electronicsNmore you gave a theory of how you think in fan actually worksput the device you suspected is inside the original inside yours and see if it worksotherwise your theory remains a theory
electronicsNmore you aren't willing to insert the device you mentioned in the fan? you haven't proven this is a scam then you only presented a theory about how it works
electronicsNmore I have experimented with neo magnets and felt there is potential to create very useful mechanisms. For instance contact free transfer. I have a video posted way back where I constructed a basic contact free energy transfer demonstration. Based off the design of A/C generators and motors I would like to further research ideas for the potential to create a system that could create free energy from strong magnets. I feel there is likely a way to do this. Currently we use magnets to create electricity from an external power source. If further research is done I believe we can utilize magnet fields to do this with no drive source.
This is really a very simple situation. NOTHING like this can EVER work no matter how you arrange things. This is just a fact. Lots of people try this sort of thing but it never works, it can't. Any video showing something like this working is a fake. UA-cam needs more people like yourself who tell the truth. You're doing a good job. Well done and thank you.
I'm nearing the completion of my Electrical Engineering degree, and it's frustrating to me when I come across people who think I'm part of the anti-free energy conspiracy. Thanks for putting out these videos, it's nice to see someone who has the patience to respectfully approach the situation and put together these devices to show how they (don't) work.
Thanks For Watching. I'm very open minded to ideas/new things, but some things just don't work. Lets be realistic, if this really worked, the person would be patenting the idea, and making millions. People are way too trusting of many UA-cam videos. If this does work, then I expect someone to come forward with all the design specifics so it can easily be duplicated by others. Good luck with that.
Emmanuel Delahaye energy can not be destroyed or created only converted this is the law of the conservation of energy so the "free" would mean creation of erergy without an input source
@Rahat Ibn Nabi Based on the testing I have done, which is more extensive than what is shown in this video, I can say you WILL NOT get a single magnet to push a case fan into smooth spinning operation. Not going to happen. If you doubt it, then try it! Very simple to prove to yourself.
Pablo Garcia Don't waste my time. Either PROVE this works by making a video and testing it out for yourself, or stop carrying on. I'm seriously considering creating a new channel just for making free energy scam videos since so many people believe in them.
Pablo Garcia More like how gullible. Find me one computer case fan that you can buy online that spins freely using one magnet as shown in this video, or multiple magnets(NO WIND), and produces endless power. LOL. Please do so and post the link here for all the viewers to see. Clearly people would be duplicating this device like crazy and making lots of money selling them online. Show us. I would like to buy one. The Chinese would have already duplicated and mass produced this device for sale.
Pablo Garcia Also, you can see many different people who can saw a woman in half and put her back together. You can clearly see that she is in two pieces, so it must be real. I tried it and killed the woman next door. Maybe I should try it with a sharper saw.
Pablo Garcia Bloggers have credibility?? That's a new one. Pablo, yes, magnets repel when their like poles face one another. But they repel in BOTH directions. The next magnet on the circle can't get into proper position because it gets pushed backwards. The fan is being forced to turn in two directions at the same time. The net result is it doesn't move at all. Perhaps you should do what thousands before you have done. Try it yourself.
***** The cogging effect is very hard to overcome. Is it possible? Anything is possible, but highly unlikely as the uploader showed. Remember, the individual stated that all he did was glue magnets to each fan blade then use another magnet to push it into smooth operation. Based on that, it is not going to happen.
Unfortunately, I do not believe this type of free energy device will ever work; not even with monopoles. The problem is that for every south pole this is an opposite and equal north pole, or the south pole has to be brought closer to the stationary magnet before it can repel away. Cogging should not be a big deal with enough rotational inertia. If you draw out the field lines for all the magnets, you will see a few that will counteract the desired force. Every design I have found thus far has that problem.
dose a fan like that even make any power when you spin it i know its a motor but these fans have control circuitry that could stop any power form going back out of the fan
Many of those case fans do not produce any power when you spin them, but I have come across a few that did produce power when you spin them. Thanks For Watching!
These videos are great. I thought of a similar design, which wouldn't work of course, but I wasn't sure exactly why. Thanks for explaining and debunking these.
what if u used the same idea but put a horizontal axis on a vertical wheel with multiple magnets facing the same way, place the wheel over the fan, and set it spinning, just an educated guess as to what would overcome the "cogging" effect... both the fan and the wheel could potentially spin indefinately... OR use monopole magnets on the fan blades so the opposite magnetic fields are not affected, i dont have the cash right now for the experiment but i will definately try it out... also is it possible even for this fan to produce electricity instead of acting as a load... you might try setting it spinning with a dremel tool with a load attatched to the wires from the fan, i really appreciate what you are doing here :)
Since all magnets would be moving, the odds of getting the fan to spin would be much higher, but you will likely experience problems maintaining a smooth spinning fan.
Set it up so the fan also turns a little crank attached to a rod with lobes on it like a cam shaft. This will avoid cogging and will simulate turning a magnet on and off
i dont know much about magnetic fields but could you try having the magnets on the fan facing south. then, have another fan facing magnetic north and place them next to each other, that way the magnets keep landing within the same levels? just play around with the fields lol
Thank you for showing that this is bogus. My son saw one of the fake videos and has tried and tried to make it work for his science fair project. It wouldn't work, he got the same results as you. I was able to show him your video and let him know it was not his fault. Unfortunately he spent a week and a half of his time trying to get it to work before I stepped in, and now he is disappointed with what he has to turn in at school. It is truly sad what people will do to get a few views online.
Seriously, every single one of you who thinks this guy is wrong, have you EVER been to school and how the fuck did you pass physics? Dude, I really think you're dealing with some kids here who lack basic knowledge on how the world works.
In a few days I will be uploading a very good video showing how the hoax was and could have been pulled off. All the thumbs down people will look stupid. Many videos on UA-cam showing "Free Energy" devices are nothing more than illusions and trickery. Thanks For Watching!
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Absolutely not. That is not the purpose of this video. The purpose of this video was to demonstrate that the device WILL NOT work exactly as shown in the other video. It is not my job to "TRY" and get this to work. If you believe in these types of videos, then it is your job to spend money, and time trying to make this work. I have much more important things to do with my time and money. Thanks For Watching.
Well, you said you'd like to see it work, I just thought it might be a way it might could work. I won't have any spending money probably until Jan, so I thought I'd ask your thoughts.
Of course I would love to see a device that has the ability to create "Free Energy" work, but in reality it won't happen. You don't create electricity from nothing.
yea, no one is meant to be able to 'create' free energy are they? i thought it was meant to be converting, one form to another, heat into electricity, friction into etc... the idea being you dont create it, you just manipulate your space around you to modify the flow of energy all around you... the specifics being the specifics of the method, electric engine, wind turbine, atom splitting etc... I am going to go somewhere tomorrow where i might be able to dig up what i need to try this out and get the experience i mentioned earlier, after reading a few of your comments thats become obvious, i cant open my mouth anymore with out trying myself so thanks for the thought provoking material and the crash course in my favorite subject... "Things i Don't Know!"
you need MONO pole magnets on the fan, or you need a cct to swap feilds at the right time, or something that "spins a interference feild at the right time... thats the tricky part. try this and see what i mean, .. spin your interference magnet with your hand but on an axis near or in the "sweet spot" you have to find it, but not hard.. you will get a few actual spins to prove concept..... but not a working motor .. yet.
What about putting the magnets on different poles, one South and the following north all the way around the fan on the fins, won't that stop the clogging??
A small question. With the same fan and magnets, If you do turn one fan with an electrical current. How many (fan stacked with the same magnets) does it take to have the same voltage and amperage for a greater output than input?
Pierre Mignault Hello Pierre. I do not understand your question. You want to supply DC power to a case fan with magnets on its blades like shown in this video, then do what next?
Sorry, I'm French ...;) Yes. Powered only one case fan with magnets glued on the palm and ( "X" number of fan and same magnets) thats acts like a generator. "The Multiplicity Principle" How a single motor can drive several generator. Use magnets as drives and as axis
Pierre Mignault The question is. How many case fan acting as a generator (collecting energy) will equal the energy of the supply DC power to a single case fan ??? If a motion is past with no friction (using magnets) = 0 resistance or close to 0. A case fun running on "X" volts, "X" ampere and runs at "X" RPM. If the generator case fan runs at the same RPM and will give the same voltage, but the resistance to create energy (drag and friction) will reduce the amperage of how much?Why these case fan have 3, 5, 7 or 9 blades/palm? Odd number or impossible to balance.Thank youPierre
Hi Sam. I would expect the cogging to be worse when the magnets are spaced further apart. Thanks For Watching, and be sure to check out my other videos/exposed scams, and share.
*****wenn ich jetzt ein paar radial magnetisierte magnete nehme funktioniert das dann genauso wie wenn ich einen langen runden radial magneten nehme? (hurricane balls meine ich bzw searl)
regarding cogging and obviously and expectedly cogging to cause a resistance to spinning that seems impossible to be real. if there is any chance for it to spin, have you tried gluing the odd numbered individual fan with opposing/alternating polarity?
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i do not have any magnets to try my own experiments yet. have you tried using magnets on every other fan blade or every 3rd fan blade, etc? it might prevent cogging? staggering the opposing magnets to prevent cogging?
john sims cogging can be a problem in a device like this but there are ways to solve cogging problems it's not an automatic death knell so if this is fake is John Christies magnetic motor also fake? google it
this is in no way close to a magnetic motor. This fan has a battery in it with a switch that is connected when magnetized. Use your brain not your eyes.
Hey can i ask u a question. The speed of the fan influence the size of the fan. like faster speed means smaller fan?. Cos i want to play around with different axial fan . How to do calculate the cfm of ur fan?
I can Conclude that it is fake. I cannot help but notice, how the fan is kind of jiggling when it spins. Its not spinning very fluently/balance. What I can say though is that the fan is indeed genuinely spinning using the magnets stuck to the fan blade reacting to the magnet he is holding. But why does the fan jiggle? I believe that he dismantled the fan and took out what was inside of the middle of it (the PCB, wiring, etc. This then will allow the fan to spin easily using the magnets because of less friction.) And then : With the amount of space he created after cleaning out what was inside the middle of the fan (that large circular in the middle of the fan that usually houses the electronics that causes the fan to spin if connected to power). The amount of space is then FILLED with "circular Batteries", enough batteries to power the LED Bulb he is using. The Circular Batteries are basically housed inside the middle of the fan and those batteries are connected to the red and black wires. So that when he connects the bulb to the wires it lights up. Basically even if he doesnt do that magnet spinning fan Gimmick, by Simply connecting the black and red wires to the bulb it will still light up even without having to spin the fans. Because the red and black wire is actually hook up to the circular battery housed inside the middle of the fan. In the video 1> He saids if he stops spinning the fan using magnets, the bulb don't light up... Why? Thats because he also pulls out the Black Wire as soon as he stops spinning the Fan using the Magnet. ^But actually even if he doesn't make the fan spin using the magnet, the bulb will stay light up because it is actually powered by circular batteries found in the middle of the fan. Those batteries are then connected to the red and black wire he is using which are originally connected to the original fan electronics. 2> He tested the Bulb and it lit up using a Double AA battery. Okay thats legit. But He didn't test the fan if it works if he plugs it on a PC Power supply. ^Thats because he gutted out the middle electronics of the fan and replaced the electronics with circular batteries. so even if he connected the fan into a Power Supply Molex power connector, it Won't spin.
electronicsNmore ah ye my bad, wanted to make sure we were on the same page and that you are referring to that particular video. But I am pretty sure thats how he did it. Its just the fact that he tested the bulb works with a power source i.e. the battery but he didn't test if the fans work if connected to a Power supply. then when he showed how the bulb starts when he spins the fans and it stops when he doesn't let the fan spins. it wasn't about the fan spinning that makes the bulb light up at all. But it was because of him pulling out the black wire supplying the power. I am pretty sure even if he keeps the fan not spinning, the bulb will still light up just by connecting the black and red wire to the bulb. I have seen quite alot of 120mm PC case fan "free energy" videos, and I can see most of them utilizes the same gimmick using low power LED bulb and circular batteries placed in the middle of the fan/hub.
u know the Searl crew are if i understand are programing there magnets mono,etc.they could poss be able before too long be making this work. whats ur opion on Searl effect magnets?
What if you use dipole magnets glued on the fan and again two monoploar magnets (on a non symmetric position towards the centre point, to go pass the cogging point) to make it spin?
Clearly you have not read all my other comments here. The video is a FAKE. If you would like, waste your time, and your money, then post a video. Thanks For Watching
Don't waste my time with your multiple posts nonsense. I try very hard not to block trolls, so you are getting VERY close. If you believe in this SCAM, post your video with ALL information so others can duplicate it. Enough of the posts.
How do these type of fans normally work (brushless)? Like...what is on the little circuit board that is inside of it? I have seen that there is a circuit board inside from some of the videos that I've seen.
+John Kerley it is a coil inside a cylindrically shaped magnet so why you let current through the wire it creates a magnetic field around it which will cause an opposing forced to the permanent magnet surrounding it so it will push it hence spin the fan. if you reverse the set up meaning if you spin a magnet sound a coil it will generate an electric field which cause voltage that can drive current. in general a moving current creates a magnetic field and a changing magnetic filed creates electric field" this is called Faradays Law in physics. hope it help
+zesowl I know about what you are saying, but, it's the brushless part of it that I was specifically talking about. I think that maybe the fan does use a reed switch and some sort of transistor circuit to turn off and on and switch polarity of the DC current to cause a spinning motion,...because spinning motion can only be obtained with unipolarity DC current in a Homopolar type motor, wich draws too much current to be efficient for practical use.
The problem doesn't have a damned thing to do with what size magnets go on the blades or the pushing magnet, blah blah blah, as long as you can get a big external magnet to push the blade magnets then that part is fine. THE PROBLEM is the fan that is being used! Almost all modern cheap fan motors like that aren't capable of making electricity. You have to find an older model fan THAT HAS MAGNETS INSIDE of the case that is part of the original design. There is NOTHING fancy or magical here, the principal is the same as a wind generator. Go look at how a wind generator is made and you will see both wire coils and magnets, the wind turns the blades passing the magnets and coils over each other to make electricity. The ONLY thing different here, as long as you have a fan with magnets and there isn't any blocking diodes or crap like that inside that needs removed, is that you are using the glued on magnets and a big external magnet to REPLACE THE WIND to spin the fan. If you can't hold the little fan up to a big fan and have the little one making electricity (checked with a volt meter) then putting magnets on the blades isn't going to do a damned thing!! Soooo... You need a fan with internal magnets and it can't have circuitry that is blocking current flow from your test meter. Pretty damned simple.
What does your comment have to do with the video being a scam? Which it is? Your correct that some case fans can produce a voltage when placed in the the wind to allow the blades to spin, but many others do not as a result of the internal circuitry. The purpose of this video was to show that you will not have a free spinning case fan using only magnets. If you doubt this, then I suggest you purchase a case fan and magnets. I assure you that you will be HIGHLY disappointed with the results. Thanks For Watching.
You put the poles wrong. It should be n-n-s-n-s-n-s. start rotating at the double n magnet. Use low energy magnets on the blades. Then it works. Please make a new video to inform the people.
Not all case fans will produce power when placed in the wind or when rotated by hand due to internal circuitry. You can get the fan blades to sping using the magnet, but the magnet will have to be moving around to do so. Placing a single stationary magnet close to the fan will not work. Thanks For Watching! Be sure to share with others, and rate Thumbs Up.
Even if this does work (not saying it doesn't) it is not perpetual motion for 2 reasons 1. magnets do lose their magnetic ability 2. It is technically not perpetual motion because perpetual motion is motion not affected by force of any kind Perpetual motion is impossible no matter how you look at it if you find soothing that is perpetual than pls let me know because it is not possible. they say I you throw a ball in space it goes for ever so if you spin something in space it would go forever. FALSE because it would eventually stop because of dark matter even dark matter has friction it may take a million or so years but it will eventually stop true perpetual motion means an action that is repetitive over and over again for ever as long as no outside force acts upon it the closest thing to perpetual motion we have is an electrical circuit so think about it even the universe will lose its energy may be way past any persons lifetime that will ever read this comment but it will end it is not something I hate to think about but it will happen.
You need to add a soda straw to your setup. Blow through the straw, aimed at the fan, as you bring the magnet close. It will spin! :) (BTW: It spins best if the outer magnet isn't a magnet at all...)
THANK YOU! The cogging explains so much. But one hypothetical question... what if you reduced the amount of cogging as much as possible with multiple fans all connected to a single shaft? Say 5 fans all offset from each other by 20° to reduce the size of the cogging space to as little as possible. Then using 5 reversed magnets for each fan so there is not enough space for the cogging to have a major effect. So to sum up my question... Would reducing the cogging as much as possible make the fans spin?
It's because your disc magnets are axially magnetized. Try disc magnets that are magnetized diametrically through thickness. Thanks for sharing this, and your diagrams on how your poles are placed. That was a huge help!
Yes you are right, I got the terms switched huh? Good catch, but the diagram I believe is the incorrect magnet type? Not saying it'll work when switched but I'm gonna try it. Got them in the mail already.
if i tried with much smaller magnets in terms of thickness on the fan blades or instead of magnets on the blades i used a metal that magnets are attracted to would it work properly and generate voltage?
Quick question: What if you took a magnet that has a stronger polarity on one side and not as much on the other, and used it instead of the small neodymium magnets on the fan blade? I mean the magnets that have a stronger magnetic field by they have a tighter magnetic field. If it works like I think it does, it might fix cogging.
thank you for saving me $thousands of dollars. I have always thought about this and wanted to build a prototype on a larger scale. I have a drawing I would like to send you to see what you think. .....thanks again .
Jeremy Cook Try it out, if you get it to work upload a video with all the details to duplicate it. Remember, the purpose of this video was to show that this will not work as the uploader showed. Adding more magnets (which I tried) is not what the other individual did in his video. He used 8 magnets in total.
I am trying the exact same thing. I to am having problems with it spinning. The video that shows it spinning looked like he used refrigerator magnets not sure what kind he had in his hand. You make a good point.
I noticed that you do not have anything connected to the leads. There is another magnet in the motor an of the fan as well as the field windings (potential electromagnets). I wonder if there is anything in putting a load against this that might overcome the cogging
Clearly I would not have anything connected to the leads because the idea of one stationary magnet causing a case fan to spin smoothly(or at all) will never work to begin with. If it did, then I would have connected a load to show power output. It amazes me how many people believe in these scam videos. You can bet if this did work, the Chinese would have already duplucated it like they do with everything else to make a profit. The video was PURE bullshit.
I don't say that things will work, but what he doing on this video it will never work, because he didn't put north to north. And what he try to do by this video? To kill some interest of people? Ball sh...
good day, i saw the video many times, and tried to do the same for the last two days, nothing works, i tried many ways, and believe that the way that can work is with moving magnets in circular way at same speed than the fan to pool by one pole and to push by the other each time that two magnets on two palms of the fan but at opposite pole. but i have problems to find good mechanism that can turn at same speed of the fan,... if any idea, they are welcome around antwerp in belgium. thx.
Hi, If you want the object to work, the magnets needs to be recessed into a none Ferris metal like Aluminum or any plastic or Teflon so that the sides of the magnets are not showing and just the south pole of the magnet is only. By doing this you are insulating the hole magnets and you are having just the south pole of the magnet showing only. Then your magnet motor will then work.
Disrupting the magnetic field would... disrupt the magnetic field. Shrouding the magnet would prevent it from working IF you could effectively shroud it. That said, NON-FERROUS metal doesn't dampen magnets so much as not interact with the field on an appreciable level.
How about if you were to use a brass or copper tube and have the neodymium magnet glued inside of the Brass or copper, would that act as the proper shielding to prevent the Togging effect?
Nothing conductive should be able to prevent a magnetic field unless it also has a magnetic field, if I remember correctly. I don't remember how Faraday cages work, or if copper alone emulates its effect.
Hi, and thanks for your very interesting and insightfull videos. I have a question regarding this set up. As you say the original video petraning to this one is fake but what would happen if you had a magnet on every other fan blade? Would this counter act the cogging or would it make it worse?
but did you use 1mm magnets and as statormagnet a 4pieces of 3 mm 20/20mm magnets? i have no such device to test but are working with 35mm-diameter and 200mm high strong magnets for a real motor
I'm surprised that a smart man such as yourself would even have to try this to know it cannot work, lets say this is to show other people that it will not work to save them the frustration of failure. It looks like it should work but really can't, ever work. Keep up the good work on your other videos.
Lets just say that I more or less figured it would not work. but I wanted to put the video out there to inform others and save them the time/trouble of trying it out themselves.
Kevin Anderson Single pole magnets, would they exist, could also not deliver energy. You can imitate a single pole magnet e.g. by using a very long bar magnet. This way the action of only one pole is significant. The magnetic force of such hypothetic single pole magnets still works equally clockwise and in other positions anti-clockwise, sum is always zero. Well known to physicists since more than 100 years!
the outer magnets would need to spin to continuously attract the magnets attached to the fan blades, but they would only spin until friction slows them to stopping, it's a very tricky near impossible task to make the motor work without applying power to the system, which would make it pointless. but it is still worth exploring different options.
Does it not work because one side of the magnet is repelling and the other is attracting and since both of them are acting at the same time it does not move?
what if 1) you put the magnets on alternate blades , would that help in minimizing the cogging... 2) use the magnet of same strength as the one you have used on the alternate fan blades Looking forward to your response Appreciate your experiments , Thanks
Hi there. I tried using alternating poles on the fan blades. That will not work. I have also tried other configurations as well. This will never spin as shown in the video using one stationary magnet. Even using a few magnets will not produce a smooth spinning case fan. Try for yourself. You will see. :-) Thanks For Wacthing!
Finally a video who shows this device in a objective way, I really needed this video for my students because they insist endlessly that this device can work, that the physics laws are wrong, that we are brainwashed etc. I have tried several Free energy scams before for my students, none works ofc. I was so tired to find so many fakes all over the internet, Thank you for posting this video, you saved me time and money.
Hi, just watched the video and had an idea that what if you fixed 1 neodymium magnet each on 4 corners each proceeding one side of the fan housing so that the magnets that are on the blades have a constant magnetic push behind them and aren't just relying on 1 magnet to push the whole lot. In my head that would work, but I don't fully understand cogging.
Thanks For Watching, but I have much more important things to do. If you decide to try it, and it works(good luck), I will be glad to post a link to your video. Some DC motors when rotated by hand, you can feel the shaft "locking in" at certain locations of the 360 degrees. That is cogging.
could it be that you have to alternate the magnetic fields on the fan because the video doesn't say the magnetic positioning. I've seen other videos that seem to work with magnets. I noticed that while one magnet is repelling the other is ready to attract in your demo.
:-) Glad you enjoyed my video. Be sure to check out my video playlists, rate thumbs up, and share. I have another "Free Energy" scam video coming out soon. Thank You!
I noticed that in the faker's video the claimant always keeps the stationary magnet part way out of the view of the camera. The magnet also appears to have a small hole drilled in it. There is probably an air pump located outside the camera's view and a hose going to the unseen side of the stationary magnet (which may not be a magnet at all). This blows a jet of air toward the fan causing it to spin. The motor inside the fan then acts like a generator to light the bulb. The outside power source is whatever is running the air pump.
I wish more viewers were smart enough to try this themselves before posting comments on my video how I did certain things incorrectly, or rating it a thumbs down. Thanks For Watching!
electronicsNmore I find this concept very interesting. Noticing with these fans that there is magnetic resistance within the motor itself while static, attributing more resistance to the cogging effect. I was able to get a disc that was levitating on a 52gauss neodymium field held with a brass tube in the center to spin with this fan concept since there was no interference from the fan motor... Though, of course there is no way to then generate or harness the energy and utilize it. but still interesting to watch static objects create motion.
well what if you change the number of magnets? what if you change the arrangement of the magnets? is there any way to make the basic concept work at all to generate even just enough electricity to keep a light bulb going?
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Thank you for such a interesting and mature video in all aspects! It was truly pleasent to watch and I liked how you very profesionally explained the details and had so many things subbed into those red boxes. =) It felt like watching a very professional document of a sort, and I like that. :) Also I saw a (not sure if the) scam video of this fan first and I was genuinely surprized how easily I believed what I saw there and I'm 28 years old (not trying to be better being older than say a 15 years old but to state that as a young adult I ought to question more what I've been told). So thanks to you and your explicitly detailed and honest video I feel I've been reminded of not being a member of the massive cattle of non-thinking-for-themselves people. :) And for my part to prevent anyone from accusing me for being sarcastic or something with all my honest/genuine/valid praises regarding this video: I am 100% serious on every word I've just written here. P.S. I subscribed way before and would've even if there wouldn't have been any suggestion/hint for to do so. :)
It is probably possible I mean to spin the fan blades with the help of magnet no matter if it produces any current. The motor itself has a magnet within. N probably that is interfering the fan from rotating . Try removing it ( I know if we remove the motor magnet we won't get any current but try n c if the fan rotates by this method) and see if the fan spins if that didn't work try sticking the magnets in every alternate blades and see if that works. This fan can definitely produce a small amount of voltage when spun. Please try these methods and let us know if it works.
You are correct, there is a magnet located in the center of the plastic fan, but you also have to realize that the individual who uploaded the video, never said he removed any internal magnets. He stated that all he did was glue magnets onto the blades, and push the fan into smooth operation using one other magnet. Unfortunately, it will not happen that way. Experiment yourself, and you will see. A scam. :-)
I just tested the fan in the video. Applying 24V the fan spins perfectly at a set rpm. If you spin the fan equally as fast, you DO NOT get any real measurable change in voltage. Maybe .05 volts DC. That is due to the way the case fan was designed(The internal circuitry). I have another case fan which will produce voltage when you spin it fast.
if a person would make a make and break effect to null the field at the exact point, would the momentiem carry the flywheel to the next attraction or repulsion action?
Try alternating the poles of the magnets that are on the blade. For example, make a pattern: north, south, north, south. The magnet will attract to one of the magnets of the same poles but will also be repelled at the same time.
Check out PART 2 of this video which uses very thin neodymium disc magnets:
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electronicsNmore you gave a theory of how you think in fan actually worksput the device you suspected is inside the original inside yours and see if it worksotherwise your theory remains a theory
Same flickering output. Stop believing all the scams!
electronicsNmore
you aren't willing to insert the device you mentioned in the fan?
you haven't proven this is a scam then
you only presented a theory about how it works
STOP wasting my time.
electronicsNmore I have experimented with neo magnets and felt there is potential to create very useful mechanisms. For instance contact free transfer. I have a video posted way back where I constructed a basic contact free energy transfer demonstration. Based off the design of A/C generators and motors I would like to further research ideas for the potential to create a system that could create free energy from strong magnets. I feel there is likely a way to do this. Currently we use magnets to create electricity from an external power source. If further research is done I believe we can utilize magnet fields to do this with no drive source.
This is really a very simple situation. NOTHING like this can EVER work no matter how you arrange things. This is just a fact. Lots of people try this sort of thing but it never works, it can't. Any video showing something like this working is a fake. UA-cam needs more people like yourself who tell the truth. You're doing a good job. Well done and thank you.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'm nearing the completion of my Electrical Engineering degree, and it's frustrating to me when I come across people who think I'm part of the anti-free energy conspiracy.
Thanks for putting out these videos, it's nice to see someone who has the patience to respectfully approach the situation and put together these devices to show how they (don't) work.
Thanks For Watching. I'm very open minded to ideas/new things, but some things just don't work. Lets be realistic, if this really worked, the person would be patenting the idea, and making millions. People are way too trusting of many UA-cam videos. If this does work, then I expect someone to come forward with all the design specifics so it can easily be duplicated by others. Good luck with that.
electronicsNmore well said
many people misuse / misunderstand the word "free" in free energy
free energy doesn't mean energy you don't pay for
rzan8 And what does it mean exactly ?
Emmanuel Delahaye
energy can not be destroyed or created only converted
this is the law of the conservation of energy
so the "free" would mean creation of erergy without an input source
The one thing you didn't do was rig up a switch to turn the fan on when you put the magnet close. I'm sure that's how it was done.
@Rahat Ibn Nabi
Based on the testing I have done, which is more extensive than what is shown in this video, I can say you WILL NOT get a single magnet to push a case fan into smooth spinning operation. Not going to happen. If you doubt it, then try it! Very simple to prove to yourself.
Clearly it is very easy to fake videos if you are good at video editing. Don't be so trusting.
Pablo Garcia
Don't waste my time. Either PROVE this works by making a video and testing it out for yourself, or stop carrying on. I'm seriously considering creating a new channel just for making free energy scam videos since so many people believe in them.
Pablo Garcia
More like how gullible. Find me one computer case fan that you can buy online that spins freely using one magnet as shown in this video, or multiple magnets(NO WIND), and produces endless power. LOL. Please do so and post the link here for all the viewers to see. Clearly people would be duplicating this device like crazy and making lots of money selling them online. Show us. I would like to buy one. The Chinese would have already duplicated and mass produced this device for sale.
Pablo Garcia Also, you can see many different people who can saw a woman in half and put her back together. You can clearly see that she is in two pieces, so it must be real. I tried it and killed the woman next door. Maybe I should try it with a sharper saw.
Pablo Garcia Bloggers have credibility?? That's a new one. Pablo, yes, magnets repel when their like poles face one another. But they repel in BOTH directions. The next magnet on the circle can't get into proper position because it gets pushed backwards. The fan is being forced to turn in two directions at the same time. The net result is it doesn't move at all.
Perhaps you should do what thousands before you have done. Try it yourself.
Thank you so much for this video. I was having trouble convincing my kids the video was fake. Good job!
The video is true. You are just scams in the comment section trying to convince people it's fake so they pay your companies....
@@anassdakki5790
So, you can make this work?
I tried this and it won't work.
Could you show me what I'm doing wrong?
@@anassdakki5790 Shut up, and take your schizophrenia medication.
6 Não funciona,tem truques
- belo truques,pois não funciona!
Notice how NONE of the people who gave a thumbs down, offered to show any proof that this works. Typical trolls.
*****
The cogging effect is very hard to overcome. Is it possible? Anything is possible, but highly unlikely as the uploader showed. Remember, the individual stated that all he did was glue magnets to each fan blade then use another magnet to push it into smooth operation. Based on that, it is not going to happen.
Unfortunately, I do not believe this type of free energy device will ever work; not even with monopoles. The problem is that for every south pole this is an opposite and equal north pole, or the south pole has to be brought closer to the stationary magnet before it can repel away. Cogging should not be a big deal with enough rotational inertia. If you draw out the field lines for all the magnets, you will see a few that will counteract the desired force. Every design I have found thus far has that problem.
See my videos Magneti Motor BS and Magnetic Motor BS2 for a simple explanation why this is not possible. Good Video BTW.
Power Max
Where can I obtain bagnets, and just how do they work?
Power Max Monopoles are theoretical. They do not exist in our reality.
I'm curious, what if you had equal amounts of magnets, opposite poles - say two fans placed on top?
Or maybe you need one solid magnet north, and a larger one, south to prevent the cogging? To have no spaces between the magnets...
Hello, Please watch Part 2, all questions will come to an end. Thanks
dose a fan like that even make any power when you spin it i know its a motor but these fans have control circuitry that could stop any power form going back out of the fan
Many of those case fans do not produce any power when you spin them, but I have come across a few that did produce power when you spin them.
Thanks For Watching!
These videos are great. I thought of a similar design, which wouldn't work of course, but I wasn't sure exactly why. Thanks for explaining and debunking these.
Thanks. U
can we connect an motor to it ,,and supply the generated voltage to the same motor is that possible??
Please watch Part 2. :-)
what if u used the same idea but put a horizontal axis on a vertical wheel with multiple magnets facing the same way, place the wheel over the fan, and set it spinning, just an educated guess as to what would overcome the "cogging" effect... both the fan and the wheel could potentially spin indefinately... OR use monopole magnets on the fan blades so the opposite magnetic fields are not affected, i dont have the cash right now for the experiment but i will definately try it out... also is it possible even for this fan to produce electricity instead of acting as a load... you might try setting it spinning with a dremel tool with a load attatched to the wires from the fan, i really appreciate what you are doing here :)
I think this is a great idea and tommy is right and he is a very smart man I respect him greatly
Since all magnets would be moving, the odds of getting the fan to spin would be much higher, but you will likely experience problems maintaining a smooth spinning fan.
Set it up so the fan also turns a little crank attached to a rod with lobes on it like a cam shaft. This will avoid cogging and will simulate turning a magnet on and off
Thank you !
I am tired of these so-called free energy devices.
i hate scams. You will never find one on this channel.
I hate the phrase free energy. That phrase has closed people's minds to experimentation. Scams like this also make me angry.
i dont know much about magnetic fields but could you try having the magnets on the fan facing south. then, have another fan facing magnetic north and place them next to each other, that way the magnets keep landing within the same levels? just play around with the fields lol
Thank you for showing that this is bogus. My son saw one of the fake videos and has tried and tried to make it work for his science fair project. It wouldn't work, he got the same results as you. I was able to show him your video and let him know it was not his fault. Unfortunately he spent a week and a half of his time trying to get it to work before I stepped in, and now he is disappointed with what he has to turn in at school. It is truly sad what people will do to get a few views online.
same, I'm doing this for my science fair and I have no other way but to hand in this stupid design
ur son has learned much of his future lifes..
Hi, where can I get theese magnets o how are named its? thanks
Seriously, every single one of you who thinks this guy is wrong, have you EVER been to school and how the fuck did you pass physics? Dude, I really think you're dealing with some kids here who lack basic knowledge on how the world works.
In a few days I will be uploading a very good video showing how the hoax was and could have been pulled off. All the thumbs down people will look stupid. Many videos on UA-cam showing "Free Energy" devices are nothing more than illusions and trickery.
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glad someone took it on to educate the people on the internet, you should throw in some physics rules in it too
Едуард Георгиев the capitalist government paid @electronicsNmore to fool people
and forget free energy of tesla.. lol
Sure they are. LOL. You make yourself look very dumb by posting comments like that.
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Great explanation. It SEEMS like there should be a way to do this with magnets, which is why people are drawn to this sort of thing.
something like this should be on mythbuster on Discovery channel as well.
that should be lots of fun.
+Min-Bau Liao great ideai'll send it in
mythbuster is financed by big corporations. They will never let the little people not pay for energy.
Have you considered trying to put a magnetic strip around the fan? A strip should prevent cogging, right?
Absolutely not. That is not the purpose of this video. The purpose of this video was to demonstrate that the device WILL NOT work exactly as shown in the other video. It is not my job to "TRY" and get this to work. If you believe in these types of videos, then it is your job to spend money, and time trying to make this work. I have much more important things to do with my time and money.
Thanks For Watching.
Well, you said you'd like to see it work, I just thought it might be a way it might could work. I won't have any spending money probably until Jan, so I thought I'd ask your thoughts.
Of course I would love to see a device that has the ability to create "Free Energy" work, but in reality it won't happen. You don't create electricity from nothing.
I recant my doubt of it being by Tesla, it was patented in 1913. >_
yea, no one is meant to be able to 'create' free energy are they? i thought it was meant to be converting, one form to another, heat into electricity, friction into etc... the idea being you dont create it, you just manipulate your space around you to modify the flow of energy all around you... the specifics being the specifics of the method, electric engine, wind turbine, atom splitting etc...
I am going to go somewhere tomorrow where i might be able to dig up what i need to try this out and get the experience i mentioned earlier, after reading a few of your comments thats become obvious, i cant open my mouth anymore with out trying myself so thanks for the thought provoking material and the crash course in my favorite subject... "Things i Don't Know!"
you need MONO pole magnets on the fan, or you need a cct to swap feilds at the right time, or something that "spins a interference feild at the right time... thats the tricky part.
try this and see what i mean, .. spin your interference magnet with your hand but on an axis near or in the "sweet spot" you have to find it, but not hard.. you will get a few actual spins to prove concept..... but not a working motor .. yet.
What about putting the magnets on different poles, one South and the following north all the way around the fan on the fins, won't that stop the clogging??
Tried it all. :-). I did a lot more testing outside of this video.
Thanks For Watching!
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1) You can't win
2) You can't even break even
3) You can't escape laws 1 and 2
Harry Andruschak the laws of thermodynamics are laws created by Humans who have no understanding of the universe and try to make meaning of chaos.
@@MrPepsicola123 you said it...
A small question.
With the same fan and magnets, If you do turn one fan with an electrical current.
How many (fan stacked with the same magnets) does it take to have the same voltage and amperage for a greater output than input?
Pierre Mignault Hello Pierre. I do not understand your question. You want to supply DC power to a case fan with magnets on its blades like shown in this video, then do what next?
Sorry, I'm French ...;)
Yes. Powered only one case fan with magnets glued on the palm and ( "X" number of fan and same magnets) thats acts like a generator.
"The Multiplicity Principle"
How a single motor can drive several generator. Use magnets as drives and as axis
Pierre Mignault The question is. How many case fan acting as a generator (collecting energy) will equal the energy of the supply DC power to a single case fan ???
If a motion is past with no friction (using magnets) = 0 resistance or close to 0. A case fun running on "X" volts, "X" ampere and runs at "X" RPM.
If the generator case fan runs at the same RPM and will give the same voltage, but the resistance to create energy (drag and friction) will reduce the amperage of how much?Why these case fan have 3, 5, 7 or 9 blades/palm? Odd number or impossible to balance.Thank youPierre
put coils of wire next to the sides and let the wind turn the fan.
what if the the blades are further apart would that weaken the cogging effect?
Hi Sam. I would expect the cogging to be worse when the magnets are spaced further apart.
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Unfortunately some people have no clue how much damage they do with fake clips about free-energy.
EXACTLY. Those morons make people think that every other device is also fake.
*****wenn ich jetzt ein paar radial magnetisierte magnete nehme funktioniert das dann genauso wie wenn ich einen langen runden radial magneten nehme? (hurricane balls meine ich bzw searl)
I guess you did not watch the full video. This person made people waste their time AND money trying to replicate this scam. That is the damage.
They know. They don't care. Because the page views make THEM money.
FuckYouGooglePlus Money will be worthless soon. They'll realize this mistake when it's too late.
What size are the magnets on the fan blades?
12mm x 3mm. If you watched my newer video on this subject, You will see 12mm x .85mm N48 Neodymiums.
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Kudos to you for being skeptical!
regarding cogging and obviously and expectedly cogging to cause a resistance to spinning that seems impossible to be real. if there is any chance for it to spin, have you tried gluing the odd numbered individual fan with opposing/alternating polarity?
+dcracing1
Hello. Many other ways were tested. 100% scam. Please watch Part 2.
Thank you!
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i do not have any magnets to try my own experiments yet. have you tried using magnets on every other fan blade or every 3rd fan blade, etc? it might prevent cogging? staggering the opposing magnets to prevent cogging?
If you have a stationery magnet that created free energy you wouldn't need UA-cam likes. You'd create perpetual energy and be a multi-millionaire.
+john sims it doesn't create energyit converts magnetic power to kinetic energy
You are bad at physics. Research "cogging" and understand why this is a scam.
john sims
cogging can be a problem in a device like this but there are ways to solve cogging problems
it's not an automatic death knell
so if this is fake is John Christies magnetic motor also fake?
google it
this is in no way close to a magnetic motor. This fan has a battery in it with a switch that is connected when magnetized. Use your brain not your eyes.
john sims
so you are saying some of the magnetic motors do work?
Hey can i ask u a question. The speed of the fan influence the size of the fan. like faster speed means smaller fan?. Cos i want to play around with different axial fan .
How to do calculate the cfm of ur fan?
I can Conclude that it is fake.
I cannot help but notice, how the fan is kind of jiggling when it spins. Its not spinning very fluently/balance.
What I can say though is that the fan is indeed genuinely spinning using the magnets stuck to the fan blade reacting to the magnet he is holding.
But why does the fan jiggle? I believe that he dismantled the fan and took out what was inside of the middle of it (the PCB, wiring, etc. This then will allow the fan to spin easily using the magnets because of less friction.)
And then :
With the amount of space he created after cleaning out what was inside the middle of the fan (that large circular in the middle of the fan that usually houses the electronics that causes the fan to spin if connected to power).
The amount of space is then FILLED with "circular Batteries", enough batteries to power the LED Bulb he is using. The Circular Batteries are basically housed inside the middle of the fan and those batteries are connected to the red and black wires. So that when he connects the bulb to the wires it lights up.
Basically even if he doesnt do that magnet spinning fan Gimmick, by Simply connecting the black and red wires to the bulb it will still light up even without having to spin the fans. Because the red and black wire is actually hook up to the circular battery housed inside the middle of the fan.
In the video
1> He saids if he stops spinning the fan using magnets, the bulb don't light up... Why? Thats because he also pulls out the Black Wire as soon as he stops spinning the Fan using the Magnet.
^But actually even if he doesn't make the fan spin using the magnet, the bulb will stay light up because it is actually powered by circular batteries found in the middle of the fan. Those batteries are then connected to the red and black wire he is using which are originally connected to the original fan electronics.
2> He tested the Bulb and it lit up using a Double AA battery. Okay thats legit. But He didn't test the fan if it works if he plugs it on a PC Power supply.
^Thats because he gutted out the middle electronics of the fan and replaced the electronics with circular batteries. so even if he connected the fan into a Power Supply Molex power connector, it Won't spin.
I agree, but why send more viewers his way to make more money from the scam video? I would remove the link from your post.
electronicsNmore ah ye my bad, wanted to make sure we were on the same page and that you are referring to that particular video.
But I am pretty sure thats how he did it.
Its just the fact that he tested the bulb works with a power source i.e. the battery but he didn't test if the fans work if connected to a Power supply.
then when he showed how the bulb starts when he spins the fans and it stops when he doesn't let the fan spins.
it wasn't about the fan spinning that makes the bulb light up at all. But it was because of him pulling out the black wire supplying the power.
I am pretty sure even if he keeps the fan not spinning, the bulb will still light up just by connecting the black and red wire to the bulb.
I have seen quite alot of 120mm PC case fan "free energy" videos, and I can see most of them utilizes the same gimmick using low power LED bulb and circular batteries placed in the middle of the fan/hub.
u know the Searl crew are if i understand are programing there magnets mono,etc.they could poss be able before too long be making this work. whats ur opion on Searl effect magnets?
You could always try alternating the magnets so that it wouldn't create that stickiness problem
He tried it, nothing worked.
What if you use dipole magnets glued on the fan and again two monoploar magnets (on a non symmetric position towards the centre point, to go pass the cogging point) to make it spin?
Watch Part 2!
maybe it would work if you added a battery
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The magnet inside the motor is affecting it and cogging?
Makes ZERO difference if there's a magnet inside the motor.
Dude have you tried getting rid of some magnets at the fan? that may reduce the cogging... maybe
Clearly you have not read all my other comments here. The video is a FAKE. If you would like, waste your time, and your money, then post a video.
Thanks For Watching
Don't waste my time with your multiple posts nonsense. I try very hard not to block trolls, so you are getting VERY close. If you believe in this SCAM, post your video with ALL information so others can duplicate it. Enough of the posts.
Oh. OK. I apologize. :-)
How do these type of fans normally work (brushless)? Like...what is on the little circuit board that is inside of it? I have seen that there is a circuit board inside from some of the videos that I've seen.
+John Kerley it is a coil inside a cylindrically shaped magnet so why you let current through the wire it creates a magnetic field around it which will cause an opposing forced to the permanent magnet surrounding it so it will push it hence spin the fan. if you reverse the set up meaning if you spin a magnet sound a coil it will generate an electric field which cause voltage that can drive current. in general a moving current creates a magnetic field and a changing magnetic filed creates electric field" this is called Faradays Law in physics. hope it help
+zesowl I know about what you are saying, but, it's the brushless part of it that I was specifically talking about. I think that maybe the fan does use a reed switch and some sort of transistor circuit to turn off and on and switch polarity of the DC current to cause a spinning motion,...because spinning motion can only be obtained with unipolarity DC current in a Homopolar type motor, wich draws too much current to be efficient for practical use.
The problem doesn't have a damned thing to do with what size magnets go on the blades or the pushing magnet, blah blah blah, as long as you can get a big external magnet to push the blade magnets then that part is fine.
THE PROBLEM is the fan that is being used! Almost all modern cheap fan motors like that aren't capable of making electricity. You have to find an older model fan THAT HAS MAGNETS INSIDE of the case that is part of the original design. There is NOTHING fancy or magical here, the principal is the same as a wind generator. Go look at how a wind generator is made and you will see both wire coils and magnets, the wind turns the blades passing the magnets and coils over each other to make electricity.
The ONLY thing different here, as long as you have a fan with magnets and there isn't any blocking diodes or crap like that inside that needs removed, is that you are using the glued on magnets and a big external magnet to REPLACE THE WIND to spin the fan.
If you can't hold the little fan up to a big fan and have the little one making electricity (checked with a volt meter) then putting magnets on the blades isn't going to do a damned thing!!
Soooo... You need a fan with internal magnets and it can't have circuitry that is blocking current flow from your test meter. Pretty damned simple.
What does your comment have to do with the video being a scam? Which it is? Your correct that some case fans can produce a voltage when placed in the the wind to allow the blades to spin, but many others do not as a result of the internal circuitry. The purpose of this video was to show that you will not have a free spinning case fan using only magnets. If you doubt this, then I suggest you purchase a case fan and magnets. I assure you that you will be HIGHLY disappointed with the results.
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What happens when you put the them on the other side of the blade behind the magnets will that work ?
No. You need to watch PART 2.
Easy! You need to use monopole magnets. ;)
When you find them, send me a couple. LOL
That was a good one !
Good aftnoon Pleasanton How can i get the small magnet
You put the poles wrong. It should be n-n-s-n-s-n-s. start rotating at the double n magnet. Use low energy magnets on the blades. Then it works. Please make a new video to inform the people.
ok so the magnet for turning the fan doest work. but if we just turn the fan manually or by wind, does it still produce power?
Not all case fans will produce power when placed in the wind or when rotated by hand due to internal circuitry. You can get the fan blades to sping using the magnet, but the magnet will have to be moving around to do so. Placing a single stationary magnet close to the fan will not work.
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can u somehow rewire the internal circuitry to change the fan into some kind of alternator?
Yes, but you are better off just using a junked automotive alternator.
Even if this does work (not saying it doesn't) it is not perpetual motion for 2 reasons
1. magnets do lose their magnetic ability
2. It is technically not perpetual motion because perpetual motion is motion not affected by force of any kind
Perpetual motion is impossible no matter how you look at it if you find soothing that is perpetual than pls let me know because it is not possible. they say I you throw a ball in space it goes for ever so if you spin something in space it would go forever. FALSE because it would eventually stop because of dark matter even dark matter has friction it may take a million or so years but it will eventually stop true perpetual motion means an action that is repetitive over and over again for ever as long as no outside force acts upon it the closest thing to perpetual motion we have is an electrical circuit so think about it even the universe will lose its energy may be way past any persons lifetime that will ever read this comment but it will end it is not something I hate to think about but it will happen.
You need to add a soda straw to your setup.
Blow through the straw, aimed at the fan, as you bring the magnet close.
It will spin! :) (BTW: It spins best if the outer magnet isn't a magnet at all...)
A classic aphorism comes to mind: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
how do we actually make something spin with magnets? what is the actual way to do so?
I have seen it and concluded that it is a fake, also!
THANK YOU! The cogging explains so much. But one hypothetical question... what if you reduced the amount of cogging as much as possible with multiple fans all connected to a single shaft? Say 5 fans all offset from each other by 20° to reduce the size of the cogging space to as little as possible. Then using 5 reversed magnets for each fan so there is not enough space for the cogging to have a major effect.
So to sum up my question... Would reducing the cogging as much as possible make the fans spin?
It's because your disc magnets are axially magnetized. Try disc magnets that are magnetized diametrically through thickness. Thanks for sharing this, and your diagrams on how your poles are placed. That was a huge help!
I know about the other magnets, but the individual used magnets that were magnetized axially.
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Yes you are right, I got the terms switched huh? Good catch, but the diagram I believe is the incorrect magnet type? Not saying it'll work when switched but I'm gonna try it. Got them in the mail already.
I subscribed because your not a liar thanks for being a good person
Thanks Mike. I only upload REAL videos. :-)
How did u get past the cogging issue? My build is seizing about every tenth spin.
Never did get past it.
if i tried with much smaller magnets in terms of thickness on the fan blades or instead of magnets on the blades i used a metal that magnets are attracted to would it work properly and generate voltage?
cmon man, wrong fan wrong angel .........im convinced you work for the power company's.....
Stop talking stupid. Watch Part 2, you may actually learn something. :-)
Quick question: What if you took a magnet that has a stronger polarity on one side and not as much on the other, and used it instead of the small neodymium magnets on the fan blade? I mean the magnets that have a stronger magnetic field by they have a tighter magnetic field. If it works like I think it does, it might fix cogging.
You need to watch PART 2! :-)
thank you for saving me $thousands of dollars. I have always thought about this and wanted to build a prototype on a larger scale. I have a drawing I would like to send you to see what you think. .....thanks again .
+Cuku Kenivel
Hey there. Unfortunately these devices will not work. BTW, you look exactly like a friend of mine from my college years.
uhhhhh.....where did you go to college ? that pic was when I was in college.
I thought the thinner magnets did work .... what am I missing ?
+Cuku Kenivel
In Florida. Check out Part 2 in the video description area. I use very thin magnets. :-)
i still want to send you this drawing ...
Florida ??? Well your friend must be one handsome SOB.... cause I am too. LOL !!!!
Thank for posting, you have saved me hours trying.
You're welcome!
Haha, I just made this video as well.
Great video btw (enough of those fake videos!)
Wait, I think this free energy method would actually work.... You just need a few more magnets ;) #Thermodynamics
Jeremy Cook
Try it out, if you get it to work upload a video with all the details to duplicate it. Remember, the purpose of this video was to show that this will not work as the uploader showed. Adding more magnets (which I tried) is not what the other individual did in his video. He used 8 magnets in total.
Jeremy Cook Save your superglue, it does not work ;)
Matt Heilman I'm sure - was kidding!
I am trying the exact same thing. I to am having problems with it spinning. The video that shows it spinning looked like he used refrigerator magnets not sure what kind he had in his hand. You make a good point.
Of course it is fake, if it works they would be sold everywhere.
if its sold everywhere , you'd be dead
I noticed that you do not have anything connected to the leads. There is another magnet in the motor an of the fan as well as the field windings (potential electromagnets). I wonder if there is anything in putting a load against this that might overcome the cogging
Clearly I would not have anything connected to the leads because the idea of one stationary magnet causing a case fan to spin smoothly(or at all) will never work to begin with. If it did, then I would have connected a load to show power output. It amazes me how many people believe in these scam videos. You can bet if this did work, the Chinese would have already duplucated it like they do with everything else to make a profit. The video was PURE bullshit.
I don't say that things will work, but what he doing on this video it will never work, because he didn't put north to north. And what he try to do by this video? To kill some interest of people?
Ball sh...
That is so true
The only positive thing those fake energy vids achieve is to get people to think. Good job on your investigative vid.
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how much voltage does it produce?
good day, i saw the video many times, and tried to do the same for the last two days, nothing works, i tried many ways, and believe that the way that can work is with moving magnets in circular way at same speed than the fan to pool by one pole and to push by the other each time that two magnets on two palms of the fan but at opposite pole. but i have problems to find good mechanism that can turn at same speed of the fan,... if any idea, they are welcome around antwerp in belgium. thx.
Hi, If you want the object to work, the magnets needs to be recessed into a none Ferris metal like Aluminum or any plastic or Teflon so that the sides of the magnets are not showing and just the south pole of the magnet is only. By doing this you are insulating the hole magnets and you are having just the south pole of the magnet showing only. Then your magnet motor will then work.
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Disrupting the magnetic field would... disrupt the magnetic field. Shrouding the magnet would prevent it from working IF you could effectively shroud it. That said, NON-FERROUS metal doesn't dampen magnets so much as not interact with the field on an appreciable level.
How about if you were to use a brass or copper tube and have the neodymium magnet glued inside of the Brass or copper, would that act as the proper shielding to prevent the Togging effect?
Nothing conductive should be able to prevent a magnetic field unless it also has a magnetic field, if I remember correctly. I don't remember how Faraday cages work, or if copper alone emulates its effect.
O key! And thank You for your input, I do appreciate it.
Hi, and thanks for your very interesting and insightfull videos.
I have a question regarding this set up.
As you say the original video petraning to this one is fake but what would happen if you had a magnet on every other fan blade?
Would this counter act the cogging or would it make it worse?
I would think that it would be worse due to wider spacing.
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but did you use 1mm magnets and as statormagnet a 4pieces of 3 mm 20/20mm magnets? i have no such device to test but are working with 35mm-diameter and 200mm high strong magnets for a real motor
Hi, Is it or is it rounded a small iron magnet
I'm surprised that a smart man such as yourself would even have to try this to know it cannot work, lets say this is to show other people that it will not work to save them the frustration of failure. It looks like it should work but really can't, ever work. Keep up the good work on your other videos.
Lets just say that I more or less figured it would not work. but I wanted to put the video out there to inform others and save them the time/trouble of trying it out themselves.
could it be that you should place the poles of the rotor magnets towards the center, and not all to the north or south?
You have tried with steel pieces on rotor wings? and to attract them with magnets? If you are make it let me know please.
+Madalin Girleanu
Save your time for other projects.
what about single pole magents to over come the cogging?
All I can say is that it would take a lot of experimenting with different shapes/strengths of magnets. I don't have the time for it. LOL
Kevin Anderson Single pole magnets, would they exist, could also not deliver energy. You can imitate a single pole magnet e.g. by using a very long bar magnet. This way the action of only one pole is significant. The magnetic force of such hypothetic single pole magnets still works equally clockwise and in other positions anti-clockwise, sum is always zero. Well known to physicists since more than 100 years!
the outer magnets would need to spin to continuously attract the magnets attached to the fan blades, but they would only spin until friction slows them to stopping, it's a very tricky near impossible task to make the motor work without applying power to the system, which would make it pointless. but it is still worth exploring different options.
Does it not work because one side of the magnet is repelling and the other is attracting and since both of them are acting at the same time it does not move?
what if
1) you put the magnets on alternate blades , would that help in minimizing the cogging...
2) use the magnet of same strength as the one you have used on the alternate fan blades
Looking forward to your response
Appreciate your experiments , Thanks
Hi there.
I tried using alternating poles on the fan blades. That will not work. I have also tried other configurations as well. This will never spin as shown in the video using one stationary magnet. Even using a few magnets will not produce a smooth spinning case fan. Try for yourself. You will see. :-)
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Thanks for the speedy reply, will follow your channel.. Appreciate your time
Your welcome.
Finally a video who shows this device in a objective way, I really needed this video for my students because they insist endlessly that this device can work, that the physics laws are wrong, that we are brainwashed etc. I have tried several Free energy scams before for my students, none works ofc.
I was so tired to find so many fakes all over the internet, Thank you for posting this video, you saved me time and money.
Hi, just watched the video and had an idea that what if you fixed 1 neodymium magnet each on 4 corners each proceeding one side of the fan housing so that the magnets that are on the blades have a constant magnetic push behind them and aren't just relying on 1 magnet to push the whole lot. In my head that would work, but I don't fully understand cogging.
Thanks For Watching, but I have much more important things to do. If you decide to try it, and it works(good luck), I will be glad to post a link to your video. Some DC motors when rotated by hand, you can feel the shaft "locking in" at certain locations of the 360 degrees. That is cogging.
could it be that you have to alternate the magnetic fields on the fan because the video doesn't say the magnetic positioning. I've seen other videos that seem to work with magnets. I noticed that while one magnet is repelling the other is ready to attract in your demo.
thanks for explanation but tell me more about self running motor is it real or fake? please guide me.
what if you use a low south magnet to repelled another south manget so it will not interfere with the other south magnet
Finally an honest youtube channel. I wonder why people post garbage and claim to have built a perpetual motion generator. It pisses me off.
:-) Glad you enjoyed my video. Be sure to check out my video playlists, rate thumbs up, and share. I have another "Free Energy" scam video coming out soon. Thank You!
I noticed that in the faker's video the claimant always keeps the stationary magnet part way out of the view of the camera. The magnet also appears to have a small hole drilled in it. There is probably an air pump located outside the camera's view and a hose going to the unseen side of the stationary magnet (which may not be a magnet at all). This blows a jet of air toward the fan causing it to spin. The motor inside the fan then acts like a generator to light the bulb. The outside power source is whatever is running the air pump.
Your right dude i been trying to do it on my own and use different types of magnets but no LUCK at all..
Very well said. Tried this myself, and debunked.
I wish more viewers were smart enough to try this themselves before posting comments on my video how I did certain things incorrectly, or rating it a thumbs down.
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I find this concept very interesting. Noticing with these fans that there is magnetic resistance within the motor itself while static, attributing more resistance to the cogging effect. I was able to get a disc that was levitating on a 52gauss neodymium field held with a brass tube in the center to spin with this fan concept since there was no interference from the fan motor... Though, of course there is no way to then generate or harness the energy and utilize it. but still interesting to watch static objects create motion.
did you try to use thinner magnets? if it is work tell me
+Kriastopher Bautista
Part 2 will answer your question. :-)
Angle of blades on fan. You want less cfm, less resistance. And position the magnets close to the tip of each blade. IT WORKED!
Ok if you use fewer magnets will that work?
+B5guy
I wish. :-). If it did, I would use it to power everything. Watch Part 2.
well what if you change the number of magnets? what if you change the arrangement of the magnets? is there any way to make the basic concept work at all to generate even just enough electricity to keep a light bulb going?
Hunter Powers Hi Hunter. please check out my latest video. You should not have any more questions after watching that video. Thank You!
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Thank you for such a interesting and mature video in all aspects! It was truly pleasent to watch and I liked how you very profesionally explained the details and had so many things subbed into those red boxes. =) It felt like watching a very professional document of a sort, and I like that. :)
Also I saw a (not sure if the) scam video of this fan first and I was genuinely surprized how easily I believed what I saw there and I'm 28 years old (not trying to be better being older than say a 15 years old but to state that as a young adult I ought to question more what I've been told).
So thanks to you and your explicitly detailed and honest video I feel I've been reminded of not being a member of the massive cattle of non-thinking-for-themselves people. :)
And for my part to prevent anyone from accusing me for being sarcastic or something with all my honest/genuine/valid praises regarding this video: I am 100% serious on every word I've just written here.
P.S. I subscribed way before and would've even if there wouldn't have been any suggestion/hint for to do so. :)
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It is probably possible I mean to spin the fan blades with the help of magnet no matter if it produces any current. The motor itself has a magnet within. N probably that is interfering the fan from rotating . Try removing it ( I know if we remove the motor magnet we won't get any current but try n c if the fan rotates by this method) and see if the fan spins if that didn't work try sticking the magnets in every alternate blades and see if that works. This fan can definitely produce a small amount of voltage when spun. Please try these methods and let us know if it works.
You are correct, there is a magnet located in the center of the plastic fan, but you also have to realize that the individual who uploaded the video, never said he removed any internal magnets. He stated that all he did was glue magnets onto the blades, and push the fan into smooth operation using one other magnet. Unfortunately, it will not happen that way. Experiment yourself, and you will see. A scam. :-)
I just tested the fan in the video. Applying 24V the fan spins perfectly at a set rpm. If you spin the fan equally as fast, you DO NOT get any real measurable change in voltage. Maybe .05 volts DC. That is due to the way the case fan was designed(The internal circuitry). I have another case fan which will produce voltage when you spin it fast.
What if you replace the magnets on the fan with bismuth , with bismuth diamagnetic properties it may stop the clogging.
if a person would make a make and break effect to null the field at the exact point, would the momentiem carry the flywheel to the next attraction or repulsion action?
The ONLY magnet motors which can be made to work are the type that use magnets to rotate the motor/fan which are not stationary.
Would a monopole magnet work?
+Down Under Tech
Monopole? If you can find a seller for a monopole magnet, please post the link here. No such magnet currently exists.
Thanks.
electronicsNmore Hah it was kick to the Big Bang Theory, but it could work if they existed.
Try alternating the poles of the magnets that are on the blade. For example, make a pattern: north, south, north, south. The magnet will attract to one of the magnets of the same poles but will also be repelled at the same time.
Victor Zarate Refer to my other video to see how it was done.
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