick: Don't the the 2 dynamic magnets at the bottom of the pendulum, but nert the top with limiters. That way a long pendulum motion which will last, can spin a small wheel to generate power, using gravity and magnetism!
i do not have any magnets to try my own experiments yet. have you tried using magnets on every other fan blade or every 3rd fan blade, etc? it might prevent cogging? staggering the opposing magnets to prevent cogging?
I gave you a thumbs up!. Excellent I did the same experiment I ran into the same problem as you (cogging). I did find away to make it spin a little bit. After many hours of setting the magnets on the fan blade's. Magnets need to be set at the farthest end of the fan blade ( furthest from the center of fan. Kind of tricky since its hard to get my magnets to stick properly at such a spot. Now the magnets are as far apart as can be on the blades. Using a straight down ward motion on to the fan (of course this is cheating but I was desperate and needed something for my time spent) with two magnets on each side of the fan both hands at different times (moving downward and pulling away to avoid cogging) I could get it to spin but my timing was never perfect and so cogging soon was taking its effect. If magnets could be turned on and off with an electrical pulse I'm sure I could make it work. Thanks so much for your video.
Yes, using a movable magnet, or multiple movable magnets can get it to spin, but not smoothly. A single stationary magnet as shown in the video is pure BS. Thanks For Watching!
I just stumbled on that original video and thought this seems interesting. ( and most likely bullshit too ) . I had a feeling you would have a debunking video about this. That's one of many reasons I'm subscribed to you. You do good work my friend.
I made the bad descition of trying this on my own without debunking the video. I had the exact same cogging issue you had. I guess an upside is that i now have some good neodymium magnets to build with. I also subscribed to your channel.
+ɌΐϝϮ Gaming Thanks for watching. If something worked that I tested, I would immediately upload a video showing it. Be sure to watch Part 2 to see how the scam was likely pulled off.
more over you might just have noticed that the light is first disconnected then the magnet is removed, even the light bulb has another source. so does the fan for the rotation.
Thank you for speaking the truth, so many people tell so much lies. However there is a possibility of making one but requires some electronics involved and I am not sure if it is really a free energy motor, it will need to produce enough energy for the electronics so it can sustain it self. Shame on those who mislead others.
They have a motor driven disk under the table to provide the rotational power. Have them hold the fan in free air away from the table and see if they can make it spin!
The reason they used a fan is so that they can use air to make it move. If you're genuinely interested in this kind of stuff, I suggest looking at Howard Johnson's magnetic motor patents. Good luck!
@@electronicsNmore Do some actual research. It's obvious to me that you have no idea what you're doing. Your explanation of this toy shows a clear lack of understanding. There's no relay inside the original device. He uses an air current off camera to spin it. Furthermore, I don't believe in free energy devices. I pursue overunity builds that require an input current, but can produce more power than they require to operate. It involves multiple coils, magnets, diodes, and transistors. But hey, I'm in no position to tell anyone how to live, so by all means, have fun playing with your toys.
Check out PART 2 of this video which uses very thin neodymium disc magnets:
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electronicsNmore you gave a theory of how you think in fan actually worksput the device you suspected is inside the original inside yours and see if it worksotherwise your theory remains a theory
Same flickering output. Stop believing all the scams!
electronicsNmore
you aren't willing to insert the device you mentioned in the fan?
you haven't proven this is a scam then
you only presented a theory about how it works
STOP wasting my time.
electronicsNmore I have experimented with neo magnets and felt there is potential to create very useful mechanisms. For instance contact free transfer. I have a video posted way back where I constructed a basic contact free energy transfer demonstration. Based off the design of A/C generators and motors I would like to further research ideas for the potential to create a system that could create free energy from strong magnets. I feel there is likely a way to do this. Currently we use magnets to create electricity from an external power source. If further research is done I believe we can utilize magnet fields to do this with no drive source.
This is really a very simple situation. NOTHING like this can EVER work no matter how you arrange things. This is just a fact. Lots of people try this sort of thing but it never works, it can't. Any video showing something like this working is a fake. UA-cam needs more people like yourself who tell the truth. You're doing a good job. Well done and thank you.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'm nearing the completion of my Electrical Engineering degree, and it's frustrating to me when I come across people who think I'm part of the anti-free energy conspiracy.
Thanks for putting out these videos, it's nice to see someone who has the patience to respectfully approach the situation and put together these devices to show how they (don't) work.
Thanks For Watching. I'm very open minded to ideas/new things, but some things just don't work. Lets be realistic, if this really worked, the person would be patenting the idea, and making millions. People are way too trusting of many UA-cam videos. If this does work, then I expect someone to come forward with all the design specifics so it can easily be duplicated by others. Good luck with that.
electronicsNmore well said
many people misuse / misunderstand the word "free" in free energy
free energy doesn't mean energy you don't pay for
rzan8 And what does it mean exactly ?
Emmanuel Delahaye
energy can not be destroyed or created only converted
this is the law of the conservation of energy
so the "free" would mean creation of erergy without an input source
Thank you !
I am tired of these so-called free energy devices.
i hate scams. You will never find one on this channel.
I hate the phrase free energy. That phrase has closed people's minds to experimentation. Scams like this also make me angry.
The one thing you didn't do was rig up a switch to turn the fan on when you put the magnet close. I'm sure that's how it was done.
Thank you so much for this video. I was having trouble convincing my kids the video was fake. Good job!
The video is true. You are just scams in the comment section trying to convince people it's fake so they pay your companies....
@@anassdakki5790
So, you can make this work?
I tried this and it won't work.
Could you show me what I'm doing wrong?
@@anassdakki5790 Shut up, and take your schizophrenia medication.
6 Não funciona,tem truques
- belo truques,pois não funciona!
Notice how NONE of the people who gave a thumbs down, offered to show any proof that this works. Typical trolls.
*****
The cogging effect is very hard to overcome. Is it possible? Anything is possible, but highly unlikely as the uploader showed. Remember, the individual stated that all he did was glue magnets to each fan blade then use another magnet to push it into smooth operation. Based on that, it is not going to happen.
Unfortunately, I do not believe this type of free energy device will ever work; not even with monopoles. The problem is that for every south pole this is an opposite and equal north pole, or the south pole has to be brought closer to the stationary magnet before it can repel away. Cogging should not be a big deal with enough rotational inertia. If you draw out the field lines for all the magnets, you will see a few that will counteract the desired force. Every design I have found thus far has that problem.
See my videos Magneti Motor BS and Magnetic Motor BS2 for a simple explanation why this is not possible. Good Video BTW.
Power Max
Where can I obtain bagnets, and just how do they work?
Power Max Monopoles are theoretical. They do not exist in our reality.
Thank you for showing that this is bogus. My son saw one of the fake videos and has tried and tried to make it work for his science fair project. It wouldn't work, he got the same results as you. I was able to show him your video and let him know it was not his fault. Unfortunately he spent a week and a half of his time trying to get it to work before I stepped in, and now he is disappointed with what he has to turn in at school. It is truly sad what people will do to get a few views online.
same, I'm doing this for my science fair and I have no other way but to hand in this stupid design
ur son has learned much of his future lifes..
Great explanation. It SEEMS like there should be a way to do this with magnets, which is why people are drawn to this sort of thing.
something like this should be on mythbuster on Discovery channel as well.
that should be lots of fun.
+Min-Bau Liao great ideai'll send it in
mythbuster is financed by big corporations. They will never let the little people not pay for energy.
These videos are great. I thought of a similar design, which wouldn't work of course, but I wasn't sure exactly why. Thanks for explaining and debunking these.
Thanks. U
Kudos to you for being skeptical!
I'm surprised that a smart man such as yourself would even have to try this to know it cannot work, lets say this is to show other people that it will not work to save them the frustration of failure. It looks like it should work but really can't, ever work. Keep up the good work on your other videos.
Lets just say that I more or less figured it would not work. but I wanted to put the video out there to inform others and save them the time/trouble of trying it out themselves.
what if u used the same idea but put a horizontal axis on a vertical wheel with multiple magnets facing the same way, place the wheel over the fan, and set it spinning, just an educated guess as to what would overcome the "cogging" effect... both the fan and the wheel could potentially spin indefinately... OR use monopole magnets on the fan blades so the opposite magnetic fields are not affected, i dont have the cash right now for the experiment but i will definately try it out... also is it possible even for this fan to produce electricity instead of acting as a load... you might try setting it spinning with a dremel tool with a load attatched to the wires from the fan, i really appreciate what you are doing here :)
I think this is a great idea and tommy is right and he is a very smart man I respect him greatly
Since all magnets would be moving, the odds of getting the fan to spin would be much higher, but you will likely experience problems maintaining a smooth spinning fan.
The Three Laws Of Thermodynamics:
1) You can't win
2) You can't even break even
3) You can't escape laws 1 and 2
Harry Andruschak the laws of thermodynamics are laws created by Humans who have no understanding of the universe and try to make meaning of chaos.
@@MrPepsicola123 you said it...
Thank you for Explorer exposing all the Liars on UA-cam. It makes sense what you say. There should be more honest people like yourself.
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Set it up so the fan also turns a little crank attached to a rod with lobes on it like a cam shaft. This will avoid cogging and will simulate turning a magnet on and off
I'm curious, what if you had equal amounts of magnets, opposite poles - say two fans placed on top?
Or maybe you need one solid magnet north, and a larger one, south to prevent the cogging? To have no spaces between the magnets...
Hello, Please watch Part 2, all questions will come to an end. Thanks
The only positive thing those fake energy vids achieve is to get people to think. Good job on your investigative vid.
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i dont know much about magnetic fields but could you try having the magnets on the fan facing south. then, have another fan facing magnetic north and place them next to each other, that way the magnets keep landing within the same levels? just play around with the fields lol
Finally an honest youtube channel. I wonder why people post garbage and claim to have built a perpetual motion generator. It pisses me off.
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put coils of wire next to the sides and let the wind turn the fan.
You need to add a soda straw to your setup.
Blow through the straw, aimed at the fan, as you bring the magnet close.
It will spin! :) (BTW: It spins best if the outer magnet isn't a magnet at all...)
Unfortunately some people have no clue how much damage they do with fake clips about free-energy.
EXACTLY. Those morons make people think that every other device is also fake.
*****wenn ich jetzt ein paar radial magnetisierte magnete nehme funktioniert das dann genauso wie wenn ich einen langen runden radial magneten nehme? (hurricane balls meine ich bzw searl)
I guess you did not watch the full video. This person made people waste their time AND money trying to replicate this scam. That is the damage.
They know. They don't care. Because the page views make THEM money.
FuckYouGooglePlus Money will be worthless soon. They'll realize this mistake when it's too late.
It's because your disc magnets are axially magnetized. Try disc magnets that are magnetized diametrically through thickness. Thanks for sharing this, and your diagrams on how your poles are placed. That was a huge help!
I know about the other magnets, but the individual used magnets that were magnetized axially.
Thanks For Watching!
Yes you are right, I got the terms switched huh? Good catch, but the diagram I believe is the incorrect magnet type? Not saying it'll work when switched but I'm gonna try it. Got them in the mail already.
If you have a stationery magnet that created free energy you wouldn't need UA-cam likes. You'd create perpetual energy and be a multi-millionaire.
+john sims it doesn't create energyit converts magnetic power to kinetic energy
You are bad at physics. Research "cogging" and understand why this is a scam.
john sims
cogging can be a problem in a device like this but there are ways to solve cogging problems
it's not an automatic death knell
so if this is fake is John Christies magnetic motor also fake?
google it
this is in no way close to a magnetic motor. This fan has a battery in it with a switch that is connected when magnetized. Use your brain not your eyes.
john sims
so you are saying some of the magnetic motors do work?
Finally a video who shows this device in a objective way, I really needed this video for my students because they insist endlessly that this device can work, that the physics laws are wrong, that we are brainwashed etc. I have tried several Free energy scams before for my students, none works ofc.
I was so tired to find so many fakes all over the internet, Thank you for posting this video, you saved me time and money.
you need MONO pole magnets on the fan, or you need a cct to swap feilds at the right time, or something that "spins a interference feild at the right time... thats the tricky part.
try this and see what i mean, .. spin your interference magnet with your hand but on an axis near or in the "sweet spot" you have to find it, but not hard.. you will get a few actual spins to prove concept..... but not a working motor .. yet.
Thank you . I watched the fake video first with my son and daughter, and then happened to see yours. I am grateful you took the time to post this, as we were pretty impressed with the fakers work. As disappointed as we were, and as much as we didn't want yours to be convincing, we really are thankful for learning more about magnetic forces, but also how to apply a little common sense and critical thinking when listening and viewing research.
Kindest regards and with respect, jm
Thanks For Watching JM. Common sense can go a long way. If motors did not require electricity to power them, then you would see these magnet motors being made and sold by people just like me. Even if others tried to suppress the idea, the device would still be leaked and sold online to you and I.
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Seriously, every single one of you who thinks this guy is wrong, have you EVER been to school and how the fuck did you pass physics? Dude, I really think you're dealing with some kids here who lack basic knowledge on how the world works.
In a few days I will be uploading a very good video showing how the hoax was and could have been pulled off. All the thumbs down people will look stupid. Many videos on UA-cam showing "Free Energy" devices are nothing more than illusions and trickery.
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glad someone took it on to educate the people on the internet, you should throw in some physics rules in it too
Едуард Георгиев the capitalist government paid @electronicsNmore to fool people
and forget free energy of tesla.. lol
Sure they are. LOL. You make yourself look very dumb by posting comments like that.
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Thank for posting, you have saved me hours trying.
You're welcome!
Easy! You need to use monopole magnets. ;)
When you find them, send me a couple. LOL
That was a good one !
the outer magnets would need to spin to continuously attract the magnets attached to the fan blades, but they would only spin until friction slows them to stopping, it's a very tricky near impossible task to make the motor work without applying power to the system, which would make it pointless. but it is still worth exploring different options.
@Rahat Ibn Nabi
Based on the testing I have done, which is more extensive than what is shown in this video, I can say you WILL NOT get a single magnet to push a case fan into smooth spinning operation. Not going to happen. If you doubt it, then try it! Very simple to prove to yourself.
Clearly it is very easy to fake videos if you are good at video editing. Don't be so trusting.
Pablo Garcia
Don't waste my time. Either PROVE this works by making a video and testing it out for yourself, or stop carrying on. I'm seriously considering creating a new channel just for making free energy scam videos since so many people believe in them.
Pablo Garcia
More like how gullible. Find me one computer case fan that you can buy online that spins freely using one magnet as shown in this video, or multiple magnets(NO WIND), and produces endless power. LOL. Please do so and post the link here for all the viewers to see. Clearly people would be duplicating this device like crazy and making lots of money selling them online. Show us. I would like to buy one. The Chinese would have already duplicated and mass produced this device for sale.
Pablo Garcia Also, you can see many different people who can saw a woman in half and put her back together. You can clearly see that she is in two pieces, so it must be real. I tried it and killed the woman next door. Maybe I should try it with a sharper saw.
Pablo Garcia Bloggers have credibility?? That's a new one. Pablo, yes, magnets repel when their like poles face one another. But they repel in BOTH directions. The next magnet on the circle can't get into proper position because it gets pushed backwards. The fan is being forced to turn in two directions at the same time. The net result is it doesn't move at all.
Perhaps you should do what thousands before you have done. Try it yourself.
Angle of blades on fan. You want less cfm, less resistance. And position the magnets close to the tip of each blade. IT WORKED!
You could always try alternating the magnets so that it wouldn't create that stickiness problem
He tried it, nothing worked.
Your right dude i been trying to do it on my own and use different types of magnets but no LUCK at all..
I can Conclude that it is fake.
I cannot help but notice, how the fan is kind of jiggling when it spins. Its not spinning very fluently/balance.
What I can say though is that the fan is indeed genuinely spinning using the magnets stuck to the fan blade reacting to the magnet he is holding.
But why does the fan jiggle? I believe that he dismantled the fan and took out what was inside of the middle of it (the PCB, wiring, etc. This then will allow the fan to spin easily using the magnets because of less friction.)
And then :
With the amount of space he created after cleaning out what was inside the middle of the fan (that large circular in the middle of the fan that usually houses the electronics that causes the fan to spin if connected to power).
The amount of space is then FILLED with "circular Batteries", enough batteries to power the LED Bulb he is using. The Circular Batteries are basically housed inside the middle of the fan and those batteries are connected to the red and black wires. So that when he connects the bulb to the wires it lights up.
Basically even if he doesnt do that magnet spinning fan Gimmick, by Simply connecting the black and red wires to the bulb it will still light up even without having to spin the fans. Because the red and black wire is actually hook up to the circular battery housed inside the middle of the fan.
In the video
1> He saids if he stops spinning the fan using magnets, the bulb don't light up... Why? Thats because he also pulls out the Black Wire as soon as he stops spinning the Fan using the Magnet.
^But actually even if he doesn't make the fan spin using the magnet, the bulb will stay light up because it is actually powered by circular batteries found in the middle of the fan. Those batteries are then connected to the red and black wire he is using which are originally connected to the original fan electronics.
2> He tested the Bulb and it lit up using a Double AA battery. Okay thats legit. But He didn't test the fan if it works if he plugs it on a PC Power supply.
^Thats because he gutted out the middle electronics of the fan and replaced the electronics with circular batteries. so even if he connected the fan into a Power Supply Molex power connector, it Won't spin.
I agree, but why send more viewers his way to make more money from the scam video? I would remove the link from your post.
electronicsNmore ah ye my bad, wanted to make sure we were on the same page and that you are referring to that particular video.
But I am pretty sure thats how he did it.
Its just the fact that he tested the bulb works with a power source i.e. the battery but he didn't test if the fans work if connected to a Power supply.
then when he showed how the bulb starts when he spins the fans and it stops when he doesn't let the fan spins.
it wasn't about the fan spinning that makes the bulb light up at all. But it was because of him pulling out the black wire supplying the power.
I am pretty sure even if he keeps the fan not spinning, the bulb will still light up just by connecting the black and red wire to the bulb.
I have seen quite alot of 120mm PC case fan "free energy" videos, and I can see most of them utilizes the same gimmick using low power LED bulb and circular batteries placed in the middle of the fan/hub.
dose a fan like that even make any power when you spin it i know its a motor but these fans have control circuitry that could stop any power form going back out of the fan
Many of those case fans do not produce any power when you spin them, but I have come across a few that did produce power when you spin them.
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I have seen it and concluded that it is a fake, also!
Thank you for such a interesting and mature video in all aspects! It was truly pleasent to watch and I liked how you very profesionally explained the details and had so many things subbed into those red boxes. =) It felt like watching a very professional document of a sort, and I like that. :)
Also I saw a (not sure if the) scam video of this fan first and I was genuinely surprized how easily I believed what I saw there and I'm 28 years old (not trying to be better being older than say a 15 years old but to state that as a young adult I ought to question more what I've been told).
So thanks to you and your explicitly detailed and honest video I feel I've been reminded of not being a member of the massive cattle of non-thinking-for-themselves people. :)
And for my part to prevent anyone from accusing me for being sarcastic or something with all my honest/genuine/valid praises regarding this video: I am 100% serious on every word I've just written here.
P.S. I subscribed way before and would've even if there wouldn't have been any suggestion/hint for to do so. :)
WandaII Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching and subscribing.
maybe it would work if you added a battery
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I am trying the exact same thing. I to am having problems with it spinning. The video that shows it spinning looked like he used refrigerator magnets not sure what kind he had in his hand. You make a good point.
A classic aphorism comes to mind: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Very well said. Tried this myself, and debunked.
I wish more viewers were smart enough to try this themselves before posting comments on my video how I did certain things incorrectly, or rating it a thumbs down.
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electronicsNmore
I find this concept very interesting. Noticing with these fans that there is magnetic resistance within the motor itself while static, attributing more resistance to the cogging effect. I was able to get a disc that was levitating on a 52gauss neodymium field held with a brass tube in the center to spin with this fan concept since there was no interference from the fan motor... Though, of course there is no way to then generate or harness the energy and utilize it. but still interesting to watch static objects create motion.
The problem doesn't have a damned thing to do with what size magnets go on the blades or the pushing magnet, blah blah blah, as long as you can get a big external magnet to push the blade magnets then that part is fine.
THE PROBLEM is the fan that is being used! Almost all modern cheap fan motors like that aren't capable of making electricity. You have to find an older model fan THAT HAS MAGNETS INSIDE of the case that is part of the original design. There is NOTHING fancy or magical here, the principal is the same as a wind generator. Go look at how a wind generator is made and you will see both wire coils and magnets, the wind turns the blades passing the magnets and coils over each other to make electricity.
The ONLY thing different here, as long as you have a fan with magnets and there isn't any blocking diodes or crap like that inside that needs removed, is that you are using the glued on magnets and a big external magnet to REPLACE THE WIND to spin the fan.
If you can't hold the little fan up to a big fan and have the little one making electricity (checked with a volt meter) then putting magnets on the blades isn't going to do a damned thing!!
Soooo... You need a fan with internal magnets and it can't have circuitry that is blocking current flow from your test meter. Pretty damned simple.
What does your comment have to do with the video being a scam? Which it is? Your correct that some case fans can produce a voltage when placed in the the wind to allow the blades to spin, but many others do not as a result of the internal circuitry. The purpose of this video was to show that you will not have a free spinning case fan using only magnets. If you doubt this, then I suggest you purchase a case fan and magnets. I assure you that you will be HIGHLY disappointed with the results.
Thanks For Watching.
HAHA ! I love these videos ! Not the set-up itself, any reasonably competent school kid could make it, but reading all the comments, divided between “This can’t work - it’s scientifically impossible!” and “It DOES work! I have tried it!”. They are lying of course.
If anyone is wondering WHY it doesn’t work, you don’t need to go into conservation of energy or that the magnets are ‘storing’ energy (they don’t). It’s just that you can’t make a motor out of just fixed permanent magnets - no matter how you arrange them, the thing will simply not turn. True, the magnet in your hand is pushing one magnet on the fan ‘forwards’, but it is also pushing the magnet behind it ‘backwards’ and the fan will just move into a position where those forces are equal and the thing never goes any further…
You put the poles wrong. It should be n-n-s-n-s-n-s. start rotating at the double n magnet. Use low energy magnets on the blades. Then it works. Please make a new video to inform the people.
Hi, I'm just trying to put this thing to work myself, the only BIG problem in all this magnetic stuff is actually the magnetic field itself... in other words: Unless the field lines of every magnet in the cogging zone are parallel (sure they aren't at all) this will NOT work. The diverging lines at both sides of magnets will always cause to the fan blades to "oscillate" around an ideal point where soon they will stabilize, that means also that when you try to get past of that point, the small magnets glued on the blades will be attracted back to that point, no matter how you put the big magnet on them, it will be always the same, the closer it is, the stronger the effect, you can actually feel it while trying to keep it steady over the fan when you give it a spin, it seems like a "vibration". In my opinion, it's just impossible. Have a nice day
Hey Deimos. Glad you tried this out, I wish others would do the same before posting stupid comments on my video, or rating it a thumbs down. If this did work, it would be great because I could really put a device like this to work! Unfortunately this will never work as shown in the original uploaded video.
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Haha, I just made this video as well.
Great video btw (enough of those fake videos!)
Wait, I think this free energy method would actually work.... You just need a few more magnets ;) #Thermodynamics
Jeremy Cook
Try it out, if you get it to work upload a video with all the details to duplicate it. Remember, the purpose of this video was to show that this will not work as the uploader showed. Adding more magnets (which I tried) is not what the other individual did in his video. He used 8 magnets in total.
Jeremy Cook Save your superglue, it does not work ;)
Matt Heilman I'm sure - was kidding!
Thanks a lot, man. Now I can give my little brother all my magnets, he's been begging for days =))
Your welcome. Save your time and money trying to replicate this.
thank you for saving me $thousands of dollars. I have always thought about this and wanted to build a prototype on a larger scale. I have a drawing I would like to send you to see what you think. .....thanks again .
+Cuku Kenivel
Hey there. Unfortunately these devices will not work. BTW, you look exactly like a friend of mine from my college years.
uhhhhh.....where did you go to college ? that pic was when I was in college.
I thought the thinner magnets did work .... what am I missing ?
+Cuku Kenivel
In Florida. Check out Part 2 in the video description area. I use very thin magnets. :-)
i still want to send you this drawing ...
Florida ??? Well your friend must be one handsome SOB.... cause I am too. LOL !!!!
Nice vid. Do these scammers suffer any legal consequences on YT?
No, they do it to make money. It draws in gullible viewers so they can make money through ads placed on their videos. Thanks for watching!
Even if this does work (not saying it doesn't) it is not perpetual motion for 2 reasons
1. magnets do lose their magnetic ability
2. It is technically not perpetual motion because perpetual motion is motion not affected by force of any kind
Perpetual motion is impossible no matter how you look at it if you find soothing that is perpetual than pls let me know because it is not possible. they say I you throw a ball in space it goes for ever so if you spin something in space it would go forever. FALSE because it would eventually stop because of dark matter even dark matter has friction it may take a million or so years but it will eventually stop true perpetual motion means an action that is repetitive over and over again for ever as long as no outside force acts upon it the closest thing to perpetual motion we have is an electrical circuit so think about it even the universe will lose its energy may be way past any persons lifetime that will ever read this comment but it will end it is not something I hate to think about but it will happen.
The guy who made the free energy video you mention is using a light bulb from a magic store. It is the same type light bulb used by Uncle Fester in the Adams family TV show/movies. It has batteries in the base, and the base is plastic and fake looking. (It's made to stick in your mouth after all.) The on switch is on the base, where he touches the wire. His fan is most likely moving due to a blast of air directed at the fan.
I subscribed because your not a liar thanks for being a good person
Thanks Mike. I only upload REAL videos. :-)
How did u get past the cogging issue? My build is seizing about every tenth spin.
Never did get past it.
I agree with you 100%.. its pretty obvious that it is not possible to get a blade spinning in both directions at once.. If you have a S magnet followed by another S magnet attached and you put another S magnet between them you are going to get the magnets repelling in different directions.. In order for a blade to spin you would need a S to be pushed on the blade followed by a N on another blade to pull it towards the stationary magnet.. Problem is that the S magnet following that N magnet will once again want to repel in the opposite direction while the N magnet tries to become stationary.. Either way you are only going to achieve some minor rocking, eventually finding the blade achieving a lock point.. Common sense says that this video is correct. How anyone could argue the opposite is beyond me..
cmon man, wrong fan wrong angel .........im convinced you work for the power company's.....
Stop talking stupid. Watch Part 2, you may actually learn something. :-)
The chance of this working isn't slim, or next to nil. It's nil. It's vaguely interesting that you tried this over and over, but it's like trying to prove that socks don't fly. You don't need to throw socks up in the air over and over to show that no matter what you do, they just won't fly. Permanent magnets are seductive because they seem to make a free force. But it's the same as gravity - there's a force there, but as soon as you exhaust the potential energy, you have to restore the potential, to make it work again. The magnets that are driven away from the stationary magnet going one way, are attracted to it after they circle around. Consider: if you decided to call it an attraction motor instead of a repulsion motor, you wouldn't need to reconfigure it because it's attracting and repelling at the same time. The motor works conceptually by neglecting one side of the system.
And of course, people will try this same thing with gravity. If only you could get the potential out of the wheel on one side, without having to restore it, on the other side. For some reason, it's a little more obviously impossible with gravity, but the nature of the devices and the reasons why they won't work are identical. You're not 'making energy' you're using potential, or stored energy. A hydroelectric dam makes 'free energy' this way, but something has to truck all that water back up to the reservoir. The magnets can 'fall' together and make energy. But then that same amount of energy is required to pull them apart and restore them to their original distances, or potentials. There's never "just enough left over to make free energy out of a conceptual error".
Dude have you tried getting rid of some magnets at the fan? that may reduce the cogging... maybe
Clearly you have not read all my other comments here. The video is a FAKE. If you would like, waste your time, and your money, then post a video.
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Don't waste my time with your multiple posts nonsense. I try very hard not to block trolls, so you are getting VERY close. If you believe in this SCAM, post your video with ALL information so others can duplicate it. Enough of the posts.
Oh. OK. I apologize. :-)
THANK YOU! The cogging explains so much. But one hypothetical question... what if you reduced the amount of cogging as much as possible with multiple fans all connected to a single shaft? Say 5 fans all offset from each other by 20° to reduce the size of the cogging space to as little as possible. Then using 5 reversed magnets for each fan so there is not enough space for the cogging to have a major effect.
So to sum up my question... Would reducing the cogging as much as possible make the fans spin?
Of course it is fake, if it works they would be sold everywhere.
if its sold everywhere , you'd be dead
Came to the comments to see all the people proposing their one of a kind ideas to overcome this issue.
I don't say that things will work, but what he doing on this video it will never work, because he didn't put north to north. And what he try to do by this video? To kill some interest of people?
Ball sh...
That is so true
Try alternating the poles of the magnets that are on the blade. For example, make a pattern: north, south, north, south. The magnet will attract to one of the magnets of the same poles but will also be repelled at the same time.
Victor Zarate Refer to my other video to see how it was done.
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Thank You
Thank for your sincere explanation. I think your plan would work if fan blade were to be plastic or non meter material.
It would never work. Watch Part 2!
can we connect an motor to it ,,and supply the generated voltage to the same motor is that possible??
Please watch Part 2. :-)
Hey , just a thought of mine. To help shed some light on the magnetic fields that seemed to show implausible free power fan motors. Maybe if you take a magnet from a computer hard drive and apply it to the fan blades you can get it to work. They have only one magnetic field on one side . The other side has some sort of magnetic block . I guess to keep the field from magnetism from destroying the computer.
+Sweetz H
Please watch Part 2. Thanks
it's true, i've tried it several times, but instead of using magnet, try to put it infront of a fan,. and.. don't forget to remove any electronic parts on the back of the coil,. this may affect the current, you can put wires directly on the coil end.
ronel janeo A fan?! An electric fan?! 😂
I have unsuccesfull tested this experiment... this is just waste of time and money, thanks for share with others, the honesty in this days is rare, rare then rare earth magnets (neodymium)
All best regards from Romania :)
Domuta Marcel Thank you Domuta. Yes, as you also confirmed, it is fake. Unfortunately there are a large # of people that believe in these UA-cam scam videos.
Check out part 2 showing how the scam is done:
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I noticed that in the faker's video the claimant always keeps the stationary magnet part way out of the view of the camera. The magnet also appears to have a small hole drilled in it. There is probably an air pump located outside the camera's view and a hose going to the unseen side of the stationary magnet (which may not be a magnet at all). This blows a jet of air toward the fan causing it to spin. The motor inside the fan then acts like a generator to light the bulb. The outside power source is whatever is running the air pump.
Absolutely right! Impossible to make the fan spin with a magnet in a fixed position at the side. You can only make it spin, by circular movement of your hand holdin a magnet.
A fixed magnet will not get a case fan to instantly spin into smooth operation as shown in the scam videos. Never going to happen. What will work, are movable magnets to push the fan into motion.
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Hi, If you want the object to work, the magnets needs to be recessed into a none Ferris metal like Aluminum or any plastic or Teflon so that the sides of the magnets are not showing and just the south pole of the magnet is only. By doing this you are insulating the hole magnets and you are having just the south pole of the magnet showing only. Then your magnet motor will then work.
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Disrupting the magnetic field would... disrupt the magnetic field. Shrouding the magnet would prevent it from working IF you could effectively shroud it. That said, NON-FERROUS metal doesn't dampen magnets so much as not interact with the field on an appreciable level.
How about if you were to use a brass or copper tube and have the neodymium magnet glued inside of the Brass or copper, would that act as the proper shielding to prevent the Togging effect?
Nothing conductive should be able to prevent a magnetic field unless it also has a magnetic field, if I remember correctly. I don't remember how Faraday cages work, or if copper alone emulates its effect.
O key! And thank You for your input, I do appreciate it.
what if
1) you put the magnets on alternate blades , would that help in minimizing the cogging...
2) use the magnet of same strength as the one you have used on the alternate fan blades
Looking forward to your response
Appreciate your experiments , Thanks
Hi there.
I tried using alternating poles on the fan blades. That will not work. I have also tried other configurations as well. This will never spin as shown in the video using one stationary magnet. Even using a few magnets will not produce a smooth spinning case fan. Try for yourself. You will see. :-)
Thanks For Wacthing!
Thanks for the speedy reply, will follow your channel.. Appreciate your time
Your welcome.
Thats true ...While your N force to push ACW after its range S will stop rotation within completing your task and it will be S to N and equal force as your pull through opposite side i.e. S and N. Completely incomplete tech to have prototype i.e. peripheral motor or machine.
thanks for posting this. i was trying do make a generator and I had the same problems with this project.
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I gave your video a thumbs up this was vary help full. I been trying to get this to work for a long time and was having the same problems.
thank you very much sir, i was just about to do it myself, your video saved me time and money.
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I'm too late, i buy everything for this fake project, and i'm so upset
First law of thermodynamics applauds you.
Good to hear. :-)
I appreciate this video. I have myself tried to make this exact same device, with the same type of magnets, and found it also did not work.
I was not accounting for, and will reemphasize something you mention in this video, addressing the fact that YES people make money via videos. Several thousands of dollars in some cases. So, it is a variable you have to calculate in judging fakes. The motivation can be simply money.
regards.
Looking at the video in question, He went small dot magnets. The ones you used were high power. Try minimum magnets on the fan blades. I will be watching for that.
+Bob Anderson
Hello. You watched the wrong video. The magnets were not dots. The device is a scam, you need to accept that fact. Even better, watch Part 2. All questions will come to an end.
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God bless you sir for proving that claim is fake.
Awesome video. This saved me a day in the shed trying it out. Thanks for posting, well done.
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Four years later and it still does not work. But one thing I did notice in one of the videos was that the electronic guts of the fan had been removed. The internal cogging of one of these fans is also great so overcoming it is next to impossible. Now putting two of the fans together such that the internal cogging was canceled out by each other you might get one to spin with external magnets.
I do respect your research. I meant to disprove your comments but life is testing my life.
I would love for you to be patient and let me get back on my feet. I would be the first to admit I'm wrong if I am wrong.
You are wrong. You might s well admit it now.
Perhaps the reason WHY your life is so bad right now is because you are a fool who has no science background.
Also check out the Searl Effect John E Searl I believe. And you need to Angle the magnets and have stationairy magnets and equal amount of magnets on the fan blades
I also did this experiment and you are so damn right unfortunately others videos are all fake
Hi, and thanks for your very interesting and insightfull videos.
I have a question regarding this set up.
As you say the original video petraning to this one is fake but what would happen if you had a magnet on every other fan blade?
Would this counter act the cogging or would it make it worse?
I would think that it would be worse due to wider spacing.
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put two external magnets on a long pendulum, timed so one is always getting close and pulling magnet forward, then pulled away before it can lock, by which time a magnet on the opposite side is pulling it again. Heres the trick: Don't the the 2 dynamic magnets at the bottom of the pendulum, but nert the top with limiters. That way a long pendulum motion which will last, can spin a small wheel to generate power, using gravity and magnetism!
Watch Part 2. :-)
i do not have any magnets to try my own experiments yet. have you tried using magnets on every other fan blade or every 3rd fan blade, etc? it might prevent cogging? staggering the opposing magnets to prevent cogging?
I gave you a thumbs up!. Excellent I did the same experiment I ran into the same problem as you (cogging). I did find away to make it spin a little bit. After many hours of setting the magnets on the fan blade's. Magnets need to be set at the farthest end of the fan blade ( furthest from the center of fan. Kind of tricky since its hard to get my magnets to stick properly at such a spot. Now the magnets are as far apart as can be on the blades. Using a straight down ward motion on to the fan (of course this is cheating but I was desperate and needed something for my time spent) with two magnets on each side of the fan both hands at different times (moving downward and pulling away to avoid cogging) I could get it to spin but my timing was never perfect and so cogging soon was taking its effect. If magnets could be turned on and off with an electrical pulse I'm sure I could make it work. Thanks so much for your video.
Yes, using a movable magnet, or multiple movable magnets can get it to spin, but not smoothly. A single stationary magnet as shown in the video is pure BS.
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thanks for explanation but tell me more about self running motor is it real or fake? please guide me.
Shit like this would be viable only if we had magnetic monopoles, lol.
thanks for the video!
after watching one of these, i totally forgot to mention the opposite pole.
I just stumbled on that original video and thought this seems interesting. ( and most likely bullshit too ) . I had a feeling you would have a debunking video about this. That's one of many reasons I'm subscribed to you. You do good work my friend.
+OneRoomShed
Hi there. Be sure to watch Part 2! That video is really good. :-). Thanks
+OneRoomShed
Hi there. Be sure to watch Part 2! That video is really good. :-). Thanks
I made the bad descition of trying this on my own without debunking the video. I had the exact same cogging issue you had. I guess an upside is that i now have some good neodymium magnets to build with. I also subscribed to your channel.
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Thanks for watching. If something worked that I tested, I would immediately upload a video showing it. Be sure to watch Part 2 to see how the scam was likely pulled off.
No problem, and I'm going to go ahead and watch that now.
more over you might just have noticed that the light is first disconnected then the magnet is removed, even the light bulb has another source. so does the fan for the rotation.
Thank you for speaking the truth, so many people tell so much lies. However there is a possibility of making one but requires some electronics involved and I am not sure if it is really a free energy motor, it will need to produce enough energy for the electronics so it can sustain it self. Shame on those who mislead others.
+TheElectrochemistry1
Please watch Part 2. You will definitely enjoy that video. Shows how the scam was more than likely done.
Hi, I even tried a bonus magnet over the top and on the sides, with no joy at all, thanks for info video
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They have a motor driven disk under the table to provide the rotational power. Have them hold the fan in free air away from the table and see if they can make it spin!
The reason they used a fan is so that they can use air to make it move. If you're genuinely interested in this kind of stuff, I suggest looking at Howard Johnson's magnetic motor patents. Good luck!
You're wasting your time with these "Free Energy" devices, if they really worked, every person would be making them in their garage.
@@electronicsNmore Do some actual research. It's obvious to me that you have no idea what you're doing. Your explanation of this toy shows a clear lack of understanding. There's no relay inside the original device. He uses an air current off camera to spin it. Furthermore, I don't believe in free energy devices. I pursue overunity builds that require an input current, but can produce more power than they require to operate. It involves multiple coils, magnets, diodes, and transistors. But hey, I'm in no position to tell anyone how to live, so by all means, have fun playing with your toys.