Can a Keyboard Sound Like a Actual Hammond Organ?? Using the Neo Ventilator on a Motif!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Motif Almost Sounds Like a Actual Hammond Organ!!!!
Showing (in high quality) how the neo ventilator sounds on a keyboard.
The neo Ventilator is an lesie simulator. In this video I use a Motif XF8.
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The answer is clear... at this point in time, NOTHING duplicates the sound of a vintage full tonewheel Hammond console coupled with a good Leslie speaker... they get close, but it's just not the same. Even the new Hammond electronic consoles fall short... even Hammond can't match "The Hammond Sound" with their own clones! Nice chord progressions, man!
Exactly ! The Hammond Sound is part of the acoustic nature of the Instrument itself. The emotion and tone from all that wood and how it meets the air. Much the same as how Digitals have tried for yrs to Duplicate the Sound of a 9' Steinway. Well they got the sound almost perfect, but fall short on the Emotion and sheer acoustic output of the instrument itself. Its what happens between the instrument and the air itself is how it gets its color and body.
A motif and Organ in the privacy of your home, may the Lord bless you real good.
Ok that little box on that keyboard is the truth!!! But that Hammond Organ is the Work of GOD😂
God? WTF is that? Is it a kind of Santa, Easter Bunny, Chupa Cabra? 🤣🤣🤣
@@sibariba oh look: the better-than-everybody born-again evangelical-atheist is here to preach the bad news. Why are atheists always so anoyingly preachy?
@@derektheproselfappointedhi9043 Ikr They're never respectful of other peoples' beliefs. Besides, Rick Strick wasn't even saying anything about believing in God, just making an analogy.
Can nobody make it like that man
Man, the electric would do in a pinch, but you cant get the richness that a true Hammond has. Its was like velvety chocolate.
This wasn't a fair comparison, that Hammond should have been hooked up to a 350 watt keyboard amplifier, it would have captured a lot more of the lows
I think the Hammond sounds better, but I really came to comments to tell you how good of a player you are
I suspect this brilliant musician makes it sound as close as any copy could.
I could just conclude that I am amazed how nicely Hammond sounds in comparison to Motif. It is not just waterfall keys which are better for organ playing, but the sound itself. Such a rich and warm tone on Hammond.
I've had 3 Hammonds with Leslie's going back to 1965, so I'm very familiar with the Hammond sound. But now living in a small apartment, it's impractical to own one. So I got a Ventilator about 5 yrs ago to use with my motif keys and my Crumar Mojo organ, and it's so close to the real thing - more than good enough when you can't have the real thing! By the way, I believe the Mojo has the best Leslie digital simulation of all the clones and you have extensive abilities to edit and tweek it.
Sounds good to me. People get to caught up in comparing the two when they're not meant to be. Nothing can beat a mechanical hammond coming through a mechanical Leslie. BUT.....nobody's moving a full hammond setup from their church or studio to go run and do a theme and two. That motif and neo with the right speaker setup (maybe two powered speakers) is obviously the more practical thing to do for a quick gig on the go
This is THE comment!
Sounds good until you hear the real one
I totally agree!
Couldn’t agree with you more bro.
Sounds fine if you don’t know any better. It’s no problem until the real thing is in the room.
Can't fit a real one in my apartment, bro.
Exactlyyyy
I think the bass pedals also make a huge difference.
Every time I watch this demo, I think, "Wow, that Neo sounds really good!" Best emulation I've heard... but then I hear the real deal, and it's no contest. The Hammond w/ a Leslie even without being 'pro' mic'ed is the CLEAR winner. That's not a slam against the Neo, but rather a credit to how unique the Hammond / Leslie combo sound is. Difficult to reproduce!
I beg to differ. I own the NEO Ventilator 2 even better than the one in this video. its not the organ you dits its the Leslie that makes the organ duh!
@@danaowens30 I've played the A100, L100, M3, B3 and C3... and they all have a unique tone, even with the same Leslie. Similar, but unique. Change the Leslie and it's a different tone again. I've also tried the Nord through a Leslie, GSI VB3, and most recently the IK Multimedia B3X, and they are very similar...but still fall short in crosstalk, percussion, harmonics when changing drawbar settings... However, your experiences may lead you to a different conclusion. IMO, it's the combo that makes the sound, not just the Leslie. Cheers!
Not only the organ but the player as well. The key thing you yourself left out. Now a 3 cheers to you duh!!! So why not set up a rig of different organs i have and still going i also have a XK-1 not that Xk1c i wish I had the nord c2 or the hammond sk2 pro. But anywhooo I have the original Hammond XK1 and EMU B3 plus 2 Batch of Motif organs 4 rows of organs and you gonna sit here and tell me about how different they all sound well let me put it to u like this boo, I played them all got them all and can shape my sounds with out computers or draw bars. All tho I got them all I dont use them. I use my settings easy said easy done boo. Who cares I just love my organs.
Keyboard sounds great, but as soon as you play the Hammond & Leslie its 100% fuller. The tone is incredible. Brings every note and sound alive. The Leslie is a beautiful thing
I've got Hammond clones and Hammond plugins that sound absolutely amazing - very very authentic, I've worked hard to get decent EQ, drive, Leslie etc. sounding fantastic, hell even experienced producers have complimented my 'virtual' Hammond sound. Lets face it, real Hammonds are a pain in the ass to maintain, record or gig with. But then I go back and sit at a real Hammond/Leslie and think shit man - I need a real Hammond in my life!
Yeah that's my issue right now I currently have a cheap Yamaha keyboard and am considering getting a hamond organ but like you say a bitch to maintain, very heavy and keyboards are so similar.
Get the Hammond skx 🎹
????Pain in the ass to maintain?????
A few drops of oil, once a year.
Solder a wire once in a while.
Find a good service tech and the old Hammonds will run forever. I own and regularly play a Hammond built in 1938!
Sure, they will need repair once in a while, but it's very rare to find one that is in regular use, and been properly maintained, that cannot be fixed. Many organs that have not run in 59 years, can be resurrected.
And, I can still find parts for Hammond organs that were built 85 years ago.
In my experience, with any clones, or other digital synths, if you get 15 years out of it, you're doing really good.
@@scottbc31h22 If I could find a great tech within a couple of hundred miles that would be great but I'm in the UK and experienced techs are very rare. I recently contacted 4 different UK techs about a C3 I wanted to purchase (I wanted a service and some mods done) - and none of them even got back to me (service is poor here). I've just had to send my 147 amp 400 miles to a great tech to get some work done as I can't find anyone reliable closer to home. So when I say 'pain in the ass to maintain' I guess it depends where you live.
By comparison I contacted a couple of US techs/moders and they got back to me immediately and were super helpful. The service is night and day between the UK and US.
Real Hammond organs are only a pain when you don't take of them. I've had my Hammond for 28 yrs and luckily, never had to replace anything accept for one tube..lol Lucky me huh?
And when all the newest digital instruments have worn out and parts are unobtainable, the old 'real' Hammonds keep making good music.
The real organ touches the soul .
The Motif through the NeoVentilator sounds really good (it's your playing:) but the Hammond has a richness and depth of tone that is really on another level. My opinion. If you're using it for gigging, the Motif is a lot less to carry and set up...and playing like yours is going to sound great no matter what.
The Motif might be only a little bit of bass boosting away from the Hammond sound.
That Nord can though
Regardless of the sounds, that's some glorious playing. Amen, and thanks!
You really can’t beat the real Macoy.
The Hammond is always a winner especially when it comes to the pedals.
I so miss the pedals. I had a c3 some 40 years ago or so. But I had to downsize when I moved.
Thanks for showing the motif keyboard.
That keyboard is the best sounding keyboard organ I have ever heard and I thought it was gonna be a tie....until your pinky finger touched the hammond. Bruh, not even fair. The hammond cannot be touched in my opinion. The raw power is just unbelievable and cannot will not be cheaply copied lol. Sorry I just dont see it happening. Nice playing by the way!
Gigged in rock bands for many years with my Hammond M 100 and Leslie 147, you needed a crew and a truck. Now I use a Roland VK8 clone wheel thru a stereo amplifier, Trouble free and not weighty. Sounds great in a combo situation. I would say to any young guys starting out to get a clone wheel if you intend to go out on the road.
Why do you think those things are dragged everywhere? For looks? The public has no clue. They know few of the hammond greats. This video shows why we are starting to see more of the real thing, not less. On so many levels the sampled clones are feeble, except for the ones that cost as much as a real one. They are still behind, but so easy to move, the lazy factor wins out.
The best digital midi Hammond and Leslie sound I have found is GG Audio's Blue3 with Spin Leslie or UAD Waterfall B3 with IK's Amplitude Leslie. Very nice churchy organ chords you are playing. You made me wanna have church!
Good information
Just bought my first A102 Hammond Organ here in South Africa. This thing is a beast. Nothing compares to it.
Man I like how you play I like my preaching chords like that except I'm a traditional Baptist preacher but man you are awesome and the Hammond organ sounds better than the keyboad
Love that church sound, thanks for the video, the Hammond will always smoke any keyboard, thanks motif, but no cigar!
You Just cannot beat the Hammond and Leslie, If Laurens Hammond could see his creation still working today he would be amazed, pity he did not care for the Leslie , but one is no good without the other.... thanks for the great music love those rich chords
The Hammond was much richer, but it's a lot easier to move the Motif around. It depends how important the organ sound is in your particular situation. Good video!
Besides the comparison of the two, the keyboard and the Hammond, your playing skills are "extra-ordinary". Sorry, I had an "Enter The Dragon" flashback...lol Great technique brother man!
That's amazing ! Not to mention your playing 😁
That's a great demo, man. For a gigging rig, the motif is not bad at all but when you fire up the A100 the game is over. :) I play on a Nord Electro 6d at my church. Again, not bad at ALL... but the real deal? Butter...
Thanks for this. The keyboard is great for a keyboard. But at least on my audio, there is no comparison. Very clear why Hammonds will be playing for many years to come. Yes, they are worth the hassle.
Cool if you do not wish to carry the real thing from gig to gig and it sounds fairly close, but it ain't nothing like sitting behind the real thing knowing that you're in charge!!! FACTS!!
I have the same board MOTIF XF8 but me personally I wouldn't play organ on keys to me it just feels weird I rather play the instrument as the instrument
P.J. WEBB you can get away with it better on the motif because of the balanced synth action.
I’m sure 90% of all people would prefer Authentic Hammond. I believe the situation people are looking for alternatives for travel, for apartment and other things convenience sake.
I would fully agree cause I have a Yamaha keyboard right now and I like playing as ging on it but a real organ is something and yes same here space for it and for me living in a second story house.
I think the orignal sounds best, but its the player that makes them both wail.
Dam Bout laughed my ass off. Dude with the current mic on the Hammond. Dam
Pure Authority Pure Magic.
Nothing can come close to an Authenic Hammond..
Great comparison. Great touch on the keys as well.
The Neo Ventilator definitely helps but I don't if anything will ever replace the real thing! The hammond organ was one Gods gifts to man hahaaa!
can a store bought violin sound like a Stradivarius?
N O!
Man the sound on your keyboard was PHAT!!!!👍👍👍
I need a musician like you in Detroit God bless you doc
Bless you sir I must say as good as that ventilator sounds I am blind and I can tell instantly when you sit down on the A 100. However I will say this, when E.Q. properly a ventilator is a very close second to the real thing.
Of course the Hammond sounds a lot better. The full and rich sound and the wonderfull delayed start of the leslie. But its only for a stationary amusement.
"Of course the hammond sounds a lot better".....aaaahhhh, that's pretty funny
That keyboard would be great in a pinch, but if you have a real organ right there to play, there is no comparison! All day I would be on that organ.
The sound of your back popping and then your scream as you drop the cabinet on your foot is much better on the Hammond.
My B3 likes to stay home.
No contest, a hammond is a hammond and a keyboard is a keyboard. That’s all that need to be said
Yeah and no, I like what you said but you do know that the reason keyboards were ever made to begin with was to replace big bulky pianos and organs to save space and so they are definitely good in there own right but will never really truly replace a real organ or piano
Sounds pretty good and a lot easier to move around from gig to gig.
Yeah, I can pick up my Hammond Scanner alright and move it around, but it has an open cup oiler on the works, and that will spill out if you tilt it. Definitely not easy to use on the road.
You're a dope player my man.
As for the comparison? There is no comparison in sound. The Hammond is superior.
The four Hammond still run circles around that keyboard all day long❤❤❤❤
There was demo of DX7 fed through Ventilator and it was quite decent Hammond emulation
Turn the perc off on the upper you should get the drawbar out to play - yes the vent is cool but way overpriced but then again man we love our Motifs- great vid for the mornin
You Sound Good No matter What you play
broh,,,
Leahcim Newest I agree!
This is dope! I just found your channel and I’m hooked!! Is it possible you could do a video showing how to tweak Logic Pros organ to sound more realistic?
the sound is not hard to achieve, but, the leslie speaker and the feel itself is. You cant just go crazy with the drawbars and you wont have a volume+ bass pedal plus a whole manual. It doesnt feel the same and it never will.
this is coming from someone that only uses vsts in productions
A keyboard will never sound like an original hammond (not the electric just flip the on switch one) BUT there are some good boards out there that can simulate the sound enough to pass off as an organ if any organ isnt there
Man that organ Leslie went all through my body I noticed immediately lol 😂
I am a piano tuner and a music and organ lover. The real Hammond sounds much better to me in my humble opinion.
Nothing beats the true thing.
True
It isn't difficult to fix drawbars that don't work. Often, the wire has came off the drawbar and you can quickly solder it back on or it may just need contact cleaner.
Thanks, I bought a soldering iron and hand it fixed in 2 minutes
Try using flux. It will remove oxidation that is present overtime. That's generally how you can clean contacts especially when certain things are sensitive
Nothing like the acoustic. To me it sounds fuller
they both sound exactly the same.....
"Nothing like the acoustic. To me it sounds fuller"......There is no such thing as an acoustic Hammond B3. Do you also like an acoustic Fender Strat over an electric Fender Strat? ;-)
Pretty good sound..but the Nord and Dexibell organ simulations sound more realistic 😉..
The organ sound sounds better on the actual Oregon then the way it sounds on the keyboard that’s my opinion
Gon head n play that thing then take us to church
They both sound good but nothing compares to the original. Nice playing tho. Wish I had those skills
the ventilator is a awesome most accurate simulator but the a real Hammond with a real Leslie 122 cabinet just can't be beat
Man could u break down that movement u doing
The older organ wins hands down.PS i wish my acetone had a vibrato scanner.
BOTH SOUNDS ARE AWESOME BEAUTIFUL AND I LOVE YOUR CHORDS GREAT I LOVE GOSPEL GREAT
I have both the Ventilator /Motif ES, and a Hammond. It's great to be able to take your Hammond sound with you for a gig. The real Hammond and Leslie are too big and heavy to move! Most people would not know the difference if everything was covered up. On this clip, the motif/ventilator sounded better to my ears!
They are very close! If a studio mic was used to record the organ, it might sound different in the video. I would definetly gig with the motif/ventilator combo
The motif sounds okay if used in a mix with a band, BUT, No way does it sound better than that A100. I have an A100 and a xk3c. I use the xk3c in the band. It is much closer to the A100 then the Motif, but I also use a Motif for piano... which is the best around.
Most people in blind test will tell no difference b/w Hammond and simulation, especially in the band context, when organ is mixed with overdriven guitars and such stuff. There is story about Andy Giddings (former Jethro Tull keyboardist), who used mockup "organ" made from two VK1000 boards, enclosed in custom wooden case, vaguely resembling B3. Even Keith Emerson himself was fooled, and asked Andy "what model of the Hammond do you play?"
Most people but there are a large % of Hammond Players who can spot a FAKE CLONE in a new york min. I don't like THE LESLIE PEDAL OR NEO VENT II i have used them both on a REAL HAMMOND 1959 BLONDE C3 & 1960 A100 and you can tell it's not a real LESLIE.
I noted that you use or have used a Motif ES with a Ventilator. What settings do you normally use in the ES? Do you use any internal effects in addition to the Leslie simulator? I currently use a Motif ES6 on all of my gigs in addition to a Roland XP-60. I haven't been able to conjure up a great organ sound that is somewhat convincing. Please share your wisdom.
Thank you
Sounds like another simulator to me! Let him (rarely) spin it up fast and hold a chord hear here how bad it sounds- wack a wack wack. That Hammond sounds huge even with him trying to mud it up. Ha ha ha!
That organ does it for me!!!
Nope sound totally different. When the leslie switch is on, on the organ, the volume stays constant and to speed of the spin is not too fast where it causes the vibrato that's over powering like the motif. When its off, motif has a double chorus effect especially in the high register
Hey brother, thanks for sharing. Nice board but it can't compete with that Hammond organ sound. Thanks again and by the way, nice chords bro.
You can tell the difference as soon as you play the HAMMOND. Hammond cannot be recreated thru a NEO VENT II or any other Pedal. IT is just not the same.
Both sound good. Just depends on the band and mix.
Hammond also have the 9 busbars that add subtones to your playing. There's also the real Doppler effect with air spinning throughout the room.
in terms of sound, no contest...motif can only go so far.... hammond can go all the way. depends what you need to accomplish musically. in terms of what will inspire you more????... sit yourself between 2 leslies and do the comparison. also, which one will still work in 50 years? hammonds are built to last. what can you buy today that will still work 50 years later like hammonds do?
I'd rather carry the Motif to a gig, than the Hammond.
Because you care more about your back than the music or fans? Get some help man.
@@uhoh007 I would definitely need help if I had to carry around a B3 and leslie cabinets.
Nothing beats the real thing...U cant compare a real Hammond with a clone much less a synthesizer. The Motif/ventillayor still sounds digital..great playing btw.
May not be the Hammond BUT it gets the job done. Very surprising
They can come very close but a rompler nor modelled simulation will never BEHAVE like a hammond! The sound is only step 1 the contacts are a completely different story
It all depends. Do you have roadies? Is the instrument going to sit in a church or whatever, not to be moved? Back in the day, some of the jazz guys would have to take their Hammonds into some of these small clubs in New York. I heard one story where the club was so small, they had to drag this thing over the bar just to get it inside before the people got there. So, if you're doing that kind of thing, there is no question really. You go with the compact option. But, if you have the means, I think that people will appreciate not only the sound but the look of a real Hammond organ with Leslie speaker. Maybe even make some jokes about how hard this thing is to move so if you're digging it, maybe keep the tip jar full.
Truth! Its hard to choose. I would definitely gig with motif/ventilator combination. But like you said the organ has a look you can appreciate, as well as different functions such as the vibrato and chorus etc.
Yep in my view this is not an 'either or' conversation, hauling my old Hammond and Leslie up flights of stairs to gigs was just insane - this instrument was never intended to be moved around. I use a Hammond XK5 and Ventilator these days, and while quite obviously not the real deal is the practical gigging solution.
Well, I'm young, so I'll keep hauling her around...
Paul TheSkeptic Yep...the key club was one of them!
that is what JANSEN & SONS DOLLIES ARE FOR Organ dollies you can move a HAMMOND ALL BY YOUR SELF MIKE MANGUN shows you on youtube. i have bought a set of Jansen & Sons dollies for organs and i have moved several hammonds by MYSELF>
Do you like owning both an organ and a keyboard? I mean is it worth having two things that virtually do similar things? I've been considering getting a hamond organ and I already have a cheaper Yamaha keyboard.
Well I like having both. The motif has mic organ sounds but I prefer the organ.
@@EmmanuelArtistry good to know, thanks.
Any keyboard would sound like a Hammond. Even without the ventilator.
straight to those foot pedals huh? woooo baby
May I ask on that specific keyboard can you change the transpose or is that not available?
Could you do a organ tutorial, specifically preaching chords in c#?
As a former roadie,I must say that I am not a fan of Hammond organs, although I love the sound.
I don't understand what you really want to say. You love the sound but not the instrument itself ?
@@willys6529 , he was a roadie. He had to move the damned thing!!!.
@@willys6529 they are extremely heavy and awkward to move. But sound good.
@@fallsdp OK.
@@TheFrasermunro That is true. But the new ones ?
That's dope!!!!!
Good Lord, I could listen to that all day! :D
i know this is and old video but what leslie are you using and where did you get the organ from
Hello. It’s a Modified model 45. I had it converted to a 2-speed. It was given to me.
Is the Ventilator better than the Leslie simulator pedal?
Also do you need that silver box for it to sound like a organ or is that just something extra
Sounds nice, but the is NO comparison the real Hammond sound and feel!
Debatable....
BRUH! The Ventilator is dope, but idc nothin about that, man you can play doc!
The motif wasnt even close to the real sound. probably shdve used the VB3 thru the NEO....now thats the real chanllenge but i dont think it will have fullness of the actual organ.
I have played the LOGIC PRO X or MAIN STAGE VINTAGE B3 thru a LESLIE 3300 and it sounds better than the Yamaha going thru the NEOVENT II
It's the speaker size being a big difference for the sound for sure.
ID LOVE TO HEAR WHAT A REGGAE BUBBLE SOUNDS LIKE USING THE NEO VENTILATOR
Ok, that machine with the Motif didn’t sound bad at all… however, there’s NOTHING that will sound better than a well tuned Hammond B3,C3 or A100 with the 122 Leslie! I have one of the best sounding Hammonds in my area, unfortunately I just can’t play like you! Let me borrow your hands and thought process 🤷🏾♂️
at 1:56 to 2:04 are those chords from a song and what chords are they because they sounded beautiful... i have just started learning the organ : )
The genuine Hammond is better, but I don’t have one, so the keyboard will have to do.
Awesome